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2 out of 3 men in this picture look Presidential wearing a red tie
(Bill Clinton and Barack Obama)
Here are a couple that look a little lacking
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Yes the fat guy in the back does look like an American president
*is confused*
Wait, when did Taft shave his mustache?
ZOMG Zombie Taft!!
So he’s going after Clinton’s and Obama’s brains?
OM NOM NOM
OH NOES the images of nomnomming Clinton’s “brains”.
They are grading on a curve… so of course they’re gonna pass two of them…
Actually, the fat guy does look like Bush 43 after way too many Happy Meals.
Or Hillary….
Yeah…not so much like Hilary really.
Lame attempt to rip the democrats is lame.
As is the lame attempt to rip George.
Yay! A stalker troll! Can I keep him?
Got rid of you from the celebrity page- figured it might work here….
You know, if you have a legit criticism, speak your mind. But you are boring with the stuff you are pulling right now. Rando and I are pretty far apart politically, but I have found that you can engage him in honest conversation.
Here’s a suggestion (and I honestly doubt YOU have gotten rid of anybody), why not go back to your celebrity page where I’m sure you’re the local hero. You can then wallow in your self proclaimed greatness, all the while leaving us the f*ck alone. Further, if you wish to continue on with harrassing a regular contributor here, we do have ways of rectifying that situation.
If you promise to feed it, and take it for walks and make sure it gets fixed. Also you might want to train it not to walk on the keyboard.
I know, that white haired guy just looks like he’s chasing some tail.
…which is why he looks like an American president.
Or a French or an Italian president?
Touche.
Two of them look like wimpy Socialists.
MURRRRRDEREEEEERRRRRRS!!1!
ZEE GERMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!11!one elebenty!
Tommy, there’s a gun in your trousers! What is a gun doing in your trousers?
my name’s turkish… funny name for an englishman.
Tommy likes to say he’s named after the gun, but really he’s named after a ballet dancer (or something like that).
*sigh* I haven’t seen this movie either. And I even know what movie you’re quoting.
Snatch. And from someone who rarely watches movies I can tell you it’s well worth seeing.
I once visited the Olympics. There was a guy carrying a pole over his shoulder. I said to him “Are you a Pole Vaulter” and he said “No. I’m a German. How did you know my name vas Valter”
Ba da bum…
watch it. learn it. love it.
then get lock stock and 2 smoking barrels… and watch it. learn it. love it.
Guns for show…. knives for a pro.
*looks up from sharpening her knife collection*
Whut?
I can skin a buck, or run a trout line.
I can dissect almost anything.
—
Why is everyone leaving the room?
I don’t know what’s more worrying Soap, the job or your past.
He like’s to tell people he’s named after a gun, but I know that he’s really named after an English belly dancer.
And here I was all out of froth. Thanks PK!
Oh, the Germans! The Germans are going to get me! Oh, not the Germans!
They’re BELGIANS, you typically ignorant American, you!
**UPDATE**
As of this post {http://punditkitchen.com/2009/11/19/political-pictures-pride-parade-married-wearing/comment-page-1/#comment-269394} typical Americans are no longer ignorant. We are now fat and gay. Please update your notes to reflect this recent change.
Thank you. That is all.
Oh, so socialism is no longer an evil and powerful regime trying to take over America..it’s just a couple wimpy lookin’ guys.
That doesn’t seem like such a big deal.
But we must remain ever vigilant. We must now focus on the specter of the most evil of evils: COMMUNISM!! *gasp*
CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
Mad Eye Moody FTW.
Well, if you’re an uber nerd like me you’d know that it was really Barty Crouch Jr. that said “CONSTANT VIGILANCE!” in his guise as Mad Eye Moody. We really don’t have much of a sense of Moody at all outside of his brief appearance at the beginning of the 5th book.
God. I am such a dork.
*ahem* He WAS in book 7 as well.
Just in time to DIE!!!! *cues Bond music*
*faceslap*
I can’t believe I forgot that. o.O
I think it’s fair to assume that the real Mad Eye said that or similar things, because otherwise the people who DID know him already would have picked up on something strange going on with Barty’s impersonation.
Very true, but strictly speaking we never see Mad Eye say any such thing. BC Jr. is the one who kept repeating it like a broken record.
If you are then so am I. Dorks unite!
Wonder Dork Power, Activate!
Form of… a Book Worm!
if we’re going back to goblet of fire… i’m taking cedric diggory into a hidden classroom for a few hours. k?
He’s all yours as long as I can have Fred and George. Or George and Fred.
if you’re taking 2… then i’m going to take ron with me also. it was a tough choice between krum and ron… but the ginger wins.
Well, if no one else objects you can take Krum and Ron to go with Cedric.
oooooh now this is getting interesting! although, i think the fact that krum and ron hate each other might make things a bit uncomfortable.
if you’re taking fred and george i’ll throw in a complimentary bill weasley. i find the dragon tamer side of charlie quite sexy.
Communism will DEVOUR OUR HEARTS AND CRAP OUT OUR SOULS!!!!!
I was wondering why I felt like crap today and now I understand. I must have been gotten by the Communists.
You should really wash your hands to prevent the spread of Communism.
I’m religious about washing my hands. I must have picked it up from someone in the office.
Ah, yes. The infamous Handwasharians. Sadly Communism is airborne.
No no no, you wash your hands to prevent the swine flu, and as we all know, the capitalists are the PIGS!!11!!!11!!
Capitalists created this forum for you to spew your socialistic views….just sayin
And this country for them to create this forum in…
….and where would we be without the noble pig, anyway? Baconless, I tell you! Baconless!
That’s… not… funny…
*huddles in corner sobbing*
Don’t worry, it was only an example!
*gives Mina a nice bacon sandwich*
Yes, when I use an alternate email, I get a Tetris piece.
*noms sandwich* Nifty tetris peice.
That’s a terrible example. You should never ever even hint at a lack of Bacon! I even know vegetarians who are members of the Church of Bacon™ for so great is the power of the blessed food.
*waves fingers in front of Semperfidd* Oooooh socialism….ooooh socialism gonna getcha!
u know what y dont u just move to north korea
Why don’t you go back to grade school and brush up on those English skills…and some economics and history. WTH, just retake 6th grade while you’re at it. BTW, North Korea =/= true socialism. North Korea =/= extreme dictatorial state where the means of production are kinda “owned” and run by Kim Jong.
NUH-UH! It’s a people’s democratic republic, so there! (Because we all know that what things are called is the only thing that matters.)
actually im taking economics history and English all right now maybe you need to learn more about north Korea
While I agree with you on both points, being goof’s lack of basic English skills, and that NK =/= socialism, I would like to ask, when in history has socialism not turned into some form of a dictatorship? With the exception of the nations that are in the process of turning back from it now.
JAC, take a look at Scandinavia. Granted, they’re all “mixed” socialism but they make it work. Socialism, by it’s very definition, requires a strong cetralized government. So, I believe because of human nature, there will be people who will use that to make power grabs.
@goof – You need to ask for your money back from that school you attend because they’re ripping you off.
HOW, Amen. And that’s my biggest problem with it. And Scandinavia is not even that large of a country, unless I’m waaaaaaaay out of date with my information.
I think the Founding Fathers, who were not diety, as some have implied I think they are, were right about the dangers of a large central govt.
I’m actually not opposed to a lot of the things that people want out of a socialistic govt, but done on a local level, with strong limits on what it can control in a person’s life. And certainly with the ability to opt out of any govt plan.
“And Scandinavia is not even that large of a country, unless I’m waaaaaaaay out of date with my information.”
Scandinavia is in fact not a country at all, no.
I think size oughtn’t matter on how well a given system works – it’s a matter of subdividing government into appropriate regions and matters no matter what system you go for.
