One person in this picture
One person in this picture is a real leader.
And he’s not checking his watch.
(George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Abraham Lincoln)
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Yeah, but none of them are in charge now!
That’s right, I’m in charge.
Al Haig, is that you?
Thanks for the Taco Bell heartburn I got yesturday from your subliminaly Taco Bell suggestion yesturday.
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Sorry ’bout that! Tums?
I also had Taco Bell last night because of diss. It was tasty. I luvs me some bacon chicken ranch gorditas.
It was delish, but I spent the evening singing the “Ring Of Fire” Blues. I blame you, Diss.
That just makes the “I feel in” part seem really nasty.
5 regular tacos, a mexican pizza and nachos bell grande. Ooooohhhhh……….
Who saw Weekend Update?
“A man who won the national burrito competition this week did it with 32 burritos, when reached for comment the man said ’somebody’s in here!’…”
This just in; Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
Our top story tonight; bars across America were saddened today by the death of Dr. Frank Howenstein, the famed doctor who, as a sideline, would create exotic drinks from tree sap. This is one patron who is going to miss that hickory daiquiri doc.
Tonight’s editorial is about Russian Jewelry….
What’s all this I hear about violins on television?
Were you watching the BBC Proms too?
LOL!
We are showing our age, huh?
Yes.
And proudly!
*thrusts out sunken chest and flabby pecs*
/facepalm
Really? Are we stilling doing Bush pictures?
Anyhoo, Mr.Lincoln wasn’t so popular during his own reign. Repealing First Amendment rights will do that.
Now I’m picturing some future equivalent of PK in 2150 posting photos of George W. with captions about how “we just don’t have great leaders like this anymore!” Hmmm.
Ewwwwww……
I’m glad I’ll be dead long before then.
then bitter troll will have that poster exacuted for posting things about what bad leader supream leader bitter troll is…
You guys have long life spans.
This is correct. He’s ranked something like 25 or 27 out of 44. Not quite the middle, but close.
See, the reason why I hate seeing Bush or Pailen jokes these days is cause neither are really in politics anymore and the jokes JUST AREN’T FUNNY.
Palin’s not in politics anymore? Right….
No, but I believe that Sarra Pailen is …
Well, she did resign as governor a few months ago. As such, she should be out of the public spotlight.
If she IS still in politics, then she is fair game.
*makes hand over head motion*
I agree, this is old news. Literally.
Wasn’t that the episode with the alternate future where everything went wrong?
bitter troll agrees, could of been funny a few years ago. but bitter troll thinks the current leadership is what the lol’s should be aimed at, keep it fresh!
The problem is, Bush was a two-term president. Almost by default legacy-wise he gets sprung over a large number of virtual nobody one-term presidents. Which sucks, because I hate the turd.
hm the dilemma of action vs inaction. I am of the opinion that those that have acted are worse than those that didn’t…unfortunately there’s the problem of action through inaction
I am curious who would be the worst president though…i don’t want troll flaming though T.T
andrew jackson-nods-
Well, some quick research shows that historians generally believe the two presidents leading up to the Civil War (Pierce & Buchanan) are pretty near the bottom if not dead last. Andrew Johnson’s dismantling of Abe Lincoln’s reconstruction policies put him right at the bottom too. Also up for consideration, William Henry Harrison, who makes GWB look like a rocket scientist in comparison. Warren G. Harding’s corruption puts him next to dead last in a few polls too.
Universally high ranking presidents include the usual: Washington, Jefferson, both Roosevelts, Eisenhower, Truman, Wilson, and *shudder* Reagan.
Oh, and the link in the name refers to an article in The Washington Post where the writer thinks that Shrub really is the worst ever.
thanks for the refs. i’ll have something to read at work tonight
Note that Truman was considered a poor leader during his own time, so extraordinarily unliked that the press printed a paper announcing his defeat the night before elections ended.
And why don’t you like Reagan? The man who, along with Thacher and John Paul II, toppled communism, ended rampant inflation, and had a forty-nine state landslide?
Yeah, and he handled the whole AIDS situation so well too. Why fund research and public education on a rising plague when you can just deny, deny, deny?
And he kept his campaign promise: He did for the country what he did for California: He trebled the debt…
Fascinating, too bad it took so long for Reagan’s awfulness to kick in, therefore getting Bush blamed for it. He did his fair share, but all this crap started with Reagan.
I see, it just skipped right over 8 wonderful years of Clinton? How convenient. Do you know how stupid that sounds?
He was kept down by a republican congress, and what policies he was able to pass began reversing the trend, providing the only positive budget in the last 30 years. You walked right into it.
HAHAHHAHAHAHHHAA!! Thanks for the laugh, funny how those things only count when it’s Republicans in charge, isn’t it?
I like how YOU only think it counts when democrats are in charge! Do you not see your own hypocrisy?
So, who ruined the US economy? Was it Clinton with his republican congress, or Bush with his democrat congress. Are you listening to yourself?
I dunno who caused it for sure, and frankly I don’t really care. All I know is that something needs to be done, and I saw no intent from McCain that differed from Obama’s current strategy. Obama just is throwing in some social reform along with it. All we can do is wait and see how it pans out, there’s no sense complaining about it, he’s the president and nothing is going to change that anytime soon.
if you would care to examine the facts, you would see a simple fact. During Clinton’s years, the economy steadily grew AND the deficit was low (and even non-existent sometimes). During the Bush years, the deficit was incredibly high and we saw a large economic crash. During the reagan years, the economy was ok, but the deficits were huge. The only one of the last 3 presidents to have both a stable growing economy AND a balanced budget was Clinton. You may not have liked his social policies, but you can’t fault his economic policies. The results are plain to see, and those that try to argue flaws in his policies despite the obvious results are grasping at straws to support their demented pre-conceived (and erroneous) notion that democrats are horrible for the economy. Republicans, of late, can’t seem to balance the stinking budget. They spend too much and refuse to raise taxes and the country gets farther into debt making it such that, at some point, in order to balance the budget, a democrat will have to raise taxes again. One would think that all these TEA people would realize that the only way to reduce taxes is to reduce the ridiculous amount of money we pay in interest on all our debt and vote for democrats who at least have a track record of moderating the deficit if not eliminating it. IMO, we should have a 1% budget surplus every year that we should be using to pay down our national debt. Until the republicans get their fiscal heads out of their asses, they won’t be getting my vote.
Problem with raising taxes is that once they are raised they stay raised. By reducing taxes and increasing business activity you increase revenues overall. You don’t need to raise taxes but you could stop the ridiculous spending, and yes the Republicans are to blame here too.
And who has caused the worst deficit? Your golden boy hero Obama.
Bush created the worst deficit. I’m sick of this, come to me with your criticisms of Obama in 8 years. Hell, he’s already tied with Bush in terms of positive change.
Also, The point of raising taxes is to keep them there, they were put there for a reason. You don’t raise taxes everywhere, you have high taxes here, low taxes there. This stimulates what you want to stimulate and dampens what needs dampening and, oh yeah, provides money for the gov’t to do things for you.
^this guy is profoundly mistaken.
1stly: obama has budgeted, like, 10 trillion dollars in deficit spending, just since he became president…
2ndly: raising taxes suppresses growth, always. for example, new york has really high taxes, and businesses are leaving to go to florida in droves, just to escape the taxes. This is not good for anyone.
Couldn’t the same be said for Roosevelt? I’m sure he created the social security system and welfare state with the best of intentions, but it was just plain short sightedness that has now resulted in a near bankrupt program that is the second largest tax consumer next to national defense. It was just ignorant to think that workers vs. retirees populations would not fluctuate and lead to massive taxing of people paying into social security. In the 30’s, the taxing broke down like this; for every 1 retiree, there was approx. 40 workers paying their social security. Now, that number has dropped drastically to 2 workers for every retiree. The baby boom kinda screwed us over.
It’s true the actual structure of SS is unsustainable if you look at it as a source of neutral or positive revenue, but as a service it is proper. The same goes for the rest of the New Deal, nobody on the Left (if they’re serious) is saying that things don’t cost money, or that there’s any other way than tax to get said money. The point is it’s worth it, and it works, but you need the whole package. Tax cuts, deregulation, and all the other stuff right wingers love cause the problems that they themselves cite when they want to do more damage, it’s a slippery slope.
BTWPPSBBQ, I had no idea about 2112, it was derived from my favourite number, 21, but that was too common. Still, i’ll take it. (Rush, right?)
Well, you are mistaken on at least one point. When talking about this monstrosity of a health care bill, people ARE saying it’s not going to cost money, and will in fact SAVE money. No one believes them, but they are saying it.
It will save money in the long run by streamlining the system and preventing the financial ruin of patients. It will cost money now, but is good later. Trouble is, the public latch on to sound bites even surrounded by a sea of important details, so it’s easier to say HC IZ LES $$$ PERIOD and get to work. For every “distortion” from the left resulting from their feeble marketing skills I’ll give you three LIES from the Right. Get over it.
Umm, how is that even possible? How could something become cheaper over time? There’s no ‘introductory’ cost, you just start paying into it, like social security, and, like social security, it will only get more expensive over time, as more people need medical care.
All taxes, if left to follow their natural course, will increase over time. SS has increased due to senior citizen increase. Welfare costs have increased due to more people trying to take advantage of government programs. The thing that government doesn’t understand is what taxes are really for. Taxes are solely for raising money. We have so many taxes that are meant to sway us into doing certain things; taxes to keep us from buying alcohol and tobacco, taxes to encourage us to buy houses and start a family. It’s wrong that the gov uses taxes as a reward or a punishment, when all they should be used for is raising money for defense, roads, police, etc. Keep gov involvement limited to roads, police, defense, courts and corruption. Leave compassion to the people who actually have some.
Oh, and I love your name, btw. 2112 FTW!!
Hopefully there will not be any conservative wingnuts around then to spout such drivel…
@ Maddok
Lincoln was unpopular only in the southern states, who were afraid of him for no clear reason. He was personally against slavery, but he said many times ho wouldn’t ban it, and when he did it was only to weaken the Confederacy. Also, he suspended the whole Constitution for a brief period of time so he could prevent Maryland (I think it was Maryland, maybe it was Delaware?) from seceding and surrounding D.C. I can’t hold that against him, I would have done the same in his position.
No man A LOT of people hated him for making them fight in what they considered a “rich man’s war.” They didn’t care about slavery and hated they fact that Lincoln made them fight for it.
And the abolutionists weren’t happy with him, because he didn’t ban slavery. And when he signed the Emancipation Proclamation, it only applied to the states of the Confederacy.
I guess it depends at what point in his presidency you’re referring to. I was talking about pre-civil war.
There was a documentary on the History Channel last night, and there were threatening letters by the hundreds, not from the south, but the north.
bitter troll would of assumed both sides, since both sides had crazy @ss people
It said that there were some from the south, but the point they were making was how many plots there were from the north.
So… the South didn’t like Lincoln for any particular reason? Didn’t he declare war on them?
No, they tried to secede from the Union because of economic bickering with the North. Lincoln told them they wouldn’t get out without a fight. That’s why you’ll sometimes see the confederates referred to as “secessionists”.
he cheney was skinny? xD
lol!
Well, they’re all REPUBLICANS and not from the slave party, HOW ironic!
So…Bush ran up a trillion dollar deficit in EIGHT YEARS and he’s bad, Yobama triples it in 6 months and he’s good…you people have your heads so far up your ass it just mind boggling. What does he have to do for you to get it, come right out and announce he’s a communist who wants to destroy the country? You’d probably still jerk off to him. pathetic!
Sucks to be in the minority doesn’t it? Enough to lash out? Need a hug?
Even as a card carrying Republican I’m not touching it.. you wanna give it a hug, be my guest.
bitter troll wants hug!
*hugs*
You’re the exception, not the rule..
I’m with Eddie on that one. It seems snappish.
Ditto
I’m thinking we should get the collar they use on Animal Cops to get the dangerous dogs to corral this troll. He might have teh rabies.
does it come with a built in taser that is froth activated? if so, i’ll bring bat s’mores & beer for the floor show
bad fairie, you’re a genius!!
why thank you. want to borrow the remote activation switch for a few minutes while i start the fire for the s’mores?
Definitely bitter. However, let us not assume that all people who aren’t happy about Obama are just pissed because they lost. Many people genuinely don’t agree with his politics and ideas. If we were to just give up and not say anything if we lose, that would just defeat the point of our political system. That system works because there is constant input from hundreds of facets, and just giving up would take away that differing opinion, and then we would see what actual oppression is.
What’s wrong with giving him a chance to see if his ideas work? You might not like them now, but maybe you’ll love them in a few months, or a year or two or whatever. We haven’t actually seen any of the results from anything he’s done yet.
I am definitely open to new ideas, but one such as this will either succeed tremendously or fail tremendously. It will either provide a beneficial outcome that is an acceptable allocation of our taxes, or it will be another unnecessary drain on them. I want, more than anything else in this world, people to just consider consequences. If they want to pass nationalized healthcare, fine, but they need to consider the consequences of doing so, because just doing something because it feels right just doesn’t seem like a good tactic. If it is passed, the tax rate will increase (according to the bill which I currently have open) by around 2.5%. However, because many people cannot pay this tax, there is a provision that states that the Secretary in charge of the entire public option entity can adjust tax rates based on geographical and demographic changes at any time. This is an incredible power given to someone we don’t vote for, so we just need to weigh the consequences, intended and unintended.
Synchronise watches!
To the retardmobile!
Slightly off-topic: Why is “tool” an insult, anyway? Tools are generally pretty good and useful things.
Out of here for the weekend, probably. Have a good one, everyone!
When someone is a tool that means they don’t/can’t think for themselves and are the puppet of a larger group. If you want an example, “liberals are tools” is a tool.
“conservatives don’t care about people.” is a good example of another.
Never seen that one, why do they insist on going by such stupid names? It just makes them easier to find and ridicule.
I think “tool” is a euphemism for “dick.”
In two ways actually, yes. Very observant, even I didn’t catch that one!
atleast bitter troll is a big tool-nods-
I’ll say what I keep saying. Those of you who enjoy calling Obama a socialist or even worse, a communist, are showing your ignorance. Clearly you have no idea what a real socialist or communist is. It’s just a buzz word that Uncle Rush gave you to use, and like good frothy sheeple you made sure to attack those who aren’t like you. And what’s with the Yobama think? I don’t get that. Is that an insult? If it is, it’s a really lame one.
I agree with you except for one thing. IMHO I think it’s just as silly to assume everyone listens to Rush. I’ve said it before I have yet to hear anybody I know say they have even listened once.
Well somebody is listening.
the people who listen usually deny listening so they can sound more convincing in an argument.
i’ve noticed it with a co-worker, she repeates verbatim the dribble on fox news, then flat out denies listening to fox news. it’d be adorable if it wasn’t so irritating.
What’s wrong with listening to Rush? Closer To the Heart happens to be one of my favorite songs ever.
Ew. If given a choice between listening to Rush Limbaugh, or the band Rush, I think I’d probably choose jumping out the nearest window.
Oh, that’s right….it was YOU who had the aversion to the band Rush! I knew it was somebody on here.
