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  1. HairySexyTroll says:

    Independents RULE!

  2. sopranomom says:

    Wow..check it out! Are those the horsemen of the appocolypse I see outside my window?

  3. factory says:

    Mmmmh, seems to be in our French Parlement/Sénat :S

  4. Eric-in-STL says:

    Meh.

  5. e says:

    What you can’t see is that he’s actually getting a blowjob from an intern; *that’s* why he can’t stand up yet…

    • tyler says:

      shhh! they shouldn’t know!
      they don’t NEED TO KNOW! they’re just the mindless sheep that give him votes, silly!

  6. PortlandMark says:

    Yeah, yeah, hahah, “politicians all suck”, I’ve heard it before.

    What kills me, in a democracy, is that we have unparalleled access to the levers of government, if we want them. Complaining about how much politicians suck is the equivalent (to pick an example from my recent past) of a 42 year old guy picking up a PSP, finding out that he’ll actually have to work to figure out how to use all those little buttons, and saying “meh, it’s a stupid game anyway”.

    I know, none of you can go tomorrow and vote on Obama’s next bill. Still, if you are really interested, some work and time will allow you to become part of the political process that helps decide who our representatives are. Be careful, though, I understand it’s both addictive and heartbreaking. Plus, there is some danger you may actually change your community for the better!

    • Or be caught in a lifeshattering scandal because you zigged instead of zagged.

      I don’t have enough homogenized and sanitized values to get elected, so I don’t bother.

      • Jimbo is bored says:

        I’m just too poor to give a damn. The government needs to get in line if they plan on screwing me too.

        • I’m already sore, you can have my turn.

        • HairySexyTroll says:

          Or at least offer k-y and reparations. Sheesh.

          • froofrou says:

            Speaking of……WTF is up with that new K-Y stuff being $23???? I wanted to try it, but I don’t want to try it $23 bad!

            • HairySexyTroll says:

              Didn’t you hear? It’s laced with friction-nubbies made of 14 karat… it’s the Goldschläger of lubricants….

              Actually I DIDN’T hear about that… I’ve not ever used it (I’m probably missing out…)

              • froofrou says:

                It’s an intensifier for the woman. I’m all about what can make it easier for me, as I’m notorious *sigh* But I’m not so desperate as to spend that much money on it when I’m not sure it will work.

                • I can’t remember if you said the Ginger worked or not…

                • bad fairie says:

                  you might try their website, sometimes companies do free samples

                • Eric-in-STL says:

                  Dude, I just had flashbacks of tongue cramps and dead taste buds for months on end. Ladies, if you like the orgasm, then Zoloft is not your friend. *shudder*

                  • charro says:

                    Most SSRIs will do that. Sadly, sometimes to be happy you have to be sexually dysfunctional.. which leads to no happiness.

                    • froofrou says:

                      I’m waiting for my “woman in the peak of virility” age 35 sexual spurt. Of course, with kids, I bet my poor hubby is screwed for a while. Or, not screwed, which is the problem.

                      • viking gal says:

                        Sleep is your friend. Maybe point that out to the hubby?
                        Speaking as a woman who is ‘past’ that peak age…I’m still peaking just fine, thanks!

                        • froofrou says:

                          He lets me sleep, it’s one of his better qualities :-) He’s amazing about getting the baby when I need a nap, or taking over from me whether I ask or not and telling me to go get some rest. The problem is that being pregnant (again, sigh) pulls me down. I have no energy. Any hints?

                        • viking gal says:

                          Your hubby sounds like a winner!
                          I’ve heard that early pregnancy is a real energy-sink. The one thing that does come to mind is that your little one to be is going to win in any tug-of-war for Calcium, iron and protein. Dreaming of steak?–it’s a sign to eat some! I’ve also heard (from a midwife) that headaches are a sign of protein-deficit. It might not be a cure-all, but paying attention to the message behind food cravings might be useful.
                          Of course if you were in the northeast, I would start asking you about allergies, because of the pollen counts–hard to get all excited when one is sneezing!

                        • froofrou says:

                          I’m lucky. No allergies whatsoever. And we eat steak probably twice a month. We’d eat it more often but we ran out of venison and there’s a recession on :-) Hubby hates watching me eat steak though. I like mine rare. Moo-ing rare. I want to try steak tartar if I can find a good recipe…….

