So, that’s a penis?
So, that’s a penis?
Yup.
I’m not really feeling so bad about the whole celibacy thing now…
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FIRST!!! of many
she obviously didn’t see mine O_O
“A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one.”
Moliere”
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
Mark Twain
“i kill you!”
achmed the dead terrorist
“Hey guys, watch this!”
Some dead redneck
Lol…very often preceded by “Hold my beer…”
Love that joke.
ditto.
one of my fav’s
The human penis is made up of three columns of tissue: two corpora cavernosa lie next to each other on the dorsal side and one corpus spongiosum lies between them on the ventral side.
The enlarged and bulbous-shaped end of the corpus spongiosum forms the glans penis, which supports the foreskin or prepuce, a loose fold of skin that in adults can retract to expose the glans. The area on the underside of the penis, where the foreskin is attached, is called the frenum (or frenulum).
Anatomical diagram of a human penis.
The urethra, which is the last part of the urinary tract, traverses the corpus spongiosum, and its opening, known as the meatus (pronounced /miːˈeɪtəs/), lies on the tip of the glans penis. It is a passage both for urine and for the ejaculation of semen. Sperm are produced in the testes and stored in the attached epididymis. During ejaculation, sperm are propelled up the vas deferens, two ducts that pass over and behind the bladder. Fluids are added by the seminal vesicles and the vas deferens turns into the ejaculatory ducts which join the urethra inside the prostate gland. The prostate as well as the bulbourethral glands add further secretions, and the semen is expelled through the penis.
The raphe is the visible ridge between the lateral halves of the penis, found on the ventral or underside of the penis, running from the meatus (opening of the urethra) across the scrotum to the perineum (area between scrotum and anus).
The human penis differs from those of most other mammals, as it has no baculum, or erectile bone, and instead relies entirely on engorgement with blood to reach its erect state. It cannot be withdrawn into the groin, and it is larger than average in the animal kingdom in proportion to body mass.
Anyone else starting to think that zerg-rushing First-ers is worse than the actual firsting? I mean, it only wastes more space on the comments page…
No.
Agreed, Jane.
I think it’s the best way to deal with first-ers- plus, who doesn’t want to know more about penises?
Well, actually, I’m comfortable with knowledge level re: penii. There are other topics, tho
apologies, one track mind
lol. penii
Well, that’s a fine trait in a lady, no apologies needed!
It’s not penus, so it’s not penii. The -is end means that the nominative plural (which would be penii if it was penus) also ends with -es. So if you want to be a grammar nerd, do it right:
Penes is plural of penis.
(penis, penis, peni, penem, pene is the singular row. Penes, penium, penibus, penes, penibus is the plural row.)
The joys of the intertubes. Eventually, SOMEone will come along who had Latin classes!
Lol. Penes.
Latin FTW
Romani ite domum
The point is to discourage idiots who think it’s great to post “FIRST” like it’s some wonderful interwebs achievement.
Doesn’t seem to be working – it’s also just about as annoying.
endorses use of the ordinal post rule and being extremely late and unresponsive in commenting
I fully agree. It’s much more annoying than having to read the word “first,” ignore it and move on.
I find the random information informative.
Some, of course, resent all efforts to educate them. They usually shout, “FIRST!”
Agreed. That rule is a keeper.
i concur, there’s often some very interesting random tid bits of information
wrong — this is the only comment type site i’ve found that you rarely see ’second,’ ‘third,’ etc. that alone is worth the ordinal trivia rule – not having to scroll past 3-4 idiots posting what number they are, and the ‘tards who have to post comments re the position of those posts….
Yeah, compared to the other ICHC sites we’re pretty low on it happening. And even if it doesn’t discourage it completely we get great facts out of it! I don’t know that they need to be so long though, but sometimes what looks short in wikipedia ends up being really long in the comments section.
true, but usually the long ones are worth slogging through if only for the comments they can trigger, and sometimes i think the long ones help to discourage the rapid moving trolls, or at least the more illiterate ones who ‘don’t want to get none of that elitist learnin’ cr@p’
ICHCers actually CONGRATULATE one another on being “not-second”.
srsly
I’ve learned some great stuff through ordinal post rule. Why it seems like just yesterday that Seth was teaching us how to artificially inseminate a cow. Good times.
Awesome.
Moooo
So are you now officially certified as a cow-poke?
(Sorry, my sister is a vet…)
And not a post I actually needed, either- I’ve impregnated plenty of cows in my day without Seth’s lesson
I’m kidding, of course.
starcraft reference win!
Er no. Besides which it’s fun, particularly if you can type something from memory rather than copy and paste from Wikipedia or IMDB.
I didn’t know Bill Knie was on PK!
Bill Knie the science guy! BILL BILL BILL BILL!
I loved that show!
I couldn’t resist… it just popped out, if you’ll excuse the childish metaphor.
it’s Bill NYE, not knie….
Thank you. And I love that guy!!
I’m too old for Bill Nye but I was all about Mr. Wizard’s World. Back in the day Nickelodeon was actually a great station for kids.
When I was younger we learned all of our important science stuff through Mr. Green Jeans.
moose, rabbit & mr greenjeans were the only reason i watched capt kangaroo, especially moose and his ping pong balls
You didn’t like Tom Terrific?!?!
evidently not, i don’t even remember him…
He was the little cartoon guy..
“You didn’t like Tom Terrific?!?!”
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YES!! Tom Terrific and his sidekick, Mighty Manfred the Wonder Dog, and his arch-nemesis, Crabby Appleton!
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/old/
Yeah, I’m old, too.
As a matter of fact, I watched Mr. Green Jeans on a black and white tv and was VERY surprised to see on a color set at a hotel that Mr. Green Jeans jean’s were, in fact, blue. It was the first of many disappointments in my life.
lol, i knew his pants were blue, my dad wore overalls almost identical
but i still don’t remember tom terrific and his bunch, but there was the magic drawing board that i kind of remember, and in later years wasn’t bill cosby a regular with stories or something?
Between Mr. Green Jeans and Mr. Wizard, my generation had… nothing. Nothing, that is, except scary rednecks prowling the halls of school asking, “Hey! Hey yew! Whachoo readin’ fir?”
Do you guys remember that show, “Learn to Draw”? Every week, there was a different object, and the host would show you, step by step, how to draw a car or a house or a cat or a dog or a person? I *LOVED* that show! I made my mother buy me the official Learn to Draw sketch pad and drawing pencils so I could follow along every week.
Those trees were never as happy as they should have been……..
Mr. Wizard’s world was excellent. I think its what made me interested in science to begin with… and ultimately, my quest for world domination.
