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Washington, D.C.
you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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Wow. Again?
Yup.
They forgot to add “Especially with the Democrats in charge” to the caption though.
Yeah. Now THAT would have been funny.
*Hopes above comment was sarcastic, for the sake of irony*
Yeah, because the Repugs were so pure of heart and altruistic. *eyeroll*
Yeah, because being altruistic is such a necessary role of the government. *eyeroll*
It actually is. ‘To serve the people’, see. What did you think? *eyeroll*
Fail. Eyeroll.
James Madison – Father of the Constitution – on the meaning of “general welfare”: ‘I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.’ ‘With *respect to the words general welfare*, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of the powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proof was not contemplated by its creators.’
Government exists to stay within its very well-defined, narrow limits, to protect us from harming one another by fraud, theft or coercion, and a few other very precisely defined duties. That it is now a behemoth of completely different character is no excuse for claiming that its purpose is really to “take care of us” or “be altruistic” (which is ridiculous on its face, because only individuals can be altruistic, not bureaucracies. (Don’t tell me about this or that group because that consists only of individuals who are altruistic and who voluntarily band together to practice their altruism – it has nothing to do with being forced into anything by the bureaucracy out of control.)
James Madison knew what the constitution was about and what it meant. Why is it that we don’t anymore?
It’s time to play “Pick Your Reponse!”
A) Too long, I’m not reading that whole thing….
B) Does that soapbox come in lilac?
C) Parenthesis FAIL
D) Well said.
Choose your fave.
That’s right, don’t bother with substance.
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Choice:
E) Ample use of the “Interrobang”.
So… I choose D), Well Said.
I’ll go with B! I liked A and C as well, but I did actually read it, mostly to observe the parenthesis fail but also because I’m a masochist.
There are times when I am so wordy I want to put parenthesis inside of parenthesis, but I have thus far managed to resist the lure. I chose A, but almost went for B because I love lilac.
Was it really too long to read? Two paragraphs?
It’s sad what our world is coming to when people get mentally exhausted when reading more than a couple sentences.
Read a book. It’s good for your brain.
Nobody said he was mentally exhausted, just lazy. Thanks for trying, come back later.
Oh, and if you didn’t get it, he was saying that’s what Anniee could choose to believe, if the response suited her. Did you read HIS whole post? ‘Cause I don’t see him noticing the parenthesis fail without reading her post, now that I think about it.
Thank you, Tyler. Jojo, please don’t complain about my inability to read when it’s clear you didn’t read (or at least didn’t understand) the fifty or so words I typed myself. And don’t chalk it up to “The World Sucks Now!” thing. Literacy is higher now than it ever was.
Glad to help, Igloo.
I’m just selective.
SB, you know they weren’t making fun of you right?
Yeah, I was responding to Jojo.
O.O I know
I can read nests, silly. But you know Jojo was making fun of Igloo, right?
Well, I said I liked option A
Actually last night when I was online I initially skimmed past Anniee’s post – there’s only so much bitter right-wing vitriol I can read in an evening – but then I went back and read it because of Igloo’s multiple choice post 
Yeah, it’s not so much that two paragraphs are too much to read, it’s that sometimes two paragraphs from Anniee are more than I want to deal with.
Books are generally well-written, though.
When I read a book, I go into it knowing I am going to read a book. When I come to this site, I am looking for a quick one or two lines.
Well then you should go someplace funnier, like failblog. We have too many discussions for us to meet your line maximum :/
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E. None of the above
And I agree with you. When government takes it upon itself to create a nanny state as it is now, not only are they overstepping their constitutional bound under the guise of “Serving the people,” they are obstructing our individual right to choose between living our lives altruistically or otherwise, which is our own sovereign right to begin with. Under the constitution, governments role is to keep us safe from foreign invaders and settle domestic disputes (not to be confused with keeping disputes from ever happening. That is a job for state legislators, if that state so chooses.)
Nice to meet yet another sane poster with an understanding of the proper role of government in this constitutional society. Stick around and keep posting
I’ll see if I can fit it in, what with my schedule being so full of checking the other websites I’ve pissed people off at
All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Only proving my f*cking point, but you’re too stupid to know that. Could you tell your friends that we’re half socialized already and that with the takeover of the banking, mortgage, auto and now health industry that it’s almost complete? Because it would be nice if people would ACKNOWLEDGE that we’re half to three quarters socialized and on a rocket cart to full socialism. Duh. Also, you’re a bitch.
Recognizing humor FAIL!
Unwarranted verbal abuse present as well.
Agreed, Mark. Anniee, SB was making a joke.
What you wrote there sends it into abusive trolling, not debate, discussion, or any other civilized behavior. Name-calling is infantile and YOU’RE the one being the bitch here, not her.
I’ll buy a round-trip ticket for that rocket cart, bitches.
Me too.
Don’t forget to bring your Little Red Book of Greatest Tourist Attractions!
Her little b*tch comment to me spilled over into this post, as I’d just read it. She decided she’s too good to respond to me but that she can troll my serious comments and take potshots, and I took one at her. Name-calling was as much effort as I felt like making in this case.
I don’t think I’m too good to respond to you Anniee, I just rarely see the point in it. I was unaware you find Monty Python quotes so infuriating, but then you do seem to have a lot of misplaced rage.
MP make Anniee annnnngrrrryyyyyy
DAMN YOU MONTY PYTHON! DAMN YOUUUUUUUUU!
Would you like to go upstairs?
I don’t think you know me well enough to make that assessment.
Anniee, you come across as intelligent and well-read and well-spoken at times (5:15 entry above about James Madison). Then you reply to Suicide Blonde as your alter ego Raving Whacko Nutjob. You obviously are capable of presenting information in a rational manner, why degenerate into the angry, irrational anniee?
You seem to want to persuade people to your point of view, why not keep it at a civil level so people don’t just recoil at everything you say?
I really don’t care; she was acting like a b*tch and I called her on it. That’s pretty much the size of it; no need to blow it up into WWIII now, is there?
Well anniee I didn’t think I was blowing it up into WWIII but perception is reality and I guess that’s your reality. No one else seemed to think suicide blonde was coming across like a b*tch, but again, that’s your reality.
Yes, I know, because THIS wasn’t the b*tch post – it was the last one she made to me that was pure b*tch. They were posted one after the other and showed as such in my email, so after the snitty little multiple choice thing (coming right on the heels as it did, of a very serious post I made in which suicide blonde responded and then I responded seriously, she said, oops didn’t mean to talk to YOU, please ignore) it carried over into this post. And don’t tell me that that is unfair, because it’s been told to me a thousand times that what you do before in previous threads or previous comments on the SAME thread is bound to spill over, so can that one.
@Anniee – you’ve got a very thin skin for someone who so enjoys dishing it out.
Spillover happens, SB. Just the way of boards. Everyone knows that. Two snitty comments to/about me in a row when I was being serious (i.e. not dishing it out) and you’ve gotta figure on a little bit of turnabout. At least I didn’t bother putting any effort into it; anyone can call a name, right?
At any rate I have very little patience for the idiot left, I have acknowledged that pretty openly.
I would just like to point out that in the Still Beating thread, when you claim I was snitty to you, all I had said was that I thought “The Story of Stuff” was pretty good. You responded by calling me stupid. To which I responded that I hadn’t intended to reply to one of your posts, and at this point it should be pretty obvious why. I didn’t attack you, I didn’t call you names, I didn’t even attack your positions, I just said I liked The Story of Stuff.
You attack others and then claim to be the victim. You strike me as someone who enjoys making enemies. Even your use of profanity is repugnant, and I’m a big fan of profanity. In short, you are an offensive, rude, closed-minded, internet version of the schoolyard bully. Your contempt and intolerance of others should earns you the same. Peace out.
Your reaction to the Story of Stuff was not at issue – of course many people like things, especially when they haven’t thought them through or seen debunking of same. It was the fact that when I linked to the debunking of the Story of Stuff you said that you were basically too good to talk to the likes of me, coupled with this thread, where you decided to jump in the pile-on of an actually serious post (which didn’t involve any bullying or schoolyard whatever that you think you’re describing – not that I’ve even been guilty of anything like it of late) that led me to name-call. I’m not sorry – I think you acted like a b*tch and merely got called on it, no more no less. But don’t insult my intelligence by spinning what happened on the other thread or on THIS one – FFS anyone can see it right HERE – are you stupid? Yes, you can count on public opinion to back you up because of prejudice but that doesn’t make it all right. How about you treat me like an adult and maybe I treat you like one – which entails ACTING like one. Stop that bullshit posting like you did on my serious post where the troll (and yes, that was trolling) made the little multiple choice answer and picking one to belittle me and try to make me feel small when I’m not, eh? How about THAT?
I agree, my liking The Story of Stuff was not an issue, or at least it shouldn’t have been, and therefore calling me stupid in response to my mere mention that I liked it was uncalled for. I’m not stupid just because I don’t agree with you, and your out-of-the-gate condescension towards me isn’t going to make me want to rush off to view your YouTube “debunking,” which didn’t provide empirical evidence of anything – and I did watch it. (Here’s a tip: if you couldn’t use it as a source in a research paper, it’s not going to be credible here either.)
Oh, and if I “can count on public opinion” to back me up, maybe the problem is you and not everyone else in the world. But don’t go changing, you’re like the textbook example of delusional right-wing revisionism, it’s almost poetic in a caricature-ish way. Anyway, I’m done feeding your bizarre victim complex. Take it easy, maybe consider anger management classes or take up yoga or something.