                        • viking gal says:

                          I prefer my steak to not still be kicking and mooing, but to each her own! Just keep up with the iron and protein, somehow–ice cream, raisins, licorice…whatever is tastiest!
                          I haven’t had ’speedy beef’ in years–my father used to provide us with what we called Bambi burger, but I had to be careful about that around my veggie friend… Her loss, though!

                        • bad fairie says:

                          as long as steak doesn’t get up and walk off the plate under it’s own power, it’s cooked long enough! i like mine with a nice char on the outside, but not in more than 1/8 in or so. and must be cool on the inside ;)
                          other cravings – chocolate often is for additional fats; fruit depending on the type can be for vit’s & minerals or for water; be careful of any cravings for salting things, watch your ankles and fingers for swelling…

                          i’m happy for you and the froolet, but i’m also relieved it’s you and not me ;)

      • PortlandMark says:

        It’s not necessary to get elected. Every figurehead is supported by dozens or hundreds of people who get invited to meetings that help determine what that figurehead’s platform will be, or more specifically, the party machines determine which candidates will make a good standardbearer for the issues that are currently important. It’s not hard to get involved and make a difference at a local level, where politics has a more direct impact on your life.

        • Eric-in-STL says:

          Well, add me to the list of the heartbroken. I supported a Democratic representative with a well-known and respected name in this state (his last name was Carnahan, which everyone should remember from when Mel Carnahan beat John Ashcroft for a senate seat FROM THE GRAVE here in Missouri, but this wasn’t Mel we’re talking about). I went door to door for this guy, and after he gets elected, he totally flip flops on issues I supported. So I felt betrayed, but surprised. I’m never voting for him again.

          My wife more recently supported her doctor’s wife who was running for Missouri treasurer as well. Sadly, she didn’t win the primary. She would’ve been good for the job. Unfortunately, I don’t think this ass backwards state is ready for a black jewish woman treasurer…or black jewish woman anything. My state sucks.

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            Is Missouri a conservative state generally? My state of Indiana is and I’ve noticed that our senator who is a Democrat pretty much aligns himself with our Republican one, which is the only way a Democrat is going to get elected in Indiana.

    • froofrou says:

      I just wish people had longer memories than they do. Having an attention span of a drunken 2 year old is enough to keep ineffective people in Congress for 100 years, instead of being voted out in favor of a better guy the next time around. Or perhaps not a better guy (or gal), but at least a different one who will try something that hasn’t been done and been failing for the last 30 years. TERM LIMITS, UNITE!!!! Or something :-)

      • Whut was that u sed about drunken… ;)

        • froofrou says:

          Drunken, pot-laced 2 year old with ADHD has a better chance of paying attention to the issues older than last week. :-)

          • HairySexyTroll says:

            Last week ah…. I uh, I, yeah!

            Get that g-d toddler out of the way of my kegger, dammit!

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            A small amount of pot can be very good for ADHD, actually. ;)

            • HairySexyTroll says:

              A small amount of pot can be very good for HST-ME, too ;)

              I can has prescription?

            • froofrou says:

              Drunken and pot-laced with a pot and LSD mix?

            • Eric-in-STL says:

              She uses the winky, but I knew someone when I worked at Jack in the Box overnights who did exactly that. And it worked great, much to my surprise. I could tell when he *hadn’t* been smoking because he sucked at his job all night. I wasn’t a big fan of people getting high on my watch, but in his case, I just kinda let it slide. :-\

      • Jimbo is bored says:

        Why would we untie term limits? I didn’t realize they needed to be untangled so badly…

      • Jane St.Clair says:

        I agree 100%!

        • froofrou says:

          *gently directs Jane away from the Right* Now, Jane, you know that you’re a Wingnut Liberal. You need to stay over there with your craz……with your people so that they can feed you……. ;-)

          • *takes Jane back to office for meeting*

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            Liberals want career politicians that will throw their own mother under the bus just to get reelected? Who knew? Seriously though, we have term limits on presidents, if you truly are getting into politics because you want to help people (and they all say that) then serving for a few terms and letting someone else have a chance makes sense. If they have limited time in office they might work a little harder to actually get something done.