*Follows Rando around singing Red Barchetta*
*jumps out nearest window*
Thank God it’s a one story house.
That reminds me of someone I used to work with who told me Rush is the greatest band of all time and that Pink Floyd sucks. That big ass ratchet left a big dent in the back of his skull too.
I like ‘em both. I will admit that I have more Floyd than Rush in my personal collection, though. Don’t hit me with the ratchet. Thank you.
This is what happens when people don’t read, don’t investigate what they hear from the talking heads: stupidity runs rampant.
*waves “Communist Manifesto” in front of Tool Troll & tells it to educate itself*
Real socialists and communists are what Odumba surrounds himself with. He just either hasn’t got the backbone to declare himself a socialist, or he is simply lying. Which of his policies would you say are not socialist?
bitter troll thinks his hordeing of the cookies are very anti-socialist!
But this isn’t the only way that this bahavior manifestos itself.
I guess he’s just Stalin for time until he can can get high enough Marx with the people to make manifest his goals.
He should be careful, because eating too many cookies could give him the Trotskies!
Or little pellets that resemble Mao Tse Tung.
Oh man… with all these puns I’m gonna Nietzsche some tylenol!
I Kant take it any more!
Phblttttt.
All of them.
“socialists”
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
i was just about to say the very same thing, rogue
They like communism… It’s years of indoctination in goverment run schools (*cough* Democrat *cough*)
because the goverment is totally controled by eeeeevil democrates, who have been plotting the mindwashing of childrens for generation. with eeeeeevil things like science and evolution, its clear man once walked with the dinosause, palin saw a picture of it on the interwebz once somewhere
…and capitalism is baaaaaaaaaad and socialism is gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood.
… and phblttttttt.
bitter troll cant hear you, his tin foil hat protects his bitter brain from your brain scans!
Sooooooooooooo whaaaaaaaaaaat?
basically.
When you have a degenerate like Bill Ayers writing textbooks for children, you have both an evil Democrat and brainwashing….
Sounds like someone’s brain could use a good washing. Yours seems to be a tad moldy. Brain Oxyclean can take care of that! Where’s Zombie Billy Mays??
*Snif* ooooooh, that’s good.
YES TODAY AND TODAY ONLY, BRAIN OXYCLEAN SOLD BY THE FRONT END LOADER SCOOP. FILL YOUR TRUCK, CUT THE ROOF OF YOUR CAR, HAVE ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS HOLD THEIR HANDS OUT! NOW FOR 14 EASY PAYMENTS OF $49.95. AND JUST FOR CALLING IN EARLY, WE WILL THROW IN A BRAIN BRUSH FREE.
BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE. THIS MENTAL FLOSS WILL WORK WONDERS ON WHAT THE BRAIN OXYCLEAN CAN’T GET TOO………
Here, you lose me. Are you just making stuff up now? Seriously, how dumb are you!?
@odumbaday — do you have a cite or source for these textbooks written by ayers for children? the only books i could find under his name were aimed at adults and other educators….
OMG, you’re right! Quick, get the militia together and get to the underground bunkers! The black helicopters are overhead!! Viva la revolution!!!!
Wait…years of indoctrination by communists…but Bush was running the show for the last 8 years…OMG Bush is a commie?!?
Schools are inherently commie no matter what. Teachers obviously don’t become teachers to get rich, and if your goal in life isn’t to become rich… Ta-daa – commie you are!
You’d think we all this indoctrination going on, we’d have far more communists coming out of public schools here in the US than we do. Odd, really.
if you’re talking about indoctrinations or brain washing, i’d say there’s more of that going on in the religious side of things than the educational system. i’m just sayin’…. all this fear of brainwashing and indoctrination i think is just them projecting their subconscious fears onto everything around them.
or they’re idiots.
Or both. Just sayin’.
A lie? No. An underestimation. From what I hear on the news, Odumba quadrupled the debt. Bills passed in congress under Obama are attributable to him, as he not only supports them and pushes for them, he is also backed by a large majority Democrat congress which is voting for them. The economy is in crisis because of the mortgage meltdown, which is attributable to the Democrats who forced banks to make loans to individuals unqualified for them. Of course, they failed to keep up their payments and the resulting crash in real estate caused this mess, not deregulation..The federal govenment via Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac is now responsible for 90 percent of mortgages in the US. That is not a deregulation problem, its a big government problem. Bush tricked you and the Democrats? Doesn’t say much for you does it? At least from your estimation of him. Finally, passing the bailout and the so-called stimulus packages will end up bailing out all the businesses that took bad risks and should fail. The failure of some is what keeps others from making those same mistakes. That is how a market economy works, when we let it. McCain was a poor candidate, primarily because he was willing to work with the Democrats. In the end he probably would have done us (Republicans) more harm than good. But the harm Obama is causing to this country may take decades to fix, if we are that lucky.
mmm, mmm, mmm
Someone has been listening to Fox.
Oh, and let’s face facts, people. Quit bitching about the debt. It ain’t never gonna get paid off. Let it the fvck go.
Oh, so youre looking forward to the good old days of double digit inflation?
Hells yeah! Chaos FTW! /sarcasm
Do you really think everything is going to be as doom and gloom as you act? It seems rather melodramatic to me.
Do you remember the 1970’s? I do, gas lines, double digit inflation, double digit mortgage rates, a president that wore a sweater, it was pretty horrible.
Blame the corporations you love so much for that. Everyone knows OPEC did that with their artificial inflation of gas prices. If you refuse to acknowledge that you really must live in a fantasy world.
Our corporations made OPEC inflate gas prices? Oookaaaaay… Hey I know what? How about letting us drill our own oil and gas so we don’t have to depend on them!? When’s all this green stuff gonna start up, so we can get off oil?
Yes.. The democrats went into banks, held guns to the loan officers’ heads and said “LOAN THOSE POOR PEOPLE MONEY!”. How did you figure it out?
Nah, I think that was people seeing ways to make a crapton of money regarldless of who was in power and started it.
They should rot.
No, the Democrats went into banks and told them that if they didnt loan to these unqualified buyers that it would take them to court. The same way the state usually gets their way, they have all the time in the world to harass you and they dont have to turn a profit. There was a case like that in Baltimore, first they forced them to make these loans, then when the mortgage market bottomed out, the city of Baltimore accused the same bank of making predatory loans.
Utter drek. That NEVER happened. Mr. Bush’s deregulation allowed them to make loans to people they knew couldn’t afford it so they would default on their loans and the banks could take everything they owned for quicker money. Obviously that was a stupid idea in the long run, but that’s what businesses do unless you keep them in a stranglehold; they fvck everyone over. Oh, wait, you neo-cons don’t care because people aren’t real people to you unless they’re rich. Silly me, I forgot about that.
Oh, but didn’t you know, No1? Businesses are really looking out for everyone’s best interests and if we let them regulate themselves, they’ll do the right thing for sure. They would NEVER screw anyone over for a quick buck when the government isn’t looking.
charro sweetie, everyone knows democrats dont use the guns
thanks, my monitor needed cleaned
who says we don’t use guns, we own ‘em, we use ‘em, we just don’t take them to political rallies where the prez is going to be
If that’s what we have to pay to keep the “religious right” nutters out of office, so be it. You neo-cons are so obsessed about the national debt and “socialism” you seem to have forgotten that the previous administration essentially ignored the constitution and lied its way into a war! I don’t think McCain would have been any different, he buckled under party pressure just like Mr. Bush did. So stop obsessing over relatively trivial things and open your eyes! The republican party is not anyones friend!
President Barack Obama proposed his 2010 budget during February, 2009. He has indicated that health care, clean energy, education, and infrastructure will be priorities. The proposed increases in the national debt exceed $900 billion each year from 2010-2019, following a $2.5 trillion increase in the national debt for FY 2009, more than twice the record $1 trillion increase in 2008.[56]
Has it passed yet? No, it hasn’t, so stop talking out of your ass please.
it’s true this country is full of fools. In fact there’s even some so moronic they refer to the president as “Yobama”
Whether or not you disagree with the man and his policy, the man deserves respect, that goes for bush as well (despite how much it pains me to say it)
Nope, respect is earned, not deserved.
because winning an election and dedicating yourself to the service of the people is nothing. Sure some do a spectacularly terrible job, but it is intent which earns respect, and i’m sure if they really wanted to do harm they would have picked a different sort of job. CEO maybe
We would do much better if we had far fewer “dedicating” themselves to public service. As a public servant, his work will result in the loss of millions of jobs and a depression that wont end until he is out of office. Why doesnt he dedicate himself to starting a business and creating a few jobs, instead spending his whole life on the public dole?
Because he’s dedicated himself to ending businesses, or at least putting them in they’re rightful place. The government wants to be the BIG DOG now. They want all the dough and all the power and they will throw us a few donuts here and there but eventually it will all come crashing down because government does not create money, they only take money.
THEIR rightful place…
so just out of curiosity, who owns/runs the us mint where money is made?
Money is not MADE in the mint, it is printed. The real wealth is created by businesses, they make stuff and we buy it, they hire us and pay us, we save and spend. Get it?
well i don’t know about you, but my money was made (oops, printed or stamped if it’s coinage) at the us mint and the gov’t does determine how much is in circulation – too much and you get deflation, not enough and you get inflation. furthermore, it’s not necessary to speak to me like such a twit – you’re not very good at it
What are you talking about? You are the one with the cute “who owns the mint?” questions. And you say I am condescending to you? Wow. I thought I was quite restrained in my response. Deciding how much money goes into circulation means absolutely nothing, it’s only paper! It has no meaning, it is only a form of exchange. The real wealth comes from the people, businesses and what they produce. Which is, unfortunately for us, not much these days…
The government may print legal tender but it does not produce any real wealth. You can’t eat it, there has to be food to buy. Only hard work, making and selling a product produces wealth, ie business. The government takes wealth away, and all it wants to do is grow and grow and take more control. I never made any comments about your intelligence. Sorry if you had assumed that.
There is a balancing act the government plays with businesses. You’re both partially correct. Businesses give money its value, but only the government can keep money not based on any real value (IE the gold standard) stable. Without the government to keep inflation and deflation under control, money would be impractical because its value would swing back and forth violently. We’d be forced back into a barter system, not that there’s anything inherently wrong with that…
Then GWB deserves twice the amount of ridicule he’s been given so far. He has done nothing to earn my respect. The same goes for your conservative god Reagan.
wait obama is the messiah and reagan is god? who is the holy ghost? bitter troll wants to get some EVP recordings off him
Carter is. I know, I don’t get it either, but it’s true.
Please investigate “Republican Southern Strategy” and find out why the racists and descendants of plantation owning slave holders are now in the Republican party- and good riddance!
Didnt Odumba accuse Bill Clinton of being racist? What party is Bill in? Odumba couldn’t even make it through his inauguration ceremony without having one of his buds make some racist remarks. Then again, who hasnt been accused of being racist? It doesnt mean anything anymore.
No, he didn’t. Obama has never accused anyone of being a racist, except maybe his former pastor. As for other democrats making racist remarks, yeah, some of them are real pricks, but at least they don’t constantly rail on the jews and muslims like some of your oh-so-tolerant republican senators. Or have you conveniently forgotten that already?
You do know Clinton said Obama called him a racist…speaking of anti-Jew rhetoric who is this Jimmy Carter guy?
Not talking about Carter, nor am I defending him. I’ve seen plenty of republican senators railing on “the jews in hollywood” who “love abortions” and “hate families”. I’ve seen it often enough I know you MUST have, don’t redirect the question dumbass. Clinton is entitled to his opinion, although I doubt he actually said anything like that and you’re almost certainly taking things out of context, but that doesn’t necessarily make him correct. I thought all liberals are liars who can never be trusted, or is that only when they say things you don’t like?
So, if we don’t think that The Holocaust justifies Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, that makes us anti-semitic? Believing that all people should have the right to be safe in their own homes, regardless of some accident of history, means we hate Jews?
Be careful: if you’re a European-American and hold these beliefs, I’d like you to sell your belongings to your nearest Native American neighbor and move back to Europe.
ell’s bells, as a native american, i’d just like most of y’all to move back and take your stuff with you
i’m part cherokee, can i stay?
depends on which part {insert winking devil smilie here}
Well, if we all left, China would just move in… and they won’t be as nice…
When did Clinton call Obama a racist? I thought that would have been ALL over the news by now.
Or at least the Colbert report…
hey, not all of us slave owning descendants are republicans…. but a good majority are, just don’t lump me in with my achronistic relatives
Far be it for me to assert some kind of “sins of their fathers” taint. Let’s say, “descendants of slave owners, dreaming of past glory”, okay?
it’s ok, just jerking your chain a bit – i don’t normally acknowledge being related to any of them anyway. they think i’m the hippie black sheep of the family, and i know they’re knuckle-dragging troglodytes so it’s all placid as long as we’re not around each other for more than a few hours a year
Stop praying at the altar of Limbaugh and read some real analysis, fool!
Stop pouting about Limbaugh and Fox News.
We’ll stop doing that when you stop worshiping them.
Hey! Yet another proud tradition of socialists, intolerance and a desire to control the media! There cant be even one outlet that doesnt agree with your point of view.
LOL, where’d you get that? I’m intolerant of those who deliberately lie to the masses whenever they speak, is that wrong? Sure all politicians lie sometimes, but ALL news networks do it constantly! You’re best off just stopping watching the news all together. Even the BBC has a liberal slant, and they’re not even operating from this country! I’m not attacking FOX news (although they are the most blatant offender in this case), I’m attacking all news media. Stop trying to put words in my mouth!
not to burst your bubble there odumbaday – the media is controlled, our country is full of intolerant bigots and you’re one of them and, believe it or not, the conservative approach to things has been one of the reasons for controlling the media! omg! tv ratings, ratings on games, age limits on theater admittance, credit cards, renting movies, purchasing premium channels even that parental control on the interwebs – all forms of controlling the media.
i’m not sure where you live that’s totally uncontrolled but it sure as hell ain’t the u.s. – i mean, hell, on most aspects of TV europe has less censorship than the US.
Making up facts for the sake of trolling on the president is so fun, isn’t it? Like wanting to destroy the country and tripling the deficit. Oh, and isn’t (y?)Obama liberal? What’s wrong with being communist? Oh, that’s right, you “have your head so far up your ass it just mind boggling”. Because American – I mean CONSERVATIVE – is the only way, right? No liberal or communist. You’re also Engrish – only English speaking people are allowed in America, remember? Because it was always an English country since the beginning of time? Pathetic little demon.
English was chosen as the national language long before either of us was born and it is meant to keep the nation working as a cohesive unit. There is nothing wrong with learning multiple languages and it should even be encouraged but everyone should know and be able to converse in English. Also, this is a REPUBLIC, we don’t want your COMMUNISM and we never will. We like freedom. So take that shove it up were your head obviously is.
Obama is to communist as Regan is to potatoe, they are nothing alike! You’re an idiot if you think Obama is a communist or even a socialist. Think for yourself goddamn it!
You need to take your own advice.
Bitter troll is bitter.
Really??? This picture on a Friday??? Why not a Putin one?
Or a fuzzy little kitten?
Or Putin?
cause friday is not Vladerday!
But everyday is Vladerday!