*lightly kicks Max under the table*
*speaks through clenched teeth*
Ut up-shay about the orld domination-way!
Hey, how do I know how to spell Nye — it was TV and the damn kids were watching it, yes Jane you did — sorry you were so slow (Just kidding, don’t tell your mom).
No, I didn’t. Bill Nye the Science Guy didn’t start until I was 13. Not only was I too old for that (I was reading John Grisham and Michael Chriton, for christ’s sake) but we were living in that crappy farmhouse with only five stations, one of which was the religion channel. And you were out in the field half the time anyway, how would you know?
Jane, I find it creepy that we’re probably not only the exact same age, but were reading nearly the exact same books. I’m more of a fan of Crichton than Grisham.
Well, I was an advanced reader and the whole young adult genre didn’t really exist when we were kids. Not that I would have read Twilight, but there is some really interesting and well written young adult books out there that have nothing to do with sparkling and obsessive love interests. However, unless you wanted to read R.L. Stein’s Fear Street books or Christopher Pike (which me being an advanced reader I read them all in the fifth grade) there weren’t a lot of options for kids. I loved The Client, I must have read it a bunch of times, and I was also reading a lot of Mysteries.
I just find that when it comes to scenarios that could make your skin crawl, Crichton could really create some hair raising ones.
Well yeah. I never read any of his that had to do with world wide plagues, too creepy! I loved Jurassic Park when it came out though, and Congo the book was way better than Congo the movie. I also really liked Timeline, but that was later, when I was in college I believe. Have you ever read a guy named John Case? He did a book called the Genesis Code that dealt with Catholic conspiracy way before Da Vinci Code.
Almost any of Crichton’s books were better than the movie, easily. Disclosure was pretty much as good as the book, but then again, I had to deal with Demi Moore… *shivers*
But no to both your questions, havent heard of that writer or book, although I do love catholic conspiracy theories, I will have to check it out.
I keep hearing rumors about Jurassic Park IV. Is Spielberg really gonna sink that low now that Crichton is gone?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen all of Jurassic Park III. I actually read Lost World and only my (at the time and totally weird) love of Jeff Goldblum kept me watching the second one. To me part of what make Jurassic Park a great movie was that it hadn’t been done with that level of believable effects before. There was such a level of awe and amazement to it that when you watched the other movies you were like, “eh, dinosaurs, seen that before.”
Lost World was one of the most ridiculous movies ever made. Taking the dinosaurs to San Diego totally spoiled it for me. It’s like they said, “Okay, we’re done…but the movie is only 45 minutes. Let’s throw together another totally separate plot real quick that has nothing to do with the book at all.”
I enjoyed the whole Jurassic Park franchise; on the other hand, giant monster movies are the only scary movies that really do it for me. Not afraid of Jason, Freddy, comets from space, ancient Indian burial grounds, or any other scary movie out there. Give me something too big to fight, too fast to outrun, and too smart to hide from (the raptors), and I’m cowering in my seat with my hands over my face! Good Times!
The first Jurassic Park movie was teh awsum, the second one blew such major chunks that I didn’t think that the franchise could be saved, and the third one actually redeemed the trilogy. Kind of like the Mission Impossible movies.
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And Freddy creeps me out a hell of a lot more than Jason, because you can conceivably outrun or chainsaw Jason. How the crap are you supposed to outrun a nightmare?????
“it is larger than average in the animal kingdom”
Yeah it is. [face_mischief]
Hmmm I just had to learn all that for my anatomy exam last Tuesday…
Yay for anatomy! –sorry, but I love the topic. But then again, I should since I teach it!
Well it sure beats physiology, for which I have an exam tomorrow :O
I like them best combined…what and how at the same time. Good luck with the exam, anyway–kick some gluteus maximus!
-tries to refrain from anatomy examination joke-
Sorry.
’s OK. My BF offers to ‘help me with lab’ all the time!
Well, tell your BF he is a winner.
Oh, and do you usually use a mace or axe to take his head off afterwards, Ms. Viking?
Hmm, they both come in spray cans, so either one would be purse-portable.
-sigh-
No, I usually let him keep his head–I prefer brains in the original packaging! *grins*
I’m a tad confuzzled when it gets to identifying the dorsal and ventral surfaces of an *ahem*. After all, sometimes one side’s ventral, at happier times it’s dorsal.
If you see where I’m coming from….
Stooping to the “lowest common denominator” of humor…is not humor. There is nothing funny in this except that it brings up childish gross-out humor.
You are entitled to your opinion. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Simple right?
Like Ms California was entitled to her opinion?
Where the hell did that come from?
I know, right? Besides, with divorce rates at 50% for first marriages, I think there might be bigger threats to marriage than whether that nice lesbian couple next door want to get married.
False stat based on a snapshot, just like the “surplus” under Clinton was.
Oh, link
Umm, your link says “half of all marriages haven’t ended in divorce *yet*”, so it kind of supports my claim, not yours. I’ll get my link up after I get home from work tonight.
It also says 1 in 8 *actually* do. It says a lot of things. It was the least conservative analysis I could find, but the fact is that the snapshot method is not only unreliable, it doesn’t even begin to account for all the people who *stay* married.
Here it is: {http://www.divorcerate.org/}
I’m afraid you’re misreading your own cite: the phrase you mention is part of the text your cite is *refuting*.
Still, I respect that you took the time to research your point, thank you.
Annie and Mark – There’s a huge difference between the number of marriages that end in divorce and the number of people who get divorced since one person can get married and divorce countless times (skewing the numbers). That could explain your differences in stats.
Check the divorcratedotorg link, it addresses your point.
Shockingly, nobody talks about the more serious problem: 100% of marriages that don’t end in divorce end in death.
Marriage kills!!!!!
Clearly. I think a committee should be formed to study this.
And the effects of swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. It has a 100% mortality rate as well.
Well, not all of us.
But still.
Oops. Smilie fail.
true, I was confused as well, quite random.
I think Innocent Foreigner confuses us all..
Funny how the only person who thought Innocent Foreigner’s comment was good was Anniee…
Probably because it was applicable and true. That usually has something to do with it. An unpopular opinion does not equal a wrong one.
Innocent F would be happy to except Anniee has to put her hand back up the sock.
If freedom of speech is being curtailed, then absolutely yes. This is not hard to understand.
freedom of speech isn’t being curtailed, stop freaking out over nothing
basically: she said something she wanted to, the judge said his own.. both spoke what they wanted and suffered whatever the consequences were based on what other people thought. this always happens. it’s like being mad at the bully because he beat you up when you called him a douche to his face – freedom of speech, sure.. smartness of speech, not really.
