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I laughed.
Me two (!) Is your cable ok now?
Yes. I didn’t know last night, as it took 45 minutes on the phone to find out, that it wasn’t storm damage, but rather a planned outage to do an update. That’s Time Warner service for you.
Good to know all is OK. If it’s any consolation, ISP’s are just as bad here in UK!!
Not bad, but past “best by” date….
Are you kidding?! People were still doing Clinton LOLs well into Mr. Bush’s second term. The way I see it, at least it’s not a “hur hur Bush iz stoopidz” one.
Like most Hostess snacks, this LOL is still good well past the expiration date.
(http://mindlass.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/obama-national-anthem.jpg)
Please nobody get started on this.
Let’s as a community just let it go.
*looks up from face full of pizza*
Whut?
*eats charro’s pizza while she’s distracted*
*steals Rando’s soda*
-noms on a fat child- anyone want some? he’s cajun! extra spicy
Mmmm I would like some bitter baby.
-offers charro some of the soft juicey flank- extra spicy extra chewy
*noms* You’re a great cook bitter. <3
cook? no no sweet charro, this fat kid is raw
“Seasoner” just didn’t sound right.
LOL how cute! You still eat what the pundits feed you! It’s ok, maybe some day you’ll grow an opinion of your own. At any rate you kept it at least mildly relevant to the picture, so I’m going easy on you for now.
-Moments Later-
*facegrass*
comment win
I thought the Bushes were just checking their wallets were still there…
Dumbass comment. Thought Rumsfelt was GB senior. English, see.
It’s okay, Keithy. We American’s all look alike
Damn. You can read my tiny mind…
Keith you leave your tiny mind away from Ms. Wow.
Only my mind? Fine.
*blushes*
BTW Rumsfeld does look a bit like GB Sr.
And Henry Fonda, if you squint…
One point for you!
BTW if they had beefed up Richard Dreyfuss (sp?) a bit in The movie ‘W’ he really would have looked like Darth Cheney.
Yeah, I’m seein’ it!
Dreyfuss’ potrayal gave me very similar heebie-jeebies to those I get from the real Cheney. *shivers*
I kind of wonder if Dick Cheney watched it and was like, “Wait a second… how did those m-effin’ reporters get video of this?”
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It was that convincing to me.
Richard Dreyfuss as Darth Cheney: “This wasn’t a hunting accident!”
Wow, Cheney’s face even looks like he’s uncomfortable, like the hand was just reaching across his body to clutch his left arm…… woooooow
he’s actually reaching for his shoulder holster
WHOW you democrats better react fast! That’s a NICE comment about Bush! We can’t have that at all!!!
Come on Train…. every democrat knows Patriotism is a bad word. It’s much more cool to be unpatriotic..
**FLAME ON**
*fires flammer* die unpatriot scum! the assholes of america have been defiled too long! death to the canadians!
I too am surprised that there are not yet many Bush =/= Partriot comments. I suppose we have to give them more time…
I think it is just that we all feel like it’s unnecessary to say anything.
First time for everything
No, the Bush haters never take the high road and just “don’t say anything”. If taking the high road was in their bag of tricks we wouldn’t keep seeing the same Bush fails week after week after week. Come on guys he has been out of office for like a year already, time to focus our attention on the fail that is currently in office.
Who’s not in this picture since he refuses to cover his heart during the national anthem anyhow……
I wouldn’t either. Patriotism sucks. Be a world citizen.
*looks around puzzled*
but the world not have a flag, america does, how is bitter troll suppoest to salute flag?
Belgian flag?
MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2
And socilaest racest!
sooooo we salute socialism?
I been told to not salute, I knocks myself out. :/
Comprehend the ways of man and under a flag we salute or burn there is blood on both shores.
Wow, the conservatrolls have taken over. Fvck it, I’m outta here!
I felt that a few days ago. It’s a matter of the Mood of the Day. Today I find them amusing and exhilarating.
(So, don’t be outta here too long, please?)
Oh, hell, I couldn’t even stay away from this one.
Rando, did you know there is a Rando Imposter on the giant yellow rubber ducky LOL?
{http://punditkitchen.com/2009/11/11/political-pictures-inflatable-duck-japan-normal/#comment-266743}
Hey, at least they aren’t in your attic!
Bart Stupak?
*sigh* Please PLEASE stop putting words in peoples’ mouthes. All it does is make you look like a moron. Yes, there are some very vocal anti-Bush idiots, but they are few in number and are just loud. Don’t generalize so much. :/
Well he did sign the Patriot act, that must make him patriotic right?
I’m not saying he isn’t a patriot, I’m sure that’s why he signed the bill. Too bad he didn’t realize what he was signing, and why it’s anything but patriotic.
That said, I’m equally disappointed that the current administration didn’t repeal it completely.
2nd that.
3rd
Eleventyith.
69ish!
Oh…there’s no way to beat 69th
Oh well, if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em!
I’m surprised you thought they’d do anything constructive.
I don’t have time to talk with you, I’m busy not being a pessimistic tool.
What’s it like to always expect failure from everyone, all the time? Doesn’t it get old? How do you look forward to tomorrow.
I agree. Suicide is a viable option, Trainwreck.
And in this case, recommended.
Well, they guy’s name is trainwreckchaser. That seems like a huge step up from ambulance chaser.
