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Yes, I called for Bill Clinton and Larry Craig to resign for their philandering.



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Yes, I called for Bill Clinton and Larry Craig to resign for their philandering. But I don’t have to. That’s how hypocrisy works.

(John Ensign)

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  1. morecowbell says:

    isn’t that ted knight?

  2. I have to admit, it’s nice to see both “philandering” and “hypocrisy” spelled correctly! *golf claps*

    • viking gal says:

      *opera claps*

    • Captain Wow says:

      I once saw hypocrisy spelled hypokrasy. Not kidding. I nearly had an aneurysm.

      • quietgrrrl says:

        I was once accused of being a hipocrite. It’s hard to feel insulted by someone who can’t spell the insult. I was, in the same breath, also called an ugly fake, a baby killer and everything that’s wrong with the world. All because I didn’t like someone’s Harry Potter fic. That was an awesome day.

        I have a colleague who was accused of being a “trader” for refusing to hand over library records to the legal authorities. (The accuser meant “traitor.”) That inspired a mountain of Trader Joe’s jokes.

        • viking gal says:

          That makes the common student paper on “sever high blood pressure” seem not so bad, somehow.

          • Eric-in-STL says:

            A guy I knew from high school was grading AP exams this spring. He was amazed by the brilliance of some of the essays. Did you know Lance Armstrong landed on the moon? Or that the Republicans & Democrats are totally like the Autobots and Decepticons? And that satire is an important tool to use while “doing stuff?” These are *AP* tests for crying out loud!!!

            • Tyler says:


              I apologize on behalf of all somewhat intelligent teenagers that used their brain.
              So me (I’m only a half-breed, however. As you can see, I’m a little bit troll on my bad days.), AC, the Omega guy who told off Again, and….
              We’re a dying breed, Eric.

              • viking gal says:

                Some of the mistakes I see are obviously just brain cramps, or simple inexperience. I actually had a student not finish an essay and write “I’m sorry, but my brain just farted.”
                Some student mistakes are from over-dependence on spellcheck–and those can be hilarious!
                Some are OMG, didn’t you even TRY to open a book or a decent, reputable website?!?!!
                And some–those are my own goofs!

                • Tyler says:

                  Meh, I’d just bullcrap my way through the essay. I mean, I can do absolutely NO homework for a class and still get 100% on the test, and know the subject material better than most of the kids. (At this age, I know later the homework goes over things that aren’t discussed in class.) It’s just simple; talk yourself into a circle and finish off the paper, teachers are usually confused enough to ignore it. And yeah, people who either copy and paste DIRECTLY (I snitch on that one, it drives me nuts) or just make crap up definitely need to be helped. What subject, madam?

                • viking gal says:

                  Biology. And no, you can’t BS your way through knowing the various muscles of the body, what they do, and how muscles contract! Some of my students learn that one the hard way, every fall!
                  I didn’t learn how to BS until in grad school for an education degree, because you can’t fake what you don’t know in the sciences. With the possible exception of theoretical physics?

                  • Tyler says:

                    Tee-hee. You can, however, write a bunch of stuff and *totally and completely* forget what you are writing, and realize you’re talking in circles. Therefore, one would have to move on past that point because it would be completely immoral and rude to be mean to a teacher like that, even if you’re not 100% that your point is clear. And that is why even today, most of my essays can be easily written. (This is an example piece, Viking, look out for this in the classroom. :P )
                    And you can perfectly well BS the sciences! Just have to think up a few varying ways to say the same concept- By BS I don’t mean write about what you don’t know, I mean type without thinking about it carefully and occasionally you’ll realize you’ve said the EXACT same thing twice, in totally different ways. Biology was my favorite subject thus far, trumped only by Psychology. Science FTW?

                    • viking gal says:

                      An experienced teacher comes to the essay section prepared with a framework of what s/he expects to see in the essay, and how many points off for missing or incorrect info. Blood pressure? I expect to see effect of blood volume change on BP, effect of heart rate change, effect of artery dilation/constriction, effect of nervous system input (adrenalin) and how reflex-triggered and where the reflex is located. You could write 2 pages, and still get zero points with me!

                      • Tyler says:

                        Awesome. Awesome awesome. Wait, why would you ask a student the question “Blood Pressure” and expect that answer? :P
                        And how the reflex is triggered is part of the nervous system input, or the blood pressure, or how does that tie in?
                        Don’t be silly. I’d get all those points within two pages, but some of them would accidentally repeat throughout the paper.

                        • viking gal says:

                          No, I’d ask the question ‘how does the body respond to a drop in blood pressure?’, and expect that the student correctly tells me all about the proper reflex (using the correct location for sensors, neurotransmitter and brain portion involved), and how the heart rate, artery response and water volume control are changed (using the correct mechanisms and in what direction) as a result of that reflex, and how all of that fixes the low blood pressure.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Ah, I thought you meant reflex not as in how would the body instinctively react, but how the physical reflexes of the body would react when tapped (I.E- the knee that the doctor taps? That’s what I thought you meant.)

                        • viking gal says:

                          Same general concept, but using the autonomic motor system rather than somatic (organs, not muscles), and it goes to the cardiac acceleratory center of the medulla oblongata, rather than the spinal cord, etc, etc… More of a reflex web, than an reflex arc. Which makes it fun AND funky!

                        • Tyler says:

                          Do you teach college, or do your students just get a REALLY good education? Either way, I’m signing up for THAT class!
                          Plus I hear the teacher’s WICKED hot!

                  • jjmblue7 says:

                    But you can can’t BS your student-teaching either. The kids are WAY to willing to call you on it.

                    • Jane St.Clair says:

                      That is absolutely true. I did third grade for my student teaching and they were in the middle of learning cursive and the busted me out for my incorrect y’s and v’s.

                • Bronwyn says:

                  My middle schoolers are AMAZED when I can type in a line of their paper into Google and come up with the website where they copied their information. But they swear they came up with it on their own! Even though they can’t pronounce, much less explain, half the words in the paper. Thank goodness I teach middle schoolers. I don’t think I could deal with the high schoolers’ attempts to write a paper!

                  • paws4thot says:

                    Do they copy the entire paper from one site, or, say, one paragraph at a time from 20some different ones? Only, if they’ve copied individual paragraphs from different sources, it’s called “research”, not “plagiarism”. ;)

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              I think, if done right, the republicans and democrats are totally like the autobots and decepticons paper would be freaking hilarious to read. I would weep for the future of our planet if I didn’t know there were teens like AC and Tyler out there.