Well, now you’re just an outright, bald-faced liar, because I most certainly DID NOT call you ’stupid’ for liking it. I will say you have to be pretty stupid if you accept the completely falsified and falsifiable “facts” about the forests and so forth despite the fact that the information is quite readily available. If you hold up a propaganda piece as a substitute for verifiable facts, you probably are stupid. But I did not call you stupid during that conversation, and here is the link to prove it. Liar.
You can only count on public opinion to back you up here or on other grossly biased websites. You might be surprised to know this, but not every web community is full of left-wing idiots.
You don’t need to use the word “stupid” to call someone stupid. Actually, the implication that you think she’s stupid is better then the implication that she supports dishonesty, which is what I took out of this statement. Either way it was as uncalled for then as your profanity laden meltdown was above. If you really want to know what public opinion is, it’s that you’re an intelligent poster when you want to be but your inability to control your anger and temper tantrums get in the way of you swaying anyone to your viewpoint. The people who agree with you already share your views, which leads me to believe you don’t really want a discussion, you just feel good when you get to call the “other side” names.
No dice, Jane – she LIED flat-out, twice. And you DO need the word “stupid” if in fact you say two or three times that someone “called you stupid”. She said I called her stupid, she was trying to BS her way through this one, and she got called on it, hard. Deal with it.
That comment, right up there, that YOU made implies that she is stupid or dishonest or both. That is the bottom line. By word or implication you still called her stupid and it was completely uncalled for. Just because she liked something you didn’t doesn’t make her less then you. That is your constant, unchanging attitude on these boards. That is why you can not have a reasonable discussion with someone. The minute they disagree with you, you dismiss their worth as a person. It’s in every snarky insult you spew forth. Calling people idiots, fools, morons, assmunch, b*tch, I could go on. When you get called on it you point fingers and say, “Oh yeah, well they did it too!”. You’re a mother. Is this behavior you’d accept in your children? I don’t know about you, but MY mother told me that other people’s bad behavior doesn’t excuse my own. You can’t control what the people here say to you, but you are responsible for your own words and you can’t blame anyone else for them.
Wow, I love reading you guys. You’re both intelligent people, it’s like a psyche class, or listening to smart people debate about philosophy, morals, etc.
Hey look, I complimented both of you at the same time! I feel like less of a dick now
She lied, Jane. No way around that. Whatever you think it implied, she didn’t say I implied she was stupid; she said that I called her stupid. It was dishonest and designed to make it look like I had merely insulted her instead of making a thorough AND cited reply.
Yes, Tyler, less of a dick. But you do mention my name awfully even where I’m not involved and I wish to hell you’d stop doing that. It’s very disturbing.
Anniee, I think I should probably put in here that an insult, even implied, is an insult, and no matter what the rest of your post says, you’ve directly insulted someone.
And I don’t read it as “Anniee called me stupid” when I read SB’s post, I perceive it as “You implied I was stupid and/or unintelligent in some way, therefore you have called me stupid.”
Meh, different strokes.
Do I get points for not actually saying your name the last time I said something stupid?
I’m just about to unsubscribe from this thread, so Jane, you can stop arguing where your friend didn’t even bother to considering she hadn’t a leg to stand on. I didn’t call her stupid when she said I did, though I have since said she probably is, so you can work from there, without the lies, eh?
NO, Tyler, she said twice that I CALLED her stupid and she said it in defense of her dismissive and insulting comments to me. Was I condescending? Yes. Did I cite my sources and explain WHY the film she loved so much was nonsense and propaganda? Yes. I have since concluded that she is probably stupid (since she can’t tell the difference between facts and propaganda) so you can use that. Now watch the Anniee references where I’m not involved, would you? I would definitely prefer you didn’t keep talking about me when my back is turned.
Whoops, I swore by accident. Copied and pasted:
I can guarantee I’ll try. Not necessarily succeed, but hey, trying is good no?
“There is no try. You do, or you do not.”
Ah, f*ck. Yoda-sense caught me again.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
I use that line myself but obviously I won’t be able to now. I want the 10th anniversary DVD that comes in a little bowling ball.
….I initially skimmed past Anniee’s post – there’s only so much bitter right-wing vitriol I can read in an evening… Sounds a little bitchy to me.
Hey a suicide blonde worth her salt should be somewhat bitchy. And the only reason annie uses the word “stupid” about 10,000 times, and throws around her Mensa horseshit, is because SB is so sharp she could slice a tomato by looking at it.
I’d say there’s more to it than that; like the bit where Anniee seems to have forgotten that the World has actually changed in the 230-odd years since the Declaration of Independance.
Or perhaps she would like to honour us with her argument as to why the USA should dismantle its military forces?
bitchypat – If you were paying attention you’d know I haven’t “thrown around” any Mensa horseshit – the fact is that someone has presented themselves as something which sets off BS radar detectors considering some of what he said, and he is accepted uncritically, whereas I made a mention very early on of something which actually IS verifiable and yet have been eaten alive for it. So you see, one of these things is not like the other. But then again you’re incapable of making distinctions.
“like the bit where Anniee seems to have forgotten that the World has actually changed in the 230-odd years since the Declaration of Independance”
Typical liberal fascism – it’s a different world, what did they know? I don’t care what’s changed, our basic need for liberty is the same as it ever was. Our RIGHTS to that liberty have not changed one iota. The MEANS to that liberty – an extremely limited government with a clear division of powers – has not changed one iota. The right to pursue my own agenda and life so long as I directly harm no one else or their property – remains my RIGHT. So I’d love to know what is so different that you think this fascist, oppressive, overbearing, cradle-to-grave suffocating federal massive bureaucracy is needed. Because whether it is or not, my need for my basic human rights trumps every one of any counterclaim that can be made against it. My right to live as I see fit provided I commit no harm. Giving people redress for that harm is the proper sphere of government, NOT living our lives for us cradle to grave as our f*cking nannies. And if you don’t see that, fascist, I don’t care. I’m going to fight for it to. the. death. anyway. And so are a lot of other people.
LINK – it’s long, but it’s well worth it for ANYONE who cares about the difference between liberty and tyranny, for anyone who is the slightest bit CONCERNED when people say the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are “outdated” and “for another time.” The Trial of Hank Rearden.
Well, I can’t argue with that (except for the fascist part. I don’t know if p4t is or not).
Quickly – Liberal fascist is an oxymoron.
And I see we’re still waiting for the argument on why the USA still has a standing army, or why you have public education…
Bottom line, trying to give people who can’t afford to pay market rates for them access to services that weren’t even dreamt of 230 years ago is a laudible ambition, and the only reason for objecting to doing so is greed.
The left is statist and collectivist – i.e. fascist.
“the only reason for objecting to doing so is greed.”
#1 You say that like it’s a bad thing.
#2 You don’t know what anyone’s motives are – what you call greed is usually just a desire for individual liberty and individual rights which are endowed upon us at birth, not allotted to us by an all-powerful government.
#3 It’s none of your business what someone’s motives are – they are their own people and so long as they are not forcing anything on you who the hell do you think you are to force your vision on them.
#4 Those innovations and services get invented and spread by individualism and a free market, not by fiat. All government distortions in these markets lead to shortages and inflations, not greater availability and standards of living. Wise up already.
OH!!! You’re Anniee! I thought it was a horrible reference to Star Wars. I’m not in the habit of paying attention to screen names and I thought people were talking about the actual original post about the hive of scum and villainy. That’s from Star Wars, right? A New Hope? Only no Annie in that one. And also you spelled Annie wrong
And also please don’t be upset by anyones comments. It’s just the internet. I’m sure plenty of people out there agree with you, it’s only the rude ones who usually post. That’s not directed towards anyone specific. Just everyone in general. (And don’t get offended and think you’re the rude one. Just pretend it’s everyone else. Pretend that quietly. To yourself. Without posting about it ><)
Yay Star Wars!!!!
Oh, look, someone new to the site, who thinks Anniee spelled her name wrong and thinks we’re all mean… Read some posts before you post, Claribel. If you want to have a logical discussion and not encourage Anniee to think that only internet commenters will disagree, head to a more recent thread.
anniee451, u know what u need? A good ol’ hot ham sandwich
Heck yeah. And a little waterboarding as well. COLD water. Actually, my minions should be busy with her right now, unveiling The Truth about her evil plans (see Dick Cheney thread). I have no idea how she even managed to get internet access from her cozy little Guantanamo cage. Must be something in her molars.
Oh yeah, and I think she used a different nick in that KingKongAntiGermanRacism thread.
Oh Anniee, you make me feel so dirty.
psh. what you mean to say is government exists to protect wealthy people like me from the poor.
No, you idiot. I was saying I was a certain number in the comments for the second day in a row.
Read previous thread comments to get to know regulars, thanks.
Oh, and good job completely misrepresenting my opinion from a vague reference!
Put on your big girl panties and deal with it, troll!
It sucks when random crazies direct their craziness your way, Tyler, but trolls like to call other people trolls to deflect from their trollness. It’s best to take the higher ground and ignore them. All the regulars know who you are and that you’re not a troll.
Who is this “Tyler” person you speak of?
He’s a troll.
*snickers*
*giggle*
*throws random stick and runs*
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They only say it because I’m a winner.
(On another note, you guys know the soldiers in Halo 3, if you hit them, sometimes say to one another, “Just because he didn’t mean it didn’t mean it didn’t hurt‽” just found that out yesterday.)
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INTERRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOBBBAAAAAAANNNNNNG
I can’t say b*tch, but you can say F*ck off? Double standards, eh? I always thought that line about big girl panties was pretty funny, to tell you the truth. Maybe it was a joke
(And yes, I’ve had it said to me, too. Sometimes rightly sometimes wrongly, but the panties thing is still just kind of funny.)
