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We’ve decided to have a child, and start the apocalypse early
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She’s definitely hot!
I think David Hasselhoff had a song about him:
“Limbaugh good, Limbaugh fine, everybody gets a chance. Clap your hands it’s party time and do the Limbaugh dance.”
I think you mean, “He”’s definitely hot……that adams apple gives it away theres a tree trunk under that dress
Sigh. Ann Coulter is like catnip for generder-confused lefties…
Should have read “gender-confused”, but the appearance of the word “nerd” in the above typo seemed right, somehow….
Or crack to gender oblivious righties
eh, drill a hole in a telephone pole, staple a blond hallween wig on and it’s pretty much the same thing
I’m confused, how can 2 men have a child?
I was wondering why Rush would go against his anti-gay stance, myself.
Ha. What sucks is that on my computer Google Ads picked up Coulter’s name and put a huge banner ad over there——–>
for her column. Ugh. Make it go away….refresh, refresh, refresh…
My question is – who likes Ann Coulter? If liberals hate her and most conservatives think she’s a b!tch, who is keeping her in the spotlight?
Adblocker Plus. THE reason to use Firefox.
Have it at home, but I can’t install stuff on my work computer…
Bummer.
I feel your pain parksj1, but luckily the guys in IT let me mess with my pc once they figured out I know how to use it.
“who likes Ann Coulter? If liberals hate her and most conservatives think she’s a b!tch, who is keeping her in the spotlight?”
Well, not to belabor the point, but she gets most of her airtime on Fox News.
She shows up on Larry King Live, usually partnered with someone who makes her look almost sane, just on the right. Like Al Sharpton.
In Soviet Russia, Child decides to have you.
So is the child going to be fat or anorexic? Only time will tell!
First one, then the other!
Now that I think about it, this does kind of look like one of those before and after P90X pics.
No it’s before Oxycotton, and after Oxycotton!!!!
This would have been funnier if the person had just stopped at we’ve decided to have a baby….
Why you may ask VNV, b/c we all know Obama is the antichrist!!!
The New Oxy-diet brought to you by our good friends at Pfizer Pharmaceuticals…
Extended use can cause you to become an oxymoron …
I wouldn’t necesarily call Rush an Ox, more like a big cuddly bear, without fur.
Rush is not something I would want to cuddle with.
oh god *hurls*
If you still believe in that sort of thing.
I’m pretty sure Obama’s not actually the antichrist. My money’s on Oprah.
My vote goes to one of these guys.
There you go VNV. “Damn the big corporations.” However without big corporations there wouldn’t be that many jobs, and their taxes. If you drove Walmart out, where would we get “People of Walmart.com”?
Shopping in stores owned by individuals? Keeping money in the community? Not ordering everything from China?
And you are telling me that its not a bit odd that the same people sit on all those different boards? So like 200 people control every major corporation in America? That doesn’t seem monopolistic and a bit unsafe to you?
Nope it doesn’t. Now here’s a question for you:
I’m assuming (bad thing I know) that you are for increasing the minimum wage. So if you want us to pay people more, which will cost companies more and cut into their profit (which is used to grow), therefore they need to outsource to China in order to keep the price of the product down so that people who are making minimum wage can afford it. Perhaps we let the companies garner what they want to pay employees, get out of their pockets with “legislation” and unions, and see how quickly the outsourcing stops.
No. I am not for increasing minimum wage. The companies will just inflate prices accordingly. That doesn’t work.
I also think some companies have grown enough, and their constant grab for more “growth” is a problem.
I think we should pass laws that make any company importing goods onto our soil have to follow the same labor laws we do no matter where they produce, including minimum wage. That ought to encourage them to keep making stuff here, which will increase employment, the people’s ability to spend, and further fuel the economy.
Big Government = BAD!!!! We need less laws regualting business. That’s how you bring business back. What’s next? We force businesses to “buy” American? Why do you think it’s so expensive to live in England or Japan? They do the same thing. Tax imports, levy laws on imports, etc…. Sorry I don’t want to pay twice what I’m paying for things now.
Well I think that’s were we definitely differ. I think in no way should those in power get more power. We won’t have to force business to buy American if things are being made here. But now that we know where each other stands, I think it’s best to end here, because now it will be just a circular debate.
But I be’s right anf you be wrong!!! Debates must end with a Victor (I prefer Victoria, but hey who cares)
Well since I have Victory in my name. I chose me. Game. Set. Match.
Ok if you want Victor he’s all yours. Be careful though he bites!!! (I’ll take Victoria Beckham that is..
)
OOOH looks like the judge called that last shot out, looks like we’re deuce again!!!
Actually the main reason so much stuff is expensive in the UK is cos we just get screwed. Apple a little while ago were ordered by the EU to bring the price of tracks bought on iPlayer in the UK into line with the rest of the EU. This is for downloading music, for no apparent reason other than they thought we would pay, they decided to arbitrarily charge us more. Yeah, we just get screwed (apart from on fuel and booze, where the government screws us instead, but hey nice to have some variety eh…)
I like peanut butter and VNV: I would like to thank you for having an intelligent debate, giving opinions without filth and pathetic name calling (IE: fascist, terrorist, teabagger, nazi, racist, Etc.) and even if you will never agree, generally letting the other person have there own opinion and not trying to silence anyone. It’s a breath of fresh air on the internet.
Rokri: We’ve had our “fights”, got past it, no we’ll only agree about 25% of the time. But we also like to show that occasionally a conservative and liberal can argue. Even if he is a looney tune!!! (I’m leaning towards Daffy Duck) Me… I’m Taz.
We like to save those terms so Justacarolinian can add something later.
You are so jealous of me that you have to bash me even when I’m not around. Or afraid. And notice who went into the name calling.
Funny, I can still get a McChicken for $1
Yeah, and you exchange your health for it. Now go get a healthy chicken sandwich.
You mean a McFrankensteinChicken. I fixed that for you.
Exactly what part of the chicken is the McChicken? I don’t remember any body parts starting with a “Mc”
Duh Rando! It’s made from the McGibblets!
McEw.
OMG – you would reduce the standard of living for workers in 28 of the 30 OECD countries by making them follow AMERICAN labour law for goods they export to the US? Well, it would certainly stop those countries bothering with selling to AND buying from the US…
If they have better labor laws then our own, then they would maintain them. Ours would be the minimum. The reason I say that is so our corporations cannot go enslave, pollute, and destroy in the name of making them a buck, and saving us a buck. That will inevitably come back to bite us all in the a$$.
It is pretty disgusting the way workers in (some) countries get treated for (some) of the goods that we import.
Sure, yay, it’s cheaper.. But what’s the human cost? Is my stereo really better because it cost less but was made by someone in a sweat shop that makes $0.30/an hour (I made that up but you get the idea).
I think outsourcing and importing has helped ruin our economy. It took away our jobs, it took away our pride and it just made the rich richer and the middle class poorer.
What kind of country will we be when there’s only the super rich and the dirt poor? Bring the jobs back here. Stop giving tax breaks to people for outsourcing. Penalise them instead, I say.
Well said charro.
Since the US doesn’t have a unified labour code that applies nationwide, it’s a moot point anyway…
Well then I guess there is our first step then isn’t it? Point unmooted.
It’ll never happen. American workers were divided and conquered years ago with the Taft-Hartley Act and neither party wants to dismantle that nasty little bit of legislation in the face of corporate lobbying and cries of “socialism” from the reds-under-beds brigade…
“It’ll never happen” is not what made America once great. And it certainly didn’t get us to the moon. And who cares who labels what socialism? Its obvious by now that that term has been bastardized to basically mean nothing and anything. Might as well not even use it.
sorry to point this out but: You didn’t go to the moon!
Me? No. I’ve never been there. Seems sort of lonely and boring.
Did I just read that right?
“I think we should pass laws that make any company importing goods onto our soil have to follow the same labor laws we do no matter where they produce, including minimum wage.”
are you saying the U.S. Government should enforce it’s will on other countries?
No I guess, he meant to make sure that you’d only let companies import goods whose countries share similar labour laws than yours.
Ok that’s more acceptable.
When other countries depend on outsourcing goods to the US for their livelihood, then it’s basically the same thing as imposing our will on their country. Try to follow the bouncing ball, Hackney.
Well we do so much enforcing our will on other countries anyway, I really didn’t think they would notice.
And the hope would be that those countries could still produce, but sell to their own people. The obvious end goal would be that everyone’s labor worldwide is worth the same, and that way we all have all the products at similar prices. And we all have access. Plenty of employment, plenty of products, plenty of money circulating.
Bouncing ball? Where? Where? *Throbbing*
Of course we tell other countries how to behave. We’re doing it already, always have, always will. There are only two questions: Do we do it using military, diplomatic, or economic means, and: Do we do it in a way that increases the power of the masses, or do we do it in a way that increases the power of the elite few born into positions of power and wealth?
WTG PortlandMark! You hit the nail on the head!
oh come on. You’re actually talking about world domination here. You want to put the entire world under one rule. VNV you’ve gone from nut to bond level villain. Also we don’t enforce our will on other counties otherwise we’d be attempting to convert china to capitalism and having the health care system in canada switch over to U.S. insurance companies. We try to help countries that are not as well off as we are. I will admit this is misguided and wrong sometimes. but we do not try to convert them to our way of life. I mean have you seen the army corp of engineers build a church in Iraq?
No, they only build mcdonald’s fastfood drive-thrus in Iraq!
“we’d be attempting to convert china to capitalism”
Did it already.
It is a basic tenet of the American Government that the USA represents the best the human race has to offer.
Okay, all you Europeans can stop laughing now.
Nevertheless, the US government operates under the principle that it is their duty to export American values to the rest of the world. Unfortunately, those values seem to change every few years, depending on the party in the White House. Like it or not, this is the world we live in. Personally, I like it, at least when it is *my* party in the WH; and when we use diplomatic and economic means to reach that goal!
Did anyone else notice how Care troll took “Everyone’s labor being the same” and turned it into “World Domination”?
I would have to say that’s more Bond Villian-esque than anything that VNV suggested.
Its ok Maxwell. I get that a lot. Just keep an eye out. You will find out I have more plans in the works than Dr. Doom depending on who reads what I write. Really, I just want the whole world to be safe, healthy, intelligent, and happy.
Maybe dance to some techno…
Watch Ghostbusters…
These fools obviously know nothing of world domination…
When my enemies infiltrate my lair and ask “Before you kill me, just tell me what your evil plan is all about!”
I simply say “No.” and kill them. You never let the opposing team read your playbook! That’s a rookie move!
I suppose there could be some reciprocity – US goods exported to countries with environmental, social and workers rights legislation would require the exporting US company to apply those same standards and rights in their US facilities..fair is fair…
Agreed. Lets do it!
Ok, so when are you introducing universal health care that is free at point of use?
“I really don’t want to know the extent of my injuries, and know about my face.”
Oprah “You realize that your face is really hard to look at.” Five minutes later, “Your injuries to your face are so signifigant.” What a freaking BEOTCH!!
She has a disturbing amount of control over a pretty large segment of society, too.
i heard about that interview on the radio this morning… the one good thing i can say about it is that at least oprah didn’t tyra banks it.
“ok, so your face is really ugly and people are mean to you about it, so i’m going to dress up like that so i can see what it feels like and then pretend that i know what you’re really going through so when i basically mock you through the whole interview i can say that i’ve been there and know what it’s like”
oprah’s an opportunistic whore… but no one made chimp lady (i can’t remember her name) sit down with her and talk. she could have stayed in her 24/7 security guarded room until she was ready.
You know there was a $50K bounty to whomever got the first shot of her face. How can someone live like that. I think she was going on Oprah whom’s supposidly a compassionate person hoping to stop the madness. I don’t fault her one bit, it took courage to do what she did, however she didn’t need Oprah being an asshat.
only 50k? i’m sure the price for a first picture was higher than that…
and you say how can someone live like that… she’s not really LIVING. she’s on a secluded floor of the cleveland clinic with a guard 24/7. she doesn’t go to appointments, they come to her. when she decides to leave her room to walk the halls they close all the doors to the other rooms on the hall and she wears a hat and veil. i had a friend who was the nurse of the woman who had the face transplant at CCF last year. he said that her room (on like the 10th floor) had blackout curtains on it because people were in the hotels across the street trying to get photos in the window. it’s not a life. and unfortunately, she’ll never have a “life” again. she’ll (charla, not face transplant) most likely need 24/7 care until the day she dies.
oprah’s better than most, but she sure wasn’t that sympathetic… you could practically see her counting the dollars in ad revenue while she wiped the tears off charla’s face.
*sigh* O x y C o n t i n
Hehe Charro we’re getting past the filter, one clever way at a time.
What a stupid filter that is. I can say pussy ass and shit, but not f u c k or o x y c o n t i n?
What about.. oxycodone?
ZOMFG.
Charro, did you see the lol where I did the scientific test of George Carlin’s seven words you can’t say on television? Turns out shit, piss, cunt, cocksucker, and tits are ok with the filter. Just fvck and motherfvcker are “bad”.
