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Look… other than 9/11, we kept America safe from terrorist attacks. Look at all the attacks that didn’t happen after that.
Also, no Americans were eaten by dragons during our administration. We should get props for that, too.
(Dick Cheney)
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FIRST
Science, discoveries, inventions, and innovations
* First woman officially recognized for a scientific position: Caroline Herschel, as astronomer Sir William Herschel’s assistant, 1787
* First comet discovered by a woman: Discovered by Caroline Herschel, August 1, 1786
* First permanent photograph: View from the Window at Le Gras, taken by Nicéphore Niépce, June or July, 1826 or 1827.
* First permanent color photograph: Tartan Ribbon, taken by James Clerk Maxwell, 1861.
* First successful creation of soda water: by Joseph Priestley, 1796
* First skyscraper – Woolworth Building, New York City, 57 floors high (792 feet or 241 meters), opened on April 24, 1913.
* First steerable balloon (also known as a dirigible): By Henri Giffard, 1852.
* First tethered balloon for passengers: developed by Henri Giffard in the Tuileries Garden in Paris. 1878.
* First man-made object to reach the stratosphere: Shell fired from the Paris Gun, used during World War I.
* First picture taken of the Earth’s curvature: By Alexander Dahl travelling in an open hydrogen gas balloon. August 31, 1933.
* First sound recording: A part of Au Clair de la Lune, recorded by Leon Scott in 1860. Note that there was neither any contemporary technology nor intention to play the recorded sound.
* First playback of recorded sound: Mary had a little lamb, by Thomas Edison in 1877.
Natural history
* First homo sapiens: the Omo Remains include Omo I, the earliest known fossils of Homo sapiens (idaltu), dated to around 190,000 years ago.[2] This is considerably older than the 160,000-year-old Herto remains, which had been thought to be the earliest humans, and suggests that, if humans did originate in Africa as is currently thought, they did not expand from there for much longer than previously thought.
* First European child born in the New World: Snorri Thorfinnsson
* First observed transit of a planet across the sun, Mercury, by Pierre Gassendi in 1631.
* First planet discovered by mathematical prediction (as opposed to regular observation): Neptune in September 23, 1846
* First international scientific collaboration: Observation of the transit of Venus 1761 and 1769
* First confirmation of extrasolar planets: Three bodies orbiting PSR B1257+12 by Aleksander Wolszczan and Dale Frail in 1992.
* First confirmation of an active volcanic eruption occurring on a seamount: by scientists at the University of Hawai‘i on Lo‘ihi in 1996
Life sciences
For a list of firsts in organ transplants, see Organ transplant#Timeline of successful transplants
* First vaccination: smallpox, Edward Jenner, 1796
* First whole-body scanner and x-ray machine: Dayton Miller (Case School of Applied Science), Cleveland, Ohio, 1896
* First blood transfusion: conducted by Dr. George Crile, Cleveland, Ohio (1905)
* First “test-tube baby”: Louise Brown, born July 25, 1978 in England.
* First official recognition of AIDS: Centers for Disease Control issued a report describing five cases in Los Angeles. June 5, 1981
* First person to be convicted by the process of DNA fingerprinting: Colin Pitchfork. 1988
* First person to be exonerated by the process of DNA fingerprinting: Richard Buckland. 1988
* First cloned animal: an Asian carp cloned in China by Tong Dizhou, 1963.
* First mammal cloned from a somatic cell: Dolly, a sheep born on July 5, 1996.
* First cloned camel: Injaz, born April 8, 2009, in Dubai.
* First cloned dog: Snuppy, an Afghan hound, born April 24, 2005, cloned by a team of 45 led by Hwang Woo-Suk.
* First face transplant: Isabelle Dinoire, November 5, 2005.
* First person to have both a mother and father who have travelled into space: Elena Andrianovna, daughter of Valentina Tereshkova and Andriyan Nikolayev.
Human heart
* First heart defibrillation: conducted by Dr. Claude Beck, Cleveland, Ohio (1947)
* First artificial pacemaker implant into a human: By a Swedish team using a pacemaker designed by Rune Elmqvist working under the direction of Åke Senning, 1958. The patient was Arne Larsson.