Oh bah… the guy’s*
Hooray for being at work too early!
STFUGTFOESADITOP ™.
I still like the whole looking at your library record thing. Most libraries don’t keep records back that far and what do they expect to find anyways? “Ah, I see you’ve been reading ‘Terrorism for dummies’ ‘The complete idiots guide to being a radical islamist’ ‘Teach yourself to fly planes into buildings’ and ‘The poky little puppy’”
That was my favourite book as a child.
I leave it up to the reader to decide which one.
Well, there ARE those who say that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel….
I thought that was the Maldives?
Not the Côte d’azur?
“To be with another woman, that is French. To be caught, that is American.”
Hmmm….do they extradite?
I think it’s negotiable.
Depends on the age of said woman
As has been said in other terms – depends on what you read into “patriotism”. :p
Rumsfeld, GWB, and Cheney could teach Obama a thing or two about respect for the flag. We’ll start with the simple things first.
Here Here!!
There! There!
where wolf?
there wolf!
bare wolf? Yeah I shaved it.
eeeeeeew. that’s gonna itch when it grows back in. and fyi, it didn’t make it look bigger.
Whatever, that trick totally works.
that’s just what the girls tell you… but haven’t you heard? we all lie.
“It’s ok it happens to everyone.”
“We can just cuddle.”
“that was the best i’ve ever had!”
(i know diss has got a few good lies to throw in here!)
“Too fast? I didn’t notice.”
and of course the classic:
“I’ll call you!”
No, not all, those jeans don’t make you look fat honey.
Yes dear, I heard every word you said.
“Of course I don’t think she’s prettier than you!”
“no, it’s ok if you go out with the guys tonight. it’s fine.”
(an fyi guys, any time the word “fine” is used… you fvcked up. big time.)
Of course my mother likes you.
Shortright, were you spying on me last night?
I’ve actually had amazing luck saying
“Shouldn’t have said it was fine than.”
I tend to ginore it. If you said it was fine, it was fine. Similar to ADM, however I take it a further step, “I’m not a mind reader you know. Just tell me what you want. If I don’t know how can I give it to you.”
9 times out of 10 when we say something is “fine” what we mean is that in an ideal world we would prefer that you wanted to do X, however, you want to do Y instead, and ultimately we’d prefer you do Y than do X and be all pissy about it because it’s not what you want to do.
And that 1 time out of 10 when it’s ok, we won’t do it, then hold it over your head that we missed out, and you still end up pissy. Be honest, STOP passive agressive shite, and tell us what you want. The world will be a much happier place.
What we don’t want is you guys sitting home being all annoyed and feeling trapped and sitting there glaring at the tv. Passive aggressive goes both ways, you know. There’s really no right answer for us, either.
By the way, during the conversation last night, I did say that what I would like is to be able to plan for such occasions so I don’t find out 1) while I’m cooking dinner and 2) too late for me to go out and do something I want to do.
diss – i wasn’t spying i swear. it’s just the last 3 weekends the boy has been out of town and told me about it on like a 2 days notice. gee, thanks… not like i wanted to see you either.
Sounds like your boys need better training!
But I’ve had mine for…*pause for higher math*…23 years.
“Course I’m leaving town next week and abandoning my boys here. Victoria, here we (me, Mom & sis) come!
It’s a learning curve, Mabsba.
Like I told him, I’m fine with him having beers out with his buds, guys need guy time….just lemme KNOW, so I’m not stuck with nothing to do myself (in the present case, if I’d known ONE hour earlier, that would have made all the difference…)
Well, ILPB, in all honesty, once the situation comes up it’s a lose lose. I lose, and I’ll be pissy. Or you’ll lose and you’ll be pissy.
I just gave up caring, that seems to work well.
I grew up with passive aggressive, and try to avoid it like hamthrax (thanks to whoever came up with that one!).
But I TOTALLY agree that advance notice is required before taking off with the boys. There’s the dinner thing (respect for the cook!), and then there is also the your-partner-could-plan-something-fun-too thing. As in, respect for your partner as a human being.
Yup. In all fairness, we’re still getting used to the living together thing, it’s only been 5 months, and only about 6 weeks since he started this job– before, he was getting off work about 11 and coming home, now he’s finishing earlier and he quite honestly admits it’s taking a little getting used to for him remembering that when you have somebody at home, it’s expected you let them know you’re running late, etc.
I’m having to remember the same thing. I think as long as we talk instead of getting pissy, we’re doing ok. I will admit to being a little sulky last night, but not in a passive aggressive way.
“Five months”? Okay, training is progressing fine for five months. You all have just started the curve.
Now I have to go put my flowers in water (20+ years of training pays off!).
PS: Free advice is usually worth what you pay for it, but I have always found that turnabout is fair play. E.g., when first together, my husband would notice, verbally or otherwise, other women. He stopped in a hurry when I started doing the same with guys. Now we both follow the Jay Leno approved method of wearing sunglasses — you just follow with your eyes, not your head. Leno calls it ‘the married guy looking.’ Although, very honestly, I can’t see the point in looking at anyone else.
Looking is fine–just no touching! I enjoy admiring the scenery, of all flavors, actually… And I’ve occasionally quietly pointed out an attractive lady for the BF. –he was trained so well by his mother, that that still kind of surprises him.
