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Women’s Lib FTW!
I was thinking it’s a great place to live if you’re married to a moose (or 5 mooses?). You don’t get embarrassed in public. I reckon Prine Charles would love it.
That’d be 5 “meese”, I’ve been taught. ;p
Just five moose. :p
I like the way they even linked to the near identical lol we’ve already had of this exact same picture underneath.
I knew this looked familiar! Now we’re getting reruns of lolames?
That’s nothing new.
We’ve seen this, what, four times already? Stop voting this stuff up people!
The voters have rather short memories unfortunately. And for some reason, these same pictures seem to inspire many people in the exact same way (Jiffy Pop/Balloon Boy for example).
At least the jiffypop/balloonboy LOLs are somewhat funny. This is just stupid.
this one was funny the first time bitter troll saw it
retred of a retred of a retred of a retred
It’s like a Mega Man game…only not fun.
religion is epic fail
Your tolerance of others is the only FAIL.
Insulting ideas like religion is a victimless crimes just insulting political beliefs.
If I criticize communism I’m hardly intolerant of the people who support that political belief.
Oh shut up, you retard.
You have to have a brain to be retarded. I doubt this troll qualifies for even that classification.
I recognize this one. He pops in every time there’s even a hint of a religious discussion to throw in some snide comments about religion. He’s a douche.
Considering the name, it may be a joke. It’s hard to say for sure though.
No, it’s not a joke. 1984 *always* does this. It’s become more of a drive-by kind of thing, but this douche has argued it into the ground before. Can’t stand it really.
I am intolerant of intolerance! *disappears in puff of logic*
religion is good
people is what screws it up
good people make religion a good thing
doucheholes make it a bad thing, but they wanna do that to everything
doucheholes make a tastey sandwich bad!
To paraphrase Dogma, the problem with organized religion is that they (any given religion) took a good idea, and built a belief system around.
And I was sad when they stopped selling doucheholes at Dunkin Donuts. They were my favorites!
No, its not a very good idea. Its on of the first efforts to try to make sense out of this world and people still stick with it despite it being largely outdated.
No one would today accept Christianity if it was started today (well few). Because we know so much more today.
One of the best comments on PK, EVER. BT, you nailed it. Thank you sir. +1,000,000 interwebs for you, and 10 plates of chocolate chip cookies, a box of ice cream sandwiches, and all the deer steaks you can eat.
Bonus points to BT for being a genius. <3
Plus, this is basically the entire His Dark Materials trilogy in twenty seconds. I highly recommend it to basically everyone.
Fossilized thought, like religion, is usually not worth more than 5 minutes / day. Its the one dumbest of human inventions.
You shoot yourself in the foot with the personal attack(s). How big is your blind spot for not detecting it?
1984 is from Orwell’s book. The ultimate big brother being of course god.
At least in Orwell’s book your thoughts are private. But not to three Abrahamic religions when God can even read your mind. Even while you sleep. And you cannot escape it even by dying.
Ok. I see where you are going. But why the religion bashing? Isn’t your belief decision what frees you from the Big Brother State? Are you trying to liberate others? Because it seems like there would be a better way to bring people around to what you believe. Hell, I get attacked at nearly every angle, and I do my best to come across as a nice guy who loves everyone (which is true). But you are sort of the aggressor. So… what’s your end goal?
I don’t think I’m an aggressor. People are way overly sensitive when it comes to religion. It shouldn’t be like that.
Notice that I haven’t really attacked anyone personally. What I have done is more akin to attacking communism instead of attacking a person directly.
My personal beliefs do not liberate me when I live amongst religious people who wish to create religious laws here and there. The same is true for millions of others, all held hostage in theocratic regimes and sometimes political like in North Korea, a complete failed state. Now, if I say that NK is a failed state its hardly that I’m attacking all of its people, but again its rather about the ideology and its leadership.
In Ireland for instance there now is a blasphemy law. This assaults free speech and therefore freedom of thought. How far will it go, can a journalist even report how a priest has molested children?
A goal.. I suppose its the same as for many others.. I’ll quote someone instead to save a bit time:
“Meanwhile, the writer ignores the other essential fact of contemporary religiosity: that it seeks to impose itself, and its values, on me, and you, and everyone else in the public square. That’s why all the “new atheists” have come out of the woodwork. Thank God. – Ellis Weiner
Or to quote Goldwater.