Can I use that?
Use what? The philosophy?
because the republicans did such a great job too. it NEEDS to day *….den of scum and villainy, unless you goto North Korea, China, Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Half of Africa, the STREETS of america, etc, etc etc.
euh…excuse me?
I don’t think the maker of this is that much of a dumb ass
Obviously the poster has never been in the music business.
Or any in any banks.
Or a car dealership, or a real estate office, or just about any other place that has to deal with the public.
Except that it’s in Washington that the music business is conducting their most wretched business. That is, making all of their other racketeering and extortion legal.
….Or to a government building in Iran, North Korea, pretty much any country in Africa, Russia, Cuba, Bangladesh, Myanmar, most of the -stans, China, the list goes on….
Fail. Try Moskow or Pyongyang
Agreed, fail. As much as our government sucks, there exists far worse contemporary, let alone if you look to the past.
srsly…this isn’t humorous at all…i don’t mean that in the same sense that it’s not funny to make terry schiavo (sp?) jokes, but rather, that the poster’s sense of humor must be srsly lacking. Look, I didn’t vote for Obama (go Ron Paul!), and I’m all for making fun of corrupt politicians, but this is just embarrassing.
Terry Schiavo jokes aren’t funny? Damn…
Too soon?
I guess schiavo hard time laughing at those terri-ble jokes.
I have a friend who said she knew it was getting serious with her boyfriend when they spent three hours creating a Terry Schiavo mii for her wii.
Guys, what’s a “srsly”?
Is it an animal?
srsly=seriously
I know Jane, I was making a txtspeak joke
I do play my fair share of video games you know!
Well, I didn’t think that you didn’t know, but it didn’t seem to go with anything I was saying so I took it as sincere.
Get pwned, n00b!
ARRRRGHHHH
I R LEET HAXXOR WITH HUGE EPEEN I DOESNT STAND FOR DIS GRAWRRR I DRINK SO MANY ENERGY DRINKS.
(Just kidding, I’ve never even had an energy drink, or coffee.)
Ron Paul! You win a gold star. Funniest thing I’ve heard all day.
Concurrence – regardless of your political persuasion, this is a foolishly cynical statement. As much as I detested the Bush administration I would still have been offended if someone had posted this then. There are far worse governments in the world than ours, and some can scarcely even be called goverments – Sudan, Zimbabwe, and Tonga, to name a few.
I think the institution in itself should be the object of concern, the fact that they pulled/singled out Washington should be removed. All governments are a little off if you ask me, but there is a catch. Being democratic we can change the things we do not like. Americans have a greater impact on their government through their control of judges and other judicial positions.
Don’t you mean legislative positions?
You vote in the judicial branch of your government. I was pointing out the difference since I am Canadian and ours is appointed.
I certainly don’t vote for any judges seated in Washington, or in any of the federal circuits. (I’ll admit that I’m fuzzy on judges in my home state above the circuit level.)
So how do your federal judges come about?
There may be a few cases I’m fuzzy on, but I believe they’re all appointed for life by the President, and confirmed by the Senate.
In any case I could argue that your state laws are more powerful than the federal level ones because of what jurisdiction divisions both our governments have made. Giving education to the provincial and state level was a big mistake.
Federal judges are appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate. On the state level, however, states decide how their judges are appointed, either chosen by the governor or voted in by the people.
I hate voting on judges. I don’t research the judges, and the ballot asks me if I want to retain them or not. I figure, sure, why not?
Know any cops? They’ll generally be more than happy to tell you which judges are sleazebags.
That’s a very good suggestion. Where I live, the local newspapers usually do a poll of bar association members and have them rate the judges in various categories: knowledge of the law, coherence of jury instructions, even handedness to defense and prosecutor, etc. It’s not remotely unbiased, but still is interesting in what comments some of the attorneys make about some of the judges.
Sometimes the judges are their own worst enemy. In Tacoma, WA a superior court judge had the courtroom stand and yell a cheer for the Seattle Seahawks just before sentencing a defendant in a manslaughter case. Wow, really professional.
Not really, but that’s a good idea, thanks.
Unless, of course, the cops are sleazebags.
I think that varies from state to state and county to county. I know that in my county every election we have “Should Judge so and so keep their seat” votes with the voter choosing yes or no. How they get there to begin with is a mystery to me.
I think there is an application process consisting of a one word question. Do you want to be a judge of other people? Answer yes or no.
I’m guessing those are either local or state seats, Jane. Federal judges are appointed.
federal judges are chosen from the sitting judges voters elect in almost every instance. they start out at the bottom (local) then move up to circuit (by election), from there, they can be tapped to move into the federal court system or they can move up to the state supreme court
Actually, while somebody with state court experience might be favorably viewed in the application process, at least the Federal Magistrate positions are announced when one comes open and people are invited to send resumes. District Court judges very often move up from the Magistrate positions. The new Federal Magistrate Judge in our district has no previous judicial experience. (Oh, joy….) But you’ve got to start somewhere and hopefully she’s a fast learner.
So we should ignore the problems with our own government just because “It could be worse”?
It turns out there’s a system for addressing grievances you may have with our government. It starts with getting involved at the local level with the party of your choice, continues through donating time and money to the candidates you like, and also includes voting. As the famous quote says “Democracy is a horrible, inefficient system of government; the best that can be said for it is that it’s a hundred times better than any other Man has come up with.”
Maybe you didn’t read the comment I was responding to, but yours is the point I was kinda getting at. I don’t see why people tend to ignore the problems with their government under the guise of “It could be worse.” If you choose not to get involved using said system, you invariably make it worse anyway.
Maybe he meant: ‘… in the USA.’ But even then, what about Wall Street? Hollywood? Silicon Valley? Cupertino?
You’re right. It’s just not fair to the government.
Enron? AIG? Yeah, not fair to the govt.
Moscow? Hell, even Putin is telling Obama that his socialist ideas are an epic fail in the making.
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism}
Just read. Learn what socialism is. Criticize Obama all you want, but quit misusing the word “socialism”, okay?
Thank you from the very bottom of my heart!!!
What’s worse is you have every idiot on the left saying he’s actually in favor of business and corporations because he’s “bailing them out” as opposed to what is ACTUALLY happening, which is that he’s having government TAKE THEM OVER. Which is a really really important distinction. Next time someone tells you you don’t know what socialism is or why Obama isn’t one, you might point this out – link.
When the government runs the education, the recreation (parks, etc), the banking industry, the mortgage industry, the auto industry, and half or more of the health care industry (with more to come) – DUH, it’s socialism. People are so stupid nowadays they say that’s corporatism. It’s horrifying and frightening what people DON’T know now in this country, but with an active campaign of Publik De-education, it’s hardly surprising, is it?
EVERYONE IS WRONG EXCEPT MEEEEE OMG YOU’RE ALL SO UNEDDDUUCATTEEEDDDD EEEEEEEPPPP.
Really Anniee, where did you become such a scholar to cite such highly regarded sources such as a site with the name blog in it?
Pissing in the wind, Tyler. She comes and goes with good info, and then tends to go all bi-polar on us when she’s challenged or otherwise disagreed with in the slightest. I thnk everyone has had this discussion with her at one point or another, and it hasn’t done any good. Just let her be Anniee and do her thing, ignore her trolling, and respond to the good stuff. Maybe positive reinforcement will work.
Hey froo, look at the end of the first comment. Who’s the troll there?
Oooh, and go to Celebrity LOLs and look at Steve Buscemi on the home page.
Is it just me, or is that how you envision Fester?
You and I would be friends if just once, ONCE you’d ever cared to notice or acknowledge WHAT I’m responding to, ever. But since you steadfastly, staunchly refuse to (starting with the obvious hate-spewing of Fister’s constant abuse) that leaves us where we are.
I salute you Anniee. One of the only sane posters in this so far.
Thank you, chardrak. Don’t I know it. If you stick around maybe we can make it two. And dhoti makes three
OMG. We have our own Triumvirate of Evil.
That made me laugh…
The father-knows-best, the son-of-a-bitch, and the holy terror.
Is Chardrak the first or second? I can’t tell, but I do know you’re referencing Anniee as the third.
Well I was going to go with:
Dick, W., and Donald.
Dhoti’s been pretty decent lately. Making his point on the strength of his arguments and not throwing about insults.
Agreed. I’ve only had one conversation in him, in which my first post had “jackass” thrown directly at him, but I like ‘im.
I’ve been mad enough to cuss him out and we’ve gotten into some pretty ridiculous arguments before. In fairness to him though, when he first came on Uncle Fester targeted him pretty heavily. It’s easy to take that kind of tone in response when that’s the treatment you get initially. After awhile, though, you have to start becoming responsible for your own actions and decide what it is you’re coming here for. If you are truly interested in politics and humor and want to hear other viewpoints then you tone some of that stuff down. If, however, you see every engagement as a “fight” to be won or lost your approach is going to be different.
-Coughs quietly and looks at the POUTING thread-
Do you know anyone like that, Janie?
*cough* Tyler sometimes you’re really a dick.
I agree, a giant dick, but you DO win the award for most hardcore, followed-through upon arguing
Dhoti & Anniee have both actually settled down a bit, which I think probably is easily attributed to Fester’s recent absence. That being said, I don’t think the day will ever come where we’ll see eye to eye with them on a lot of things. LOL
I will admit it was a combination of factors – Fister’s absence and Seth’s diplomacy which have led to it.