Just the other night I was at a friends house when he said something about someone being damn hot. His wife immediately snaps at him “What did I just tell you? Use your inside voice!” The rest of us all thought for a minute he was going to get berated for saying someone other than his wife was hot. Nope she was fine with part.
Wow. I would never correct my spouse in front of other people. That’s treating him like a child.
But the whole commenting thing is *me*. I don’t care for it, therefore *my* husband shouldn’t do it. Especially since he doesn’t like it. (Sort of like those men who call women ‘girls,’ but don’t want to be called ‘boys.’ Give me a break.)
“objects in mirror are larger than they appear”
why do you think we stand near mirrors?
“It’s a good size”
It doesn’t happen often, but my favorite compliment I ever got was “Now I know why you’re so cocky!”
Didn’t we discuss in an earlier lol?
Where?
I assume you mean along the lines of what not to do, no?
Truth be told, I can’t think of any national politician on either side of the aisle who sees the flag as anything other than a photo-op.
Wow, intelligent comments are popping up left and right on PK today. Did someone divide by zero?
Justa, no!!!!!! Don’t even suggest it!
I’m missing something? Obama been burning flags or something?
No he uses flags as diapers in his sex games with Oprah and Michelle.
o_O
I threw up in my mouth. *heaves*
Some one who knows this html stuff tell me how to do the smiley that they have on Yahoo. You know, it blinks twice, turns green, then barfs.
Everyone else just pretend that’s what you see here.
You are a sick, sick puppy to even have that though go through your head.
The really big ones like on top of buildings? Or the really small ones, like you see lining parade routes? Enquiring minds. =-D
Obama uses the medium ones that hang oustide people’s houses on the 4th of July or igth after a terrorist attack (you know when we’re feeling Patriotic). Michelle makes a bikini out of the smaller hand waving ones. And well DUH Oprah uses the ones hanging outside of Stdiums and such, and it still barely fits.
{http://www.discoverourtown.com/NC/Gastonia/Attractions/43722.html}
This is up the road from me. It’s awesome. I have pictures of me and my kids at the base. When the wind whips the flag, it sounds like distant thunder.
Michelle Malkin in a bikini. Now I’ll have nightmares. All this diaper talk was inspired by David Vitter, no doubt.
Whats this about Oprah hanging outside of the stadium? Darn, we missed it. Let me know if they plan to do anything with Larry King. I’d take off of work for that..
No, he makes a point of not saluting or putting his hand over his heart. Passive aggressive.
Cites, please.
I’ve seen it on tv, and there was an instance recently. But its not like its a secret. He’s been criticized for it before, and the Dems have defended him.
Don’t know if it’s some reoccurring conspiracy plot like you seem to think, but I for one am proud to imagine a president being more of a representative to the world instead of a patriotic puppet.
You’ve seen on TV that he makes a point of it? Did he say “I don’t do this because of my principles”? And where is it “not a secret”?
q: I’m missing something? Obama been burning flags or something?
a: No, he makes a point of not saluting or putting his hand over his heart. Passive aggressive.
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o}
That’s on one occasion. I am still wondering how you can confirm that he is “making a point of not saluting or putting his hand over his heart”?
“Why Not” asked a question, I told him what was up. I found that one for you.
And if you had said “there is one example of obama not putting his hand over his heart while the national anthem is being played”, I wouldn’t have asked anything further, but you made a completely different claim.
Sorry for being such a PITA by actually reading what you write and taking an interest. :p
Well, in general, having heard of the issue, you will come across other instances and convince yourself. You weren’t a PITA. He does a lot of passive aggressive things, the first time you see it, it seems accidental or possible that he is not aware he is doing it. But then he’ll get caught doing it again. Its something you have to find and convince yourself of….
Only if I see a reason to start investigating. This particular flag incident is quite old news, I’ve seen it and read about it at least three times before, so I was interested in if there were any other instances of similar behaviour, or even more importantly, anything that actually has been said or points to the claim of the “making a point of”-thing. Because that did sound rather intriguing.
Get over yourself Jim, it’s a fvcking flag. It’s not like he’s going on TV and flipping off the populace. Since when is it more important to “respect” symbols than it is to just do your goddamn job!? This whole “patriotism” thing is completely out of control. Learn to get your damn priorities straight!
No1askedme:
“It’s not like he’s going on TV and flipping off the populace.”
Well, actually, he has done that too on a couple of opportune occasions:
{http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/obama-mccain-finger/2045}
*facepalm*
That’s not definitive proof. That’s just wildly speculating.
Somebody told me one time that it didnt mean anything, it was nothing. So, I took the opportunity to do the same thing Obama is doing and tell him “you’re right, its nothing.” He got the idea.
All this face palming cant be good for you.
That run on sentence made no sense.
Charro, I flipped him off by pretending to scratch my face with my middle finger, while I told him that he was right, it was nothing.
There was a joke that I heard years ago, and the punch line was to take your finger and pull down the lower lid of your eye. And after that, if we wanted to say flock you without actually saying it, we’d look at the other guy and pull down the lower lid. It was amusing. 15 or 16 Years later I was arguing with a Mormon friend and did this, and he recognized it, he knew the joke. He was the only person, outside of my high school friends, who ever acknowledged recognizing it.
I know a number of people who use their middle finger to scratch their face…I’ve checked to see what they appeared to be flipping off. The things they are pointing the finger at are rather innocuous. Unless maybe they have a severe dislike of walls….