            • froofrou says:

              Well, considering that our Commander in Chief gently threw his grandmother under the bus when he needed to (back in his (first?) book), then I think all politicians, regardless of party, will do it.
              -
              I completely agree with you though. If you’re really in it for the right reasons, why do you need to stay there for 30 years? Get in, do the right thing, get out, and if you want to go back later, let the people decide that in another election at least one to two terms later.

              • Jane St.Clair says:

                I think people get addicted to the position, they like the feeling of power, and that is the absolutely worse thing for the regular joe voting them in. Also, maybe if we had new people coming in on a regular basis it would force voters to do their homework on the candidates a little bit more, instead of just voting complacently.
                -
                I’m totally going to ignore your first comment because you’re baiting me and I like you too much to get into a cat fight with you. ;) Besides, since I’ve retired my claws and started ignoring certain people who deserve them I’ve had a much more zen like PK experience. It’s nice.

                • froofrou says:

                  I was rebaiting to your original baiting comment, hehehe. I don’t ignore certain posters who should know better, but they don’t get my goat anymore. I simply laugh at their silly attempts to make a point, and laugh some more when they get all pissy and start calling names and throwing poo. :-)
                  -
                  I once dated a guy who is the son of a State Rep where I live. The SR is a very nice guy, has the kind of morals I respect, does his best to use the power he has to help out his district…….but, he’s been there for too long and isn’t doing anyone any good anymore. Also, I kept getting pissed at the fact that during role call on the House floor, they had a bunch of pages down there pushing the little “present” button for them because 90% of the Reps were not even there yet. Ditto on the voting and other important things. Sh!t like that completely takes away my faith in government. Being able to see it from the inside really takes away your innocence.

                  • Jane St.Clair says:

                    Ah, my temper gets the best of me, I’m afraid. I’m tempted sometimes but overall I’m much happier having separated myself from the issue.
                    -
                    So it’s been a number of years since I’ve seen it but this reminds me of the Eddie Murphy movie The Distinguished Gentleman because he’s a total con artist and he ends up being the most honest guy there. Also, the way he won is that he changed his name to match a dead congressman and people just voted him in on name recognition.

                    • Jane St.Clair says:

                      The issue of ignoring people, that is.

                    • froofrou says:

                      I’ve always liked the movie “Dave”. I know it would NEVER happen, but the thought of an actual guy in the White House who isn’t a career politician and who really wants to clean up the mess is refreshing. We need that in Congress.

                      • Jane St.Clair says:

                        Oh I love that movie too, it’s so cute and sweet. I like when he brings his accountant friend in to clean up the budget.

                    • I need to see that one again. All I can remember is one scene where he is asked to discuss the bill he just voted for to a bunch of kids.

                      • Jimbo is bored says:

                        Quit gettin along and arguing about issues! That is not how politics is played around here. Start calling each other names and questioning each other’s completely fabricated record like the honest politicians do! Do not make me formally send you a completely useless letter of reprimand!

          • Eric-in-STL says:

            Being in favor of term limits is a right wing thing? I didn’t know it was really a partisan issue. I thought it was a matter of people being in favor of it if they didn’t like who kept getting re-elected.

            • froofrou says:

              I personally think that third parties should be brought into Congress for votes on things like pay increases and term limits. We can’t let the foxes control the henhouse on important things like that.

              • viking gal says:

                But how do we choose those third parties? Because the Board members in large corporations obviously didn’t do the job in keeping CEO salaries matching with actual corporation successes in the past few years! We can’t have former congresspersons or lobbyists making those decisions!

                • froofrou says:

                  I haven’t come up with a good solution to that yet. When I do, I’ll take over the woyald :-)
                  -
                  Honestly, there isn’t a good answer. But having these idiots vote on their own pay raises is just silly. Maybe we should do it like California did last week, and send it to the people. I love that California said that their state legislators aren’t allowed pay raises of any kind while the state is in deficit. That’s how it needs to go.

