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In front of Lincoln. Holding a puppy. Your argument is invalid.
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oh, the irony.
sorry for being ignorant and foreign, but what irony?
Irony is when you drop the iron on your knee. Now I noticed something which may be pure enlightenment: why is Honest Abe’s right shoe jutting out like that. (Forget Honest Barry for a bit.)
thanks, that’s really helpful…
Irony is when you intend to do one thing, but the opposite happens. For instance, if a hunter sets a bear trap, and then steps in it running from a bear.
I believe there are other definitions, but this is how people usually use it.
aus was not looking for a definition of irony, you twit. aus was looking for an explanation of what in this picture is irony.
Maybe the irony is the photoshopping? I dunno either.
it’s because the puppy is more competent to be president
Yeah…still wouldn’t qualify as ironic.
“It’s like goldy and bronzy, only it’s made of iron.” – Baldrick
The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention *sung in bender opera voice*
stupid lack of edit. There’s also dramatic irony where the audience is aware of things the characters in the play are not.
Ex. Othello
Or for the brain dead It’s what happens everytime you hear the “Dun dun Duuuuun” music in a soap opera
I thought it was a traffic jam when you’re already late. Or a “no smoking” sign on your cigarette break.
And who would have thought? It figures..
No – that’s not irony – that’s just “sh*tty”.
He’s lounging, at least that’s how it’s always looked to me. so the legs jut out farther than if he were sitting up straight.
If I’m not mistaken, the irony they refer to is that Lincoln was known as Honest Abe, where as a lot of conservatives view Obama as a liar (including that one congressman that yelled “You lie!”).
Or it could be that the first black president is holding a white puppy in front of the Great Emancipator…
Or if I’m not mistaken Grantski doesn’t know what irony is (à la Alanis Morissette).
It’s been said before but I’ll say it again:
Alanis Morissette knows exactly what irony is. She wrote a song titled “Ironic” that didn’t have any irony in it.
An interesting article on that:
http://www.copyblogger.com/did-alanis-morissette-get-irony-right/
That’s an excellent piece of writing, with a lesson most of us could stand to learn.
I knew I hated that song for a reason….
I thought it was b/c it was overplayed… or that Alanis dated the dork from Full House and wrote an angry song about him….. of b/c the video was her in a car with herself.
You forget that Alanis is also GOD. That’s all I need to know about her.
*touches Jane’s nose*
brrrrppp
I like when she gets blood on her dress and rips it off and she has this 80′s silver lame thing going on.
God can have whatever style s/he damn well pleases.
She was the BEST GOD EVER!!! Also, the second best part of that movie.
If I were God I would totally pick Alan Rickman as my Metatron.
Sorry Morgan Freeman was the best God EVER!!! And those that don’t agree are racists…. elebenty….
I’d like to see Morgan Freeman try to do a handstand against a tree.
Morgan Freeman would just explain to you why he doesn’t have to do a handstand against a tree to be a better God, and you’d believe him because of the Voice.
*cries* James Earl Jones reads the bible! I think he’s the best God ever! That makes me a racist!
(Yes, there is an audio book for the bible read by James Earl Jones. It is awesome and full of win)
Ah, but you see, the fact that he speaks proves to us he’s not really God. That’s what made Alanis such a good God: she conveyed, in silence, God’s joy with Her creation, Her infinite love, and her ability to brutally kill those who need it. Definitely, The Best Ever.
And might I remind you that her Voice was Alan Mother Fvcking Rickman?! *froth froth*
@Mark…why is She waiting on Perez Hilton? Time’s a-wastin’!!
@Brak: huh? I’m unaware of the Alanis/Hilton connection, I guess…
I was thinking of the brutally killing part. It would be a godly thing to do, y’know?
Ah, yes. Well, he wouldn’t be my first choice, but I wouldn’t shed any tears.
It took me a second to get it. Bravo, Madam!
Thank you, but I can’t take credit. Someone else said it the last time the subject of irony came up. ^_^
Bravo for honesty! *puts a gold star on Janie’s chart*
Yay!!!! I r speshul!!!!
Oh, you are, Jane, in many, many ways
2nded
Well, everyone lies. [/House]
And it’s never lupus.
It’s always DIC! Or that other one.
Seems like an unusual amount of the time it’s something sexually transmitted, causing the patient to have to “come clean” to their partner about infidelities. I guess that makes for good tv.
Interesting. After a really brief glance at infidelity and STD statistics, it seems every case should be an “illegitimate STD”. No, I exaggerate, but the numbers are pretty high anyway.
I’ve heard of a case where a lady got an STD, but it wasn’t her fault OR her husband. Turned out her adult daughter had borrowed mom’s bathtowel. Oops. House could use that next!
I’m cringing, puking, and wrapping myself in a fetal position all at once.
What? How exactly? (Um, not exactly, I mean, but how?!!)
Daughter had gonorrhea. Used Mom’s towel, and didn’t tell her about it. Mom used not-dry towel to dry herself. QED.