You’re right, its probably nothing..*scratches face* Man, I got something in my eye….
*Wonders why Jim is giving the finger to that vase of flowers on the table*
Good grief, given that woman’s utter and complete slaughter of the national anthem, I’m surprised they didn’t all have their hands over their ears.
Not that this is relevant. Just a comment.
Oh o pay me to sing…
Oh WTFever. I don’t even want to hear that crap about Obama being unpatriotic (even though I don’t give a crap about patriotism). Unpatriotic people don’t take on the presidency. I don’t get why anyone would want to bother with it if they don’t actually like America.
Uh, to reform it in a image of their own creation.
Of, by and for oil industry?
–sorry, couldn’t resist the opening!
Or whatever the current administration is sucked up too.
Great response. Now you’re learning Boy’O! (Bet you can’t guess that movie.)
Probably not. My movie-going years were mostly from 1975-1990. Then the hand-held cameras and computer effects made me too motion-sick. I have to wait for the video…and mostly don’t care by then!
Ok. Though you might have seen this one. It was made in 1989. Glory, with Mathew Broderick. It was the story of the 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry, the first official black Army unit. (Though there were units in the Revolutionary war, just not official.)
I highly recommend it. It’s not perfect, historically, but it’s close enough to make you dig for truth.
That was a great movie.
I like to watch it, either just before, or just after Gods and Generals.
Hmmm, hmmmm. Hmmm, hmmmmm. Oh my Lord, Lord, Lord.
and how to shoot people in the face, then they apologize to you!
Isn’t this a repost? I could swear I’ve seen this before.
Well, you got one out of three right…
None of them look all that interested. Just going through the motions. Either way, patriotism is dead. Be a world citizen.
Because the rest of the world cares about people from the U.S right?
Sure they do. Its just right now they hate us because of what we have done to the planet. Doesn’t make us any less world citizens.
What we have done? So no other nation produces green house gasses?
No other nation goes to war? Look the idea of a “world citizen” is nobel, it really is, but it won’t happen, and it isn’t America’s fault. There are long standing feuds that nations have had since before we were even a country, and they’ll probably have them once our power fades.
You can be patriotic if you want to. Go for it. It’s just old fashioned to the point of being archaic. I am a world citizen. The reason “it” won’t happen is because Americans have this foolish notion that they are alone in the cosmos, and everyone else might as well be considered cattle. They are there for our use. It’s wrong, and it’s going to end badly if we don’t wake up and see we are all in this together.
And what have we done? I would just call it US Imperialism. Not with kings and soldiers and guns, but with corporations, and money, and bureaucracy. We have created and maintained 3rd world countries, we have used money speculation to make sure others don’t get ahead. We have abused them for labor and resources; we have polluted their land for our financial gain. We have started civil wars by carving up pieces of their land. We have given groups money and arms when it fit our needs and then turned our back on them when it didn’t suit our best interest. But that’s just a few of the things.
Nobody’s perfect.
I’m not denying any of that, but I think it’s just as “archaic” to assume we’re the only ones.
I may be silly thinking we’re not bad, but you’re just as silly thinking we’re the only one’s that are, and until EVERYONES (not just ours) minds changes it’s just a nice dream.
The revolution starts at home
I agree with StB on this one. We are not all bad, and we aren’t the only country that is doing bad. But we can only start with us. We have to be willing to make the change.
Why am I hearing “Man in the Mirror” playing in my head?
That’s funny. I’m hearing Ben Lee’s “We’re All In This Together.”
Or Nine Inch Nails “We’re In This Together Now”
Heh. And I was hearing Lennon’s “Imagine.”
Hmmm. I was hear NIN Closer… LOL
I keep hearing Nickelback. Can you hand me something sharp and stabby? I have to make this stop.
*hands Rando her boot knife*
When can we go to Jack in the Box?
In about five minutes, probably never. How sharp is this thing?
Ooooh.. Rando be careful. It’s razor sharp.
I was hearing “Es ist ein Ros entsprungen”. But that was because it was just on my stereo. :p
And a beautiful song it is!
That, and “Good king Wenceslas” are my favourite Christmas tunes for their sheer medievalness.
That and ‘oh come, oh come Emmanuel’ are mine! But then I love a good melody!
I love christmas songs. I don’t know why it is but most of them are really easy/fun to play on the harp. Silent Night and Oh come oh come Emmanuel are probably my favorites to sing though. Oh, and Carol of the Bells/Ukrainian Bell Carol!
Oh, so NOW you’re harping on Christmas songs! Can’t you people ever be happy?!
Jim… step 1. Bend over
2. Remove stick from rear end.
Are you…are you propositioning me? *scandalized*
Ah. You didnt get it – harping – harping on Christmas songs. * For Pete’s sake, you have to explain EVERYTHING to these people. Disapprovingly nods.*
Sorry, but when you come off as a condescending know it all prick 90% of the time, it makes it rough for everyone else who’s not as holy as thou to see that you’re joking.
You do Not harp on christmas songs! You christmas songs on harp!
For Pete’s sake, you have to explain EVERYTHING to these people.
As long as you’re a world citizen, is it okay if I enslave you now? I want your avatar.
