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Wanna know what I’d do? I’d walk right up to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and slap their lips right off their faces. THAT’S WHAT REAGAN WOULD DO!
(Ronald Reagan)
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Actually…Reagan was a HUGE Limbaugh supporter. I think he gave him some kind of award during his term. Hell, Limbaugh and Hannity exist because of Reagan.
What is this crap?? This isn’t funny, and is a blatant lie!
Sean Hannity is a Regan conservative and believes everything Regan stood for. The only person he would be slapping is Obama for hiking the taxes, and no Obama hasn’t raised them much yet(technically he has though), and your living in a hole somewhere if you don’t think inflation and higher taxes aren’t coming.
As for you who will blame Bush till ya die, he did have a rescission that we woulda been out of months ago if Obama hadn’t spent all this money(that he doesn’t have). The reason Bush had such a deficit, is cause he was busy protecting us, while all Obama can do is spend money like Michael Jackson.
Very true! You tell em! Everything that President Reagan fought for, Limbaugh and Hannity fight for daily!
Classic leftie revisionism. Before a conservative dies, he’s a scary, scary boogeyman. After he’s been dead a couple years, he becomes lionized and LIVING conservatives are proclaimed as not living up to his sterling example.
Same thing happened with Goldwater, Taft, etc…
It’s “you’re”, not “your”.
Until you can use the language correctly, you can be ignored.
“your living in a hole somewhere if you don’t think inflation and higher taxes aren’t coming”
Even if it had said “you’re”, it’s a double negative. I am assuming Droid4 meant to say that you are living in a hole if you don’t think inflation and higher taxes are coming, yada, yada.
So yeah, I agree with you. ;p
I saw that too. Thought that it was a rather peculiar little Freudian slip.
And Droid, you’re starting a flamewar where one doesn’t even EXIST, nor need be started, over Obama’s fiscal policies. GO TOUCH A WEASEL’S ANUS AND LICK YOUR FINGERS. If you’re going to do sh*t like this, that’s actually a better waste of your time.
You dirty boy.
Leave the weasel ALLOOOOONNNNE!
He should beware of the Animal Activists!!
Except that they aren’t “coming”–they’re already HERE.
Dubya was VERY right-wing. Whether that’s good or bad is irrelevant–he did more for right-wing policies and ideology than anybody else since Reagan. While Obama’s more liberal than Dubya was, that’s really not saying very much–and, if you look at his actions, he’s proposing as little change as possible during those brief moments he’s actually doing his job rather than posing for the cameras.
So, in other words, anybody who thinks there’s been a liberal US President within the past thirty years is living in a hole somewhere–we ditched the last one to elect the man in this very picture =P
I’d kind of agree with that.
Clinton was very left wing but a Right Wing Congress brought him closer to the middle which did some good things for this country.
Obama, however, is Jimmy Carter 2.0.
Speaking as someone who has spent a lot of time in colleges, gone to parties in Cambridge, MA (the ‘left bank’ of Boston), visited relatives in Europe, and has attended conferences in women’s studies, I think I can pretty definitively say that neither Bill Clinton nor Barak Obama are “very left wing”. If you truly think so, you need to get out more!
Well in the larger spectrum of left to right, Obama and Bush (and Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc.) are a lot closer to each other than most Americans realize.
And considering how much he expanded government, George W. Bush cannot be called a true conservative or right-wing. Sorry.
yeppers. Left/right is also very context-dependent… “conservative” is very much closer to the middle ground in the USA. In Europe, the left is more the middle ground.
I huge chunks of the world “left” and “right” don;t even have the same definitions and the question is completely different
Obama is Jimmy Carter 2.0? What does that make you? Pong?
Yeeeeeaaaaahhhh…. on a website built on lolspeak, it’s really worthwhile to get your panties in a bunch over a typo.
Sorry, “get you’re panties in a bunch over a typo”. Does that make you feel good?
I wasn’t complaining about your/you’re. And lolspeak is not standard on any of the sibling sites but ICHC and IHAH.
No. No, that does not make me feel good. Does that make you feel good?
Ver are you’re papers!!!
I svear.. I left zem at ze dock, sir! Please, do not put me back in zat hellhole!
Papers? Hey, man, I only have a pipe.
I love my pipe, but the bubbler rulz.
Don’t you mean “vere are your papers?!!”
AHA!! Spy!! Guards, shoot this man!! *gunfire*
I like your guy’s strategy, completely ignore the statement I made(which was controversial, but I haven’t made a big comment like that in weeks), and instead hammer me about one bad sentence?
I’m fine with ya disagreeing, why can’t ya just put your thoughts instead of mocking one grammar issue?(I had no sleep last night, sue me)
It was controversial?
He totally misspelled “annoying.”
So very.
Obama isn’t mentioned here, and you know that every time he’s dragged into a comment somewhere, the trolls ride in. Couldn’t we just argue Reagan, Droid? I’m sick and tired of seeing trolls be burned for unreasonable statements about Obama nowadays, and would rather see them be burned for being hypocrites regarding Reagan.
Ahhhh, come on. I was just getting the brautwurst ready for the grill.
i had a big lunch, can we postpone the cookout until later when i’m hungry again?
Zere vill be no vaiting in ze People’s Republic of Shiny Happinez!
Ve vill all have ze cheezburgers! Eat! Now! Lunch is almost over, you vill need it for ze work camps!
Ze kittehs ate all ze cheezburgers and we took pictures and made ze captions. Vhat is next, Herr Trogdor?
VERK HARDER! HARDER, TROGDOR TELLSETH YOU! NOW! YOU!
YES!
TEENAGE FEMALE!
Back to my quarters, eh…?
(5 minutes late, bleeding badly and bruises swelling rapidly) Sweet baby Jesus, I can’t even get laid in my dictatorship fantasies!
your guy’s or you guys’?
Good comment, let’s ignore people’s ideas because they forgot a simple grammar rule. GRAMMAR NAZI’S ARE GO!
This isn’t just an isolated incident, Gale.
Droid frequently misspells things, or makes grammatical mistakes, but that’s not the problem. It’s the fact that he repeatedly tells us he doesn’t care, and never, ever fixes it. The problem is that he sends the message that he actually makes it seem like he doesn’t know how to use the English language. And when you’re arguing on a forum about politics, you can at least try to represent yourself well- otherwise, people are going to judge you like an idiot who isn’t intelligent enough to use the language correctly, and will treat you as such. He knows that, but makes the decisions anyway, and chooses that his argument suffer the penalty anyway.
I don’t think you actually need that apostrophe in the word Nazis.
That’s correct, Eric. Unless Frozen Gale was trying to form a possessive noun, the apostrophe in Nazi’s is incorrect.
TO ZEE OVENZZZ!!!!!!!
Ze bad grammar az you say, ist verboten in Deutschland.
But first, ve must have your documentation. How can ve verify vitout proper documentation?
Vhat!? Superfluous apostrophe!? Ready Zee Firing SKvaaaad!
Vee have vays….ov correcting zee grammar…
Prepare….Ze Scarlet Apostrophe…
Stop criticizing the minute details instead of the issue. There are thousands of supporters on both sides that make grammar mistakes (especially young, idealistic Democrats who use MySpace and such). So be quiet before you start sounding like an ignorant douche. (Whoops, too late…and yes, I know what a douche actually is if you want to cop me out on that.)
R-e-a-g-a-n. At the very least spell your hero’s name right. And there’s no way in hell we would’ve been out of this “rescission” if Obama hadn’t done the bailouts and stimulus. That’s just silly.
You are out of the recession? Oh, so you are the one.
Heh. I sure as hell am not out of the recession.
We sure did get out of the rescission, Justa. I’m not sure when it was rescinded, but there you have it. Rescinded.
Thank you charro – finally someone who knows the difference between recession and rescission.
*giggles* Sure. Happy to help. But it poses the question: How do we rescind the rescission on the recession? LOL
Unless, of course, he’s talking about Donald Regan, Reagan’s Treasury Secretary and Chief of Staff.
That’d be a weird guy to have as your hero, but to each his own.
I thought that was Donald Duck..?
You have no idea what you’re talking about. The two largest increases in the US national debt in the past thirty years occurred under Republican presidents. http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Obama is stuck with a recession that started before he was elected and he’s opted for a quasi- Keynsian approach to getting out of it. Yes, that means big deficits and an increase in the debt. The alternative solution…the von Hayek approach, is to cut taxes but also slash spending, which would reduce the budgets for entitlement programs, public welfare and subsidized industries. Either way is painful. Von Hayek says you take the pain now. Keynes says you take the pain later. But correcting a recession is always painful.
You’re an artard.
Little, arguing a point is always welcome, but just insulting people takes a special kind of immaturity that tells us “I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about, since I can’t prove my point, but I disagree with you!”.
You’re a fartard!!
“which would reduce the budgets for entitlement programs, public welfare and subsidized industries.”
just a little FYI regarding “budget cuts”, discussing budget cuts and tax cuts without explaining exactly how badly the DoD will be effected is little more than a special form of lying. linky
Protecting us from a country that had no weapons of mass destruction, nor any desire to attack us? Good job, Bush! Thanks!
Which is clearly why Clinton attacked Bosnia. Thanks for clearing that up!
Kosovo!
Great reply! Glad to know there are some smart people out there still!!
So somehow it’s Obama’s fault that Dubya let the banks over-lend, using over-priced commodities in a bubble market as “security”, and it all went pear-shaped before he was even inaugurated?
The 2 economies which have had the worst recessions and are coming out slowest are the 2 where these mistakes were most prevelant.
I know people who were saying that housing was over-priced 5 years ago, and that the bubble needed bursting soo 3 years ago.
Try again, it’s ‘recession’. And this recession is due to actions that Bush did, or did not, take while he was president — deregulating financial institutions, spending BILLIONS on an unnecessary war, and on and on and on……….
You might think about picking up a newspaper rather than believing all the crap that people like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and the rest of the Faux News hacks spoon feed you!
Yeah, Reagan was a big supporter of Limbaugh.
fail
The Right shouldn’t be allowed to just make sh17 up, and neither should the Left. (However I do believe injecting a little honesty into American politics would probably cause a cataclysmic explosion.)
Everything I’ve ever heard about the rise of the Religious Right in the US says that Reagan was the start of it. And the way the Right idolises him (Saint Ronnie, the right-wing version of the Kennedy left-wing wet dream) shows it.
Don’t go putting words in the dead bastard’s mouth, he didn’t just approve of right-wing hate-jockeys, he created them!
You, Sir, are correct.
‘Right-wing hate-jockeys’? Wow. Good thing people like Cindy Sheehan and Jane Fonda even out the field.
Well, idiots like you worship that POS (that is “piece of shit”) Obama. Do NOT call Reagan a “dead bastard” You dispise him because he was against the garbage you probably wallow in. Maybe YOU should look to the right before that POS Obama pulls you into hell.
Well, he -is- a dead bastard. He is most assuredly dead, and he was an utter bastard. If(a) and (b) then (ab).
Of course he’s a ‘bastard,’ everything you have come to believe is true. And, yes, there is a spoon.
Yeah! the fairness doctrine was killed under reagan, allowing all these right-wing bloviators to spin their lies!! reagan wouldnt have slapped them – he would have kissed them. We could use a good dose of Harry Truman to tell them all off!
The “Fairness Doctrine” is contradictory to its name. It did nothing more than stifle any kind of true free speech. Love them or hate them, conservative talk shows are more popular than liberal ones. Case in point, Air America went belly up even after getting huge injections of capital from hosts like Al Franken.