*blegh*
I’m never using a used towel again. And I’m charging you, VG, with my water bill, since I have to wash all of my bath towels every time I use them.
So you CAN’T get it from a toilet seat, but you CAN get it from a wet towel.
*note to self — don’t use other people’s towels*
I would wait on the Howard Hughes routine for a decade, since your young-uns are too young to be playing the field in that area of sports!
Ooops–that last towel comment was at Froo. mabsba might have cause, with a child in the pubes zone!
I was wondering…but he has his own bathroom, anyway.
Yeah, horror stories… I’ve got a buddy who’s a virgin, he’s got HPV, because one of his parents (maybe both) weren’t the most pure children of the 60s, and he shared a towel that wasn’t quite dry, or clean enough for that matter.
So before he’s even got a fair chance, he gets and STD thrown on his sexual resume…
Wasn’t it lupus in one episode?
You know, I think you’re right. Everyone was shocked.
Yes, it was lupus in one episode. The lupus made the guy have antibodies against his own blood or something. The Big Epiphany was “People don’t chat about their blood type” with House and Wilson, after House guessed Wilson’s blood type right (universal donor).
And I’ve only seen the episode twice.
The episode is called “You Don’t Want to Know”. Season 4, episode 8.
Uh, thanks.
O_O
He lied!
I can’t believe you had the nerve to say that. That was really against protocol here in this forum. Very disrespectful of you.
Actually, I believe the statue is made out of marbley.
How marblic.
“puppy-corps” that’s pronounced “corpse” As our brilliant leader would say. because he is smarter than Bush.
SOMEONE Is bitter.
Stay tuned aus, you are about to get it.
That’s a kind of Mona Lisa expression on his face there. Got to admit it worries me a bit.
Wait a minute… I thought the Mona Lisa was supposed to be a DaVinci self-potrait… now you’re telling me it’s really OBAMA!!!!???? I’m so confused…
Well, see, what happened was is that Obama went back in time and…
Oh, I remember that episode! Wasn’t Brad Pitt a special guest star in that one?
Yeah, but it was way before he got famous. Only a bit part, really.
Brad Pitt was on 21 Jump Street once.
What episode and which season?
I don’t know, Google it.
Season 2 Episode 20. I googled it.
Wait, was this on the same trip back in time when he forged his birth certificate or did he go back twice? *losing the plot line*
No, that was a different episode entirely, and he didn’t have to go back in time to forge it, he had to go back in time to retrieve it from a secret Mexican CIA cabal. It’s all part of a bigger plot to get rid of the drug cartels of Columbia. There was a whole season dedicated to it.
I thought Obama created Swine Flu to kill white people, you know like the White man created AIDS to kill Africans………
That’s what he wants you to think! I mean, if people knew he had hired MacGyver to contact aliens for him, I don’t know what they’d do!
Just knowing that MacGyver is for hire would cause a rip in the fabric of reality.
*cloister bell rings*
Oh that’s not good…
the irony is that lincoln was key in setting the slaves free
damn i just sprayed coffee on my keyboard.
You seem to belong to the group of Americans that have no concept of irony. Please be quiet and don’t embarrass us in front of the rest of the world.
That ICONIC as in it makes an interesting picture.
It’s the opposite of irony.
One shiny internets for you. That was perfect.
It certainly gave me a lovely visual.
It gave me ideas… Jane…. grab the whip and get me a Lincoln top hat!
Oh my! *goes to grab the video camera*
*adjusts corset* Be sure to get my best side DU!
Oh, I don’t know which side is your best side. Ok, lets see the right side…alright, now the left…maybe the backside, yeah, bend over, oh that’s nice…but lets see the front side again…Oh, they’re all so good, I don’t know which side is best.
We’ll just have to make sure we change positions a lot.
Good thinking.
Be sure and flex your arm in the mirror like Christian Bale a la American Psycho. That does it for me
Actually, this pretty much validates MY argument…
BTW… if I’m not mistaking, Obama is photoshoped into the pic…
that’s because if a liar that big got that close to even the image of honest abe his head would explode.
Lincoln was awesome, but if you really think he was a completely honest guy you FAAAAAAIL US HISTORY FOR-EV-ER.
Lincoln used deceit ALL the freaking time when he was president. These times were justified, in my opinion, but if Bush or Obama did things similar to what he did, people would lose their minds.
Lincoln was a lawyer… ’nuff said.
No offense to our Diss but, yeah.
None taken.
Unless, of course, I’m lying about that.
*hands Diss an ostrich egg* Here, I can’t find the polygraph. Now repeat that statement.
Sorry, I’m not a polygraph, I’m only barely bilingual.
I’m pretty much straight myself.
I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body. A really butch one.
A really butch lesbian or a really butch mans body?
I don’t believe you own the amount of leather necessary to validate this statement, good sir.
He’s a lesbian trapped in a man’s body, he dreams to be feared by many men, and loved by many women!
where is the line between straight and pretty much straight?