“Smartness of Speech”
That’s beautiful.
thanks, Jane.
I heard she was not showing up for contracted appearances and that she disputes that. I don’t really care either way because I think that beauty pageants are outdated and sexist.
As a massively heterosexual male, I’m sad to say I find the vapidity and shallowness of these women so unattractive that it totally cancels the physical, nay, surgical perfection they possess. I have pretty strong feelings about the kind of man that would be attracted to them; I would bet they’re rich, of a certain political persuasion, and not that interested in what a woman has to say. I could very well be broad brushing this, of course.
Considering that most rich old guys claim Republican and vote Democrat, I’d say your claim of a broad brush is pretty accurate
i was kind of thinking the same thing, Froo. May I call you Froo, or perhaps Frou? Typing 8 letters for a name wears me out.
“massive” eh? *wink wink*
You can call me anything you like, as long as you call me
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Actually, Froo works just fine for me. Most people around here call me that, and it’s bled over into real life, lol.
ZING!
ZAPOW!
Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing Zow Zing
MP reference, 5 point win
Just remember it could always be worse. >.>
I just farted.
It smells horribly.
Perhaps, for the next one, I shall pin you to the ground and sit on your face.
Very crude.
Very funny.
Ya know, I personally don’t like gross-out humor, but I didn’t find this one to be that gross. I did find it to be extremely funny.
Keogh’s fart joke on the other hand? Not funny. Oh, well. To each their own.
As a female–I laughed!
I guess yasoup would think that you are childish for your love of gross-out humor. I say gross-out humor brings us all together.
As a male, I laughed as well… if there is a god with intelligent design his sense of humor is clearly evident in our genital design.
Oh yeah!
The first was hillarious. Makes me remember a punch line, “he said celibrate not celibate.”
“Move over sisters- I have to gargle”
“…before Sister Patricia sits in there.”
Ooh, that’s a punchline I don’t know!
wow there are really nuns which aren’t granny outside of pron, xD
If it was in her mouth she wouldn’t talk so much
Your comment is misogynist. Kindly refrain from such comments in the future. Remember that misogyny keeps you from getting laid!
Now don’t be so hard on him, while it would make sense, your assertion is not always true.
Yeah, if that were true, misogynists would have died out a long time ago.
Well, perhaps that would keep him out of the gene pool.
We could only be so lucky.
I find his attitude off putting, but is it really a misogynist state of mind to pursue oral sex? ‘Cause if it is, I may have to turn in my Liberal White Male card…
you all need to remove the stick(s) from your ass…but then you might just talk more…damn!
Pursuing oral sex is not mysogynistic. Using it as a way to silence women–definitely. And a valid reason to leave him high and dry, in my opinion.
I don’t hear any popping, maybe try to relax?
You so aren’t going to get any, at least not from any women with intelligence or self-esteem. To quote the great DWN, “appreciative women give better head!” Think about it, dude.
Unappreciative women bite down. O_O
It’s always a possibility. The question is, do you feel lucky?
Personally, I’m not a fan of oral sex as much as I am in most other forms. It just looks degrading to the woman
Well, let’s let the individual ladies make that decision, shall we? Many women enjoy it.
You’re welcome to restrict yourself to the others if you like
I was going to respond and then my inner self rebelled at discussing sex with a 16 year old and I let it go. Suffice it to say that in a healthy relationship with two consenting adults there is nothing demeaning about it.
Well said.
Yeah…what she said.
Totally–love and trust make a huge difference in perspective. Otherwise, sex can become ’servicing’–ick.
I might be speaking naively here (as, men and sex with them isn’t really my area — so to speak) but from my vantage point, a female giving a male oral sex Does look degrading to her, and her enjoying it looks like it would be because she’s turned on by being degraded in some way.
Am I wrong? Can I get some enlightenment here, or another view of things?
I can only speak for myself here. But I wouldn’t even think of providing oral sex for a guy unless I 1) totally trusted, and 2) was in love with him, and 3) he was making me VERY happy in bed. Then, the fun of it is getting him crazy…because he shares that crazy so nicely!
(yup, VG is in love!)
Is it degrading for a man to give a woman oral sex? (I don’t think it is.) But what pleasure can he possibly derive from it? Only that of giving the other person pleasure. Same principle in reverse answers your question.
FadedLY might be picking up on the degrading verbal and body language in some pr0n, or by certain males in his/her circle. Or maybe in one of the previous lols, where a jerk was describing causing women to ’shut up’ because they should be ’servicing him’. Such behavior is only working to the disadvantage of guys who like oral sex, because it makes intelligent women hesitant.
But in a good relationship, there is no degradation at all in giving each other pleasure.
Okay, your comment is full of win. Thanks for the clarification!
Next question: What’s it doing way up there?
I’m guessing kilt on stilts.
They’re having NUN of that nonsense…
AH HA HAHA!
I know that was lame.
hahaha, Squiggly’s comment made me laugh more than the caption. *lame*
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Hating the Christians again…so sad to be here with all this prejudice….(Hangs head)
Are you effing KIDDING me? Christians will find ANY reason to scream “we’re being persecuted” when everyone knows that they (christians) are the biggest offenders.
Innocent Foreigner, are you really as stupid as you pretend to be?
God I hope not, to think that something that stupid could use a computer is frightening… next thing you know, you’re dog’s using the pc to look up kitty porn!
That explains alot about what see in my “history” when I get on the PC in the morning…
That’s why I had my dog neutered early. Now all I have to worry about is him listening to Barbara Streisand records and dressing like Cher.
I’m not sure Innocent Foreigner is stupid, Charlie. Check this out from wiki:
“Ideas of reference and delusions of reference involve people having a belief or perception that irrelevant, unrelated or innocuous phenomena in the world refer to them directly or have special personal significance. In psychiatry, delusions of reference form part of the diagnostic criteria for psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia[1], delusional disorder, or bipolar disorder during the elevated stages of mania.”
That might explain the randomness of his comments – somehow he thinks what’s being discussed is all about him, or is critical of his belief system. I don’t know how else to explain the mental gymnastics he does to turn peoples’ comments into part of the vast conspiracy against him. Oh wait, he figured us out. Durn.
…. I like you, sir.
Well, I’m a ma’am, but I like you too!
Again with the sweeping generalizations, Ivan! There are plenty of liberal, tolerant, accepting Christians out there who don’t persecute people. They just don’t end up on TV or the radio.
Then why did Prop 8 fail in Cali?