“However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.But like any powerful weapon, the use of God’s name on one’s behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in “A,” “B,” “C,” and “D.” Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of “conservatism.”
I’m not any sort of conservative, or a politician but I feel very similarly.
Great argument. Try to make a good case for any religion. I’m listening.
I’m not sure my own response to this will be approved. So here’s a “lite-version” of it.
Some good things with religion:
1. It can give solace, meaning and guidance
2. Some people actually need it to behave more morally
3. A lot of people give aid because of their faith
4. Its a cultural thing, as well as social
Religion has contributed a lot to the social, cultural and economic development of most first world societies. Religion has also been used as an economic tool to exploit the gullibility of the commoners in favor of the elite.Religion has been used as a tool to maintain political dominance of the world order. Religion has been one of the biggest obstructions to scientific development and success. Medical science has faced some of the most disgusting attacks from religious fanatics hiding behind facades of morality and righteousness.Religion is now and has always been the cheapest and most effective way of controlling the masses.
Religion has also had a positive influence on humanity. This was especially true during the earlier years. Religion helped reinforce moral behaviour among people without the treat of divine punishment. You can run from the man whose house you just robbed but you can’t run from God or something along those lines. It also served to provide hope to people in desperate situations, giving them something to believe in rather than just giving up on everything. This is especially true for the elderly even today as belief in the afterlife provides comfort. I’m not saying that religion hasn’t done terrible things. Countless people have died in Holy Crusades, people have been murdered over religious differences but that doesn’t mean religion hasn’t had any kind of positive effect on Humanity
Religion can have both positive and negative effects on society.
A positive effect that religion can have on society is its support for those in financial or emotional need. This support is available from non-religious sources, but the organisation and focus of most religions enables them to contribute more readily than less well resourced and less well organised parties.
A negative effect that religion can have on society is often an increase in intolerance of diversity and of other beliefs. This can result in prejudice, overt persecution and even war.
While I agree with you, and don’t much like the fact that anyone in Arabian traditional dress these days is instantly labelled a terrorist, I gotta say the Burqa actually predates Islam and is not, as far as I’m aware, a requisite of the faith itself.
Aren’t the people in the pic wearing niqab and not burkas? The burka has the little grid thing in front of the eyes, don’t it? (Honest questions, I am not sure of my thing at all here. ;p )
The Niqab is the face veil part of the burqa. It can be worn separately with other clothing, I’ve seen it done around town now and then. However, these women are wearing full burqas.
Y’know, if they were Japanese we’d all be going “Cool! Ninjas!”
I am skeptical of this view, but I’m to lazy to debate it with anyone.
A case for this can actually pretty easily be made, but can be very time consuming.
And again, notice that I haven’t said that this makes all religious people bad or anything.
They are showing too much sandal and should be beaten immediately.
Yeah, the one in the middle is showing a little too much cheek for my taste. Slut.
Just remember the Rule of Thumb: don’t use a stick wider than yours to beat them.
Say Cheeese.
With your eyes.
Saaliha, scoot in. I’ve gotta make sure I get you all in the shot.
Being intolerant of other cultures FTW!
How is this different than being intolerant of others political beliefs? Or did I inadvertantly assume sarcasm in your comment?
No. Its pretty much the same.
The fact they decided it’s ok to all anyone wearing traditional muslim garb a member of the Taliban… That’s what makes this intolerant. Also, I’ve seen this one about four times already, so that’s not ok either.
At the risk of invoking the typical American response, this is pretty the much the typical American stereotype of the middle east.
I know, but that doesn’t make it ok.
You’re right. It doesn’t make it okay.
Not any different than the stereotype of the typical American…..
Yeah, you burger-munching invasion monkeys
(Kidding. If it makes you feel any better, I’m British and by your standards should have bad teeth, a ridiculously effete manner and a passionate longing for tea and cricket, which describes pretty much nobody that I have ever met in my life. Racial stereotypes suck.)
Yep, that’s kind of like that fried chicken and watermelon stereotype. After all, who doesn’t like fired chicken and watermelon?
Never been a fan of watermelon to be honest. It’s all water and no taste.