I know, what why are brand names for prescription drugs not ok?
Cocaine
Heroin
PCP
Ketamine
LSD
Crack
Crystal Meth
What the hell?
*coughs*Oxycontin*cough*
Maybe my clever coughing hides the real spelling from the filters!
“Oxycotton”? What about Oxylinen? And Oxywool? Oooh, don’t forget Oxymuslin . . . although, Oxyrayon is silky soft and long-lasting . . . my favorite, if I can’t get Oxysilk, of course. ::nods::
Damn, I way behind, as usual……
I’ve got sh^t to do, so I’m in, then I’m out, and I’m always a day late and a dollar short, reading and posting on here ….
::SIGH::
My money goes on bulimic. Best of both worlds. It’s the practicle person’s eating disorder.
It will certainly make bile spewing easier on command.
Fat head, skinny (tight) ass
Oh the humanity!
Oh the huge manatee!
That’s just Rosanne in a swim suit.
That’s an even worse visual than 1 guy, 1 jar. I guess we’re even now..
Hehehe.
And she’s looking for her bukkit.
Limbaugh/Coulter – 2012
- resistance is futile… all will be assimilated
See? The world will end in 2012! Here’s the proof.
i would love to see that child, the future owner of FOX and EIB Rush Limbaugh Rules!
Here he is… {link}
It burns! It burns!!!
omg
That is the scariest picture I’ve seen in a long time!
Rush Limbaugh signed a contract in 2001 for $297 million dollars to broadcast through summer 2009, which would make the answer, $33 million per year.
Gee, I guess people who listen to Rush W O R K, imagine that.
You people who spend all day on here should try it some time.
PS: the Apocalypse started Jan. 20, 2009
How’s that hope and change working out…oh that’s right, it’s working just fine for people who don’t.
I don’t see how him getting paid 33 million means that people are listening to him are working. In fact, most of the people I know that listen to his show are retired. I am not even sure that means -he- is working. Just means he is getting way over paid. And I am also not certain how you can post here and tell people not to be here?
Wow clueless much?
He gets paid by ADVERTISERS you moron, people don’t spend $33 million to advertise to people (like you) with no money. The people who pay him CHOOSE to. People who are retired ALREADY spent their life working since the welfare state didn’t start till long after they had to go to work and the kind of people who listen to Rush built this country and don’t like sitting on their lazy ass waiting for the government to support them.
Football players make tons of money, are they “over paid” by the “morons” who watch it?
I gave up counting how many THOUSANDS of posts on here are from you but ever heard the phrase “get a life”?
I know how he gets paid. There have been types of “welfare” since long before any of our grandparents were born.
Yes, football players are -way- overpaid. They are playing a child’s game and making millions while DOT workers are in the sun all day and getting paid peanuts.
I have a life. That’s why I only post from 8-5, while I am waiting for work to do. My job is pretty much “hurry up and wait”.
Really? name one
School.
marketing. you can’t do anything while you’re waiting for someone to give you the data. which is why i’m on here far too often too.
also – just to burst your (not you VNV) little bubble. he’s not paid by the advertisers. he’s paid by the station, you ass. the advertisers pay into the station but their cash goes across all programs and all personalities… their cash also pays the guy who cleans the toilets. maybe in your delusional little world mcdonalds writes out the check directly to rush… but that’s not how it works in the real world.
also, i like how you assume none of us here have money. just an fyi, i have enough in my savings to pay CASH for a house. so do yourself a favor and shut up and fvck off.
Have you gone blind yet from your mother washing your mouth out with soap ? Ralphie? Is that you?
nope. my mom swears like a sailor too. she gave up on my language a LONG time ago. plus, what i wrote up there is pretty clean… you should catch me when i’m actually pissed off, not just annoyed.
I love that scene in A Christmas Story when teh lug nuts go flying into the icy, dark night and Ralphie says exactly what his father always said while dealing with the furnace. The slow motion makes it even better!
oooooooooh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-ddddd-ggggggggg-e.
Hey, me too!
Unfortunately, it’s this house.
i’ll bet you that the plywood over the windows could be repurposed as part of the deck of a new roof! i mean, that’ll save you probably $50 at homedepot! it’s a start…
ok, i just read this part:
Mortgage approval/proof of funds required with all offers.
if you have to MORTGAGE a $850 house… perhaps you shouldn’t be buying a house. just a thought.
Yeah, I think I’ll just pay cash, slap on a coat of paint, and flip it for $1700.
Or disassemble it for the wood, and sell that for about $4500.
JAC – it says it was in a fire… i’m not sure the shape of the wood inside. i think diss has the more sound approach this time around.
Heck, burn it the rest of the way down, have a big hot dog roast, and sell the dogs. Do your part for cleaning up the neighborhood, and make a few bucks!
I would just raze the house, but a fence up, and call it one hell of a lawn!!
but=put
Stop butting the fence, Eddie. You don’t have your helmet on!
Sorry, it was the headache I got from jim. It made act irrationally. Still, think of the lawn you could control!
Believe me, I’ve thought of buying the house next door for exactly that purpose. Well, and to have room for a garage.
I have enough in my savings to buy a doll house. A cheap one, like from a dollar or thrift store. That’s good right? Right?
I bought a Coke yesterday. Does that count?
You bought Coke. DRUGGY DRUGGY!!! Quick call the FDA…. oh wait I mean ummm FBI, DEA.
Well, at one time, it was a 2 for 1 purchase!
ALL savings is good.
**pats Mina on head**
Did anyone ever explain to you why it was funny to call a Betta VCR or were we too busy remembering old stereo systems?
Yay! I’ve done something dood!
LOL, I posted that question at about 11 last night while I was half asleep. When I got on this morning I looked at it again and felt really stupid for not having got the reference. What can I say though? I’m a true blonde.
Actually you’re WRONG, the national advertisers pay HIM/and the company that syndicates him and so do the radio stations he’s on to attract listeners who buy local ads when he’s on. He’s on HUNDREDS of stations.
And having enough to buy a trailer somewhere doesn’t impress me.
She wasn’t talking to you, and thereby wasn’t wanting/needing to impress you, unless you were the one flinging insults…
Which seeing as how you seem so eager to put her down, means you just exposed yourself as a sock, or terribly self important.
A sock/troll who acts terribly self-important to try to compensate for his unimportance? (‘o’)
Never heard that one before. Next you’ll be saying something crazy like “Maybe the guy who drives this isn’t exactly hung like a bear.” (^_~)
But that’s just crazy talk, ari! Clearly, any man who would drive that is manly and endowed indeed.
You’re probably right, by comparison with the average hamster. (^_^)
Hung like a gorilla.
(Look it up; that’s not flattering to any primate.)
Yeah, well Nickelback’s is on a lot of stations, but they suck too.
Yeah, but you still like them.
Maybe you should pick another example?
Kings on Leon? They annoy the piss out of me and sound like the poor man’s Counting Crows… but they’re on every radio station. That should work for ya
Kings of Leon*
I’m not the only one! I can’t listen to their voices long enough to determine whether I like the songs. The problem is, when I turn my radio off I still have the first two lines repeating in my mind unstoppably.
Do NOT sound like Counting Crows!!
(But that’s only ‘cuz I hated Counting Crows and I like Kings of Leon.)
No, no, it’s not true! I don’t like Nickelback, it’s not true, no matter what you’ve heard!!! *sobs*
*ahem*
Post by Rando the anti EWAdams-ist who wants him castrated by an angry pit bull, November 7, 2009 at 3:26 pm, here.
The prosecution rests.
What’s the penalty for perjury around here?
:::swings cat o’ nine tails, whistles:::
just out of curiosity… show me where the trailers are in shaker heights, ohio. oh right, you asswipe… there aren’t any.
and i’m not wrong. mcdonalds does NOT write a check to him. they write a check to his home station which then passes the ad revenue on to the syndicates… from the ad revenue the home station writes rush a check. if you’re going to correct me and be a self righteous dick about it… at least get it right.
They are paid what the people who own the teams CHOOSE to pay them, nobody from the government is making them. I believe the people getting paid “peanuts” also CHOOSE to work there.
In 2008, the average wage for 1.9 million federal civilian workers was $79,197, which compared to an average $50,028 for the nation’s 108 million private sector workers. Why don’t you whine about that?
If only 108 million people work, that means 200 million + plus DON’T.
You would think they choose to work there. But the fact is that in many places in the country, the jobs are all but gone. DOT is actually one of the higher paying jobs for blue collar workers.
Its our fault we let all the jobs get outsourced. Now we have to live with our mistake.
VNV: Circle, circular, round shape…. It’s the Government and Union’s fault jobs got outsourced, please don’t lump me in with that “our”. Thank you. Round and round we go..
Its the corporations that outsourced. Not the government. It was their option. And consider yourself lumped.
No it was the government leaving the companies no choice but to outsource or raise prices. Raising prices yields less sales, or the “EVIL companies raise prices just to make a profit, now poor minimum wage Tommy can’t afford the TV.” It’s a no win with you guys.
It gave them a choice. Lower the expected profit to provide a good quality of live for your employees or leave. They chose leave. And it’s easy to blame them for it. The problem with these companies is that their sole purpose is to generate as much profit as that can. The cut corners on safety, pay, benefits, and quality. And then, once they start making that profit, the feel the must -always- increase it. Or then they start hurting people to get more. The problem is the focus of the corporation. The main goal should be to maximize profit, but to maximize the benefit to the community that they bring.
No the purpose of a business is to generate income. That’s the bottom line. Can’t fault them for it, if it’s within the guidlines of the law. However if we keep adjusting laws to mandate “morals” of a comapny then how are we any different than those making mandates to control our “morals”?
If the company doesn’t make a profit then there is no overhead for R&D, which in turn creates jobs and allows the company to compete and continue to grow creating more jobs. There are many companies now dropping health benefits b/c they figure within a year the government will be picking up the tab, and they can save money. So instead of making companies have better helath benefits as incentives, the Government has done the exact opposite with it’s growth.
Outsourcing is a good thing. All the USA has to do is make stuff or provide services that no other country can do better or more efficiantly. Then everybody wins. If all the folk working at Microsoft, Google or Apple were making cheap clothes or plastic toys instead, they and the USA would be a lot poorer.
Well thats your opinion, isn’t it?
This website and the computers we’re using and the software we’re using to have all these interesting discussions are made possible by a society moving beyond a basic agricultural/engineering economy.
HA! There’s me pointing out YOUR spelling mistakes. Sorry VNV.
The corporations outsource because of unions and TAXES.
It may come as a surprise that US companies pay the highest taxes in the world. Yes, you read that right. American businesses, large and small and across all industries pay from 35% to 41.6% of their income in combined state and federal taxes. The 41.6% maximum rate is scheduled to rise to 46.2% in 2010 when President Obama’s promised tax increases are implemented. Compare that to socialist France where companies pay only 34.4% in taxes, to China where the rate is 25%, or Russia which levies a mere 24%. Corporations in Ireland, Europe’s fastest growing economy for the
last 18 years, pay just 12.5% in taxes.
Translation, almost HALF of the cost of everything you buy is taxes, when you buy gas it’s more than half so don’t whine about outsourcing and then say how wonderful the welfare state is.
You learn something new every day. Could you send me a link for that, please? I’d like to bookmark it.
Why? It’s complete bulldust, not least because corporations pay tax on their profits, not their turnover.
So if a gallon of gas costs $2 at the pump, and $1-90 to extract and refine, that means that maybe 4c of the pump price is tax.
I believe Isi was aware of this and was asking for a link because s/he knew Try Again would be unable to provide one.
Actually, it’s the fault of people who don’t understand the concept of false economy and refuse to pay more than $6 for a pair of pajamas or $20 for a pair of shoes, thereby having to have those things made by people who make .10 an hour. If people bought fewer things but of higher quality, manufacturing could have stayed where it was.
Twenty dollars for shoes..where???? Last pair of boots I looks at in Norstoms where $495.00 ON SALE!! And do not get me started on DSW, $20.00 might buy you a pair of nice tights. And still this stuff is made overseas. So I don’t think your argument holds. We are still paying exhorbitant prices for crappy products, that money is going to some idiot CEO making millions while doing nothing. But trying to stop that nonsense is now called socialism…go figure
Anything that could potentially hurt the profits of the extremely wealthy will be painted as evil. They control all the media and the government. We now have only limited options.
Actually anything that limits companies should be painted as “EBIL”!!! Anything that limits pretty much anything (within bliblical standards of course..
) Seriously though, why is “Big Business” seen as so evil? I don’t understand. I worked for a small company and got laid off when times were tough (under Clinton), yet when I worked for a fortune 500 company and times got tough (under Bush) they found me another job within the company. We have limited options b/c many companies don’t want to deal with the tax codes of America. Especially since Dems have been in power. Insurance companies are ebil, big car companies are ebil, power companies are ebil, so let’s TAX them more. That won’t send jobs elsewhere or drive companies out of business now will it.
And to Sara, you need to shop elsewhere woman. At least go to Nordstrom Rack where there is some semblance of a deal.