1. Not all homophobes are Christians.
2. Not all Christians are homophobes.
3. Again, the loony bible thumpers are the ones who make life miserable for everyone who isn’t like them INCLUDING the tolerant, liberal Christians.
4. I was pissed about the Prop 8 thing. I don’t advocate oppressing anybody.
AH! Are you Presbyterian, too, Eric! I’ve been ordained in the PC(USA) for nineteen years and have worked hard to include all persons in our church – especially our pulpits.
So, here is another non-batshit-crazy Christian, Ivan!
I actually haven’t been to church in a very long time, but I’ve been a lifelong Presbyterian thanks in part to my grandfather, a retired Presbyterian minister. Grandpa was a legend at my old church. LOL
I’m not Christian, but I’ve heard Reverend Barry Lynn of Americans United speak several times, and I can’t help but wonder if I would still be a believer if the preachers I grew up with were more like him.
1) Prop 8 passed.
2) The LD$ $pent ton$ of ca$h making $ure it pa$$ed.
Yeah, my bad. Dat’s wot I ment, anywai. I was so incensed that I failed to think things through. Ya know.
Yeah, it’s all good
Um, as the author of this lol, I would like to point out that it’s not making fun of any religion, belief or religious group – it’s making fun of male genitalia. I do apologize if anyone finds it offensive, but I base my captions on the expressions in the pictures and what I think would be funny.
Plus, I couldn’t figure out how to raise it up a couple of levels into a fart joke.
Hating on male genitalia again. So shameful! It makes me sad to read such blatant intolerance of the pork sword.
Aw, c’mon – it’s the only thing us white guys can even make fun of anymore…
Hey — no worries, everyone knows that nuns wonder what if? (sorry Sister Mary Elephant, please don’t smack my hands with the ruler).
Don’t worry, dear, I’m always willing to help create a safe space for your appreciation of the…um…pork sword…
Her creamy bosom rose and fell like a temperamental souffle, her tart mouth pursed in distaste, and the sous-chef thought to himself, sadly, “I don’t know if she even likes the pork sword.”
I think it’s great, and I didn’t read it as offensive to Christians. I’ve even known some nuns who were easy-going enough to find this funny. Ignore the trolls. Keep making lols.
Kudos bodo!
*blushing* Thanks – it’s only the third one I’ve done that’s made it (the others were the all-turtle marching band and the “if not for nom” goggie ones). This one got in really quickly though – I only made it a few days ago.
The process for PK and ROFLrazzi is actually pretty quick. Far fewer submissions than ICHC & the dog one.
Eh, I went to Catholic school. Nuns scare me almost as much as zombies. And don’t get me started on the possibility of Zombie Nuns.
…zombie pirate ninja nuns…
mutant ninja zombie nuns…
Pirates and ninjas don’t really bother me though.
How about zombie pirates, a la Pirates of the Caribbean?
No, not really. I think because they weren’t mindlessly hungering after the flesh of the living. That’s really the clincher, right there.
zombie clowns
Bad fairie! Bad, bad fairie!
*screams in terror*
….zombie pirate ninja nuns in CLOWN costumes! YIKES!
As a Christian, I’d like to say I found this one funny and not offensive AT ALL. If you think this lol was intended to provoke, you must be seriously searching for something to be offended by.
Seconded… and this is coming from a seminarian.
…considering the context, part of me is expecting a joke on the word “seminary” now…
Changing a lightbulb?
How many seminary teachers does it take? It depends…
Early morning seminary: It takes one perched precariously on a chair in the dark at 5:30 am. (high heels help her reach better)
Fulltime seminary teacher: They don’t need a light bulb, they put off enough light from their perpetual smile.
Seminary coordinator: Uh, I know they’ve got lightbulbs around here somewhere
Home study seminary teacher: Just open the refrigerator door, and let her husband change it when he gets home.
Forget this “God” fellow; Google is the source of all good things!
endorses the parody of his own religion. And technically, we’re only hating Catholics, so…
You really do seek reasons to be offended and hang your head, don’t you?
Meh… I’m a Christian; I laughed. Besides, when you become a nun, it’s not because you hate men or something; it’s because you love God more. It’s not a deprivation thing, not really. Just choosing the thing you love most over something else.
Yeah, it’s a celibacy and genitalia isn’t pretty joke anyway. Christianity doesn’t even play into the joke.
If the third nun was saying “OMG WTF was I thinking with this celibacy thing” I think we could all agree it would be an anti-religious joke.
Where the hell did that come from??
What’s that term for when those in power want to feel like they’re just victims? Any psyche majors out there?
Just a stab, but…. utterly pathetic?
Self-pity to the extreme?
pcflamingo nailed it up top (which I enjoyed so much I felt like sharing it, thank’s flamingo!):
“I’m not sure Innocent Foreigner is stupid, Charlie. Check this out from wiki:
“Ideas of reference and delusions of reference involve people having a belief or perception that irrelevant, unrelated or innocuous phenomena in the world refer to them directly or have special personal significance. In psychiatry, delusions of reference form part of the diagnostic criteria for psychotic illnesses such as schizophrenia[1], delusional disorder, or bipolar disorder during the elevated stages of mania.”
That might explain the randomness of his comments – somehow he thinks what’s being discussed is all about him, or is critical of his belief system. I don’t know how else to explain the mental gymnastics he does to turn peoples’ comments into part of the vast conspiracy against him. Oh wait, he figured us out. Durn.”
–pcflamingo circa sometime today
oh gosh, thanks wallFly, glad you liked it. It does kind of ’splain where Innocent Foreigner might be coming from.
yar, sorry, hope you don’t mind me copyin’ it again – made me laugh when i saw it the first time and it just seemed so damn pertinent to the following conversation as well
Douchebaggery?
Bagged Douchery?
Having hogged everything else in the world, they now want to steal victim status, too?
To be fair, I rarely hear people “hating” on the Buddhists, Hindi, Jews, or Wiccan… outside of the religious right. I had the distinct misfortune of having to listen to Rush Limbaugh every morning back when I worked for the campus post office… *shudder*
Yeah, but those religions don’t evangelize so much, so they’re not as annoying to others. And anyway, plenty of people hate the Jews!
Depends on where you go… we had a Buddhist evangelist back at my undergrad who was outside of our student union every week. A rastafarian too, come to think of it… of course, they got a bit less attention because they didn’t shout out that the students passing by were going to Hell because God hated them. My own campus ministry had to do its best to combat that idiocy when it showed up.
Yeah, I admit I have been hit up to buy a vegetarian cookbook by a Krishna once
But that’s not really the same kind of evangelism, it’s more like student activism, and like you say, there’s usually not a lot of threats of hellfire and damnation and self-righteousness and stuff.