I HATE watermelon. Seawater tastes better that watermelon!
*raises her glass of Pimm’s for a toast*
I don’t tolerate a culture where degrading women is the norm.
If the women were so unhappy, they would do something about it. It’s part of cultural evolution. Each society has to do it on their own. It’s something that can’t be forced. It’s already starting to happen in the Middle East in a lot of places. It’s still part of their religion, heritage, and culture. Who are we to judge? All we can do it support them when the time comes, and that’s socially speaking, not militarily.
Honor killings are a part of their culture? I don’t think so. And, yes they are very unhappy, like a battered woman is unhappy trapped in a marriage to an abuser and is afraid to do anything about it.
Actually, honor killings are a part of their culture. Just like lynching was here. No one is proud of it, but it is their culture. And as I said before, if they are unhappy they will do something about it. Remember when women here were to stay in the home and could be beaten by their husband? Women’s lib isn’t free, but as I stated before their struggle has to come from within. If we from the outside try to force it, it will just have an adverse affect. All we can do is hope for them, and support them when the time comes.
Remeber apartied and South Africa? We didn’t just say it’s part of their country. There were boycotts and protests, why was that any different?
Because we didn’t get oil from South Africa, but we do from Saudi Arabia. Like it or not, politics come into play whenever our government is looking at who to be friends with and who to scorn. Don’t fall for the government’s BS, we have a long and storied history of supporting oppressive regimes when we find it convenient.
Well, you may have a point there.
Some of whom we then turn around and end up fighting a little later. Ironic, isn’t it?
First off “oh please” adds a lvl of a-hole right from the start. If you are gonna debate with me, keep it to the point. As far as lynching was concerned, I suppose it depends on who you consider to be mainstream. Secondly, the point is there have been plenty of times that Americans have killed Americans. Just by saying that someone from a different place killed someone doesn’t make a point. Second, no one ever said that their culture was great. I think what you miss about my second point is that in many of these foreign cultures we are the worst type of sinner imaginable. We eat, drink, and live in excess. We idolize movie stars who most of which get famous showing off their bodies, and we idolize material possessions. To many of their religious ways, we are nothing short of the great Satan. If we go in and try to say that we are right, and their culture is evil, and they should change, it will have a horrible backlash. Instead of loosening their grip, the culture there will have an excuse to tighten it. It will ruin the progress that their women have been making up until this time. Now I agree that we don’t have to like it. I would agree that we can try to influence as much as we can. But the fact still remains that the struggle of their women has to come from within or else it’s just not going to happen. No amount of American intolerance is going to change that. In fact, the more we openly oppose it, the more it’s going to seem more just to them. We just have to be careful, supportive, and let the social evolution take its course.
I don’t know how I feel about us going over there and forcing our belief structure on them, as wrong as I think theirs is, but I think what they do to women is deplorable. It’s really a no-win situation because if we go over just to impose freedom, we won’t be heroes to them. In fact, we’d likely be roundly denounced around the world for our intolerance and for forcing our culture onto others yet. On the other hand, hearing about they way they treat women over there makes me very angry. I do think it’s very dismissive of you to call it “just part of their culture.” Killing and abuse should never be “part of their culture.” That’s sick. It should be changed. I just don’t know how.
We could start a war an invade them! Then we could set up a government we like and we can force them to change! Oh, wait… we already did that… hmmm…
Umm, did anyone actually read what i said? Did I say to go over there and stop them? This is a lol FCOL and VNV was insinuating we have no right to critisize.
Honestly, n00bs, I wasn’t paying any attention to what you wrote. I was being more critical towards VNV and his “it’s their culture” references than anything, and the no-win situation of dealing with what goes on over there.
Oh, sorry
Considering VNV was the primary responder to your post, so he may have read it and gone on a little rhetoric about his views rather than respond directly. After that, Rando responded to VNV and I to Rando. So only VNV actually responded to your post at first. I did so later.
D’oh!
First off VNV, don’t tell me how to debate, I, like you have often said, will do whatever the hell I want. Now, that being said, yes Americans kill each other, they are punished for it. What happens over there is condoned by the authorities, we have nothing like that here. There is no one speaking up for those people. If no amount of American intolerance is not going to work for them, why did we bother with South Africa? Why do we bother with Tibet? Hmmm?