You know, there’s plenty of countries out there that are far more destructive to the environment, if that’s what you’re getting at, VNV. China, for example.
That’s not what I am getting at. Environmental concerns are only a small portion of what we as a people have contributed to the world society. See my other response.
Gotcha. I was taking “done to the planet” the wrong way.
Its cool. Luv you still!
You have a dirty, dirty mind Diss. I would never think about doing mother earth…well, she’s not MY mother…so maybe after a couple beers.
She does have a hot motlen center, and ample mounds….ok, I see your point. I’d hit it.
Lol…The Steve, I was not even going anywhere near that! You clearly have an even dirtier mind than I do.
Is that a compliment?
Yes.
Niiice
I’m incredibly turned on now..
Whew! Good thing the BF is coming over tomorrow!
Of course. Most people I know do, at least. Do you think the rest of the world doesn’t?
hear hear. just keep the drugs away from bush, we dont exactly know what he will do with them but we know it will be bad…
i don’t care what he does with them, i’m more concerned with what he does while on them
…..Today.
We Democrats are patriotic too. Just two days ago we showed how much we love personal freedom, the first amendment, and defiance of conservative authority. We lit a bonfire of marijuana and burned the American flag, all on top of the grave of a soldier who died in Vietnam. Vote for me in 2012, and yes we can do this more often than Veteran’s Day, Memorial Day, and July 4th.
I can’t believe you had a marijuana bon fire. Have you no decency man?!? What a terrible waste. And I thought you were eco-friendly.
Thats drug abuse.
Unless that bonfire was in a stadium, and old VW van, willie nelson’s barn, a wigwam, …or some other enclosed space, I cannot condone that sort of behavior.
Also, I’m a bit concerned that the burning flag could ruin the flavor of an otherwise perfectly good fire….
Yeah, those are mostly polyester now aren’t they? What an awful taste.
Pretty sure burning polyester is toxic too… That’s no good!
How is Richard Cheney not a patriot?
He has devoted his life to serving his country. He has made over 100 million dollars supplying our soldiers via Haliburton. Whereas the average soldier makes, what, 30k dollars?
Work it out and do the math. That means Richard Cheney is three THOUSAND times the patriot compared of the average American serviceman… and how does that compare to you… the pinhead moron who posts on PK?
This makes an enormous amount of sense to me.
@ Sqwirk
Of course! How could I not see it before! Obviously since I haven’t sold my life to the government I hate America! How could I have been so blind!? Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. *massive sarcasm intended to be a insulting as possible*
@Sqwirk. That was worthy of the great Colber Repor!
*bows in admiration*
I see real sarcasm 0o
Actually? No. I admire the logic tree you built up there!
I believe it’s spelled C-O-L-B-E-R-[Silent T]
Seems strange that Cheney was so popular with the troops.
They all think that if they work hard, then can make 100 million. Shame really. How many homeless vets do we have?
Yeah pet care industry has really taken a beating!! **puts on asshat and dnaces around the room**
hehe. that’s actually pretty funny. props. -this time-
It just breaks my heart when I see them standing at the intersection, dispiritedly holding a cardboard sign that says “Will spay or neuter for food”.
We don’t need vets.
All we need is a man with a shotgun and the balls to pull the trigger.
I’m calling PETA!!!
People for Eating Tasty Animals?
You rang?
Do you deliver?
Oh baby, do I!
Ahahahaa!! Nice one.
Yes, that’s what my wife says too.
Yeah JAC she’s told me the same thing. **ZING**
Your wife tells you the same thing? Cool. But then again, you were telling us earlier how she lies to pacify you. :p
She’s told me something completely different about both of you.
Well, if you pull out what we have, I don’t doubt she said something different.
*confused*
Something about pulling out? That’s never fun.
Do you want duck sauce or bbq sauce?
Both. I’m having both the Bald Eagle and the Sumatran Tiger.
You do relaize you still need to pluck the bald eagle’s head, even though it’s called the bald eagle. And di you name it George Castanza as well?
WHAT???!!! What kind of DIY operation is this??
No, I named the eagle Stephen Jr.
*giggles* Now I want to see someone dancing around while wearing a hat that says asshat!
Bush too:
Marines React to Bush vs. Marines React to Obama.
{http://rightwingvideo.com/?p=837}
Actually, Rumsfeld too.
I’m telling you this for your own good: citing from a site called “rightwingvideo.com” will get you deep fried on this site. Cite from a real source or don’t cite at all.
Yeah, that’s almost as bad as citing from MSNBC’s website.
You were right before, the conservatives are taking over. Picture Donald Sutherland in Invasion of the Pod People or Charles Heston in the Omega man. We’ll be everyone.
Funny, I don’t think the picture is at all saying he’s not a patriot. Just having a fifth heart attack at an inopportune time.
But you seem a bit sensitive.. You ok?
In my opinion, Bush not a patriot by any definition of the word. His respect for key values of this country such as freedom of speech doesn’t exist, and he has done more harm to the international reputation of the US than anyone I know of who is generally considered anti-american. However, that doesn’t mean that this picture isn’t still funny.
On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being absolute metaphysical certitude, you are 10 wrong.
Sorry Jim, Bush was not the perfect president. I liked some personal aspects of the guy, and thought he meant well, but compromised principals he claimed to believe many times. I do think some of that was forced by world events, but isn’t a president supposed to be able to stand alone? The only thing he stood strong on was Iraq.