                  • the_original_shortright says:

                    they need to get the laid off line workers from GM, chrysler, etc to be the third party. or the working mother of 3 who can’t pay for food because she’s making hardly above minimum wage.

                    it irks me to see these people (i’m using a VERY broad brush) who have a ton of money, as evidenced by tons of campaign posters and commercials, get a job in congress and then get a salary WAY above that of their average constituent. you can’t possibly convince me that a kennedy needs a congress persons salary… they’re kinda set for life. most of those rich old bastards are set.

                    maybe each congress person should be paid the same as the average pay of their constituents. the guy from rural michigan would be making like $1.75/year and the guy from NYC would make quite a bit more… but then at least they’re in touch with their people and understand what it’s like to live on that sort of income. if the guy representing rural michigan is making in the 100s then there’s no way he understands what it’s like for his constituents.

                    /ramble
                    /rant

      • AC says:

        “A change o’ deils is lichtsome…”

      • Seth says:

        I agree. The original conception of holding political office was that it was a service you performed for your country, a duty. You did it a few times and then went about your business, and back then you weren’t likely to gain too much from your connections because communications and transportation were so slow.

        Now people treat politics as a career, and when they are done, they turn their political connections into money. If the founding fathers had foreseen that, they would have put in something to stop it right off the bat.

        • froofrou says:

          Jefferson spins as we speak.

          • Jane St.Clair says:

            *points at Seth* See, see! He’s a lefty too!
            -
            Also, that made me think “As Jefferson Spins” which sounds like a gruesome soap opera.

            • froofrou says:

              I’m not sure if you guys are thinking more like me, or if I’m thinking more like you. Either thing scares me :-) *checks the temperature of the floor tiles*

              • Jane St.Clair says:

                No, no, no! We’re “reaching across the aisle”! WE should be in charge of the country, think how much we’d get done!

                • froofrou says:

                  We’d get bogged down in the details. Like what color tassels to wear on Thursdays, or should the Raging 2×4 of Death be administered to the head or the legs, and should we sneak up behind them or let them see us coming. Plus, you’d be all busy trying to spin President Nexus’ dalliances into something that sounds a little better than “President Nexus kissed a girl, and he liked it.” ;-)

                  • Jane St.Clair says:

                    Well it’d hardly be the Raging 2 x 4 of Death if we administered it to the legs, more like the Raging 2 x 4 of Shattered Kneecaps, which still has some merit, I say.

                  • the_original_shortright says:

                    thursday is blue. i thought you got that memo?

                    monday is red
                    tuesday is pink
                    wednesday is black
                    thursday is blue
                    friday is green
                    saturday is white
                    sunday is gold

                    • Jane St.Clair says:

                      But sadly, nothing gold can stay…

                      • the_original_shortright says:

                        well… tassels are optional on sunday too… we just don’t make that public knowledge because then there’d be a huge PR disaster “president’s staff participates in topless sunday”.

          • Seth says:

            You know, we should build a Founding Father’s Flywheel and harness some of this rotational energy. The more the country goes downhill, the more free energy we get!

        • Goosef says:

          AMEN to that Seth!

    • Goosef says:

      Portland Mark the problem with your thinking is that the politicians don’t care what WE think anymore. They vote the way the guys on K street tell them to, because the guys on K street pay for their re-election campaigns. The K street lobbyists and lawyers are making billions off of a broken tax code, and they are more than willing to spread that wealth around to get their own ideals made into law. That’s part of what the TEA parties were about, vote all the bums out, get new everything and then give them term limits.

      • PortlandMark says:

        If you don’t like it, get involved at the local level. It’s hard to have an individual effect at the national level because you’re one person of 300 million or so Americans, but you can have an effect at the local level. Join the party of your choice and start attending meetings. See what work you can do to motivate your local area to move in the direction you want.

    • Wesley B. says:

      Close, but the actual sentiment seems not to be “ALL politicians suck,’ but rather “EVERYONE ELSE’S politicians suck.”

      That is why Congress had a 9 to 11% national approval rating heading into the 2008 elections, but had something like 94% incumbency re-election rate.
      Everyone votes their own guy back in because he’s bribing them or they are too lazy to study the alternatives (“our guy’s one of the few good ones up there!”), and then tells everyone else that they should vote their guy out (“it’s everyone else that’s the problem”).

      What a system!

  7. Dexaan says:

    Brb, making peace with my god.

  8. Notolaf says:

    That’s not a politician, that’s his house elf “saving his seat!”

  9. Anniee451 says:

    Breaking News – Pelosi shuts off the lights and shuts down congress AGAIN when discussing important matters. Lone congressman stays in protest.


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