When a group of women can’t read, write, vote, have their own bank account, say ‘no’ to sex or to being beaten, have a job, keep their daughter from being murdered by family members for talking to a young boy…and they have to do all of the cooking and laundry from scratch, with a body exhausted from childbirth. Um, with what energy are they supposed to revolt against the current culture? Most of the educated Afghani women left the country with their families when the Taliban took over. Some came back, but are having trouble getting a toe-hold in Karzai’s warlord-dominated government. I’m not holding my breath waiting for that women’s rights revolution…
Also a wonderful point.
It may be completely wrong, but I can’t help saying this. Guns are a great energy saver!
“If the women were so unhappy, they would do something about it.”
This view is why women all over the world are being abused, beaten, and killed in relationships that they don’t know how to get out of. And it’s very chauvinistic of you to think that the women have ANY power in those situations, much less the power to leave.
To be honest, that statement rubbed me the wrong way as well. :-\
Funny, because I feel it would be sexists of me to think they have none.
Speaking from having been in that situation, you don’t feel as though you have any power. You want to get out, but you can’t. You’re stuck between what you think is love for this person who is abusing you, and the knowledge that you’re better than the way he treats you. Also, when he treats you bad he always apologizes and says it won’t happen again. Then when it does, and you want to leave, he threatens to take things away from you. Your dignity, your children (should you have any), and sometimes your life or the lives of your family.
In a completely male-dominated society that they’re dealing with over there, the women truly don’t have any power. It’s not as simply as “if you don’t like it, leave.” Those women would be killed, their children would be killed, or worse, they would be abused to the point of death and then left in that situation forever.
This is one reason why the Middle Eastern fundamentalists don’t like the United States and Westernization. We’re teaching their women that they have a choice, and that makes us the Great Satan. It’s not as simple as a social movement. These women are kept ignorant for a reason.
Of course the first step is for them to see that the way they’re being oppressed is a problem.
If all your friends and neighbors get the crap beat out of them on a regular basis (for example), it probably seems normal to you. That’s one reason why domestic and child abuse tends to run in families.
I’m sorry you had to go through that, froo.
I certainly didn’t post that for sympathy, but I appreciate it. *hugs*
But people who reduce the entire situation down to “well then just leave!” annoy the hell out of me. It’s never that simple!! And Diss is completely right when she says that the culture dictates that these women can’t leave because they don’t know any better.
I know, but my stepdad was abusive, and a family of fear is no family at all.
Well…bless you for not passing that crap on to the next generation. *hugs*
*hugs froo, too*
I’m sorry for that. But really, if you’re a christian (I might be assuming wrongly) how is it to being told that you must fear god and love him at the same time?
If god exists he has a VERY abusive relationship with his own creation.
Sexist isn’t the right word. Naive? Maybe.
And by “do something about it” I don’t mean “one woman versus one man”. I mean as a social movement. It will happen. It -is- happening now.
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I can see both sides of this — we need to support the women who ARE trying to do something about this (like Sima Samar), but we can’t assume it’s something we can do FOR them.
You’re absolutely right, Diss. You can’t force a woman to leave, you can just show her that there really is a better way.
Don’t forget there are men in abusive relationships too. I did some research on criminal domestic violence, and it would shock you how many men take abuse for years out of the fear of public scorn. And a female leading Harvard professor (It’s been 10 years, I can’t remember her name) said her research showed that the majority of cases where women were killed, it was a man that was being abused, and finally snapped, lashing out in a rage and killing the woman.
Let me be on the record that it sucks anytime a spouse or child is abused. Period.
I’m of the opinion that the sentence for any type of spousal or especially child abuse should be death, but then I’m a big ol’ fascist.
I don’t. I think those people should be put in prison with a big ol’ sign on their orange jumper saying “spousal/child abuse” and the guards should just look away while the angry inmates let them know what they think of that.
Or that too
Weird code of conduct among the prisons, but I likes it.
Just be careful, it’s easy to falsely accuse someone of that. SC had to change the law about 10 years ago, as it was found to be abused by those who simply wanted revenge. All you had to do was accuse the other of raising their voice in an angry way, and it was off to jail.
Which makes it even harder for the truly abused to get help. Jerks.