              • Tyler says:

                Jane, haven’t you EVER seen ANY zombie movies? Three isn’t enough. One of us is only 13! :P

                (Thinks about World War Z and The Zombie Survival Guide)
                Is it not awesome that my principal reads those books too?
                And yeah, I’ve been weeping enough for the future of the planet for the both of us, Janie.

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  Well I sure didn’t meant the Zombie Apocalypse was coming! I’m sure there are more of you out there, somewhere…

                  • Tyler says:

                    Other survivors of today’s idiotic, destructive culture? WHERE JANE?! -shakes hard- WHERE ARE THEY?! YOU HAVE TO TELL US SO WE CAN GET TO THEM BEFORE THEY TOP THEMSELVES OFF!
                    :P I don’t mean zombies, I mean most of us are zombies who tlk lik dis n thk is ok to txt otr (on the road, learned that one an hour ago.)

              • Eric-in-STL says:

                My question is: which is which? Because I’d give the paper an F if they said the Republicans were the Autobots. LOL

                • Tyler says:

                  Same. I should be glad neither of us are teachers, eh? Not that I’d say that, just we’d suck cause we give grades cause of our political views. (Actually, they do have abortion on me- think of it like this- the Autobots want to preserve a tiny life form they are super-advanced compared to, while the Decepticons want to destroy it so they can live their lives normally without worry!)
                  (By the way, I went to the opening showing of Transformers 2 last night- AWESOME!)

                  • Jane St.Clair says:

                    Oh good. We’re going on Friday and one of my friends tried to tell me he heard it was bad. I said he was a blasphemer. There is no way giant robots fighting each other makes a bad movie.

                    • the_original_shortright says:

                      all the reviews say there’s no plot. :( i had a co-worker see it last night. said the fight scenes were good but it was just TOO long and that the plot was iffy.

                      • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

                        Really? You go to action movies for the plot? REALLY? Boy, we need to have a talk. ;-)

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          no, i’m even dumber than that. i go to johnny depp movies for the plot! ;-)

                          i like the action scenes, but if there’s nothing tying them together it kinda ruins it for me. at least in transformers 1 there was kinda a reason for the big battles between the autobots and decepticons. in this one i hear it’s basically “hey guys lets have them fight for the sake of fighting… oh and lets throw megan fox in with some slo-mo running so her tits jiggle. oh and that shia kid? ummmm, he went off to college. yep. we gots a film!”

                        • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

                          Megan Fox’s tits jiggle?? Well, I was going to wait for it to come out on DVD (home theater system with 7.1 surround and 51″ flat screen) but it may be worth it to see said jiggling on the BIG screen…

                        • paws4thot says:

                          I don’t normally go for Transformers stuff (there are way better giant robot Animes), but was almost persuaded by a publicity still where she’s painting the fuel tank of a motorbike!

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          ivan and paws –
                          i’m a straight female. but i can look at a woman who looks good and go “damn, she’s hot”. halle berry… effing hot. marilyn monroe… effing hot (before she died because now she probably isn’t so hot).
                          i don’t get the megan fox deal. she’s not that good looking. sure, she’s tall, thin, has large (fake) boobs, and has long “sexy” hair… but she’s dumb as rocks and her face is so over-worked it’s not good looking.

                          what’s her appeal? honestly, i’m not being a smart ass… i see NO appeal in her. she’s not hot. *shrug*

                        • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

                          Short, my love…we marry the pretty ones with average bodies because we know that’s reality. We are average as well. We love them, and cherish them and want to grow old with them. But we fantasize about the Megan Fox’s of the world, and in our fantasies, they aren’t TALKING. Most of the time they are screaming, and to be honest, they might as well not have a head. Well, except for a mouth. That’s pretty important. And not just for the screaming. *blush*

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          ivan,

                          i get all of that. trust me, there are male movie stars i feel the same way about. but they have great faces. megan fox’s face looks like in about 6 months she’ll match mickey rourke… i don’t find that especially good looking. maybe that’s why i don’t find her hot. from the neck down she’s hot… the face is what kills it. :-/

                        • Tyler says:

                          Ivan, definitely worth the 10$.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Short, you evidently still haven’t seen the sequel to Transformers, because otherwise you’d have seen that shot of her spread over a motorcycle.
                          I had a little bit of a seizure when that was on the screen.

                        • Jane St.Clair says:

                          So… from a guy’s point of view maybe you’d do her from behind and grab her hair? You know who I don’t get shortright, Jennifer Aniston. I have never thought she was attractive and guys are all over that sh*t. Weird.

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          i think the appeal with anniston is the “girl next door” sort of thing. i don’t really get it NOW, back when she was slightly chubbier in her earlier friends days she was cute for sure. the one i REALLY don’t get in angelina jolie. men (and women) fawn all over her saying she’s so gorgeous… she’s fug. she’s got big lips and an anorexic body. she always looks like she rubbed crisco on her face and you just KNOW she’s a major “see you next tuesday” in person.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Neither did I, Jane. Of course, I grew up when she was OOOOLDDD.
                          And no, that’s not what I was thinking, you sicko :P
                          I was thinking it was a terrific display!

                        • Tyler says:

                          Same deal, Short. She has lips that could probably fit around Long Island. Whoa, pun is fail.
                          Anorexia= Snap in half in bed= FAIL!

                        • PortlandMark says:

                          Short: Other than the one scene in Transformers I where she’s working on the car engine, I totally agree with you.

                          Also, she has stupid tattoos.

                        • PortlandMark says:

                          Aniston is still one of the hottest around, to me. Somehow seems to remind me of the hottest of the girls I grew up with. Also, any woman her age who still has such a great figure is super hot in my book (yum, age-appropriate hotties!)

                        • paws4thot says:

                          Jennifer has never done it for me; The only permanent cast member in Friends I’d have gone with was Lisa Kudrow.

              • Well, there’s a few more…I know I’ve got a couple, and Mothergoose also has an awesome teenager, I believe?

            • the_original_shortright says:

              my AP calc test should have given the grader a few laughs. i was good at calc. really, i was. but i knew that i’d forgotten all the formulas from the beginning of the year and that i wasn’t going to be able to scrape my way through some of the problems. so i pulled in my art background and i drew myself taking the test, getting stumped on some questions, ripping the test to shreds, breaking my pencils and then doing a jig on top of my desk. i did it comics-style with panels and all. each question that i KNEW i couldn’t answer got a new comic.

              i managed to get a 3 on the test anyway. maybe i got some sympathy points.

      • eddiepscetti says:

        Wasn’t the prior name of Outkast?