It’s very simple ILPB, Big Business is evil because it provides less and less while making more and more. They take advantage of anyone, any way they can and they spit in the face of people looking to make a decent living.
And the one thing that everyone here knows, that you have NO defense against, and have made NO attempt to refute is that The businesses has a choice between A) Taking a cut in their overabundant profits to make and provide quality care/wages/quality of life or B) Ship their work elsewhere, driving jobs and money out of the domestic economy, and depriving the government of taxes needed in order to keep this huge nation we live in, running.
The shareholders and folks who run big businesses don’t give one flying f*ck about you, why do you care so much for their happiness?
*snerk* If you’re paying $495 for a pair of boots, you are soooooo getting fleeced. Last pair of boots I bought was a really kickin’ pair of Steve Maddens on clearance from their website; I think they were about $50 (under $100 anyway — it’s been a couple of years) and they’d probably survive a nuclear war.
lemme put it this way for you diss… this moron expected to find a deal in nordstroms. problem of the $500 boots solved.
go to macy’s or steve madden or bakers shoes… of COURSE they’re $500 at nordstroms you idiot. you walk through the door and they charge you $50 just for walking on their floors.
I think one point would be, that one used to be able to buy shoes made in town (by the local cobbler), or at least in the USA. There used to be a shoe factory in the town next to me…now all biotech firm labs in there. Biotech jobs are great, but they all require a college degree, unlike the skilled labor of shoe construction.
So aside from medicines, we don’t have the option to ‘buy American’ any more.
Shopping at Nordstroms tax $50, breathing nordstroms air tax $38/hour, double tax for nordstroms in CA, Tax for paying to many taxes $73 …oh…wait…I’m on the wrong lol for taxes aren’t I?
You are 100% right, shortright. One of the managers at my store used to be a buyer for Nordstrom’s. He said one thing they never had to do was haggle over price. Why? Because Nordstrom’s didn’t give a shit how much they paid for the merchandise because they made NO attempt at keeping prices down. Why? Because people who shop at Nordstrom’s WANT to spend more. The more money they waste there on overpriced merchandise, the classier or more prestigious they feel. So yeah, you’re dead on. You’ll never find a DEAL at Nordstrom’s.
the number of people “not working” also includes children, the elderly, the ones in prison, those in hospitals, those who legitimately can’t work… take all of them out and you’ve definitely not got 200M who are choosing to not work.
we’re a country of approximately 350M people. about a third are children. so that takes the work force to 250M. about a third are elderly, disabled, prison, etc… so that’s now only 150M… and if 108M are working, then that seems like we’re not doing all that bad if only 42M aren’t working. when you factor in the 10.2% unemployment rate… we’re right back up at damn near 150M. so, rush, once again i’m going to request that you shut up and fvck off.
Especially since the ‘unemployment rate’ doesn’t include those who have either used up their official unemployment benefits but still haven’t found jobs. Nor does it include those who either are underemployed…
I agree with shortright, and not just because she has cleavage.
(although that’s nice too!)
Oh, I thought it was because she is loaded.
*considers ways to get into her will…..*
steve i think we just divided by zero… you’re a libtard and i’m a conservobot. we’re not supposed to agree on things.
and yes, i do have nice boobies.
I think I will have to side with the Bloodhound Gang when I say “Hooray for Boobies”!
ONLY 42 MILLION?? ONLY?? what kind of drugs are you on?
The kind that keep us from shipping your ignorant ass to France.
Well, you know, there’s a system where everyone is required to work to make the system work. It’s called communism.
And it’s failed every time it has been tried.
Because people don’t so much LIKE to work.
Hence Powerball.
Oy. Seriously. I was very much in favor of communism in high school, then I got a job in the real world and discovered half my co-workers were lazy fscktards. I then began to wonder what they would do if food and shelter were guaranteed to them no matter what and suddenly all my hopes for communism were gone.
do you want the whole list or just the fun ones?
Well, 109.9 million assuming were including federal civilian workers. Add in Federal Military (non-civilian) workers. Then factor in retired people who used to work but now collect a pension. And children who are to young to work. Also there’s the stay at home parents who choose not to work. Then those by lucky circumstance don’t have to work (heir/heiress, lottery winners, winners of overlarge lawsuits). The unlucky ones who Can’t work and are on disability. Go look those numbers up and Then tell me how many people aren’t working but are looking for work.
Oops. I saw Shorty already made this point. Sorry.
it’s ok. asshats deserve to be told (repeatedly) just how fvcking stupid they really are.
How much money has Miley Cyrus made? The Jonas Brothers? Trump? Pinochet? Papa Doc? Kraft Foods? Whoever makes Slapchops? Yep, how much money someone has made because there is a sufficiently large audience of morons available is a true indicator of quality.
That aside, finally, one of these things made me laugh.
Leave it to a liberal puke to compare Miley Cyrus to Donald Trump.
I guess all the little 10 year olds who like Miley are morons, right?
Oh wait, I’m gonna bet the ones who make here rich have parents who WORK…imagine that! hmmm there seems to be a pattern here.
Puke? As in Spewing Bile? As in, what you are doing?
Yes he spewing bile, yes he is the standard attack first and not listen type arguer. He hasn’t learned to play nice with others, unlike us VNV!!!
I believe the point he is trying to make, and you wish wasn’t a true fact is, as long as their is a market for the “talents” of an individual, they will get paid for such “talent”, whether it’s too much or not. It’s called Capitalism, which you hate. I understand you’re point about the construction worker (not DoT, they work in comfy offices with lots of coffee), and the janitor, and the people at the “bottom” of the pyramid get paid crap for what seems like working harder. However have you ever seen 100,000 screaming fans cheering on a guy filling a pot hole?
Union “workers” filling holes get paid $20-$40/hr, now THAT is over paid!
Rush. It’s not him paid $20- $40 an hour, but the two “managers” watching him fill the pot hole.
Here in Taxachusetts, the prevailing wage for a hole filler is at least $30/hr, the “manager” is getting way more than that.
What’s wrong with people who work hard getting paid well? Or is it only business executives and right wing pundits who deserve the big bucks?
Talent is learned. You can teach anyone to do pretty much anything. Its the denied opportunities you are wishing wasn’t true.
Can you teach me to draw a decent three-dimensional work of art? Because I’d love to learn to draw, and right now I suck at it.
This is a poor example. All trained artists I know, regardless of their field, can draw correctly. They all say it’s just practice. You *can* learn to draw a cow that looks like a cow.
Making a Picasso-like cow that people will pay the big $ for, that’s another story. But the mechanics, not much different than learning to disassemble (and reassemble!) a carburetor. Okay, dating myself again.
And what happened to you wanting peace between the usual squabblers? Now you’re contributing!
Not everyone can learn to disassemble/assemble, as you put it. I will be returning to work in a transmission shop in a few days, and know for a fact that everyone can’t repeat monkey on a typewriter movements and rebuild transmissions. Most mechanics from other fields treat a transmission man like he is the big dog in the pack.
It takes an effort of knowledge of principles, learned dexterity in handling many of the parts, and a dedication of constant training.
Even carb rebuilders (who are rare these days) have to have a wide variety of skills to correctly rebuild and set up the different types of carbs.
If it were as simple as practice, we would all study to be brain surgeons.
Well, the University of Joe says I’m now a qualified brain surgeon, and it only cost me $49.95!! Line forms to the left please..
You would be surprised at how many people think you can repair a transmission for $49.95, and all in 30 minutes time. Never mind they have been ignoring the warning light for a month.
Yup. VNV and mabsba are mixing up and conflating talent and skill. Skill can be taught. Talent is something you’re born with.
I think now we are just talking symantics.
Or facts.
What does my antivirus protection have to do with anything?
Well justa, I guess you know all… but according to thesaurus.com a synonym for talent is “skill” and the definition of skill is “talent to do something”. But then again, you always know best. Well except this time. And the last time.
skill
1 /skɪl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [skil] Show IPA
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–noun
1. the ability, coming from one’s knowledge, practice, aptitude, etc., to do something well: Carpentry was one of his many skills.
2. competent excellence in performance; expertness; dexterity: The dancers performed with skill.
3. a craft, trade, or job requiring manual dexterity or special training in which a person has competence and experience: the skill of cabinetmaking.
tal⋅ent
/ˈtælənt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [tal-uhnt] Show IPA
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–noun
1. a special natural ability or aptitude: a talent for drawing.
2. a capacity for achievement or success; ability: young men of talent.
3. a talented person: The cast includes many of the theater’s major talents.
4. a group of persons with special ability: an exhibition of watercolors by the local talent.
5. Movies and Television. professional actors collectively, esp. star performers.
6. a power of mind or body considered as given to a person for use and improvement: so called from the parable in Matt. 25:14–30.
Close, but NOT the same thing.
So i guess it just depends on where you go for the definition then doesn’t it? Or even… symantics? Thanks for proving my point.
Not symantics. There is a distinct difference. As Froo said, one is taught, one you are born with.
A perfect example, GWB. He was taught, but lacked talent. All the college education in the world wouldn’t make a difference.
I know you want to be right sooo bad, but clearly we have two different apparently legitimate sources and they don’t even agree. So you are going to have to settle for both of us having an opinion. And just leave it at that.
VNV, it’s hurting my linguistically uptight little heart:
Semantics: the study of meanings
Symantec: the corporation that develops/distributes Norton Anti-Virus.
Well… I guess Diss gets to be right.
Actually, you are dancing around the issue. You know you are wrong, and have already started the insults.
One of us used a website that purposefully compares similar words, one of us used a website that gives the actual meanings.
One of us is trying to twist things to his opinion, one of us is using factual information.
Just give it up man.
Justa wins on this one, VNV. Sorry. A thesaurus does not give a definition, and a synonym isn’t the same thing as a definition. It’s just a similar use for a different word that might or might not mean the same thing as the original word. In this case, talent and skill are not interchangeable.
froo… It doesn’t matter. And the thesaurus is the one that gave me the definition. So it wasn’t just a synonym, it was the definition it gave. So both of you are wasting time barking up a tree with nothing in the branches. Just leave it be.
Let me interpret that for you. He’s full of turkey stuffing, got caught, and needs a save face way to dodge.
He went to tomatoes.com and found out that tomatoes are the best there is. All the time knowing if would support his theory, and that there was a better way to get the information.
I am really beginning to wonder if he was part of the GWB intelligence team that cherry picked things for ole GW.
In this case, VNV, it DOES matter. Words are important, and the use of words is just as important, especially when you’re trying to be specific about what you’re trying to portray. You can teach me to draw a decent cow picture, but it’ll never be art. It’ll never be worth anything, because although you have taught me the SKILL of drawing, I lack the TALENT to turn it into anything worthwhile.
I can teach you to spell correctly, but I can’t teach you how to put those words that you have spelled correctly into an award-winning novel without you having the talent to do so.
Practice cultivates skill. Birth creates talent. There is a difference, and it’s an important one. Since I can’t change your already made up mind (you have a talent for being hard-headed when you think you’re right), I’ll leave it at that.
Go to thesaurus.com and look up the work skill for yourself a$$hole. Or do you only go look for something to copy and paste when you think it will tip the scale in your direction? Why do you always have to hound me and bitch for minor nitpicky nothings that clearly can be interchanged? Jesus you are a douche.
Diss, I noticed that too, but HAD to play along. It adds to the effect.
You guys debate it between yourselves. And I hope you give each other a good circle jerk for double teaming me when clearly the word was defined for me as well. Just cause you can’t let it go, go ahead and pretend you are right. Now go harass someone else.
I guess you couldn’t type dictionary. Thesaurus was so much easier to spell.
One is made for comparison of similar words, to make them sound alike. One is made to define each word, no matter what the situation is.
At least I know the difference between minority and majority.
Actually, I’m the one who knows the difference. You were the one playing both sides of that argument, in support of your Utopia. Or as it was referred to, back pedaling.
Yep. I have been taught to read sheet music and tableture for Banjos, but can’t play of any decent quality. Of all the delicate and/or strong things I do with my hands and fingers, picking a Banjo is one I can’t do. And oddly, I can pick decently, which is what holds most people back. I can’t fret well. I can’t get the right sound quality if I try to do it fast enough to play.
One of the things I get cheesed at Limbaugh about. “Talent on loan from GOOOODDDDDDD.”
If the only talent a man has is picking his nose, it’s still on loan from God.
About what Limbaugh says about talent…….he has frequently explained himself in the past that all of his talent is on loan from God
Just goes to show that if you don’t listen, you don’t know 
If God gave Rush his “talent” then I must say I’m losing respect for the big guy in the sky.
Don’t involve me in your flame wars!
I’m not sure those are the exact words I would use, but that is exactly the concept I was pointing out: You *can* learn to do a lot of things; doesn’t mean you’ll be good at them.
Geez.
Some of us try do discuss, some try to flame anyone that doesn’t immediately bow to their perceived masterful intellect.
I just hope you aren’t putting yourself into that “us” category.