Yep. Good thing I believe in Reaping what you Sow. It DOES catch up to the abusers, sooner or later. The guy that wrecked MY car, and killed my sister wound up dying of some bone cancer, took painful years to die. I found out about a year after he died. And it’s not just that he had an accident, he was drunk, and talked my sister in letting him drive my hopped up Beetle, went in to a 30mph curve in excess of 80mph, then lied to the cops and said he wasn’t driving, and tried to sue my dad.
I don’t WISH bad things to anyone, but when the bad people get what they deserve, I’m content.
*hugs justa*
Too bad it often waits until later, but…
Also too bad that some nice people can’t seem to take a break. Ah well. If we could rule the world!
The you would be on VNV’s cabinet…..
I think God makes us wait on those things to build up our strength and patience, and to give the offender a chance to change. Which is something I would rather have happen.
Agreed. Former jerks are a good thing.
It’s probably NOT something we can do for them. In fact, our involvement would probably set them back. As much as we want to help them, frankly they hate us for the most part. We probably can’t do anything directly. Which is unfortunate, because many of the things that go on over there aren’t right.
Too late for that. We made them eligible to vote, that’s how it begins. I’m not complaining, I’m just saying that we’ve already interfered directly.
We haven’t done that to the entire middle east, though.
We probably won’t, but the idea is to establish the ideology in one country and let it spread to the others. Ideas travel along with people, so we’ll probably begin to see it spread in about a decade or so, assuming it catches on in Iraq.
I’m all for planting the seed and letting it grow. Forcibly trying to change them makes us the bad guy, though.
You’ve got to dig a hole to plant the seed in. In this case we needed to force it into a government, and since we were rebuilding Iraq a lot of politicians decided their government was a good place to start forcing parts of our culture on them in hopes it would spread. This has been done before, the best examples are post-WW2 Japan and South Korea after the Korean War. Judging from those I expect the attempts at spreading our culture into the Middle East will fail spectacularly, as they did in other places.
I don’t think its right to label civil rights as part of a culture, food, language, things like that are culture. Abuse, no.
They shouldn’t be, but humans aren’t rational beings. People with power want to keep it, and eventually the justifications they make for their oppressive behaviours spread to other regions. Eventually it becomes part of the culture of the area. Also, the Judaic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) don’t have a very high opinion of women… nor does any modern religion I’ve seen for that matter.
The issue, n00bs, is that religion is so intertwined in culture there, that human rights do become a cultural thing. Which is sick, I’ll agree. I don’t think it’s right either, but they do that there. How much of the law & culture of middle eastern countries is based off of religion?
We definitely don’t want to force anything, but if we are constantly told to keep our mouths shut because we are being intolerant to someones culture then no see will ever grow.
It’s a very difficult position to be in, n00bs. I think most of us feel like any involvement in changing human rights in the middle east would be altruistic, but we’d probably be the only ones who felt that way. Due to our reputation for interfering with other cultures, our help would not likely be that welcome. “Freedom whether you like it or not” isn’t a particularly popular idea.
Intolerance trolls are by far the most annoying of all.
OMG, that’s an awful way to look at it… Kind of like seeing a child getting beaten and looking the other way because it’s none of our business…
Do you really think if we went over there and forced our values on them it would actually work out? More than likely it would be greeted with rebellion and anger. That’s NOT the way to go about it.
Rando, now apply that thinking to those who aren’t gang busters for socialism. You can’t force an ideology on anyone.
When did I ever say I was going to force socialism on anyone? I’ve said repeatedly that I doubt pure socialism would work in almost any country on a national level (perhaps in smaller societies, but not in a big nation). All we’ve ever seen in this country are tiny bits and pieces of it. Unlike VNV, I’m not seriously trying to shove socialism down anyone throat. I’m more realistic than that. I support the ideology, but I know it’s just a pipe dream.
I’m sorry if I didn’t say that clear enough. I know you aren’t forcing it. I was simply expressing the thought of how people feel about it. That’s the primary reason I’m all for individual liberty.
And the passion and anger it stirs would explain a lot of the emotional signs with poor spelling.
Ah, okay, now I see what you’re saying.