      • Tyler says:

        At least you weren’t called a hippocrast. I wonder, does that mean you’re *CRAZY* for Hippopotamuses?

        • Tyler says:

          Btw, I love the site in the link, it’s usually full of teh funny. (Any kids reading, SEVERE inappropriate warning- these are texts sent while drunk. Don’t read them, they’ll spoil all the “firsts” of college for you.)

          • Tyler says:

            Idiot. -facepalm- Forgot the link.
            What an idiot this Tyler kid is!

          • the_original_shortright says:

            i don’t know if ALL of them are sent drunk. i’ve seen many in there that are the sort of stupid banter my friends and i would use stone sober. but we’re also weird. (big surprise there, right?)

            • Tyler says:

              Meh, me too. I like it cause these people have to get drunk to be like me. Makes me giggle.

              • the_original_shortright says:

                when i get drunk i actually am much more careful with my typing and what i’m saying. learned that freshman year in college when IMing with my older brother and my parents. when they couldn’t tell i’d been drinking i knew i was a-ok.

        • paws4thot says:

          Perhaps it’s a typo for “Hypocaust”, which would make you an ancient Roman central heating system?

  3. eddiepscetti says:

    “Get off my damn lawn!”.. “Oh wait, Clint Eastwood I’m not”

  4. Nailin Palin says:

    No wonder the Republicans are having problems. They are so busy banging everything that moves, they aren’t taking care of business.

    • viking gal says:

      “It’s Business Time”

      • That’s why I’m wearing my business socks…

        • viking gal says:

          I’m wearing my ‘it’s too darned cold and rainy and I haven’t seen the sun in weeks’ socks. *grumbles and gets another sweater*

          • Tyler says:

            Is it that cold over there, Viking? I’m in Concord and it doesn’t seem to be sweater-worthy (T-shirt and shorts weather, for me :P )

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            It was 98 today. I had errands to run. I spent most of the day not being in my car long enough for the air conditioner to cool it down.

            • Eric-in-STL says:

              It’s 98 here too. And my car has been acting up. Apparently turning the AC on makes my car decide to sputter and die every couple miles. So I can make it from here to the store in about an hour and a half feeling relatively cool, or get there in about 5 minutes drenched in sweat. It’s a tougher decision than you might think.

      • The Steve says:

        Viking Gal that is pure win.

        It makes me want to do some business with you. It’s Business Time.

        • Aww yeah.
          That`s right baby.
          Girl, tonight we`re gonna make love. You know how I know, baby? ‘Cause it’s Wednesday. And Wednesday night is the night that we make love. Tuesday night’s the night that we go and visit your mother, but Wednesday night is the night that we make love. ‘Cause everything is just right conditions are perfect. There’s nothing good on TV. Conditions are perfect. You lean in close and say something sexy like, “I might go to bed I’ve got work in the morning.” I know what you’re trying to say baby. You’re trying to say, “Oh, yeah. It’s business time. It’s business time.”

    • chinscratch says:

      Actually, now is a great time for the Republicans. Sure, they’ve had a few sex scandals, but lately it’s been with ADULTS. WOMEN even.

      Surely you can see how this is an improvement.

      • Tyler says:

        YAY! WOMENS!
        Wait… Republicans who stand for abstinence-only while opposing abortion? If I was a woman, I’d run the other way.

        • viking gal says:

          I’m betting that the Republicans in question were practicing contraception at the time of scandal-fodder creation?!

          • Tyler says:

            But-But-But! How would they learn about contraceptives! Those are clearly evil and immoral and our children shouldn’t ever have to *learn* about them because they’re part of life- NOO! Hypocrisy has fallen upon the Republican party once again! :P

      • Paul says:

        True, though if you expand the group to include ALL right-wing nutcases, you’re right back to kiddie porn (on the computer of that “white supremacist” who attacked the Holocaust Museum).

    • Eric-in-STL says:

      Hey, if they want to hump everything that moves, more power to them. They just need to EMBRACE that horniness instead of pretending it’s only for sick, depraved individuals.
      “We’re fscking our way across America, and we’re proud of it!”
      That’s something our country can get behind!

  5. deadinfrance says:

    Makes me proud to live in Nevada-NOT

    • eddiepscetti says:

      Hey, at least you have Tahoe!! That’s reason enough to go to Nevada.

      • Isn’t Tahoe technically in, um, California?

        • eddiepscetti says:

          Both.. The Nevada side has the casinos..

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            That’s really the whole point of the state of Nevada.

            • Tyler says:

              Casinos and Las Vegas?

            • eddiepscetti says:

              .. and brothels.. but I have no knowledge of those.. I swear!

            • ♀nΣ šWε└∟ ♥ ƒ∞þ says:

              No, actually it’s not. It comprises a large part of the industry that fuels the Nevada economy. But somehow, most people forget that there’s far more to Nevada than casinos and brothels. The “brothels” are barely a blip on the radar, and the casinos are just one catalyst that helps create jobs in 1,000 other industries which in turn, supports a populace of hard-working regular folks. Gee, maybe just like the other 49 states? :shock:
              Should mention at this point that no offense was taken at anyone’s comments here (I laughed at most of them) ~ and, for the record, none intended from my end. Truly.

              ~ I just wanted to speak up for Nevada because it’s actually a great place to live. We’ve got the good, the bad and the ugly, just like every other state in the union.
              The thing is, I’m sure that just as, say, a Wisconsin resident, for example, gets really tired of the “whole point of the state of Wisconsin is cheese and football” type jokes … we get :roll: of … well, I’m sure y’all see the point I’m trying to make. Sorry to run on this way and take up the space with … well, just “another opinion.”
              *ahem* Commence with the fun again! Don’t mind me, but I do appreciate having the opportunity to “pop in” and “pop off” about something important to me. *pops out again* ;)

              • PortlandMark says:

                “I just wanted to speak up for Nevada because it’s actually a great place to live. ”

                Well, except for blistering heat, no precipitation unless it’s a flood, and having to import all your water from neighboring states.

                • the_original_shortright says:

                  as a resident of a state on the great lakes… i was pretty ticked when arizona and other such “dry” states asked us to build a big old pipeline down to them because they needed water. have you looked at vegas lately?! turn off the freaking bellagio fountain and you’ve got drinking water for a few days. same in arizona… did you know that the worlds tallest water fountain is in a phoenix suburb? it’s fresh water. they’re actively wasting the little water they ahve and then want us to give up ours? nu uh.

                  if i’m giving you any water… it’s the lake erie water from edgewater park. the fecal chloroform count there is so high you’re not even allowed to swim in it. giardia is serious business.