Thanks, D. I was just about to correct SAC about Scandinavia =/= country. However, it is -also- about how well a system works. The subdivisions, done the right way, are what help make it successful; that’s not the only reason but it is a part of it.
Oh, indeed – I formulated that rather weirdly. I meant that a system that works works independent of size if the subdividing is good – not that subdividing makes any system good!
Actually North Korea is a perfect example of one form of Socialism. There are two main lines of thinking in Socialism:
Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. North Korea would be the former, while China is moving towards the latter.
Main Entry: de·moc·ra·cy
Pronunciation: \di-ˈmä-krə-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural de·moc·ra·cies
Etymology: Middle French democratie, from Late Latin democratia, from Greek dēmokratia, from dēmos + -kratia -cracy
Date: 1576
1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government
3 capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States
4 : the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5 : the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
Hmm, nothing in there about silencing one’s political adversaries or exiling them to another country. Are you sure you’re an American 529?
If you don’t think America is THE BESTEST IN THE WORLD AND CAN DO NOTHING WRONG then you, sir, are un-American and a TERRORIST!!! Especially if you voice your feelings, a right that’s granted to you by the Constitution (which must be un-American too because it gave -you- that right!)!!!
i dont want 2 moov 2 north korea
i like living hear
you dont like it thats tuff shit goof
i have teh furst amendmant i can talk abowt socialism al i want
That was hard to write. And just about crashed Firefox’s spell check.
In before “You stupid people at PK are just in the tank for Obama… and quit making fun of Bush!”
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!11!!ELEBENTY!!!
How did I get in this tank?
Wandered in while drunk on margaritas and passed out would be my guess.
Tequila makes you pop up in some strange places.
*woozy* Where am I? Oh crap, it’s Tara Reid’s house! Get me outta here!
*zooms in flying on a sailboat*
*texts*
ZOMG I’M RESCUING RANDO!
Oh dear….she’s texting while driving/flying/sailing again…./pre-emptively calls an ambulance and fires Captain Wow
*texts Captain Wow*
ZOMG you just lost your job!
*texts charro*
ZOMG I WAS JUST RESCUED BY CPT WOW!!!!!!
*texts Rando*
ZOMG she was on a boat! You’re on a boat!
*texts Rando*
ZOMG WE’RE FLYING THRU THE AIR! THIS IS NOT GOOD!
*lands on Tara Reid*
ZOMG WE LANDED ON TARA REID!!!!
*Rando & Cpt. Wow go to prison*
I don’t know, but look out for the lobsters. They’re very territorial.
You’re in a tank? Are you Michael Dukakis?
God, I hope not. I think even I’d have a better chance of winning the presidency than ol’ Dukakis did. And I’m too young to be president still.
Looking Presidential unfortunately has no impact on acting Presidential or behaving Presidential, which pretty much zaps everyone but the guy behind the pole.
Are you saying he’s acting presidential?
I’ll have to start wearing my tie with a tiny little knot like that more often…
Fat guy in a little coat…fat guy in a little coat!
Your brain is the one with the shell on it.
Are you talking?
Shut up, Richard.
Dude! Ai totally agree wiff yewz! No impact what-so-freaking-ever!! WTF ish up wiff dat yo?
You’re on the wrong website.
You can let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out, it’s not my door.
No!! It’s my bleeding door!! And don’t any of you touch it!! I’ve just painted the dammned thing
And this just goes to show why some people should not take drugs..
*takes BJello’s drugs from him*
Good call Eds. I’ll find someone more deserving..
You can keep them, I know they will be in safe hands..
*comes out of 5 hour hallucination*
Wowsers! That was INTENSE.
*wanders off into corner*
Um, you’re standing in the corner…uh, never mind.
Sooooooo, which of our presidents have ACTED presidential? And what constitutes acting presidential anyway? Don’t they ALL have skeletons in their closet?
Some of them have wooden teeth in the closet. Or at least the spares.
Didn’t Washington have a pair of Wooden Teeth. You know I had a wooden car once. It had a Wooden Chassis, wooden doors, wooden wheels, and a wooden engine. Guess what it “wooden” go
*snerk*
I hear Dennis Haysbert is good at acting presidential.
Morgan Freeman is pretty good, too. When he isn’t acting like GOD.
Wait, when did he play Obama? I didn’t know they made that movie yet!
/troll
Obama isn’t God. He’s Superman. Duh.
Does that make Biden his kryptonite?
Shhh! Don’t let them know his weakness!
I would have though Jimmy Olson would be more appropriate.
Oh I’d forgotten about him! That would be more appropriate.
But then who/what is his kryptonite? And is anyone batman?
I’m Batman (well, Batwoman that’s had a sex change)!!
Batman lives somewhere else, and is a more violent vigilante type…so I’d say Putin is Batman. And Obama has no kryptonite beause he’s invincible. /hero worship
*Rando chokes on hero worship joke and dies*
Yeah !! Happy faces all around !
Hey, who is using their sock to post stalk me? That’s just not very nice. Who am I kidding? I’m flattered!
I liked Harrison Ford the best…
Martin Sheen gets my vote.
How about not being ashamed of their country and begging the world to forgive us for being Americans? Wait, you asked what constitutes acting presidential, not what constitutes acting like a whiny bitch that is more worried about his popularity among the other leaders than trying to fix a broken country.
Well, how about a little pride in your country? And, no, I don’t think he has much pride when all he tells the world how ashamed he is of the way we are. Yes, I am summing up his words, but do you apologize for something you’re not ashamed of?
WARNING: FROTHY RANT TO FOLLOW:
When our country has acted like a bunch of pompous jackasses who can go blow up whoever the fvck we want, then yeah, we’ve got some fvcking explaining to do. If other countries pulled the shit we pulled, they’d be getting sanctions and embargoes and have other countries trying to stop them. But we’re fvcking AMERICA! We can do whatever the fvck we want, right? It’s okay if the entire rest of the world thinks we’re sleazeballs because of what Bush did, ‘cos we’re America and we’re ALWAYS the good guy! It’s a bunch of horse shit. We fvcked up, and we should apologize for the mistakes we’ve made. You can still be proud of your country and still be ashamed of its actions. Are you proud of the Civil War? The Trail of Tears? The Japanese camps of WWII? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Clinton’s impeachment? Is it okay when it’s our country is doing it? Taking pride in your country doesn’t mind blindly going along with everything we do while screaming “USA.”
And the first person who bitches about Obama bowing gets kicked in the balls. God forbid our president tries to respect another country’s culture. We shouldn’t bow to them! We should beat their asses and say “We’re fvcking America! Recognize, bitch!” Because we’re America and every other country sucks because they’re not us!!!!
/frothy annoyed rant
I’m glad you have the energy to respond because jerkface deserved something and I’m too pooped.
Bravo!
I’ve been fired up since the flap over the bow to the Japanese started.
*psst* He, um, probably is proud of Clinton’s impeachment.
I know. Which brings up another point. He probably enjoyed us impeaching the Democratic president even though it was a massively embarrassing event for this country. So if a Democrat does it, then have a good laugh. But definitely NOT if it’s a Republican.
I would be proud to be impeached for getting a blowjob in the oval office from a chick half my age, even if she was fat and ugly.
She’s way hotter than Hillary at the very least.
The Steve? I’m hotter than Hillary. The bar is pretty low on that one….
You’re way hot.
Global warming.
Poor polar bears.
Won’t anyone think about the Polar Bears.
(And BTW Even a Warthog is hotter than Hillary
)
I know…but a blowjob in the oval office? That’s freaking epic!
Yeah, you have a point there. If I had the chance I can’t say I wouldn’t mind being able to honestly say I gave someone a BJ in the oval office.
Good point. Or on Air Force One. That might be even cooler.
Ooh! And there would be the joining of the mile high club at the same time!
I would mind. But that’s just me.
What if it was -your- BF, VG? Would you blow -him- in the oval office?