Oh, in layman’s terms, doing it well versus just doing the minimum IS the difference between the talented and untalented.
To use your earlier example, rebuilding a 1 or 2 barrel Carter Carb from the 60’s or early 70’s is not that hard. Like drawing a stick figure. Now, a Rochester 4 barrel Quadrajet with a mixture control solenoid is about the Michaelangelo equivalent.
Hmmm, I do recall someone whining about how wrong it was to jump in other’s conversations. But, we all know he has a double standard.
I like how its a double standard when I do it, and standard precedure when you do it.
I didn’t declare it an evil thing to do. YOU did. Once again, speaking out of both sides of your mouth.
And while we are at it, I would like to point out that the thread you are speaking in right now it part of my “talent” thread. So.. I suppose there was no double standard afterall. So take that… out of both sides of my mouth at the same time. Nub.
You were in the above thread, yes. You were not in the conversation with mabsba and myself. Not that I mind. I just pointed out how hypocritical you are.
If you go up six posts, thats where I started your conversation. So now I am jumping in to make sure you were refering to yourself as the one that tries to “flame anyone that doesn’t immediately bow to their perceived masterful intellect”
Ahh, but that’s the entire point. mabsba and I were not talking with you, which is what you whined about so often before. She was replying to Froo. Now I did jump in and contribute, but I’ve never whined about others jumping in.
Its cool man. As long as it was you were referring to then I’m good. *hops back out*
*makes note of face saving back pedaling*
I love your hot button words. Its like you have 5, and you cling to it with everything you have because you know you couldn’t talk your way out of a wet paper bag. So cling on we man! cling on!
Kilngons? Don’t start the Star Trek thing again. Besides, accurate descriptions aren’t hot button words.
The Vulcans used logic and were far superior to us deer ole Homo-Sapiens. It was for the good of the people. If it killed sixmillion, but saved six million and one, let us do it. Vice actually looking for a better way outside the box.
But none of them you even came up with. Each of them you stole from someone else. Like the ones you are using today. And the back peddling thing was about backing down to those people I agree with, so once again you have taken it out of context. The point is, you are an idiot. You are a suck up troll that flames those you don’t like, and suckle the teat of anyone who will give you the time of day. And some people may enjoy your presence, but eventually, you are gonna get old and in the end, at least I had something to day, and all you did was copy and paste words that others said against me. So keep it up!
VNV was that to JAC or me?
JAC. I am so used to ignoring you I didn’t even see you post. Now, what was that again?
Oh VNV, we’ll always have Paris!
Now it seems that you are upset because others see the same things in you as I do. And I refer to them because you always deny it when I say it. Claim it to only be my views.
And I have come up with plenty. And busted you often. And you hate that.
I think we all can see today who has fallen to the level of a slobbering troll. It’s easy to see who had nothing honest to say, and had to resort to name calling.
I think we have. And its the same person it has always been. You. And I still don’t see these droves of your “supporters” you are talking about. I still stand that they are all in your head. You have never stated any view. Its always. “States rights” and then whatever insults you saw yesterday to mix in. You are a moron. And I pity your family and your state, and it’s rights.
Wow, your butt hurts so much you had to reach way back for that insult.
And make up your mind. Either I stole it ALL from others, or I made it up.
Go ahead. Froth some more. It’s funny.
I don’t think I have to say anymore. I have stated it as plainly as possible. And because you are such a moron, I am going to do everything I can to just outright ignore you from now on. You are a waste of my time.
Got caught talking out of both sides of the mouth again. *Hehehe* (insert Buggs Bunny voice) What a nincompoop.
Oh fer fvck’s sake, do you guys even remember what you’re arguing about?
Uhhhh, Klingons?
On Urananus?
Damn it!!
*Uranus*
Ok… VNV… Justa… both of you STFU and avoid each other.
Don’t reference each other and if either of you even so much as makes a passive aggressive comment towards the other I am henceforth giving both of you long, stern reach arounds! So play nice… for f*ck’s sake!
Max, I’m still waiting for my LONG and stern reach around.
Thank you Maxwell!
/gives Maxwell a whole plate of cookies.
/would also give a reach around hand shake but just doesn’t know him that well.
Well, I didn’t say to learn to be a carb guy; I said *a* carburetor. I still maintain that a reasonably intelligent, determined person can take *one* apart and put it back together. Doesn’t make you a carb guys any more than drawing the cow makes you the Picasso of cow drawers. Just pointing out that tasks are doable.
You’d be amazed how much car work a bunch of grad students can do when the alternative is no car to go get bbq in! And, yes, it took us forever. Of course now everything is computerized anyway, so it’s pretty moot.
Rebuild the starter? Nooooo…replace the $500 computer! Argh.
And love my mechanic, who is smart as heck and does these things so I don’t have to any more!
Well, with loving grace, please understand that I mean you no disrespect. And I would bet that the meters were off on that carb. That takes a lot of practice. Even when you have talent.
Most mechanics get bored with the highly educated who try to talk down to us, or demand we explain the entire workings before we do the repairs.
Well, considering that we had to fix the carb because some supposedly trained mechanic had screwed it up, it was better than it was when we started! At least the car ran….
And don’t complain to any woman about people talking down to you about cars. Geez. The way we decide if we’ll even look at cars on a lot is if the salesperson answers *my* questions. (They always answer my husband’s.) Ditto for shops. Fortunately we’ve had a really good mechanic for a long time now. Not as entertaining as the ones who were laundering $ for the mob in Austin, but very competent.
But I admire expertise in any field…and am equally annoyed by incompetence.
Total agreement there, Ma’am. (Happy Froo?)
Just like there are bad doctors, teachers, policemen, ect…. you can get good ones and bad ones in any field. And even the best can make mistakes. Even with a high degree of both talent and skill.
Oh, about the apostrophe thing: just remember that when you make a contraction, you put the apostrophe in where you took the letter(s) out.
So madam becomes ma’am.
There actually are *some* simple spelling rules in English.
*English nerd helpful hint of the day*
Oh, that and don’t trust spellcheck. It, um, well, really no other way to phrase it, sucks.
LOL, thanks for the help. I must plead that my skills are somewhat rusty, as I have had my head buried in some car or map since I graduated high school, back in the 80s.
See, if it was a talent, I would be doing it much easier. Though both talent and skill can be improved by practice and training. I’m sure Elvis practiced at some point, and more than likely took lessons too.
Hmm, your ‘aw, shucks, I’m just a mechanic and don’t remember all that book learning’ doesn’t really go that well with wanting respect for what you do/know for a living since it implies that *you* have been doing something *useful* instead. It’s a bit disrespectful to people who have chosen to stay with ‘that thar book larning.’ People won’t respect what you do for a living if you don’t respect what they do for a living.
Probably not how you mean to come across. I find people in any field are much more respectful if you just say, thanks, that’s good to know (as I frequently say to my mechanic) instead of trying to explain not knowing.
I, for example. learned that that stupid part that locks and unlocks my door is an acuator (sp?) and costs freaking $115! *kicks car door*
See what I mean, I haven’t used my written skills much, and didn’t get that across to you the way I meant. Then again, some of the most brilliant minds ever had troubles with written language.
I meant it simply that I am rusty at it, and doing my best to study again. It was my career choice, not that other’s weren’t useful. And a funny thing, I am a bookworm, and a speed reader. Yet it often seems I have to put a much larger effort into writing what I am thinking. But I don’t think I’m alone in that department.
Yep, that writing’s a lot harder than that reading! That’s why I get paid the big bucks!
Try Strunk and White’s “The Elements of Style.” also called White’s little book. Main problem is that we always know what we mean and we think that what we write says exactly that. but it seldom does, even for professional writers.
So what did I just say? Hm….
Something I was told by a professional is that 85% of communication is actually body language, and one of the biggest reasons why people fail to communicate their thoughts in written form. And while I’m not the fastest keyboardist, I am well above 40 wpm, yet my fingers can never keep up with the whole thought. I go back sometimes and see things I left out. *sigh*
Yes, studies indicate language is at least 50% non-verbal at the best of times, which explains why I FAIL at Spanish on the phone, but am okay in person.
But to argue about the rather nitpicky difference between skill and talent then claim rusty language skills…come on.
I wasn’t claiming rusty skills as the difference between the two, but rather mentioned them as why I didn’t come across to you as I desired. In no way did I wish to imply that others were not “usefully” employed.
And I will gladly disagree with you on the skill vs talent. American Idol is the perfect example. How much do you think the losers have trained and practiced? Both talent and skill can be enhanced, but you can’t fake a lack of talent.
Hmm…yes, but I won’t (disagree about such things). Just pointing out that you and VNV get in, well, heck, pissing matches over semantics when you know perfectly well what the other person means.
Must be the mom in me, but if you can’t get along with the other kid, don’t talk to him!
Yeah, I tried that. But every time I have a point of view, or join any conversation, here he comes with the insults. And I figure it’s best to stand up to the bully. I’ve offered peace a bunch of times, admitting that we will never agree on somethings. But as soon as I disagree with him, or agree with someone he doesn’t like, I get the poop storm.
And it wasn’t just semantics. It was him trying to weasel his way out of something when he was called on it. He has the idea that he is too educated to ever make an error. And has boasted of it. I have never encountered such an ego in all my life.
Might I suggest something JAC? Do whatever it was that you and I did before we became best friends.
If I remember correctly, we used to kinda be at each other’s throats, until…. something…. happened? Was it my boyish good looks? Or the fact that I’m hounding you for a reach around?
Well, Max, as flattering as your invitation is, I’ll settle for the right in front of me. Save that reach around for someone who needs it. But I am, seriously, flattered.
And I think we both had enough self respect to back off when we saw the other giving an opening to do so. And not just assume when either one of us made a joke. Nor are either of us quite so extreme.
You’re going back to work, JAC? Congratulations!
Thank you. I’m still waiting on the processing time to release the part timers I will be replacing. And yes, I feel bad for them. But that wasn’t my idea. I simply asked if there was a job available. They were the ones riding the clock instead of working. At least the boss was nice enough to give them 2 weeks.
I can teach you to draw a cube! Beyond that…not so much….
Get a few books (by different artists) on art and drawing. Copy every picture, over and over again. Not tracing mind you, but copy by drawing. Make sure some are on perspective. Also draw lots of objects in front of you, people included. If you can find a life drawing session (naked people) attend it.
Eventually you’ll be able to draw well, and if you copy many styles, you’ll end up developing your own.
That is absolute nonsense and one of the most retarded liberal statements ever. Stupid people are born stupid and you can send them to school for eternity and at the end of the day, they’re just as stupid as when they were born. Very few people can do many things in life (doctors, scientists etc etc and yes, even football players) and no, you can’t “teach” someone to be intelligent. I have seen with my own eyes someone, actually 2 people (the first one finally got fired) who were too damn stupid to sweep a floor. That was like 5 years ago and I can guarantee that guy is just as useless now as he was then and always will be.
We’re very proud you’re here to show us that you can’t change stupid.
Now, now- don’t say things like that about Joe Biden ! He can’t help it if he can’t sweep a floor !
Actually, I’m comparing crap to crap – just a few of the different forms it takes. And yes, there’s a good change that a ten year old who likes Miley Cyrus will grow up to be a not-too-bright adult with questionable taste. This can be surmised because there are plenty of ten year olds who actually like good music/books/movies. Idiocy doesn’t just spring full-blown from the forehead once one reaches the age of majority.
Actually, I’m comparing crap to crap – crap comes in many forms. And yes, there are better than average odds that a ten year old who likes Miley Cyrus will grow to become a not-too-bright adult with questionable taste. This can be surmised because there are plenty of ten years olds who appreciate quality music/books/movies. Idiocy doesn’t just spring full-blown from the forehead upon reaching the age of majority. You fecking idiot.
Rattus: YOu know you’re drunk when you repeat yourself. You know you’re drunk when you repeat yourself, you know you’re.. oh damn it.
Robin Williams FTW
Damn these stupid things, making me double post. I hate technology nearly as much as I hate Rush, Coulter and their potential spawn.
Arrrgggghhhhhh
The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation reported that the House version of the healthcare bill specifies that those who don’t buy health insurance and do not pay the fine of about 2.5 percent of their income for failing to do so can face a penalty of up to five years in prison!
according to a recent analysis by the Congressional Budget Office, the lowest-cost family non-group plan under HR 3862 [the Pelosi bill] would cost $15,000 by 2016.
(fine=TAX for the few of you who actually work and can’t afford to pay the $15,000)
but people who never have and never will work a day in their worthless lives aren’t required to pay for a thing and get free insurance from cradle to grave whether it’s in jail or a housing project….yeah, that’s a great system.
See, now there’s your problem. You just called all those people worthless. That’s the kind of mentality that caused most of our social problems today. Social problems that could have been avoided. We used it for American Indians, then Blacks, then Immigrants, now the poor and Muslims. Can’t you see where this mentality has led and is leading?
I don’t mind that attitude for illegals. And yes they are illegal immigrants and not “undocumented workers”. However the rest I don’t htink anyone is worthless… my shoes always need a good shining.. :-O
No one is worthless. Regardless of your shoes.