Yeah, I saw your comments about the Patriot act. But I agree with Lincoln and FDR that the constitution is not a suicide pact.
It isn’t a stupidity pact either.
I think it would be pretty stupid to allow terrorists to communicate with associates in this country without giving the country the ability to track them. Fort Hood is an example of this.
There were ways he could have done the very same thing, without the “Patriot” act.
The reason they passed the Patriot act was problems they were having accomplishing it by following landline vs cellphone vs wireless phone technology. The laws were different and were preventing things we would have been able to do during WWII
Even if what you said was 100% true, that doesn’t even begin to cover everything in the Patriot act.
Those things could have been done without a big govt power grab.
Eventually I think they will have to bring the internet under control.
Which is contrary to everything the Founding Fathers thought, wrote, or believed could happen in America.
Yes! First Amendment FTW.
*clings to her religion, guns, and internetz*
They never would have permitted children to be exposed to what is appearing on the internet. They would have been horrified.
Parents’ job. Same as what’s on tv, and what’s appropriate to say at the dinner table.
I don’t expect or want my government to raise my kids for me, and I don’t want them nannying me, either.
Jim, you don’t think people were doing nasty things in the 1700’s? They were. And you have to make the personal choice to avoid these things. Not govt power, to avoid them. What you are proposing is not that different than the Caliphate the muslims propose.
And I think I recall that you are a person of Christian faith, correct? Then you should know that people are going to do what they have in them to do. You can speak up, speak out, speak your mind. But I would think that you would know that the law makes nothing perfect. All the laws and principals put together cannot force a man to do anything. It’s a personal choice.
That sir, is what the Founding Fathers knew. Prohibition should have been a good reminder. Doesn’t make the bad behavior any less bad, but so long as it’s not forced on you, or against you, leave them alone.
I highly recommend you look up where Paul said he became all things to all men.
Diss – to use an extreme example: what if your child could go into a store and buy a handgun or booze? I dont believe in the nanny state either, but society does have an interest in the control of certain things.
With a fake ID, I suppose they could. While with guns, especially, I recognize (and don’t really resent) the state’s interest in protecting the public from immaturity, I think it’s my job to keep ‘em from doing that anyway.
In the 1700’s a lot of families lived in single room apartments or houses. A lot of kids got to see their younger siblings being conceived…and their nieces and nephews as well. 12 year olds could sign themselves to apprenticeship…or be signed up against their will. Kids in England could be sentenced to indentured servitude (sentence of slavery for a period of some years) for having stolen a loaf of bread to eat. It was not an innocent, magical time for children, by any means.
Don’t forget the family outings! Hangings of criminals were popular social events.
It seems the family is running this way and that all the time now. Joey has a soccer game, Janie has revolutionary rallys, Mom and Dad are both working. Its good to take some quality time and attend a hanging together. It makes us feel like a family again.
Why?
Because people are SCARED?
So you would trade freedom for safety?
I would prefer to live free and accept the risks and dangers associated with that freedom than have my freedom taken away under the guise of “protecting” me.
I get drug tested at work so my employer can say he “protected” from my fellow employees who may otherwise harm me while under the influence of drugs. In order for me to gain my employers “protection” I had to give up my privacy and surrender my 4th amendment rights.
I personally would rather take my chances, and keep my freedom and privacy in tact.
Here, here!!
Where, where?!
A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it away.-Ben Franklin
they that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty.
~ben franklin
Bad Fairie, I’m impressed. Now we need only to apply that.
Well, you aren’t required to work there. You can get a job elsewhere. To my knowledge they aren’t even going to turn you in if your test results come up positive, they simply won’t hire you. If I owned a business I wouldn’t hire anyone who was on any drug other than pot and I would expect them to show up sober for work as well.
Who are the “they” who you think eventually must do that?
(PS: Feck that!)
The federal government.
And how would they be able to bring the Internet under control?
How do you think a tax on internet services would be enforced? The federal government passes a law, a few disregard it, the government finds someone to make an example of – and does, and there you go, compliance. Telephone companies dont act in a vacuum.
And how would one nation’s government control the Internet?
*crickets*
“They” couldn’t control the whole internet, clearly, but it’s a significant threat in an individual country; see, e.g., China.
Oh yeah – a nation can work hard on making sure its citizens have limited rights to partake of the Internet. But that’s a very different thing.
And stupid. Also, thanks to daylight wasting time, I thought this thread took place two hours ago. Now I know better.
Aah. The time is too far off for me to bother thinking about it – I just look at the time stamp here in relation to other posts.
Well, usually I do too.. It’s my day off. I don’t really care.
Wait.. I’m confused. Isn’t “jim” a conservative? Aren’t they supposed to believe in LESS government? How the hell is “regulating the INTERNET” less government?
Dude, jim, you’re completely insane. Wait, I have to know? Is this something you WANT or just something you think would happen?
Especially in the control of Charro.
I’m ok with having control over the whole internet.
Vote for me as supreme dicktator of the internet!
Are you serious?!
It’s all right Rando. I’m in charge now.
Hey charro? How does my internet Dick Tate?
*snickers*
It tates like snickers.