Somewhere in between the Huntsman store and Abercrombie and Fitch…
I kiss girls, but have no interest in going further. It just doesn’t really appeal to me. I’ve never met a girl I would be interested in dating. Oh, also, I like boobs, but that doesn’t really count, because everyone likes boobs.
Yes Max, that is the line and I’m standing on it and not going into either store.
Imz onlee bairelee lingual
I’m a bilingual illiterate. I can’t read in two languages.
Here we call that ‘bi-illiterate.’
I think here in America we call that “Just about right.”
I don’t know, diss, I think you should sue.
All the really good ones lied an the appropriate times.
Well, yeah, it was actually an amazing photo when the dog was levitating in front of Lincoln. But a great ‘shop job!
I’m glad they shopped it. The floating dog thing gave me the creeps.
at least this was more economical than flying Airforce One around the Statue of Liberty.
And scared a lot less people
Properly the plane wasn’t Air Force One, as that title only applies to the plane the President is in. Still, an insipid publicity stunt nonetheless.
Umm the Plane the President is in is Air Force 1……. it’s the designation given to the plane.
Exactly. The one in the photos over New York wasn’t Air Force One, was herb’s point, because Obama wasn’t there.
True, but if I would have said “a plane” some may not have understood the reference.
No… but you could have said, “Da plane! Da Plane!”
I don’t get it. It just looks like Obama brought his lunch to the Lincoln Memorial. (He eats puppies you know…)
Only on days that end in “y”.
Sounds like the average Chinese buffet to me. Dang, now I want some crab rangoon.
THAT’S NOT CRAB IN THE RANGOON!!11!!
It’s PEOPLE!
Dammit, guys, now I want Crab Rangoon and it’s effing snowing.
It’s because you’re a sinner. God is punishing you with snow.
Lol…probably.
What, they don’t deliver?
Did you not hear me? God is punishing her with snow! She’s a dirty, dirty sinner, and God made it so that she can’t get her Crab Rangoon! I know this because Pat Robertson told me so! Geez, Jane, try to keep up!
Erm… What does Pat Robertson think about hot chocolate and marshmallows by the fire?
He said God thinks marshmallows are evil little balls of air, so he won’t touch them. Doubly so on the chocolate. It’s tasty molten evil.
Mmmmmm, it sure is… *scampers off for some molten evil*
Ooh, I think I’ll have a cup of evil, too! No, the Chinese place does not deliver. The only thing I can get delivered here is pizza.
Ah, man, I’m a sinner too.
I feel no cravings for this crab food thing of which you speak. Does this mean I am free of sin?
That depends–how do you feel about molten evil? *wafts hot chocolate under DU’s nose*
Mmmm, molten hot evil….*grabs the evil and savor it as it burns her tongue*
…and puppy eating.
Who votes for this knock off piece of $hit!!!! I voted it down like the three times I saw it in voting, and each time it had a socre of like -10. WTF? Knock-off from the hysterical Shaq is holding a panda one…. CAN’T people be original.
I’d say filtering but apparently there is no evidence of this
. I don’t want to be called a troll again.
Now the voting process is firmly set in stone and well documents so the -10 “rating” must have been related to something like the tempurature in North Dakota at the time.
How is it that you’re voting on the same lol three times?
Voting here is so eff-ed up. Somebody just goes through and votes “no” on everything, and they do it multiple times. Is it you?
I hit the button for whatever pic is in front of me. If I see the photo more than once blame PK.
Speaking from personal experience, sometimes you click “submit” and nothing happens… you wait, click it again, wait… click one more time, and FINALLY the screen changes. Now, PK has three copies of my lol, and voters are frustrated as hell.
I even asked if they could moderate the front pages so that the same people don’t always get them, but they said it was all automatic.
*whispers* I’ll join you…
There’s a website entirely devoted to “your argument is invalid” type pictures. [linky]
It’s been photoshopped. A wretched attempt by a novice with limited experience. Two pics combined.
Tell-tale fuzzy halo along Obama’s shoulder reveals a poor attempt to blend his body with the image that has Lincoln statue. Also because there’s a strong light source on Obama’s face coming from the right, and Lincoln’s face is lit from the left.
Pssst…..*whispers* Nobody really cares. It’s a humor site, not the Zapruder footage.
Back… and to the right… Back… and to the right…
Okay, WHY would Obama be holding a dog in front of the Lincoln Memorial? I think it’s blatantly shopped, therefore we shouldn’t have to acknowledge it being shopped. Therefore you comment is invalid.
I don’t think it’s shopped, Obama always has that heavenly glow about him….. **runs and hides from the flame war to begin**
OBAMA IS THE SAVIOR OF US ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! ELEBENTY!!!!!!!TWELVENTY!!!!SHOELACES!!!!!!!@@@
THE SHOes ARE BEGLIanium!@@!
Pfft. Twelventy isn’t a real number.
Then what comes after Elebenty mister smarty pants?
Twelvety. No “n”. *smug”
Is that number before or after twoteen?
No that’s the square root of -100…
I’d rather a funny fotochop than a dull LOLame. Unfortunately, this is a LOLame, whether it’s a fotochop or not!