                  • Fecal coliform, although it probably will knock you out. ;-)

                    • the_original_shortright says:

                      yeah, that too.

                      (i just know to stay the hell away from edgewater and usually mentor headlands beach too.)

                  • yikes says:

                    Yes! That’s Fountain Hills, my brother used to live there. I’ve seen it, big waste of water… very pretty. They water a bunch of golf courses with drinkable water down here in AZ. if you can believe that.

                • ♀nΣ šWε└∟ ♥ ƒ∞þ says:

                  Ooooh, did I hit a nerve? And you realize you’re making generalizations about the whole state based on a very small part of it – STILL.
                  Well, meh! Why am I bothering? You don’t really care. So, I really shouldn’t either.
                  Apparently the word “fun” doesn’t always apply here, does it? And heaven forbid that I do like where I live. Every place has its perks and its poop. It’s sad that so many seem happier filling the comment pages with cranky little rebuttals, regardless of the subject matter. I find it sad that too often, it’s done to simply make sure another poster feels like they’ve stepped into … well, hey, have at it. Nice technique, too, by the way: quote me and zing me and my home in one charmingly nasty little sentence.
                  Whatev’! May you always find it cozy in your perfect little grump-knot world. Oh, and for the record, you may, with my blessing, stick your little comment where the sun don’t shine … oh wait, that’s Portland, isn’t it? And you’re already there.

                  • paws4thot says:

                    Other than legal gambling and hookers, and the Grand Canyon, why would anyone bother to go to Nevada?

                    • Tyler says:

                      Paws, maybe for Las Vegas’ strip clubs? -shrug-
                      When I play Monopoly, I always ask for 5$’s in ones instead, then whenever people ask, tell them I’m saving for Vegas.

                      • paws4thot says:

                        That’s kinda the point; without legal gambling, would there even be a Las Vegas to have strip clubs?

                        • Tyler says:

                          There would be *some* version of Las Vegas. You know men. Maybe named Strip City?

                    • yikes says:

                      oops, Grand Canyon is in Arizona…

                  • PortlandMark says:

                    Wow, overreact much?

                  • I like Nevada, what I’ve seen of it. Spent a week in Reno for a conference and flew into Las Vegas when I was doing some work out near Death Valley. I like the desert-ness of it; but then I’m kinda weird. ;-)

                  • Jane St.Clair says:

                    Whoa. Serious troll is serious. Hey, I’ve lived in a lot of states and traveled through even more. There’s good points and bad points about all of them. I’ll be the first to laugh and make fun of the state I’m living in, I suggest you lighten up and do the same.

              • The Steve says:

                I wanted to speak up on behalf of Wisconsin.

                We really are a state of Cheese, Beer, and Packer Football. If you can’t be happy with that, then get the fu(k out.

            • deadinfrance says:

              And the Moonlight bunny ranch….

    • m00finsan says:

      Can’t say I blame you. Between this guy and a total chickenshit representing you guys in the Senate, I can see where you’re coming from.

  6. Why didn’t he do it in the right part of Nevada and just pay for it?

    There is a ridiculous article by Ms. Lopez that can be found at NRO (a day or two ago) talking about this fellow’s “redemption.” Gag me with a shovel!

  7. Tyler says:

    Hey guys, new video from Thelonelyisland, it relates to the LOLs we’ve got on this site so I thought I’d put it here. Linky. :)

  8. HarbingerOfLOLz says:

    He reminds me of Barry Bostwick.

    • eddiepscetti says:

      My God! He’s a shape shifter.. how many people can one person look like?!?!

      • Tyler says:

        As many as there are clones that I’ve made of him…
        After traveling back in time and resurrecting the dinosaurs to battle the alien predators, of course. But that happens in the future. And I brainwash the dinosaurs to fight alongside humans, of course. Silly Eddie, why would you ask such a silly question when a being such as Tyler exists?

      • Tessie says:

        He also looks like J. Peterman and John Bunnell [sp?].

  9. Anniee451 says:

    Unlike Kennedy, Frank, Edwards, Clinton, et al. this guy will be voted out because that’s what Republicans do with sexual miscreants. Rightly so – if he doesn’t resign in disgrace he should be voted out in disgrace. He can and should be held to a higher standard – despite the double standard.

    Dems aren’t hypocrites because they have no principles. The rest of us expect better from representatives, and rightly so. Won’t hear too many screaming “So what! A little dress stain, a little drowning at Chappaquiddick, a little underage gay prostitution ring in the basement – that’s their business, let’s talk policy!” Nope. He’ll go down in flames and that’s just the way it is. I wish Dems could be held to such standards; but that’s the problem – profess and follow no standards and you can never be called a hypocrite (which is apparently the only epithet that matters.)

    • Anniee451 says:

      If nothing else, giving his political enemies ammunition proves he’s not fit to serve. (In case anyone forgot, these are public servants, not our masters.) So be it – buh-bye, Ensign and Sanford both.

    • Paul says:

      Um, so you’re suggesting that Republicans have HIGHER moral standards than Democrats? Really? The fact that the Republicans eagerly court and support creationists, anti-abortionists, the anti-gay crowd, the NRA and the whole gamut of “black helicopter” nutcases somehow escaped your attention? Or is it that you believe that there are no non-sexual immoralities?

      While there certainly are decent Republicans, taken collectively the group of Republicans in the House of Representatives is not by any stretch of the imagination a group with high moral standards. Quite the opposite.

      • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

        It’s ok Paul. A thread without Anniee spewing vitriolic virulence is like a thread without sunshine.

        LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

        • Paul says:

          Yup, I knew that. It’s kinda fun to poke ‘em every once in a while, especially as they’re generally convinced that they have the moral HIGH ground.

          It would help if we reminded them more often that the religious right is in fact the moral swill of America.

      • steve says:

        well if you want to run your parties banner of….lets see. sticking scissors up a womans vagina and snipping off the head, then arms followed by the legs of a baby…then I think Morality might be in question. Oh and most Republicans could care less what homosexuals do in their life but if you are going to force it into the public spot light…be prepared to accept our freedom of speech. Same thing with creation if you want to put your faith in evolution, fine. But we have a right to speech as well. NRA????? are you saying it’s imoral to own a gun??? Funny to me how the left is so pro-science when it comes to, attempting to say their is no God, but ignores science when it comes to abortion.

        • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

          Jane! We have fresh stock just in for BabyRitas! I’ve been working all week distilling republican tears for the salt. Bless Ensign & Sanford for helping out on THAT front!