Whether we will ever see eye to eye, who knows – here is a funny video to entertain you in the meantime. Link
The jedi were right. There’s the master and the apprentice. No more. No less.
Power corrupts… it doesn’t matter where it is… and I would like to think that we are on a better track now… I would also suggest that you go experience the world a little more… then you will really know what it’s like… they may be in suits, but they are better suits than the white one’s with the pointy top…
Ok so blatant sarcasm imminent.
When I plug in a light, does its power corrupt it?
Actually, yes it does. Notice your light bulb never burns out when it’s off?
Does that mean it just fades away?
That was actually really funny. That’s twice you’ve made me laugh out loud. Not bad.
I think that varies from state to state and county to county. I know that in my county every election we have “Should Judge so and so keep their seat” votes with the voter choosing yes or no. How they get there to begin with is a mystery to me.
Fvck, nesting fail. How the hell did this get here?
Nah, I think it makes perfect sense Jane.
that’s BS, DC is a fine city, I live here
Well it depends on where in DC there yes the biggest hive of scum and villiany. However where all the museums are (which ironically are in the same area) not so much. Outside the area same thing not as corrupt.
i’m just wondering what the quote is from! I know I’ve heard it before!
Star Wars, Episode IV. Obi Wan says it when they walk into the Mos Eisley cantina.
Yes, and much to all our surprise, scum and villainy is staffed primarily with muppets.
*snerk*
*wipes diet Dr Pepper off screen*
The “staffed primarily with muppets” tickled me.
*hands froofrou a doll*
Now, show us on this doll where the muppet tickled you…
*is too traumatized to answer*
Did they look like this, froo??? {link}
*is more traumatized*
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On a related note, I’m waiting for one of those guys to laugh so hard he falls off the balcony.
my personal favorite is in muppet treasure island when they’re the figureheads on the front of the ship.
Waldorf and Statler looked like my grandfathers. For reals. Waldorf looked like my mother’s father and Statler looked like my father’s father. I have a real soft (ha!) spot for these two geezers.
Muppet Treasure Island is Teh Awsum anyway! *walks away singing “Cabin Fever”*
Were? were? What happened to them?
They died. Very sad. I suppose I meant were as in reference to when I first saw the movie.
Ya, I recognized that I was just playing on your tenseness. Segway(segue) awayyyyyy!
An-i-mal! An-i-mal!
An-y-mal intent was not purposeful.
Do you have a ker-mit for your Segway?
No – that’s why I have to grouch down when I ride it.
It goes pretty fast, surprisingly. Just like that, and she’s gon-zo.
Oh come on, Eric. It may go fast, but it’s no Range Grover.
It’s as slow as riding a person –
but then again I kind of miss piggy back riding.
As usual, pittypat, you’ve Ernied your keep here. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got something to watch on the Telly.
Let me guess: it’s the Ossociation for Segway Cultist Auto Racing (OSCAR)?
I wouldn’t Count on it.
Bert, Bert, bad balance could send you flying like Big Bird.
I think I may be in love.
Is this really necessary?
Short answer: No. Long answer: Noooooooo.
…Was that a Zero Punctuation reference??
No, because I don’t know what that is, but we can pretend it is, if you’d like.
Come on! Try a poster of Tiananmen Square or Beijing….
Yeah, it is. Because someone obviously has penis envy when it comes to world governments. Send the creator of this to Cuba, Iran, China, anyplace in Africa, Peru, etc etc etc for a year and see how much they love the USA when they come back.
Id leggo my ego if I were you.
And see the eros of your ways …
Ok, but I’ll be Bachhus..
Thanatos to your health!
I’d Hades to hear that you were Ceres-iously ill!
I’ve visited China (not for a whole year, admittedly) and I lived in Africa for a year and a half. I have also lived in a not-listed developing country for 2 years. I strongly dislike the USA. My experiences overseas have made me like America even less.
Have *you* lived in any of those places for a year, Scott? If so, I’m quite surprised that doing so has actually made you like America more! Most travelers I have met share a common disdain for the country.
How much time have you spent in the US? What parts? What part of Africa were you living in? Why were you there? What were your resources?
It’s one thing to visit/live in a foreign country, it’s another thing to be subject to their government on a permanent ongoing basis with no option of relocating. Despite all its numerous flaws, from a governmental perspective I’d still choose the United States than Africa or China.
Well of course SB, but everyone here is biased.
PK is, I believe, firewalled in China.
So you’d miss us too much, eh‽
I live in Australia and I would take the government in the U.S. over here any day. But, there are other areas where I think it’s better here. Far and away is the level of violence. It’s much lower here than in the U.S.
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My guess is D must have lived in areas that were metropolitan as I can’t imagine living in Africa and claiming the goverment is better than the U.S.
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Otherwise, SB, I agree. Visiting is not the same as living someplace. Also, as you said, was D subjected to the governement or did D enjoy the protection of the U.S. government? While I’m still a U.S. citizen, I don’t know how much weight that would carry if I get in a jam since I’m a legal resident.
Yeah exactly Eds. So, why do you think violence is so prevalent in America vs. places like Australia or Canada? What are the gun laws like in Australia?
From Wiki: 5.2% of Australian adults own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting and target shooting.
Before someone can buy a firearm, he or she must obtain a Permit To Acquire. The first permit has a mandatory 28 day delay before it is first issued.
All in all, extremely restricted. I lived there most of my life and never saw one that wasn’t in a police officer’s holster.
There’s nothing out there but scorpions, snakes, and Aborigines. Who are they going to be violent with?
There are people that have had their a$$es handed to them by kangaroos for one. Mostly it’s the ranchers that have them to control to control the kangaroo population. They’re like the jackrabbits in the States.
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@SB: Don’t get me wrong, there are people that get shot, but it really isn’t a daily occurance. When you do hear about it, it’s on the national news.
Yeah I get you…have you ever seen Bowling for Columbine? I know, I know, it’s Michael Moore, but one of the interesting points he brought up was that Canada has gun laws that are pretty similar to the states, and yet they don’t shoot the hell out of each other any chance they get. I’m just curious as to what factors or cultural phenomena cause they tremendous amount of violence (particularly gun violence) we see here.
I did see it, and while I would never recommend it in the top 10, it probably is worth seeing at least once. Some co-workers were asking if you really can buy a gun at Wal-Mart and couldn’t believe it when I said with ammo. One thing to consider is I doubt Canada has the problem with gangs like they do in the States. If you could take them out of the equation, my guess you would see the violence would be on a par with most other countries. I’ll admit I’m not a fan of gun control, but since I’ve never owned one (that I purchased) I don’t really miss not having one. I know some would go through withdrawls if they couldn’t touch their favorite .45 but for me it’s not a requirement. What it comes down to is easy access to guns. And not just your typical rifle or hand gun, but a plethora of guns that I can’t see any justification in owning.
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As an aside, when I live in New Mexico they had an open gun law. Basically it meant if you were registered to carry, you could walk around with a Glock strapped on your hip. The only place you couldn’t carry was into banks and bars. I still don’t understand why someone needs to walk around acting like they’re Wyatt Earp or something.
Yeah, gang violence could definitely account for a lot of it. The school shootings are not common anywhere but here as far as I know, and those are what really make me question what’s happening with guns here. The one connection Moore made was that our media/news is a lot more alarmist and violence-focused than in Canada…would you say the same thing about Australia?
I agree, I have no idea why people need to carry guns around. I know a guy who keeps one on him at all times unless he’s in the shower (not kidding). And he lives in a low crime area of the midwest. I don’t get it, I’ve been held up and I grew up in LA and I’ve never wanted to own a gun.
No, we definitely are not focused on guns. The only time you even hear about it is when someone get’s shot. Otherwise, people just don’t think about it. There have been a couple of shootings recently, but those were a result of underworld violence.
It certainly makes people think twice about screwing with you if you’re packing open heat. I prefer open carry laws for that reason, and I think you SHOULD be able to carry them anywhere, banks included. I guarantee that if everyone has a gun on their hip, banks would get robbed less.
Concealed carry FTW!!!!
Heck no! Give me open carry or give me death!
Concealed carry = “open” carry here… you can pack it on your hip with a concealed weapons permit…
…on your hip, and then stow it in your glove box, without getting arrested, I meant to finish…
In Texas, the concealed carry law is such that you can’t even “print” if you’re carrying a gun, meaning that the outline can’t even show. I’ve heard tell that we’re on the way to an open carry, but considering the Administration’s rather blatant stance on gun control, I’ll count myself lucky if I actually get to use my guns in a non-hunting environ in the future.
One comment on the effectiveness of current US gun control laws and enforcement. The vast majority guns in found or captured by police in Mexico were legally purchased in the USA. Said guns are being used by those drug gangs currently causing havoc down there. Link to USA-today article.
I think Suicide Blonde had a really good point earlier, that America seems to have a huge number of gangs and gang-related violence. I wonder if it would be different as far as gun violence is concerned if we were able to eradicate the gangs?
Ok, well my experience with people carrying a gun openly on their hip intimidated the hell out of me. Is it really that necessary? Honestly, I have been on God’s green earth for well over half a century and you know what? I have never been in a position where it was necessary to defend myself with a gun. And it’s not like I have lived in some backwater podunk of a place, but within the bounderies of Los Angeles. Sorry froo, I don’t get it. I’m not in favor of limiting gun ownership, but I just don’t see the justification in being able to carry one on your hip.
I agree Eds. Recently a bunch of gun activists paraded around San Diego with their guns out in the open, unloaded, as a protest – they’re upset they aren’t allowed to have an unconcealed weapon that isn’t loaded. They went in groups to public areas like malls and beaches. They didn’t seem to mind they were scaring little children, and in fact, when parents complained about it, they said that if there were open carry laws the kids would get used to it.