* First coronary artery bypass surgery: conducted by Dr. Rene Favaloro, Cleveland, Ohio (1967)
* First heart transplant: By a team led by Dr. James Hardy at the University of Mississippi Medical Center in Jackson, Mississippi, where a chimpanzee heart was transplanted in to a human. 1964.
* First human-to-human heart transplant: By Christiaan Barnard at Groote Schuur Hospital, from donor Denise Darvall in to Louis Washkansky. December 3, 1967.
* First artificial pacemaker implant into an infant: Into Jason A. Haines when he was 16 hours old, July 26, 1974.
Commodities
* First bottled food: in 1809 the French confectioner Nicolas Appert developed a method of vacuum-sealing food inside glass jars
* First canned food: issued by the French Army
* First can-opener: invented 30 years after the first canned food
Traffic lights
* First traffic lights installed (gas lamp) : outside Houses of Parliament, London. December 10, 1868
* First traffic lights installed (electric) : by Salt Lake City policeman Lester Wire. 1912
* First traffic signal system installed: by the American Traffic Signal Company on the corner of 105th Street and Euclid Avenue in Cleveland, Ohio. August 5, 1914
* First three-color traffic lights installed: in New York and Detroit. 1920
* First automatic traffic lights installed: in Wolverhampton, England. 1927
Nuclear weapons
* First nuclear weapon detonation: Atom bomb named “The gadget” during the “Trinity test” near Alamogordo, New Mexico, July 16, 1945
* First nuclear weapon detonation used in war: Atom bomb named “Little Boy” during World War II on Hiroshima, Japan, August 6, 1945
Information and communications technology
* Communication satellite firsts: Main article: List of communications satellite firsts
* First telecommunications system: Claude Chappe’s semaphore lines. Between Paris and Lille in 1792
* First telephone message: Alexander Graham Bell in 1876: “Mr. Watson—come here—I want to see you.”[3]
* First official adhesive postage stamp: The Penny Black, 1 May, 1840
* First trans-Atlantic wireless signal: the letter “S” in Morse code, by Guglielmo Marconi, sent from Poldhu, Cornwall, to St. John’s, Newfoundland, 12 December, 1901
Computers, the Internet, and the World Wide Web
* First case of an algorithm written for a computer: Ada Byron’s notes on the analytical engine written in 1842
* First programmer: Ada Lovelace (1815-1852)
* First programmable digital computer: Z3, 1941
* First programmable electronic computer: Colossus, 1943
* First all electronic computer system that worked and continued to work for a decade ENIAC Unveiled 1946
* First e-mail: started around 1965
* First e-mail spam: sent using CTSS MAIL about 1971
* First video game console: Magnavox Odyssey, 1975
* First reigning monarch to e-mail: sent by Queen Elizabeth II from a British army base in 1976
* First e-commerce business Boston Computer Exchange uploads database of computers for sale to Delphi online service March 4, 1983
* First e-mail correspondence between heads of government: Carl Bildt (Sweden) and Bill Clinton (United States) in 1992
* First book about the web: Whole Internet User’s Guide and Catalog (1992) by Ed Krol, had a whole chapter devoted to the web
* First web portal to do advertising: Global Network Navigator founded by Tim O’Reilly and Dale Dougherty, 1993
* First advertisement on the internet: by Heller, Ehrman, White and McAuliffe on the Global Network Navigator website, 1993
* First usage of a webcam: Trojan room coffee pot, 1991
* First photographic image on the Web: Les Horribles Cernettes, 1992
* First electronic payment over the Internet: PaySafe, 1992
* First instant messaging service: ICQ released in November, 1996[dubious – discuss]
* First general Internet elections: Estonian parliamentary election, 2007
Sports
* First person to drive an automobile across the US in winter and from New York City to Paris France winning The Great Auto Race 22,000 mile course in 169 days/13,341 miles driven: George Schuster, (1908)
* First human to run a mile under 4 minutes: Roger Bannister, (1954)
* First person to swim the English Channel: Matthew Webb, (1875)
* First woman to swim the English Channel: Gertrude Ederle, (1926)
* First person to complete a long distance swim in all 5 oceans of the world: Lewis Gordon Pugh, (2005/2006)
* First free diver to descend 100 metres (330 ft) in water: Jacques Mayol, November 23, 1976
* First Olympian disqualified for drug use: Hans-Gunnar Liljenwall at the 1968 Summer Olympics
* First bungee jump: by four members of the Dangerous Sports Club led by David Kirke, from the 250ft Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol. 1 April, 1979
* First woman to bicycle around the world: Annie Londonderry, (1895)
* First auto race in the United States: Held on the grounds of Belcourt Castle, Newport, Rhode Island, 1899
* First black person to coach a professional ice hockey team: John Paris Jr. of the International Hockey League’s Atlanta Knights (1994).