Most Wiccan traditions hold that some truths are only meant for those who are ready to learn, and should be hidden from the rest of the world; in that respect they are, in fact, anti-evangelists!
FUNNEH!
…”pork sword”? ummmm….cocktail weenies then?
Tube steak?
Extra-length ham sandwich?
trouser trout
Dude, if I see a fish head poking out of there at me, I’m running. LOL
if you see the fish head, it is already too late, you’re pregnant.
I don’t get it.
Don’t bother trying. Likely it only makes sense to him. *sigh*
It must be an age thing because I got it..
Ageism!! Eddie is an ageist!!!
Hmmmm, no wonder the two of you get along so well. Perhaps you should go discuss lawns and methods for keeping people off of them.
The lawn care would take some time, but keeping the damn kids off of it would only be a 30 second conversation.
If those are americans then they likely didn’t see a true penis as so many americans have a good chunk cut (circumcised) off, intact penises look so much better
Who cares? They’re all gross.
i don’t know about gross so much as just silly. and as for uncircumcised men, i nearly always think ‘turtle, turtle’ for some reason….
*grins*
They really don’t…
Agreed…
Please don’t make this into a rant about circumcision or a religious rant – come on, it’s basically just a d*ck joke, ok?
For the record, I am and my son (born in 2000) is not – I figure it’s his body and his choice (it can always be done, but undoing it is not quite so easy). And that is not a criticism either!
My vision for the lol was something like they’re at some public event where a streaker shows up and they’re discussing it (that’s part of what makes it funny for me, the sort of analytical aspect, if you know what I mean).
JUST a dick joke? JUST?! Excuse me my friend, but thats where I draw the line! Dick jokes are paramount! They are the finality of all good humor! They fit every occasion and and situation! At the grocery store and you bump into an old friend, lay a good dick joke on them! Meeting your girlfriend’s parents for the first time!? Tell em a dick joke! You know her mother likes them! Visiting grandma at the home?! DICK JOKE! You can f*ck up a fart joke, and you can f*ck up sex joke, but you cannot f*ck up a dick joke without SERIOUS ramifications, and you sir….. YOU have make the dick joke…… into a f*ckin ART!!!
I could not be more enthusiastic without more exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!
“JUST a dick joke? JUST?! Excuse me my friend, but thats where I draw the line! Dick jokes are paramount! They are the finality of all good humor!”
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Ahem… Aren’t you forgetting farts and boogers?
Paramount to what?
Paramount to Miramax under Orion and next to a Fox…
I’m so glad you’re back, Max!
And its loverly to see you as well LG.
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“…and how do you like the retirement home, Grandma?”
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“Well, it’s okay, I guess, but they won’t let you fart.”
I thought circumcision was just for the Jews?
Really?
In America it’s a common practice to circumcise males at birth for cleanliness issues. Generally an uncircumcised penis is the exception not the norm, however in recent years there’s been a bit of a backlash against the idea and a lot of new parents have decided to opt out of the standard procedure. My brother and his wife being one of them.
The exception? Jings… I’d heard of Americans being circumcised but just attributed it to the fact that there was a higher Jewish population there… Needless to say, I’m surprised and feel like an actual fool now
You learn something new every day…
No need to feel foolish, there is no reason why you should know about the circumcision practices in another country!
Nope. Also for many Muslims and some African tribes as a coming-of-age thing, and nearly universal in the USA after World War II. It is not currently universal in the US, but I think it would be safe to say that more than 50% of guys your age in the US are circumcised.
I think the US practice started partly in protest of the Nazi’s using circumcision to figure out which captured US soldiers were Jewish, for ’special treatment’, and also partly because of a theory that circumcision was protective against penile cancer. Penile cancer is so rare that the jury is still out on that one. But it has since been proved that circumcision of the penis reduces a man’s risk of catching the HIV virus by 50% (!). There has also been one very recent study showing that it may reduce the risk of catching the papilloma virus.
And then some guys have to have the procedure done for medical reasons…
OK, I know to much, but you brushed against an area I teach about!
@Jane S.C. Once a teacher… Great minds think alike, or what?!
Tell me about it! I’m always handing out needless instruction. You were way more thorough but that’s more your area of expertise than mine!
I totally LOVE teaching college! I can get away with teaching things that would get my butt fired in public school!
Well, I may or may not have gotten away with my description in a high school, but no way elementary!
Since I’m teaching future health care professionals and phys ed teachers, I go all the way. Safer sex includes what to do if sharing sex toys–fun to see their expressions. “She knows what sex toys are?!?”
Then I hope you pass on that the only known case of lesbian-to-lesbian HIV was from sex toys contaminated by menstrual blood. Pretty much criminal negligence, but yet it happened. Other than that, lesbians are pretty much golden.
Or sharing needles, of course. But I am concerned with more than HIV when safer sex in concerned, so they get the full 9 yards. For example, lesbians can pass herpes as easily as any other group.
BTW, the senior citizen community is not STI-free.
Well herpes is just gross.
Most STI’s are…even the silent ones have gross complications!
Fascinating… I’d heard it was for “cleanliness,” but never knew what that meant. Thanks!
Well, aside from what VG listed so eloquently, cleanliness can also just mean cleanliness. Not having to wash that particular piece of equipment myself, my understanding is that it’s easier to clean and that little bits of… erm… “stuff” don’t get caught in there.
Say it with me: smegma.
(Made you cringe.)
*shudders* Thanks, I was trying to avoid the word (which is kinda gross in and of itself).
Oh, flashback to Red Dwarf! I think it was Lister used to always call the hologram guy Smeg Head. I miss that show, it was so weird.
I read an article the last time I was in the Doctor’s office about circumcision and HIV, I thought it was very fascinating but didn’t know how mainstream or proven the belief was until you mentioned it here. Thanks!
An interesting application of a finding from geography. They had expected the higher rates of HIV along trucking routes, but hadn’t expected the low ones in certain communities, and found that those communities circumcised the men for cultural reasons. Later studies compared the infection rate over a one-year period of HIV negative men, circumcised versus non-circumcised. Circumcision is now the most common elective procedure for adult men in Africa. But it won’t PREVENT HIV, just decrease the risk, a lot. So: ABCC!
ABCC? Always be completely condom’d?
Always Be Covering your Cock?
All Boys Cock Cutting? Maybe it’s a theme party. Like Tupperware.
I believe it stands for Abstinence, Being faithful, Condoms and Circumcision. But I like Always Be Covering your Cock better.
Get your facts out of our fun!