In my opinion, less guns = less shooting.
It really depends on your perspective, I guess. You’re right that fewer guns = fewer shootings, but the problem is that the guns end up in the wrong hands, and the good people get shot by the bad people. With our culture being what it is, disarmament is just asking for it.
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Now the idiots protesting should have known better, that was just stupid. I much prefer the protest I saw in Washington D.C. where there was a counter protest to the gun law activists. The Pro-Taking-Your-Guns-Away people were doing a silent protest by laying down on the lawn. The Pro-More-Guns-Than-You-Can-Possibly-Shoot people had signs that read “Here lie those who were unarmed when the bad guys came.” Now THAT proves a point
ROFLMAO at that ^^!
Talk about capitalizing on your enemy’s weaknesses…
@ Froo – but the idea that only bad guys shoot people is just not true…domestic shooters are usually not considered to be “bad people” until they shoot a family member, or walk into a building and talk a bunch of people out. People lose it, and when they do, it’s usually not good if there are guns around.
But total disarmament on the scale of England is not the answer. There are dumbasses everywhere, and if they dont’ have a gun, they will be dumbasses with a car. I fully support the need for schooling about guns, making people license their guns no matter what the purpose of the gun, and making sure people respect them. I DO NOT support taking guns away from everyone because “someone might get hurt”. (that’s not your quote, I’m just using an argument I’ve heard from other anti-gun people)
Well yeah Froo, but we already have dumbasses with cars. Total disarmament would be fine with me, and after all, it’s not like the UK has melted down into chaos because their citizens aren’t allowed guns. And really, we’re not at the point were “someone might get hurt” we’re at the point where children are shooting other children. Just like you can’t force people to be responsible, once the gun is in their hand it’s up to them what they choose to do with it.
But in a way, you’re making my point. Guns are not the problem, it’s the people behind them. Guns are no more dangerous than the stick in the yard before your mother grabs it. There should be accountability for the parent who makes the stupid mistake of leaving a gun where a kid can get to it. There should be accountability for the teenager who steals the gun from someone to shoot up a school. There should be severe penalties for the MISUSE of a gun. But taking away a gun from a law-abiding citizen just because it could be a problem in the future is not the way to deal with this.
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Also, there should be mandatory classes and registration (and fingerprinting) to even own a gun, and severe penalties if you fail to report a stolen gun. Just like if someone stole your car and used it to commit a crime.
Froo, guns are far more dangerous than a stick in the yard, I’m sure you’ll agree. And since we can’t get rid of all the dumbasses, I think getting rid of the guns would be the next best thing.
Also, with regard to accountability, what difference does that make to the parent of a child who was murdered at school? Or to a woman who was shot by her boyfriend? Sending the shooter to prison doesn’t save lives.
I agree that if you are going to allow people to have guns, there should be mandatory training and registration, as well as fingerprinting, and the fact that these systems are not already in place speaks to the size of the problem.
Anyhoo, I gotta go, have a nice evening, and don’t shoot anyone, not even bank robbers!
From my understanding, the big difference between a butthead having a gun, or not, is that the butthead without a gun has to get a LOT closer in order to kill someone. And fewer people have the gonads to kill someone face-to-face.
Also a depressed person with a gun is more likely to successfully commit suicide than one who does not have a gun. The one without a gun is more likely to live long enough to seek mental health care.
OF course the great equalizer is alcohol, converting your average idiot into the full-out butthead…
My problem with tighter gun laws, while I support them, is that, to the suicidal kid who goes into school with two guns in each pocket, those punishments WON’T matter. I’ve had severe clinical depression, and let me say that at least from my experience with it is that if a child feels so dejected or depressed as to walk into school with a weapon and intent to fire, or to the guy on the porch who knows that even if he shoots someone for “trespassing” or some sociopathic reason, he won’t get caught, is that they don’t CARE about the consequences. Many depressed kids can put on a happy face when they need it, (during the training/identification/registration courses they’d have to go through) and their line of thought is “It won’t matter because I’ll be dead anyway, or my life doesn’t matter/whatever other depressing bullcrap they may be feeling due to various reasons. So when it comes to situations like Columbine, I don’t think that the sad, rejected teenager who feels their life would be worth nothing would really CARE about afterwards- that’s the problem about tightening our belts and making punishments more severe, IMHO.
I believe the kids at Columbine were found (recently) to not be depressed at all, but rather were sociopathic killers (at least the one was) with pre-meditation in mind. I’ll have to go back and get the research on the article.
Froo, not my point but that would be super interesting- what I’m trying to say is, that to those kids, no matter how much time they would have served, the consequences didn’t MATTER enough to stop themselves. Let’s say you’re conspiracy to/commit nine murders. I’m going to assume you’ll, at the very least, be in a jail cell for the rest of your life. If the thought of that punishment doesn’t stop you, what will? And Columbine was just an example; the point I’m trying to make is that to a kid with problems, who isn’t understood or feels nothing for anyone else, those laws don’t matter. :/
Depressing topic much?
I agree with you, but you’re talking about a VERY small number of people who do those things. The vast majority of gun owners are not criminals, and have no intention of killing anyone, laws or not.
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As far as the kids who don’t care enough about the consequences, I say suicide by cop before they can shoot a fellow classmate. But, i’m a bloodthirsty Conservo-bot, so what do I know?
I completely agree, Froo- most gun owners are completely normal, functional law-abiding people, but that small number still stains the entire group, like PETA almost always stains animal rights activists’ names everywhere. Don’t take that example too seriously btw, I know PETA isn’t in danger of having their opinions taken away, but they don’t cause violence and harm on the same scale guns do. Frankly, I don’t know what we CAN do about the situation, because I don’t think we should or can fully disarm (I mean, America is like a giant teenager- look at the Prohibition
), but the actual weapons DO need to be kept out of the hands of those who would do harm, and there’s no accurate way to judge that. I hope, eventually, that guns aren’t seen as such a “cool” thing as they are today by too many people, that unnecessary violence will not be committed by humanity, and people will have real, genuine empathy and understanding for others and think about more than just themselves, but I understand that not every human being will realistically EVER be this way, and that in my lifetime people probably won’t change in a huge way. However, guns being popular, along with popularized or approved of, or even “deserved” violence are utterly heinous to me. I think we need a serious cultural reverse on this one, and for us to understand that it’s not okay to kill or injure someone, under 99.99% of circumstances, even with the way guns and violence have been, to a degree, popularized and idolized. Not for well… Nearly anything.
The attitude in the second part of your statement scares me. I’d be more worried about getting shot in a bank lobby by some wannabe vigilante with delusions of grandeur than by an actual bad guy.
People who are licensed to carry and have to take the required classes for such a license (and it should take more hours to get one) are not dumbass vigilantes with delusions of grandeur. There may be one or two here and there, but the greater part of those who go through the trouble have grown up with guns and respect them.
My idea of a trained non-dumbass would be someone who understands that a spontaneous, coordinated attack on bank robbers by civilians is probably not a good idea, and who would, before being directly threatened, give some thought to what the reaction might be before opening fire.
It seems like a contradiction to claim that a lobby full of responsible gun-carrying customers is going to make the bank safer, if they’re truly only carrying for self-defense.
I’m looking at this from the POV of the bank robbers. If you see a big ol’ cowboy in front of you with a .45 strapped to his hip, a woman in front of him with her .9mm under her arm, and several other people in line at various points in the bank who you aren’t sure have guns or not because of the various states of concealment, don’t you think you’d rethink your job status as a bank robber?
I agree, I would be very nervous any place where a bunch of civilians were carrying guns, regardless of their training.
As I said, I’m not in favor of limiting gun ownership, but I am against being able to carry one displayed on your hip. It’s just like the hunter’s who have to drive around with their easy rider rifle rack loaded up with 4 or 5 rifles. Sure, they aren’t loaded (hopefully) but what’s the point? It’s either to show they are a bad-ass or they want to intimidate – take your pick. And for that matter, I’m sure you’re aware of poachers that carry said guns in their rack dropping a dear, bear, or other animal when they see them? There are laws regarding hunting as well, should we take those off the books?
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As for being able to carry them anywhere, are you serious? I think the LAST place you want a a gun is in a bar!
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Again, I don’t just disagree, froo, but vehemently so. You want a gun, not a problem for me. You want a gun on your hip, now we have an issue. What is to stop someone from overpowering you, taking the gun off you, and making some nice holes in you? Aside from the gun as a defense, do you have any other skills such as martial arts to back you up? Would you be able to defend yourself if you are relieved of your weapon?
If the bank robber isn’t directly threatening any of the customers, the only way their guns would get turned on him is if they decided to defend the bank, not themselves.
Making them out to be “cowboys” and using the “rethink your job status” colloquialism just reinforce the fantasy defender mindset.
“Cowboy” was a descriptive term based on where I’m from. Sorry.
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You guys must have been raised differently than I was, and in different areas, because my experience with guns and those who use them are not the “gun-wielding vigilantes” that you’re describing. Everyone I know and know of respects guns and what they are capable of, and are very careful about what happens to the guns. It’s no more a threat than a fishing pole, and in many ways more of a tool than a screwdriver. To me, penalizing an entire nation because of the screw-ups of a few (statistically speaking) people is just silly.
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But then, I don’t make the laws, so when that day comes, I’ll just go ahead and cling to my Bible and my gun in my underground bunker
How about this idea, froo? Everyone gets gun training, but you can’t have a handgun, or a long gun which holds more than one shot, until you are over the age of 25. That would lower the young-and-stupid quotient quite a bit!