Football
* First football player to be knighted: Sir Stanley Matthews, (1965)
* First football player to take a penalty in a penalty shootout: George Best, in the semi-finals of the Watney Cup, England (1970)
* First football player to miss a penalty in a penalty shootout: Dennis Law, in the semi-finals of the Watney Cup, England (1970)
* First major football tournament to be settled by a penalty shootout – UEFA European Football Championship 1976, Czechoslovakia vs. West Germany (a penalty score of 5-3 respectively)
* First football World Cup match to be decided by a penalty shootout: the 1982 semi-finals between West Germany and France (a penalty score of 5-4 respectively)
* First football World Cup final match to be decided by a penalty shootout: 1994 final between Brazil and Italy, at Pasadena, California (a penalty score of 3-2 respectively).
Culture
* First man or woman in mythology: see First man or woman
* First person to wear a modern bikini: Micheline Bernardini. July 5, 1946
* First officially recorded instance of wearing of high heels: Catherine de’ Medici, Queen of France, on her wedding. October 28, 1533
* First person to make a television broadcast from space: Andriyan Nikolayev, August 1962.
Film
* First film ever made: Roundhay Garden Scene, filmed on October 14, 1888[citation needed]
* First feature-length film: The Story of the Kelly Gang, 1906[citation needed]
* First feature-length sound film: The Jazz Singer, 1927
* First black-and-white film to be colorized: Topper in 1985 (the original film was released in 1937)
* First lesbian-themed film: Mädchen in Uniform directed by Leontine Sagan and scriptwritten by Christa Winsloe. Germany, 1931
* First woman to appear nude in a motion picture: Audrey Munson as a sculptor’s model in Inspiration, 1915[citation needed]
* First nude scene in German filmmaking: Performed by Hildegard Knef for the character of Marina in Die Sünderin (The Sinner), 1950
* First feature-length computer-generated imagery film: Toy Story, 1995
* First fictional feature film shot with a mobile phone to premiere at major film festivals: Why Didn’t Anybody Tell Me It Would Become This Bad in Afghanistan, 2007
* First actor to portray Superman on screen: Kirk Alyn in the movie serial Superman. 1948.
Literature
* First novel in English: Several works of literature have each been claimed as the first novel in English. See First novel in English.
* First novel about invasion: The Battle of Dorking (1871), by George Tomkyns Chesney.
* First novel about spies: The Riddle of the Sands (1903), by Erskine Childers or The Spy, by James Fennimore Cooper (1821) (depends on your source and interpretation).
* First novel whose manuscript was type written: Life on the Mississippi (published 1883) by Mark Twain.
* First American novel: The Power of Sympathy, by William Hill Brown.
* First realistic novel[citation needed] and first novel in Spanish: Don Quixote, by Miguel de Cervantes
Music
* First woman to write a #1 Country Music hit: Jenny Lou Carson – 1945 “You Two-time Me Once Too Often”.
Human to exceed Mach 1 under land speed record conditions – Andy Green, UK, driving Thrust SSC, which can be seen in the transport museum in Coventry, England, along with Thrust 2.
Touché sir, touché.
I throughly enjoyed your name “IvanTheMildlyAnnoying” lulz
Why, thank you.
Actually, I like it a lot too, I’m just not as on the ball with telling you. /sheepish
I just assumed nobody “got” it. Thank you VP Jane.