I do, however, agree with Grumpy, if any semblance of honesty was introduced into American politics, there would be a blast larger than an atomic bomb.
I also agree that neither side should be allowed to make things up. That’s the main reason I do watch Fox News more than most other outlets. I’m sorry, but when a, supposed, news outlet blatantly states that they lean wholly to one side of the political spectrum, they are no longer unbiased. Granted, Fox News is a conservative outlet, but they do bring on opinions, and shows, that vary greatly from their ideals.
“I also agree that neither side should be allowed to make things up. That’s the main reason I do watch Fox News more than most other outlets.”
“It did nothing more than stifle any kind of true free speech.”
Just putting your sentences in correct order.
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Heh heh. Good one, Igor.
Not suprised.
Damnit. The first one didn’t work. Look up “Bill O’Reilly- shut up!”
Conservative talk shows are more popular because the right requires constant validation of its opinions and someone to tell them which target they need to point their fingers and shriek at. The left, on the other hand, is comfortable with itself and its views and doesn’t need big media daddy to make it all better for them.
No, it’s because most leftists have the attention span of squirrels and can’t listen to actual thoughts for more than a few seconds.
No, it’s because you’re both trolls who have no actual argument besides insulting the other side. You’re both acting like idiots. Generalizations like the ones you two are making have no basis in fact and make you both look like assholes. I can see why Rattus makes the explanation, even if it is fantasy douchebaggery, but Is it so hard?, if you really felt the NEED to dignify it with a reply, grow UP. These statements are both stupid, with logic so archaic it’s similar to that of Monty Python witch tests.
I felt that both arguments were of the “I know you are but what am I?” school of debating. They might possibly one day attain the “I’m rubber and you’re glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you” level, but they’re not quite there yet.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but the Internet will never hurt me.
Unless you run into Freakazoid…
Let me be the first one to say OW!
He’s unemployed.
I have noticed that most of the “so called lies” that the Conservative talk shows are based on some truth. The host read and do their home work on the subjects that they are talking about. Case in point, the proposed health care reform. If you are debating it (for or against) have you read what it really says? Most of what you see on the major news channels doesn’t tell the whole truth about what is really in it and how it is going to effect our lives in the next few years.
But then again they are just spreading lies right, or are they really telling people the truth? Just something to think about next time you hear one of these “so called lies”. (It might really be the truth.)
Okay, first of all, when you write so called “lies”, type it like that. That way you’re not implying that the major news networks are calling them “so called lies” in their counterarguments. That would make it a double negative and totally defeat your point.
Anyway, how can you trust a host to tell you the truth if you don’t check up on it in the first place? If you’re going to make an argument, don’t base it on “it might be true, but I haven’t checked.”
You’ll just sound like a f*cking idiot.
I don’t trust anything that anyone tells me on TV. Except Keith Olbermann because that man is NEVER wrong! NEVER!
Let the LSD flow!
Better living through chemicals I always say!
So that’s what’s holding Lindsey up! :O
bitter troll’s hand, and booze
I thought that was for Billy Joel.
*gets in line and holds out hand* LSD, please.
-gives charro lsd- tell bitter troll what the colors taste like, and the flavor of the music please
*pupils get all dilated* Colors? Taste like ampersand. Musical flavour is go.
And BT, the answer to your question is NORTH and WEST added together but not NORTHWEST.
tell bitter troll how many lobsters he is holding up?
I can see through time.
give bitter troll lotto numbers
Pfft. I’ve never taken LSD and I know good and well that colors taste like umlaut, not ampersand.
Listen, Rando you imposter, just because you’ve never taken LSD doesn’t mean that Q Schlumpfenhausen McSmrtypanz the third.
You have notices? Really? What are they about? Are we going to have to start wearing uniforms? Man, that’s gonna suck, I just bought a whole new back to school outfit.
We’ve got these new ones some old school in England threw away. Now, the liberals get to wear the ones that say “Gryffindor” on them, the conservatives get to wear the ones that say “Slytherin” on them, and the moderates get the “Hufflepuff” ones. And BT gets the “Ravenclaw” one for reasons I don’t know.
OH!!!! I saw the Harry Potter exhibit just yesterday and it was AWESOME!!!!!! /fangirl squee
What is this Harry Potter exhibit you speak of? I think my wife would like to see this. She’s a much bigger Potter fan than I am.
bitter troll will now fondly remember lindsy lohans harry potter skit on SNL…Mmmmmmmm….
Right now it’s in Chicago but it’s a really great variety of props and costumes from all six movies. It was set up really well and I was close enough to touch Alan Rickman’s costume and Gary Oldman’s pimp-ass velvet coat if I was inclined to get thrown out of the museum. Next it’s going to Boston.
*sniff* Janie came to Chicago and didn’t say hi to charro..
*hugs to fellow fangirl*
my 2nd date with the guy i’m seeing we went to see HP6. i’d already seen it once before…
when HP7pt1 comes out i’m going to be one of those douche bags standing in line to get tickets to the first show. and god knows when HP7pt2 comes out i’m going to damn near piss myself in excitement.
hello everyone, my name is shortright and i’m a harry potter-aholic.
That’s a LOT of LSD, dude.
well lindsy likes her LSD…
…and grease.
I call the “Gryfflepinclaw” badge!
Because I’m TROGDOR, my belly is filled with trolls of every stripe!
Don’t get sworded by the house heirloom, kid.
Em Hogwarts is actually in Scotland (evidence, the Hogwards Express travels North out of King’s Cross in London, travels West over Glenfinnan viaduct (and if you’ve done that you’re heading for a terminus), and the land around the school looks like the Glenfinnan monument would if you removed the monument and viaduct).
Doesn’t this mean that the conservatives are evil?
And you jumped on me for insulting someone? What was it you said… Oh yeah
Little, arguing a point is always welcome, but just insulting people takes a special kind of immaturity that tells us “I clearly don’t know what I’m talking about, since I can’t prove my point, but I disagree with you!”.
Pot meet kettle
It’s not insulting to tell two people that their arguments are the intellectual equivalent of a food fight. What’s the matter, did the 16 year old hurt your widdle feelings?
I think you’re a little confused.
Mocking someone for having no counterargument except to troll and insult others isn’t quite a viable comparison to someone who only posts “artard”.
Just so you can tell the difference next time, people who point out that someone or a group of people are acting like idiot trolls =/= someone who only trolls or insults others.
I save my politcal arguments for places where they matter. Not a silly website.
However, since you’re obviously just a kid I can see why my comment would bother you.
Doesn’t bother me, but it does frustrate me that such a large portion of people are unable to reason with anything other than an insult. Intelligence and reasoned, logical lines of thinking? I’ve been insulted for them before, and I’m not about to stop arguing my points, just because you say they don’t matter on this site. Personally, I think you’re an asshat if you “save your political arguments for places where they matter”, then choose to insult someone for their political belief instead. You’re still arguing your political belief, but you’re making it look bad. Represent your opinion with facts, logic, and proof why it’s right, not an insult. You’ll make whatever you’re representing look much less trollish/extremist/obnoxious if you show them someone who’s willing to talk. Otherwise, you aren’t winning anybody over.
Basic diplomacy there.
I believe that a well structured, very articulate sentence containing the word “asshat” causes you to look like the insulter, not the insulted. It must be pointed out, you have yet to present the “facts, logic, and proof”(by the way you don’t have to have the “,” after “and” when forming a list. Save yourself some key strokes) for the very views you are defending here. You have simply carried on with the “i knows my engrish better than yous do” insult slug-fest! Is this not the lolcats website? Am I lost?
“littletelari says:
August 17, 2009 at 12:38 pm
You’re an artard.”
You might have missed that, the reason he’s so angry is that I called him out on trolling when that’s all he said responding to someone else’s opinion.
He’s just a kid, but he’s a lot more articulate and makes better points than you do so your insult holds no water.
By the way, the fact that I’m a teenager doesn’t invalidate my opinions or lines of thought in any way. In fact, it kind of goes to show that you’ve generalized people yet again, and OBVIOUSLY since I’m not as old as you it means I’m immature and can’t use logic for myself.
News for you, buddy.
The reason Jane’s defending me isn’t because I’m a regular- when people who post regularly around here are wrong or trolling, we tell them that just the same, but it’s because you’re clearly trolling. Sorry if I’ve bothered you- I mean, just because I’m a kid, that’s what makes me respond to you. Not because you’re trying to invalidate the points I’ve made with idiocy and insults.
Teenagers scare the living shit out of me.
oh no! its a kid! RUN AWAY RUN AWAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iMpfCym3mU
This is how my high school feels.
The song, not the video. Although, the mindless, idiotic violence does ring a certain familiar bell…
And did you say that intentionally?
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This is how my high school feels.
The song, not the video. Although, the mindless, idiotic violence does ring a certain familiar bell…
And did you say that intentionally?
Yes I did. And I’m sorry abbout your school, my highschool had some mindless, idiotic violence, too. And the MiB should have come for about half of the teachers there. o_o
This right after a generalization about Fox?
Pot, meet kettle.
Fox is an independent news network, not a political party. I didn’t say “everyone that works at FOX sucks and is an a-hole because (insert insult here)!”. Fox is an independent company, not a group of people. FOX News =/= the Republican party.
but a groupe of people make up a company…-boggles-
True, but a not everyone in the company believes a certain thing. It’s a job, not a belief. Fox as a company is an independent being, that’s only made up of people who do their jobs, regardless of their beliefs.
but your telling bitter troll everyone at the repubrikan coventions and party really believe that bull?
come on….you have to stop beleiveing in santa sooner or later…now pardon bitter troll for he must get to his card game with santa, jesus and manbearpig
What?
I’m so confused, BT.
“=/=” means does not equal. That’s not where you’re confused, right? Where did I say every Republican believes FOX?
…
Wait, you’re just messing with me aren’t you?
I’m not worried about everyone at the Republican conventions believing everything that’s on FoxNews, I’m worried about the fact that seemingly everyone on the Left thinks that us Republicans consider Rush Limbaugh and Fox News Gods in their own right, and take everything said as gospel. I mean, honestly, do you believe Anderson (F*CKING) Cooper or Keith Olbermann every time they open their mouths? Or do you use what they say as a starting point to make up your own mind?
Geez, people, no one on either side is a robot. Except for Angelina Jolie, and I’m not sure which side created her. But I thank them.
I would have sex with Angelina Jolie, but I’m too intimidated.
Also, I’d be afraid that her metal breasts and lips would crush or suffocate me to death.
angelina jolie is clearly a robot…bitter troll will need to do some upgrades on her sanity servo…please bring her to bitter troll bridge
For some reason I read that as “no one on either side is root beer”, and now I would like some root beer.
I have root beer, but you’ll have to fight to get it away from my daughter.
Angelina Jolie does nothing for me.
AJ might be an android, but she’s not technically a robot; if you cut her, she bleeds blood (sources various).
…and if you rut her, she breeds
“Air America went belly up…” Sheesh, the ’60’s must have been even more fun than I remember, because I listen to the local Air America station every day. Maybe it’s all just a dream….but why would I be dreaming about Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz and Ron Reagan (son of Ronnie)? An odd sort of hallucination.
Too much LDS. Double damn on you.
…is that a Star Trek IV quote? Don’t see that very often.
Yepper.
This Lol is made of fail.
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In other news, Reagan, JFK, FDR, and Abe Lincoln are my favorite presidents ever. Though Ronnie holds #1.