Well, Default just said give someone a bj in the oval office. Didn’t specify who. I believe I’d go with my boyfriend. Or Clive Owen. (Hey, it’s ok…he’s on my List.)
OK, the BF…THAT I could see doing.
Or should I say ‘HIM I could see…’
Ohmigod! He was respectful of another cultures customs! Socialist! Muslim! Hitler! Gay!
I know, right? The American president should show his superiority by bitch slapping other world leaders and fvcking their wives (or them if the world leader is a woman). Then blowing the shit out of a random city just to show them who’s boss. Who cares if they’re not actually an enemy?
Well, Obama is also gay so he can fsck the world leaders even if they aren’t women. I was hoping this administration would choose to attack paupa new guinea mostly because I like to say the name and it would be a good excuse to say it a lot but so far the jerks made no attempt to attack anywhere!
Oh, you’re kind of wrong there too Default Loser. You see, just because Obama didn’t start a war doesn’t mean he isn’t involved in a war. He actually is attacking people in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. As president he has the power to stop those wars if he really wanted to, but he doesn’t. He can give lip service to peace all he wants, but I’m not buying any of it as long as there are U.S. troops in other countries fighting the same two wars we had before he showed up.
/giggle
Are your arguments so weak that you have to attack my name?
He sorta inherited that war when he became president. He’s working to remove troops from Iraq while leaving the country as stable as possible so another dictator like Sadam doesn’t rise to power as soon as were gone.
What about Afghanistan? He isn’t in a rush to leave there. Bush already had signed the agreement to pull troops out of Iraq before Obama even got into office. I don’t see Obama doing anything different than Bush.
You don’t rush into or out of a war in Afghanistan. For one, if you rushed out, the solders last to leave would be in an extremely dangerous situation. Because the villagers have come to depend on the USA to prevent the taliban from coming back and throwing acid on the faces of their wives and daughters. And we have made some promises there, so I wouldn’t blame the villagers for attacking in justifiable anger.
That’s what George Bush was doing too.
I would fvck Sakozy’s wife….that’s for sure.
You would have to be careful not to get bruised!
I know you want to believe that we just went in by ourselves, but that is not true. Yes, we were the major player, but it wasn’t just America. Besides, the UN gave Iraq, what, 17 sanctions? And, how far did that go? You want to cry about not finding WMDs, but you know he had them. Where did they go? That was all he had to do was produce them, or show that they were destroyed. No, I don’t think we should be ashamed of that.
Also, if our president thinks that there is a good chance that another country is planning to attack us, whether it’s directly or indirectly by allowing terrorists to train in their country, then yes, I think it is his duty to take action. And, this wasn’t just the US intelligence. It was a consensus among the entire world.
I know you want to blame it all on Bush, but then there’s this:
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” — From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
Yes, we invaded, but that’s because Bush didn’t want to just throw millions of dollars away for nothing. We put an end to it.
So, are you really that ashamed that we protected ourselves, and possibly other countries?
Saddam was batsh*t crazy, but he wasn’t stupid. I would guess he knew that attacking the US would be a fatal move and therefore he never did. I know of no evidence that he was planning to attack us or any other country for that matter. And the evidence presented for WMDs was shoddy at best and makes it unsurprising that we didn’t find anything because there was nothing there to find.
But… but… you KNOW that he had them! gniknihtdrawkcab said so!
Gesundheit?
{http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2006/06/22/the_real_story_on_wmds_needs_to_be_told_–_but_carefully}
Just sends me to the home page.
Me too. I dont know why. At any rate I pulled on santorum wmd and hewitt
Well he did invade Kuwait, so he had a bit of previous..
He also sent significant money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. Which qualifies as meddling in the affairs of Israel/Palestine.
Whether Iraq had WMDs was never a question, it had used them. Fromthe congressional resolution authorizing the use of force against Iraq:
“Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people”
Also, we sold those WMDs to Iraq, as a ‘balance’ for Iran. I think Cheney was part of the administration back then…
The question is whether the WMDs still existed at the time of the US invasion, or whether they had all been used or dismantled for parts.
And we had sold them with the intent of them being used against Iran. Because we don’t like Iran.
The sale to Iran was a good thing, it prevented Iran from overrunning Iraq, which it seemed they would do. In any case there were WMDs in Iraq:
{http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2006/06/22/the_real_story_on_wmds_needs_to_be_told_–_but_carefully}
But not only could we not find them before the war, Saddam was successfully preventing us from inspecting them on his military sites. It was only after we invaded that they started showing up as ieds and dumped all over the country. Someone had to dump them there. Did they dump all of them, or just the ones that were aging off?
Just in case that link doesnt work, pull on santorum wmd and hewitt
Symantex and a cell phone does not a WMD make.
It does if you’re looking for ANY excuse.
No they were strapping them to the ieds and blowing them up together, they were wmds
It certainly makes a weapon, and creates serious devastation on whomever is in that neighborhood…which might be large in a city. But WMD implies taking out the whole of a city. “Mass” destruction, after all.
Looking for any excuse to what?
To invade a country I believe.
Yes, Default, thanks. I must be having one of those “complete thoughts not reaching fingers” days.
not necessarily, like nuclear artillery shells, some are designed for use against military units. For a chemical weapon, I cant imagine its range of effectiveness can be very extensive once it is in the open air.
@jim. I have yet to hear of any nuclear, biological or non-explosive chemical substances to have been found at any IED site. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, but I have been keeping my ear out for such a report. I do know that they found a warehouse or some such large space with traces of radioactivity all over it, but not at any IED site. So forgive me if I maintain my stance of ‘no proof yet’.
@jim. Mustard Gas. Destroyed the lungs of many, many soldiers in WWI. Truly evil stuff, and not that hard to make–and it aerosolizes very nicely. There are also some ‘lovely’ neurotoxins which would similarly aerosolize very well.
BTW, I teach science at the college level, medical-related stuff.
We didnt have to look for an excuse to invade Iraq, we could have used any of the dozen UN resolutions. Iraq was not living up to the agreements it made to end the first war, one of which was to let us examine their arsenals of wmds. I still dont see the point to these UN resolutions, countries like North Korea, Iran, and Iraq are going to ignore them anyway, and the UN isnt willing to enforce them.
I suppose mustard gas was more effective in WWI because it was a trench war and the gas settled into the trenches. I was thinking more about how far near to the ground a chemical weapon might carry if it was blown up say a block or two from you. I do remember from basic our drills telling us we were toast if we did get gassed. Those atropine shots were intended to keep us going long enough to complete the mission.
I think the tie to ieds appears in the original report that declassified the info about the wmds. Some of the guys coming back should know.
I don’t think I can afford this rant. It must be at least 5 dollars on the paranoid half truth and innuendo truck. Do you have anything cheaper?
The economy hits everyone eventually. Don’t blame a guy for trying to make a buck or three. Or ten.
I just went past it on the other side; that crazy cart was blocking the sidewalk.
Wow, you bought all that? You sure are gullible. Saddam had nothing. And we had a couple countries’ support, but only the ones trying to suck up to us (Britain for example). We put an end to it? It’s over? Then why are still there if it’s over? “Mission accomplished” was years ago.
We weren’t protecting anyone. We were bullying another country under the guise of protecting ourselves from a threat, and when it came to time to prove that threat, we FAILED. The Iraq War was a massive embarrassment. If we had actually protected ourselves, that would be one thing. But we’re now just the world’s biggest bully.
A couple of countries if you define a couple as 20. I only define a couple as 2 unless it’s a really crazy night.
1. I want a cite, and I want to know the exact countries who supported us in that clusterfvck.
2. 20 isn’t that many, especially when most of our allies were dead set against us.
I got the figures from globalsecurity.org.
Here is the list of 21: Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark
, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, South Korea, and the United Kingdom.