‘In olden days a glimpse of stocking
Was looked on as something shocking,
But now, God knows,
Anything Goes’
Let’s not forget that our culture is not all that far ‘advanced’ from theirs when it comes to dress codes. And if we want them to adopt our enlightened western ways we should lead by example rather than force the issue. The middle eastern countries I’ve been to are pretty westernised anyway (Coke, Pizza Hut,shopping malls etc) and you can’t blame them for wanting to hang on to their culture.
It’s not about changing their culture, it’s about human rights. Remember those? Like I said below if it’s the woman that chooses to dress like that then it’s her business. But if she is forced to wear a tent, not allowed to go outside, not allowed to work, is killed if she is raped, then that’s human rights violations. It’s very simple.
Oh, and it’s not fair to say it’s her choice to be forced and/or killed.
That stuff takes time. Western culture has changed a lot in the past hundred years.
And like I said n00bs, the more we try to force the issue, the more they’re gonna resist. Plant an acorn of change because trying to shove an entire forest in there at once is gonna fail.
(ZOMG I SAID ACORN!!)
I don’t try to force socialism down anyone’s throats. In fact, I would say I am on the same level of optimism toward what i believe as many of the right winged or left winged posters here. It just so happens that what i believe has been painted as “evil” and so i have a lot more people fighting back a lot harder than just ’stupid liberal’ to deal with. I don’t really care who agrees with me. I just like to debate.
Well, try to sympathize with those who are held hostage by pure superstition. How would you like it to have to cover up your “non-perfect” self so that men can control their sexual urges?
I don’t think cultural differences are about what I like. I think they are about the environment you live in. There are plenty of things about my culture that I don’t like, but all I can do is wait for a peaceful opportunity to show people a different way. And even then, it’s up to them if they take it. I can’t force anyone to do anything.
I think at least most reasonable people agree that religion should be a personal choice. Secularization of the west is one of the best ideas of the last 500 years (I’m unsure about the age, it at least took a long time before it was put in practice)
It liberated millions.
Many say that these Burka’s and such are cultural. That may be true, but it was adopted by religious people and now has become something of their own (just like pagan ritiuals and holidays became christian) There’s a strong urge from the religious (not all by any means, but if you read the scriptures..) to control women… and I strongly resent that.
So while this picture is funny its to me also very tragic.
Culture and Religion are sometimes synonymous. I do not agree with the oppression of any group of peoples (except for the Bourgeoisie elite) and I also resent how those people are treated. So I am not sure where you are going with this? This picture is both funny and tragic.
Well, we pretty much agree then..no reason to discuss further.
Perhaps, but since I got you, I might as well ask. What’s your gimmick? Obviously there is the Orwell reference of 1984. And you seem to very anti-religion. Could you tie the two together for me? For instance, is your name a warning or some kind? Or showing what happens when religion exits? I have never been a big fan of Big Brother. So… clear it up for me!
Sure. Big Brother in Orwell’s novel could as well describe light variant of a God. So I don’t mind if people make the 1984 –> God connection but its not the main reason for using it as an alias. First of all, its a book which I very much enjoyed (although Isaac Asimov had good criticism against it)
Its something which I quickly can type down and easily find responses to by using ctrl+f.
I’m not anti-religious to the extent that I wish for it to be banned. I don’t even expect religion to ever die out, as I think it might something very natural which developed through natural selection. As a sort of primitive coping-mechanism. I think however that its time we outgrew it.
But I would support secularization at any place, preferably through peaceful changes (not the barrel of a gun, where the goal often is something else).
I don’t always comment on religion btw, I’m mostly into politics and music online. It often humors me how one can make very harsh comments on political viewpoints and no one lifts an eyebrow, but if you mention religion all hell seems to break lose if you pardon the pun.
I guess part of the reason I’ve begun to speak against religion is personal, I’m simply tired of hearing that I’m immoral or that I will go to hell because I don’t buy into something which lacks evidence.
I try to live after this:
“A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence.” David Hume
I started examining the rest of the picture to see what was so special about this place for them to want a picture, and all I can see now are the two guys in red shirts.
But those guys are…no…I’ve said too much already.
*skulks away*
that is in downtown beirut, lebanon…A lot of saudi arabian tourists come by each year. Its ironic because lebanon is the paris of the middle east…very liberal and the second-greatest party city in the world
What is the greatest party city in the world?