Aw, you only like JFK because he’s a dead democrat.
Dude, they’re all dead on her list. Hell, they’re all dead except for Carter, Bush, Clinton, and other Bush. What’s your point?
Awww.. you only like your hand because live people don’t like you.
Not true. She’s also one of those rare partners who knows exactly what I want. >.>
Something like that.
Dead people are so easy like that.
Commandment Amendment Elebenty: Thou shalt not necrophile.
Whooooaaaa there, God. Don’t you think that’s going a little overboard?
The only good democrat is a….
*had to be done. HAD TO*
Wait, I thought this was PunditKitchen? Lol fail.
Haven’t you ever been here before?
Besides, generalizing, hateful pundits are made fun of just as much as everyone else.
Punditkitchen is a kitchen that enables average people to be a pundit, believe it or not. It’s not designed to encourage famous pundits that mislead and encourage hatred.
It is Pundit KITCHEN. So how do you like Hannity? Deep fried? Baked? Pureed? I prefer broiled.
I’d prefer him roasted on a spit with an apple in his mouth…
That would be more appropriate, for sure.
With a side order of Limbaugh and Coulter for good measure, although one is very fatty and the other might cause you to choke on a bone.
And be careful: the Brooks trout, while served on the finest Kristol, is very fishy indeed.
Please goose, you’re just being greedy. One Limbaugh would feed a family of four for a week.
Apparently you haven’t seen him lately….
He stopped eating Carville cakes?
They were a little too Cajun-y for him.
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Interestingly, the DJIA was positive for the 1987 calendar year. It opened on January 2, 1987, at 1,897 points and would close on December 31, 1987, at 1,939 points. The DJIA did not regain its August 25, 1987 closing high of 2,722 points until almost two years later.
A degree of mystery is associated with the 1987 crash, and it has been labeled as a black swan event. Important assumptions concerning human rationality, the efficient market hypothesis, and economic equilibrium were brought into question by the event. Debate as to the cause of the crash still continues many years after the event, with no firm conclusions reached.
In the wake of the crash, markets around the world were put on restricted trading primarily because sorting out the orders that had come in was beyond the computer technology of the time. This also gave the Federal Reserve and other central banks time to pump liquidity into the system to prevent a further downdraft. While pessimism reigned, the DJIA bottomed on October 20.
Following the stock market crash, a group of 33 eminent economists from various nations met in Washington, D.C. in December 1987, and collectively predicted that “the next few years could be the most troubled since the 1930s.”
Contents
* 1 Timeline
* 2 Causes
* 3 See also
* 4 Further reading
* 5 References
* 6 External links
Timeline
Timeline compiled by the Federal Reserve.
In 1986, the United States economy began shifting from a rapidly growing recovery to a slower growing expansion, which resulted in a “soft landing” as the economy slowed and inflation dropped. The stock market advanced significantly, with the Dow peaking in August 1987 at 2722 points, or 44% over the previous year’s closing of 1895 points.
On October 14, the DJIA dropped 95.46 points (a then record) to 2412.70, and fell another 58 points the next day, down over 12% from the August 25 all-time high. On Friday, October 16, the DJIA closed down another 108.35 points to close at 2246.74 on record volume. Treasury Secretary James Baker stated concerns about the falling prices. That weekend many investors worried over their stock investments.
The crash began in Far Eastern markets the morning of October 19. Later that morning, two U.S. warships shelled an Iranian oil platform in the Persian Gulf in response to Iran’s Silkworm missile attack on the U.S. flagged ship MV Sea Isle City.
Causes
Potential causes for the decline include program trading, overvaluation, illiquidity, economics and market psychology.
The most popular explanation for the 1987 crash was selling by program traders. U.S. Congressman Edward J. Markey, who had been warning about the possibility of a crash, stated that “Program trading was the principal cause.” In program trading, computers perform rapid stock executions based on external inputs, such as the price of related securities. Common strategies implemented by program trading involve an attempt to engage in arbitrage and portfolio insurance strategies. The trader Paul Tudor Jones predicted and profited from the crash, attributing it to portfolio insurance derivatives which were “an accident waiting to happen” and that the “crash was something that was imminently forecastable”. Once the market started going down, the writers of the derivatives were “forced to sell on every down-tick” so the “selling would actually cascade instead of dry up.”
As computer technology became more available, the use of program trading grew dramatically within Wall Street firms. After the crash, many blamed program trading strategies for blindly selling stocks as markets fell, exacerbating the decline. Some economists theorized the speculative boom leading up to October was caused by program trading, while others argued that the crash was a return to normalcy. Either way, program trading ended up taking the majority of the blame in the public eye for the 1987 stock market crash.
New York University’s Richard Sylla divides the causes into macroeconomic and internal reasons. Macroeconomic causes included international disputes about foreign exchange and interest rates, and fears about inflation.
The internal reasons included innovations with index futures and portfolio insurance. I’ve seen accounts that maybe roughly half the trading on that day was a small number of institutions with portfolio insurance. Big guys were dumping their stock. Also, the futures market in Chicago was even lower than the stock market, and people tried to arbitrage that. The proper strategy was to buy futures in Chicago and sell in the New York cash market. It made it hard — the portfolio insurance people were also trying to sell their stock at the same time.
Economist Richard Roll believes the international nature of the stock market decline contradicts the argument that program trading was to blame. Program trading strategies were used primarily in the United States, Roll writes. Markets where program trading was not prevalent, such as Australia and Hong Kong, would not have declined as well, if program trading was the cause. These markets might have been reacting to excessive program trading in the United States, but Roll indicates otherwise. The crash began on October 19 in Hong Kong, spread west to Europe, and hit the United States only after Hong Kong and other markets had already declined by a significant margin.
Another common theory states that the crash was a result of a dispute in monetary policy between the G7 industrialized nations, in which the United States, wanting to prop up the dollar and restrict inflation, tightened policy faster than the Europeans. The crash, in this view, was caused when the dollar-backed Hong Kong stock exchange collapsed, and this caused a crisis in confidence.
Longest. Comment. Ever.
Man, even *I* can’t read that in one sitting.
Mind If I ask, exactly, what his point is?
Don’t know, havent read all the way through!
dunno.. on his head?
I assumed it was an ordinal rule post. Possibly somehow pre-emptive. Very odd, at any rate.
Epic is what it is.
This has to be the most ignorant caption I have ever seen on Punditkitchen. Bravo.
I’m sorry to say but this HypnoticPhantom character is kind of an idiot.
Slapping the lips off of Rush and Sean is what YOU want to do…Please do not apply YOUR thoughts or wants to a GREAT AMERICAN President like Reagan…It only makes YOU look stupid…You are not even worth walking in his shadow…Mugsy
I like the fact that you say not to put words into the mouth of another person, but I think it’s kind of asinine to say that they’re projecting their thoughts onto their views of Reagan without ever having spoken to the person in question who you’re accusing or hearing what he has to say. Also, you could probably yell a little louder when you yell “GREAT AMERICAN President”. I’m not sure everyone understood how great he was, or how much he represented a true “AMERICAN” President. By the way, judging someone’s worth by an LOL that takes about 10 seconds to make on a website isn’t exactly an accurate method. In fact, it almost seems like you’re applying your thoughts to judge someone else based on a misinformed opinion. Ring any bells? Because you’re doing exactly what you just accused this “HypnoticPhantom” guy of.
And the signature is just stupid.
Use a period and two spaces to imply the end of a sentence, because three periods in a row, also known as an ellipsis, implies lengthened pause, not a stop.
Eesh, grammar natzi.
*epic headdesk causes Cat 5 in the Keys*
Spelling nazi says there’s no t in nazi.
There’s one in “not see.”
I hate it when God gives spelling lessons.
bitter troll hates it when god leaves herpes
God has a sense of humor.
And it’s perverted. Otherwise the platypus wouldn’t exist.
Haven’t you seen the Inglourious Basterds trailer? It’s pronounced Nat See.
He’s got an excellent point though. It was like trying to read a post by a poor William Shatner impersonator. I won’t say it was like reading a post by William Shatner, though, because said post would undoubtedly be teh awesome.
I’ve come across the habit of replacing “. ” with “..” or “…” or sometimes even ” .” in quite a few places. I don’t really understand the point of writing like that – it makes things utterly unpleasant to read. When reading that sort of slimey punctuation, I feel dirty (in the bad-bad way).
I’m horrible with run on sentences, it’s something I really need to stop myself from doing. I also love the ellipses, but not to the extent of Mugwomp just yet.
I use them frequently, because they are very useful. But they are never, ever a good substitute for a full stop. Or a period. Or whatever you forn peple call them…
(A “punkt” in Swedish.
)
“Peple”, I should add, is not Swedish for “people”.
I agree. On all counts.
But Soylent Green is people.
wha is soylent orange?
BABY SEALS…CLUBBED BABY SEALS…
ADORABLE BABY SEALS!!!
TASTEY TASTEY BABY SEALS
Mmmm Soylent.
I think by adding a space between them… its makes a bit easier to read… if you catch my… drift.
That’d be a more correct typographical representation of it, for sure! At least from what I have learned.
I just don’t get why want to replace every sensible punctuation with it? Do they want to appear extra clever, as if everything they say contains a secret, deeper meaning that they can only mysteriously hint at? Or are they themselves so very insecure that they can’t say a single thing for sure, adding the ellipses to make room for correction? It. Just. Looks … so silly!
“Hello…I would like to apply for the position…as secretary…I have many skills…You would…Marvel…At what I can do with a typewriter…”
Argh.
Oh, ha. That time I missed the “people” altogether. Probably subconsciously trying to avoid mistyping it again.
It should read “I just don’t get why people want to replace”
Now my brain started imagining the lovechild of an ellipsis-abuser and a quotation-misuser. For some reason, tons of people think quote marks give emphasis.
I “really” must go to bed…and “sleep”…right now…before the thought makes my “head”…explode…
Why am I hearing William Shatner in Star Trek, being…oh…so…dramatic?
{http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf}
William Shatner, Cave Man?
You can spin it the way you want to but it will not change my opinion of this thoughtless caption about Reagan and what “HypnoticPhantom” put in his mouth…I lived through the Reagan years and I know what he did…It certainly wouldn’t be to slap the lips off anybody…Yes, I know about “lengthened pause, not a stop”…I choose to do this and do not need lessons for you…I sign my name because I choose to do so…Mugsy
I find myself oddly fascinated by your speculation about “Reagan and what ‘HypnoticPhantom’ put in his mouth.” Do you have pictures, by any chance?
You could’ve put just about anything in my mouth there at the end and I would have just thought it was a tasty, tasty jelly bean.
i’m thinking HypnoticPhantom is a guy… in which case, make sure the pics are behind a link or a cut or something. i don’t need to see some guy violating a zombie reagan… i have enough trouble sleeping at night as it is.
Look at the LOL…Mugsy
Yeah, but since his mouth is closed… it’s hard to know what HP might or might not have left in it.
I’m not “spinning”, I’m pointing out the fact that you’re being a hypocrite. First, you judge and accuse HypnoticPhantom of putting words into Reagan’s mouth, telling him off about it, without actually using any diplomacy, such as admitting that you could have gotten the wrong impression, and proceed to say “I lived through the Reagan years and I know what he did…It certainly wouldn’t be to slap the lips off anybody”
To definitively state that you know what he would do today is impossible, unless you are Ronald Reagan. Therefore, you are also using your opinion of him to try and tell us what he would do today, and in the process doing exactly what you are telling someone else off for. Both of those opinions are based on what you and HypnoticPhantom think of Reagan, and therefore both are unreliable.