I went with the short list so you wouldn’t accuse me of exaggerating the numbers. Some reports say 27-34 depending on which numbers you want to believe.
Wow. There’s a powerful list of allies if I ever saw one. Pfft.
Please to not be scoffing at mighty army of Moldova. We will be waiting for you in your parking lot tonight when you are leaving the work in the dark. Look for somewhat modified Yugo.
What? The whole army in the Yugo?
Shhhh! We call it a Clown Car, remember?
Denmark sent a whole nuclear submarine. My cousins thought it was hysterical. “Oooh the Iraqis are shaking in their shoes now!”
“Hey, the Americans are on the phone. They want to know if there’s anything we can donate to the Iraq War?”
“*sigh* Fine, let them have a submarine. That’s it. We’re not doing anything else this time. And don’t let them sell you any cookies either.”
Canada would have sent our navy, but it’s just a canoe with six mounties and no paddles….
Sorry, I love that joke…..
Hey, it’s a new joke for some of us!
But that isn’t the point, is it? The point is we didn’t go into Iraq alone, or even with a couple of chosen allies. We had the support of numerous countries. As for allies that were dead set against us, I only know of two – Russia and France. Most of the other countries that were against going into Iraq wouldn’t really be considered allies.
But there again Iraq is now a democracy, and there aren’t many of THOSE in the middle east. And how long it will stay that way is anybody’s guess: they don’t seem to rate democracy as a priority over there. But I reckon a lot of ordinary Iraquis were happy with the way things turned out (apart from the dead ones).
Um, not to be a pain or anything (we Canadians do try to be polite), but we were against going into Iraq as well……and I think we are considered an ally……sorry to interrupt……
Ok, make that three.. I wasn’t aware that Canada didn’t join in the invasion.
No one pays attention to Canada anyway.
We know….and we’re sorry about that.
Hehehe, Canadians… Strangest failblog post of the day.
And look how many on that list are former Eastern Block and former Soviet republics. The only reason they’re on that list is they were hoping for some future consideration and protection from Russia. Look how far -that- got Georgia.
Bought into what? That other countries’ intelligence said he had them as well? Yeah, it’s pretty well documented. And, are you saying that the hundreds of thousands of his own people that he put to death didn’t happen? I guess the holocaust didn’t happen either.
And, you do know we are still in Germany, right? No, we’re not getting attacked there, but that’s not my point. My point is that when we invade, we usually leave people behind. And, this is not a conventional war. It’s not our military against theirs. They hide, they use citizens as shields, etc. And, even when everything’s settled down, I believe we will leave part of our military there.
The problem I have with your point of view is that someone has to actually attack us before you believe we have a right to attack back. I don’t follow that line of thinking. If my neighbor (or even someone in the next county over) kept looking at my house through a scope on a high powered rifle, I would probably do something about it. Especially if he had made comments about how I (or my family) should die.
In my opinion, you are the gullible one. You don’t want to believe that there are actually bad people in the world that would cut your heart out at the drop of a hat for no real reason other than you’re not like them.
Stalin killed millions of his own people but we went all buddy buddy with him in WWII to fight the Germans.
I know we’re still in Germany and Japan as well. Though I don’t recall a noticeable death rate from either of those countries regarding US Troops.
Still, evidence of scope and high powered rifle was shoddy at best and was never found.
All arguments aside, I am curious about what the death rate was in German and Japan around 1945 – 1950.
And, I didn’t figure you’d like the high powered rifle analogy. What I was getting at is that if I thought that my family was in danger, I would take care of that danger, if I could. It was the best I could come up with while writing SQL scripts.
My point stands. There was little to no evidence that he was going to attack us. There was definitely no evidence that he was in league with bin laden who we were supposed to be going after. Bin Laden actually hated the man and considered him to be an infidel as well.
Bill Clinton bombed Iraq in 1998 without getting permission from the UN and without evidence of a threat. I haven’t heard anyone complain about Clinton being a bully. Every president has had problems with Saddam Hussein ever since he decided to use chemical weapons on his own people. He was a monster and we will be better off in the long run with him gone.
I’ll give you that Saddam was a batshit monster, and that I don’t miss him at all. Very odd though that of all the batshit monster dictators we’d go after him. Hmmm. He wasn’t a direct threat at all. He was an asshole who acted big and liked picking on countries smaller than him (Kuwait). But the way he acted after the first Gulf War was some sad little attempts at rebelling against the UN sanctions. Try to act like a big man when he wasn’t really one. Was this really worth the lives of thousands of our soldiers?
As for Clinton bombing Iraq in ‘98, that’s a far cry from an invasion. That was a hand slap.
So by your logic we should never have attacked Germany? There was no evidence they would attack us either. We should have just set back then or just fought Japan. It’s not enough of a reason that the leader of the country is a lunatic bent on world domination who doesn’t mind killing his own people to reach his goal?
Well, there was the whole bit where they attacked our allies, the British and took over France. We even resisted entering the war at first but there was some incident with a passenger ship in Britain with US passengers that got people a little upset.
I didn’t say our allies, I said us. Besides if you want to include incidents you could talk about Iraq shooting at our planes in 1999 and ignoring the no fly zones they had agreed to.
We didn’t go all buddy buddy with Stalin. Yes, we fought on the same side but there were many Americans that wanted to take out Russia after we defeated the Germans. General Patton comes to mind first. Here is what he thought of Russia:
The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin, they have not changed. They never will and we will never learn, at least, not until it is too late.
We have destroyed what could have been a good race of people and we are about to replace them with mongolian savages and all of Europe with communism.
If it should be necessary for us to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it, the better.
We could have arrived sooner but for the fact that if one flies over Russian occupied territory they shoot at you. Nice friends.
The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinese or a Japanese. From what I have seen of them I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russians have no regard for human life and they are all out sons of bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks.
I believe that Germany should not be destroyed, but rather should be rebuilt as a buffer against the real danger, which is Russia and it’s Bolshevism.
Russia knows what it wants. World domination. And she is laying her plans accordingly. We, on the other hand, and England, and France to a lesser extent, don’t know what we want and get less than nothing as the result.
Let’s keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Russians. This is the only language that they understand and respect. If you fail to do this, then I would like to say that we have had a victory over the Germans, and have disarmed them, but we have lost the war.
There are all kinds of low class slime who are trying and will continue to try to wreck this country from the inside. Most of them don’t know it, but they are actually working for the Russians. Some of them do know it, though. It doesn’t matter whether they call themselves communists, socialists, or just plain liberals. That is what they are doing.
He seemed a bit racist against the Russians didn’t he? We did “keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Russians.” and won the cold war without invading. Worked out pretty well without sending in thousands of troops to get slaughtered.
Yeah, unfortunately he never figured out what to do with people like you. The low class slime who are trying and will continue to try to wreck this country from the inside whether they call themselves communists, socialists, or just plain liberals.
He wasn’t racist against the Russians, he just understood them too well. Who won the cold war? We wisely kept up with the Russians in the arms race even though we had to drag a lot of Democrats kicking and screaming. If we had disarmed without preconditions or just quit trying to compete we would be speaking Russian by now. That’s why it pays to have a strong military.
Low class slime?! Wreck this country from the inside? I’ve never liked you, guest, but now it’s more than obvious that you are nothing more than a squished piece of dog shit that your mom left in Eddie’s yard. Guess what, pal, YOU are what’s wrong with America. You’re a lousy American, and you’re gonna ruin this country, not Default User, or me, or Obama, or any other liberal. Eat shit and die.
Again, are your own arguments so weak that you have to insult me in order to make yourself fell better?
Wow, quite the racist, fvcktard, aren’t we? You’re the kind that the Republicans love to recruit. “Russians are scum. We’re the superior race.” You’re pathetic.