True. True.
cougar whacker
hmmmmmmm
bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
People complain about Bush’s patriotism. At least he thinks he is a patriot, he tried to do his best. I didn’t work at all, but we can’t deny he wanted it to work. Just because he coudn’t do better, people shoudn’t say he wanted it to go wrong. He is american after all.
Oh I don’t think he tried anything. I certainly lied to the public, took away from personal freedoms, and invaded a country under false pretenses. I don’t think that’s a “whoops” moment, but more of a “whatcha gonna do about it?” moment.
Opinions are like cabbage.
Just because you don’t like what he did doesn’t mean he’s ebil.
It’s like calling Universal Health Care socialist just because one doesn’t like it.
Calling someone evil and saying he lied to the country to start a phony war is different. As I have previously stated, I do not believe in evil, but I do believe in bad.
But he did not lie to the country, and it was not a phony war. The country’s mistake was not instituting a general draft, both men and women.
I think you must have been asleep since 9/11 dude. That cat has been let out of the bag.
Shhhhh. Stop confusing people with actual facts, VNV.
Truth can be a disturbing thing for someone with their head in the ground.
Even truth is filled with lies.
I doubt than angels still fall to walk among the living.
than=that
Geez…
It seems I came to leave.
That “I” was may to be an “It”, which should have been a “he”. I am not yet at the level of power required to do any of these things…yet.
I’ve got some great organic blueberry creme coffee. Here, have a mug!
Organic blueberry creme coffee?!?!?!!?
Organic coffee, flavored with organic blueberry and creme.
i think this might shed some light on his attitude towards how he conducted his job:
“If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”
—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
And a perfect example of why we need to limit big government. No matter who is in power.
“A tyrant has a much harder job than a ruler raised to power by some idiot ‘vote-yourself-rich’ system like democracy. At least They could tell the people he was their fault”
That would all depend on which power the ruler was raised to.
Hey! Funny!
poor dick
Patriotism is something that lives in your heart, not a competition with your neighbour to see who has the bigger yard flagpole or cries the most tears or stands at attention the longest. You carry your country in your heart. Excessive flag waving makes me wonder, who is the person trying to convince, me or themselves?
Analytical criticism of one’s country is not unpatriotic – it’s a way of bringing to attention that perhaps we can always improve and become even better. To quote Edmund Burke: “‘To make us love our country, our country ought to be lovely.”
to quote Lt. Gen. Harry Kinnard: “Nuts.”
I never comment here, but this was hilarious.
“I never comment here”
You are obviously a liar. You’ll fit right in! Keep commenting!
I do believe in less government, and government conducted at the most local level. Its the most representative of all govenment and it is the one we have the most influence over. But government at the local level, because it reflects its citizens, can be very restrictive or very loose. Take for example, local gun laws.
The more representative a government becomes, the more useless and corrupt it becomes as well. Governing becomes more about pleasing the people and winning votes than about doing what’s good for the country. Since citizens can never agree on anything, all issues just end in a gridlock and nothing gets done. Need proof? Look at congress.
But really. Regulating the internet? What exactly should we be regulating?
how many times you can sock your picks on the front page before prison rape?
Citizens.
LEARN FROM CHINA.
how to eat with lil sticks?
And how to have Pretty Small Feet!
how to make lead based toys?
But, I don’t speak Chinese.
watch more firefly, someday it will all be like that!
Mmmm…Firefly. Do I have to stand in the geek corner if I confess that we bought that for my son? And watched it with him.
From what I can tell the geek corner is getting rather crowded around here. They might have to expand the room just so they can fit more of the regulars into the corner!
I love that show. Nathan Fillion is WAY HOT.
mmmmm captain hammer!
Yeah, I had a friend who was from China and he had to go back because his visa expired, and he can’t even use facebook anymore.
I think ultimately they will regulate, dare I say it, porn.
That doesn’t answer the question.
It doesnt?
No.
?
Ha! Cant get smaller than that….
That’s what SHE said!
(Sorry. Really could not resist. I tried, for seconds. SECONDS, I TELL YOU!)
LOL nice one Danbala.
*shakes head*
Whatever drugs you’re on.. It’s rude to not share.
I’m high on clean livin’ and church goin’.
I hope you’re not from the East Coast, this would be awful if we knew each other from work.
Nope. From the southwest. Currently in the midwest.
All that clean livin’ can’t be good for your immune system.
THAT’s my problem. Darn! So if I had done drugs, I wouldn’t have asthma? Oh well, too late. I’m a square…
You’d be surprised how healthy you’ll be after picking up a meth habit.
so your high off of your own dillusions?
More like that Dr. Pepper “I’m a Pepper, you’re a Pepper” guy with the white socks from the 70s.
but hes dead…your saying your dead too?
He’s dead?! The guy from American Werewolf in London? THAT wouldn’t make me want to be a Pepper. Well, if that peters out, I’d like to teach the world to sing too.
Or will they regulate their citizens’ access to porn?
no no just the porn itself…goverment safty team on each shoot makeing sure the giant plastic fun bags dont smack the guy in the face to hard
Oh! Yeah. Good thing all porn is made in the US then.
cept german poop porn..and that japan fish stuff, and all the other weird stuff that comes out of japan like animated child porn
But then they can not REGULATE THE PR0N! YOU ARE TEH LIAR! YOU MUST BE!!111!11!
I love German porn.
SOOOOOO WEIRD.
Often good for comedy but not for porn purposes. ;p
Yeah, I agree with that statement.