Ronald Reagan can tell me what Ronald Reagan would do, but you trying to convince me of what he would do based on your opinion of the man convinces me no more than HypnoticPhantom’s opinion.
And I was trying to point out that while your name is up top, it is a bit of a waste of your time to reprint your name while you could choose, instead, to save some time. And no, you most definitely don’t need lessons “for” me, because I didn’t offer any.
i love when your bottled up teenage angst bursts open at an unsuspecting troll. it makes life just a little bit warmer and fuzzier.
How’s this guy anymore a troll than the douchebag that captioned my picture? Since when did speaking your mind become trollery?
It’s his terrible use of the ellipis that does it.
+s
It becomes trollery when you do it in an asinine, agitating way. Or you just state something as fact that really isn’t. Hell, there are any number of ways to become a troll. Speak your mind if you want, but I hope you’re not thinking everyone else shouldn’t be able to speak theirs about you and what you just said, too.
Does that then make you a troll? Really, your nasty responses are asinine and agitating to others, I am certain.
Check your logic.
it’s already been determined, months back, that tygor is of a trollish-sort. but he’s well liked around here and barely acts a troll. if you’re able to be nice to people and take criticism we’ll hang out and play with you… but if you’re just going to be a blatant ass, move along… i believe failblog could use a few more assh0les to fill their ranks.
Why? Is this your blog?
Nope, but it’s been accused of being a communist comment community. (Heh- triple C.)
Quickly, Jane! Hide the papers and the People’s Breasts!
Shortright! Cover up the Eddiesticks! The inspector is here!
what should i do with the boob tassels left over from president nexus’ reign?
Put your shirt back on, nobody will notice them!
aw man… that’s no fun.
Oh, don’t worry, you can take it off later again. We’ve all gotta look professional for the inspectors.
Yes, it is. We tend to let the girls make the rules around here.
*jiggles boobs*
this is why jane, diss, froo, charro, pitty, myself and a few others will always rule.
*unslings boobs*
I’m too depressed today for boob jiggling. I think I’ll go curl up with a book, some tea, and reeses peanut butter cups.
*hugs jane*
it’s ok. i’ll jiggle some extra for you. everyone seems pretty gloomy today… jane, froo, eric, tygor.
it’s a sad day at PK.
*hugs back* Thanks.
Hrmm… -Pops into Jane’s reading room wearing boxers, bearing Reese’s, tea, and a bookshelf full of the most brilliantly written but never read before novels ever-
What would you do for these, Janie?
Just kidding, although, the boxers and the Reeses bit is true, I’m not in….
>.>
-Tiny voice- The uhm.. Midwest?
Still, though. -Hugs-
*shakes junk*
O YEAH WELL I HAVE A PENIS AND YOU ENVY IT!!!
OMG, put that thing away! *cringes*
LOL
Yep. I’m pretty sure my troll lineage traces all the way back to my father, which makes me half troll, half logic.
No, it makes me half troll. Half troll + Half human logic earns me the post TROGDOR.
Mostly because I only bash other trolls, and debate with the people who seem mostly rational and capable of discussion.
I believe that you believe that you only bash trolls and debate with people who seem mostly rational and capable of discussion…
In what bizarro world does calling someone an “artard” count as rational and capable discussion? You’re just mad because a teenager pointed out how childish you were being.
No, I’m not mad. Igor holds a double standard and obviously thinks he can say what others can comment on here and what they cannot.
He’s a regular, however as you are as well and you will stand up for each other be you right or wrong.
Have fun.
I don’t think I can say what they can an can’t, Little, because I’m not an idiot.
I can call them out on their fallacies, however. That’s not illegal, and neither is asking them to start reasoning like they have a brain.
It must have bothered you, to be corrected for being an ass by a 16 year old, huh? Otherwise you wouldn’t have headed to my other comments to point out how stupid and unfair and what a big meanie head I am.
Any of us can tell you what to do all we want. You don’t HAVE to do it. You can be a total jackass to everyone on here (some people do it with every post, I won’t name names). That’s your right. However, if you insist on being a jackass, expect to be called out on it. ‘Tis the laws of the Internet, yo.
I believe that you believe that I believe that…
However, you’re trolling again, and doing a badly-disguised job of it. By randomly insulting me and choose not to cite any valid examples, or use rational logic to point out my fallacies, you make yourself look like an idiot, not me. The mere fact that you choose to insult me on three different nests so you’ll have more material to attack with makes you look bad, not me. If you don’t want to be treated as an idiot, don’t run in screaming “artard” or “You’re not right!” unless you’ve got some damn nice logic behind you to back you up.
But why engage in intelligent discussion, when you can make a drive-by accusation with no explained basis that causes others to waste time refuting it?
Wait a second, something seems amiss… correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t THAT the definition of trolling? (^_~)
logic is illogical
*pouts* You’re illogical! *swims off in a huff*
-hugs his charro- nooo…trolls is not logical..
*hugs back* But… But.. charro has Philosophy degree. Logic is imperative to charro…
he’s not anymore a troll than HypnoticPhantom… however HP hasn’t proven him/herself to be a troll by coming in the comments sections and being a complete and total tool. “mugsy” has created a completely hypocritical assessment of HP and when it was pointed out he/she decided to be demeaning to someone who hadn’t done anything to deserve that sort of treatment.
if tygor’d come in guns a blazing calling “mugsy” a douche bag or a “republitard” or something like that then i could see that level of condescension but tygor pointed out that there was a giant flaw in their logic and “mugsy” decided to be a total ass about it. at that point the troll sensors started going off pretty badly.
not to mention the obvious spelling, grammar and other fails compiled by “mugsy” while he/she was attempting to be so supercilious over the rest of us who obviously don’t understand exactly how ronald reagan would react in any given situation.
Wasn’t HP a hypocrite in the first place putting words in my mouth I’d never say? Are we playing six degrees of douchbaggery here? Do we need to trace it to the very first douchebag? I’m sure it’s doable.
Bitching about punctuation and grammar rather than providing counterargument is merely the sign of a weak mind. All I see here is “ZOMG you’re WRONG because I’m the burninator.”
no, HP was making a caption.
look up hypocrite. you can say that so-and-so said anything and it doesn’t make you a hypocrite. it might make you susceptible to a libel or slander lawsuit… but not a hypocrite.
For real? You, um, really believe you’re Ronald Reagan? Wow…
*calls guys in white coats*
If he’s Reagan, can I be Kennedy? Without the gunshot wound to the head?
dibsies on kennedy WITH the gunshot wound! it’d be the best halloween ever!
LOL! That’d show ‘em!
Should definitely be a couples costume. Somebody gets to go as blood-and-brain-spattered Jackie.
damn… i may need to rethink this. i’ll be jackie o and i’ll make chris be gunshot kennedy. it’ll be AWESOME.
@ Shortright: Promise me you’ll post pictures. Please. (Actually, we might consider that one for Halloween, too, should we end up going anywhere we’d be wearing costumes!)
Diss, you’re out of line.
Lawyers and their associates can’t enjoy things, and that is the RULE.
Rules = Made to Be Broken.
…which is something that lawyers also know. Heh.
Wrong. Lawyers enjoy eating their young.
diss – if i do it, there will be pictures. there were pictures of me coming to work as michelle duggar for halloween ‘09.
If you can’t see the argument, consider for a moment that Mugsy isn’t right about his opinion on what Ronald Reagan would do. I made a counterargument, you’re just ignoring it and focusing on the grammatical corrections.
No, your’re acting the hypocrite by crying “trollery” when you’re doing the very same thing. And you totally know it.
He’s not a troll. He’s a troll buster. He’s one of the good guys.
I calls them like I sees them.
Ronnie, it’s called “Troll Bashing”. Once you give up all your hope for humanity and stop caring if someone thinks you’re a troll, it’s really quite a lot of fun.
Oh, and a full troll can’t make logical arguments, or admit hypocrisy. I may be waist-deep in douche, but my head’s not being drowned in bullsh*t.
You can’t get down close enough to bash them if you’re going to ride a high horse- it doesn’t work anyway, they just see you, grab you, and pull you down forcibly anyway.
Bashing trolls is fun. Especially the ones who get on their high horse and try to act like they’re better than everyone else, like a couple of the guys on this thread and the jackass who decided religion must be stamped out a few days ago.
Where was this, Eric?
It’s time to pull out the shotgun crossbow and play pin the bolt in the idiot’s limbs.
That’s what you get for getting off the Internet for any period of time. He’s on the Geronimo LOL. Most annoying cowpie I’ve seen in a while.
-sniffs- why you beat me so eric…why?
Because you paid the $20 for the half hour session.
next time me use coupon
Oh how I long for the days of when trolls will start projecting on others just because the regulars actually shut down every comment posted… Oh… right… Thanks Ronnie.
Uhmm…. Maxwell?
I’m a bit confused on that one. Clarify for the stupids?
then to keep up rateings…please decribe your penis
Penis? I love penis..
Have a jelly bean. I like jelly beans. Do you like jelly beans?
*noms jelly beans*
Zombie Reagan eats jelly beans instead of brains? We’re all saved!!
Jelly braiiinnnnnnzzz…
Crap.
only one way to deal with zombie reagan…-grabs his shot gun, does cool pump action with one hand and strikes dramatic pose before being tackled by secret service zombies- ACK BITTER TROLL ONLY WANTED TO IMPRESS JODIE FOSTER!
Zombie secret service tackling a troll with a shotgun. That’s a pretty bizarre mental image.
now picture us naked!
Crap. That was all kinds of retarded from the beginning.
I agree with the assertion that Reagan was a great president, but I qualify that with a wise quote from (of all places), Harry Potter:
“After all, He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named did great things. Terrible! Yes. But great.”
Pundit Kitchen has disappointed me yet again. Hahaha all conservatives are racist sexist bigoted redneck homophobes, wash rinse repeat. Groan.
I don’t think that’s what this caption said at all. I believe what it says is “Ronald Reagan was a republican, and totally wouldn’t support this bullsh*t.”
Personally, I don’t pretend to know what Reagan would be thinking, but nothing in this caption implies something crude about all Republicans. Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, yes, if you’re a Ronald Reagan fan, but other than that? No, not really.
I read it the same way, Igor…
It’s kind of like Jesus going through the Bible up in heaven, looking at some of the more cooky “Christians” (i.e. Westboro Ks Church) and saying “Where did I say I hate ANYONE??!! Where are these people getting this??!!”
I hear Hannity et al talk about how much they love and admire Reagan, but would he agree with their tactics and speech? I don’t know… meant to be rhetorical.
*noms cooky christian brains*
You are assuming that it is bullsh*t. I and many others would disagree with your assumption.
You and many others would still be putting words in a dead man’s mouth who can’t disagree or agree with you, either way.
Ronald Reagan knows what Ronald Reagan would do.
No one else has the right to speak for him.
Just as a notice to trolls- I know, this LOL wasn’t funny, in any way, ever, and will always be horrrrriibbblllee, because this site is BIASED and that should be ILLEGAL.
Something like that, in order to prevent some of the more crazy people responding, but I thought this LOL was semi-funny, because of all the people trying to put words into the poor guy’s mouth. When I see it, I think it implies “You know what I’d do? I’d tell everyone to stop putting words in my mouth and not to tell people what I’d do if I’m not around to verify that!” would be what a dead guy would say.