3.. 2.. 1.. you’re under
The next time you feel obliged to inform the rest of the people here that something is photoshopped you will refrain and instead beat yourself severely around the head and shoulders with a 2×4. You will then realize nobody really gives a sh*t about your opinion and will beat yourself somemore.
3.. 2.. 1.. you’re back in the room
I could comment here, but the awesomeness of this picture makes it invalid and irrelevant.
Unless your argument is he has tripled the national debt in 1 year, lied about virtually every campaign promise, and is only 1/2 black, then your argument would still be valid. Therefore the validity of this picture is nullified….much like his tenure in office should be.
“tripled the national debt in 1 year”
The national debt was around ten trillion dollars when he took office. I’m not sure where it is exactly, today, but I believe congress just undertook to allow borrowing up to around twelve trillion dollars. For those of you who are math challenged, twelve is not three times ten. Don’t worry though, your vote still counts as much as mine does.
Campaign promises: Actually, there are a few he’s broken that p!ss me off greatly, but I don’t think one could argue for “virtually every” promise broken. I’d be interested to see an accounting, though.
The St. Pete Times runs PolitiFact, which keeps tabs on Obama’s campaign promises. They’re actually fairly generous, with most promises, including the infamous Guantanamo one, listed as “in the works”.
I’m confident you’re going to jump down my throat because it doesn’t validate some piece of spin you blindly parrot — so just give me a minute to get my popcorn…
Thanks for the link. I’ll follow it up later.
After examining the link:
1 promise broken.
1 promise kept.
7 promises “In the Works”.
6 promises “Stalled”
Certainly not a ringing endorsement of Obama’s political agility and skill, but at least it can’t be said that he’s broken “Virtually All” of his campaign promises.
Don’t know when you checked but now it reads
91 promises kept
33 compromised
15 broken
87 Stalled
275 in the works
For one quarter of one term that doesn’t seem too bad. Especially as many of them (Guantanamo for example) were blocked by congress and the senate rather than him actually changing his mind.
I have been checking this site regularly since they started tracking his promises. Many of the ratings are nonsensical b\c they feel the need to rate everything in their listed categories without very much information.
I do think that this website brings into question much of the common criticisms of Obama, particularly related to his ‘inactivity’ or promise breaking. Besides rating some things too early, my problem with the St. Pete times is that they seem to treat every ‘promise’ equally and their list of the top 25 promises doesn’t provide a reasoning for why they are the top 25.
I think it’s actually a pretty good list, FWIW. The promise that’s still “in the works” that strikes me as taking way longer than it should is repealing DADT. That’s purely an executive decision, so Congress has no ability to stall him on it. Obama has disappointed me a little more than I expected in getting things done, but if he hadn’t, he’d be upsetting a lot more people on the right (not that I think that’d be a bad thing).
Not true about DADT. NPR was discussing it yesterday; congress passed it into law in 1993, so it’s going to need a new law to repeal it.
Last night on the Daily Show Jon Stewart said that Obama’s mistake was in treating Congress as an equal branch of the government. I would have to disagree. Obama’s mistake was treating congress like a group of rational reasonable adults. I think we should be able to put politicians in time out for not playing well with others.
So Congress needs ‘heads down”?
Some of them need spankings, and not the good kind either.
You have to do the spankings then. Where’s Lieberman, he’s first?
That is NOT a visual I want when I’m on my way out to dinner. *grumble*
Look on the bright side, you’ll save money on food.
YES.
I disagree in the opposite direction — Obama’s mistake has been his consistent pattern of ignoring critics, demonizing dissenting voices, and steamrolling any opposition, Democrat or Republican. (“I won”, remember?) He’s made it impossible for him to compromise, so somehow it’s everyone else’s fault for not buckling under.
Not that these last two Congresses haven’t been clusterf*cks…
Honestly, it seems like Obama lacks consistency. He tries to seem bipartisan and accommodating, but when things don’t go his way, then he tries to act like a bad ass with an iron fist. He’s alienated those on the left who helped him get where he is by not getting his agenda through, but he still hasn’t compromised enough to earn the praise of the right (who aren’t likely to back him on much of anything to be honest). The liberals aren’t happy with him, the conservatives aren’t happy with him. Nobody is happy with him.
*agrees with Rando*
*peeks outside to see if the cat layeth with the dog*
*looks up from nap surrounded by cat and dog*
Whut?
Yeah, I know. I’m not really surprised by it, because politics always disappoint. But there’s always that lingering hope that maybe just this once, someone might actually do something right. He’s got 1 year to undo the damage of a very lackluster first year because America is too restless to give the Dems a whole term to turn things around. If they can’t pull out a miracle this year, the elections this year are (unfortunately) likely to go very against them. I’m not saying I’m changing my ideals. I’ve just pretty had it with the idiots who claim to support them. *sigh* I’m a wee bit disgruntled these days. LOL
And to bring balance back to PK, socialism would be awesome. Mwahahahaha!!
Ain’t no party like the Communist Party!!! What, what?