It’s totally unfair to penalize the law abiding pre-teens and teens who are presented with guns as gifts and have a tradition of hunting to provide for their familes.
There are more of them than you know.
I’d agree with you except that I’d lower it to 21, LOL. And I think that there should be parental exceptions in there like there are with alcohol. In other words, if you’re with a parent or legal guardian (who is licensed), then you get to have a gun too.
And what is your definition of a “long gun”? Shotguns and rifles have extremely different uses, and would need different ammo capacities.
Hunting with the relatives or honorary uncle seems a reasonable exception to me! But ’solo teen’ often has his/her pack of friends with–which often brings stupidity…
I used ‘long gun’ meaning shotgun Or rifle. But not AK-47, OK?
Soooo… you can go shoot holes in people for your country, but can’t legally shoot a gun while you’re on leave?
I don’t agree with the “one-shot” rule, because it’s hard to duck hunt with only the three loads you’re allowed now, LOL. I do agree about the AK-47, and I’ve long said that gun nut as I am, I don’t see a need to have one outside of a collection.
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Let me go on record (again) as saying that I think the gun lock or making people keep their ammo and guns separate is stupid and dangerous.
Froo, although I’m on record as supporting trained people carrying legally, I have to point out, as somebody who has represented bank robbers, that you are vastly overestimating the intelligence of the average bank robber. For one thing, no criminal in their right mind robs banks anymore. It’s pretty much 100% crackheads and idiot gangbangers.
Why not? You can’t drink on leave!
(BTW, I would like a more European attitude and law system regarding alcohol)
I want a military exception for all kinds of things. If you are old enough to die for your country, you are old enough to drink and do other stupid things as well, as long as you have a valid military ID.
I’m using bank robber as an obvious example. Personally, I think anyone who commits a crime is a little brain dead
But, I defer to your legal expertise!
Here, hold my beer and military ID.
…and watch this….
@Diss. We’ve had an outbreak of bank robberies in Mass. this past year, including my not-so-large home town. First time I’ve heard of it since I moved to this state in the ’80s. And there have been a bunch. Link to Massachusetts Most Wanted list…
@froo: No, I wasn’t raised differently. My dad, uncle, grandfather, and other members of my extended family were all hunters. I was taught at an early age respect for weapons, but never felt the desire to hunt (although I did go for the camping part of it). Aside from that, if you were raised in say New York, your perspective would be completely different. Also, I support the idea of people being able to hunt. I don’t support the idea of carrying a gun to protect yourself. No matter how well trained you may be in the use of your gun, there’s going to be someone that will have the element of surprise, thus negating your training.
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As for the line of people lined up in a bank all carrying a handgun, don’t you suppose the bank robber might not consider this before going in and load himself up with a MAC-10?
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Lastly,
This actually scares me a bit. I’ve been there (unless you call combat hunting) and trust me, it’s lucky I didn’t get killed. This is not something to wish for.
OMG WTF happened to Suspect 5475?
YIKES!
Non-hunting environs such as target practice, Eds. I’m not going around flashing my gun trying to start a fight
Non-hunting environs as in places you don’t normally use a rifle or shotgun. I also want the freedom to carry a handgun along with me on my hunts, as I do now. Sometimes it’s a hell of a lot easier to get a pistol out of a holster when you see a cougar stalking you (happened last year to hubby) than to take aim with a hunting rifle, especially one that is meant to be braced on something to aim.
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I respect that you’ve been there, and I can’t even imagine! I hope I never have to deal with that. But coming from my limited experience, the statistics, and what I can see around me and through the news, disarmament isn’t the answer. To me. And it probably never will be.
Oh, yeah, we get plenty of bank robberies here, too; just in my limited experience they tend to be committed by those who are too stupid to figure out the drawbacks. Jeez, if I was going to be a robber I’d hit a drycleaner or a parking garage (actually…that might be a GOOD target!) or something before I’d hit a bank.
Starting with the fact that it’s federal, rather than state time, with stiff penalties; the armed guards, the dye packs, the security cameras….it just doesn’t tend to go well at all.
Heading out to buy pink tulle….
Ok, I’m glad you clarified that. I was starting to get worried! Carrying a handgun while hunting wouldn’t cause me any problem. After all, you’re already out there with a rifle, so under those circumstances it would make sense. Also, I hope I wasn’t implying I’m in favor of disarmament. I’m not, never have been, and fully support the right to have a gun. But, I think along with ownership comes responsibility, and yes, maybe even some limitations. Do we really need assault weapons out in society? Woudn’t it scare the bejeezus out of you if your knew your neighbor was stockpiling AK-47’s?
@diss: agreed, there are to many negatives associated with bank robbery. Back in the days of Dillinger you could probably get away with it. But with the sophistication prevelant in the banks today, it would be sheer stupidity (yet people try anyway.)
Eddie, I know it’s rather idiotic that I’m going to say this but I’m going to put it out there anyway- I very strongly agree on the assault rifle issue. Here’s the idiotic bit though, sorry once again, but I don’t have any firearms combat experience so (hopefully) it’s the closest I’ve been/ever will get: Video games involving war. In them, I can’t understand why if you have friendly fire on they feel justified in using a weapon with a high fire rate, instead of a semi-automatic that allows you to fire quickly but control the shots. Why does anyone in a country that isn’t at war or in extreme turmoil need an automatic weapon? It just seems to me like you’re asking for a large death toll, possible friendly fire environment, and that you’re aiming for maximum damage on potentially friendly targets. The AK-47’s would scare the shit out of me, because I would want to know why my neighbor can’t control their trigger finger enough to be stockpiling a semi-automatic only G3 instead. If you’re a paranoid enough nut to be preparing for a war with the apocalyptic zombies, whatever, fine by me as long as you keep yourself under control and don’t go shooting up random crap because you’re nuts. But if you’re stockpiling weapons to take out masses, then I’m worried. Because I don’t live in a war zone, I don’t see citizens walking in formations that you would want to “mow down” like you’re Rambo, and I don’t think that here is somewhere where, if something happens to cause gun violence to erupt, automatic weapons should be acceptable. You should have to think and aim each and every shot, so you can’t go in and “take out as many as you can.”
Sorry it took me so long to write this.
To answer your questions: 3 years in the US – various locations along the west coast. South Africa. Because it’s a place I wanted to experience. Resources? I’m sorry – you’d have to be more specific.
I must clarify – I wasn’t being government specific. I don’t like the US government, but I don’t like governments in general. Of the places I have lived, Canada probably has my favorite government. Africa’s various governmental systems are certainly not better that America’s. That doesn’t make America’s “good”, only comparatively better. Your health care and education systems are pretty terrible for a country with so much power and presence. Immigration needs an overhaul, and military/defense attitudes and systems are worrisome at best.
As I said; I am not a big fan of America as a country, and the vast majority of travelers I have met are not either. That is not a government-specific judgment, though. But, the government are your leaders and makers of critical decisions in all facets of society, so if all the government departments were doing good, honest and smart work then wouldn’t America’s role as a shining star of democracy, freedom and fairness be more of a reality, rather than just self-perception?
D, I wasn’t defending the US government, as much as pointing out that other governments would be much worse to live under, i.e., America has it’s faults but my neighbors aren’t going to machete me in the night because of government-sponsored radio hate messages.
I understand now that you weren’t being government specific; that was where my point about resources came in. For instance, visiting China I would imagine would be quite nice, while worrying that something you post in an internet chat room might get you arrested would be not so nice. Comparatively better, as you said. I myself am not very well travelled, but I hope to see some more of the world soon.
We have had some crappy leaders, no doubt, and certainly it’s a naive soul who believes that our government, or most others, do only good, honest and smart work. With regard to the self-perception of Americans, all I can say is that ideology is a powerful thing…that said, not everyone walks around thinking America is the greatest land on earth. And also that there are 300 million of us, with 34 million being foreign-born as of 2003, so it must be better than some other places
I concur. In the strongest sense of the word. Actually, I’d thoroughly enjoy being a spectator to that.
The fact that we’re not the worst government in the world doesn’t mean they’d love the USA when they came back.
Just because other governments do worse doesn’t mean our problems are fine.
+10 internets for the poster for the awesome Star Wars reference.
I’m not sure Washington is as bad as Mos Isely space port…but it has to be pretty close.
4chan says hi.
Oh yes you can.. Kremlin!
You’ll *easily* find a more wretched hive. Plenty of corrupt governments on every continent don’t even make a pretend not to be completely self serving.
HAAHAHAHHAAAHAA *inhales* HAHAHAAHHAHHA!
Oh, wait. Wrong LOL.
silly girl
you made me laugh though, cheers!
That’s freakin’ hilarious!
and true since the scumbag quotient has gone up in recent months.
I dunno… we have yet to see another Ted Haggard or Michael Brown so far.
Not that we WON’T, just that we haven’t yet.
This person has a serious persecution complex. Just sayin’.
Ah but it’s well established that behind every paranoid fantasy there’s a kernel of truth.
STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!!!!
STOP YELLING AT ME FIRST!!!
STOP ABUSING EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!!!!11!!!11!!ELEVENTY!156!!!
HELP ERIC I CAN’T!!!
YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE, ERIC-WAN!
THESE ARE NOT THE PUNCTUATION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR!!!!!!!!!!
BRING BACK THE INTERROBANG‽‽‽‽‽
Oooh! What did you do to make one appear?