At least in Russia…
Fridays should be ” Talk like a Pirate” day! Arrgh!
I don’t agree with this, I think Lincoln did more harm than good, I don’t think Bush and Cheney are/were treated fairly, and I don’t think it’s funny any more since they are no longer in power. AND I AM NOT A TROLL. JUST BECAUSE I DON”T TOW THE LIBERAL LINE. I AM NOT A TROLL. I HAVE A RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE AND EXPRESS IT.
You’re correct, you have the right to express yourself. But is it necessary to yell? Seriously, your upper case rant makes you look like a tool.
Well the difference is that liberals can give reasoned arguments for their opinions.
your views are welcome here sir, dont be mistake, everyone has that right. just dont be mean or cude about it. remember the people on the forums more then likely never made that picture. there are liberals, conservatives and fairy tale creatures here. we can get along and disagree.
example eddie is a evil repubrikan..
bitter troll is a dirty liberal who eats babies
-hugs eddie-
I am mean
I like how you think!
*hands Roguefemme an emancipated cookie*
liberals can give reasoned arguments for their opinions.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And what a clever, well thought out response you typed. I can see you have the intelligence needed to lead our country. Godspeed, urine!
I think urine idiot needs a urinalysis. I detect an excess of nitrates and leukocytes in his/her output.
Absolutely correct! Your right to be an idiot is God-given and Constitutionally guaranteed. It’s nice to see someone exercising their rights.
Would you like to expand on the basis for your opinion that Lincoln did more harm than good? Curious, now.
It helps to provide reasoning when making such bold claims. Also, we don’t call anyone who isn’t a liberal a troll, only morons like “liberals are tools” above. Also, no one likes all caps sentences.
IF YOU USE ALL CAPS THEN YOU MIGHT BE A TROLL.
THANKS FOR THE TIP! IM JUST LEARNIN’
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
There was no form f insult at all in that post. Go back home, study more, return and DO IT RIGHT.
*rolls eyes at today’s troll youth*
OH MAN!! YOUR SUPPOSED TO INSULT TOO!?
*CHECKS TROLL MANUAL*
At least you screwed up the your/you’re. There may be hope for you yet.
@ thanatos — nobody tows a line unless you’re dragging it behind you — you toe a line, as in fall in line, as in shape up, as in follow the party line, as in when everyone lines up and looks like they stepped off the same cookie cutter assembly line.
Death my good man! How have you been?
How do we know that Lincoln isn’t looking at a clock, the watch of the eighteen hundreds, just off canvas?
Maybe the real leader is invisible… watching… waiting… for his time to strike…
Putin
Nah. I think it is one of my cats. She has been practicing mental jujitsu on me for years. All she needs is internet access, and I’m toast!
I swear that mine sit over me while I sleep and wait for my demise. I believe they’ve already lined up a new home for themselves.
lol, my new roommate swears her cat is getting ready to do her in and move in with the neighbors. she’ll wake up in the middle of the night and cat is staring intently into her face from just inches away. and cat is hanging out at several other houses now, staying out all hours of the day and the night. up to no good he is!
Huh, that’s what my ex-wife used to accuse me of.. totally false accusations I might add, she was just psychotic.
I think I prefer that behavior in a cat.
*hands Eddie a cat-shaped cookie*
that’s why i like my dogs — they like me and they don’t act like they’re trying to figure out how to hide any bodies
Well duh! That’s because dogs just bury the bodies in the back yard! There is no figuring out when the plans all set up!
that explains the holes all over the front yard! good thing i’ve got little dogs that don’t dig very deep, lol
Anti-Bush pic still = front page? wtf…
If there’s still enough things wrong that we need to rip on the President and/or other leaders, stop ripping on the idiot that was running the country before and rip on the idiot that’s running it now. Oh wait, you can’t do that, picking on Obama is racist…
*hands angrycat some catnip*
*gives angrycat a bath*
Well, that didn’t help much.
*pets angrycat from tail to head*
Nope, nothing much seems to be working.
-takes angrycat to nice chinise dinner-
*finds a nice labrador retriever to play with angrycat*
Better? Aw, it’s licking him! Cuuuute!
*spins angrycat around the room in a paper sack*
Nope, not helping either. Hmmm…
*puts rando in a paper sack with rocks and throws it over a bridge*
Did you not know that The Amazing Rando always carries his flotation device with him? And his paper bag cutter.
That’s ok, I don’t want to kill him. Just dunk him a little.
His flotation device prevents dunking. And his clothes are waterproof.
Was he also wearing a wet suit and a snorkel?
no but bitter troll made sure he no drownie. river beside bitter troll’s bitter bridge
Apparently this guy is secured like Fort Knox…
Fort Knox calls him for help.
The Amazing Rando is so secured, this isn’t even him typing this. Each message is hand delivered to me by a different messenger who is then taken out and immediately killed so as not to reveal Rando’s secret identity or location. He’s so secure, Cheney bought his secure location off of him for a steal! As far as you are concerned, there is NO Rando. And odumba is still a fvckwad.
I love you too, man! Gimme a terrorist fist bump, yo! No? Okay, how ’bout a little smooch. :-* You trolls are so cute when you target me.
“I don’t want to kill him. Just dunk him a little.” Indeed, which is why he put ROCKS in the bag eh Rando? Cause backtracking always works when you just made yourself look like a impulsive murdering troll!
MUUUURRRDDEEEERRRR!!!!
Yeah, I usually like Bush LOLs and even I’m tired of it now…
I LIKE YOU ANGRYCAT!!
Trollin’. Ur doin’ it rong.
SHUT UP, YOUR DOING IT RONG.
All caps troll only uses all caps.
Newbietroll proves he’s newbie.
I’m not a troll, I’m a stubborn bastard, there’s a difference.
Man, are you paranoid or what? He didn’t call you a troll…
He responded to me… isn’t safe to assume he’s referring to me? Yes, I am paranoid by the way, and for good reason. You just believe everything you hear it would seem.
Well, did he say “No1askedme”? Or “Newbietroll”?
Oh…. oops… my bad. You’re right, I didn’t realize that part, I just assumed he was referring to me because he replied to me. Why did he reply to me and not NEWBIETROLL?
I think he was agreeing with you that newbietroll was a pretty lame troll.
I get confused by the nesting sometimes. -.-
Nesting fail. These things happen.
Rando once again proves he is amazing. Read my mind right through the freaking foil!
in 8 years bitter troll cant recall many dirty liberal’s makeing fun of bush’s name, and he had such a name to make fun of too.
in the first month has seen many dirty non-liberal’s comeing up with ways to make fun of his name.
isnt that odd?
makes bitter troll feel like he is in troll 1st grade again. makeing fun of poor bitter troll’s name
Well, I did see a couple of “Lick Bush in 2004″ bumperstickers, but that’s actually kinda funny.
Oh, and there’s referring to him as “Shrub”, too. I’m with you, making fun of somebody’s name is very 1st grade!
So, as Bush is walking through an airport, he spies Moses. What the hell Moses is doing there, I dunno, but he’s there.
Bush walks towards Moses and tries to talk to him. But Moses keeps ignoring him, walking away, interrupting him, and so forth.
George loses his temper and shouts:
“WHY WON’T YOU TALK TO ME!?!!!!?”
Moses turns and says:
“Do you have any idea of the amount of crap the last bush I talked to got me in?”
FTW!!
best LOL all day
Funny, yet wrong. The burning bush didn’t get them into trouble.
I think by trouble he meant that whole wandering through the desert for 40 years and dying before he got to see the promised land.
But the bush didn’t cause that. The bush was speaking to Moses. That was before he went to Egypt.
Listen, I know religion and Bush are two things you don’t like seeing mocked, but the connection is clean, and clear. I don’t really know what else to say.
That you are wrong? On more than one account. I have never said I don’t like Bush being made fun of. Matter of a fact, I have don’t it more than once myself. In a video I made about the election, in several LOLs here.
The burning bush never spoken to the people of Israel. It sent Moses into Egypt. The people got into trouble for their disobedience and disbelief once they got out there. They were right at the point of the promised land, and began to doubt and listen to Kora and Dathan. You know, the big massive orgy and the golden calf thing?
The joke’s not talking about Isreal. The joke is talking about Moses, who was told by god (through the burning bush) to go get his people out of Egypt, which was the start of Moses troubles. THAT’S what the joke is saying, I’m not sure where you pulled Isreal into this.
Israel* on both accounts where I misspelled them.
omfg, it’s a JOKE…. seriously, lighten up
hmm.. nesting fail.
relocate where most appropriate
Just correcting you on the wandering 40 years thing. The bush didn’t cause that. Not for Moses, or the Israelis.
Now the joke says the crap Moses got into, ok. Debatable.
But you said it caused the wandering, and it clearly did not.
I would imagine that Moses is quite content with the journey he went through. The only crap was the people he had to put up with.
What you are saying is kind of like saying that giving birth to a child means a lot of crap…… To some it is, and to others not. They consider it a wonderful experience.
You’re reaching here Justa, and you should probably just sit back and say “ok you’re right.”
Here goes: Moses talked to the burning bush giving him a charge to lead God’s people to the promised land from out of Egypt. Regardless of what the Jews did to cause the wandering, Moses held to his charge given to him by the burning bush. Had the bush left it at “Get them out of Egypt” then fine, you’d be right, but he was tasked with getting them to the promised land. Despite who started what troubles he faced during that time, the FACT remains that the BUSH started it all by giving him the charge.
It’s a joke, you’re taking it too seriously and have since made me take it too seriously.
The bush gave Moses the charge, the charge was lengthy, filled with trials, and resulted in Moses dying even before he fully achieved it. No matter if Satan himself set up a tollbooth in the middle of the desert and wanted only exact change, the result would still be the same, the START of Moses’ troubles was the bush.
I can’t make it any more clear than that.
I said it was funny, remember that part? Obviously not. And all the bush told him WAS “Get them out of Egypt.” All the rest came at Mt Sinai .
Ok, it started with the bush, I already said that. I get the joke. I said that too.
The wondering didn’t come from the burning bush. That would be like saying someones death came because you told them to meet you in the park, and they got in an accident along the way. I think you presumed a lot about what I was saying, based on the false idea that I am a Bush supporter.
I’m not running around in circles. You clearly stated the joke was wrong… it’s not and you proceeded to argue with me about THAT FACT.
Quite frankly I don’t really care because at this point, you obviously don’t have an argument since you backed out of the one you made previously. The Joke: The Bush GOT HIM INTO TROUBLE.
Your argument: The Bush DID NOT GET HIM INTO TROUBLE.
I presumed nothing but the bush support, which still does not make your argument any less invalid, especially now that you’ve redacted it.
The bush did not get him into the trouble, the bush was trying to HELP him. The Israelites are the ones that made the trouble. But it’s still a funny joke.
You’re a tard. You stated that I didn’t like religion or bush being mocked.
I said it was wrong on the level of disrespect. Then stated that the bush didn’t get them into trouble. Listening to Kora and Dathan, yeah. Not the bush.
You missed it totally. I didn’t take anything back. I said in the beginning that the joke could be understood as funny. But it is wrong. Smart off all you want. I know you have too. Just got to let that pressure off.
I haven’t smarted off, and you’re the only one flinging insults. You’re missing keywords in the joke, and therefore are missing the whole interpretation. The joke refers to Moses. A singular human being. I have NO idea where you’re getting this “Them” from.
You admit to the bush sending Moses to Egypt, yet you’re refuting that the bush started Moses troubles. It’s the law of causality: Had the bush not sent Moses to Egypt (which was an endeavor on its own) he never would have had the other troubles that were caused later, by various other individuals.
End of story, You can insult me, you can flame me, you deny it all you want, but causality states the bush started Moses troubles by sending him to Egypt, end of story.
Feel free to argue with that fact till you’re blue in the face, I know you have to. Just got to let that pressure off.
I see you completely ignored your first comment that I don’t like Bush or religion being mocked. That is why I called you a tard.
And I already stated the car ride to the park thing.
How about this way? You are on your way to work this morning, and get squished by a big truck. That makes it the bosses fault, right? No.
I said that I understood the humor. Go ahead, mock, and scoff.
The “Them” came in as the behavior of the individuals who actually caused the trouble. Can I buy you a cup of coffee to help you get awake?
“your first comment that I don’t like Bush or religion being mocked. That is why I called you a tard.”
Calling me a tard shows your infinite wisdom and patience, just like your lord Jesus eh? Way to shed a good light on your beliefs. Stay Classy and a good example for Christianity.
“How about this way? You are on your way to work this morning, and get squished by a big truck. That makes it the bosses fault, right? No.”
The law of Causality disagrees which is what this is about. Had you not been going to work, or called in sick, you would have not been on the road to be hit by that truck. That’s how it works.
“Go ahead, mock, and scoff.”
“You’re a tard.”
“Smart off all you want. I know you have too. Just got to let that pressure off.”
“Can I buy you a cup of coffee to help you get awake?”
There’s some mocking and scoffing for you. And you can keep the coffee you obviously need it more than I do.
bitter troll will take some coffee please
4 creams 6 sugers
See, I guess you missed the part where the God of this earth, in the flesh of a man called the King of Israel a fox, and called others of their father the devil. See, he never compromised once.
You started with the mocking, and being insulting. I was just playing along with you. And you are over simplifying things. You were born, so you died. Guess that’s mom’s fault?
*makes a BIG pot of ok, lets just get along coffee*
Here BT, have some. I also bought some great organic stuff the other day, blueberry creme. Can I make you some of that too? Or how about some Navy coffee? You know, 10 times strong and with salt in it?
clearly its gods fault!
he was so all knowing he knew i was going to die and allowed it to happen
does that make god..a…MURDERER!!!
when bitter troll gets his coffee, he wants it extreamly pale and creamy…now adding a salty taste to it is just wrong…ITS WRONG. least for bitter troll
you guys realize this is over a silly joke right?
And you aren’t a piece of work? Sheesh. And being a regular doesn’t make you right, nor joke proof.
I mocked you because 1, you were wrong, 2 implied something about me that just wasn’t true. So much for your debating skills.
You simply throw out what ever suits your thinking. And ignore where I said I got the humor of the joke. I really did.
And I’m entitled to disagree if YOU like it or not.
I know, a joke like this doesn’t need in depth analysis, but unfortunately someone can’t leave a religion joke alone because *gasp* it pokes fun at religion.
And I’m sure God is up in heaven right now saying “I wish they’d just pull the stick out of their ass”
Jesus walks into an inn.
he hands the inn keeper 3 nails and says
” can you put me up for the night?”
Ok well listen JAC, I’ll leave you alone so you can start some inane argument with someone else that everyone will back out of and just look at as silly.. Just like your altercation with VNV, and with me.
I’m personally done with this. No one else seemed to have such a huge problem with this silly little joke other than you.
I’m sorry that inferring you as a bush supported insulted you so much that you found personal insults appropriate.
I’ve taken about as much abuse from you as I can stand.
So I’ll leave you with this “You were right.”
I don’t even know what you’re right about or what you’ve been trying to argue with me about since we both have agreed the joke is funny, and we both agreed that the burning bush started “The Chronicles of Moses”.