A Communist tea party? So we all get an equal share of the tea and scones? Yum!
And an equal share of the molesting. *Gropes everyone equally*
Why am I thinking that DU was hoping for crumpets instead of scones?
Crumpet, strumpets….same thing.
Let’s all sing!
“If I had a hammer…”
Wait…I do.
*sigh* Me too buddy, me too.
a little faith. thats all that is asked. if anyone can, those we’ve put there can. so stop with the disgruntle nonsense. there’s a very brutal environment the non-disgruntled are trying to work in. Your disgruntledness doesn’t help the situation.
Ever notice how you never hear about gruntled employees?
‘Cause that just sounds gross.
Or sounds like grunts…
Or people who are combobulated.
Bob only ulates after he coms…
*snickers*
Are you being serious?
I’m serious about anti-disgruntledness. im pro gruntle.
*sigh* All right then.
*gruntles*
Ok, you two. This is beginning to sound like a scene from Deliverance.
How can Obama blame the Republicans when he has a Super Majority (well HAD a super majority) in both the Sentate and House. He should have had no problem pushing his agenda if it was “strictly” partisan, as he said everything was. The man can not see the forest through the trees, is a lack luster leader, and needs to understand the country he lives in. He’s not in Europe, and he needs to realize that.
I personally think he was being idealistic. Believing congress represented the people, so the best choice would be to get congress to agree, not just push what he wanted. In which case…that was rather stupid.
Clearly Obama expects the best out of people and thinks that if we all talk about it we can have a reasonable discussion and come to a solution. What he’s forgetting is that the “people” in congress are not human beings by any stretch of the imagination.
If that’s true, why do his discussions end up looking like dictums? He’s barely engaged Congress, spent his first year skewering his critics, and is somehow surprised they they haven’t followed orders.
I doubt we’ll ever see eye to eye on Obama, Dhoti.
Mainly I was attempting (and failing) to sarcastically paint the entirety of congress as soulless robots from some Terminator knock-off.
Calling them Terminator clones is giving them too much credit. Even one of the Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Robots wins occasionally. They’re more like the little players in those old electric football games — half of them fall down and the other half spin in circles.
LOL! Honestly, in search of the perfect analogy I never once thought of the electric football games. Thank you, Dhoti, my hat is off to you and my quest is complete!
Don’t thank me — thank the Simpsons.
I love that episode! When he’s the peewee football coach and he’s trying to come up with the play..
“Ok, half of you fall down, the other half spin in circles.”
It’s a classic.
“Flaaaaaanders!”
“Flaaaaaanders!”
I think my brothers had one of those games. Good times.
I had one.. I also had one of those old hockey games as well.
Many hours of fanatic fun spent with both.
LOL. If you think Obama had a super majority, you’re counting pseudo-dems like Lieberman, yes? And the DINOs that vote against everything Obama wants passed?
Well, to be fair, technically, if you count the two non-Democrats who caucus with the Democrats (Frank and Lieberman), we did briefly have a super-majority between the time that Franken was sworn in and Kennedy died. (By the way, is it just me, or has no in the media seemed to notice that the Dems did not lose the super-majority in this most recent election, but rather failed to regain it? Once Kennedy died, the super majority was gone.)
The difference is that the Republicans are marching in lock-step and the Democrats are not. Whether you think that’s good or bad is up to you.
Well, I really think a couple of those so-called dems are barely so, but I concede your point. I think Obama should have just shoved everything through by reconciliation when he first got in office as Bush did. Now he’s lost a lot of the momentum.
Of course, the real contradiction is that while berating the Democrats for not being able to get bills passed while having a super-majority, the Republicans were also howling about how partisan the Democrats were being. If they had been as partisan as the Republicans, those bills would’ve gotten passed.
Repubs were yelling and screaming about how partisan Obama was being, and how the leadership was being. Pelosi saying something along the lines of “We’ll do it our way without the Republicans help”. The problem was that all the Blue Dog Dems knew that the public didn’t want the plan as presented and in order to get their votes the Dems sold their soles and changed the bill to the point now that the Bill is a Frankenstein where NO ONE is happy about it, YET the President and Pelosi are still shoving it down people’s throats.
And the Dems had a Super Majority even after Teddy died, b/c the Governor of Mass appointed a stand-in until the election, so yes there was a Super Majority until last week, it’s just that there were some Dems that realized their constituents DID NOT WANT this bill.
The Bills didn’t get passed b/c they weren’t bi-partisan, they were whatever the President and Dem leadership wanted, and disregarded what the republicans wanted or proposed. WHY would you vote yes for something that you had no say in and disagreed with? Sounds kind of stupid to me.
Translation: “The Democrats are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.”
Translation: “The politicians are damned if they do, damned if they don’t, due to their own “ambition” and pomises to the voters in order to get into office”..
There fixed that for you.
I love the “sold their souls” and “shoving it down our throats” part. very dramatic.
No, they sold their soles. Which meant they had to buy some new shoes.
They’re from Iraq.