You know, I was some what in support of your arguments in this debate, but it boggles the mind why you chose to take the low road. Just because someone has a differing opinion than you doesn’t mean that they are trying to ruin the country. That smack of McCarthyism and should never be tolerated. You don’t like the direction the discussion is taking, disengage and move on. Otherwise, do try and keep it above board, ok?
Rando, why should anyone give a sh$t if you like them or not? Is that supposed to punish people from speaking their minds because you happen to dissapprove? You think a little bit too much of yourself and your influence. What you think about one poster or another has nothing to do with any argument.
I was just quoting Patton. I think he hit the nail on the head though. If you are so in love with the ideals of communism or socialism there are plenty of other countries you can move to without trying to make us something we are not and were never intended to be.
Rando is one of the ones who knows what he is doing and is doing it intentionally. Maybe not to wreck the country, but to try to mold it into his own little communist utopia.
Sorry guest, but Seth was the communist. Rando is simply a lefty liberal. And for the record, I consider myself a liberal/libertarian hybrid. And being a liberal is not being anti-patriotic. I was very proud of a couple young men I know who signed up to serve when they were old enough. I’m too old and asthmatic to serve, but I can train young people in medical-related fields to better serve those who are in need. And I care enough about this country to pay attention, vote regularly, and NOT tune out when someone accuses me of being unpatriotic because they disagree with my politics.
I’m not in love with communism. I like the theory but don’t believe it would ever work. We are trying to make this country into a great place to live and a place to be proud to live. If you don’t like the way were going about doing that then I recomend you run for public office and try to change it. Don’t go around insulting people just because you can’t get them to agree with you. It’s that kind of behavior that will tear this country apart. Not terrorists. Not socialism. Not the Christian right. But people acting like selfish whiny 6 year olds who can’t stop and listen to the other side for five minutes without calling them a doody head.
Oh please, Rando a communist? Besides, who are you to say whether the utopia he has in mind is an altogether bad thing? It doesn’t look like the one your group tried to put together isn’t working out all that well. And before you even suggest it, 1) I’m not a Democrat, 2) I’m not a communist or socialist, and 3) I still consider myself a Republican, just not the current flavor of the month.
guest, I’ve said many times that I know better than to believe that communism would ever work. I like the ideals of it, but I’m not stupid. And I never, ever believe it would even be attempted here. You think the country is moving towards socialism? Eh, maybe a little bit, but again, I don’t see it taking over everything. But we’ve had bits of socialism for a long, long time.
It’s very flattering that you think I would be able to mold this country into something I want. Obviously, I can’t. I can support politicians who share my views, but I’m not planning a communist revolution. How stupid. I joke about it a lot here, and in an ideal world I’d like to see it happen, but it’s just not practical.
As for trollybaby, I don’t give two shits if anyone likes or dislikes what I say about guest. He’s a vile little conservatroll who doesn’t deserve my respect. I don’t expect anyone to follow me, but there are those who appreciate my contributions here on both the left and the right. I don’t want followers here. It’s a goddamned LOL site! How silly is that! I’d rather have friends here than followers.
>blockquote>I’d rather have friends here than followers.
And at least you know who those people are.. The rest can take a flying f*ck at the moon.
So that’s how the moon got all those craters… *snickers*
That big, low class, slimey crater? That’s guest.
Why is it that conservatives are the only ones on here who aren’t allowed to stoop to a lower level. I made a joke based on a Patton quote and I was summarily called a piece of dog sh!t, a racist fvcktard, told to eat sh!t and die, not to mention all the previous times I was called a douche, douche bag, etc. It’s a double standard when I can’t talk about what I believe in without being called names, but then when I say something disparaging towards people I disagree with that wasn’t even my own words then people go off on me for not being tolerant. Rando is the most intolerant person on this site and he degrades people that he disagrees with on a regular basis. If you want to get on to someone for not being tolerant you might want to talk to him.
Anyone can say they like the theory of communism, but don’t think it would work. There are at least two of you in this thread. It doesn’t matter what you say, what matters is what you support. If you support programs that move us incrementally towards communism because you like the idea of communism then you are supporting the rise of communism in the U.S.
Don’t tell me the Cold War is over or that communism is dead. You will have to convince the Russians that the Cold War is over first. There was a cafe in Moscow that opened called the Anti-Soviet Cafe (translated), the government stepped in and made them change their name to the Soviet Cafe. There are reporters killed on the streets there for trying to report on the corruption in the government there. Putin stepped down, but he still runs the country and he isn’t a big fan of the U.S. If he doesn’t run the country, then why does he sit at the head of the table?
Even if you don’t take Russia into consideration communism is alive and well today and it’s ideals are being spread in this country by the same people who were protesting the Vietnam War in the 60’s. They figured out that they can make a bigger difference inside the system rather than outside. So they became professors and politicians. One to mold the minds of new generations and one to mold the policies of this country.
Most of them would never openly embrace communism, although there are some now who will, they will condemn it in word and silently move the policies in that direction. It isn’t anything new and anyone who denies it is happening is either very naive or they are trying to cover it up. If you read the Communist Manifesto and the tenets then you will be able to recognize the programs that are pushing us towards communism and be able to oppose them.
Sorry, guest, but I’ve reread your posts several times and there is nothing there to indicate you were joking. Everyone else just called it like you wrote it…..
You notice that I never go off on froo, or Eddie, or diss, and only rarely get nasty with JAC? It’s because they’re not ignorant sheep like you do. When you say something, I know it’s going to be stupid. When they say something, I’ll actually pay attention. Very often I won’t agree, but I’ll pay attention. Republidrones like you, n00bs, & jim who all guzzle the kool-aid while bathing in it don’t get my respect. As a passionate liberal, there aren’t many conservatives I even like. But there are some here that I look past political differences for.
And FTR, when you start calling an entire race of people something nasty, that’s racism. And that isn’t gonna fly here without getting ripped into. Boohoo.
Rando’s a repugnant ass- get used to it.
Ahahahahaa!! LMAO! Oh, pathetic little troll. Are you butthurt that Rando made you look pretty much like an ignorant idiot? So, your only solutions, because your arguments are weak, uniformed, and hold no water is to stalk him, with your sad little name, and resort to name-calling? The fact that you must resort to that only proves that your arguments are useless. *pats troll’s head* Move along now.
Rando has already been name-calling so your argument is invalid. Also, you resorted to name-calling before you could even make your point, so your argument is not only invalid it’s also an indictment against yourself.
That’s the first post I have seen from RandotheLame so I don’t know why you would say he has already been made to look ignorant.
RandoLame = sock. And I wasn’t arguing. I -was- specifically name calling. But not because I’m butthurt, like Lame, because I’m being a troll right back at Lame.
Shaq is holding an panda. YOUR argument is invalid.
Stalker trolls are awesome. This makes me so HAPPY! But your insults are kinda lame. C’mon, insult me some more! You can do better!
Oh, and we are still there to help them rebuild their country. It’s the same thing we have done in every country we blew up in a war. We’re still in Germany and Japan and that war was over half a century ago. If you want to complain about a long war try Korea. That war is still technically going since they only signed a cease-fire agreement and North Korea recently rejected it.
A large portion of the government did NOT want to rebuild Germany and Japan. (my mother remembers listening to the arguments on the radio). But lesson learned from how we treated Germany after WWI prevailed, thank goodness!
We did NOT rebuild Afghanistan after our fight there with Russia. OK, that wasn’t a declared war, but it was real to the Afghanis!
I’m confused now. Are you saying we should leave now, just drop everything and get out or we should stay and help them rebuild the country?
Before you ask, I was never in favor of going into Iraq in the first place but I have never been in favor of abandoning the country after the mess we made there.
As for Afghanistan, I say we declare victory and gtfo of there!