So I’ll just back away, and leave you to brood over the horrible misconception of the burning bush.
*walks off*
For frack’s sake… it’s a JOKE.
@ bitter troll – ‘put me up for the night?’ i laughed, that gets you internet points and a whole pot of coffee made just the way you like it, and cookies too
-to much coffee and suger, is currently bounceing off the walls- WHEEEEEEEEE
*facepalmgroan*
See Max, you missed it. I said from the beginning that I got the joke. I bet you don’t care for jokes about things you believe. Especially if they are wrong. Pull the stick out of your own backsides.
It’s over, leave it alone. I already offered peace. We can disagree and leave it at that.
I respect you, and I think somewhere along the line, I have defended you. But if you were in a wreck, I would blame the dumb butt truck driver that squished you, not your boss. He did tell you to drive safely……
BT, you like hot tea?
-sips his bitter coffee with 6 sugers- no thanks bitter troll good
Here, take a good cup of coffee with you as you go. And keep in mind that I stated and opinion, and you responded, and started this on a false note.
And try that debating thing without the insults yourself. I do read here too. For a while. Something you’ve failed to do. Often.
Mmm, I didn’t insult you at all until my second to last post. I ALWAYS refrain from it in a serious debate. If I start off with insults, I’m not taking the debate seriously. And that’s sound info you can go back and look into. Hell I’ve even (tried to) have had debates with Anniee without insulting her… but you can only have so many unprovoked slaps in the face before you start slapping back.
And once again, keep the coffee, I don’t need it.
Maybe that’s the problem. You you started off too serious. And you did insult me right from the start. I know, you don’t consider that an insult. Ok.
Does the coffee make you grumpy?
Wait a minute… Anniee is the only right winger that can actually make me fail my debate protocol….
She spouts venom and insults like they’re actual points to an argument… and I can’t stand her. She’s a highly intelligent female with a horribly skewed vision of the world who clings to Neo-con views on politics….
My god… Anniee is Anne Coulter!
BLA BLA BLA BLA NEW SUBJECT FOR YOU TWO!!
current state of hollywood and film industry.
or
Lowering the age of consent to 14, good idea? bad idea?
bitter troll would not be suprised at all maxx..
Well I could have been serious, or I could have been insulting by using cynicism and being dismissive.
I figured you would have appreciated it more, if I was being serious.
And no, coffee doesn’t make me grumpy, quite opposite actually. It causes kidney problems with extended usage, and it’s absolutely horrible for the lining of your stomach. I’m under doctor’s orders to never take Ibuprofen because of previous stomach problems I’ve had. So coffee would be an ulcer waiting to happen.
Now there’s something we can agree on. I joke about it, but avoid coffee to 3-4 pots a year. I have the hereditary acid reflux disease. That and while I can drink caffeine in tea and soda all day long (in extreme amounts) coffee hypes me up with just 2 cups. I get to where I can feel my hair grow.
For the record, I think we both missed a thing or two due to the lack of body language. I was simply stating that it WAS funny, but that I don’t see it as technically correct.
And if I saw you with a flat tire on the side of the road, I would stop. Watching people work is fun. (Ok, sense of humor. God gave me 2 talents. A sense of humor, and being butt ugly)
There’s no need to stop, I have AAA… two people staring at the guy changing my tire might make him want to swing a tire iron… especially with me being the kind of person I am saying “So which part of the tire you’re replacing is the transmission?”
I am a transmission mechanic, so I could explain that too you. And share my Pepsid AC.
One thing that helped me back down to just over the counter stuff? Eating hot peppers and such. It hurt at first, but then seemed like it punished my stomach into obedience.
Can we blame the transmission for the flat, after all, it was sending the power out to the wheels? Or would that be the engine, since it’s the source of the power?
Nah, blame your boss again. He hired you…..
(Laugh it up Fuzzball)
Oh I know how the transmission works. Ive got my great big “Dismantle and rebuild your vehicle” book. I just have AAA for the towing aspect, cause towing can be expensive, and they pay for your new tire if you get a flat when it gets changed so… why not?
And keep those Pepcids away! I used to chew nearly a full 24 tablet bottle in one day before my doc finally got a hold of me.
I have something that makes acid reflux seem like indigestion. My stomach produces an abundance of over acidic gastric fluid that left unchecked, causes the bottom of my stomach to inflame, clogging the exit. Naturally my body’s response isn’t to back off and wait an hour or two… no… my body’s response? “MORE F*CKING ACID NOW!!”
I’m currently taking a prescription that regulates my acid production… though I’ve always wondered that if I stop taking my prescription whether or not I can get awesome acid spitting like the Aliens ™ have in the movies. That’d be awesome, and incredibly handy for work too…
*shifty eyes* Pardon me… I have to go to the bathroom to flush- eh.. take my meds..
I KNOW that feeling. Usually about 3am. And I did the prescription thing. You have 100% total sympathy from me.
My dad is still on the prescription thing, and is maxed out. And still in pain. On reason why I decided to do my best to get off them. And I can actually take Ibuprofen now. Good thing, as Uncle Aurthur visits more often, the older I get.
Seriously, I started out with Texas Pete Hot Pepper Vinegar on greens. (Try TP on salad.) And worked my way up. I get heartburn 2-3 times a month, usually controlled by Pepsid.
I will pray for that stomach. God, I remember that sick feeling.
God has no mercy on my stomach, for my stomach renounced it’s faith years ago after an “Angelfood cake incident”. Luckily, since I’ve been taking my medication I can eat whatever I want, and if I get a hint of any problems I have another on the spot medication I can take that flushes my stomach, which I haven’t had to use but once, and that was after my ex made enchiladas… she followed a recipe that called for a certain cup amount of chile peppers, which she didn’t have so after taking that first bite, she tells me “So I didn’t have the chile peppers the recipe called for, so I substituted with chile powder…”
When I asked how much she said “However much I was supposed to put in for the peppers.” Cup and a half….
A friggin cup… and a half of chile powder….
*facepalms*
I very often refer to him as Shrub and as for the 1st grade comment, neener neener. *flicks boogers at diss*
You really never heard people making fun of Bush’s name?
I mean “Dick” and “Bush.” It was pretty rampant,
and HILARIOUS.
Only one I ran into was a lady with a razor, saying she was going to shave so that there would be ‘no more bush’…
You mean you never saw a “Good bush, bad Bush” t-shirt? Or a “The only bush I like is my own” t-shirt? You need to get out from under the bridge more often.
I see what you did there! But why are we still getting LOLs about Mr. Bush and Cheney? Someone needs to find out how to make a FUNNY LOL about Obama! I’ve tried and I can’t…
It is FORBIDDEN here to make fun of the Magnificent One!
hard to make obama is dumb jokes, cause he dont act dumb. he wont hold a starbucks cup so its hard to make elitest jokes either.
the lightsaber was a gift bitter troll thinks” go ahead make some LOL’s”
No, it’s friggin’ HARD to make fun of Obama! Seriously, I know you’re a troll and all, but you try to make fun of him in a way that isn’t outrageously insulting. I may not agree with all his decisions, but it’s still really hard to find something to poke fun at that isn’t a false accusation! Like I said, I’VE TRIED!
He’s….well, he’s kinda boring. Can we make fun of that?
*looks around nervously*
Yes, he is kind of whitebread, isn’t he?
*waits for it………*
not just white bread, but wonder bread – it’s fortified with 8 essential vitamins and minerals
obama sure is good with olive loaf and mayo!
I thought it was 12?!?! Is wonder bread downsizing or just ripping off the populace?
i always thought it ways 10, but their website says 8….must be their way of insuring a profit margin
I thought he was Wonder Wheat, half white, half wheat.
How about his large ears?
Well, unless we went with something along the lines of “Look, he’s flying without the magic feather!” I’m not sure where we’d go with the big ears.
Looking for better satellite reception?
Speaking from experience (my ears stick out like a car with both doors open) we could call him Dumbo?
Yeah, but people would consider that “racist” and vote it down, even though he does have big ears. Then again, Bush has big ears too… but I guess that’s not a stereotype about whites.
I don’t think it’s a stereotype about blacks either. Is it? Maybe that’s why those jokes never pan out. *ponders*
Yeah it is. It’s a less prevalent one, but it is a stereotype.
Learn something new every day. Never heard that. I thought it was old men that had big ears.
Yeah, look at LBJ! My God, his lobes hung down to his shoulders!
Never heard of that as a stereotype about blacks. Only as a stereotype about the guys in my family. I figured they were for keeping the horned helmets off of the nose!
Bush’s ears aren’t in the same league. More like Prince Charles’ ears, I would think. Would make good jug handles!
or good handle bars!
nobody can out do ross perot when it comes to the ears though
That might have to do more with head-size than ear size, I think. What is he up to, these days? I kind of miss his brand of wacky!
Perot man dont count, him not human, him leapherchan
i don’t know, but the last pic i saw of him he was looking more like a ferengi than ever
thats because old leapherchans are used to play ferengi on star trek.
or maybe what we think are leprechauns were really ferengi come to see if they could make profit here?
In that case screw the pot of gold! I’m gonna go find one of their starships!
a maurader would be nice. ugly lil ships but bitter troll could fly up uranus
Hmmm. Ferengi would fit with Perot’s attitude towards money!
But what about their hygiene? I’ve heard the ferengi have a certain…. smell to it.
and how else is a leaperchan payed? gold pressed latnuim
haven’t you ever been around an ancient crinkly guy before? they’ve often got a certain pungency about them
I can’t say that I’ve spent a large collective amount of time around the elderly… no.
do not speak ill of the grand negaus!
I usually say something about the teleprompter, but I always try it in good fun and get looks like, “HOW DARE YOU!!!11!!”
I mean after all the “Bush can’t speak correctly.” stuff I figured I could at least joke around about it.
I know BUZZNUT up there really is a troll, but I almost agree with him about this. Many people who lean to the left refuse to hear honest jokes about the man.
this is true and bitter troll dont like it one bit. when it comith to the voteing most people tend to vote on what they like, not what makes them laugh. seen lot here that bitter troll think are nice, but not the funny
I got used to it long before I started posting, but it still bothers me when I see a completely unfunny LOL get voted up just because it makes fun of a republican.
If it makes you feel better, I almost always vote those down. Making fun of Republicans & Democrats is fine, but make it funny.
Agreed. As for the teleprompter, it’s a ‘meh’ for me, since all of the politicos have been using them for years… The amazing thing is when one of them can do well without one!
Clinton was the master at that, IIRC. I seem to recall someone telling me (here) that Bill’s prompter broke during a speech, and no one knew…
clinton’s tellypromoters only had pictures of nakie ladies on them-nods- he did better once it broke cause he was no longer distracted
Maybe Bush made us soft because he was too easy to make fun of.
If you actually try ALL politicians are easy to make fun of.
Yeah, but I’m lazy.
That Grimmiekins guy keeps churning out teh funneh though. He needs to keep up the good work!
but he is a rat basturd
At least he’s not a bassturd.
I have a few that are funny. And not too insulting. Not any more than a jibe, not the vomit in the can slap downs.
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One problem is that when he does something dorky, he’s either doing it on purpose or at least aware he’s being dorky and does it anyway (example: lightsaber pic).
It’s just not as much fun to mock the dorkiness when the pol in question isn’t clueless of it.
I’ve written some LOLs about Obama before. If you keep the venom out of them, they’re actually quite funny.
Shame to waste perfectly good venom…
Well, if you want to be bitter, snide and nasty, go right ahead. It’s not actually funny.
Yeah the humor surrounding Obama is either racist, just plain mean, or nonexistent. Obamaphiles feel that it would be treason to make fun of him, Obamaphobes can’t make the jokes funny, just horribly rude, and the people in the middle just don’t care.
Obamaphiles are just plain jokes to being with…
So true….so, so true…
I’ve had a few pokes at Obama.. I don’t know if they were full of venom, but they made me laugh. One of my favorites is this one: {http://cheezburger.com/View.aspx?aid=2371230464}
Bush and Cheney were just noting that Odumba’s 15 minutes of shame have expired. Well, except for those additional minutes when Gadhafi calls him his son.
Wow, you puppets are still using the old “Odumba” card, even though everyone always razzes you mercilessly whenever you use it? Do you even have a brain?
Odumba?..bitter troll is waiting for the oklahoma version
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKabama!
Brand new state, gonna treat you great!
Gonna give you barley, carrots and pertaters,
Pasture fer the cattle,
Spinach and termayters!
*actual lyrics.
Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama
*also acutal lyrics
I didn’t write it… They are teaching it to school kids in public schools, complete with the “asinine” middle name…
oh noes the poor children!
NO KIDDING, HOW DO THEY KEEP FROM WRETCHING?
LOL WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE! They aren’t teaching that in ANY public schools! My mother is a teacher and my brother goes to a public school, I would know. Furthermore, I cannot find any evidence to suggest this is happening anywhere. Even if it was I would be more appalled than you, because your kind has no problem with indoctrination, all you hate is Obama. Please get your head out of your ass, it’s for you’re own good.
It was on youtube but I think they took it down already. Please click my link.
Oh, and
mmm, mmm, mmm
What the hell is you’re point?! Obama didn’t mandate it did he? He isn’t saying everyone must worship him is he? Besides, do you believe everything you are told by the media or read on the internet? I don’t, I only care about what the concrete documents have to say.
Calm down No1, it’t not that big of a deal, I just think it’s hilarious and wanted to share… You get too serious.
You don’t find many documents made out of concrete these days.
Concrete documents would be hard to store–taking up too much shelf space, and probably causing those bookcases to collapse!
I’m saying this for your own good, stay away from FOX news. They are known to be liars when it suits them. They have a HUGE conservative bias, they are not to be trusted. Not that any news station is reliable, it’s just that FOX is especially well known for this kind of thing.
No1, I have a feeling our troll here doesn’t really care. He has yet to give us anything of any substance whatsoever. He’s just fvcking with your brain, dude.
Yeah, I kinda figured that out. But it’s not my fault sarcasm doesn’t work well in printed text!
Why do people cringe when they see his middle name? Why hide it from the public? Does it mean he’s related to Saddam in any way? Obviously not.
There is no logical reason to get upset about saying Barack’s middle name.
Well there is this:
This year, 2009, President Obama, decided to cancel the ceremony for the National Day of Prayer at the White House. The reason… not wanting to offend anyone.
On September 25, 2009 from 4am until 7pm, a National Day of Prayer for the Muslim religion will be held on Capitol Hill, beside the White House.
I’m just sayin’
Oh, apparently Gaddafi has adopted him…
but gaddafi gets along so well with those hobbits
What if he was Muslim (he’s not but this is for the sake of the argument)? Would that really be so awful? I don’t fully understand everything he does, but he hasn’t screwed up yet.
Not that I have an issue with Muslims as a whole, but if the people won’t vote in a Mormon, you think they’re going to vote in a Muslim?
Is it that they won’t vote for a Mormon, or they won’t vote for Mitt Romney? Massachusetts voted for Romney once, and they learned from their mistake!
I think it’s a little of both, VG. But if Obama had been a Muslim, I seriously doubt he would’ve so much as made it past the primaries.