You may want to unwind your ascot a bit there, junior.
Dealing with a sock is pointless.
Unless you’re just a random drop-in, in which case I’d suggest you read the comments above mine. I’m TROGDOR ’round these parts for a reason. When trolls get offended, burninatin’s what I do. -Spits into nearby can-
Sorry about the sheriff bit. I’ve been playing Fallout 3 and have heard Lucas Simms’ voice a bit too much lately.
You really should consider dating. It’s better than drugs.
he’s 16… girls are still mildly “icky” to him. he wants to date but just can’t quite fathom it yet.
but, we all love our tygor anyway. *hugs to tygor*
Nancy sez hugz not drugz.
But have you tried both?
Not “Icky”, Shortright, but just as imperfect as the rest of us.
That said, I’ve already had the hope crushed out of me by the internet. What other goals can a girl accomplish? Because as far as I know, there aren’t any others… (Translation- Tygor is afraid to meet a girl he actually likes because he thinks she is going to manipulate him and then hurt him.) Being alone is nice sometimes, too…
Plus the stupid.
The stupid makes Iggler angry. Have you seen lately, Shortright, the sheer difficulty of finding a girl who doesn’t talk in textspeak, can stand to be seen near someone who knows their way around computers and video games, and doesn’t need some guy from a crazy love fantasy? (The current being S.Meyer’s books.)
“lik wat r u doin tonite?” Will never warrant a reply from me.
Okay, I’m a teenager, so I should be honest- it’ll warrant a reply if the reply means I get sex.
lemme clue you in on something. the text speech stupidity isn’t exclusive to teen-something girls. i’ve met upper-20s guys who use it too. it’s the dumbing down of america and it makes me fear for future generations.
as for measuring up to “edward cullen”… yeah don’t worry about it. if the girl really wants a 108 year old stone cold sparkly pedophile who has nothing better to do with his time than go to high school over and over and over again… then you don’t want anything to do with her anyway.
as for sex: *puts on i’m a good bit older than you so you should listen to me hat* don’t stoop that low just for sex. wait til it’s right. *takes off the hat* wrap it before you tap it. you don’t want to be tied to a vapid chick for the next 18ish years.
“it’s the dumbing down of the world and it makes me fear for future generations.”
There, I Fixed It.*
*) That capitalisation chosen because I just now discovered that site. Rather funny stuff.
good call on making it a more universal dumbing down.
and i love that website… between that and fmylifeDOTcom, cakewrecksDOTblogspotDOTcom and textsfromlastnightDOTcom i can amuse myself at work for hours. lol.
Yeah, I found it via Cake Wrecks.
Damn those time and life stealers. DAMN them! …
…
… do you have any more tips? ;p
um, on sunday morning’s i check postsecretDOTcom, not so much a time waster though as it’s only updated weekly.
since you’re rather snarky you might get a lot of enjoyment and time wasted out of dlistedDOTcom. it’s a gossip website but run by a snarky NYC gay who hates most of the celebs he has to write about. but unlike perez hilton it’s actually funny.
Heh. I love fml. And cakewrecks. My wife and I sit back and laugh at those all the time.
Argh my hubby can’t text intelligently for sh!t. It makes me very sad to get “I went 2 tha store 2 get sumthin” etc. I just want to cry.
-hugs charro- dump him…marry bitter troll..him so lonely
*hugs* My poor bitter troll.. I don’t think I can get married a THIRD time. But you’re welcome to join us whenever.
woohoo!-jumps in-
Woohoo!! Threesome!
i don’t really care if they use 2 for to/too in a text that sort of thing, i know that when i’m sending to a non verizon person i’ll shorten things because i only get 160 characters… within the network i can send 1120 so i can write out a whole novel. but when you have someone who will say in a conversation “oh. em. gee.” and other crap like that. that’s why i fear for the future generations.
Oh EM Gee shortright, u like ttly hit tht on tha head.
you might be imperfect… but i’m perfect. i’m always right too.
and you’re 16 – all 16 year olds feel that way about the opposite sex. you’re as normal as you can get… i was gonna say you were normal then i realized just how WRONG that would be.
I was scared of dating at that age too. Constant fear of rejection. I turned out all right.
*whispers*
i was engaged at 16. it failed, of course… but i was.
Eh. I was married at 20.
17.
You were married at 17? Good for you. It’s not a competition.
I was. And divorced at 19. Thank god.
The thought of divorce petrifies me. It’s not something I ever want to go through.
Haven’t you ever been in a break-up, Eric?
Multiply the total betrayal of your trust factor by 20, chop off your balls, and you’ve started to feel the beginnings of a divorce.
The divorce is one of the highlights of my life (up until then, at least).
I’ve got 11 years in this marriage. I have no intention of stopping now.
At age 16, I only watched guys from a distance. I don’t think I was ready, but anyway, the guys at my HS were for the most part as shallow as a pancake. On reflection, there are far worse things than not having a relationship in HS. One of them would be having survived a relationship with one of those pancakes!
VG, what’s much worse is having to worry about BECOMING one of those damned pancake men…
You won’t become a pancake, so long as you stay true to yourself, and apply your brain on occasion. Neither was popular at my high school. *sighs*
Needless to say, I haven’t been to any reunions.
I have a question. Can a guy like me who looks like the ass end of some thing that came off of Satan’s crotch that believes in good morals that are considered Fascist by most people find a nice girl who’s not all whored up and has the same life goals as I so I don’t lose faith in humanity and end up going thermonuclear? (:O
No.
When asking if you can find a decent, sane girl, the answer is always, invariably, no.
Well shucks.
i was engaged for a second time at 20. it failed too. that’s when i realized dating/being engaged to the red necks who had no life ambition wasn’t going to work out.
Boy, I’m glad my wife never figured that out. :-X
i can find her on FB… i’ll clue her in.
Oh great. “Honey, you know those people from PK I just friend requested on FB? Yeah, they’re apparently gonna start stalking you.”
bitter troll can wear his reagan mask while stalking!
bitter troll is not on Facebook, charro can no friend bitter troll. *has a sad*
awww bitter troll will make a face book…
…that book made of hooman faces right? me troll , bitter troll has many..wears thong of faces too
Yeah, mostly human faces, but charro mermaid has Facebook.
@eric/rando – i’ll be nice. i won’t ACTUALLY stalk her. just maybe send her the random weird message for shits and giggles… “i know what your husband did last night. he mocked 6 people online and talking video games with a 16 year old who lives on the east coast”.
**talking = talked (fingers aren’t awake yet)
Eh, she knows what I’m up to. She reads these comments now and again to see what I’m spending so much of my free time doing. Hi, honey! *waves*
she may read the comments – but it’s more fun if some random person she doesn’t know randomly sends her an update on your activities…
I know what you are saying because we have been there as well…It seems almost every positive Sarah or Bush LOL has its trolls from the left…I do not think this site is BIASED at all…It is the people in it..Mugsy
I think you’ll find that just about every picture has a troll coming from every possible direction. There are Democrat trolls, to be sure, but don’t forget to mention the Republican trolls, too.
Otherwise, they might feel vindicated.
Thank you…That is the best I’ve heard yet…Mugsy
Out of morbid curiosity, why not use Lincoln? Also, they forgot Glenn Beck. I HATE that guy.
“What?! That’s a horrible, inaccurate thing to say! Oh, wait, he’s apologizing for it.. okay, I guess… WHAT THE HELL?! HE SAID IT AGAIN! DOES THIS GUY EVER LEARN?!”
Your average 90 seconds watching him.
Or Washington….
“Remember at Disney World? Hall of Presidents?”
“Yeah, good! What did he say?”
“Welcome to the Hall of Presidents!”
most excellent post my friend
Wouldn’t Reagan just hire terrorists oops, I mean “freedom fighters” like Osamma bush Forgotten to do his dirty work?
try this one again in english??
Why when We can just Randomly capitalize words That shouldn’t be capitalized?
the capitalization wasn’t what bothered me (4 1/2 years of german and i’m used to lots of capitalized words) but it was more the complete and total lack of coherence. i read it like 3 times and still had no clue what alverant was trying to say… that’s pretty bad.
Well yeah, that too, but I figured you’d already bashed that so I was moving on to lesser fails.
*e was pointing out that the Reagan administration supported the Mujahadeen in Soviet-occupied Afghanistan, which is where Osama bin Laden learned his craft. *e was just doing it really inarticulately and being too cute for the room.
i’ll give you the “really inarticulately” part… not sure about cute-ness.
Uh, Reagan wouldn’t do that.
What he WOULD do is make up a bunch of lies — like, say, Limbaugh or Hannity — about welfare mothers, or pollution, etc., so that he could push through a right-wing political agenda. For Republicans, the “truth” is whatever they want it to be.
“Now, I submit to you that I told the truth … I don’t know whether he really ran over toward second base and made a one-hand stab or whether he just squatted down and took the ball when it came to him. But the truth got there and, in other words, it can be attractively packaged.” -Reagan on announcing ball games over the radio based only on wire reports of the games
If you’re leaving the site permanently, why would you ask a question just before you leave?
That doesn’t make any sense. What the hell happened?!
Wait, what the hell happened?
Aw, now look what you did. You made it feel like it was important and we cared whether it was here or not.
Don’t worry, Jane.
It’s obviously not intelligent enough to remember the website address for more than a few minutes, which will cause the inevitable destruction of their trolling alias from our records.
It’ll likely clear the internet history so its mom doesn’t find the beastiality porn sites anyway.
Why would mom care? I’m sure their mother completely understands that their child wants to watch one of their species get f*cked by a human, anyway.
Besides the fact that it’s pretty clear that Reagan would not, in fact, do that (or want to), this lol fails to answer the more important question: “What would Brian Boitano do?”
we already know the answer to that… he’d do two sow cows and a triple lutz, while wearing a blind fold. duh.
Cos Brian Boitano doesn’t take shit from an-e-y-body…
Am I missing something here? Cause it doesn’t sound familiar.
South Park movie. Have you seriously never seen it?
I recommend it.
I’ve seen it, but it’s not coming to…. hrmmm… mind…
I’m off to watch it again, then. Wait, is this the 1999 one, or a more recent South Park movie?
No, the ‘99 one. Found a clip.
I can’t believe I forgot that. Thank you, Diss.
Ronald Reagan-”The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
FTW!
Reagan man was big Rush supporter yes yes, but really if zombie reagan came out of his very nice grave, bitter troll thinks him slap all sorts of OWE SOMEONE JUST SLAPPED BITTER TROLL! oh zombie reagan you scamp
He’d probably be happy to eat Rush. That Limbaugh would make quite the meal for a zombie. The brain would have to be an appetizer, though, it’s not nearly enough to fill up on.
We say that Kennedy would’ve been ours today so you try and say Reagan would be on your side?! Ya right.
Why does everyone always think of Reagan as a hero if he supported a soul as filthy as Rush Limbaugh’s?
I don’t think of Reagan as a hero.
he didnt wear a cape…or shoot nipple lazers…
bitter troll might of voted for him if he wore a cape..and they allowed 4 year olds to vote
Aaaaaaaaaaand false. Although, this would be a great submission for failblog!
Here’s a first. I agree with Blarg. I think there is fairly bipartisan disapproval of this particular LOL due to its clear inaccuracy. It’s funny though that a Republican LOL finally shows up and it’s totally wrong though.
perhaps it has something to do with the fact reagan was atleast honest in the things he did, if you didnt like it to bad but he wasnt going to lie to you about it.
while rush and hannity lately have been more and more like O’rielly…just spinning any BS they can to make the people they dont like look bad, honest or not
Whatever gets the ratings, you know. That makes too much sense, BT. Be more trollish!