And exactly HOW many back alley deals were done to get the POS they call the Health Care Bill?
I think you mean the yearly deficit.
I would ask if you also have considered home much additional money has been printed….last time I saw a report is was approximately an additional 123.5%. This would mean you would need to add over a trillion dollars to your deficit number.
The national debt is distinct from the money supply, but otherwise your point is correct.
Remember, kids — when emphasizing fiscally irresponsible Republicans, reference the national deficit; when covering for fiscally irresponsible Democrats, reference the national debt. Easy!
I saw a nice piece on the history of the last 5 Presidents and their deficits before and after holding the office. Every Republican: Reagan, Bush 1, and Bush 2 spent more than their Democratic counterparts Carter and Clinton. Pretty interesting stuff, considering the right claims to be the fiscally responsible of the two.
Hopefully, Obama won’t break the trend, but so far… (And yes, I realize he was dealt a difficult hand.)
I will certainly grant a bad hand, but in the end he asked to play.
For myself, I am unhappy with his lack of results even after I take into consideration what he started with.
My beef with that comparison is that it doesn’t correct for the business cycle, which has a major impact on federal revenue. If you do, things like the Bush deficits (41 and most of 43) and the Clinton surplus basically flatten out.
In fact, if you take that at face value, it also says something about different voter behavior in booms versus busts.
wicket; That’s b/c Carter and Clinton taxed the $hit out of people which helped to tank the economy’s at the end of their Presidencies. What people don’t realize is that the Internet Bust happened in Clinton’s last year.
Well if we’re running that course then.. can the right finally admit Bush F-ed up the economy?
Bush and the economy plus no child left behind are the reasons I got real hard into looking into the libertarian party, and decided that I didn’t like none of them.
I refuse to comment on No Child Left Behind for the sake of my blood pressure.
But it’s great if you want to see a public school teacher’s head explode!*
*not that I would encourage that as some of my best friends are teachers.
Well, you gotta stop those damn union teachers from turning our kids into damn commies somehow.
Naw only the REAL life can stop that…
That’s why the moajority of people get more conservative the older they get… (my wife was a Clintonite when I met her 8 years ago, she’s slowly transitioning to the Middle… SHE ALMOST voted for McCain, until he started to pan handle to the Christian Right.
Max: I don’t know is Bush helped FVck the economy, however his spending was out of control, hence why Bush is NOT a conservative. Why do you think his approval rating was in the low 30′s, b/c Conservatives didn’t like what he was doing also.
In this case, thats like saying less dead.
And I think Obama may reverse that trend.
There are many games played with the annual deficit. You can find many sources online that compare how Obama’s admin measured it in 2009 versus Bush’s admin’s methods (the most obvious difference being that Obama included the costs of the Iraq & Afghan wars and Bush didn’t).
E.g., {http://www.capitalgainsandgames.com/blog/stan-collender/789/bush-gimmicks-2009-obama-deficit-would-have-been}
That was a good web site and matches the information that I have seen about the Obama-debt.
The numbers that I was able to find places the Bush-debt (second term) including the war at around 3 trillion (give or take). Although I would have to include the loss of the Clinton-Surplus against his term.
But when you account for the Obama-printing of 1.2 trillion additional, this would raise his first year debt to about 2.5 trillion (in 1 year alone) accounting for the items you specified but not including any residual commitments for things like TARP.
I would have to say that in both cases, I would have to agree that this is too much.
To be fair, the Fed is not under Obama’s direct control, so the printing of excess money can’t be blamed on him. Otherwise, carry on.
and would Bernanke have been reappointed let alone confirmed without Obama?
I think its clear which direction is uphill in Washington.
Just because a the dotted line isn’t straight (the blackhole we call the deficit bends space and time) doesn’t mean its still can connect the dots.
Probably, yes. To most congresscritters, the Fed is magic.
“and is only 1/2 black”
Very klutzy of him. :p
I know. He should talk to his mom about that.
How does he know she’s his mother?? WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!??!!!
It’s shopped.
There is no way that is photoshopped at all. I don’t believe. I mean words do magically appear in pictures, just like money magically appears in Obama’s budget! The irony can also be found in the fact that Lincoln was the first REPUBLICAN president, and also emancipated the slaves, however, a BLACK lying DEMOCRAT is standing in front of his statue.
But CAN’T YOU SEE IT IN THE PIXELS!? THE PIXELS!1!!!11!!
The pixels are probably black, too.
Or half black. *peers suspiciously at them*
ZOMG! You’re right. The pixels are half black and half white, which makes them gray and that means…uh, help me out, here?
PS So if I was able to read the comments on a Swedish forum, would they sound as whacko as some of the ones here?
“PS So if I was able to read the comments on a Swedish forum, would they sound as whacko as some of the ones here?”
Oh, that was a good question!
Probably. Things that seem absolutely natural for us to be emotional, upset and concerned about probably seem rather silly to others. We’re just used to our local insanities.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. I wasn’t trying to say that I don’t think plenty of the American comments on American websites are wacko. I was probably just hoping that we didn’t have a monopoly on wackiness. (I always thought ‘whacko’ had an h, but spellcheck says no. But it doesn’t think ptroo is a word, either.)