That’s what I said. No one is worthless.
While I’d agree that there’s always at least some potential value in any human life, I would also note that there’s an awful lot of people (both on welfare and driving Range Rovers to their aerobics class in the suburbs) who are at best categorized as “Completely Unproductive”.
unproductive is ok in some instances. worthless is never ok.
That’s right everyone has worth, whther it’s worth to mock or worth to exploit, EVERYONE has worth.
Now I just think you trying to bait me by being an ass.
nopp heez sarcastic, but heez right. Some pipple are indeed use- and worthless.
Re-read what my post right above your’s and apply it to you this time.
nopp, you’re wrong on this one!
No there’s not a single nipple that’s worthless (well on a man possibly!!)
I was being serious though. In truth no one is worhtless, and yes some people’s worth is not necesarily a “noble” worth. You mean to tell me Paris (or Perez) Hilton have some worth to this world besides mocking? You mean to tell me that Octo-mom’s worth to this world isn’t to be used and abused by tabloids or TV? Not being an ass, being a realist.
You scare me! Do you read minds? My next comment would’ve stated perez as an example.
But then again, she’s worth millions, so worthless don’t apply.
You cannot deny them the potential. In both examples, they have potential. The goal is making it come to fruition. Our materialistic society is what made both of them possible.
It’s bad enough the way it is, don’t make ‘em come to fruition please!
Octomoms use is the give the forced euthanasia lobby and leg to stand on.
No, actually, the MILLIONS of lazy fvcks leaching off the government ARE the “social problem”. Go look up the crime rate before and after the “war on poverty”.
If you have NO money, NO brains and NO ability to get a JOB but pump out 5 bastard kids with 5 different “fathers” anyway, WHO’S FAULT IS IT YOU’RE “POOR”?
Boo hoo poor Muslims….if it sucks so bad to be here, WHY DO THEY COME? Maybe because they know the country is infested with liberals idiots who’ll pay them to reproduce?
Our country put them there to begin with. I say America needs to clean up its mess.
Ironically, the poverty rate was going down until the mid 60’s country wide. While the poverty rate was going down the crime rate was going down. Then the poverty decrease leveled off and has stayed about the same until today. Once the poverty rate leveled the crime rate went up and kept growing through the years as the people in poverty remained there. Correlation? I think so.
But there you go again talking trash about people’s brains a ability. I think anyone could be just as capable as I am and you are, but most of them have never seen that chance. Look up the “Cycle of Poverty”.
Or they could be fleeing persecution for being of a different sect. Or they could be looking for opportunities. And ironically, many of the immigrants we have now come to our country and work more than you do.
Many of the ILLEGAL immigrants come here and work tax free and send most of the money back to the 3rd world hell hole they came from. Most of them are too damn stupid to do anything but clean toilets, not exactly what I’d call “hard work”.The “cycle of poverty” is called pumping out kids you can’t PAY FOR and it was the government deciding to PAY PEOPLE to do it that caused it to INCREASE.
When criminals reproduce, the crime rate goes up, there’s a correlation for you.
See, you are too filled with just blind hate to be a use to our society. I will take my chances with that worker who is willing to clean your toilet and ship the money back to his starving family.
Correlation =/= Causation
Stats 101 Fail
I think in this case ADM…. you could have just said “Life Fail” and still have been right on the money.
“WHY DO THEY COME?”
I would say cause they have less chance of being wrongfully imprisoned or tortured to death in the USA, but….
What is so fascinating to a frighteningly large segment of the US population about wanting to perpetuate the social and economic values of the 19th century? I really don’t get it. I’m a temporary transplant to the US. I have options; I can leave at the end of my period here and return to a higher standard of living, a higher quality of life, a fairer and more socially and equitably balanced and significantly less violent society (which by the very loose and slightly demented standards of some very vocal groups in the US is considered **omg** socialist in nature – although the correct term is “social democracy”) and spend my remaining years wondering why so many people in a free society like the US are so passive and accepting of what appears to me to be an oppressive and individually humiliating social/economic structure…
B/C it’s a free structure not run by a government. A structure we can control. Choose whther to purchase a product, not forced upon us.
Take your arrogance and leave then. I’m quite content in my socio economic freedom. I don’t want the government giving me everything and paying 50-60% of MY income to taxes.
You obviously don’t understand the American mind set b/c you’re government was derived from thousands of years of a Monarchy, while our’s was the birth of TRUE DEMOCRACY.
I wondered when the “love it or leave it” bumper sticker would come out. That is neither the point nor an answer. As long as I am here and I am paying taxes and social security, I’ll have an opinion, thanks. I’m also not European, so that assumption goes out the window. My country is also younger than the US by about 130 years, so from my standpoint I’d say we are a “newer model”. Our government is run by the people. We vote..they do what we want and if we don’t like it we vote them out; so any benefits provided by the government that is elected by the people are provided by the people for the people. It’s democracy…try it.
Pure Democracy is simply mob rule. Something the founding fathers decided against. Ask yourself why.
Apparently we don’t vote people out of office. Wow that’s my mistake. I was under the impression that we had elections almost every year in this country. Guess the “I Voted” stickers I get are shams.
And our government will also do what the people wish. Once Health Care is passed, incumbants will lose, and the people will speak. Just b/c our people don’t want the same thing as your people doesn’t mean our governemnt isn’t of the people. We just don’t want our government to rule all. Hence the reason this country has grown and become as powerful as it has.
I thought the government funded and paid for all that exciting weaponry that reinforces superpower status?
One of the few jobs it is actually designed to do, by our Constitution.
Don’t forget JAC, there are many foreigners that do not understand, care to understand, or even know about our Constitution. In retort to myself we usually don’t care about other countries as well.
Which is why I framed that in an informative, non insulting way.
The government doesn’t fund or pay for anything. Every dollar that is spent by the government comes from money that it has collected or will have to collect from it’s citizens. That includes money that it borrows from other countries to pay for things because eventually we the people will have to pay that back.
PS: How long did it take for America to become a Super Power? Why you may ask, b/c of our spirit, our way of life, and our abllity to compete. Why is it rich europeans come to America for cancer treatment, burn treatment, HELL cosmetic surgery? B/c of our ability to grow and perfect b/c of competition that Europe sorely lacks.
Historically, it took 169 years. 1945 is generally acknowledged as the date the US attained superpower status.
Alright, how long did take for ANY other Super Power in the world?
“superpower” is a term coined in 1945 to describe the status of a nation in possession of nuclear weapons. As of 1945 there was one. As of 1947 there were two. It took the USSR 30 years to achieve the new status of “superpower” although that is very likely an invalid way of looking at it and it assumes the birth of the USSR as a “nation” began in 1917. More valid would be “world power” status, I think. “Superpower” is a bit like making a special category of sport for the Olympics comprising two or three teams of one each and having them play each other.
Anyway..it’s been fun and killed a few hours. I now have to go into work and explain to the minions that since, under Texas law, they actually have no rights, the company has decided not to pay them for their enforced 4 days of idleness over the Thanksgiving weekend…
Thanks all. As the man said..”keep banging those rocks together, guys”
A safe and happy Thanksgiving to all
The racism is horrible in Europe.
bwhahahahahahaha
I can’t believe you really just made that statement.
I like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.
Here’s a cookie.
(Snatches cookie away!!!!) “NOOOO!!!! its a soylent cookie!!!!”
Now he haz a sad…
No he had a sad before b/c he likes Rush and Anne. Hey wait if they get together can we give them a cool name like Russanne. Sort of like Brangelina.
Hmmmm. Rushanne. Almost like Russian. Almost…commie, dare I say it.
Hahahaha!!! Rushanne would kill you for even suggesting that! And please don’t insult the Communists like that.
Ya know… After my brain threw up on my soul and everything went cold, I felt a twinge of light in the darkness. Perhaps the breeding would bring out their recessive non-creepy traits and we get a halfway decent person. Probably still a loud jerk but with a soft spot…
Yea, I knew I had to be dreaming. Stupid lack of sleep. I think my brain needs to throw up again.
*gives DWN a brain bukkit*
*gives DWN brain pepto-bismol*
(…or is it cranio-bismol?)
Cerebro-bismol I think is what it’s called.
Looks like Ann’s sober for once.. but I’d have to be pretty tanked to pro-create with her!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
*pant pant*
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
*thud*
*cuddles ivan*
it’s ok. it’s not really happening.
*hyperventilating* WHY? Why would they taunt me this way? *hiding between shorty’s breasts*
don’t suffocate, mmkay?
*makes motorboat sounds*
i should have seen this one coming…
I wouldn’t be too worried. Odds are they’d eat it before the kid could do any real damage anyway.
OM NOM NOM
And well, they’re only ever going to have one (barring a multiple birth)!
“multiple birth”
Take that horrible utterance back right now!!! The horror!!!
Then they could get a TV show … like octomom!
Ya know, people like her and the balloon boy’s parents really make me think that parental licensing is the BEST idea we could implement for the sake of humanity.
OMG!!!! it turns out to be the president’s baby…what a twist!!!!! Rush goes on Oprah falls in love w/her and leaves Ann…. but what of the president’s and Ann’s secret love child?
I think we need to call the EMTs. Looks like you’ve hit your head and suffered some kind of brain damage.
EMT’s don’t know squat. Get a neurologist.
*Calls out for Dr. Eddie*
Apparently we have a brain surgeon on staff: Dr. Eddie is a graduate of the University of Joe.
After a brief examination, I have deemed this one hopeless and should be institionalized for the rest of it’s natural life. However, if some *cough* accident *cough* should befall the poor cretin, we could always use the ‘brain’ for research. We would truly like to know how something the size of a peanut enables someone to be able to type. Notice I didn’t say think, that’s not in the equation.
this is the brain under the glass case labeled “abby normal”, right?
You know, I’m a rather brilliant surgeon. Perhaps I can help you with that hump.
Igor: Dr. Frankenstein…
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: “Fronkensteen.”
Igor: You’re putting me on.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No, it’s pronounced “Fronkensteen.”
Igor: Do you also say “Froaderick”?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: No… ”Frederick.”
Igor: Well, why isn’t it “Froaderick Fronkensteen”?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: It isn’t; it’s “Frederick Fronkensteen.”
Igor: I see.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: You must be Igor.
Igor: No, it’s pronounced “eye-gor.”
(and i was worried no one would catch the reference!)
You left off the best part short!
Dr. Frankenstein: They told me it was pronounced Ee-gor
Igor: Well they were wrong, weren’t they!?
*sings, slightly off-key*
Ahhh sweet mystery of life at last I’ve found youoooo!
*plays the french horn accompaniment*
“Frau Blucher!” (horse whinnies in background)
*watches in “horror” as Voice of Unreasonableness’ wheelchair “accidentally” plummets down 5 flights of stairs*
That’s so awful! I just “let go” of it for a second while I smoked a few cigarettes!
*uses eyebrow tweezers to hand cretin brain to Dr. Eddie*
is someone in the wheel chair?… if not, sounds fun, I don’t get the “horror” comment. Is there a particular set of 5 flights of stairs you had in mind? I mean I guess if there is a wall at the end, that could be dangerous, but something like the capitol building steps with a pool at the end…sounds like good fun!!!!!
I’m surprised that neither of them burst into flames just by being in the same room with one another…
That would happen if either of them was in the same room with Nancy Pelosi and her swarm of flying monkeys.
*pulls out his tuba and begins playing the flying monkey theme music*
If Pelosi and Coulter were in the same room–just like matter and anti-matter. The universe would implode! *fft*
A little off topic but still physics and I thought this was sooo cool and freaky and scary.
*starts story with lit flashlight under chin*
Apparently, the quantum physics theory is the reason that the massive collider out in Switzerland isn’t working is because this “God Particle”. The very same particle for which they’re searching, the Higgs Boson, is so abhorrent to nature/the universe that events were created that have rippled back in time to ensure that the particle is never observed/create.
Wooooo. Scary.
Indeed, which is why physicists are boggling over it, because it’s the only particle in existence which doesn’t fit into the realm of relativity, which is the basis of all physics. The problem? No one since Einstein has thought “outside of the box” enough to come up with another theory that could work to explain how to extract the Higgs Boson.
Cool! Thomas Kuhn would approve of this discussion, as do I!
Kuhn would approve of this discussion if everyone else did.
You saw that on Colbert, didn’t you?
No. I read actual newspapers and magazines and listen to the radio for my information.
Sorry if I offended. I didn’t mean to imply you couldn’t have read it anywhere else. *I* thought the “oooo, scary” aspect, the “abhorrent to nature . . . rippled back in time to ensure that the particle is never observed . . . ” came from Colbert. Everything else I had heard of, but I thought that part was his sketch. I guess I’m the only TV-watching dumbass.
I want to be the kid’s godfather.
Hell’s spawn does not have a “god”father.
How do you know? Maybe you’ve got the whole god/devil thing around the wrong way
Afterall “history” is written by the winners.