Love, Ivan
Personal Assistant to President DWN
AKA Secret Torture Minion
Well, actually, Charro is VP, I’m just the press secretary and administer of the People’s Breasts. But you’re welcome anyway!
Ivan is my personal assistant and Charro is VP so I assume she will get a PA in her own sweet time. Meanwhile, Ivan, fetch the ropes! We have a meeting to attend.
Fetching! Shall I bring the fir-lined handcuffs as well?
Could I get mine lined with blue spruce instead?
He can bring both.
D’Oh! Fur. I know. Never post hung over.
Although wooden handcuffs could be an interesting craft project.
Yes, but one would most likely do better with the hardwoods. I have mahogany. *leer*
What did I tell you Ivan?
No biting or molesting women until after you have them secured. Then… You can go about your business.
Sorry My Lord. I just get all out giddy when they struggle and ALMOST get away. *sigh* I’ll do better.
My apologies to you and VP Charro. You may both spank me.
I almost went with “SirNotAppearingInThisFilm” but I thought it might be too obscure…
Monti Python ik deh Holi Grail ref!
More like Dousche’ sir, Dousche’
If you don’t get the joke, you should stay out of it.
He blinded me with science!
Library science?
True, but it is science history!
Thomas Dolby reference, FTW!!
I guess Thomasina Dolby in my version?
i didn’t think it was fair to post the ordinal rule trivia on yourself?
Mibbae aye, mibbae nay. But I posted ordinal rule trivia on the OP anyway
nice.
First ever internet post to bore someone to death – see above
I thought it was funny. GazUtd RIP?
And now I am going to haunt your ass!!
(Much like someone is doing to me, although it could be that Indian I had last night)
No, the Indian isn’t haunting you, that moaning is because he wants you to untie him now.
i do not want untied! that isn’t what causes the moaning
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unless you’ve you’ve got a southeast asian in another room i don’t know about?
eaten by a dragon… seems to be a reference to south park
This is the same reasoning as Lisa’s tiger-repellant rock for Homer….
That was the first thing I thought of when I seen the pic, never mind the caption.
“I’d like to buy your rock!”
Clinton:
Oct. 12, 2000 – A terrorist bomb damages the destroyer USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39.
Aug. 7, 1998 – Terrorist bombs destroy the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 291 killed, and over 5,000 are wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen is wounded among the 10 killed and 77 injured.
In response, on August 20 the United States attacked targets in Afghanistan and Sudan with over 75 cruise missiles fired from Navy ships in the Arabian and Red seas. About 60 Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired from warships in the Arabian Sea. Most struck six separate targets in a camp near Khost, Afghanistan. Simultaneously, about 20 cruise missiles were fired from U.S. ships in the Red Sea striking a factory in Khartoum, Sudan, which was suspected of producing components for making chemical weapons.
June 21, 1998 – Rocket-propelled grenades explode near the U.S. embassy in Beirut.
July 27, 1996 – A pipe bomb explodes during the Olympic games in Atlanta, killing one person and wounding 111.
June 25, 1996 – A bomb aboard a fuel truck explodes outside a U.S. air force installation in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. 19 U.S. military personnel are killed in the Khubar Towers housing facility, and 515 are wounded, including 240 Americans.
Nov. 13, 1995 – A car-bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills seven people, five of them American military and civilian advisers for National Guard training. The “Tigers of the Gulf,” “Islamist Movement for Change,” and “Fighting Advocates of God” claim responsibility.
April 19, 1995 – A car bomb destroys the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding over 600.
February 1993 – A bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York’s World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042.
Dec. 21, 1988 – A bomb destroys Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. All 259 people aboard the Boeing 747 are killed including 189 Americans, as are 11 people on the ground.
April 1986 – An explosion damages a TWA flight as it prepares to land in Athens, Greece. Four people are killed when they are sucked out of the aircraft.