*sigh* Tag fail.
No worries, I wasn’t trying to imply that I inferred that you don’t think plenty of American commants are whacko. ;p
(Merriam-Webster says it’s a variant of wacko, so it’s at least OK in the USAmericas.
)
…while “commants” is not OK anywhere. :p
Well, since Twain was Webster’s colleague, we just HAVE to go with Webster.
Those pixels are lying bastards is what they are.
I need to see a birth certificate before I’ll believe the illegitimacy of those pixels.
I have this one from Kenya, will that do?
I believe that’s Belgium, ma’am. We’ll need to see another piece of ID.
the dog looks constipated…..
just undecided.
The picture and caption make no sense. Then again, most everything this President has done flies in the face of logic and reason (ie, spending our way out of debt; war criminals in civilian court; aversion to calling islamo-terrorists “terrorists”; Blaming Bush for Obama’s inheriting economic problems caused by legislation that Obama himself supported, argued for and voted for; etc. etc. etc)
Nice to see how the commentary tone on the Obama pictures have change in the past 9 months.
i’m not the brightest bulb in the tree, but: is this a photoshop or did the White House actually stage this photo?
You didn’t hear about the panic that savage beast caused? Poodles at the Lincoln Memorial, oh the horrors!
There was BLOOD everywhere!
It’s really the white rabbit in disguise.
“He’s got huge, sharp– he can leap about– look at the bones! “
“What, the rabbit?”
Mabs, my son came to me a while ago and said, “Mom, I saw this awesome movie. Do you know who Monty Python is?”
I was so proud, I nearly cried (his dad didn’t “get” Python).
Aw. That’s one of the best parts of parenting. My husband bought me the entire Monty Python show on DVD for xmas. My son finished watching it before I did.
Actually, it was very cute. He kept waiting for me to finish each DVD, then finally asked if he could ‘skip ahead.’
My son and I are so alike in personality but vastly different in tastes. I never thought we’d connect over anything but Scooby Doo
The moment is going in his baby book, dammit!
Was this the 17 year old? I find very few teenagers get or like Python. My friends thought I was nuts.
I was 17 but 7 years ago and I knew plenty of others my age who liked monty python. Admittedly all of my friends were a bit weird.
Not weird, DU, above the norm.
Most teenagers don’t get political and social satire…
These teenagers were better informed about the last election than most eligible-to-vote adults I know…sadly.
I will say that is true, the last generation surprised me a bit. Although their taste in entertainment annoys me (Miley Cyrus. Jersey Shore) I will say that I am overall impressed with their life decisions.
And then there are others that make me facepalm, but hey, they’re teenagers
Whenever they have a dance, they seem to have ‘discovered’ some new band…like the Beatles. A bit like Nucky’s boy ‘finding’ Monty Python.
They still do amazingly stupid things at times.
In his group of friends I think they could have entire conversations just quoting Monty Python. (I only have the now 17 year old.)
Apparently, I only knew losers with no taste. I’m not really surprised.
Aw. I haz a sad for you. Of course, most of my son’s friends are at the same private school, so automatically you get only pretty smart kids. And obviously really smart people LOVE Monty Python, right?
Well, looking at my ex-husband, I would have to yes, only smart people get and love MP.
Monty Python geeks RULE!
Are you embarrassed easily? I know I am. But that’s all right-it’s all part of growing up and being British.
This would have made a much better Clue reference…
“I’m ready to make an accusation! Obama, with a puppy, by Honest Abe!”
It even conjures the image of Obama using a puppy flail to kill some Victorian dressed individual. Much funnier.
DWN FTW! That’s what I was thinking!!
And because I’ve been watching a ton of crime shows like NCIS, CSI, and Bones, I am seeing Obama get interrogated…
Grissom had calmly laid everything out, how the suspect had lured the victim out with promises, bludgeoned them with a fluffy yap dog, and then buried the body among the bushes but one thing puzzled him. This part of his statement was a question… “Then you buried the dog at Build a Bear?”
Obama’s hands stopped trembling as he finally had a question he could answer. “I figured he would just blend in with all the other fluff…”
Win ^^ *Flashes boobies at DWN as his prize*
Awesome.
. . . although perhaps a larger breed would have sufficed
Unless said Victorian-attired individual was really wimpy . . .
Upon impact, the fluffy creature fractures making for a spiked weight. Obama would have wasted a lot of energy trying to heft a larger weapon, using a yap dog means that you can get a lot of fast strikes in that hit hard.
He took into account conserving his energy for the body disposal.
Aha!
Of course, that would mean that by the completion of the murder, much of the weapon’s biological matter would be strewn about the victim’s corpse . . .
The blood would be falsely thought of as the assailants blood for a time, buying the suspect more time to escape.
I am concerned that you have put so much thought into this. :0
I am concerned that you expected anything less of me. I am dedicated to all my nonsense.