Also I though angels and demons lacked genitals therefore lacked the ability to procreate? Was I misinformed?
somewhere i remember reading that angels bred with humans…they might have been the fallen angels. and their fall was because they discovered they had genitals under their robes?
Leapin’ lizards!!!
This is an image that will keep the stomach churning.
It probably would look like Al Franken…….
OH HELL NO! That would be the most annoying person on earth.
Their love child would be justacarolinian?
Minor correction: EWAdams.
I would rather be preached to than annoyed, so my first responce still stands.
What I’d like us all to go away with after the long and interesting discussions today is the correct spelling of the word ‘response’.
clever.
*GASP* The man smarter than God made a mistake?
I thought preaching annoyed you.
Well thats true….
So I guess what we’re looking for, does constantly arguing with you to get your dander up OR does preaching to you annoy you more? I think you answered it above, but I like clarification. Keeps me warm at night.
I am sure it does. Anything that could bother me probably would. Unfortunately, I have to much fun with the back and forth to really be bothered, especially since I haven’t seen you say a thing worth saying. And its ok if you share the same opinion back. Its the whole point.
What do you mean I didn’t say anything worth saying? Once again was this a nesting fail?
I mean that in the great scheme of debating, you have literally chosen the opposite of everything I have said. It was my little way of saying “thanks” for giving me a reason to say what I say.
Oh ok. I’m not saying the opposite just to say the opposite you know. It’s what I believe. Doesn’t make me evil, just like it doesn’t make you evil. We have differeing opinions. Glory of the 1st Amendment.
I don’t believe in evil.
So people who do truly bad things are just misunderstood?
But I believe in beer.. in fact, I can probably help sway your opinion of evil once you’ve seen my brother-in-law after a several beers.
*sings Don Williams “I believe in Love.”*
I believe in bad. Just not evil.
Speaking of bad:
I heard my mama cry, I heard her cry the night Chicago died….
cant get much worse than that.
*insert Micheal Jackson “Bad” pun here*
@jim: Oh yeah, I can.. try listening to Muscrat Love. You will want to commit suicide by the fourth bar.
I didn’t think two men could create a child, but leave it to Rush and Coulter to create one.
You shouldn’t copy other people’s funny comments and take credit for them.
DEATH TO THE PLAGIARIST!!!
Funny the Republicans are telling me that Obama will bring about the apocalypse. Now you’re telling me that it will be Rush and whoever the skeleton next to him is. I’m so confused now and don’t know what my name is or where I live. Oh I remember now, party worshipers who can’t think for themselves, and only follow the party line are going to bring about the real apocalypse.
No, Obama isn’t going to bring about the apocolypse. Hes far to busy being a satin worshiping muslin nazi from Kente to do that.
*is disappointed to be unable to find a cloth type that sounds similar to nazi*
I hope they actually do have a child…. it would serve 2 purposes:
1) Disgrace them both
2) The child would inevitably rebel and become a free-thinking, intelligent, well-rounded adult (or as they would say.. “a nazi, communist, socialist, liberal”)
Unless it turned out to be more of a Paris Hilton type airhead who neither party is willing to claim.
Rush and Ann, two of my favorites! We need more of them and Sarah, Pat, Sean, Mark Levin, our undocumented anchorman Mark Steyn, and the Cheneys (all three)!
what, not newt? how can you leave him out of your list?
She turned me into a NEWT!
(what? are you going to claim you didn’t think the same thing?!)
You don’t look like a newt.
ok viking, you’ve had enough, hand over the drugs, you’re starting to hallucinate
She got better.
In honor of Ann!
Muslim Suffers Bruised Ego in Fort Hood Tragedy – HUMAN EVENTS
Comments Muslim Suffers Bruised Ego in Fort Hood Tragedy
by Ann Coulter 11/11/2009
The massacre at Fort Hood last week is the perfect apotheosis of the liberal victimology described in my book “Guilty: Liberal ‘Victims’ and Their Assault on America.”
According to witnesses, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan entered a medical facility at Fort Hood, prayed briefly, then shouted “Allahu akbar” before he began gunning down American troops. Now I don’t know which to be more afraid of: Muslims or government-run health care systems.
President Obama honored the victims by immediately warning Americans not to “jump to conclusions” — namely, the obvious conclusion that the attack was an act of Islamic terrorism. As conclusions go, it wasn’t much of a jump.
But the mainstream media waited for no information — indeed actively avoided learning any information — before leaping to the far less obvious conclusion that the suspect’s mass murder was set off by “stress.”
The day after the slaughter, The New York Times ran one editorial and two of three op-eds asserting as much — which was at least one more than the Times usually runs about psycho-killer soldiers going on rampages.
Two days after the mass shooting, the Times’ laughably predictable headlines about the Fort Hood bloodbath were:
– “Preliminary Inquiry Finds No Link to Terror Plot”
– “Painful Stories Take a Toll on Military Therapists”
– “When Soldiers’ Minds Snap”
The Los Angeles Times jumped to the exact same conclusion, running an article on the massacre titled: “Fort Hood Tragedy Rocks Military as It Grapples With Mental Health Issues.” Time magazine followed suit, posting an article titled: “Stresses at Fort Hood Were Likely Intense for Hasan.”
Inasmuch as Maj. Hasan had never been deployed overseas, much less seen combat, liberals seem to have discovered the first recorded case of “pre-traumatic stress syndrome.”
Their point was: The real victim of Fort Hood was Maj. Hasan. Indeed, all Muslims were the victims that day.
The media quickly set to work assembling lachrymose accounts of taunts Hasan had been subjected to in the military for being a Muslim, the most harrowing of which seems to have been his car being keyed at his off-base apartment complex.
I suppose we should be relieved that liberals weren’t
claiming Hasan snapped because of the dimming prospects for a
health care bill by the end of the year.
The evidence for the manifestly obvious conclusion we were supposed to avoid jumping to is rather more extensive.
According to numerous eyewitness accounts, Hasan denounced the “war on terror” as a war against Islam, said Muslims
should attack Americans in retaliation for the war in Iraq, defended suicide bombers and said he was “happy” when a Muslim murdered a soldier at a military recruiting center in Arkansas earlier this year.
Stranger still, he wasn’t auditioning for his own show on MSNBC when he made these statements.
Hasan shared a “spiritual adviser” with two of the Sept. 11 hijackers, Imam Anwar al-Awlaki, whose unseemly enthusiasm for jihad got him banned from speaking in Britain, even by video link.
A few years ago, Hasan delivered an hour-long PowerPoint lecture to an audience of doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, arguing that non-Muslims should be beheaded and have burning oil poured down their throats.
He had tried to contact al-Qaida, and at least one U.S. intelligence official says the Army knew it. Despite being well aware of Hasan’s disturbing views and conduct, the Army did nothing.
Far less offensive speech has been grounds for discipline or even removal from duties in the military. In the aftermath of the Tailhook scandal, for example, two Navy officers were reprimanded and reassigned after putting up a sign with the words of a nursery rhyme altered to include a vulgar sexual reference to liberal congresswoman Patricia Schroeder.
But a Muslim Army doctor can go around a military installation somberly advocating the beheading of infidels, and the girls running the military treat him like he’s Nicole Kidman and they’re press junket reporters.
The Army’s top brass, Gen. George Casey, responded to the military’s shocking decision to keep a terrorist-sympathizing Muslim in the Army by announcing: “Our diversity … is a strength.” And I thought gays couldn’t openly serve in the military.
On Sept. 11, 2001, Muslims moved to the top of liberals’ victim pantheon on the basis of having slaughtered 3,000 Americans. Muslims were “victims” of Americans’ displeasure with them for the biggest terrorist attack in world history. The only American deserving of more coddling than a Muslim is the first African-American president.
So, now any dyspeptic expression toward a Muslim is grounds for calling in a diversity coordinator. And when the “victim” attacks, as at Fort Hood, the rest of us are supposed to feel guilty because Hasan’s car got keyed once. As with all liberal “victims,” it is the victim who is massively guilty.
Hey, fu(kweasel, next time post a fvcking link. Your comment has to be one of the douchiest things I’ve seen somebody do on here.
I talked to one of my friends from Russia today about you, thinking I may have been a little unfair. I asked her what she would think of an “adult” from the USSR using a hammer and a sickle for an avatar. Wanna guess her opinion?
Yeah, I didn’t think so.
You actually believe that I care what you or your supposed “friend from Russia” think of my use of a funny photo of a banana/carrot hammer & sickle? Oh, that’s funny. You’re more conceited & deluded than I imagined.
I find it funny that he decided to speak to someone in Russia about someone who apparently made him look like an ignorant ass on the internet.
You want butthurt? jim’s butt has all the hurt!
And he has a massive crush on me. He’s talking to his friends about me!
HOW’s got a booooyfriend! HOW’s got a boooooyfriend!
HOW and Jimmy, sitting in a tree..
HOW pushes him off the limb and saves humanity and gets to claim the tree as personal property.
ROFLMAO!! That was great. *wiping tears of laughter away*
I’m going to open the tree up for use by all of the PK irregulars. We can even have it moved to your lawn, Eddie.
YAY! Let there be shade, shade for everyone!
Careful, Eddie. That sounds very communist to me. Are you sure you haven’t contracted something Marxist?
No, God no! Shade is already free!
Bout time
*sits underneath the tree and opens his book*
Maybe I’ll be able to finish it uninterrupted here.
Enjoy the shade, but be advised, you haven’t been granted pool rights yet.. Oh, and the cooler is full so help yourself.
*sneaks up behind Max, bitter troll in tow*
*giggles and breaks out the cat*
Hey it’s not my fault! I told everyone I had a new suit on and was playing Towel boy but Janie pushed me in!
No, I decided to speak to a native Russian because upon reflection, I thought I might have been uncharitable. I took his words to heart and did care that I had offended him, perhaps unfairly. I had seen his hammer and sickle before, but had never engaged him in conversation. My assumption that he was young , a charitable assumption, was based entirely on the fact he would use a symbol like that at all. He considers that symbol to be funny, cute. Or says he does. An entire generation spent their lives in slavery in the USSR, and they did not have the option of leaving it. Yes, I know periodically Russia did allow some to leave. Those gains were hard won. But I would have expected those people to be grateful for the opportunity and not willing to belittle those who died trying to escape. Or to belittle those who respect them for their willingness to sacrifice everything to be free. If he believes in Communism, or Socialism, or wants to argue the minutia of Marxist doctrine as if it makes any sense at all, I wonder why he left it. It makes me curious to know if he would substitute a swastika for his hammer and sickle for a few months, perhaps a swastika made out of fruit. Something funny and cute. I would be very interested – if he was willing to consider it at all – what the reaction on this site would be, especially among those who did not know why he changed it.
Let’s see if I can wrap my head around your “logic”. You are comparing me to a neo-Nazi youth:
- Because I do not care what YOU think of me. Really?? I see no reason to care what you or your “Russian friend” thinks of me: you are an anonymous stranger, ON AN WEBSITE, who has zero impact on my non-web life. I highly doubt that you give a toss about my opinions of you. And if you do care then you I feel sorry for you.
- Because, apparently, I failed to show, what you believe is the correct level of caring for the Soviet Union’s oppression of its people. Obviously I’m cold hearted and you, in your care-troll guise, care more than the rest of us. What is the right level of “care” that I must show on a HUMOR SITE and when responding to your uniformed, prejudicial assumptions about my personal experiences? How quickly you forget that I was responding to a comment you made which made it sound as though the only way out of the USSR was in a body bag; that the only legitimate way, the only method that showed people’s desperation to get out, was to risk getting killed.
- Because I am using a photo of a veggie hammer and sickle as my avatar, which you find offensive and, according to you, I find “cute”. I don’t find it “cute”. The symbol has deep meanings (barring the negative connotations attributed to it): the unity between industrial and agricultural workers. That, to me is not offensive. I actually feel that this image, which I found and did make, has much deeper meaning than you’ve bothered to consider.
- Because I am a socialist. Seriously??!!! I came to the U.S. so that I could believe in whatever I wanted. We left a repressive oligarchy not because of the economic system. Once again, you have no idea.
- Because I have shown you to be an ass and ignorant about certain things. Get over it.
Yeah, based on your so-called logic I might as well grab a bat and start bashing Soviet immigrants on the head.
You have no idea how I really feel about being in the U.S. You just put on your care-troll mask because you were the only one offended by my avatar: “H.O.W hates freedom and mocks people who died fighting for it”. Puhhlease. Get over yourself. You’ve made assumptions that have no basis in fact. You know nothing about me, my experiences, and my beliefs (except my economic ones) and never will because I tend not to delve too deeply in to my personal life ON A FVCKING LOL SITE, especially with a complete stranger who is a judgmental troll. I have spent way too much on this. I am now bored and done with you.