Truth! Look at all the abuse JFK copped because he was Catholic. I’m of the opinion no matter how qualified you are, or how great your record is, if you don’t claim to be mainstream Christian, you probably aren’t going to get elected. It’s a shame really, as I’m sure there are people of other faiths besides Christian that could do an excellent job as president.
The National Day of Prayer went on as scheduled May 7, on the west lawn of the Capitol. The only difference is that Obama decided not to participate publicly. He did, however, issue a proclamation in which he “call[ed] upon Americans to pray in thanksgiving for our freedoms and blessings and to ask for God’s continued guidance, grace, and protection for this land that we love.”)
The Muslim Prayer Day also took place on the Capitol grounds, which are not “beside the White House”.
Yea, I guess he couldn’t really cancel it if he was going to allow a wholly separate MUSLIM prayer day on the Capital grounds could he? When do we EVER on ANY government property have a CHRISTIAN prayer day? Hmmm? Can you tell me that? Oh and about that MUSLIM prayer day, do you think they even took out one minute to condemn the recent and past terrorists who say they are acting under the Koran? No, they did not, nor do they ever intend to in my opinion.
Hello? The National Prayer Day was held on gov’t property.
btw, Bush 41 and Reagan each hosted the event only once each during their 8-years in office. You must have kept very busy condemning them for that.
Oh, I’m sorry, was that the national CHRISTIAN prayer day? Was that not meant too include ALL religions?
From their official web site:
Mission
The National Day of Prayer Task Force’s mission is to communicate with every individual the need for personal repentance and prayer, mobilizing the CHRISTIAN community to intercede for America and its leadership in the seven centers of power: Government, Military, Media, Business, Education, Church and Family.
Well, that is kind of dumb. We will now need to have a prayer day for every kind of religion… They should combine them, after all most religions have some concept of prayer, or at least the major religions…
All rise for the prayer of the first amalgamated religious service!
I know, right? That’s like the worst Obama insult ever. I at least thought Obamanation was a clever play on words. This. Ugh, not even worthwhile.
obamanation was pretty clever, bitter troll admits, bitter troll chuckled
OOOH new end to incredable hulk!
hulk vs the Obamanation!
15 minutes?…..eer…-cough-….bitter troll is here to tell you he has another 3 + years left…
He could be a lame duck for a long time…
Heh. Like the Republicans have anyone worthwhile in the wings to take him down in 2012. Once we rebound from this rough start, things will get better and it’ll be smooth sailing to 2nd term. Don’t get too butthurt when the country gets better, I know you’ll be sad when it does.
Hmm, they might get McCain elected if they actually allow him to campaign based on his actual views. I doubt that would ever happen though, the republican party likes the president to be their tool. I’m actually really hoping they run Palin in 2012. Not only would it be hilarious, but it might be the thing that gets the real conservatives to finally jump ship and form their own political party, essentially stranding the “religious right” wingnuts politically.
And you know what’s really funny? Things could (and hopefully they will) turn around, people could prosper (even us evil Republicans) and there will still be people butthurt over Obama being elected. Frankly, I hope it does turn around and Obama can get the economy back on track.
I think there are at least some people butthurt enough about Obama that they hope the economy DOES continue to fail just so they can keep blaming him. Our resident trolls, for example. And when it does improve (because it will, it’s not an if), I’m sure they will say it’s because of leprechauns riding unicorns before they give the current administration any credit.
Only losers wear watches anymore anyway, or anywaymore if you prefer.
I have a watch, but I never wear it. That’s what cell phones are for. That, and to use as a flashlight in the dark.
Can’t take a pulse with a cell phone! Nurses and serious athletes still wear watches.
oh oh oh and deep sea divers!
I take a pulse with my index and middle fingers.
And judge the timing how?!?
MAGIC!!!
Well, I just count the sec…onds…oooooooooh…I see now.
Timing? Who cares about timing. If there’s a pulse, they’re probably not dead. That’s all I care about.
Well then, Jojo, I hope to goodness that you aren’t in healthcare! A resting heartrate of 120 b/m is NOT a good thing. Neither is a resting heartrate of 45 beats/minute. It actually does matter!
If I was in healthcare, I’d probably have a watch. Thus the great circle of life or at least this topic returns upon itself.
My cell phone has a second hand on it.
The one pushing the buttons? Or the one holding it in place!
My wife is a nurse (a hot one!). She wears a little stopwatch attached to her security badge necklace wizmo…so I’ll stand by my original observation.
I have a hard time operating the little reply clicky guy, and no I can’t operate a stopwatch either.
Hey! I did it – the old ego reply.
*high fives self*
Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say “hooray!”
Hooray, Mr. President! You’re number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!
Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
To make this country’s economy number one again!
Hooray Mr. President, we’re really proud of you!
And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue!
So continue —- Mr. President we know you’ll do the trick
So here’s a hearty hip-hooray —-
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Songs to the great leader? Throw in some kids and you’ve got that favorite propaganda tool of all socialists. Ah, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong-il, and Obama. Quite the line up. I wonder if Chavez and Obama’s dad Ghadafi have their own chorus too.
All politicians do this sort of crap, get over yourself.
Why didn’t they write one for Reagan? He had actually accomplised something to sing about. Can you imagine the outcry? The weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth if anyone had sung something like this for Bush?
What did he accomplish, pray tell? Besides, do you see Obama writing this stuff? No, he has no involvement whatsoever with this sort of thing. Besides, is it so wrong to like the president?! Very few people actually see the world the way you do you ignorant ass, so GET OVER YOURSELF.
P.S. I personally find Obama’s policies to be remarkably short-sighted. I’m not some sort of “Obomaniac”, I hate those people as much as any rational person. I don’t like either party’s politics, but at least the Democrats don’t cater to fascists.
JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE IF THEY DONT
They haven’t. You can’t argue things that haven’t happened. Besides, I remember what Regan did now! HE WAS THE ONE WHO MARKETED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO THE “RELIGIOUS RIGHT.” He’s the one who fvcked up the once-rational republican party! I must say, that is quite a feat, destroying the balance of public politics in a democracy isn’t easy, but he did it, WAY TO GO!
Mr. Gobachev, tear down that wall!! And, guess what children, it did come down!!
True, but I doubt Regan’s “moving” speech had anything to do with that, considering JFK had a similar speech years before and achieved nothing from it.
Well, he was no Reagan either…
Yeah, you’re right…. I guess I just have sort of a chip on my shoulder when it comes to Regan because he allowed religion and politics to mix inadvertently.
nor was he a papa smurf
wasn’t inadvertent – he courted the support of the moral majority and welcomed them with open arms when they threw their support behind him
Yeah, but he’s a politician, he saw an untapped source of support and took it, they all do that. I severely doubt he intended for their views to be taken seriously, he was smarter than that; he simply thought most people were smarter than they actually are.
true No1askedme, he was a politician and took support where he found it, but he was very serious about bringing in the mm as part of the mainstream republican party.
He did a lot worse abroad. No one seems to remember those things… Iran-Contra, Grenada, Nicaragua, etc.
I mean, weren’t we considered a terrorist-supporting country under Reagan?
Just throwing other things out there he did that might/ might not be comparable to ignoring separation of church and state..
Actually, the Soviets put up the Berlin wall while JFK was in office. Something to do with them believing that he was a dumb kid with no spine. No Dwight Eisenhower, he. Nice of him to come speak though.
Lol, like they cared about what a leader on a different continent was like when they put up the wall! Besides, do you have ANY evidence to support this? Would you rather we nuked them when they put it up instead, because that seems to be your opinion on foreign policy! “If they do something we don’t like it’s not our fault if we invade them and blow them to hell!” You’re a joke, get a life.
REAGAN SMASH REAGAN SMASH!!!!
Reagan gets credit for ending the cold war because the USSR was ready to collapse on its own. Reagan gets a TKO. He didn’t do anything spectacular.
BECAUSE OF THE ARMS BUILD UP THAT BANKRUPTED THEM, THANK YOU REAGAN.
Actually, a great deal of the arms buildup was during JFK’s time in office. Cuba, anyone? So by your logic, JFK gets credit for the fall of the USSR.
Gonna have to try to harder than that, n00b.
The Soviets were able to sustain their military spending until Brezhnev’s administration, when they could not even keep food in the stores. JFK, however, could have done much more to make them collapse. But Khrushchev understood that JFK just wasnt very mature or very bright and took advantage of it. He out thought Kennedy at every turn. There is a great tape of Kennedy turning to Eisenhower for advice on how to deal with Khrushchev during the so-called missile crisis and Eisenhower breaking up laughing at Kennedy’s naivete.
Oh, so since we don’t like their policies it’s ok to bankrupt the country and destroy their government? “Yeah, who cares about the oppressed citizens who would die without the government infrastructure to keep the economy working; everything is ok as long as those damn commies aren’t in control!” You make me sick!
Your right of course No1. Far better to allow them to continue to build up arms, threaten Europe and the US and basically oppress millions of people.
We cannot stop the oppression, and BTW, read what odumbaday wrote. He admitted their economy was already crumbling, but he thought we should have made it WORSE FOR THEM! We wouldn’t have achieved anything by wrecking their government entirely beyond causing countless senseless deaths of innocent civilians! Do you really think they deserved that?!
The price of freedom is high, but in the end it is worth the suffering. I’m glad we forced the Soviets government to collapse. I’m not sure at all that it caused countless deaths, but if it did, they weren’t senseless.
People like you are the scum of the Earth. They never asked us to “save” them. We didn’t like their government and it was a threat so we exhausted its economy, and that’s ok. What makes you think it would have been better completely destroy their government, therefore destroying all economic infrastructure and causing anarchy, even though it was crumbling and no longer threat to us? People are entitled to their own ideologies, we have no right to kill them because they think differently. You obviously have no idea of what America was founded on, and you make me sick. Go lock yourself in a room and never leave it again.
You’re an idiot if you think all ideologies are equal.
You’re a bigamist asshole if you think your ideas are inherently better than everyone else’s.
No, our Democracy was not my idea, but it is the best form of government in the world.
Wow, you are sure bitter there Rando, yes I do happen to believe in all those things. Does this country live up to those ideals all the time? No, of course not. But the ideals themselves are worth fighting and yes, dying for. Because without freedom you might as well not be alive. Remember, “Give me liberty, or give me death”? Those guys weren’t just kidding around.
Look, you’re allowed to believe in all that, that’s not a problem. The problem is that you assume your opinion is reality, or at least you appear to be that way. We’re getting angry at you because you’re being more than a little rude. I know I was as well, but I tend to get a little loopy when I feel I’ve been insulted. Just chill out and try to be civil please.
Actually, the arms buildup and outspend policies were put in place by Nixon. The presidents after him just continued the policy because it was working.
Clinton’s economic setup was working fine for us, then Bush came in and screwed it all up, started a war, and got us into a recession. You prove my point quite well, thanks a lot.
No, the Islamic terrorists came in and screwed it all up. Thanks for playing.
How did terrorism ruin our economy alone? There were only the 9/11 attacks in our country, that’s all; and they actually strengthened our economy for a time if you look at the numbers. The terrorists didn’t harm our economy in any way, deregulation and war did. Also, they weren’t “Islamic terrorists”, they were Islamic EXTREMIST terrorists that were funded by the U.S. during the cold war. Please get a clue.
We would not have had to go to war if it wasn’t for the terrorist.
We didn’t have to go to war at all! Iraq had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with 9/11! If Mr. Bush actually wanted to catch Osama Bin Laden, we would have done so years ago. Instead, we cornered him in the mountains of AFGHANISTAN, Bush made up some half-assed lies about Iraq being linked to 9/11 and “WMDs”, we LEFT BEFORE CAPTURING THE REAL BAD GUY, and WE got ourselves embroiled in a pointless quagmire that even Bush Sr. said was an impractical war when he had more of an upper hand than we did 7 years ago when this whole mess started.
mX9 clearly believes all the propaganda he’s heard. He’s a good American. *nods sagely*
You sound like an Obamunist to me.
P.S. Obama isn’t a communist. He’s a moderate liberal.
He’s a Neo-COMM.
That’s not even funny. I suggest you go look up “Communism” for yourself. I guarantee it doesn’t mean what you think it does. Kinda like how the word “liberal” means “favorable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.” and “Favouring maximum individual liberty in political and social reform.” Although I could see how a fascist like you could resent that sort of thing.
Its about as meaningful as neo-con…
Neo-con isn’t a real word, you’re right. However, it is effective as a term when referring to political ideology. In this sense, the prefix “neo” basically means ultra-fundamentalist. So a neo-conservative is someone like yourself with impractically conservative views, so extreme it borders on fascism. The “religious right” wingnuts are real fascists.
He is also following the advice of DD Eisenhower. In his farewell address to the nation, Ike coined the phrase Military-Industrial complex and warned the nation of what would happen if we dumped everything we had into the MI bank accounts. He said that education would go to hell, health-care would be a lower priority and the infrastructure would rot. Now there was a Republican who knew exactly what he was talking about. Did his party listen? No one listened. First LBJ, then Nixon, then Reagan really ramped it up and then the Bush family made war for the fun of it. And what happened? Exactly what Ike said would happen. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer and the nation went to hell. Now Obama has to lift all that crap back off of us and restore the infrastructure. Where was all this anguished howling about money when Regan was pipe-lining it right into the MI? Now that a president is spending money on people instead of largely meaningless weapons, he’s a communist. Well then, Ike must have been one too. The man was a two term cold warrior president and CEO of WWII. What did he know?
Eisenhower was both a Republican and a soldier. While he was aware of the dangers of the Military Industrial Complex, a phrase he took from the communists, he was well aware of the dangers of capitulation and appeasement. The Soviets did build the Berlin Wall or put missiles in Cuba under Eisenhower because they knew he would not permit it. There is nothing wrong with our health care or our infrastructure. Our health care is the envy of the world. Spending on the defence is one of the few constitutional mandates of the budget.
While the rich got richer under Reagan, so did everyone else. And while spending increased under Reagan, he lowered taxes and increased revenue. He tried to implement spending controls, but the Democrats defeated every single one of them. Remember his first tax increase? Remember Gramm, Rudman, Hollings? Line item veto? I wish Reagan had done as Buchanan suggested and simply vetoed the entire budget and make them do it over. Then we might have been able to turn the budget around.
Obama has chosen to use the same disproven policies of FDR and we will probably suffer this depression the entire time he is in office. FDR dragged the depression out for 10 years. A decade. Then he got us out of it by getting us into a world war.
The question is not what Eisenhower knew, we would be fortunate to have him today. He would not be sucking up to Chavez, Putin, Iran, or any of the tinpot dictators so attracted to the boob in the White House. Liberals, however, would be howling.
You live in a fantasy world don’t you odumbaday?
“There is nothing wrong with our health care or our infrastructure. Our health care is the envy of the world.”
You are one sad, deluded individual. Our health care is the LAUGHINGSTOCK of the world. The greatest country in the world can’t even insure its own people or make sure everyone has access to AFFORDABLE health care. Yet all the other developed countries can do it. Why not us?
“While the rich got richer under Reagan, so did everyone else.”