        • paws4thot says:

          Abortion – because obviously it’s way more moral to force 2 people into a marriage that neither of them wants, or to murder someone for being prepared to remove a growth which might become a human being from a woman’s body.
          Homosexuality – You don’t have want to do it to believe that it should be discussed as freely as heterosexual relationships, and accept that homosexual couples should have the same legal protections on “community property” as heterosexuals.
          Gun law – Did you ever bother to read the Second? I did, and it explicitly allows hunting weapons, or weapons owned by organised and trained state militia. Do you want to try and convince us that, say, a Desert Eagle, a 0.22″ Beretta or a semi-automatic rifle are hunting weapons?

        • Earbrass says:

          Hey Steve, I don’t understand why your lot have such an issue with the Iranian govt. You clearly have so many values in common, and the same mediaeval world view. Weird. ;-)

        • Paul says:

          Nice collection of strawmen there, Stevie.

          Beautiful illustration of my point: the religious right is first and foremost a collection of people with no morality whatsoever.

        • Tyler says:

          … Is it strange that I admire this man’s huge spelling, grammatical and capitalization errors in an odd, detached sort of way? I mean, this guy isn’t displaying any signs of logical thought here, I mean really… “Republicans could care less what homosexuals do in their life but if you are going to force it into the public spot light…be prepared to accept our freedom of speech.”
          If Republicans didn’t care what homosexuals did in their lives, they wouldn’t need to exercise their free speech.
          Use the right there, they’re and their please.
          You are aware that you are grossly exaggerating the process of abortion, correct? You know that they do not actually cut the baby limb from limb, or are you an idiot? And that it’s not done with scissors?
          And Steve, the fact is that I’m not complaining about your right to free speech, just asking you to clean up the act a little over there, if you want to express your opinion and have ANYONE respect or give it an open ear. And once again, it’s not that any Christian Republican doesn’t deserve a right to free speech, they can have that all they want, but people who are going to exercise that right should at least realize that the idea is to separate church from state, and if you’re going to campaign to a law that would suit you because of your religion, you are illogical and wrong in your reasoning.
          On another note, the ” Funny to me how the left is so pro-science when it comes to, attempting to say their is no God” Is a completely FAIL argument, you moron . You think everyone on the left says there is no God? Then you need to go back to preschool and learn the phrase “Assume makes an ass out of you and me.” Because that’s exactly what you’re doing there, and you need to think your asinine posts through next time.

      • Anniee451 says:

        Are you KIDDING me? What in the hell do you think is “immoral” about the NRA, being pro-life, or believing in creation?

        That is the most bass-ackwards thinking I’ve ever seen in my life. Turn it around 180 degrees and you might make some sense.

    • PortlandMark says:

      “Dems aren’t hypocrites because they have no principles”

      Aside from, you know, equal justice and opportunity for everyone, regardless of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.

      Funny how the only principle Republicans get upset about is people enjoying their private equipment.

      • Anniee451 says:

        Conservatives and libertarians already believe in equal rights for ALL under the constitution – not collective identity politics, but blind justice and actual rights belonging to all human beings alike. So no, that doesn’t work Mark.

  10. IJ Styles says:

    James Brolin What?? lol.. : )

  11. Aircaptain9 says:

    It’s almost hypocritical, but what Craig and Clinton did was illegal.

    • PortlandMark says:

      Lying about a BJ so your wife doesn’t find out is hardly a hanging offense. Getting one, in private, isn’t like soliciting in a public place where children are likely to be exposed to one’s crude behavior.

      $.02

      • The Steve says:

        So I can’t ever be president because I’ve received a blowjob in a public place?

        Oh well…a life without blowjobs isn’t worth living!

        • the_original_shortright says:

          despite having given a bj in public (without an audience though, that would be awkward), i can still be president because obviously they didn’t take women into account when they wrote the “moral code”. :)

          • Have I ever given a bj in public? Depends on what your definition of “in public” is…

            • Tyler says:

              Don’t be silly, Diss. I saw you on New Year’s in Times Square this year. That is most DEFINITELY public.
              Just kidding, of course ;)

            • the_original_shortright says:

              for myself i’m counting picnic table at a scout camp (late at night and no one was camping at that site) and an elementary school playground in the afternoon… but it was the summer so there were no kids around. at all. trust. it would be really perv-y and disgusting if there were kids around.

            • Eric-in-STL says:

              Have I ever received a bj in public? Depends on…well, nevermind. No, I haven’t.

          • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

            That’s it. Short! Marry me!

            • the_original_shortright says:

              i warn you… i don’t look like megan fox! ;)

              • Tyler says:

                Meh, Megan Fox isn’t *that* great; just because she has a nice body doesn’t mean I’d ever want a girl to look like her :P I’m not sure Ivan would, either.
                It’d ruin the fantasy. XP

                • the_original_shortright says:

                  i’ve been told more times that i care to count that i look like a pre-coke, pre-lesbian lindsay lohan. but i’m older than her, so that skank looks like me if anything.

                  however, i don’t see the resemblance at all. :roll:

                  • Tyler says:

                    -Mind goes numb and head drops to the side stupidly-
                    Damnit, teh imaginary women on this site are always making me think the most unimaginable things. :P

                    • the_original_shortright says:

                      i iz not imaginary. :(

                      what on earth are you “unimagining”? could be something fun to try out with someone, sometime.

                      • Tyler says:

                        I’z imagining Lindsey Lohan pre-coke minus all the crappy make-up. :P
                        And no, not *imaginary*, but you certainly are female, and on teh interwebs. therefore, you cannot be called real unless you try out some of that unimaginable stuff :P

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          there are any number of “unimaginable” things i’ve tried out. pretty sure i’m real by that definition. not to drag other PK-ers into the discussion but i was never the teen like AC is. i didn’t blush at penis jokes or anything like that. i did well in school and sports and worked full time… so i partied when i had the time.
                          if you’ve got facebook you should join the “PK Irregulars” group. you can see that some of us wimmens from PK are indeed pretty cute (i’m counting diss, charro, jane and froo in that mix because i can’t remember who else is in the group).

                        • Tyler says:

                          -heads to PK Irregulars and spams friend requests- because you guys are AWESOME! :D

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          *accepts spam friend request because i started this*

                        • Tyler says:

                          Short, you DO look like pre-crack Lindsey. I’s troo.

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          no no no! i’m older than her! pre-crack lindsay looks like me!

                          i still don’t see it though… what is it that causes the resemblance?