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Link to the group right there, copy and paste or go on Wingdings 2 and type shift+6
Ack!!! Technology!!! Thank you. I may just use the copy and paste option
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…And yes, major sock fail by me. (I wanted to write an obnoxious first post a few lols back…)
You might be able to find a more wretched and corrupt place in the world, but that does not excuse the corruption, villainy, and scum that does live there, (politicians anyway).
It’s certainly the most wretched hive of scum and villainy you’ll ever find within the United States. Including the worst ghettos in any of our cities. At least the gangsters in the ghetto don’t ask you to thank them for robbing you.
Our government doesn’t operate for evil and it doesn’t operate for our good. It operates for sustain it’s own existence. We need it and it needs us.
to sustain*
That’s not the only mistake in your statement…
*snort*
Please share your almighty wisdom. With a valid argument this time…
He doesn’t even need to, with an argument that week.
Weak* sorry. It’s 3:15 in the morning here.
Hey, those Iranians protesting in the streets would LOVE to have a government more like ours. People are flawed, so no government ever will be perfect, but for all its problems, D.C. is far from the slimiest place on the planet (would you rather live with Kim Jung Ill? Or in any African capital?)
Nice job posting this right after the security guard at the Holocaust Museum in D.C. lost his life to a psychopath.
So wait you think that just because humans are not perfect it is acceptable for a government to not be truthful? So long as they are not the worst? 5 people speeding, one goes 110, another 112, another 160 another 104 and the last 101. This is in km/h. So we are to accept the 101, 112, 110, and 104 all because they are not as bad as the one going 160?
While we still have much to improve, I’m happy to live in a country where I won’t find myself on the wrong end of a government-sponsored, machete-wielding thug.
Besides, there’s only so much reform energy to go around — Amdahl’s Law has to come into play at some point.
Ya I just dislike arguments based on the fact that others are worse than us. I say first acknowledge that there is some validity to what is being said. Then secondly state it could always be worse and list place or examples.
I think the OP did that pretty well — he/she acknowledged that government in general is always going to have problems. And saying that “D.C. is far from the slimiest place on the planet” is, both pleasantly and sadly, true.
If s/he did I don’t think I responded there. Just one thing though we must consider. Are humans naturally and inherently evil.
No. But we do seem to naturally look out for ourselves. That’s not necessarily evil. It CAN be, but not necessarily. The politicians in Washington look out for themselves first, and the people they represent second. It’s not surprising in the least. The people get the boost when those two priorities coincide.
Washington D.C. – Where you’re just as likely to get robbed on Capitol Hill as you are in the projects.
I’ve never been robbed in the projects, but I get robbed every April 15th…….
The Arizona state legislature is a much better example anyway
Dad?
Geez, one black guy moves in and you Americans are all like “there goes the neighbourhood”.
I hope you’re being sarcastic. A black person in Washington D.C. is hardly a new development. D.C. is over 60% black.
It was a joke about a black guy joining the govt., not a black guy in DC.
You guys do realize this is the Capitol building, and not the White House, right?
You can only be president for 8 years, max. You can be in the House or Senate for life. That’s when the corruption really sets in.
No, corruption sets in at other locations, also, like in our Town Hall, where the selectmen grant contracts to their buddies, and they short basic services so that storm drains start mixing with sewage pipe contents…
Ick. Really?
Yup. Major backward flow into some houses under extreme rain conditions…in a pretty ‘high rent’ district, too. But there is AMAZING grooming on the town playing fields, done by the company of a selectman. Still going on. Grr.
The backward sewage flow was eventually fixed courtesy of one afflicted resident begging our state senator to please find funds and some leftover pipe. The sewage/storm drain crossover portion of the problem was brought to not being ignored due to fecal coloform measurements in the river receiving our street run-off. NOW the town fathers can’t ignore it! Sigh.
Read the non-sports part of your local ‘fishwrapper’ newspaper…amazing what you can learn in the edges!
Our local news has their little whistleblower segment “You Paid For It” where they dig up all the waste, corrupt spending, incompetence and other slimy stuff the local governments do. It’s amazing what they keep finding. This actually reminded me of a project a town did with some drain pipes where they took a wide storm drain stream and tried to get it to flow into a little pipe under a bridge. The news showed this stream overflowing its banks after a rain storm and destroying some guy’s backyard, like several feet deep water. Until the news crew showed up at city hall, you can guess how much of a crap they gave about that guy too.
We must be cautious.
Now I’m gonna have that Mos Eisley music stuck in my head all day. Nooooooo!!
*goes to play his son’s Lego Star Wars game on PlayStation*
“Anyone want to request a song?” (out the side of his mouth) “Play the same song again!” “Okay, here we go!”
Way to go, MacMan – this is the first time I’ve voted for one that made the top page. Probably because it’s a beautiful picture and the juxtaposition with such a fitting caption.
Congrats on making the front page MacMan
It is a nice picture, but then D.C. is probably one of my favorite American cities. I’m a museum nut and there is certainly no shortage of them there. One of my favorite times to go is in the spring when the cherry blossoms are in bloom.
Oh, and those who say fail? I don’t buy it a bit. In 2006 with Bush and a Republican controlled legislature you were making the same damn thing yourselves, and stuff a whole lot worse. You may have short memories but some of us don’t.
ever hear that joke, “how do you know when a politician is lying?”
“their mouth is moving!”
seems fitting. our system is wrought with corruption, before and after, it could be worse though (look at myanmar, that’s sucks).
btw, it is a pretty pic – nice coloration with the sky contrasting the white dome and red-lit base. plus, the absence of people in it really makes it seem.. almost sterile but that’s not exactly the word i’m looking for
I think most of us really know that politicians on both sides are generally speaking full of crap. Even we Obama supporters had to figure out what to believe from him and what not to believe. I didn’t buy everything he was selling last year. I’m not buying everything now. All I can really hope for is that he’ll follow through on at least a couple of those campaign promises. But I don’t think he’s some ethical god. He’s a politician, and a pretty slick one too. I like him, but don’t think I actually *trust* him.
I need to find an article for you, Eric. It’s about the fact that everyone (both sides of the aisle) seems to know that Obama is lying, but they’re OK with it because “he’s not lying to me, he’s lying to the other guy”. Let me search around a bit and find it.
Here’s the article about lying to both sides. I want to apologize in advance, because it’s a blog, but it seems (to me) to be a rather level-headed blog and a good read.
And here’s another article called “Obama and the South Park Gnomes”. It’s a good read as well
I loved that one, at least in part because that seems to be the way government in general addresses problems.
Oyvay.
Oyvay about the article, or oyvay that I posted it? LOL. I has a confused.
Oyvay because as soon as I launched it, I was assaulted by a giant banner featuring Newt Gingrich. There should be a warning!
Crap, sorry!! I have a friend who I warn now before I send her sites dealing with Rush or any other right-wingers. She accused me of “Rush-Rolling” her one day and got mad
I’ll try to remember to warn you guys if it’s overly obnoxious, as long as you warn me if you’re sending me to the Huffington Post 
Rush-Rolling! Awesome!
No problem, I don’t often read the Huffington Post but if I link it here I’ll warn you so you don’t have to go off in a huff
You looked at Pyong Yang or Tehran lately?
Why does everyone argue in the comments?! Make it stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!
because we are evil and full of goo
I think that’s why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No.
Eric, we have to argue about this.
For reason A, I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG.
For reason B, MY EVIDENCE IS IRREFUTABLE.
Therefore, WE CANNOT STOP ARGUING.
Reason C, because I said so.
That’s pretty much how it goes here.
‘Cept Anniee up there, her argument is D- Everyone is more stupid than I am so that makes my opinions correct.
Tried the British House of Commons?
Or Iran
But what kinds of desserts do they serve? I am just asking…..
Just desserts.
…except that they haven’t had them, yet.
Well, there’s half-baked Alaska …
…and you can see Russia from it.
i thought maybe ho ho’s and ding dongs….
try the little blue “reply” button there, dead.
You are aware that this is supposed to be a COMEDY site, correct? Step off the soapbox and grow some wit.
You go first …
You guys are amateurs, if you want to see corruption come to the Mother of Parliaments in London. They will probably give you lessons for a fee, or charge it to Expenses or both.
They are the biggest bunch of slime ever, lead by the biggest liar in the world, and it happened because we, the public took our eye off the ball and believed what they said because it’s easier, learn from our mistakes !
Tru DAT !
they’re all scums. both parties!!! democrats are worse with their communist agendas and tactics.
Dude–look up ‘communist’ in a political science textbook. Then you can post. The Dems have their hands in the pockets of the corporations just like the Repubs. That is totally counter to communist. And scummy…
Freakin’ trolls.
Sometimes idiocy, it’s just funny.
-shoots lazer at Republicrats and drags him off to the super-secret Troll Dungeon-
look up Natzi and find how Bama is one! socialized nationalist!
I don’t think Alabama will really appreciate being called Nazis.
The Wang is not pleased…
What a sad welcome back for the Wang.
Howl the Wang’s welcome …
who loned it through the streets of Idaho seeking visionary indian angels who were visionary indian angels, who thought they were only mad when Baltimore gleamed in supernatural ecstasy …
Hmmm.
1. I need a time machine.
2. I need to go to Baltimore.
3. You need to show more often!
4. The beef biscuit casserole was awesome!
5. Time is an illusion.
6. Baltimore is a dark sexy town with good crab houses.
7. Lynn made me Chuck steaks sandwiched together over mozzarella and wrapped in bacon for Father’s day.
8. I’m listening to Hey Jude right now because it is calming.
9. The sandwich sounds awesome!
10. Try Pink Floyd Echo’s on the Meddle album.
As well it shouldn’t be. I lived for six months and saw several hundred confederate flags, but not ONE swastika, tyvm.