Funny, that’s not how I remember the 80’s. I remember my mom working 70 hours a week as an assistant manager in retail, and for what? Did she get promoted anymore? Was her hard work rewarded with a good salary? Hell no. And my dad. Yeah, he worked for an architect for years as a draftsman just to be laid off in ‘88. Real economic boom there. Reagan’s policies failed the middle class completely.
“Obama has chosen to use the same disproven policies of FDR and we will probably suffer this depression the entire time he is in office. FDR dragged the depression out for 10 years. A decade.”
This is another conservative talking point meant to discredit one of the greatest presidents ever. If FDR hadn’t intervened, the depression might have ended sooner, but it would’ve been way the hell worse first. We would’ve bottomed out in ways you couldn’t imagine. And what he did brought hope to a desolate population. You really need to stay away from the conservatroll pundits. They’ve destroyed what little brain you have left.
LAUGHING STOCK? THAT’S WHY THEY ARE ALL CRAWLING ALL OVER THEMSELVES TO GET HERE? STOP LISTENING TO THAT LARD BUTT MICHAEL MOORE.
@ odumbaday – please explain how everyone got richer under reagan, starting with the timber industry that went to h3ll when he made the deal with japan to ship whole logs instead of letting the mills retool to meet the japanese spec’s; then discuss the benefit to the mining industry when it collapsed due to manipulation of the price of silver. i don’t know what unemployment was like where you were, but where i was it hit over 17% and the local economy didn’t recover until clinton…..btw, that region was & is very right wing to this day (as if that makes any difference!)
@NewbieTroll–Rich people come here to get care that many Americans can’t actually afford. Yeah, we’ve got some great health care here…if you can pay. Otherwise, who gives a crap whether you live or die, right? It’s all about who can pay. If you can afford all of your medical bills and have awesome insurance, then I’m happy for you. I can’t say the same for myself unfortunately. Neither can millions of Americans who are uninsured, underinsured, or or insured at outrageous premiums.
Nice try, n00b.
I think he’s also mmm,mmmm,mmmm (whatever that means),
Seriously?!?, and a few other names out there.
I think he’s trying to clone himself!
And it didn’t end up very well…
The point is that all politicians dont do that. When you do see it, its always a dictator. I dont know why they are so fond of that type of propaganda, but they certainly are. It says something about him, and even more about his supporters.
He’s not writing this stuff is he? He just likes the support, all politicians want to be supported. What do his supporters have to do with him personally? You’re not making any sense!
I doubt that Hitler wrote his own tributes either, but it speaks to mindset. Its like the cult of personality all these dictators surround themselves with, everywhere you turn there is a picture of the great leader. I think it explains Obama’s constant and never ending appearances on television and his endless references to himself (I this, I that). He is quite the narcissist.
you rather obama say obama thinks, or obama that?
Not in general no, but when he speaks, its all about him. Constantly. There was an exercise years ago where you had to go through an entire day without using the word “I” just to make you aware of its overuse and what it reflected about your personality. The FBI also studies written and oral messages for the obsessive use of “I” and “me” for the insights it gives them to personalities.
bitter troll would rather obama talk in 3rd person, like bob dole. made bitter troll smile
“Can you smell what Barack is cooking?”
meh bitter troll heard that one waaaaay long ago. something fresher..
I got nothing.
Socialism?
Wow, that was clever. Wait, no it wasn’t. Tell me exactly which of Obama’s policies are socialist. If you say “health care” once, you lose automatically. And no fair using Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, or O’Reilly, because they’re all biased and wrong anyway.
Health. Care.
Lol, I like how all you neo-con puppets think socialism is pure evil. It’s so cute!
Socialism will destroy this country, our economy and our freedoms.
A little “socialism” is the only thing that can keep this country from completely crashing economically. If we go with your “let the mega-corporations and rich people enslave us all” plan go into action, this nation will fall apart completely and likely wind up in a second civil war.
@odumbaday — yet if he wasn’t always in front of the media telling all americans (and the rest of the world) what he was doing, thinking, wanting to accomplish y’all’d be screaming that he was hiding stuff and that he’d promised greater transparancy and had gone back on that promise.
wasn’t it fdr who did fireside chats via radio every single week? so obama is on tv, it didn’t exist much more than 50 yrs ago.
if you don’t want to hear what the duly elected president of our country has to say, turn the fricken channel! isn’t that why cable has a bazillion stations?
Actually they still rant about him being secretive too.
true – he still hasn’t released his grades or his un-redacted kenyan birth certificate *headdesk*headdesk*headdesk*
Not to mention his passport, school thesis or any school papers, medical records… why?
Clearly No1 All us liberals are immigrant, commie terrorists who, despite the fact we could be elected FRIGGIN PRESIDENT of the united states, do not present our credentials for that process, and the inept and incompetent republican party could never come up with our real birth certificates, medical records, and passport.
bless you No1askedme for taking the words off my fingers. i was being snarky and dumbf*ck…, well who knows….
but seriously, he graduated from law school cum laude- that puts him in the top percentages academically. (and he focused on constitutional law to boot,so they need to sit down, shut up and find a new dead horse to beat)
the only reason any coprocephalic cares about his grades or anything else is because bush is an idiot, mccain graduated near the bottom of his class, and and palin isn’t the sharpest crayon in the cookie jar and they’re butthurt that moron was/is the best they can come up with as their new hope – it’s what happens when you chase away all the elite, highly educated people with venomous tirades against them
…What the heck did you just say?
Anyway, EVERY OTHER candidate has offered FREELY this information. So what is the FRIGGIN PROBLEM??!!
Your ability to go and see the document that he’s come forth and displayed, that you can easily find if you “Work the google on your internet machine”
You’ll see signed, certificates of live birth for him, released, from Hawaii. And NEVER EVER before has there been this stupid a controversy over birth certificates, and as my statement said, If you republicans let a non citizen get elected into office and for, going on a year now, pass and implement policy changes, than you fail harder than any political party in history has ever failed in the history politics.
Just saying.. so sit down and shut up about the birth certificate, or continue to argue that you’re the most incompetent group of people on the planet for letting a”fiasco” like this pass for so long.
It’s NOT just the birth certificate, it’s the secrecy around ALL he documents, like I said above if you would go back and actually read what I said instead of going on pre-concieved notion that I’m some sort of “birther”. Why can’t we see his grades, his papers he wrote, his medical records. He was elected to the most powerful position in our country. ALL THE OTHERS HAVE!
Well tell ya what? How about you go do some research, look them up yourself and when you find that Obama made a C on a history exam once back in his freshman year, you’re more than welcome to come back here and scream like chicken little that political sky is falling.
He graduated cum laude, that means his grades were damn… good….
So please, find those documents, mark in red ink where he misused “theyre, there, their” in a midterm one time, and let us know if he’s ever had the chicken pox or GOD HELP US! The measles.
We’ll be fascinated to know the results.
“Don’t worry sir! We’ve put our best and brightest up to the task! His name is… well.. his name is a string of consonant sounds… Don’t Ask.”
No, lets just keep everything HIDDEN!! Because we wouldn’t want to disturb his greatness by having him do the EXACT SAME things that our leaders have all done before him. Let’s not bother him with our stupid protocols, he is in fact so much more special than ALL other politicians before him… I’m sure that would make you happy.
Well then in light of this massive conspiracy go ahead and look up his school records, and the thesis he wrote in college… you know what you’ll find? I’ll tell you: “Better than Bush’s”
End of story.
And by the way, no president is required by law to show his medical records, or school records, and if you want to prove otherwise, cite it by law documentation… no blogs, no news shows, show me the law document IN TEXT.
Once you’re done with that strawman? Can we burn it? Us hippie liberal communists need to start up the Burning Man festival soon, and the LSD works so much better with the biggest, most idiotic strawman ever constructed burning right in front of us.
By all means!! Burn it, burn it and bury the ashes, that’s what you do when you want to hide something, isn’t it?
Yes, I’m burning it and burying it, by telling you to go ahead and find the papers and documents, and once you do, and find nothing out of place or strange about them, please make sure to not ever bother bringing it up again.
no, other candidates have not ‘freely’ offered this sort of information. otherwise bush’s military file would be public information, as would his medical file, same with reagan, nixon, carter, bush sr, etc. nor are their college transcripts public information, or their passports, or any other personal information.
arrest records are available if you know how to find them, same with court records, graduation documentation, but not transcripts. medical records are only available if released or leaked illegally, otherwise the same rules of privacy apply to him as well as you.
and again, what does it matter? he’s been declared our lawful president, he wasn’t born in kenya, he isn’t an idiot who went through school trading on his family connections, his grandfather wasn’t a nazi sympathizer…. give it up, find a new dead horse
Since you are going the Nazi sympathizer route, how about affirmative action? We know nothing of his grades, if there was nothing to hide they would be front and center, if they could’ve benefitted him.
No other president has been required to do so. And there is no public outcry for his grades. His official degree which you CAN access shows him graduating CUM LAUD, which means he did very well in school. That’s all you have to worry about. Unless you really think that him may or maybe not having a C- minus on a midterm makes him any less of a leader.
Your argument is colander, it just doesn’t hold water.
max, burning man is over for this year (hangs head in shame you missed it)
simple answer…obama man keeps things like that hidden so your so busy sniffing around things that wont hurt him that you never go sniffing around the 12 dead hookers buried in a vacant lot somewhere.
if they keep looking for my grades and brith papers…both fine and legit, they will never find the hookers!! OH THE HOOKERS!!!
affirmative action might have opened a door or two, but i believe that the fact he went to school on academic scholarships got him a heck of a lot further than an open door, nor does affirmative action translate to graduating law school cum laude. especially since he wasn’t the first black man to attend harvard/yale/columbia/vassar/brown or any other ivy league university – there wasn’t any vested interest in faking his grades at that point in history – after all, it wasn’t the 60’s and integration was a fact of life except for the butt-hurt who obviously are still with us after nearly 50 yrs
@ mmm,mmm,mmm
You truly are an idiot. Words cannot even begin to describe your stupidity. Please go cut out your tongue so no one ever has to listen to your hateful nonsensical babel ever again. There, you made me angry, are you happy now you jackass?
You’re really are a delusional one aren’t you? Cult of Personality dictators are DICTATORS, Obama is an elected official. On top of that, I don’t see any “big brother”-esq posters or ads everywhere, he’s not forcing this on anyone. He’s a politician, they accept just about any support they receive. Politicians are also all selfish egotists, what other kind of person thinks they’re the best person to run a country? I’m not disagreeing with the fact he loves to hear himself talk, but I’m saying it’s a non-issue.
Hitler was an elected official too. Big brother in this case – that would be Obama – likes to be on television 24 hours a day, 1984-ish.
I am thrilled at how many posts went by before it all got godwined.
And my bad, I missed all the earlier ones.
I missed those too, but I skipped right past a lot of this thread due to shear boredom and annoyance.
Yeah, it’s amazingly dull for having so many posts. I like discussion, but there has to be some substance to it. The mindless bickering of this post is about as much fun as listening to the top ten chart on a commercial radio station.
Yeah, except this time instead of VNV & JAC bickering back & forth, it’s No1 & his little troll buddies doing it.
Hitler was an elected official who stole power by using the other political parties to force his way into the position of Kaiser (or whatever they called in at that point). He then jailed or otherwise silenced his opponents and reorganized the balance of power so that he was the only one with any real power. Obama has shown no sign of doing that, but don’t think I’ll support him if he does. As for Obama being on TV a lot, you’re right. But this is the way modern politics are run, especially when your ideas are as controversial as Obama’s. Besides, Obama isn’t spouting propaganda all the time, he’s just clarifying his policies and views; and when there is a little BS thrown in there it’s because he’s a politician, they do that kind of stuff. It’s hardly reminiscent of “1984″.
Seth?
No, I don’t know where he went, it’s been a while since he posted.
No, all politicians do not do this crap. We don’t do this crap in this country, they do this type of thing in Communist China! If we do anything like that in this country it’s songs that praise the country itself and it’s founding values and principles. Not any particular man, he is ONLY a man you know, after all.
What the hell is your point?! Did you read ANYTHING I wrote? My point is Obama’s a politician, therefore he’s a selfish egotist who will take any support he can get. This isn’t uncommon you jackass, FOX news just happened to find it, and it wasn’t for their candidate this time so they blew it out of proportion.
And you don’t get MY point, when was this EVER done for ANY other US president? Or any US politician for that matter. Do school kids sing songs about George Washington? I don’t think they are even allowed to talk about him in school anymore.
All the time. If you look for it on the internet you’ll find it. I doubt you will look, but at least I tried. And what the hell do you have against George Washington?!
They even named schools after Bush…during his presidency, which, according to the WSJ, was unprecedented.
…and by “trick” they don’t mean ACORN…
OMGSTFU! There was never any evidence to back up the “ACORN scandal”. You’re just an annoying troll with no brain! THINK FOR YOURSELF!
Videos are not evidence? What planet do you live on?
What videos?! The first time I heard about this “ACORN scandal” thing I looked all over trying to find what people were talking about, and I found nothing. There was never an official investigation, there was never any legitimate evidence, and no one in their right mind actually believed it!
P.S. If you’re talking about that video of Peloci, I’ve seen it. There is nothing in it that suggests ACORN was involved in voter fraud unless you take what she says entirely out of context. Besides, most democrats hate her too.
OMG, you don’t know… I’m talking about the video where they guy walks in an ACORN office pretending he is a pimp and wants to bring under age girls into the country from South America and ACORN is jumping all over themselves trying to get him assistance and tax shelters!! Do you use google?
Oh, THAT ACORN thing. I actually find it a little funny for some reason, I don’t know why. Truth be told, I don’t really care about that whole thing. What does that have to do with Obama?
So you find government corruption funny? Good to know…
LOL THAT’S AMAZING! What government corruption? ACORN is not a part of the government! I won’t deny there is corruption, but this is unavoidable and it’s hardly Obama’s fault.
The government is/was funding ACORN, probably because of their connection to him.
the US goverment working with a company that turns out to have curruption inside it? NEVAH!!!!!!
People make mistakes, so does the government. You can’t hold what they didn’t know against them.
OF COURSE WE CAN, THEY ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WE CAN VOTE THEIR REAR ENDS OUT IF THEY KEEP MESSING UP.
Actually, only congress can remove the president. Other than that you’re basically correct.
Acorn was under investigation in 15 states for voter fraud. Are they all mistaken? With all the voter fraud that takes place, do you understand how difficult it is to even catch? How widespread must it be if 15 states charge one organization with it?
Please provide any evidence that what you have said is true, because I can’t find anything. Besides, you don’t seem to care about the voting fraud that occurred in your favor… or has your tiny brain already forgotten?
“acorn voter fraud investigation states”;
You must have really knocked yourself out investigating this. I even found a liberal news story citation….
An AP story from October 2008
“Some ACORN employees have been accused of submitting false voter registration forms—including some signed `Mickey Mouse’ or other fictitious characters.
Those voter registration cards have become the focus of fraud investigations in Nevada, Connecticut, Missouri and at least five other states. Election officials in Ohio and North Carolina also recently questioned the group’s voter forms. ”
There werent 15 investigations going on at the time, but it got worse. I think you need to go back and take a serious look at the so-called voter fraud that happened in our favor. As I recall it was a bunch of Democrats who thought that they had voted for Buchanan due to the onerous butterfly ballots. Ballots that the DNC in Florida had approved for use. They did not even have a single person who knew it to be the case, not even one.