                        • Tyler says:

                          Nose and eyebrows. Definitely.
                          Oh, and when you slant your chin in a certain direction it makes the outlines of your faces similar.
                          Wow, Tyler feels like a clothing designer much?

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          *signs up for nosejob*

                          and you never did elaborate on the unimaginable things which you were imagining. we haven’t had any really raunchy sex stuff on here since DWN left.

                          (yes, i know i’m baiting a hormonal teenage male. i’m boooooooooored.)

                        • Tyler says:

                          I’m just going to go with this video instead, for the sake of my mental health…
                          :P

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          at work. no sound.

                        • AC says:

                          I don’t blush at Penis jokes!
                          …Just everything else…
                          O/T there’s always something weird about seeing my name mentioned in a thread I’m not part of. Makes me jump.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Don’t worry about it AC. What makes me jump is that I’m still tracking down all of Again’s derogatory remarks on various threads, while he uses different names. I’m starting to get angry. He won’t like me when I’m angry.
                          (BTW, speaking of, ever met anyone that pathetic? Not willing to apologize or argue points with or two a teenager, but going back through his prior threads and trashing there?) However, AC, you should take it as a compliment! :D

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          AC – i wasn’t trying to freak you out or anything by mentioning your name. i just know you’re a “good kid”. something DWN used to make fun of you for. i thought he took it a bit too far several times, but then again i was never that “good kid”.

                          you’re naive about a lot of things, but it works *for you*.

                        • Tyler says:

                          -headdesk- please semi-ignore the last half of my above post.

                        • AC says:

                          No, no I’m not freaked out. Just that seeing my name is weird…. “Good kid” sounds so Ned Flanders-y tho, lol.
                          And what’s this about PK irregulars facebook?

                        • Tyler says:

                          You has a facebook, AC?
                          look up “PK irregulars” in the search bar there, you’ll see us. :P

                        • AC says:

                          I think I have Facebook. Don’t know how it works. Have one friend and absolutely nothing on my profile but I’ll go and see if I can join the group…

                        • AC, if you do I’ll send you a friend request.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Once you join, you’ll have two friends :)

                        • AC says:

                          Damnit! I don’t know my password…

                        • Did you try clicking the “forget your password?” link?

                        • Tyler says:

                          Meh, why not make a new account? As long as you have a second email to register to, you can start a 2nd Facebook.
                          Of course, you could just reset the password. That’d work, but wouldn’t be nearly as dramatic.

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          i’ll friend you too. you’ll have THREE friends. :) and i’ll refrain from referring to you in ned flander-y sort of ways… or at least i’ll try to.

                        • Tyler says:

                          But Shortright, isn’t it tough when she’s just so innocent you want to give her hot chocolate? :P

                        • AC says:

                          I am not innocent! But someone mentioned hot chocolate? And I’ve joined the group now… Yay! But my page is very boring…

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          i don’t want to give her chocolate. i want to do what i did to my incredibly naive sorority sister.

                          a whole group of us went to the porn store the next town over. about half of the toys have a “realistic feel” and there’s a hole in the packaging that says “touch here to feel how realistic”. we made her touch every. single. toy. that said you could touch it. she was thoroughly embarrassed but laughed her whole way through the store… when she got engaged we bought her one of those toys. it’s probably still in the packaging.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Nobody got the Simpsons’ reference? It’s what Flanders does every night for his kids and sneaks Bart one sometimes too, because Bart seems like a “good kid.”

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          DOH! i totally missed the reference.

                          … i still would corrupt her the same way i did my sister. it’s just too much fun.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Same with my brother. It’s just impossible not to. The innocent are so much fun to twist. :)

                        • @AC: friended you!

                        • AC says:

                          You remind me of my cruel friend who had bought a whip and various other… things. She had to pick them up from someone else at school and delighted in showing me them so she could watch my face turn beetroot coloured. Oh hell, I’m going that colour just thinking about that day…

                        • AC says:

                          Thanks for the friendings, people! :D I has a happy! I’ll say hello when I find out how to work it…

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          AC – i’m shipping you furry handcuffs ALL THE WAY to scotland for your next birthday. >:)

                        • Tyler says:

                          I’m sending -covers mouth with hand and muffles entire speech-

                        • Tyler says:

                          Sorry, but it would’ve been illegal to say. ;)

                        • Eric-in-STL says:

                          GET A ROOM! Damn kids and your hormones…

                        • AC says:

                          @Eric: what was that apropos of?

                        • the_original_shortright says:

                          eric, i’m not a kid. maybe to “you old geezers” i am… but i’m squarely in my mid-20s. however, i am an instigator. :)

      • Anniee451 says:

        See? It’s all right when Dims do it, but not all right when anyone else does it. Double standard much? And if you actually think Hillary didn’t know; you’re crazier than you look.

        • Anniee451 says:

          Also, sexual harassment IS a crime, and it’s the one that plagued Clinton from Broaddrick to Jones to Willey and back again.

          • Dhoti says:

            I tried this before, but PK might have eaten my link —

            Has Bill finally harassed enough women to fill a softball team?

            • Anniee451 says:

              I daresay he had already filled the entire league before he ever hit the white house. :)

            • Eric-in-STL says:

              Fill a softball team with what exactly?

              • Dhoti says:

                Women he harassed.

                • Anniee451 says:

                  I’m stymied when I get the argument “They didn’t get away with it because they were Dims” because it’s so astoundingly dumb and willfully blind – I never know what to say to that one; just sputter and slam my head into the desk. How can people just not see what’s right in front of their faces this way?

                  By the way, that’s sexually harassed, molested or raped, not just harassed. When Willey (as she was having her tires slashed by Hell-to-Pay Hillary’s rent-a-mob and her children’s lives were being threatened) explained that his harassment consisted of pulling out his weiner and thinking she would be happy about it, I lost any last shred of affinity I had for the man. I mean, I hate guys who think that sh*t is going to turn a woman on; I really, really do. What a sleazeball.

                  • Deep Thought says:

                    *whips out Mr. Happy*

                    Mmmmhey, babeh…

                  • Eric-in-STL says:

                    Well, for one, nobody calls them Dims, so nobody probably knows WTF you’re talking about.
                    Secondly, people don’t get away with things because they’re Democrats. They get away with things because of other stuff. And you can only go so far with “getting away with stuff.” No, Bill Clinton didn’t get ousted from the White House, but his legacy is forever tainted by the scandals of his days there.

                    • Tyler says:

                      Yeah. About Dims, is that a “dim light bulb” reference or just an accent imitation, cause I can’t tell whether or not I should be mildly indignant.