I am the only one who gets to block internet sites on my child’s computer! And people like you remind me why I’m tempted to do so….
:
**hmmm?**
Sorry, and my husband, aka, the dad.
Yeah, you’re the only one who has figured out how to parent their own child instead of relying on the government to do it.
Um, joke, yes?
You don’t like being the only one that can do this?
I was being sarcastic.
Jim, apparently, doesn’t have faith in the parents of this country. If anything needs regulating.. It’s breeding.
you need to license to drive, to fish, to cut hair, to be a plumber ( bitter troll is looking at you joe)
any asshat can have a child and ruin its life.
Thanks Keanu.
whoa…EXCELLENT!
I know Kung Fu.
yeah…well…im taller
Wildcat.
now bitter troll’s favorit keanu line from speed 2: …….no thank you
Keanu wasn’t in Speed 2.
bitter troll knows…hence the line was blank and him saying no thank you. you didnt get the joke!-cries bitter bitter tears-
No.. I didn’t. I’m sorry bitter love.
Unbatu? I’m going to learn… Unbatu?
Well, I thought maybe you thought I was replying to you.
Probably the migraine drugs affecting comprehension.
I’m pretty sure other people can do this, but can and do are two different worlds.
It always amazes me that you need a license to own a dog, but a kid….
I know!
like some people collect them like pokemon !
we are looking at you angelina!
I’d breastfeed at that table any day though.
I’d breast-<plenty of stuff>, but probably not -feed.
mmmmm milk it does a bitter troll good
You need a license to own a dog? That’s a step in the right direction, at least. (But surely not in all states?)
Hmm.. No but your dog has to be licensed if you want to take it outside. Ever.
Oh, right, yes. We’ve had that, too.
Animal control is a very local government issue, so it actually is town by town or county by county. THe bigger the town, the more animal ordinances they usually have. Our animal ordinance was just updated in an attempt to decrease the 15,000 animals euthanized annually.
We do our part — replaced the old cat with black cat number four, rescued from a shelter.
Yay for the happy new cat!!!
*prrrr*
Having to sit a test showing one knows the basics for the care of the animal one wants to have should be mandatory all over the world.
To be allowed to let any animal in your care breed, you should have a purpose and also already have a plan for the offspring and where it goes.
And yay for taking shelter cats – seems clever.
Yes — already fixed, vet checked, shots and licensed for a year — for $10 (that’s just ‘cuz the hubs is 50+, but regular price was ony $30). A great deal.
But you know (this was several lols back) we went back to the segregated, all black household and we’re still having conflicts! Apparently race is NOT the only source of conflict!
New boy was hissing at my girl this morning — sexist!!!
For NOW, you’re the only one. But we’re watching you. Waiting. Listening in on your phone calls. Peering into your web browser. Checking your email. Waiting. Waiting patiently. Very patiently.
And could you turn on ESPN for awhile? We hate the Lifetime channel.
Well, that’s insultin’ as all git out. *fires shotgun into attic*
Lifetime!
*while out on a walk hears someone in the house shes walking past shout with indignation”Lifetime!” immediately followed by what she assumes must be a car backfiring and someone from the direction of the attic yelling “Ow! My leg! My leg!”*
Come a little closer with your violations of my constitutional rights and I’ll help you understand the one granted by the second amendment.
*Opens the attic door, trying to remember what the 2nd amendment was….*
I would kinda like that on a bumper sticker.
Actually, either one would be amusing!
Okay, but who’s going to help me with the rats in my attic?
*offers new front door sign: You keep your first amendment rights to yourself and I’ll keep my second amendment rights to myself*
*whips out flamethrower*
Got a rat problem here?
Love that! So much I just posted it on FB! WTG!
Hey! I expect royalties! *cookies and rat control assistance are both acceptable*
You are definitely invited to my next Carolina Country BBQ. I just got this Savage 220a 12 gage, and it’s a classic. It was a Navy training gun in WWII, used to teach gunners how to lead a target. A great Skeet/Trap gun.
We can practice both Amendments!
People like jim?! When the hell did this happen?!
cloneing
Curse technology and its growing .. growth.
its growing, swelling, throbbing…
About to break..
cant holdon much longer…stay on target
One you shop at target.
Don’t look at me, I only clone myself and hawt wimmenz like my Janie!
It’d have to be, right? How’d he find *my* house?
Stupid google earth.
**stomps off to buy more ammo**
But local government is usually not very representative b\c almost no one votes in local elections, or knows what is going on if they do vote in local elections. Those who can get more friends to vote are those who win.
Which is why local politics and politicians are often more corrupt than any other flavor…just a smaller toybox to play with, is all!
And that my friends, is why we need to get out and vote. The locals, especially incumbents, know how little the people care. And people shy away from the national votes, as they think they can’t have much of an effect.
Take politics back to the states and local levels, make it so that the people who want change are inspired to vote on the things that run out lives.
Huh, lookie that. When you check the notify box it gives you some sort of subscription service that brings you right back to this blog. I’ll have to remember to quash that when me and people like me, good people, gain complete control of the internet.
That will never happen.
Well, of course not, I’m just kidding.
* continues plotting *
“some sort of subscription service”
Yeah, really worried about people who can’t comprehend linking back to the originating site.
You can bet their left hands have fingers crossed.