@ suicide blonde: I’m going to remember your slogan, next time I teach!
Very interesting, now that I’m past the “Not Jewish but still circumcised? ZOMG that’s feckin weird” reaction.
… And 50% ? Wow…
Yeah, in my 45 years I think I’ve seen 1 non-cut adult guy. It’s very much the norm at least for a couple of generations here, although I think (as mentioned) there’s been some decrease over the past couple of decades.
AC, ….
I can’t comment. Look for Seth and me talking somewhere on this thread or the lunches one
There are many men’s rights advocacy groups fighting (understandably) for intact penises and not amputating the foreskin from innocent babies. I understand the religious reason with Jews, but other than that, the reasons foisted off on parents are nonsensical.
The HIV infection rate effect has been very emphatically supported by large clinical trials. The American Association for the Advancement of Science does not publish minor studies, when it comes to medical information–they leave that for minor medical journals to do!
Which is fine for an adult to do for his own penis, but I don’t agree with doing it to a baby who has no say in the matter. I don’t care how old I am, I want a say in who is cutting off parts of my penis. I mean think about it. If you say to any guy, “Hey, we need to cut off part of your penis,” he’s gonna run screaming.
;P we don’t scream eric… we… we… Yell?
If someone is coming after my johnson with a sharp object, you’re god damn right I’m gonna scream like a little girl.
Really? I think I’d be more occupied with stopping him
Did I mention the part about running away too? LOL
I’m glad I was circumsized when I was a baby then.
That way I wouldn’t have to have it done when it would really hurt. :/
Unlike the 1960’s, circumcision is done under anesthetic. And I can speak for my father who had it done as an adult for medical reasons–he was uncomfortable for a day, then fine.
–daughters of nurses know WAAAY too much information!
Yeah, the same article I read about circumcision and STD’s also talked about a lot of the myths and misconceptions people still have about circumcision (like no anesthetic etc.) and also talked to someone who had an adult circumcision for medical reasons. I really wish I could remember what magazine it was in because it was very informative.
I have no memory of the procedure from 1960, but I bet it hurt like crazy (strangely, I don’t remember a lot from the first few years of my life, much less the first few hours, plus I was not actually very articulate at the time, so I probably couldn’t really express myself all that clearly).
I’ve heard that the Jewish bris, done with no anesthetic, is very rapid (unlike the medical procedure), and is followed by a sugar cube that was soaked in wine…which apparently stops the crying quite quickly! Babies may not be articulate, but they can let you know when they aren’t happy…
GIMME!
*offers banana bread*
-dribbles and grins stupidly-
I LOVE banana bread.
You have nooo idea.
I’m in agreement with Anniee on this one. We circ’ed our first child without really doing any research, but since then we’ve done our research and haven’t really found a good reason to do it to a baby. If an adult wants to for the HIV risk bit that VG mentioned, more power to him, but there’s not much reason to do it to a baby. Cleanliness isn’t really an issue, and botched circumcisions are more common than you might think.
I think that either way it’s a personal choice that parents need to make when they have a son. What I don’t like, and this holds true for just about any issue, is any attempt to demonize the other side. You do what you want with your kid, and I’ll do what I want with mine (within the boundaries of the law of course). I feel the same for militant breastfeeders. Whether I breastfeed or not is my business and nobody else’s. This, of course, is all hypothetical because I don’t, as yet, have children, so take it with a grain of salt.
Breastfeeding. Another topic that I’m well-versed in thanks to my wife. All I’m gonna say on that is: do your research. If you do, you’ll realize just how crappy formula is compared to breastfeeding. Uh, what I mean is it’ll help you make the right decision for you. (For a while my wife and I paid close attention to both the circumcision and breastfeeding topics when our kids were a lot younger, so I’m not just talking out of my ass here.)
On another note: Isn’t talking out of your ass tedious sometimes?
I mean really, the stench down there is terrible.
It’s really hard to do, but I studied at the Bill O’Reilly Ass Talking Institution, so I learned from the best.
Whew!!! How did you even get IN there?!
Was it on a scholarship?!
Yeah, I got it for doing so well in many of my high school classes without actually having a clue what I was talking about (that part is actually true LOL).
Oh believe me, I know all the pros to breastfeeding. However, I also know that my three young cousins all have severe milk allergies and couldn’t breastfeed. I also know that my nephew didn’t take to breastfeeding and was seriously undernourished because my brother and sister-in-law wouldn’t give up on the breastfeeding idea because she felt like a “failure” as a mother if he couldn’t breastfeed. That’s the sort of militant behavior I’m talking about.
Yeah. Practicality is key. I knew a woman who exclusively breastfed, but she had to feed the LARGE little bugger every 2 1/2 hours because she didn’t have large production capacity. He was well nourished, but she was under-slept–NOT good for mom, and therefore somewhat dangerous! Her mother had advised her to supplement feed, but nooo. Sigh.
Golly, I can’t imagine that anyone would be allergic to human breast milk, but I’m not a doctor.
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Anyhow, breastfeeding isn’t as easy and natural for everyone as some people would have it seem. Way back when everyone was breastfeeding if one woman was struggling to feed her baby there’d be another with enough milk for 10 babies who could (and would) take up the slack; these days we use formula. Bottom line is that we all know that breastfeeding is best, but getting the baby fed is the goal, and if breastfeeding isn’t working (for whatever reason) it does not mean the mother is a failure or the baby will be forever stunted.
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Oh, and I’m completely in favor of public breastfeeding (or any other activity that might display female breasts, actually). Yes, fine, I’m a pig, get over it.
There are certainly exceptions to every rule, but generally, breastfeeding allows the child to build immunities that the mother already has in her system (at least for the first 6-9 months of breastfeeding), and allows the child to bond better (some say) with the mother. I can’t speak for the bonding part, since having a full-time job kept me from actually feeding her. I had to pump and then leave bottles. But, I can speak for the health benefits, because the kid is NEVER sick. Also, there are studies that show that a woman who breastfeeds has a MUCH lower risk of breast cancer than one who isn’t able to breastfeed.
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Now, if you CAN’T breastfeed for whatever reason, then you definitely don’t need to harm the child in the process! My sister isn’t producing enough milk to keep her little bugger happy, so she has to suppliment him with some of my left over milk, formula, and cereal added to whatever she feeds him. It’s all about whats best for the baby.
Now now, we all know how important bondage is between a mother and child…
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(Sorry, sometimes I seem to have the impulse-resistance of a three-year-old. Ok, mostly I seem to have the impulse-resistance of a three-year-old. On speed.)
BOOBIES!