                • Eric-in-STL says:

                  Oh see, I was thinking custard. Everything is better when it’s custard-filled.

        • J says:

          Dems aren’t screaming and crying about ’sanctity of marriage’ and enforcing morality.

          • Anniee451 says:

            That’s exactly the point. Because they don’t HOLD any principles, they don’t worry about being held TO them. Since they don’t value family or marriage or morality, it is just fine when they shatter *their* families, destroy *their* marriages with adultery, or run underage prostitution rings out of their basements (*cough Frank cough*) or kill women in their cars – their careers are not threatened because they never made the pretense of having any moral values, thus anything they do is just fair game and their own business, and even laudable because at least they aren’t hypocrites! As a libertarian I don’t hold to making laws governing people’s moral values – but the double standard is ludicrous. Hypocrisy is NOT the only moral failing. And you’d think you’d expect more out of your elected officials – it’s clear the Republicans do, since they vote these adulterers and so forth out pretty much every time. The amount of this same activity and worse on the other side of the aisle is stunning – it’s RIFE with scandal – but it’s not considered a scandal because, well, they aren’t moral people anyway. Good way to run a country. Not.

            • Tyler says:

              Anniee, it’s like you’ve been watching me since I was born. How do you know EVERY single activity I do on Thursday nights? :)

            • CleaningCaptain says:

              Oh really, we don’t have any principles? We’re not the ones who started a war on faulty intelligence. We’re not the ones who want torture to be legal. We’re not the ones who invented the Patriot Act. You honestly think you can do all these things and still claim to be principled? That’s hilarious.

            • Eric-in-STL says:

              *takes the bait, gets hook caught in cheek*
              It’s too hot out for these blanket statements.
              What you are suggesting is absolutely ludicrous and sick. I find it highly offensive that you think all liberals don’t have morals. There are immoral people on both sides of the aisle. Political party has absolutely nothing to do with morality. Liberals get married, have successful marriages, and amazingly raise their kids with morals. I know you’re shocked right now, but there’s more. Liberals think marriage is so great that they want EVERYONE to be able to do it, including homosexuals! But to not condemn those vile, repulsive gays must be a complete lack of any values at all, right?

              Have our leaders EVER followed this supposed moral higher ground you’re talking about? I’m sure there are plenty of politicians who are faithful to their wives who are still the slime of the earth. I don’t give a crap what politicians do in their private lives as long as they get the job done.

              • Anniee451 says:

                “I don’t give a crap what politicians do in their private lives as long as they get the job done.”

                Good, one less person on the “Another REpublican goes down in FLAMES” bandwagon – because who cares what he did? It’s his own private business.

                • Eric-in-STL says:

                  Ah, BUT I don’t like hypocrisy. And yeah, I’ll bitch up and down about guys like Ensign. And if Clinton went on tour to talk about how great monogamy is, I’d probably barf. And for the record, I was absolutely horrified by Clinton’s scandals in the late 90’s. It instigated a rather short stint as a Republican for me. It wasn’t until later that I became more jaded about the personal lives of politicians and learned to care more about what they did on the clock than what they did with their pants off.

                  • Anniee451 says:

                    Again, hypocrisy is the only charge that matters to the left; which is why they embrace no moral code.

                    However, that this or that leader has not lived up to the ideal of his moral code (and frankly it doesn’t take much to just not cheat on your wife) doesn’t have anything to do with the party at large, doesn’t reflect on the entire party – it reflects on Ensign and Sanford in these cases. To make it a collective guilt – see, those Republicans are hypocrites when in fact you have some individuals within the party who are (because they DARE to espouse any sort of moral code whatever – how dare they unless they’re perfect?) and that’s all it means. So long as you keep that in mind and I don’t start hearing the Republican refrain that was allllll over the media today (odd, because when a Dim is caught with his pants down or committing criminal acts no one screams that it’s THE DEMS THE DEMS ANOTHER DEM GOES DOWN IN FLAMES…except they usually don’t go down in flames; they go on to brilliant careers like Ted the Swimmer Kennedy) then we probably have no problem here – the Republicans WILL vote them out unlike your party, which keeps voting these immoral philanderers and whoremongers back in despite your protestations of being really, morally upright people. But you leftists like to have your cake and eat it too, and everyone – *everyone* knows you are hypocritical because of your double standards.

                    • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

                      You truly ARE bat-shit crazy, aren’t you? There are so many hypocrisys in your rant that I can’t begin to sort them out.

                      You make my ass ache. I’m going to bed.

                      • Anniee451 says:

                        Awesome. Then my work here is done!

                        • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

                          Atta girl! If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit, right? But it’s nice to see you admit to being bat-shit crazy. ;)

                        • Tyler says:

                          Hey! Don’t insult my motto like that, Ivan!
                          Hers is …. Something else! :P
                          She can’t have mine! :D
                          Ah, how I sound like my little brother all throughout his childhood.

                    • Eric-in-STL says:

                      *IF* Teddy did it, then Ted Kennedy didn’t get away with it because he was a Democrat. He got away with it because he was a Kennedy. Much like all the crap W got away with because he was a Bush. There are powerful families on both sides.

                      I guess we on the left can sort out between professional and personal lives. That helps us, though, since we don’t waste time and taxpayer money trying to legislate morality over everyone.

                      • Anniee451 says:

                        And those not on the left can often distinguish between their personal morality and that which can or should be legislated. For example, Palin’s record (unlike Der Fuhrer she actually had one) was fairly libertarian. But people were panicking in the streets, sure she wanted to round all nonbelievers up into gestapo camps and executre the heretics. It was all extremely silly. But then the left is silly.

                        • Eric-in-STL says:

                          No, Camelot is a silly place. The left and right are both silly sometimes. Life is silly.
                          And as long as there are those who want bring back school prayer, reverse Roe v. Wade, and oppress gays, then I disagree with your statement about what morality should be legislated. I don’t think the right has any better morals than the left.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          You do know that reversing Roe v Wade doesn’t make abortion illegal, right? And to at least half the country, abortion is the murder of an innocent baby, which is in and of itself (to them) a very great evil indeed? Your morals are such that it is IMMORAL to be pro-life, and frankly that’s kind of bizarre – but I don’t expect you to understand why, I guess. And prayer in school – well, that certainly would be Armageddon, wouldn’t it? It’s so immoral. Oh, wait, Muslim students are allowed to pray in school and are given special times and places to do it in…that’s certainly immoral.