And leave it for the French to clean up ( like they did to us with Korea and Vietnam)
Really? Because that’s where the Taliban likes to make it’s home. That was the war the general populace was in favor of after 9/11. That was where we thought Bin Laden was. It seemed like a good idea to attack them. We weren’t doing to badly in Afghanistan before we went into Iraq but once we started Iraq we forgot about Afghanistan and the Taliban started creeping back out of their caves. If you want to stop the terrorist threat and protect our borders then you should be going after them. Not Iraq.
Honestly, I was totally in favor of whooping ass in Afghanistan in 2001. Like most Americans I wanted to see Bin Laden brought to justice. I hated the Taliban (still do). I was actually totally with Bush until the Iraq thing. Then it was like “Wait…I thought we were after Bin Laden?” It was all downhill from there. Honestly, I’m not really sure what we’re fighting for there this time. I’m a little disappointed in Obama pushing that battle. I know we can’t just leave Iraq, but I’m also not happy with his exit strategy there either.
72% of Americans supported the war in Iraq when it started. So the general populace was also in favor of that war. Many of them got squeamish when they realized it wouldn’t be like Desert Storm where we just went in, kicked their butts and left. It is a big sacrifice we have made to stay and try to stabilize Iraq so that we won’t have to keep going back.
Here Rando, here’s the site.
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/770/iraq-war-five-year-anniversary
I was totally for going into Afghanistan, and finishing the job. That was where the training camps were, and the locals did NOT like the Taliban…which is why most who could afford to, got the heck out of the country.
I was against going into Iraq from the very beginning. I hated Saddam Hussein’s actions and beliefs, but I didn’t think the justification was sufficient for the probable expense in lives and money (still don’t). And it distracted us from finishing properly in Afghanistan. And unlike many, I do remember the ridiculous claim that the oil revenue from Iraq would pay for the reconstruction. Yeah, right…
Saddam had the 5th largest army in the world as I recall. And Mission accomplished had been put up by the crew on that ship because their mission – to oust Saddam – had been accomplished. It was their banner. Something I thought about years later was the fact that Bush landed a jet on a carrier, which says alot about his intelligence – that he knows how to fly a jet – and that he was able to land a jet on a carrier, a difficult thing that few pilots ever qualify to do. GWB was a remarkable man. Iraq, if it makes it, will be a fitting monument to GWB. I havent forgotten the faces of the people holding their hands up in the air with the stained finger which showed they had been able to vote. It was a great moment.
GWB was a remarkable man?! How much crack have you smoked today???
Only about an ounce or so.
Oh, you weren’t asking me? My bads..
Have you smoked enough to think GWB was a remarkable man yet?
Well that depends… He was certainly remarkable at taking our reputation and dragging it through the dirt.
He was very remarkable in that aspect.
He was remarkable in the fact that I remarked about him constantly..
But right now I’m so geeked out on crack, I’ll remark for hours on anything. What do you want to talk about?
Puppies! I want to talk about puppies because guest & jim up there are sending me in to a frothy rage. So, yeah, puppies.
I totally agree with you Jim. George Bush was remarkable and I think one day he will be remembered as the greatest president this country has ever had.
I think even George Bush himself would look at you and shake his head, wondering how in the world such a stupid remark could come out of a human mind.
Shhh, that was for Rando and HelonWheels. I’m waiting for a head explosion.
Head explosion? Nah, I just laughed my ass off. You’re joking, though, right? Not even the righties believe that one, especially with Reagod on their team.
Just to counter some the things you ranted about, while it’s true that the things you listed make America look bad, it isn’t the sum total of what America stands for. Let’s consider the fact that whenever there has been a disaster, regardless of the magnitude, it’s always America that steps in and tries to help out. We send teams of doctors, flight upon flight of supplies, and the average citizen ponies up money to help support the effort. It’s ok to highlight some of the more notable f*ck ups, but can we strike a balance with the humanitarian efforts the country puts forth? I can well imagine you could count on one hand the number of countries that have stepped up when American had a disaster. I would like to see what the response would be if just once America didn’t lend any type of support. In other words, Rando, we’re damned if we do and damned if we don’t.
You noticed that too?
The speccti makes a good point. Where were all the other countries when Katrina hit?
That was when I decided to stop sending any type of aid (financial or otherwise) to other countries with natural disastors, is when I looked around after Katrina and the only volunteers were from the US. I’ll be glad to help out my fellow countrymen, but the rest of the world can kiss my rear end.
Well, I do know that Canada and Australia sent help and I can imagine the UK did as well. I don’t know about any other countries though.
There is a HUGE long list of the countries that offered help after Katrina. The USA refused most of their offers. I found the list on wikipedia, and posted it a few months back. I’m sick today, so look it up for yourself.
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina}
Send help as in throw money at the situation or did volunteers come in? About 90% of the volunteers I met were from the Mid-west. Sorry to be ranting about this, but it’s a hot button with me.
Volunteers who aren’t invited usually don’t go. Many countries seem to get slightly jittery about having foreigners come in and help if not specifically asked.
I know that a few countries loaded up ships with volunteers and materials…even a couple cruise ships. But they were told ‘forget it, we can handle this ourselves’. NOT one of our finest hours. Even if we hadn’t needed the help, it was churlish to refuse in that manner. We could have said ‘can you wait until we see what we really need?’
About the cruise ships, there was at least one that was used, and from what I understand of the conditions on board, a person would have been better off in the Superdome or on the streets of NO. A big part of the problem with New Orleans in particular was that there was only minimal effort to evacuate people and those who chose to stay were not help liable for that decision. Many of us preferred the more recent philosophy- “Leave, because there will be no emergency services for at least 72 hours after the fact. If you don’t leave, at least have the decency to write your SSN on your arm so we can identify your remains.” Harsh, but it’s what some of those people needed to hear.
I gather that many of those who did not leave were indeed foolish. But some of them didn’t have the money or the vehicle to get out. And the NO government was f-ing blind to people outside of their own social/financial class, and did not create the contingencies for those folk to escape.
It reminds me of my own doctor’s office yesterday afternoon. “You should go to the family health center in Wilmington. They will see you.” Uh huh. I’ve got a fever, I live by myself, and the neighbors who I could call on to drive me 30 minutes to that center and wait with me for an hour or two are elderly…and one of them is a repeat heart patient. (I’m contagious right now). When I pointed all of this out, the receptionist’s response was ‘Oh.’ (fortunately, the doc herself isn’t an idiot)
Oh dear, you really doing bad. /adds in some chicken soup and a bottle of NyQuil to the previous offering of cookies, milk, and vicodin
@ VG- Yeah, most of us were pretty ticked when we found out that the city waited until the last minute to even try to get people out. I mean by using school buses, city buses, and whatever else they had. That was the biggest problem, but at least the current gov. has learned from past mistakes. The last big storm to hit, things were handled much better.
How come you can say vicodin and I can’t?! WTF?!
Retarded. Somewhere in my name brand opioid rant I got flagged.
LAME PK, LAME!
@Default user. Thanks for the soup! I’ve got a bit of appetite back this morning, and that hits the spot.
I’m pretty sure I spelled vicodin wrong so it’s not getting flagged.
There’s an interesting Wikipedia page (yes, yes, I know Wikipedia isn’t the best truthsayer, but a place to start, at least) on offered international aid after Katrina.
I suppose I shouldn’t generalize like that. I wasn’t in New Orleans, I was a little (a very little) further north. Every single person I met that had come to help was a US citizen. I don’t know who was in NO at the time.
Now admitted my Danish cousins are anti-Bush, but they were horrified at the refusal of aid…including trained disaster specialists.
It seems like Walmart was the only US organization with a clue in that situation…
A lot of the refusal of aid was initiated by the idiot governor we had at the time. I’m so glad I got the chance to tell that woman exactly what I think of her. It was so worth losing that job. And honestly, we probably wouldn’t have needed much if any help had the levee not broken. Until that happened, NO wasn’t the worst hit area, not by a long shot. If you were to talk to just about anyone who lived in LA at the time, they would get a little frothy about Blanco and her epic fail of a term.