I’m not gonna go into huge detail, and clearly I don’t know the whole story here, but I will say that the vast majority of babies will successfully breastfeed, sometimes with help from a lactation consultant or whatever. Doctors love to push formula. My son had major reflux as a baby because we had given up breastfeeding him a couple months in and switched to formula. Formula isn’t fantastic stuff. I could find links describing how nasty that stuff is if anyone wants.
It’s pretty much mud, right? And I figure the only reason doctors push it so much (luckily, mine were pretty militant about breastfeeding) is because they get kickbacks.
Yeah. Actually that nails it.
Look, I’m not anti-breastfeeding by any means. I’m anti-sticking your nose into my life and telling me what’s best for my child. Whether I agree with it or not, formula isn’t illegal and if a parent wants to go that route for whatever reason then that’s there business and who am I to sit in judgment of them. I do know that my nephew had a lot of problems taking to breastfeeding and was in the hospital for longer because he was undernourished and I do know that my cousins had severe milk allergies. Now I have since heard that as long as the mother wasn’t drinking milk than her children should have been okay on the breast milk. I don’t know if that’s true or not or if my cousin knew about it or if it was just easier to put the girls on soy. Regardless of the reason that’s their choice to make and they shouldn’t be made to feel like a failure as a mother because they made it.
I completely agree, Jane. It’s about what’s best for the kiddo, not what is easiest. That goes both ways.
I’m not trying to suggest anyone is a failure for their parenting. I do think it’s important that people know what they’re getting into with both bf’ing and formula feeding, and they need to do their research to make the choice that’s best for the BABY.
Okay, let me give you another situation. A friend of mine has two kids, ages 2 and a half and 5 months. When she was pregnant for her first she told me she was not breastfeeding. I don’t remember why she didn’t want to, but I do know that there was no medical reason that said she couldn’t, she just chose not to do it. Do I agree with her? Well, it doesn’t really matter if I do or not, it’s not my kid. I’m not going to stand there and tell her that she’s a bad mother because she didn’t breastfeed. As a matter of fact, she’s a great mother. She loves her kids and they’re healthy and happy. Would breastmilk have been better for them? Probably. But again, formula isn’t illegal, parents are well within their rights to feed it to their kids for whatever reason.
Okay, it’s probably best if we just let this one go then, because my wife and I spent a lot of time researching and generally follow suit with the “militant” breastfeeding attitude. We’ll just agree to disagree.
I dunno… Sure it’s a parent’s choice as to whether to get some of their son’s penis cut off, but I’m still against doing it for no other reason than it being “the done thing”. I would equate it with getting the irregular bits of their daughter’s genitalia cut off, just to neaten it up a little.
There is no medical benefit to cutting girls. And all of the variations on female genital cutting have VERY significant negative sexual impact, whether done by a medical practitioner (sex-reassignment for intersex babies , for example) or not. The more extreme versions often create health damage as well.
With boys, there is some proven benefit–see above. And evidence indicates no significant impact on sexual function, so long as the procedure is done properly. Educate the parents about the science, and let them make the choice. Or let the young men make the choice. But comparing the two situations is comparing cherries with watermelons!
Thank you VG!
I believe there are folks out there who would disagree with the “no significant impact on sexual function” – apparently it causes significant desensitization – some guy even sued his parents over it. While every description of “female circumcision” I’ve heard of could only be described as mutilation and harmful, the closest equivalent I can think of would be the removal of (at least part of) the clitoral hood – would something like that be likely to have a sexual impact? I would certainly expect it to.
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Given that you can get an STD the very first time you have sex, I think education about hygiene and proper precautions make more sense than cutting away part of someone – and here’s a thought: what if the circumcised guys (in the studies) had less sex and/or fewer partners (because it was less enjoyable) and therefore had a lower incidence of STDs? Was that taken into account? I mean, I can see how having a flap of skin which generates a warm, moist, bacteria/virus-friendly environment could increase the chance of something spreading, but still. I just don’t think there’s enough evidence out there for the phrase “no significant impact on sexual function”.
In the link behind my name is a research study published in the medical journal Urology, where 42 men who were circumcised as adults for cultural purposes were studied for the impact on sexual function. The only impact witnessed was a slight “increase in latency to orgasm”. –in other words, the guys could last a bit longer before coming.
Um…that’s a bad thing how, exactly?
So long as there is good lube available, I don’t see one, myself!
You beat me again, VG!
First, I don’t consider 42 to be a significant percentage of the number of sexually-active males in the world (sorry, I just don’t). Second, you’re only supporting the theory that there’s a female conspiracy behind it. Third, my main point was that perhaps people should hesitate about the concept of cutting away part of someone’s genitalia regardless of their sex. Fourth, I would expect the increase in latency to orgasm is directly due to desensitization.
Duh. It’s always 42.
Female conspiracy? Seriously? Also, like it’s been said a couple of times, desensitization has not been proven.
You should actually read the article I linked–latency was the ONLY difference found, but not the only thing tested for. To quote: “Before circumcision, their sexual performance was evaluated with the Brief Male Sexual Function Inventory (BMSFI), consisting of sexual drive, erection, ejaculation, problem assessment, and overall satisfaction sections”. They similarly checked for the same issues after circumcision, and found only the latency to be significantly different. This was by the way done at a military hospital, and as such, they wouldn’t have an axe to grind.
And no, I am not conspiring, or even lobbying for all males to be circumcised. I am simply providing some scientific evidence which indicates that your sample of one suing teenage male might not be indicative of the situation in general.
“Ladies, remember to perform the Brief Male Sexual Function Inventory every 3 months or 3,000 miles, whichever comes first. Remember, preventive maintenance is important!”
I think bodo feels that we are being insensitive to his desensitization.
I suspect it’s a small sample because of the necessity of finding men who underwent the procedure as adults, which would be necessary for a comparison. Seems like it’s still going to be fairly subjective, anyway.
There have been other studies, but those studies were of men who had been circumcised due to medical conditions, and as such perhaps complicated by those conditions. The study I cited did refer to the possible complicating factor that young Muslim men do not consider themselves adult until they have been circumcised… The mind is the largest sexual organ, after all–why else is bodo so interested in the word ‘boobies’?!
Well, ok, the conspiracy part wasn’t serious. I have no regrets, myself, since I personally believe the brain and hormones are more important than any physical equipment when it comes to sex, but I wanted to offer some perspective.