Republican lol? Clearly a liberal made this one.
CLEARLY!
You may be right. Most Reaganites seem to know where he stood as far as the evil pundits go. But it seems to make Reagan look good, which we liberals wouldn’t be caught dead doing.
Reagan liked to smack people, he was famous for it! women, children, clowns, jelly bean salesmen…he just loved to beat people…everyone know this.
bitter troll thinks reagan would pick those two cause they would be the first to suck his ( ock after he rises from grave as zombie reagan, thus be in closest reach
(that more trollish?))
Much better. And I totally agree with it.
(Trying to earn back my liberal rep while I’m at it.)
zombie reagan love!
Too late. You’re out.
it’s ok… i’ve still got his dirty librul card from way back when. he never quite earned it back. got close a few times – but no dice.
That’s it. I’m not talking to you guys anymore if you’re just gonna insult me. *goes to look at anti-Republican and pro-Obama buttons*
you’ll be back… you always are. you like us too much to actually leave.
unlike DWN who just up and left us… *sobs*
Really? I honestly miss that guy.
i do too. he pops in from time to time but i think he’s mostly gone. we lost rhorho too…
And for those that have been around a bit longer, we lost ema as well. I know she’s around and she may just lurk on PK, but I honestly miss her. She was fun to have around.
Wait what happened to the Didgeridoo thing?
Wow… y’all ever think of letting go of the hate for Limbaugh and Hannity?
Try giving an honest listen to their positions instead of cherry-picked soundbites listed in the Daily Kos or Democrat Underground. You might even agree with some of what they believe.
but bitter troll hates everyone! and is very bitter about it…you just wanna line jump the oral loven line to zombie reagan…no rush and hannity get to go first
Oh mah… me.
It’d be easier to convince Al Gore that Manbearpig doesn’t exist.
but he DOES…bitter troll plays poker with manbearpig santa, and jesus every wensday night
I seriously doubt that.
no no rando! BELIEVE in manbearpig
I believe in Manbearpig more than I believe in Hannity or Limbaugh.
You don’t understand…I hate them BECAUSE I’ve listened to them!
Out of curiosity, how much?
How much do I hate them or how much have I listened to them?
How much have you listened to them. I can gather through previous comments made how much you hate them
Well, my ex used to like to force me to watch on a pretty regular basis (say three times a week?) to see how long I could take it, and I see the closed-caption version most days at the gym, so I’ve seen and heard more than I need to have developed a strong dislike. Pure propaganda and/or disingenuous ratings-driven Jerry-Springer-variety “news,” IMO.
So are we talking Fox News exclusively, or have you listened to Rush on the radio? And are you watching the news portion of Fox, or the pundit portion?
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I ask because I care
I’ve seen/heard more Fox “News” than Limbaugh in recent years, but I’ve heard Limbaugh on the radio many times, more as a conscientious objector than a listener
I’ve watched both the “news” portion and the pundit portion of Fox’s programming. I find the pundits much more abrasive and blatantly partisan, but even the so-called news segments are laughable. I remember recently at the gym, watching a Fox News segment in which the lead-in graphics said: THE ROAD TO COMMUNISM, and there was literally a yellow-brick-road graphic with MARXISM, SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM along the side of the road. Pure. Comedy. Gold. Or at least it would be if it didn’t whip people into an incoherent, uninformed frenzy.
I think it’s funny that you and I see things so differently! I look at MSNBC the same way, lol. And I rather enjoy listening to Ron Reagan, Mike Molloy, and that chick on Air America…..crap, I can’t remember her name. Randi? Anyway, I find them funny because they are so serious and frothy (to me). Of course, Mike Molloy lost all credibility he might have had when he said that the Joint Chiefs of Staff had Kennedy killed…….
The part I find funny about listening to both sides (I listen to Rush in the mornings if I’m up, and I read his website, and I listen to Hannity, Levin, Molloy, Reagan, and Randi in the evenings) is the way that they can take the exact same story and give you completely different views on it. The Cambridge professor story, for example. And honestly, I think that Randi would defend Obama if he was caught eating a baby cooked rare with a nice mango salsa.
But I don’t watch MSNBC or listen to liberal radio either (unless you count NPR as liberal radio). I’ve never heard a single episode of Air America. I’ve never once read the Huffington Post. I have a finite amount of time to inform myself about current events and political issues, not enough to waste listening to windbags. I don’t want to be indoctrinated, I want to be informed.
You don’t understand.
The reason we hate them is because we’ve listened to them.
I wanted to be like my daddy when I grew up, and he listened to FOX/Limbaugh plenty.
Shows the stupidity of the left. Hannity and all of the other conservatives would love for this man and his policies to return.
God bless Ronald Reagan.
What did Reagan do that was so great? Nothing.
He had great hair. And he prayed EVERY day.
Sounds like every televangelist.
Not EVERY televangelist…..you have to make some time inbetween the praying and hair styling for that affair or two….
A good televangelist has time to have great hair, pray every day, fu(k people to whom they are not married, and, if they’re worth their salt, nurture a drug habit while evading taxes. That’s how you know God loves them.
Sorry, Eric, I really do need to disagree. While there was plenty Reagan may have done wrong, there is quite a bit that Reagan did right. I’m not sure how old you were when Reagan was in office, but I can tell you that the morale in the country was at an all time low when he became president. We had the Iran hostage crisis that Carter was unable to control. We had runaway inflation and an economy that was in the toilet. While Reagan didn’t have anything directly to do with Iran, you can well imagine that they were scared sh!tless when he got elected, seeings that Carter tended to be a bit of a pushover.
Agreed. In a nutshell:
1) End the cold war
2) Bring the largest economic boom in our country’s history
3) Helped bring patriotism back to America
4) Built back our military
Massively increased the national debt.
Dissed public school teachers whenever possible–I was in high school at the time, and still, that offended me!
Ignored the AIDS epidemic.
Iran Contra.
VG, as I said, there was plenty that Reagan did wrong as well. But he wasn’t as bad as Eric seems to imply. We could have had Carter for another term.
More killer rabbits!!!!
All right. I’ll give you the cold war bit. That’s about it. The rest I’m not particularly impressed with.
Eric, just out of curiosity, how old were you when Reagan was in office?
One of my biggest regrets in life is that I never had the opportunity to vote for Ronnie.
I have voted a straight Republican ticket since Nixon.. some I’ve won, some I’ve lost.. Some I’m proud of, some I’m not.
I’m a little more flexible on that one. But seriously, I really wished my first voting opportunity would have been to pull that lever for the Ronmeister.
It would have been hard to pull the lever as a fetus, but I agree with you, DT.
I got the privelege of having my first voting experience be for daddy Bush/slick Willie. We all know how THAT one turned out…
If you were a TRUE conservative, you wouldn’t have let a little thing like lack of physical existence hinder your desire to VOTE!!!
lol
When he was elected in 1980, I was 2 years old.
Lawn banish, whippersnapper.
*crrrack*
I said I was a fetus earlier, but now that I think about it, if the election was held in November of 1980, I was 8 months old.
There was another one in 1984. So you’d have been crapping on Eddie’s lawn during that one.
So your knowledge would be based on what you read? As I said, Reagan wasn’t perfect and he certainly did screw the pooch. But, having been around when Reagan took office, I can tell you that the excitement people had when Obama got elected was nothing compared to when Reagan was elected. You do realize that his win wasn’t marginal like it was with Obama, but it was an overwhelming landslide. Given that, he did do a lot to bring the country around.
I remember a lot from my childhood. I distinctly remember making a Young Author’s book in elementary school about presidents and putting then current President Reagan in it mentioning how he announced the attack on Libya. How many kids do that for their books? LOL
but would reagan really be loveing them back? after he returns to see a party once about honesty and big buisness, has fumbled into the fox news bs party of lies scandle and greed it is now?
reagan would be pissed
Steve.
That’s not what the LOL was saying.
It says that Ronald would be pissed for all the words being put into his mouth.
The concept isn’t if Hannity or Limbaugh would love him, but if he would hate Hannity or Limbaugh.
WOW. Whoever wrote this must be seriously mental, because Reagan, Limbaugh, AND Hannity fight for the right things. This is just flat-out lying.
There was a day when I used to agree with 99% of what Limbaugh was saying. But as time and oxycontin wore on, he became laughable. The problem is, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly and several others think that they have the market cornered on conventional wisdom. The truth is, they probably would turn on Reagan in a heartbeat to get their ratings up. Personally, I think they all need to re-evaluate themselves and take a serious look at what their message should be and quit this us v. them mentality that is all to pervasive in the right-wing neocon mindset.
Oh, Eds. You give me hope for humanity.
Can we elect Eds for President? He’d have to move back from Australia but he’d at least be able to get Reese’s.
NOOOOOOOOOOO!! You guys didn’t like Reagan ’cause he was an old fart. Why would you want me?
Because you’re *our* old fart, silly.
Oh, well in THAT case.. get off my lawn!!
How could you NOT want a dragon-shaped depression on your grass and inexplicable three-toed giant footprints on your driveway? Crazy, Crazy Eddie.
Besides, I wasn’t even on it. I was *above it*. But fine, fine, I’ll go back to burninating trolls instead of giggling at the “OMG WTF DID HE JUST SAY? THE WORLD IS ENDING IF HE’S PART OF THE NEXT GENERATION!” looks that I picture on yours and Froo’s face after that last bit. Evidently, you guys didn’t get that I was kidding.
The understanding was you would hover around the perimeter and guard against anyone not authorized from getting on the lawn. Besides, I’ve had experience with large dogs crapping on the grass and I’m not inclined to pick up dragon sh!t.
That’s a good point. Igor, make sure you bring a couple large trash bags to clean up after yourself.
Eddie, have I ever mentioned that my second favorite pastime besides burninating trolls is to launch my own sh!t at them from above?
Don’t worry about my feces.
now no eddie…has eastwood taught you nothing….-grabs his rifle and glares – get off my lawn…
Okay, then can you give me one instance of any of them going back on clearly and consistently stated principles, and provide independent documentation to prove it?
*crickets*
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Why you ask? Because that was an editorial on my part. I can’t provide any documentation, only my personal opinion. As I said, I used to listen to them, but I got tire of the same rhetoric day in and day out. Further to that, they don’t hold the same political views as I do, as I am not a neo-con Republican, but a Lincoln-is-my-hero Republican.
Lincoln? Hero?
Bullsh*t. He nearly destroyed the American economy, for the sake of his morality!
…
Oh, wait… What does that parallel?
Muahahah!
You hush, and I mean now or I’ll get froo to wash your mouth out with soap!
-Giggles-
Clearly, Lincoln was a SOSHULLIST for forcing those states back into line.
Eddie, I’m ready for the scrubbing! Let’s teach Froo what it’s like when that baby turns into a teenager!
My children already have smacks waiting on them when they turn 16. Just for being little sh!ts before they were born. Don’t add to their punishment!
Fine, fine. One more thing, though. If millions of Americans are wronged in some way, do you think Lincoln would try and fix it?
Although, that’d be putting words in his mouth, and that’d be wrong, I’m just saying that they kind of look alike…
Out of curiosity, who has been wronged here? Who are those millions of people you are refering to?