I’m sure the blame goes around pretty far. It takes a large number of idiots to get a mess that big. I think the NO mayor should have been sent out on his butt by the voters, also. Not to mention the idiots who reorganized FEMA, taking away the input of the locals as to what disasters they thought were most likely to happen… And our congresspeople over the past 2 or 3 decades who refused to fund an improvement of the levee system…
For what it is worth, my college has been sending kids to the general area for ‘alternative spring break’ every year. I can’t go–allergic to mold–or I would have my crowbar and power drill ready.
I think there are several colleges that have similar programs, and they are doing a lot for the city. Now it’s a matter of getting the locals involved again. Most are just tired of hearing about it. Many left as soon as they could get out and haven’t been back since. And I totally understand about the mold allergy- I have the same problem. I haven’t been brave enough to step foot in New Orleans since the flood because if it.
My mom is a member of CERT(community emergency response team) and was actually supposed to go to NO right after Katrina to help with the relief effort and she had to get a number of shots before going including something for mold and fungus (not really sure exactly what). She spent a bit of time getting prepared but at the last minute the group she was going with was told they weren’t needed.
I’d imagine that those people who came from other countries probably worked in separate teams. It’d cause more of a mess than help, I imagine, having people working together who can’t communicate in anything but rudimentary sign language, or so.
Strewth. Isn’t America big enough to look after itself? Anyway Britain spent millions sending food aid to victims of Katrina in the form of NATO ration packs. And some of it spent weeks sitting in warehouses while the FDA tried to establish whether it was ‘fit for consumption’. Ungrateful bastards.
Hey, it’s not just the international stuff — there was an entire warehouse full of donated ice up here that somehow got screwed up in logistics and never made it down there; they ended up melting it all sometime last year I think. Yep, you did a heckuva job, Brownie.
I never said we didn’t do good things. Of course we do. But this war is a ginormous black eye on our reputation, and showing a little remorse wouldn’t hurt us.
Let just say that one reason why America is looked upon unfavorably to the rest of the world has a lot to do with the perception that the leaders in America project. Other countries see a lot of bickering and back-biting going on, and immediately seize upon the argument that appeals to them the most. I’m not saying that I necessarily support the war in Iraq, but it doesn’t look good that after the fact our own people in Congress start running the effort down – even after they voted to go in.
I don’t know about that. Bickering is normal in a democracy, as is a free press (ish..). Since the morality of invading Iraq was definitely a bit of a grey area it’s hardly surprising that all the allies had internal conflicts over it, or that the press stoked it up.
No, I think you missed my point. The bickering is normal, but it’s the back-biting after approving the invasion that caused a lot of strife.
Well if it’s any consolation the bickering in UK continued to the final withdrawal, and still continues over Afghanistan. It’s annoying and embarrassing for the government but the opposition is there to hold them to account and to make sure that whatever is done is done for the right reasons.
It also didn’t help how the media chose to portray a lot of what was going on at the time.
Oh look, the paranoid half truth and innuendo truck is here! Will a quarter get me an email chain about Obama being a Muslim? Will 50 cents get me a Kenyan birth certificate?
75 cents will get you a copy of Barry’s college transcript where he got *GASP* straight D’s!!!!! ZOMG!!!
Look what I can get for a dollar! An accusation that Obama forced the post office to sell an Eid al Fitr stamp to Christmas hating, building bombing Muslims!
For a dime you can also get a sheet of hitler mustache stickers to place on pictures of Obama.
That’s right in my price range.
You probably still have your poster of Bush with a Hitler mustache.
She may not but I do. Now, I’m calling the police because you’ve obviously been in my house, uninvited.
That’s nonsense. I have my button that says “Bush lies, soldiers die.” But nothing with a Hilter mustache. That’s silly.
I can’t tell who in this picture looks presidential wearing a red tie. Clinton and Obama are in the way so I can’t see who else is wearing a red tie.
Two out of three of the men wearing a red tie in this picture actually possess a neck.
But it’s a socialist neck, so it doesn’t count.
Does that mean they have to share it with everyone?
Perhaps they donate blood to vampires mooching off welfare and doing crack.
If they’re welfare abusing vampire addicts couldn’t they mooch from Rush Limbaugh’s blood and get a free oxy fix at the same time?
Second hand opiates, yay!
If vampieres go after Obama, can he ward them off with a copy of the Koran? Will it work like a crucifix?
Vampieres (French Female vampires- the best type)
Only vampires that don’t sparkle though.
That goes without saying.
*looks up from smoking blood-soaked crack*
Whut?
Ok, I’m stumped, which two look presidential?
Little known to anyone, Bill Clinton is not wearing any pants in this picture ( Giggity giggity!)
Hmmm…. seems PK can only sustain “funny” for a short while and them it’s back to crap.
Although, to be fair, this crap is just out there kinda weird. It’s puzzling crap; I don’t know what the person who crapped it ate.
It’s not particularly funny. I’m not a big fan of hero worship LOLs, even if they’re people I like. And I know I’m gonna have to spend the rest of the day reading comments from conservatrolls bashing Bill & Barack. I don’t like it.
I know. It makes my stomach feel squirmy. If I were overly paranoid I would think it was actually made by someone on the right side in order to attract more people of their mindset OR made by someone on the left who wants to attract the crazies that make their side look bad. Bottom line, no one wins here today.
Hero worship LOLs makes baby Jesus cry.
All the better reason to retreat to someplace more private. Eh Babe?
*winks*
*picks up camera*
You and Janie have fun Maxwell..
*grins innocently*
Somewhere out there, an aging hippie is fapping.
That’s the only explanation for how unfunny stuff like this makes the front page.
“…an aging hippy is fapping….”
What?
The only mental image I can come up with is someone who needs Fixodent or more substantial undergarments.
Hippies hate Clinton by the way. Get it straight.
He was very anti-drug, specifically against cannabis, and many of his crappy policies are still in place today.
Is that because he didn’t inhale?
I don’t think anyone would describe Clinton as “honest” when it comes to his social activities….
Seriously, I know weed was probably cheap back then but everybody inhales, that’s the whole freakin point.
That’s like saying “I tried alcohol once, but I didn’t swallow.”
*insert jokes about spitting/swallowing here*
I’ve always suspected the truth was “Well, I tried to inhale and I hit it too hard, they tell me, because I ended up coughing until I puked on the guy who passed it to me….it put me off it completely, to be quite honest.”
PEELZ.
Que?
I wonder if those are like orange peels?
and 2 out of 3 of these men have ruined the country
So the fat guy ruined the country? Who’s the other one? The guy in the hat?
Definitely. Look at his face. If that isn’t regret, I don’t know what is….
no the two democrats in the front (wow i guess u really are a socialist)
No, they aren’t. We’ve a few socialists who occasionally post. These two are not socialists. Maybe you should find a better dictionary?
maybe u need your eyes checked because his name is Rando the SOCIALIST Secretary of State
He put that added label on because he was tired of folks like you equating liberal with socialist. Especially in the past week. I’ve been reading posts on this site off and on since October 2008, and I suspect my knowledge of Rando is a bit more firm than yours is.
move back to norway u viking
Wrong country…I was born in NJ, and my family descends from Denmark. And I’m a proud American because of the opportunities which coming to this country gave to my father.
You move back under the bridge first..
That’s not very nice Eddie, Bitter doesn’t want that under his bridge!
Oh for the love of God, it’s a fvcking joke. ROTFLMAO
Seriously, you conservatrolls take me too seriously. I appreciate it though. Do I like socialism? Yes. Do I think it’s practical for America? No. I’m not a moron. I know better than that. You can back off now, McCarthy.
One of these three men presided over the longest period of peace and economic growth of the century, another inherited the biggest Republican Great Depression since 1929.