New Orleans.
Duh, it’s Gitmo.
Is that why Obama keeps waffling on closing it down?
No, that’s because he’s a politician and he wants to know how people will react either way without committing to anything. It’s a common political tactic employed to try and remain popular with the public.
And he’s pancaked between two opposing groups.
Mmmm…pancakes…baaaconnnn…
Dude, Rando was joking! Take a chill pill once in a while. All this intensity/stress can kill you.
Rando was half joking. I am pretty annoyed with how he’s handling the Gitmo situation.
Well, it’s failing right now. I was happy when he said he was closing Gitmo, and really annoyed when he started waffling on it. I’m not happy with his so-called exit strategy out of Iraq either, nor his revving things up in Afghanistan. See, righties? I don’t worship Obama in the slightest. In fact, he’s pissing me off right and left lately.
It’s butter not to get all syrupy about him.
I dunno, pitty, I bagel to differ.
Way to cheese people off, Rando.
It lox pretty bad, actually.
I donut know what I said wrong. :-\
Nuts to you man.
If you don’t know I won’t tell you. I (d)eclair!
It’s best not to bialy half-baked about it.
Hmm. I would have guessed Fargo North Dakota
Only during winter.
damn, and i had my money on nome, alaska
*fighting urge to post Johny Horton’s North To Alaska video*
Cheyenne, Wyoming?
Its actually Vegas
i bet thats all of his wives, could be a very expensive days shopping for him
cmon angie, thats a bit racist…
And apostropheist. What’s wroooong with throwing in a bit of the old inverted comma once in a blue moon? Eh? EH??
how the heck is shopping racist
It’s not, he must have been joking…
I don’t think bedsheets are that expensive if you buy them at Walmart or Target. Not sure how many black sets they have in stock though.
And you can save money on Halloween costumes: “Booooo! I’m a sooty ghost!”
Or a ninja!
Do they have Target in Beirut? If so, that’s awesome.
SHOPPIST!!!!
Just as a point of fact, these our Saudis, not Afghanis and have nothing to do with the Taliban. If we’re going to insult other cultures, lets at least name them right, mmkay?
Your Saudis and mine? I didn’t know we owned any.
he he he, they pretty much own us, if anyone is doing any owning..
I don’t know, I would have to say the Chinese own us if anyone. Have you seen how much money we owe them?
*looks at little American flag my kids have* “Made in China” Yeah, that about sums it up.
I’ll overlook the grammar error and just say this. You do realize Osama Bin Laden is/was from Saudi Arabia right? Seems like they’d use home time girls for his calender.
Home town girls* My grammar sucks too!
I love those Engrish Home Time Girls!
in casy noticed i called them saudis. and no, tey dont have anything to do with the Taliban
Don’t tell anyone but that wasn’t really jiffy pop in the last picture either.
Your kidding me right?
No it really wasn’t
Why are all Muslims all of a sudden Taliban?
Burqas are a different color.
…relevance?
Suadi burqas are black, Taliban is blue if I’m not mistaken.
Hmm, I never knew that.
They color code them now?
Can you say heat stroke??????
Nah. They are naked underneath.
What a cheap thrill that would be!
Y’know, for a garment that’s supposed to completely de-sexualise women… knowing this makes it have the opposite effect on me!
2 years later one asks “..Erm…Wich one was I again..?”
“Who is that in the picture? Tell us in the Comments.”
Really?
I can’t help but think that they had to have laughed when they put that in there
Now that was funny lowly lol
Well, it’s Stacy, Allison, Jennifer, Barbara, and Katie.
Tag your friends in this photo on Facebook!
“Dude, what did you do to the tagging? I’m on the RIGHT, not the MIDDLE?! Can’t you tell which one is me?!”
The second one from the right is obviously the hottest.
You can tell the one on the left is the wild one. She is the only one with white stitching. She probably likes to flash her ankle when no one is looking.
They are showing hand skin, I am appalled !!! And the stitching, evil I tell you just plain evil……
Whoooooa, hand skin? What is this, a porno?!
…I actually like their outfits.
Oh, you crazy Goth kids…..
Ninjas. We’re ninjas. *whoosh and is gone in puff of ninja smoke*
Go ninja, Go ninja, GO!