I’m looking for it but I’m not finding it, could you provide a link? I’m serious, I cannot find it, but I really don’t want to be an ass to you if I’m really wrong. As for the republican’s voting fraud, I was talking about the “voter boxing” that happened all over the country. Look, both sides are guilty of voter fraud in every election, let it go.
I know as little about this as everybody else, but the feeling I get is this was some lazy employees padding their quotas, I know I wouldn’t enter Mickey Mouse if I were seriously attempting Voter Fraud.
Ignorance fail. Just because you haven’t looked up the concrete video evidence of multiple ACORN employees catering to a man and woman that are acting the part of a pimp and prostitute, specifically asking for a place to “do business”, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
(Run-on sentence I KNOW!)
You need to look it up.
ACORN is attempting to sue the makers of the video, but I can’t think of a judge in this country that is so disconnected from reality to even humor the case.
ACORN is a thorn in America’s side. They funnel government funds for corrupt programs. They took part in large scale voter fraud during the elections.
I thought he was talking about the “voter fraud’ accusations. I misunderstood. I agree ACORN has issues, but that proves nothing. What does this have to do with Obama again?
ACORN is his baby.
obama crapped out a acorn? pretty sure bitte troll would of seen that on the 5′o’clock news, film at 11
Probably not… That’s not the kind of news they are allowed to show.
Lol, once again with the “liberal media conspiracy”. Get a clue moron.
Well, did you see it?
I don’t watch the news, it’s all lies and propaganda. I get my information through independent research of documentation and events.
HAHA where do you think the news comes from?
“I get my information through independent research of documentation and events.”
Would that be… via the news? LMFAO
No, I find articles and follow the citation links until I find the original document. It’s called using your brain, you should try it some time. Also the news stations are all corrupt and put some sort of biased slant into all their reporting. So news is 20% real stuff, 80% stuff people make up. Learn to think.
The Obama administration was given $800,000 for his campaign from ACORN.
Obama is directly responsible for every act of corruption in any official office in this nation.
Wait what? Sorry about that, this far-right headcrab was eating my brain.
Not saying Obama is retroactively responsible for ACORN’s corruption, but instead of saying “I don’t really keep up with them. I’m not sure what the situation is.” (paraphrased, in reference to when he was asked about ACORN’s corruption) he should take some direct action.
Direct action is a lot to ask for when Healthcare and Afghanistan are looming over his shoulders, but still, all he needs to do is sign a paper, give a command, something!
You’ve really gone off the deep end here… I can’t even fathom what your thoughts must be like. You go beyond stupidity… I… I can’t even believe what I’m reading here… you really need to look at yourself and see what you’ve become, because I assume you were a rational human being at some point…
How about posing a counter-argument rather than simple minded insults? Hmm?
Oh wait you can’t. Don’t have the brainpower.
jojo, you just did a fail.
Anyway, obama worked as a lawyer for acorn. I has a link: (http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/700499,CST-NWS-Obama-law17.article)
Scroll down to the ‘Drove ‘Motor Voter’ victory’ headline thing, where you’ll see he sued on behalf of ACORN to push through a peice of legislation that makes voter fraud easier.
And he doesn’t know them? riiigt…
Acorn did not commit voter fraud. What happened was they paid people tp collect voter registrations and some of those workers submitted false forms with made up names to make more money. ACORN reported these forms to the appropriate agencies, making sure that the false names were not registered to vote, preventing voter fraud.
Here in NM in the 2004 election the Republican party paid workers to collect voter registrations — hitch was that they only paid for Republican registrations. Nothing was ever done about that and it certainly didn’t make the numerous headlines ACORN did. Same thing happened in Las Vegas.
So THAT’S where they’re getting their accusations! I never put those two together until you explained it. Thanks a lot!
Once more from the top….
“WASHINGTON (AP) – The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election.
A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday. A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.”
“the Republican party paid workers to collect voter for Republican registrations” Boy, you’re on to something scandalous here. Stop the presses!
I read stuff relating to this, but I never put it together. It would seem certain employees of ACORN at least attempted to engage in voting fraud, but it was only a small portion of the organization. ACORN was not officially involved, only a relatively small percentage of the employees; who were reported by the organization. In short, ACORN didn’t engage in voting fraud, some jackasses who worked for ACORN did. Besides, plenty of the states this reportedly occurred in went to McCain anyways, so the fraudulent votes obviously were insignificant.
I will try to clarify. “Voter fraud” is when someone fraudulently (ie illegally) tries to or succeeds in voting. Some of the people working for ACORN submitted fraudulent voter registrations to ACORN hoping to increase their pay. These had such brilliant names as “Mickey Mouse” and “Donald Duck” and were never filed because ACORN caught them before it reached that point. So there never was any ‘voter fraud,’ per se. And it was ACORN’s own reporting of these fraudulent registrations that prompted the investigations.
And yes, it does matter that the Republicans were paying for only Republican registrations because it was discovered when people who registered as Democrats found out that their registrations somehow never made it to the clerk’s office.
Personally, I believe that the whole practice of paying people ‘per registration’ just invites the workers to falsify registrations. ACORN ended this practice after they discovered what was happening, by the way.
A small part of the organization across 15 states? It does not matter how far back you go, Acorn has had this reputation for as long as I can remember. I think that is why that film maker did his pimp and ho routine in at least 4 different Acorn offices, to show that it was no fluke and not an exception.
It was not perpetrated by ACORN, it was perpetrated by some of its employees. Also, did you notice the qualifier “relatively”, that means something you know. It was some employees in 15 of the 50 states, so yes, it is a RELATIVELY small portion. Besides, they weren’t even successful, so shut the hell up about it. It’s like yelling about how Iraq “had WMDs” whenever someone says the war was pointless. You’ve been discredited, get over it, move on.
So, the first people the guy goes up to in 4 different offices in 4 different locations just all happen to be part of that relatively small portion? If it was a relatively small portion wouldn’t the odds of that happening 4 times in a row be pretty remote? Statistically speaking. Since Iraq used WMD’s, I’d say its pretty likely the had WMDs.
*golf clap*
Wow, you’re just being an idiot now. There was NEVER any “WMDs”, your concept of statistics is completely wrong (I’m in a calculus class, I know statistics), and simultaneity does not imply causality! You’re a complete MORON! THINK FOR YOURSELF! PLEASE! IT’S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!
Well, they had automatic assault rifles and weaponized explosives, which, for the purpose of restricting the 2nd amendment rights of American citizens, are considered WMDs.
Which Acorn scandal? There is one everyday. Voter fraud? Van Jones? The pimp and ho show in Baltimore? the one in Washington? Chicago? Where was the last one, the one with the murderer who was working in the office? How bout Obama’s denial of being part of Acorn and now they are all over his administration? How about allowing them to be part of the census? Which scandal are you talking about?
What’s an ACORN? *lip trembling* I don’t know anything about ACORN. *tears* You’re being mean!!
Yeah, that sounds about right for Mrs. Pelosi!
No they(former felons) don’t, not in any public office.
You should probably take a break from being opinionated for a while, as you are severely misinformed and ignorant.
LOL, I’m ignorant!? That’s just funny! Appearantly doing my research makes me ignorant? Wow, you neo-cons have reached a new low.
You lump anyone that opposes your views into this “neo-con” group. You are a moron and not funny, thus you offer nothing to this website.
I lump people who blindly bash liberals with “evidence” that has been disproven and outright refuse to back up their arguments under any circumstances into the neo-con group because that’s what they are. Are you really so blind you cannot see you’re being used by them to further their own insane goals?! I’m not insulting you, I’m telling you the truth as far as I can tell. If you don’t like it I suggest you start thinking for yourself or prove me wrong.
You are so blinded by your hatred of who your leaders have told you to hate that you miss any point being made. Go troll yahoo answers or something. We don’t want you here.
IM NOT A PUPPET! YOU ARE! Do you not see your own blind hatred? You hate Obama because he’s a liberal, that’s all. The republicans have told you “socialism is pure evil”and you eat it all up like candy! I have no leaders, anyone who thinks they have ANY right to tell me what to think can go die in a hole! I am independent, I have made this abundantly clear on several occasions. Your accusations have NO weight, you’re pathetic.
Wait the Liberals are socialists now? You are making all of these odd connections like when I called you a fascist and you connected that to liberal.
Never once have I made the connection between fascism or socialism and liberalism. Every time it has been you.
It’s almost like you have multiple identities that are all fighting in your head.
Oh and PS: I don’t hate anyone. The rabid hate-spewing is what you’re doing.
I’m not even sure if you’re talking to me in your replies though. It’s almost as if you’re referring to yourself in the 3rd person.
-throws a polar bear into the coversation-
Dream on dreamer…
Wow… amazing comeback… you really cannot see reality can you? You don’t even try to defend your statements, you just decide you’re right and that’s it. You sicken me.
*smoochies*
…what?
…huh?
Why did you say “*smoochies*”?
It’s fun to say…
you made smoochies with another guy?
-gasp-
how un republican!
bitter troll has met a few, and has met straight liberuls. so both can be part of any party.
bitter troll just makes joke
lol!
You miss the point. You miss lots of points. I would bet my sandwich that you’re missing a point as I am typing this.
You should change your handle to “Imisspoints” or something.
Or “Ms.Points” so it looks more like a name.
If you’re so sure I’m an ignorant bigot prove me wrong! I haven’t even seen you TRY to disprove me with concrete evidence yet. So shut up.
Ok, i guess that makes sense, it’s just kind of a non-sequitur.
Democrats would treat Lincoln just like any other Republican if he were alive today.
A lot of dems don’t even know he was a Republican.
Everyone knows lincoln was a republican, the republicans won’t shut up about it. But guess what? The republican party has changed over 120 or so years! Now it is quickly approaching a policy of fascism, it’s really sad to see that happening.
P.S. Also the modern Democrat party didn’t exist in the 1800’s
When were Byrd and Reed born? Its got to be the 1800s.
What? Try using complete sentences.
Modern, but ancient, Democrat leaders Robert Byrd and Harry Reed. Humor, or as they say in Ukraine, gumor. Take a deep calming breath, let it out. Ah, better.
It doesn’t really matter whether or not the parties existed back then, they couldn’t possibly be the same as the originals.
Both parties have changed drastically. Read David David McCullough’s “John Adams” and “1776″.
In fact, delve into history to the point that it’s an obsession, and amaze your friends and family.
The extreme of Republicanism is Anarchy. The extreme of liberalism is complete government control, i.e., socialism, fascism.
We need each other to keep the balance from tipping.
I hereby award you one shiny, bronzed internet. You win.
BTW, both very good books
Are you still here?
Yes I am, why do you ask?
I’m having trouble finding any instances of people agreeing with or appreciating your general presence. Nope. None. So yeah, that’s probably a good sign you should head on to greener pastures.
As in, GTFO.
hugs no1askedme dont listen to the yapping lil gnome, bitter troll loves you
It’s good that you don’t care if people like you, because nobody does.
You’re rubber I’m glue, and all!
I have great hopes that No1askedme will turn to conservatism and Christianity eventually. Logic and patience will drag him from the darkside
I will pray for you anyway.
Do what you will, I don’t care. You will not escape my scrutiny.
nor you mine… rawr.
Very well, it would seem we are fated to argue to the end of the Earth. So be it, I like the challenge.
I think I’ll pray for him too.
I think it was back on the “I like your Christ”-lol that I mentioned the aggressive religious “I will pray for you”. Some people seemed incredulous as to anyone doing that, but I think we see two examples of that here.
You could always not pray for me. That would show me.
Ah, but then that would be passive aggression…
My comment really wasn’t aimed at you personally. I placed it as a reply to your post to make it more clear which replies I was referring to as examples of something that I once claimed happens and others claimed to never have noticed.
?? for odumba —
since i’m pagan, how would you feel if i said i was praying to my gods and goddesses that you’d see the light and come over to my way of believing?
but the dark side has cookies
But the cake is a lie…
Ocakema!
Now he’s just a liar…
Oshakeandbakema!
All politicians lie.
Tea and cake or DEATH!
Oh wait, wrong guy. Never mind.
HEY! That’s MY line! No troll will steal my lines!!!
Who are you anyway? Socky McSockerton!
Nope, I dont assume you’re an atheist, you have mentioned it many times before. But, one who searches for truth will ultimately find it. You just started out quite disoriented. Eventually I think you will get your bearings.
LOL, truth is in the eye of the beholder my “friend”. All things are relative and we all see the world differently. I live my life based on logic, there is no evidence as to the existence of God, nor is there evidence to the contrary; based on this I conclude that God probably doesn’t exist and therefore religion is impractical. Even if I saw conclusive evidence that your religion was “correct”, I wouldn’t follow it because I’m no ones puppet to command; I have a will of my own and I will not be denied my right to be who I am. Your kind will never control me or break my will, I’m one persistent SOB. Believe in your God if you want, I don’t care; but NEVER preach your delusions as the truth.
live long, and prosper
You’ve never even investigated the God of the bible, have you?
Yes, I’ve read significant portions of it and I even have christian friends. The Bible doesn’t, however, prove anything. It’s only a book. Besides, what makes your Bible so much more right than the Torah or the Koran? For that matter, what makes you think it’s true at all? There’s limited evidence to support anything it says, and it’s been “tweaked” multiple times in the past by the church. Look, I didn’t attack your faith did I? I just said I don’t personally like it, I never said you were wrong or anything. So stop attacking my personal beliefs now or I’ll fight back.
I’m not attacking you, I just asked a question… That’s all. I believe the bible because it’s the only one that says that God came down as a man and died for us. He even said that was why he was here, and that he was the only way. None of the others say that. All the others say YOU have to do something to gain entrance to heaven, the bible says HE has already done it. I studied all the others too… They are nice ways to live, but I don’t believe they are complete, that’s all. If you are happy with what you believe I’m not attacking you, but you asked me so…
Ok, I see your point. Sorry about snapping at you like that, I don’t have the best social skills so I tend to misinterpret what people say. I don’t fully understand all the nuances of the christian faith, because to be honest I have little interest in it, but I can accept that you choose to believe in it. I honestly don’t care what people believe as long as they can accept that other views exist and they don’t try to push their own on others.
I would never PUSH my views on anyone, I may talk about it though. I hope I never lose that freedom in this country.
I’m sorry, I jumped to conclusions a few comments back. I just tend to be defensive because I’m paranoid. But to be fair, that whole “dark side” comment was a little inflammatory.
Oh, I take everything in here as a joke, you can’t get to upset over what someone says over the internet… Anyway it’s nice talking to you, you make an effort to discuss and understand which is admirable. I leave now to troll another day!!
Go forth and Troll on!
Those who are about to troll, salute you!!
Oh, hey, It turns out I got some of odumbaday’s posts mixed up with yours! That’s why I was so rude, odumbaday’s the real fascist, not you. Sorry for the confusion.
I’m not a fan of either of them.
Meh, it would seem that odumba is just an opinionated individual who trolls because he can. odumbaday is as dumb as his name suggests.
Since no one asked you, why do you keep talking?