I’m sorry, what was your point again?
DONT DO DRUGS was his point for you.
I’m sorry, moron, but what exactly are you getting at, besides that you are a worthless tool?
he said (for those of you hearing impaired) DON’T DO DRUGS!!!!
you worthless POS!
*point to Lame* Rando, you have yet another stalker troll of your very own. I’m a little jealous.
Yeah….how come I don’t get a stalker troll?
I’ll be your non-troll stalker, Diss, if you’ll have me.
Yay!
Now, wave to the giant high-zoom lens you -don’t- see across the street.
*waves*
I’m new here, diss, can I be your troll?
You’re not nearly inflammatory enough. When The Amazing Rando speaks his mind, conservatrolls go batshit. It’s very rewarding to see my influence on those who hate me. Very rewarding.
And that’s the only argument these neocon jerks have when presented with real life proof that they’re wrong. Eds, JAC, I’m sorry you guys have to deal with these lamers.
Yes, let it be known that while I looooooove pissing off conservatrolls that I have nothing but the utmost respect for our good conservatives. You know who you are.
Ruined? How unpatriotic of you! Anything wrong with the USA is fixable!
——
(sauce for the goose, and all that)
Affirmative Action Boy looks like he’s calling for a taxi–but none of them ever seem to stop.
Feel free to take your sick racism and shove up your ass, if there’s any room next to the gerbil. Make sure you keep your real bed sheets away from the ones you use to burn crosses, dipshit.
The guy in the back looks like Flounder from Animal House. And still more presidential looking than the other two !
So ‘Presidential’ means one step away from a massive heart attack?
Or like a massive frat-boy douche who’s steps away from a massive heart attack?
(bows head) We can only hope…..
Best advice ever? John Belushi to Flounder – ” I suggest you start drinking heavily!”.
Do you really want Biden, or Pelosi as president? Really?!?!
Don’t say scary things like that!
/whimpers and hides in her shrubbery
*tosses a few chocolate chip cookies in the shrubbery*
For TO and many others they don’t care who it is, as long as it’s not Obama.
It worked for GWB.
wow its so sad how you don’t even care about the country
OK, folks, it is official. thegoof59 is officially a koolaide drinker, who can’t see that one CAN be a patriot without being a neo-conservative.
@ thegoof529. STFUGTFOESADITOP ™, or if you prefer, lose the blinders and find a sense of humor before you post anymore.
well if biden becomes president im moving to a different country
Can you do that now? Why wait? Since you’re so fvcking miserable here you really should go.
Yeah, I thought Obama was the neocon’s Antichrist. Wouldn’t Biden be a step up to people like thegoof529? Wouldn’t Mao be a step up from Obama to them?
Because I made a joke about the joke who was before the current president I don’t care about the country? I don’t follow your lack of logic.
I could totally go for Biden as president. Oh, it’d be a horrible disaster, no doubt. But he’d be even more fun giving presidential speeches than Bush. The country would go to pieces, but it’d be FUNNY!
I…I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I mean, he Would be great fodder for the LOLs but, well, there’s still the fact that he would be president.
I was actually referring to you in my previous comment.
hmm, too bad we can’t use the red tie to identify the president who will destroy a country….
It’s ruin. Ruin. Get with the program already!
Obviously Cow is not drinking enough of the Kool-Aid.
I still want some beef jerky….
*hands DU some Sacred Cow Jerky*
It’s holy AND delicious.
Ruining something is urinating on it, destroying something is smashing it with a hammer afterwords.
Dammit, is that why the hammer I loaned you was returned smelling like piss? Gross.
This really is a lol! Clinton looks like a goof.
A goof? That goof gets more than you ever will, dude. Of course, my neutered cat gets more than you ever will too…
Gets more what? Cat food?
Yes…cat food. Suuuuuuuuure.
Cat Food? Is that what they’re calling it these days?
Where’s “Run ‘em down ” Joe Biden ?
Who cares?
He’s not a president, dipshit.
yeah, he is more of a vice-president dipshit. president dipshit is the other guy.
LOL!
Okay, I gotta admit, that one made me smile. You win this round, jim, but we’ll meet again!
*twirls his evil villain mustache while he disappears*
I don’t get it. I see a man with a red and white striped tie, a man with a red and white checkered tie, and a man with a maroon tie. And I see seven men. Is it saying if they were to wear a red tie? Cause the sude in the square chin and the hat could rock a tie. Is this a LOL?
sude= dude. in this case.
Is this a LOL? Sort of, more of lolame..
and the 3rd guy looks like Tommy Boy
Oh yeah, what number did you call?
234-5…niner…8…
You’re trailing off…and did I catch a “niner” in there? Were you calling from a walkie talkie?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.. Sixty niner.. Over.
Whoops.
I know. I keep doing that too.
We noticed.
Thanks, I appreciate you caring so much. I just wish I knew who you are so I could thank you properly.
You know who looks presidential wearing a red tie?
Your mom!
OOOOOH.. sick burn.
My moms dead! /cries
So that’s why she didn’t make any noise… Oooooo!
Damn it! Now I have to clean my monitor.. thanks heaps!
You’re welco- Oh…. you were being sarcastic…
Sicker burn.
what do you call a dead mother? (It doesnt matter, she wont come anyway.)
*holds DU ever so gently*
There there. It will be ok.
*cops feel*
Well..I guess I feel a little better…
We can make out too if you want. You know, just to help you feel better.
Woohoo! This is the best grief counseling ever!
I agree.
*makes out with DU*
Charro….I have a confession….My moms not really dead, I just said that to get sympathy. Can we still make out?
*balks*
Well, ok.. But you don’t have to trick me you know.
*stares intently eating popcorn*
Either this is the best late night “therapy” sessions ever, or this bag of “party” you gave me Charro is working f*cking magic!
Uh, yeah, uh, my entire extended family was killed in a plane crash. Parents, grandparents, cousins, yeah. Does this mean I get a grief counseling orgy?
I think that sounds like the only way to help through your loss. We may need to have multiple sessions to really help you work your grief out. I’ll bring my corset and spiky heels.
*looks around*
I’m gonna need a lot more popcorn…
*walks over and takes a look at charro’s eyes.”
Ok missy, I think you’ve had more than enough.. want to put the bag away now?
*scuffles toe into ground*
Awww.. Geez Eds. I was just getting this party started.. Right?
Well yeah, but you’ve had enough party for all of us!
I personally think I need about a quarter ounce more of party please… Thank you.
*hands bag to Max*
There, Eds. Are you happy?
*coughs heavily from the bathroom, smoke curls out from beneath the towel rolled up at the door*
So who’s the black guy?
he’s the socialist
Truly, thegoof, you have not seen a real socialist. Obama is merely a little bit liberal. I keep saying it, but you neocons just won’t listen. REAL socialism would make you pee your pants.
No- Obama’s a real Socialist. And you are a real annoying NeoComm.
Ever heard of America’s best contacts and eyeglasses? You need to.
You know, the more you protest my “annoying tantrums,” the more I want to do them. But seriously, have some balls and reveal yourself, you dirty smelly sock!
And peeing your pants is the COOLEST!!
see youth? Conservatives are teh cool now?
If peeing your pants is cool then call me Miles Davis!
Just for this I’m voting for “Fat guy in a red tie” for 2012!
With his running mate Fat guy in a little coat!
I can’t tell if the guy in the back with the hat on as a red tie on also.
I don’t see it. Where are the Presidential ones?
Yeah, there are 2. They’re on the left there….
…and it is not the perjurer, nor the animal on the right…
If you’re God, then I’m becoming an atheist right now.
Uh-oh…I think somebody just broke the 3rd Commandment.
Well, technically, he didn’t specify which god. He could be Odin, or Zeus, though I would wager more likely some lesser god no one remembers or cares about.