Heh.. I was comparing Lincoln to Obama. ‘Cause Lincoln freed millions of Americans being held down for no real reason and allowed them to actually live, rather than having our economy continue to boom on the backs of people being wronged- I was trying to imply that the healthcare industry treats Americans wrongly by competing to see who can make the most strict, costly insurance plan that abandons the customer the fastest… You know…
I’m so dead, aren’t I?
-Backs quietly away while speaking, tries to avoid Texans with six shooters wanting to make him dance-
Want to run now, or would you like me to smack you first?
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Because comparing a right to a privilege will just get you kicked.
I’d be more worried about Aussies with big ass spiders and horrible snakes.
-Giggles and crawls under Charro’s bed with bitter troll-
I knew that was a bad idea, I knew that was a bad idea… But it seemed like too much stupid comparison giggles to pass up!
Oh god Froo, I can’t resist- it’s too good to see you guys in RAAAAGE mode.
Isn’t life one of the basic rights? Because I’m pretty sure being able to live your life and pursue your happiness pertains to not having to spend all your money on medical bills once your insurance company screws you over.
-Runs off cackling like a hyena-
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn’t say how you get there, nor does it say you need medical insurance to be happy.
Just remember, if the government can take it away, it’s not a right. And since we’ve gone from “Oh, if you want to, you can keep your coverage that you have now, no problem!” to “Well, you’re most likely going to keep your coverage”, then I’d say that this isn’t a right.
You’re playing in some dangerous waters, Igor dear. I’ve been in a piss poor mood all day, and I’m armed with video evidence of Nancy Pelosi calling the protestors who were shouting down town hall meetings in 2006 “Patriotic” up against video of her calling the protestors this year Nazis. Do you really want to piss of the hormonal preggo who has video and unbiased source evidence and a stick?
Froo, let me check that stick.. Perfect, you have one of the original EddiePscetti Trollinator’s..
-Waddles around in pajamas and tries to pull off the puppy eyes look-
God, you guys are fun. However, Froo, would you really want to beat an innocent child just for messing with you and Eddie?
People who shout down town hall speakers are idiots. No leeway there from me. Also- I didn’t compare Pelosi, the scariest, driest vagina’d woman on earth to Lincoln, now did I?
Although, I was just messing with you by imitating my few more recent meals.
All rather well done, lately. I think I’m cooking them a bit too long.
-Sighs and rolls eyes-
Fine, fine. Getting beat with the troll stick isn’t worth the look on your faces I can’t see, anyway… -Sticks out tongue at Froo and hugs- so, how did your day suck?
I’m pregnant, hormonal, taking things out on my hubby that aren’t really his fault, spent two hours on the couch crying for no reason, and have generally been in a pissy ass mood all day. I’m hoping a little cookie dough when I get off work and a good night’s sleep will do me some good.
And yes, I will beat you for the hell of it. Teenagers should be beaten daily, and with great pride. It’ll make a man out of you.
FTR, the protests were apparently fine when they were aimed at GWB, but now they’re not. God forbid anyone disagree with the current admin *rolls eyes*
ohhh froo!
-hugs-
dont worry, bitter troll spends hours crying alone the dark too….but that only cause him so lonely…-sighs- so so lonely…
-Mumbles about booby traps and crawls under BT’s doorway- Hello! I’m lonely too!
And am having the summer of shittiness!
The troll is strong in the offended commenters here… but they are too old to train!
bitter troll has not had a date in nearly a decade…everyone wants to be just good friends with bitter troll….always can depend on him..always turn to him when they need something or someone…they never stay..
O.o -Eyes warily-
Are you mocking me, ya ‘lil bastard?
-shakes head no-
I was right on FB. EVERYONE is in a bad mood today. Froo, all I want to say is that I don’t know what it’s like to be pregnant, but just remember how wonderful it is to be blessed with that kind of suffering and torture. There are those who would trade everything to feel as crappy as you do right now. Probably not helping much, but it’s important nonetheless.
Eric, I’m not dissing the being pregnant part, it’s the sitting on the couch and crying for no reason that’s got me down. Honestly, I love being pregnant. If I could figure out how to tone down the hormones, I think we would all be happier.
Then again, this is a good excuse to beat the hell out of people for no reason….
I had a shitty day too. According to the Lunar Informer:
The Moon is in Cancer. Which means Increased emotions, vulnerability and touchiness. Your need for seclusion could become quite strong, and there is a desire to communicate only with those closest to you. It is not a good idea to deal with large groups of people, or to appear on stage. You may also want to care for others, or have others look after you. Emotional difficulties may also be an obstacle to business success.
Bwahahahahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhaha!!
Oh, you idealistic little so-and-so.
Lincoln freed the slaves to gain political advantage and salvage the union, not as a gesture of moral altruism. Freedom was merely a happy end-result of strategic moves during his personal game of Risk,
Extrapolate the rest.
Yeah, DT is right. Lincoln didn’t originally want to free the slaves. That’s not what the Civil War was about. But hey, DT, they don’t teach you that part in high school US history.
Oh, I get that, E. It doesn’t make me want to pinch his naive little red cheeks any less, though
They don’t teach that in British history either, and I’m betting that they don’t teach the bit where the slaves were captured and delivered to the ports by Arabs and African tribesmen rather than by whites (European or North American) in schools either!
I’m not saying that slavery is right; just that that the whites weren’t the only ones involved in the system.
Did none of you get that I was kidding?
That I might have been imitating a troll just to see Eds and Froo go berserk?
-sigh-
Nah, he’d like it too much, all the squirming around and suds and stuff.
Limbaugh and Hannity fight for ratings. Nothing more. Don’t put your pundit on a pedestal.
Poor Hannity. That’s a losing battle no matter how you slice it.
How do you mean?
He’s always going to come in second to Rush.
Yeah. Hannity is number two.
As a rare, if ever, listener of Limbaugh, I’ll skip comment on him and suggest those who get their “selected” clips from websites consider themselves similarly unqualified.
BUT, it’s quite clear that most of the Fox-bashing that happens here comes from folks who rarely if ever watch the network, and those who blindly accept out of context clips edited down for maximum effect by spinmeisters at PuffHo, Kos, or Media schMatters, as if they were representative of reality.
Hannity:
On 99 out of 100 episodes of Hannity, he’s paired with one or more left or far-left pundits, and he regular lets steaming piles of BS from these pundits go completely unchallenged.
Juan Williams of NPR is about as centrist as any of the left-side pundit guests on the show gets, and the guests go to the far, far left from there. Hell, the show is regularly guest-hosted by former Dem campaign manager and Carter staffer, Bob Beckel. To say that Hannity’s show doesn’t present the liberal side of a story is to deny reality.
I’ll be the first one to agree that Hannity is a preachy whiner at times, frequently repetitive, and has a borderline overdose case of smug, but he is listenable and coherent, unlike the obama-toe-licking, fingernails-on-chalkboard voice, never challenged on-air Chrissy Matthews.
O’Reilly:
In spite of the dragon-boy’s link to a mashup of repeated samples of every time BOR has had to stop some clown from taking a total dump on reality, the guy is a complete teddy bear most of the time. As I mentioned the other day, if you drop into a random point on one of his shows, you’re more likely to see tv/movie trivia and pop-culture segments than anything remotely political or contentious.
BOR doesn’t suffer fools gladly, but the vast majority of his debate segments are 100% polite, normal tone-of-voice conversations.
Politically, the guy may be a right of center independent, though when it comes to economics, he’s right of Hillary, but he’s more than a bit left of Bill Clinton.
Beck:
News Flash – Not everybody fits neatly into the D and R boxes, there’s a political ideology out there called libertarian and it has more to it than guns and legal weed. Read up on it and you may rethink your own affiliation.
Beck is a (small L) libertarian who has bashed Bush with the best of them, and won’t hesitate to say when either the left or the right is full of crap. The guy can trend toward the melodramatic at times, but some of his chicken little routine proved to be quite prophetic.
Watch Beck for a few months and you’ll learn a lot more about the American system of government than is possible to learn from what passes as a college education post-1970.
The Rest of Fox:
Apart from the three programs above, the general news coverage is straight down the middle (yes, P-Mark, we know they’ve made some typos and bloopers, just like everybody else). The news anchors at Fox are neither all conservative, nor all liberal, something that few other news organizations can honestly claim. Unlike most other channels, Fox keeps a pretty clear delineation between news and opinion.
Fox isn’t perfect, but neither is any other channel. If you’re one of us who is required to check “news” back to the source before passing it along, you’ve found that Fox News comes closer to the “fair and balanced” tagline than any of the other major networks.
Sure, the commentary programs at Fox are done by a conservative (Hannity), an independent (O’Reilly), and a libertarian (Beck).
But weighing those three against the liberal cast of Olberman, Matthews, Couric, Lauer, Williams, Gibson, Maddow, Stephanopolous, Gregory, Brokaw, Russert, Blitzer, Cooper, Moyers, and dozens more, most of whom frequently pass off their opinions as news, and it becomes pretty clear that there wasn’t a need for three more far left commentators in the business.
The Fox bashing may play well in the sheltered halls of the municipal/academic complex, but to anybody who has ever watched the network directly, the over-the-top bashing sounds foolish and ignorant.
*dons flamesuit, picks up soapbox and hauls ass to the kitchen*
And let’s not forget that little Rathergate episode where the top anchor of a non-Fox network got busted faking documents in support of a fictional story to further a political agenda.
Oh but that wasn’t on purpose, you see……
He sed he wuz sorree whut mor dew u wantz? lulz!
Hey, if the righties want their own pundits, more power to them. They should have their own. As you mentioned, we’ve got plenty of our own (I like Olbermann’s over the top style and Maddow’s more sensible sounding style directly after it). That doesn’t mean I’m going to actually LIKE them. Feel free to bash our side all you want. I don’t really give a crap. I’ll keep bashing your side too. Free country and all that stuff.
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BAFb97L3KU}
There you go.
If that’s what you think, dude, then you don’t know JACK SQUAT about Reagan.
Just as this LOL puts words into a dead man’s mouth, that’s exactly what you’re doing too. This is HypnoticPhantom’s opinion of what Reagan would do, just as it’s yours that he wouldn’t. Neither of you can prove yourselves definitively right, because you aren’t zombie Reagan. That means this arguing can go on forever, but neither of you will ever be right, plus you’ll just be a hypocrite for trying.
If I’m not terribly mistaken, I believe that Reagan was a fan of Limbaugh. So taking that extra step and saying that Reagan wouldn’t slap the lips off him isn’t that big of a stretch. Hannity, I dunno, because I don’t believe that he was on the air at the time. But Rush was, and hasn’t deviated from his belief system since he started, so it’s not a huge logical leap to say that Reagan would support him now as he supported him then.
Plus, Reagan is a personal hero of Rush’s, so I doubt there would be much if any bad blood between them for any reason.
Meh- I’d still say that you can never know where Reagan would draw the line and say “Okay, Rush, that was NOT cool to say.”
No matter whether or not he wouldn’t say it or not, he’s still dead and can’t give us his opinions.
You are technically correct Igor; however, you have to make some assumptions in life. The court system is an example of that. People get convicted of murder but without making a judgement based on evidence you wouldn’t be able to convict anyone unless they admitted that they were guilty. This I know is an extreme example I am trying to apply to the LOL but the arguement that Regan is dead and we can never know if he would say this or not is technically correct but we can speculate, based on his past actions and beliefs that he would not say it.