Well, if you recall, you compared you to a white supremacist skinhead. That was how you started this conversation on the lol internet website with someone you dont know. I dont think you are cold hearted, but neither do I think you or many other people would find another symbol of oppression, a swastika avatar, amusing, or in your words “funny.” Something with deeper (positive) meaning. Nor did I say you were a communist or a socialist, I asked someone who keeps using socialist references (i.e. the unity of industrial and agricultural workers) and keeps a hammer and sickle avatar, if he believes in that nonsense. If you dont like somebody asking, dont bring it up. In this country, we do have the right to ask, to challenge. I never brought up your avatar until you engaged me with hyperbole. What you have shown is alot of anger when somebody disagrees with you, challenges you, or asks about remarks you have made. Yes, I was offended by your avatar, but I would have refrained from mentioning it; and no, I’m not the only one offended by it. I thought maybe I was over reacting when it offended me, so I asked someone else, someone whose relatives did die getting out after the civil war, if it was no big deal.
I guess you’ll continue being offended. There’s nothing I can do about that. I can’t control how you react to something.
No, I dont believe you care, I think that is why you use it. I think that was why you were so flippant when I brought up the border guards. I thought it might be just me that was offended by it, given the history of the USSR. I was relieved to know I hadn’t over reacted. For example, I can understand the use of swastikas by young people who dont really know better, they do it for shock value. But it would be an entirely different thing for somebody who was living in Germany during those years to wear it. Someone who, for example, explained nazism by quoting Mein Kampf. Especially if it wasnt long after the war. It is shocking and it is offensive.
*facepalm* Jim.. You moron. The swastika has been around for 3000 years. Just because a bunch of jackasses hijacked it does not mean that everyone who wears one does it for shock value.
Feel free to read about it [LINK].
Nice Strawman though, props on that..
Please.
*snort*
Very articulate.
And succinct. A twofer.
You allowed 5 minutes for a reply? Talk about impatient!
*taps foot* What?
Nope, he had two other replies during that time frame. I’m patient…very patient.
The others were more important. I know you can’t bear to hear that but it’s true.
Comment triage?
LOL. Yes! Da funneh is more important.
I was going to go into a tirade about your assumption, but I behaved myself.
Not an assumption. Based on your reaction – you got pissy and jumped the gun when I didn’t IMMEDIATELY reply to your post.
You some how have gotten the mistaken impression that anyone cares what you OR your Russian friend thinks.
Watching old Yakov bits doesn’t count as talking to a friend.
Yakov and his siblings Wackov and Dot are awesome!
Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooo, nurse!
Maybe you should consider seeing a P-Sychiatrist
I wonder why none of the cartoon/kid channels we have are currently showing Animaniacs. It’s brilliant, it is!
I dont have the mistaken impression that men of goodwill can disagree.
“…your aledgedly Russian aledged friend thinks” you mean?
Venial sin.
tl;dr
Okay, I have to ask: what?
*offers cookies for translation*
Too long, didn’t read. Thanks for the cookie! Would you like some tea?
TL – Too long
DR – Didn’t read
*holds out hands* There was something about cookies.
I’ll share, it was close enough to a tie!
You’re so good to me!
Yes, cookies for both! I was trying to make troll fit somehow…seemed the obvious choice.
Thanks
I’m listening to Rush 24/7 and reading Ann at the same time. Life is good.
Rush just played a cut of Nancy Pelosi:
Q: Madam Speaker, do you think it is fair to send people to jail just for not buying health insurance?
Pelosi: For a long time now, people who haven’t had health care or provided it…have placed a burden on others. Everybody is paying the price for uncompensated care. I dont need to tell you that in a hospital. And so what this is…is to say that we all have to do our part. And that is the point of the bill.
Q: But Madam Speaker, I’m just trying to understand. If you don’t buy health insurance you go to jail? You really didn’t answer my question.
Pelosi: Well the point is, um, there is, there is…uh…uh…uh…I think the legislation is very fair in this respect (i.e. yes).
Yes jim, we get it. You think Rush and Ann and Palin are apparently the end all, be all of American society. So glad I live in a different America where they’re nothing but pundits.
Jim is a troll. Doesn’t change what Pelosi said, though I would much rather find a better source for it.
Eh, not defending Pelosi at all, I think she’s one of those democrats we’d like to vote off the island. Her head’s far too big for her own good.
Just letting jim know that we understood a few lols back that his sources of information are not making him seem any more credible… Because apparently he thinks repeating it works.
I really DO have a problem with criminalizing the personal decision NOT to get health insurance. That, I have to admit, pisses me off entirely.
Indeed, I think that’s going overboard. But I am also looking through the freakin 1900 pages of the bill to find where it says you could face jail time for not taking the public option if you don’t have one. But, all in all, from what I have mucked through so far, you just get taxed an additional amount if you don’t have a private insurer and chose not to take the public option as well. In my opinion, since the public option will be taken out of taxes, it’s seems rather butt-headed to not just take the public option. It’s like paying for a warranty that’s included in your new TV’s price, and then rejecting it’s use. Just seems stubborn.
But jail time is very over the top.
Oh, the only thing I’ve seen is basically a fine (tax, whatever) but to me that’s still wrong. Although I can certainly see your point of view, I think it’s an encroachment on personal rights anyway. Fine with me to make an option available (I actually don’t have a problem with that…do I lose my Stinky Conservative Card? I know too many people with no real insurance options….), but don’t force people to take it if they don’t want to.
Well I’ve already stated that I’m paying $125 in premiums under my current plan. And that’s over 1/5 of my paycheck… so the government would have to hike up my taxes by over 20% to make it a loss on the public option. Which I highly doubt they could do without spurring an outright french revolution style revolt. The problem is, the dems aren’t putting forth numbers as to how much this could cost. If they’d just come forward and say “Listen, the public option will cause a 1.5% (2% or 5% even.. whatever number it actually is) Then everyone will be able to figure how much they’d actually be losing/gaining with the public option and it could really open some doors for acceptance. But unfortunately, I think you and myself are probably 2 of the 50 people in the COUNTRY that have actually read any of the bill. Chances are… half of those 50 people are on this board… and not the one’s voting on it.
I will say this though: Ive read over 700 pages into the bill… and although I haven’t retained all the information within, I will say that my ass feels less sore reading that bill, than reading the 2 page list of clauses and stipulations of my current coverage from BC/BS. And as before, unless they raise my taxes by over 20% for this ONE bill, I’d be gaining a a lot.
Yeah, we paid $6K last year in premiums and about $3K over that in uncovered stuff (co-pays, etc). And we are hardly ever sick! I’d much rather give the $6K to the government if I was guaranteed that losing a job didn’t mean losing our health insurance.
*kicks dirt, muttering — haven’t read bill, don’t wanna read bill, pay senators to read bill*
PS A friend’s husband worked for an insurance company writing policies and almost got fired. Reason? His explanations of benefits were too clear! True story!
Yeah, I make about $800 a month and pay $320 a month for health insurance. I would love not to pay that, but my medication alone would be about $400 without insurance. I also have a pre-existing condition so if I lose this insurance I might not get more. I would like to go to college so I can get a masters in library sciences but I don’t have much free time with my work schedule the way it is and if I cut my hours back I won’t have the money to pay for my insurance.
We criminialize the personal decision NOT to get car insurance. Is that acceptable? Because in both cases, it’s to ensure that expenses are paid if there is an accident/serious illness which exceed the individual’s ability to pay.
But many states offer the alternative of posting a guarantee (sp?) bond in lieu of insurance. I’m sure that would be acceptable.
See, Masaba, the difference to me is that with car insurance, we are criminalizing the decision to not carry insurance that covers damage WE do to OTHERS. With health insurance, not so much. The best comparison would be if there was a state requiring you to carry collision and comprehensive, not just liability. I don’t know of any.
You took the words right off of my fingers.
Not really the point I was trying to make. Without health insurance, someone — meaning, of course, taxpayers and/or other users of the same hospital — would have had to cover the six figure hospital bills incurred by my son’s ICU stay. So our having insurance protected those people against costs. That’s the parallel I was trying to draw.
So if people choose not to have health insurance and then run up these bills? Most people don’t have that much money.
Unless, of course, you are the aforementioned spawn, in which case I think you have a bit more serious problems.
Weeelll….I can see that point, although technically if you didn’t have insurance you’d be personally responsible for the next 500 years. But, then, bankruptcy laws and all…so yeah, the hospital gets screwed. But what about the fact that, if you’d been uninsured, you’d get charged X dollars (say for argument $500,000) and you’d be held responsible for the full amount, where, say, Blue Cross can tell the hospital “HA! Let’s make that, say, $200k…” and get away with it.
Where’s the reform for THAT?
You are absolutely right. Insurance companies hold down prices for medical providers (not Medicare, which bases its prices on what insurance companies pay). And it’s totally, freaking unfair! Especially the way they pay less than uninsured people have to.
I think the whole idea of for-profit health care is a bit insane. I mean, you make more money if you deny me care? How is that ever going to work well for me? (Don’t mean you personally, of course. I’m sure you’d bring me cookies and all that.)
Oh, I completely agree with you. I’ll probably lose conservative cred, but I think we screwed up when we put companies with a profit motive between patients and caregivers. Given that this has now become, well, a “given” in our economy, I think a single-payer nonprofit plan might well be an improvement.
A-HA! Now I’m taking your conserva-card. This gets me in at Disneyland, right?
You can be jailed or fined for driving without car insurance. What exactly are you being jailed or fined for if you dont buy health insurance? Living?
If you are mad that I called you Dudette one time, it was because I didnt know you were a guy, and I never had a guy say that to me. Ever. The only people who ever referred to me as Dude in the last few years have been women. I thought it was something new. I had been meaning to apologize for that.
I’m not mad at you one bit. You present yourself as everyone must accept what you say as if it were the word of God. And that doesn’t work, for either side. And there are some on the left end of the spectrum who do the exact same thing. And I speak up about them too.
And I give you the benefit of the doubt, as frustrated at how some will bash you just because your opinion is different. And it can be hard to communicate what you want to say. I know, as I’m not exactly the best communicator myself.
Rush does have some valid points, but his way of conveying them ruins it. I’ve only ever read one article from Ann, and it was right on. Didn’t have any venom in it either. I have heard some comments from her that were pretty nasty, so I don’t doubt what is said of her, to a degree.
When you declare Rush/Hannity/Beck/Coulter/ect…… to be THE source, all you do is show yourself incapable of researching for yourself, and look exactly like the crowd screaming “Faux Noise” or whatever Olberman and the like are shouting.
I’ve stated it before, and I’ll say it again. Most of the regulars have came in here with guns a blazing. Then figured out that most of everyone is here for fun, with a bit of discussion on the side. Though there are some who never had guns drawn, and some who deem themselves God on a daily basis.
Relax. Laugh at yourself, laugh at others.
After that ridiculous extended post he did, I don’t see any reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s a conservatroll. The kind that makes you guys look bad. Shun him, JAC! Shun him the way we shun Again, the liberatroll!
Well, I think he’s just trying to hard. And I could be wrong, and should I see troll behavior, I’ll call him on it as I do others.
I think I’ll go ahead and be trollish for a moment JAC when I say: Whatever Chick!
*sobs*
I’m only an on again off again lurker(though the last few days I’ve been reading and posting alot) but I didn’t come in with guns blazing. I do happen to have a claymore strapped to my back, a long sword in my hands, a rapier at my hip, a dagger at my other hip and a small knife in my boot. Also, Ich bien Gott!
No, the point is not that I like Rush and Ann, etc.; the point is I never brought the subject up first. I merely said something positive in response to something negative. But the are great pundits, and Rush is a great businessman too. You could say he saved AM radio.
Wow, you worship both Rush AND Ann? Have you ever had a SINGLE original thought in your life? “I’m not going to pee until Rush tells me it’s okay to.”
Ok, cheap shot time….. At least he doesn’t have to wait for the teleprompter to tell him when to pee.
I think a teleprompter would be a rational choice for personal instruction in this case… at least a teleprompter has never split a political party in two.
Give it a year.
My bad. I should have been original and agreed with you and everybody else. (hmm, how do I italicize “original” as I’m typing?)
You know, not only do I hate everything you believe in politically, I doubt I’d even be able to be in the same room as you. Many moderates/conservatives I’ve seen on here are decent folk. I could see myself hanging out with the likes of Eddie, froo, shortright, etc. You on the other hand are someone I’d probably steal soda from at work if you worked with me. You are exactly the type of conservative that conservatives hate because you guzzle the pundits’ kool-aid by the gallon so you don’t actually have to think for yourself. You sicken me. And frankly I think any given liberal is a far better American than you are.
No, I enjoy Rush and Ann because I agree with them. On the other hand, I wouldnt steal anyone’s soda even if I didnt like them. Even yours, although you seem okay for the most part.
Dammit, don’t be nice to me! I’m too much of a softie, I can’t keep up my meanness if you’re nice to me. *sigh* I don’t steal people’s sodas anyway. I usually bring plenty of my own.
etc? *is insulted*
etc is that shadow conservative you see sitting in the corner. He’s not a troll, just there to keep the peace.
Yeah, but I’m still left out….I’m conservative on…well, pretty much everything but sex. I’m extremely libertarian about sex issues.