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I remember changing my son’s diaper when a friend was there and warning her (in a teasing way) that he was uncut (she’s Jewish), only to have she and her husband (he was there too) look at each other and laugh at me (he is not Jewish). I guess it’s just one of those things that doesn’t come up frequently in conversation…
I can see where it might be a sensitive topic, lol. When my son was born, my discussion with his dad on the topic was pretty much, “Hey, I don’t have one; I’m leaving this decision up to you, expert.”
Oh, and also, the word “boobies” is completely irrelevant; it’s the sight of ‘em (preferably unmodified, but that’s just me).
Well, I guess kudos on your love for unmodified breasts then. If only because I’m a larger girl and fake boobs piss me off because I worry all guys want mine to be perky and it ain’t gonna happen.
What!?! You mean you don’t have the breasts of a full-grown-woman but with the perkiness of an 11-year-old? But, but, I thought that was how they all are? Next you’ll be telling me that there are women out there with *gasp* stretch marks! Or warts! Or moles! Or…oh, I’ve made my point? Ok, sorry, I’ll stop now. It’s just so hard when I’m such an example of physical perfection myself. Well, except for the baldness. And the glasses. And the being overweight thing. And the back hair (it’s like some ironic torment: when the hair on your head goes away it reappears somewhere you really don’t need it, like your shoulders or back – my advice, don’t go bald).
There is no such thing as a bad pair of breasts.
Apart from man breasts.
I’m pretty much with AC on this one. Although I’d still rather see real moobs than enhanced breasts – reconstruction/lifting, fine, but once they hit your chin or your armpits (while you’re standing) you’ve kinda overdone it IMO.
Jane, yay for boobies.
As far as I know that’s never been proven. Did the guy suing his parents win? Certainly we don’t have a shortage of frivolous lawsuits in this country. Also, if it was an infant circumcision, how does he know that it had an impact? I mean, what was his basis for comparison, all the fine honeys in the nursery ward? Certainly the large amount of men in this country who are circumcised manage to have enjoyable sex lives without their foreskin.
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After I typed all of this I went looking. I attached a link that’s from the mayo clinic. On the second page it talks about how circumcision does not enhance or detract from sexual pleasure.
My English bf is uncircumcized and thinks circumcision is barbaric. I guess I wouldn’t choose to have a part of me cut off either. On the other hand, he spells stuff funny so what does he know.
Hey, we have a control sample on the “desensitization” question now! So, SB….is he, um….”quicker” than circumcised guys?
No, he’s quite long lasting actually, yay for me!
Happy for you, SB!
Thanks
The downside is, we live 5,000 miles away from each other so the frequency leaves something to be desired…
Yay!
My “yay” now seems misplaced. I was not cheering the distance but the longer lasting sex.
I was guessing as much there.
Yeah I figured that Jane
I’ve heard stuff similar to what bodo here is saying. Plus, all it takes is one little mistake and a guy can go from normal to playing with an illegal curve in his stick. It happens.
What are you calling an illegal curve? I rather enjoy the curved ones……
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Wait, what?
You see what I did there? I turned discussion of how circumcision affects penile curve into a joke about NHL regulations of hockey sticks. Pretty funny, huh?
Oh, and those curved sticks are good for those hard to reach places, ifyouknowwhatimean.
Yes. Yes I do.
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*has a hubby who is blessed*
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*is blessed*
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I think an entire thread about penises (with a sidebar into breasts) has been one of the best discussions we’ve had on PK in a long while.
We need to expand that sidebar, though. LOL
Heh heh heh, you said “expand”.
That being said about curved sticks, it’s not always a good thing. A botched circ can really screw up a guy’s willy for life. Not particularly common, but it does happen.
Heh heh. Expand. But not surgically, because nothing is better than all natural, baby!
Personally I’m thinking I’m pretty much done with making dick-joke lols, but you-all feel free…perhaps this will hold us over for a while? And I recommend that one NOT look up stories about circumcision with electric scalpels. Makes zombie-nun-clowns look pretty tame, IMO. Well, unless they’ve got brains like, dribbling down their chins. I just can’t stand that (I mean, how hard is it to just use a freaking napkin? Honestly?).
And frankly any minor medical benefit to circumcising boys doesn’t beat slicing up a baby’s penis without his consent. But that’s just me.
FIRST!!!
-1 internet for deliberately trying to invoke the Ordinal Post Rule!
Um no.
GO NUNS!
GO MEAT!
Those commercials repel me, and yet…it’s catchy.
“I said a-BEEF-hot-links!”
Me too! Damn those meat merchants and their catchy jingles!
My bologna has a first name
It’s O-S-C-A-R
My bolonga has a second name
It’s M-A-Y-E-R
Oh, I love to eat it everyday
And if you ask me why I’ll saaaaaaaayyyyy
‘Cuz Oscar Mayer has a way with
B-O-L-O-G-N-A!
How’z dat?
Meaty!
Link. Male circumcision removes an intact male organ (the foreskin, which produces smegma and covers the *internal* organ of the glans) and of necessity removes sensation because it removes many many thousands of nerve endings. This is just common sense. Men have every bit as much right to be against it as women do against FGM. There is a wealth of linked information at the clearinghouse I’m recommending, but the most powerful testimonies come from men who have had their circumcisions later in life and have a basis for comparison (those done at birth do not.) Turning an internal organ (the glans) into an external one, of necessity turns it less sensitive due to constant rubbing, lack of lubrication, etc . This is a very important issue to many men.
What’s your point, aside from managing to work the word “smegma” into a coherent sentence.
Almost as much fun as using it in Scrabble, Ivan!
Actually, this is pretty much the point I was trying to make, so I’m finding no fault with this post (well, the link doesn’t seem to work, but otherwise). And there are (or were) cultures in which routine MGM (have you ever split open a hot dog the long way?) happens, but my own opinion (in a sort of clinical sense) is that the greater testosterone level in males makes up for the loss of sensitivity, so it’s not considered to be as big a deal (i. e. most guys will pretty much stick it in a tree stump, if it looks at them the right way, regardless of their penile configuration).
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(feel free to insert “checking for squirrels joke” here)
Your 15 minutes are up.
Sorry. I’ll stop now.
Hello there…
…just noticed this – has anyone else hovered over the timestamp link in the posts here?
Yes, if you copy and paste you can link directly to a specific post.
Just had a “duh” moment when I looked in the address bar (somehow “political-pictures-nuns-penis-celibacy” just struck me funny).
@Viking Gal: Thank you for your input there on oral sex (Couldn’t reply up there due to nesting)
I was referring to what I’ve seen in media, porn, and what I’ve heard in circles of male friends. And I love the way you put it: In a loving,balanced, trust and honesty built relationship, there IS nothing degrading about giving eachother pleasure.
I vanish and Max comes back… Damn.