Goth ninjas. They kill and then cry about it.
That’s emo. Goth is more of death appreciation than a sad appreciation. Goths kill and then dance.
goths dont cry, goths laugh at your pain and poke you with a stick.
emo = sad
goth = happy
And then smoke a Clove, and then dance.
Fvcking nanny state banned fvcking cloves….
For real?! Those goths getting to crazy again?
Courtesy of Obama and the FDA.
Am I the only one who thinks that’s kinda funny?
I read it and I still can’t tell. What does that bill DO exactly?
Well, they probably never have to look at a closet full of clothes and say I have nothing to wear!!
I am usually very tolerant and open minded about most religions. But burquas just p*ss me off. I sorry but it makes being a women something shamefull that needs to be hidden away. No self-identity just a glob of fabric. I believe in modesty but this is an ugly mysoginistic (sp?) practice that should be banned in this country.
“No self-identity just a glob of fabric.”
That’s not true. The idea is that your identity is not based on your physical appearance but on your emotional, psychological, intellectual, professional, etc. development. To base your identity on your physical appearance is what’s misogynistic.
“I believe in modesty but this is an ugly mysoginistic (sp?) practice that should be banned in this country.”
And if your preferred method of expressing your faith and beliefs were banned would you say the same thing? Furthermore, in many countries, most Muslim women are the ones that choose to wear all of the different types of hijab. Women in Egypt are currently protesting a ban on the wearing of the niqab (the full head & face covering see in this lol); they resent the government telling them what they can & cannot wear. These women have chosen this for themselves, which is actually kind of feminist if you think about it. You’re imposing your values on cultures you may not understand.
I disagree, how you dress and carry yourself is very much part of one’s identity. Not all but a big part. And I would say an even bigger in your professional developement. I would not want to work with or for someone whose face is hidden from view. No I do not base my entire identity on my physical appearance but I do not think it is a shameful thing that must be hidden from view.
You are right about religious freedom however I question whether or not those women are truly free. If wearing that thing is a choice why are they beaten and punished if they do not?
You’re inferring that the entire Middle Eastern bloc treats their women like dirt if they take off the burkhas. They don’t. For some (as pointed out below) it really is a choice to keep them close to their heritage.
Most have not been given a choice, if they stopped they would be arrested or stoned.
That’s not true. It depends on which countries you’re talking about. Egypt and Turkey have civilian, democratic governments and women can wear pretty much whatever they want. Countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran are under Sharia law and do govern things like dress code. There are countries, Nigeria for one, with Sharia law that don’t bother with things like dress.
That’s true, there are countries like that. I have no objection to women wearing whatever they want as long as it doesn’t interfere with ones work or laws of the country, it’s when they don’t have a choice that bothers me.
Then why didn’t you say that to begin with?? Instead of spouting gross generalizations about the Middle East, Muslims and Muslim countries and their treatment of women?
Why are you denying it? I already said it’s not all muslims, what more do you want?
Well, you didn’t answer my question and that’s what I wanted.
But I did answer your question, I said it upsets me.
yes thats what i think as well, wemon should dress how they like and look beautiful ban this dress code.
yah mon.
My wemon is dwessed in a beautifuw yewwow skin and makes my tea dewicious!
When I eat enchiwadas I like margaweetas with swices of wime.
Mmmmm…wimes awe wovwey! Wimeade is my favowite!
“I am usually very tolerant and open minded about most religions. But burquas just p*ss me off.”
You can keep being open-minded about religions then, because the burqa is not a prerequisite of islam, but rather a cultural thing.
Aw, racism. Hilarious!
Grow up.
OMG, that one brazen hussy in the middle is showing her TOES! Quick, stone her!
Man Petting a Squirrel
what i find funny, is when they get older and theyre going through old photos theyre not going to know whose who…
This is for the next edition of Burka Bitches in Heat
Alright I want to see some eye lids.
looks like photoshop the burka on the left is clearly one color
“Who is that in the picture?”
Seriously? It’s not your standard “these are my wives at the Mount of the Rock” photo?
Yes, because all women in burqas are connected to the Taliban? What ignorance. Burqas are an (arguably misguided) expression of religious belief, just like yarmulkes or cross necklaces.
I thought taking photos was against muslim religion…