It was the lack of nonsensicality that had me concerned.
(Okay, I know that’s not a word, but someone has to make up the new words since Bush left office.)
I take my nonsense very, very seriously.
Just ask the girls about Ginger…
Perhaps I was really more concerned that it all made total sense to me? I found myself nodding and thinking, that’s totally reasonable, that could work.
Maybe I need some more coffee….
Is it so bad to agree with me. I find that I can be quite agreeable and pleasant at times. XD
But yes, go get your coffee.
…in bed… with a penis…
*Sorry, it had to be done, and I couldn’t help myself… it’s been too long
No, no. *hugs DWN* Not that at all. Just wondering if it was creepy that I was reading to decide if it was a reasonable successful crime scenario.
I usually agree with you.
All night long… *bites Mothergoose*
And good, Mabsba, I’d hate to have to issue spankings, maybe. >.>
MG, that would be challenging as that has gone to work with the rest of his anatomy.
*swoons*
*gives MG another bite* To help tide you over. XD
All of the “bludgeoning with animals” talk made me think of this (link)… Death by Bovine!!!!
Double awesome
I really must try this ginger that you speak of…..fresh, I assume?
Yes, fresh is best. If you want a history lesson, look up Figging.
I fully understand and support your dedication. Without that kind of dedication we would be left with nonsense that just makes no sense whatsoever and that would just be senseless. I propose a crusade against senseless nonsense!
indubitably.
Nonsense should always make some kind of sense though those who can usually find the rationale behind the nonsensical are usually people we don’t want to be around…
Right, it’s the…um…what he said ^^^^^.
The deal with the dog is that the dog only has three legs. Kind of a mutt. Obama called himself a bit of a mutt more than once. And Lincoln is his role model, and I think he believes that someday he will be revered at a great president like Lincoln. So, unwisely, Obama posed in front of Lincoln’s statue with this mutt to illustrate how a man like Obama could grow up to the president. I think it’s creepy myself.
He looks pained at having to lower his chin from it’s normal position.
Photographer: Ok, tilt your head down a little bit
Obama: like this?
Photographer: little bit more
Obama: how’s that?
Photographer: little bit more
Obama: there?
Photographer: Holy freakin’ cow man, like 20 more degrees! don’t make me coax it all out of you *grimace*
Obama: Hurry, I can’t hold it for very long
How dare a president have his head held high! This is America it’s the residents who get to hold our heads high cause we’re awesome! We want our presidents short, stocky, with no neck and no self esteem!
WARGLBLARGLE!
He should hate himself for being a Democrat. He should beat himself and cry that he’s not a noble, saintly Republican. /ultrasarcasm
I’m still unclear what about the iconography of a president holding a puppy in front of another president renders any argument invalid, let alone what irony (if any) there may be. Of course, I only skim on my lunch break.
It’s a somewhat kludgy version of the Your Argument Is Invalid meme.
he is truly a villain like mr evil
IN THE NAME OF OF CAIN IN THE NAME OF CAIN!!!
Puppets are neither evil nor good.
looks shopped.
*facepalm*
But the question is, does it look shopped?
Well this is stupid…
Awww, a bichon!
Bush in front of Lincoln would be ironic.
In what way, darlin’?
Because bushes aren’t made out of iron. Duh.
Thank you very much for this post. A good read indeed…
Two angry camels in a tiny car. Your argument is invalid
Damn…beaten to the punch.
My hair is a bird. Your argument is invalid.
Two camels in a tiny car?
=3 FTW
lmao thats what i was gonna put when i clicked on on this pic!!!
cuz nothing beats two camels in a tiny car haha win
I… can’t believe I read all these comments.
All your arguments are invalid.
2 CAMELS AND A TINY CAR!!!!!!
Makes Obama holding a puppy behind lincoln INVALID
FAIL!
Take your damn blanket and go home, kid.
Linus raped Snoopy… and beat Woodstock…
And yet this is truly all it takes for him to win the hearts of millions. He has a dog. Well, lets see, WHAT DOES A DOG HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS?!?! hes black. well, lets see, WHAT DOES BEING BLACK HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS?!?! black or white, dog or no dog, facebook or no facebook, all that matters is the ideas that he has (which suck btw) and yet he has half of the country swooning after him. mccain at least was a lesser evil. Do you want firearms to be illegal? people that are law abiding citizens will just be hurt by this. people who dont care just armed themselves and law abiders will be even more defenseless. do you want healthcare to be government run? think about canada, where it is government run. most canadians come here for healthcare because the government decides if you are worth treating, and that could take an average of 6 weeks. I COULD BE DEAD IN 6 WEEKS! I could be infected or hurt beyond repair with coplications easily avoided by instant care. He promised change, but he has done nothing but change us for the worse! he lowered the value of the dollar by printing more bills, then gave it to companies and people who failed anyway. The only good thing he has done was with the somali pirates, and that is a no-brainer. reconsider obama and vote for the true choice in 2012: CHUCK NORRIS!!! and yes, he is running, no scam