So… your sex is asking for liberty? Or… your liberty is achieved through sex? Oh god… my head hurts..
Frankly, either one sounds plausible..
LOL…I will go with “both”.
No, basically my position on any sex issue (gay rights, premarital sex, whatever) is that your morals and ethics are between you and your partner and any God you accept, and as long as you aren’t fvcking on my lawn (or with my guy!) or hurting anyone in ways they don’t want to be, I really don’t give a shit.
If you’re on my lawn, I reserve the right to turn the hose on you.
Or…. join in? *wink wink* A-thank you!
Depends on my mood and the attractiveness of the couple on the lawn.
Jane and I? We are socialists after all and are here to “spread the wealth around”!
*takes pictures and takes off shells*
Dittos on the hose. And I agree with you, though I will say that I don’t want others ideals being forced on my children. Nor do I want my ideals being forced on other’s children.
I see passing my ideals on to my kids as my job; what they hear at school or on tv is my job to counter. Honestly, a lot of it’s just going to be up to them as individuals anyway….I’ve (so far) got one that’s gay, one that’s …scarily like her mother, and thank God married now, lol….and one that’s probably going to be at least 25 before she loses her virginity. (Well, maybe 30…). My son, I can’t tell so much. He’s still more into video games.
That depends, I’m a huge Sci-fi/Star Wars/Gaming nerd and I lost my virginity at 16.
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3e6Wy19jbo&feature=related}
Maxwell, I’m 16 and trying *not* to lose my virginity in some freak accident.
Note- If you want your kids to keep their “virtue”, keep them away from metal guitarists
“I’m 16 and trying *not* to lose my virginity in some freak accident.”
That’s hilarious … Now you’ve got me imagining all manner of “freak accidents”. I won’t elaborate … but it’s damn funneh. Thanks for the mental movies!
I have Star Trek tattoos and lost my virginity at 15.
The Star Trek tattoos came later.. But you get the idea.
Charro…if you were a guy I’d be all over you right now.
Unless it’s a Chakotay tattoo…Chakotay was a wimp. And should have hooked up with Janeway…/sulks.
For the record, I never Lost my virginity. I don’t know about the rest of you irresponsible people, but I know damn well what I did with mine. At the age of sixteen.
Amd your hands are still mad you never called….
” The first time I had sex, I was terrified-and I was alone!”- Rodney Dangerfield
DU – LOL, ok you have a point, I know full well what I did with my virginity.
No, it’s not a Chakotay tattoo. I have the Klingon symbol between my shoulders and the Borg one on my forearm.
{http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30355148&l=7bd30b03f0&id=1119451892} Borg
{http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30355149&l=7a2ad3d2e7&id=1119451892} Klingon
Charro: I can’t get to those pics … it said something about the content expired (?) . . . Can one put a time limit on the viewing of pics on FB?
Hmm.. I don’t know. I just copied and pasted the “public” link.
Got ‘em, now.
Dunno what it was. All kinds o’ weird happenings tonight, computer-wise. It’s probably me. Or the Thinkpad. Or the waning moon.
I’ve always loved the Klingon symbol!
Yep, no matter how you raise them, they will be who they are on the inside. And no parent can control that, nor does it mean said parent was bad, or had bad genes.
But environment and influence does play a part. One reason why you need to be involved with your kids at home.
*Teach, your children well* Huh? Oh.
Yeah. If you are can’t be the loving influence most respected by your kids, you have problems. I thank God for the relationship I have with my sons and step children.
Oh, shite, what was I thinking!
*Smacks Rando for leaving out Diss. Eyes the soda, but decides to leave it as jim may have taken a sip.*
I think Rando suspects me of stealing his soda…..
I know. Ect.. *sigh*
Hush up ya dirty liberal!
I stole this dirty liberal card from Rando fair and square.
You’d have had to steal it from Diss, she was holding it for him.
Hey, I saw Rando with his head in the fridge, and the card on the table. I figured it was fair game.
“Ect.”?
Is that a misspelling of the abbrev. of “et cetera”?
(Oh, now I’m a damn dirty liberal pointing out misspellings, again!)
It’s the abbreviation for ectoplasm.
Yes, etc. It covers everyone I forgot because I was typing fast. You’re still awesome, don’t worry.
Fair enough. I didn’t take your soda, I swear!
There are relatively few “conservatives” here, if they were conservatives, they wouldn’t spend so much time beating up other conservatives. Just as liberals seldom spend time picking on their own. In the few times I’ve been on the site I dont remember too many liberals beating up on Obama, yet a lot of “conservatives” spend an inordinate amount of time beating up on GWB, Rush, Ann. The liberals here do a lot of “pack” behavior, pretty nasty for the most part. Lots of name calling, vindictiveness. All the things they claim to be against. You would have to have a pretty thick skin to be a conservative on this sight.
So, do you think you have market cornered on conservatism around here?
No, but like I say, liberals dont spend a lot of time bashing themselves. It happens all the time to conservatives here. I dont try to spend time beating on my own team or believe a conservative needs to balance every opinion with one that attacks us. I forget who it was the other day that said something conservative, but qualified it first with saying he thought Rush was an idiot or somesuch. And I’m not talking about anyone in regards to myself, I looked at this site for a while before I joined in.
That was most likely me. Because Rush CAN be full of turkey stuffings. Even when he is telling 100% truth, he ruins it with the ego.
I described Rush to my sons (coming of age) as someone with a great deal of inside knowledge of the American political system, and often dead on with gold nuggets of the inside of the Democratic Party. But like the gold my dad and I found in a creek on family land, it was buried in so much rock, that it costs more to get it out than it was worth.
And don’t think I don’t get that Rush is attempting to piss certain people off enough to make them go research things. Or demonstrating the absurd by being absurd. But he is not as correct as he would lead you to believe. Just a casual listener, driving a courier truck, listening to the news radio for traffic info, I have noticed how often he makes descriptions or predictions on things that turn out wrong, or at best, incomplete. I’m actually surprised his enemies haven’t documented that.
But I do love the Paul Shanklin parodies.
And I forgot. He needs to be as insightful about the Republican party as he is the Democratic. Wrong is wrong, no matter the party.
Bit overblown, and he’s (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) one of the people who has pissed me off by blaming society’s problems on single parents. Problem’s not single parents (or of course more specifically single mothers…) Problem is crappy parents, whether they’re married to each other or not. I think one decent parent is better than two crappy parents. Probably better than one decent parent constantly trying to deal with a crappy partner.
Yeah, that was a backhanded slap. Last time I looked at that issue (being a single parent for 8 years) it was a statistical fact that even a bad 2 parent home had better odds than a single parent home.
I took it as a compliment, that I was doing better than a lot of 2 parent homes. There are very few things that make you feel better then when your kids are out of your site, and you get calls from other adults/parents on how well your kids behave, or what an honest thing/value you taught was done.
I really think he knows better, but it’s his choice to do so as a way of making more money, and a vain attempt to provoke others to thought.
I still find it personally insulting.
But…yeah. I know we’re the exceptions to the rule. *sigh*
I have found that the insults people sling at you in life tell you more about your good qualities and the faults of the one slinging them.
Remember Disreali: Lies, damned lies and statistics.
That statistic about ‘bad two parent homes’ is probably comparing apples and oranges in a big way. Most I’ve seen are.
Simple example: if you define ‘bad’ as abusive. kids raised in an abusive household are waaaay more likely to be abusive than kids raised by a single parent who leaves an abusive partner.
Of course, you can’t have any really good studies because the stupid kids won’t stay in their cages like good little lab rats. *goes chasing after straying subjects with stungun*
We generally avoid pundit devotion here. On the left we know Keith Olbermann exists more for entertainment than for serious political discussion. We tend to like Rachel Maddow a bit more as she’s not nearly over the top. But we seriously don’t like taking pundits that seriously because they do what they do for ratings, period. And on both sides ratings come from being nasty and vicious from the other side. Just because the conservatives here don’t all buy into Coulter or Rush or Hannity doesn’t mean they’re not conservatives.
Plus, this does tend to be a left-leaning website, so the conservatives who are thick skinned enough to make it here tend to hate the Republican or conservative sheep as well as the conservatrolls.
I’ll freely admit that I hate most conservative beliefs with a passion that gives me heartburn sometimes, but I respect the conservatives on here even if I think everything they believe is dead wrong.
Big difference between conservative and republican. The only “conservatives” that get thwacked here by others is the ones who only tote the party line, incapable of independent thought.
Party lines are usually based on overarching principals and are there to accomplish goals. The party whips and party discipline do play an important part in getting an agenda passed. I believe in the party line and core principals. Independent thinkers, or as I like to call them, loose cannons, do us in time and again. Take a guy like McCain, the notorious independent, he sank the republicans several times by doing something like the gang of 14 or McCain – Feingold. He was reaching his hand across the aisle at every opportunity. I dont see any Democrat doing that today. GWB reached across to the most liberal guy in Congress, Kennedy, to do the no child left behind bill, and Kennedy spent the rest of GWB’s term sniping at him. Do you know of any conservative Obama has reached out to?
Apparently as a socialist.. he’s reached out every single time he’s gotten a bill passed. Otherwise your republicans agree to socialist policies and pass them.
I dont know, the percentage of Republicans on any of these bills has been pretty small. Obama’s has been one of the least successful Presidents in terms of bi-partisanship, and that is not due to the Republicans. Obama has for know enough votes in the House and the Senate that he could pass any bill he wants without the Republicans. That he has had so little success says a lot about his bills.
“not due to the Republicans”?
For Pete’s sake, they started screaming in opposition to telling kids to stay in school. He could propose a bill to build the Reagan Memorial right beside the Lincoln Memorial, exempt all millionaires from taxes, and make Christianity the national religion, and they would vote against it.
As the link proves, the Republican leadership have become closet Marxists.
You can be conservative and still seek an open dialog with the other side. How else can you refine your positions and clarify why you hold them? Listening and debating only people who already agree with you leads to stagnation; while namecalling and acrimony are incompatible with civilized debate.
The conservatives here are definately conservative. And if you haven’t seen the conservatrolls here name calling then you really need to pay attention more. You can try to paint this in some kind of light that makes you the victim, but the truth is, we didn’t make you the victim. You’ve made yourself the victim, by letting yourself get bought into the hate, bile and vitriol spewed by those like Limbaugh, Coulter, and Palin. People with that mindset will not find any happy and open arms on this website. It’s a harsh fact, but if you do nothing but divide, insult, and lie, like they do, you’ll find no warm welcome here.
Right on Max. Just remember there are just as many on the left spewing the same one sided ideals.
And to be fair, very often we’ll tackle the liberatrolls too (the most notable example being Again, but there have been others).
Do not summon IT, Rando.
Pennywise?
A****.
True, and I think I mentioned that somewhere on this page today.
Oh, I include the guy you guys all pick on. I think I’ve seen him come on one time. But thats what I mean by “pack” behavior, hate and vindictiveness. It really seems cruel. Vicious. I went to a school small enough where we did not have cliques, but seeing that stuff gives me the impression of what it must be like in other places.
Liberals/Conservatives, Democrats/Reupublicans, Liberal Party/Labor Party they all suck. Let’s shoot ‘em all and let God try and sort ‘em out and while we’re at it we’ll add all the religious people too (though He/She would have His/Her hands full trying to understand what the fvck the idiot politicians are all trying to say)
I will say this though, when the most prominent Republicans in US politics are a couple of media commentators, instead of elected representatives of the American voters, then something is very seriously wrong with democracy in America.
Ugh. Please don’t give those two ideas. *shudders*
Limbaugh and Coulter are the scum between Lady Liberty’s toes.
And Obama’s hanging around her hemmorhoids…
That’s not a very nice thing to say about the Republican Senate leaders he keeps trying to persuade not to take their balls and go home…
I mean, isn’t the bipartisan thing to do to at least keep trying? Even if they have closed their eyes, covered their ears, and started screaming LALALAIDON’THEARYOULALALAEEBILNAZIHEALTHCARE, he should at least try.
Never happen. She’s not an underage Dominican girl; there’s not enough Viagra in his doctor’s sample cabinet to induce Rush to hit that.
Dude, there’s not even enough Viagra to induce the world’s biggest hornbag to hit that. Seriously. And even Rush Limbaugh has to be more discriminating than Bill Clinton, ne?
ZOMG I LAUGHED! Out loud, even.
nice article……
keep it up…….
Omg, their children WOULD have hooves!
Puketastic!
Who are ‘they’ and why are they intentionally destroying the US?
Oh dude….I’m seriously going to be sick thinking about…about…
Intercourse…and…nudity…with….ugh….
o_o *urp*
Excuse me. *runs off*
And this is why I hate lolnews. Nothing but a bunch of liberals who can’t come up with anything clever to say so they go about calling people names.
If you hate it so much why do you come?
I’m not a liberal and you’re still a twat.. how’s that work for ya?
bitter troll is very liberal and bitter troll loves you.
Awww, thanks man, you just made my day!
oops bitter troll dropped the soap, bend over and fetch it would you sweetie?
Rush is in for a surprise…