I feel I have something to contribute. All courtesy be damned, I’ll say what’s on my mind.
You will find that the study of logic teaches that there is truth, and truth is not relative, but absolute.
Will is an interesting thing. Christianity does not necessarily teach that having it is a virtue.
What? Where the buggery did you study logic?
Logic dictates that, being human, our perceptions are imperfect and therefore we can never fully comprehend truth. Learn to use logic.
The study of logic doesn’t actually say there is an absolute truth overall >.> I’m not saying you shouldn’t try to use it to prove such things, but the study of logic is not the same as the study or metaphysics or epistemology. the study of logic doesnt say what is and is not absolute truth, just how to find it.
You are someone’s puppet…just not God’s.
Logic = “there is no evidence as to the existence of God, nor is there evidence to the contrary; based on this I conclude that God probably doesn’t exist”? (but not that God probably does exists?)
You’re saying that you can’t prove either so you don’t believe in God? How is that logic?
How could it be logical to believe in everything you cannot disprove? Do you believe I have sock-eating gnomes in my sock drawer?
Depends…is there a Gideon’s Bible in there too?
I try to keep books away from my drawers!
Everyone knows those live in the dryer.
No, dryers just create portals to Narnia sometimes.
For me, it’s mostly because I reject morality as pointless. I totally see what you mean, but it’s very hard to express my thought processes in words, so sometimes I leave bits out. I just don’t see a reason to believe in a God, is that so wrong?
I believe there is a fallacy connected to this. More or less existence requires proof, non existence does not. there are many many things that don’t exist that do not have to prove it. If i told you giant purple hippos don’t exist, you wouldn’t question it, because you’ve never seen one or evidence of one, therefor it doesnt exist.
Some things can even be disproved. If i say there is a monster under my bed that turns the sky yellow. you can check under the bed to see lack of evidence, and point to the sky to contradict the example i used for the existence of it.
Now god is obviously more complicated, but like all things we need evidence that god exists. A book doesn’t count. There have been many books claiming a fictional character to be real. It’s a circular argument. You need outside justification.
Personally i don’t believe in an actually God. I find the idea to be logically inconsistent, but i’m not saying it’s better or worse or you are terrible people for believing. I just wanted to explain why “there is no evidence of God, therefor god must not exist” is logically valid.
Ha! Sorry, I just find statements like this to be funny, the Tao Te Ching says the same thing, but comes to a very different conclusion. But it’s alright, you’ll find the truth eventually.
I believe it probably says somerthing like you have to sit and meditate and transend the duality of the physical world until you reach a state of nirvana. The physical world is not real, it’s something you created with your attachments…. Am I close?
Confusing thoughts confuse me. I helps to hear them in context I think.
no not particularly. That seems closer to Buddhism but i know less of that so i can’t say for sure.
It’s more along the lines of the universe is perfect, there is no good, there is no evil, therefore it is good. Finding harmony in yourself and the universe. being a general good person, giving without asking for anything in return…it goes over many things in its 81 verses.
I find it interesting how in many places you can interchange the tao and god to get a very christian vibe, but at the same time there are passages that are at odds with the mentality.
For instance christians feel you need jesus to “fill you up” where as the tao has verse eleven describe how that emptiness or non being is where you find use.
I’d suggest reading it sometime if you ever wanted to try and understand it, like any philosophy, you’ll never get a cookie cutter simple summary with the tao, particularly if zen is involved.
“It’s more along the lines of the universe is perfect, there is no good, there is no evil, therefore it is good.”
Hmmm. You kind of threw me there… If there is no good and evil, then how is that therefore good?
What about the universe is perfect, there IS good and evil and we are hear to learn to chose the good path? I think these older religions are beautiful and have a lot of validity, but they are just incomplete. Maybe I will read that, I did study a bit about Zen but mostly modern writers, I don’t recall that particular scripture…
I’ve always held the opinion all things just sort of are. “Good” and “bad” don’t make any kind of logical sense, but they can exist in the sense of personal contexts. I prefer to judge things based on the merits of equality.
It threw me at first as well. it’s something that really clicks when you get it and it’s very hard to explain properly.
The universe is not good or evil, it just is, but there is good and evil, people are inherantly good and evil comes when they do not have an internal harmony.
I appreciate other religions for the structure they give people and the general guide, but i find many problems pop up when you try to define things too much. If your goodness must be validated by an external source then some begin to think they are better than others, and that leads to some big problems in history. I’m not saying everyone does this. I’m just saying it happens.
However personification does make for some interesting almost funny parts in the bible. like Yahweh meeting moses on a road to kill him Exodus 4:24
The origin of Taoism
ha! I like that one.
Almost as good as the jesus superfriends ep of southpark. Lao-tzu had the best superpower
Funny!
LOL, I like it!
PHBLTTTTTTT.
Did you just laughoutloudoutlaughoutloudoutlaughoutloud? It sure looked like it.
In reference to your final sentence above, it would be “is fascist”, as “religious right” is a single entity, though composed of many people.
You are a bad person. Not for being athiest, but for being a sheep. You have no idea why you hate everyone who opposes your views but you make sure to let them know.
You so strongly believe in someone else’ view without ever bothering to form your own view.
You defeat your own argument before you begin when you have an ignorant, hateful attitude towards everyone who doesn’t think the way you do.
All these signs point to you most likely being a fascist. A cross dressing one, at that.
I’M NO THE SHEEP HERE, YOU ARE! Never EVER call me anyones puppet ever again! All my views are my own, if you don’t like them that’s your opinion but NEVER say I’m not thinking for myself. I’m not hateful towards other ideas, I’m fascinated by them and only wish to understand them. What I hate is when people tell me I’m wrong because my ideas are different! YOUR STATEMENT APPLIES MORE TO YOURSELF THAN IT DOES TO ME! Also, nice “lul ur a gai librul moron lulz.” comment at the end there, it really helps me prove my point. What if I was a cross dresser, would that be so wrong? Strange maybe, but I wouldn’t be hurting anyone would I?
besides womens clothing so comfy!
First off, you’re a moron. I just need to point that out. Okay, now I can continue.
You are clearly not fascinated when you respond to everyone’s opinion with your “anti-neo-con witch hunt”
I also never said “lul ur a gai librul moron lulz” or even that in English.
I said you’re a fascist cross dresser. I suppose you made the connection between fascism and liberalism all on your own.
The cross dressing part was to add to the sarcasm and humor. I really don’t care if people cross dress, although it can get very confusing in my mass-mating ceremonies. Well, I guess those are confusing enough as it is.
I love how blinded you are with your own rhetoric. You congratulate yourself for being open minded but when someone opposes your view they are tossed into a heaping pile of “neo-cons” regardless of what they believe in.
Keep failing at having an open mind. It makes it more fun to talk to you.
and wear womens thongs!
I can’t even believe how conceited you are. That’s all I have to say to you.
Conceited? Are you pulling adjectives out of your rear now? I have no idea how you would translate my post above into “conceited”.
I’m worried that you’re not firing on all cylinders.
You’ve made very little sense so far, mostly ignorant insults.
kind of hard to be a sheep and an atheist at the same time – jebezzuz is the shepard, his followers are his flock, a flock is comprised of sheep — since an atheist isn’t his follower, the sheep description isn’t very apt
I see DBS is alive and well
DBS?
“Deranged Bush Syndrome” i.e. Bush was (is) the Alpha of all badness and the Omega of all goodness in this world.
Oh, I always heard it pronounce Bush Derangement Syndrome…
That’s probably it. Been up for over 24hrs and not hitting on all cylinders.
But Obama is the Light, the Truth and the only Way to mankind becoming beings of pure energy! The seas are lowering, children are singing, Muslims are praying in the White House, birds and cats loving each other and we all must thank the All Merciful and Potent Obama- praise be his name!
Wow, you need to either be taking more medication, or less medication…
If you disagree, you are a RACIST!!!!!!!!
lolwut? I don’t worship Obama, but I think he’s at least trying to fix the mess we’re in. You don’t have to like it but don’t take it out on everyone else. Calm down.
Never seemed to have lost its strength.
People still acting like rabid dogs at the very name of George Bush. Such people need serious help.
Yeah, seriously. He may have screwed up, but it’s not like he deliberately wrecked the county’s economy. I may not like him but some people really need to calm down about him. This LOL isn’t very funny anyways…
Bush jokes? Still? Honestly, I’m finding more to poke fun at in the current administration than the old one. (Of course you’d never see them here…)
What’s next Pundit? Clinton sex jokes? Yawn.
Abe suspended habeas corpus FYI.
He did have a good reason FYI.
no funny things about Obama?
There is a TOTUS blog written by his TelePrompTer, he’s starting look like Barney Fife. He has many misguided fans that do thing in his name that he himself has not sanctioned, and yet, gets the blame for (can we say “Mm mm mm”?)
He himself has made fun of his own ears, He’s mocked himself more than the press or his fans have.
Making Obama LOL’s here is like drawing pictures of Allah- the Obamanites go bat-sh*t crazy and want to kill you.
…Chicago-style.
If Bush is so evil and/or stupid, and yet got a Democrat-led Congress in 2001 to be on board for the war in Iraq, what does that say about Congress?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueler?
That they believed The Shrubs lies just like the American people? Just sayin’.
LOL. Yeah, how quickly they forget…
It wasn’t Democrat-led. It was pretty much 50-50. The House of Rep. had a Republican majority. Voting for the Iraq War Resolution in 2002:
House – 96% of Republicans, 39% of Democrats
Senate – 98% of Republicans, 58% of Democrats
INTERNET FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bush jokes just never get old, do they? I mean, this will be funny many, many years from now. I’m so glad the MSM has the boldness to always tell the truth without slanting it for the benefit of a particular ideology. That would have been pathetic if they had! But clearly they didn’t. They always gave a clear picture and didn’t cloud the issues, or paint any politician in a particular light–just the light of truth. I’ll always respect Dan Rather and Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson for always putting their own personal politics behind them, and just focusing on the concrete facts of what was happening and what had, in fact, happened. They were so courageous for doing that. CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC were just packed with news professionals with a passion for the truth who never compromised on cold, hard facts to bring what was really true out into the open. Again and again their decisive, lucid, and transparent reporting showed a brave, unrelenting search for veracity, and absolutely never compromised their 24/7 truth-telling for anything but the facts. A blessing upon their heads and may their unwavering search for the TRUTH compel them to continue likewise.
Yeah, well, if they’d really done their jobs, we wouldn’t have invaded Iraq.
We invaded Iraq because we had been attacked by radical Islamic terrorist. If it turned out the SH had had WMDs after all and they had gotten into the hands of any terrorist, how do you think we would have felt getting hit again? I don’t think they could have been too careful and GWB did a great job keeping us safe all those years after 9/11.
That’s bullshít. Didn’t you get the memo? Lawd! I can’t believe you’re still making those ridiculous claims.
We weren’t attacked by radical Islamic terrorists? Selective memory? Or are you one of those idiotic “truthers”? It’s not a CLAIM, it happened, it’s called “history”. You should try reading about that sometime.
Exactly. That, and the fact that Iran had nothing to do with 9/11. (No, I’m not a truther, but I am a she.)
Are you on your menstrual period today?
Godwin’s law, the sexist variant.
Allow me to reply to Sheesh in typical troll fashion with a matching sexist font: “Nice reply, does it come in MEN’S!?”
Pointless comment is pointless.
He wouldn’t have needed to go on the offensive if we had not been attacked, would he? You can hardly blame him for the actions of terrorists, who btw, are begining to just get started again from the looks of things we can probably expect another attack soon because they know now no one will stop them.
You’re an ignorant ass. All evidence suggests Al Quida is falling apart, not growing. Also, we had no reason to invade Iraq, that’s what we’re talking about.
as long as crazy violent people are allowed to be in groups togther, terrorists will be around. they may join other groups or kill people for other reasons, but they will be around
MIAMI – Seven people were arrested Thursday in connection with the early stages of a plot to attack Chicago’s Sears Tower and other buildings in the U.S., federal law-enforcement sources told NBC News….
Click on my name – if you don’t think they are influenced by Al Qeda then you are delluded.
You believe the news? Really? Look, the news is just being sensationalistic. Scared people watch the news, their ratings go up, they get paid more. Look elsewhere for your “evidence”, the new companies cannot be trusted.
*sigh*…the NEWS companies cannot be trusted.
Are you talking about the homeless guys from three years ago? They didn’t even have shoes! That was another joke, courtesy of Alberto Gonzales.
For the love of God, Bush is no longer president. Could you people please move on now?
You first.
not until the republicans bring forth someone better & with more staying power to make fun of.
They have to do something to deflect attention from the crap job Obama is doing.
Obama hasn’t screwed up at all yet moron. He hasn’t even been in office for a year yet, so shut up! Fixing the economy will take some time, and he always said it would.
but but but obama is not takeing fast and easy ways to repair the economy, ways that will just wind up hurting us far worse later on! and he’s not makeing sound bites that make me feel good and glittery like a emo vampire. he must be doing a bad job then, oh and he’s a evil double secret muslim. and his Revernd from his christain church is racist.
Pouring money into the economy IS the easy way out and will hurt us in the future even worse. The hard way out, where everyone tightens their belts, pays off their debts and works hard for the future, that is the hard way and the better way for the future.
Let me guess. You’re a Nobel Prize-winning economist.
You don’t have to be to understand how you get out of debt, pay off your bills, work hard, save and invest. Anyone can do it and it will pay off in the end, but no one wants to, everyone wants to be a millionaire, right now, no one wants to work hard anymore, everyone wants all the goodies now, upfront. That in my opinion is what is screwing our economy.
No one wants to work hard? Everyone wants to be a millionaire? That includes you, then.
Nope. He has left his lasting legacy. He who wrecked the economy worse than Reagan, spent billions on a useless war while the real battlefield went fallow, etc, etc.
Oh, and, just in case you forgot; the repubs were blaming 9/11 on Clinton as far back as 2006.
Remind me again who is sending the national deficit over 2 TRILLION dollars in a few months…Oh that’s right, it’s Obama.
Obama’s administration has only contributed 18% to the total national debt. All the bills passed under his administration, save ONE, were holdovers from the Bush administration. Besides, isn’t the capitalist motto “You’ve got to spend money to make money?
No- That’s Obama’s motto
No, it’s not. You’re an idiot. His motto is and always has been “We need change.” I know it, you know it, make sense or shut up.
No1, its obvious this guy named himself after the verbal response he always gets when he opens his mouth…
but him’s name not shut up you retard before i slap you for being so retard you retard.
He must have “changed” his motto! lol!!
What? You’re not making sense?
little do you guys know, bush and cheny man are both checking their johnny quest two-way video wrist coms. not watches..those things dont tell time. they are just chatting with their wives
made my day lol :p
One of the people in this photo is repsonsible for more American deaths than any other person.
Hint ~ He is not checking his watch.
He sure is a leader alright. He took away the right to habeus corpus, but that doesn’t matter. Right?
would have been funnier without the “and one of them is not checking his watch” comment. Good laugh though. thanks!
but cheney is not checking his watch, he’s useing hs johnny socko two way wrist video com to tell the giant robot to fight the terrorists