I live *there* for six months. In Alabama. I lived for more than six months. It took me this long to catch that typo?
I spent a week in Biloxi one day..
That’s a joke right?
Spell much?
And my father lived under Nazi occupation for 6 years, so I suspect I have a better idea of the definition than you do…
Check out how I put! random exclamation points! in my sentence! to lend weight to what! I’m saying!!!!!!
Interjection! Shows excitement! And emotion!
*misses schoolhouse rock*
Making me have a heart attack from laughing too much= PK.
PK. Where the comments are way funnier than the actual jokes.
I saw what you did there..
AAAAAAAA-men
Well then, this means I’m going straight into the Sarlock Pit next week to ask for research funding….
Try the Palace of Westminster!!
oh you SURE do…
Not heard of the Houses of Parliament, then?
The Houses of Parliament IS the Palace of Westminster.
STOP PRESS: today’s British headlines – Scotland Yard will now be investigating certain MP’s and their ‘expenses’ claims (fraudulently claiming for ghost mortgages among other things). If found guilty (if it gets to court) a possible 10 years in prison.
In case you wanted to know just how bad other developed countrys’ politicians are.
And here in Oz the PM and his Treasurer are facing claims that they helped a car dealer gain an advantage in seeking help with his troubled dealership. Now both the Labor party and Liberal party are calling for the resignations from both sides. It just goes to show, no matter how big or small the issue, politicians are all stupid and corrupt.
Washington: Cesspoll on the Potomac.
Two things:
1. There are scum bags on either side of the aisle, and there are a great many shady deals going down in this proverbial “hive.” Most of the members of congress are either zealots or incompetent, and they have been fouling up the country for much longer than either administration that other posters care to mention.
2. It’s a movie quote, for god’s sake.
Some people just don’t get English humor.
I’ve seen that movie I don’t know how many times…and I didn’t recognize the quote at first. My fail for having a life? Or my fail for not having an audio-digitizing memory?
I think “the Romans” is what gives it away.
That’s from a movie?! OMG I don’t think that was said in the comments section. ANYWHERE AT ALL.
The Steve, about 1/2 way up. Otherwise, it would have gone right over my head…after 7 or so viewings!
*waves hand*
These are not the LOLs you are looking for…
GRAWWWWK!
(chewbacca)
Laugh it up, fuzzball.
(Not surprisingly, Star Wars is one of my favorite movies to quote.)
Of course, Eric.
whenever I got bored.
They’re terrific to quote.
I pretty much LIVED out of the 20th anniversary collector’s edition episodes IV through VI
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
- Mark Twain, a Biography
Wonderful, wonderful quote there bud.
Ditto to the comment about the British houses of Parliament – villainy, corruption – and men in tights
Sorry to tell you guys, but Brasília is worst…
And the crab cakes aren’t bad, either.
Aren’t these LOLs supposed to be, um, funnee?
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For any thinking person who wants to debunk the Story of Stuff, the latest propaganda piece being forced on innocent schoolchildren despite being full of lies, distortions, wild inaccuracies, and spin – here’s a well-resourced link, containing more than enough to get it removed from your local school and yes, the sources are sufficient to use on any term paper. That is just part 1 of 4.
God in heaven, I find myself pausing the scroll to read Anniee’s posts to see what bat-shit crazy wing-nut whack-job thing she’s spewing now. Please tell me there’s a 12 step program for this!
I
Don’t get it.
And I’m afraid there’s nothing to get.
I fear this greatly.
Or, worse yet, there’s something to be offended about for a moment, and then I can dismiss it as wingnut crazycrap that I have no humor and patience for anymore.
{rolleyes} As though it doesn’t work regardless of WHO is in power, right? But then Moonbats have notoriously thin skins, don’t they?
I do not get it.
I am afraid there’s nothing.
I fear this greatly.
Yup, not bad for a haiku, really.
I’m always so late to jump on the funny.
Shame on me.
For shame, you batwingmoonpoopnutshit!
Yeah, totally. Our government isn’t like those really groovy rulers that make their floors at a slant with a drain in the middle so they can wash all the blood away after their infamous parties. I mean, like, totally… How could you find a government power more evil than ours? *rolls eyes*
Oops, forgot stoning. But then you put it in perspective with making the floors slanted to catch the blood. I can’t imagine how we were more evil than that, but rest assured, we ARE!
Oh, right…. I guess all us americans are evil for doing nothing about it. But not you, Anniee. Of course, you were spending all your time, resources and money to make a difference in the situation. Right?……. Right? Yeah. Didn’t think so.
Why should I? We didn’t do anything wrong. We’re just allegedly the WORST and most EVIL torturers and terrorists on the PLANET LOL
Anyway I believe your complaint about how others are worse so that makes the lol invalid has been dealt with pretty much almost immediately in the beginning of this thread.
Wow. I’m having a touch of difficulty following your illogical choice of words. BUT I gather you’re saying this has already been discussed. I have better things to do than use up an hour of my life reading every single post so as not to offend someone like you by just speaking my piece and walking away. Apparently that’s just too much for you to handle.
I *did*, however, read just enough to notice that you were trolling here and being as offensive and rude as your lack of anything better to do time allowed. So…. Seriously. Find something better to do. I’m always up for a healthy debate. As long as it’s logical.
Read other threads please. Anniee isn’t a troll here, just combative
and hey, that’s not always a bad thing. This place wouldn’t be the same without her.
Anyway, give the poor girl a break. If I’d been commenting as much as she has to defend my positions tonight, my head would’ve exploded.
Thanks tyler lol.
Officially unsubscribed (for realz.)
No problem. Sorry bout the combative bit, but I couldn’t say you were a passive, agreeable person all the time, especially not on this thread
However, you do bring most of the debate and, even if you don’t intend it, bring a bunch of intelligent people to discuss things, including yourself on most every occasion.
No need to apologize for calling her combative, I’m sure she knows that about herself. Just like I know that about myself sometimes too.
Me too.
So Eric, do you like the interrobang‽‽‽
What the hell is the interrobang?
See how the question marks have the tiny exclamation points in them?
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They are fun. Copy and paste, or go to wingdings 2 and hit shift+6 to make one.
You’re older than me, you should know- they were popular in the 60’s and early 70’s
NP; going to watch Shallow Hal now. Time to relax.
you will never find a lamer lol that is the epitome of cliché and unoriginal. how did this make it on the page? bleh.
you will never find a lamer comment that is the epitome of cliché and unoriginal.
I mean really, it’s been said before above you. Before complaining about the unoriginality of an LOL, make sure your comment isn’t unoriginal.
because that’s what people come to this site for: the comments…dumb ass
So basically, you think people come here and post comments just to be unoriginal and cliche? I think you missed the intent of Tyler’s comment.
But laboratory findings using the application of a bimodal taxonomic humor stimuli analysis to Jackie’s comment suggest a content structure with conventional exploratory and schematic properties which while in isolation are unfunny approach humorous levels with the addition of the onomonopiedic “bleh.”
*head explodes*
Ok, where did you pull that from?!?! *snort*
I am appalled by the casualness of people who speak of throwing away our second amendment right to protect ourselves, as though it doesn’t matter. How easily we speak of relinquishing the liberty of others to do what they need to do – all “for the public good.” Even though we know it’s not “me” doing it – “Nyet, tovarischee” was always to stop one’s neighbor from doing something, not oneself.
But then I remember where gun bans have led in the UK – to so many stabbing deaths that they’ve had to come out with the NO-STAB knife…and I just laugh and laugh. You want ‘em? Come and get ‘em. From my cold, dead hands. I don’t surrender my rights even under threat of death – they’d have to kill me to a) shut me up or b) take anything else I have a right to. As it stands my money is taken at the point of a gun; they aren’t taking more than that.
It is time for us to emulate the Iranians and take to the streets to overthrow our government,
Okay, you first!
And be shot like a dog, like poor Neda
The blood is going to run this time, there’s almost no doubt. I’m sorry to know it.
You know, people in D.C. are normal people. All the scum and villains come from the states. I’m mean, D.C can’t even vote in congress. So, stop insulting our city for something you gave us…
I think he was referring to the government, not the city. But point taken.
Except whether or not the people there are normal – I’ve lived outside NYC all my life and spent plenty of time there, but until visiting DC a couple years ago I have NEVER seen such a level of aggressive (very aggressive) beggary. You couldn’t walk ten feet without panhandlers, or drive half a block. Nor have I ever seen groups of wacko fruits with helmets and Segways. I don’t think it’s a “normal” place at all.
Anniee, I think those were lobbyists.
Well they looked like the walking undead…oh, I see what you mean.
Those were actually tourists.
Um, ok. This isn’t really funny. It might make a good postcard though…
This caption is pretty effin stupid. Yeah the gov’ment sucks, but i can think of plenty of countries that have it farrrrrrrrrrr worse. what a dildo thing to caption…redonkulous.
well that’s not very nice. it’s a lot better now that the administration doesn’t suck the devil’s taint and the poor people don’t have to pop a cap in anyone’s @$$ to show how angry they are.
Still not great, though.
I’ll never find a more wretched what?
http://samirsaba.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/vaticano.jpg
Sadly…this is somewhat true.
D.C. is an AMAZING city, in spite of the politics. I’ve lived there for many years and love this city. Does the name Smithsonian ring a bell ?
good info.thanks!
If we were still under the alien and sedition acts… everyone at pundit kitchen would be screwed..lol
Naqmel:
Did you forget about the previous administration already? We just had another dead soldier come back thanks to Bush.