Ah, but you forget June of 2003, when Limbaugh “allegedly” tripped in the Reagan’s bathroom, “accidentally” falling on an open bottle of Ron’s oxycontin (“I do not recall forgetting to whear pants today”), and devouring them all while blubbering, “”Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. *sob, gulp* And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. *swallow* And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.” *passes out in pool of own urine*
No bad blood, indeed. The maid was super pissed. About the piss.
So who won the Super smash Bros. Brawl match? She-Hulk or The Terminator?
Clearly it was Matt Damon.
I’m fu(king Matt Damon!
*solemnly* Matt Damon.
So what was your weapon of choice?
Ben Afleck!
she’s fu(king Matt Damon!
Who’s doing Ben?
shaq of course….you are talking ben stien right?
“Anyone? Anyone?”
Jimmy Kimmel of course!
He’s not an insomniac, he’s narcoleptic.
What, you didn’t know that?
what have we learned today?
That some of us are full of apathy (me). I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m too old to worry about it anymore and the best I can hope for is to be able to retire with some dignity. I’m going to leave it to the younger generation to sort this sh!t out, I’ve had my day and by all accounts, failed. So press on with pride and hope to God that the decisions you make today will make it better for your children. I can only attest to the fact that my kids seem happy, are well educated, and are doing what they can to make their future brighter.
Eddie, the internets has already stamped the hope out of me.
I mean, look around at all these f*cking idiots who can’t reason for themselves… I’m talking about trolls in general, by the way- nothing political there. People suck, and we make it worse. What’s the point of making it better for your children, if people are always going to be around to troll and antagonize them and make life sh*tty for everybody?
And that is the vast difference between my generation and your’s. We didn’t have the internet, we didn’t have cable tv, and we got out of our houses quite often and had a life. If you wanted to ‘troll’, it required actually writing a letter, putting a stamp on it, and sending it to the paper. Now, we have the ability to show how much of an asshat we can be without any worry of being found out who we really are. Again, good luck and Godspeed to the generations coming after me, you guys are seriously going to need it.
bitter troll learned bananas dont go in light sockets
Iggler learned to always save before approaching a reported glitch, in order to test it out for a site’s report.
Lost nearly 6 hours of game progress today.
One of my kids learned the same lesson, only it was with a penny. Knocked his ass across the room too. But I’ll give him credit, he didn’t cry at all. Just looked at me with WTF eyes. Of course I nearly had a heart attack, but afterwards I laughed my ass off.
My parents always say that except for their birth, I was the best baby. I may have been 24″ and 10lbs, but I hardly cried and slept at least 11 hours a day each day.
My daughter still does that (sleeps for 11-14 hours a night). She went to bed last night around 10 pm, and I had to wake her up at 11:30 am to take her to Nana’s house. It’s great except that Huggies doesn’t make a diaper that can contain that much liquid……..
Lucky. My daughter spent the longest time with her days & nights mixed up which meant someone (meaning me) had to stay up with her all night.
I had a friend once who intentionally stuck a paperclip into a socket… in eighth grade… in class. He also put a whole packet of those mint strips thingies in his mouth… in class.
My lesson with electricity happened last year when I went to adjust the temp setting on the water heater. I couldn’t see very well and I was poking around with a screwdriver trying to find the thermostat on it and suddenly noticed this weird, unpleasant sensation running up my arm. It took a second to realize that the water heater was trying to fry me, but the instant I figured it out I dropped the screwdriver. Really creepy. Really stupid.
Don’t come down here and try that. We’re not on 110, but 230.. it will do more than give you a weird feeling..
I’m not gonna try that again period. Electricity already scares me enough that I get nervous just changing a light bulb.
That happened to me once. I was plugging in a charger, and my fingertip touched the metal bit right when the electricity went through. My arm was spasming.
AWESOME.
People of HypnoticPhantom’s kind do exist, and… THEY REPRODUCE!!!!one!!
[screams and fainting ensue]
-robs sigma while he is out-
7 dollars and 35 cent…
picture of ronnie with big heart drawn around it…
socks that dont match..good bitter troll can make socks puppets
-while bitter troll is distracted with the hot glue gun (hhhhooot!), Sigma uses this opportunity to hiduken chop him on the medulla abloom gatta-
Moltres, Sandshrew, and Jiglypuff pokemon cards, $5 and catnip. SWEET!! Enough money for chocolate fudge the whole week!!
Blanket statements criticizing righties’ hero are not received well. Oh, and standing outside to watch the storm probably will get me smacked around by dead leaves from the neighbor’s tree, which will make my kids laugh hysterically.
I don’t mind seeing Reagan critisized, as I said, he wasn’t perfect by any measure. But he was far and away better than Carter. You would have had to been there to fully appreciate what I mean.
I always hear about the economic boom that was the 80s that Reagan brought in. The way I remember it was that there was nothing close to a boom for my family. It sounds like it was another boom for the rich and for big business, which yeah, technically would be a positive impact for the economic stats, but doesn’t really reflect how he impacted the entire country. But I was just a kid then, so what do I know. *shrug*
Well I can assure you I wasn’t rich but I certainly benefitted more from what Reagan did than I did under Carter. I suggest you ask your parents if things were better under Carter or Reagan.
bitter troll would like repubrikans to step back a moment…let the demokrates post here
GOOD THINGS REAGAN DID..
no smart assery…really list good things he did do…bitter troll knows there is some..every president did good and bad..
please posty some good things ronnie reagan did below
Department of Redundancy Department is redundant.
*peeks out from kitchen*
OK Boss, I’ll bite.
Apart from repairing the economy and ending the national shame that was the Carter era, one of the most important things Reagan did was to end the Cold War.
I’m sure the Cold War doesn’t get much play in today’s education system, but it was a far bigger existential threat than anything we’ve faced before or since.
Today, you may have the worry that if your town comes up on the terror-rama roulette wheel, you may lose a building, a water system or 10,000 of your closest friends, but during the Cold War, many lived with the certainty that their entire city and millions of people could be wiped off the face of the earth with the push of a single button.
When Detroit was in its heyday back in the sixties, we pretty much accepted that there was a bullseye on the ground at the intersection of Ford Road and Wyoming Street, which given the proximity of a significant percentage of the country’s manufacturing capacity to that intersection, would be among the first ten spots to be wiped off the planet if the Soviets got off the first shot.
Having grown up about five miles from that intersection, my childhood home would have likely been within the blast crater, so the idea of the Cold War wasn’t just an abstract or academic concept.
So yeah, the fact that Reagan led, not ruled, not regulated, not demagogued, but led the American people to a victory in the Cold War was a pretty big deal.
Unfortunately, the kids of Tygor’s generation who have grown up on the interwebz are too inclined to accept what they find on the web as real and as the whole story, because they rarely get presented the unvarnished, unmolested history that us older farts lived through. So, it’s no big surprise that they’re disillusioned about their future.
Shut off the TV, video games and web browsers, go to the library and read actual books on the history of WWII and the Cold War, ask your ancestors about their experiences. If you don’t learn from history, you’ll repeat it.
Thank you, thank you, a million times thank you. You said that far more eloquently than I could have. I grew up with “Duck and cover” as part of our daily routine in class. And for a child to grow up with the daily threat of nuclear holocaust is unimaginable. People need to revisit history with an open mind once in awhile to get the full gist of what was going on.
Given how much of the Cold War was a war of expenditure, I’m not sure you can really say that Ronnie won it, rather than happened to have the Soviets capitulate during his watch.
Yeah, the way I understood it, the Soviets were already falling apart and Reagan was there to make us sound badass while they pulled the plug.
I don’t think the Soviets were falling apart as such. Up to that point they were maintaining the status quo, what with the SALT talks that had been going on during the previous administrations. What Reagan did was step up the military spending, thus forcing the Soviets to try and keep up. Financially, they couldn’t with the end result of the Soviet Union folding.
Hey- never said I didn’t like Reagan.
And I don’t read about the news on the internet.
actually, he would go up and HUG them
AaaaaaaAaAaaaaaAAAAAAAaaAaAAaaaagggghhhh!
It’s Zombie Reagan
Cresco is Zombie Reagan Awareness Season. If you see a strange old guy asking for braiiinnnnsssss and regressive tax cuts, call the authoritiees. This is a cryptid known as Rightus extremus. It is very, VERY dangerous.
Sorry to say but this one is retarded.
Reagan repealed the Fairness Doctrine, thereby allowing Rush and Hannity to have First Amendment rights. Also Comic Sans sucks.
Look what else this hypocrite made: http://cheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=4114169
Wow…that speaks for itself.
What?
The fact that he is putting words into Reagan’s mouth saying REAGAN WOULD WANT YOU TO STOP PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH?
That’s not nearly as bad as people who actually *are* putting the words in a dead man’s mouth.
Alright, children. You may go back to your dreamland now. The existence of the … life-forms… such as the Obamanation, the pelosi woman, billy and hilly-mae clintax, and that ilk is a direct result of the failed generation which was so recently ‘celebrated’ by re-living Woodstock. Yeah, a great music festival, with many wonderful and immortal acts. but attended by persons who should not be placed in charge of a mud-puddle, much less a city, state, or (God Forbid!) our country.
You think it’s going well? You think you’ll do better over the next 3 years, plus however long it takes to correct this horror?
Go back to your dreamland.
(Don’t worry, ACORN will count you as 5000 people during the next census.)
Who keeps letting this jackass near a computer? I fear for a future where you might be in charge of so much as a lemonade stand.
Leave it; they’ll only start spouting about their 1st Amendment rights.
1) He has a point.
2) He’s setting himself up for failure there with that name. Poor guy.
Do you believe anything you hear?
I’m not even going to bother.
wow… talk about grasping for straws….
More like grasping for a haystack.
I think that people should probably stop putting words in a dead guy’s mouth.
Regan was a republican, you silly daft wanker. (directed at OP)
And so was Reagan!
Can you see anywhere in the caption or the Ordinal Post that says he was a Democrat?
No. I just felt a need to at least bring “required”’s post a bit closer to relevance by veering off the topic of Regan.
I was just asking. Let’s face it, there’s a minimum of of accuracy, relevance or even clarity in “required”’s post.
Indeed. Too much work for me to start going into it all, when it was so easy to get snarky about even the first word. ;p
(Why are so many Reagan-fans incapable of writing his name?)
You mean besides required? That would be sad if so many of them couldn’t spell that.
IT’S R-E-A-G-A-N.
Besides required, yes.
I’ve just noticed it in just about any thread where he’s mentioned. I think it mainly bothers me because it’s common for me to think what I read (it helps me slow down the reading so I hopefully don’t read too fast and miss half of what it says) and “Regan” changes my internal pronounciation of it so much I probably overreact.
… and, well, because I think it’s very nonchalant to not bother spelling people’s names right.
Annnd…someone doesn’t know very much about Reagan – or doesn’t know much about the radio hosts involved, one or the other. Probably both.
Bologny! He certainly would not have.
No, no, guys, Reagan would totally do that. He hated their guts.
Picture: not funny.
Caption: not funny.
Also, humor is best when based on at least a fragment of truth.
Dropped into PK to see if it is any less irrelevant/boring recently. Will not return for a while.
Maybe their making a reference to Micheal Steele stating that he, not limbaugh is the head of the repulican party(which if the president was republican, they would be the head of like reagan was), then limbaugh saying Micheal wasen’t a fit leader, and then Steele saying how he was “sorry” and that Limbaugh “Misunderstood him”. So there just saying Reagan would have had balls unlike Micheal Steele
REAGAN SMASH!