                          Who’s oppressing gays then? That was the only clear moral I could get out of that morass except I don’t know of anyone who’s doing it. Sure the WBC Phelps crew would if they could, but everyone knows they’re crackpots.

                        • viking gal says:

                          Reversing Roe v. Wade would result in several state laws making abortion illegal, immediately.
                          I don’t consider it immoral to be pro-life. I consider it immoral to impose my religious beliefs on someone else’s rights via law. Some believe that a woman should not be allowed to have an abortion even if it is known that the pregnancy will kill her. I consider it the woman’s right to make that decision for herself.
                          Prayer in school is not immoral. Prayer imposed by the school upon a student is immoral. Prayer prevented by the school is also immoral Again, that is imposing someone else’s relgion, or lack of. The school system, administrators and teachers should not impose or prevent religious beliefs on a student, unless it is a private religious school.
                          Who is oppressing gays? If you don’t know, then you must live in one of the more hospitable communities. Me? I remember what happened in middle school and high school. Not to mention comments overheard that were made by persons of authority while being an adult. And I’m hetero.

                          I must be bored. Why am I bothering?

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          That canard about people who believe there shouldn’t be an abortion even in the case of, say, an ectopic pregnancy? It’s a straw man. There’s almost no one in the pro-life movement who believes that, and the few who may are nutcases and on the fringes. Being pro-life is not an extremist position. I don’t have a position one way or the other on it because I’m ambivalent – my moral beliefs are counter to my political beliefs so I refrain from arguing about it much. But to call it immoral to be pro-life is a HUGE stretch and a hell of a reversal – especially in light of the context of this conversation and what it’s about? I mean hello – we’re talking about slimeballs who get away with or don’t get away with sex scandals and the hypocritical double standard held by the left, who says it’s their private business in one case and in another jumps up and down screaming for the guy’s head. I said it stems from having no moral compass to begin with, thus avoiding the charge of “hypocrisy” as though hypocrisy were the only thing that matters, and as though one man’s hypocrisy makes the entire party or entire movement hypocrites (hint: it doesn’t.) Now we’re down to nitpicking over shades of gray when in reality we were supposed to be addressing basic sets of right and wrong that pretty much everyone should agree on – good versus evil. Whether pro-life is a dark shade of gray or the purest of white, it is clearly not a great evil (unless you are tearing down the straw man of “even if the mother’s life is in danger” which is not an issue in reality) so what is it doing here?

                        • Tyler says:

                          “Have our leaders EVER followed this supposed moral higher ground you’re talking about? I’m sure there are plenty of politicians who are faithful to their wives who are still the slime of the earth. I don’t give a crap what politicians do in their private lives as long as they get the job done.”
                          “Ah, BUT I don’t like hypocrisy. And yeah, I’ll bitch up and down about guys like Ensign. And if Clinton went on tour to talk about how great monogamy is, I’d probably barf. And for the record, I was absolutely horrified by Clinton’s scandals in the late 90’s. It instigated a rather short stint as a Republican for me. It wasn’t until later that I became more jaded about the personal lives of politicians and learned to care more about what they did on the clock than what they did with their pants off.”

                          Two paragraphs of Eric’s, Anniee, now you need to re-read them- I’m too tired and hungry to make this argument with you. It’s the hypocrisy that bothers him, not the lack of morals, and it’s not that Democrats jump up and down screaming for blood because of what he did, it’s because of what he promoted then PROCEEDED to do. It’s not a double standard if we’re not judging based on the morals of a person- merely what they say should and shouldn’t be done and if they follow that.
                          I’m sorry if this post has any errors/faults in logic, I’ll be back on in the morning to rethink and reshape it.

                        • Eric-in-STL says:

                          Ah, but Tyler, that is actually one of her kinda confusing points. She’s not calling it hypocrisy when liberals keep morality out of politics because we don’t have any to begin with. Her basic argument is little more than trying to make an insult logical.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          One of the first times I’ve been accused of trying to make anything logical – thanks! Indeed, I am and it is. The left are the biggest hypocrites of all – pretending to have morals while presiding over the biggest scandals there are, just because they make no pretense of HAVING any morals.

                          Just because this man or any other man fails to live up to his own moral code (for which he will be resoundingly defeated) doesn’t mean the moral code should never be spoken of, nor does it make the party or the movement (conservatives or libertarians) guilty of hypocrisy. It makes one man guilty of it at a time, no more no less. If only the left could live up to such standards. But having no scruples makes that tough,I realize.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          See, that’s that little (huge) collectivism versus individualism thing in action. I’m an individual with all the attendant rights and responsibilities thereof. So are Ensign and Conifer(WTFever) and they will pay the price. Oh well. At least they won’t have cadres of idiot hordes behind them screaming “THEIR BUSINESS AND THEIRS ALONE!” behind them, as Clinton, Frank, Kennedy, et. al. always do.

                        • Tyler says:

                          Anniee… you realize you just said that the left are the biggest hypocrites of all “The left are the biggest hypocrites of all – pretending to have morals while presiding over the biggest scandals there are, just because they make no pretense of HAVING any morals.”
                          THEN proceeded to say that
                          “It makes one man guilty of it at a time, no more no less. If only the left could live up to such standards. But having no scruples makes that tough,I realize.”
                          You realize you just did the exact same thing you accuse the left of? Doesn’t exactly strike me the right way…. What’s that word again? Hippopotamusness?
                          Hypoallergenic? No…. ;)

                        • Tyler says:

                          Apologies. “The left” should be in quotes.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          Yes I do realize that. When will you get what it means?

                        • Tyler says:

                          That you’ve just generalized an entire party and political affiliation because they dislike hypocrites, yet you consider them to be them, so you are making one of yourself?
                          F*ck. that post made no sense, or at least I think it didn’t. Talk about it in the morning, when I can think clearlly.

                        • Anniee451 says:

                          So does one man’s hypocrisy cast aspersions on the entire party or entire movement (conservatism) just because he couldn’t/didn’t live up to it? Or is he just one man? Because so far as I can see MOST conservatives not only believe but live up to their responsibilities, and that is the world I live in. Do you smear everyone because of him or don’t you?

                        • Tyler says:

                          Nope, and I haven’t commented on whether all/most conservatives live up to their own moral standards and expectations, merely debated that you saying “the left calls all of us hypocrites they shouldn’t generalize us like that” (That’s a shorter version of what I’m hearing)
                          Is hypocritical.

  12. Tessie says:

    Apparently the Department of Horrible Sweaters was so successful that it has now spun off a Department of Butt-Ugly Ties.


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