April 5, 1986 – A bomb destroys the LaBelle discotheque in West Berlin. The disco was known to be frequented by U.S. servicemen. The attack kills one American and one German woman and wounds 150, including 44 Americans
In response, on April 15 the United States retaliated in an operation dubbed ‘El Dorado Canyon.’ Approximately 100 aircraft were launched in direct support of the raid. It was an attack against military targets involving land-based bombers from Great Britain together with carrier-based air strikes from ships in the Gulf of Sidra.
December 1985 – Simultaneous suicide attacks are carried out against U.S. and Israeli check-in desks at Rome and Vienna international airports. 20 people are killed in the two attacks, including four terrorists.
November 1985 – Hijackers aboard an Egyptair flight kill one American. Egyptian commandos later storm the aircraft on the isle of Malta, and 60 people are killed.
October 1985 – Palestinian terrorists hijack the cruise liner Achille Lauro (in response to the Israeli attack on PLO headquarters in Tunisia) Leon Klinghoffer, an elderly, wheelchair-bound American, is killed and thrown overboard.
August 1985 – A car bomb at a U.S. military base in Frankfurt, Germany kills two and injures 20. A U.S. soldier murdered for his identity papers is found a day after the explosion.
June 1985 – A TWA airliner is hijacked over the Mediterranean, the start of a two-week hostage ordeal. The last 39 passengers are eventually released in Damascus after being held in various locations in Beirut.
June 1985 – In San Salvador, El Salvador, 13 people are killed in a machine gun attack at an outdoor café, including four U.S. Marines and two American businessmen.
April 1985 – A bomb explodes in a restaurant near a U.S. air base in Madrid, Spain, killing 18, all Spaniards, and wounding 82, including 15 Americans.
November 1984 – A bomb attack on the U.S. embassy in Bogota, Colombia kills a passer-by. The attack was preceded by death threats against U.S. officials by drug traffickers.
October 1983 – A suicide car bomb attack against the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut kills 241 servicemen. A simultaneous attack on a French base kills 58 paratroopers.
April 1983 – A suicide car bombing against the U.S. embassy in Beirut kills 63, including 17 Americans.
What No Mos saying Annoying Ivan, is that the terrorist attack on 9/11 had its roots in the Clinton administration, and the Clinton administration has as much, or if not more responsibility for 9/11 than the Bush administration.
What NO MO is in fact saying is this…
“Hello, I am a Conservative Jackass. Despite the fact that we are greedy ignorant morons who only want to see the poor alive when they are wiping our asses, we still believe that we are kind loving people.
We never pay attention to fact, preferring to believe that the utter tripe we speak is true. It does not matter if you prove beyond any doubt that what we say is factually incorrect, that does not count, we are right and you are wrong.
Even though people like Bill O’Reilly could be proven clinically insane we still hold them up as some sort of God, which by the way we believe in as well. Our God is an all-loving God who does not wish harm on anyone, unless that anyone is poor or doesn’t agree with us in which case God says we can torture and murder them.
In conclusion I am right and you are wrong, now give me your money.”
What GazUtd appears to be saying is this:
“tl;dr”
Oh that’s not fair. They also like to see the poor alive (at least briefly) when they serve as cannon fodder.
Yes, without the poor, who would fight the rich’s very expensive wars for them?
Robots?
They’re working on that.
or small piglets, they’re trying to get rid of the robots. They want to avoid the whole “machine’s ruling us all” thing.
Since today seems to be unofficial “fact” day, let’s have another: the Clinton administration was in place from 1993-2001. As No-Mo’s list of terrorist attacks against American institutions predates that by 10 years, with 90% of the listed incidents occurring before Clinton came to power, maybe we need to look for another scapegoat.
MAYBE we need to examine America’s foreign policies and foreign relations for the last 50, 100 or even 200 years and ask ourselves what Americans might be inclined to do had they been subject to same. Maybe American’s could do with a refresher course in the Golden Rule.
Meanwhile, IMO, the quips attached to the Cheney pic are close enough to what he actually says that, sadly, it’s hard to laugh at them.
I have to say that I’m impressed. Normally, the “blame America” crowd is afflicted with post-WWII historic myopia, but you’ve really reset the bar. Clearly, the seeds of hate laid 200 years ago, during America’s adventures in the Napoleonic Wars (which are so well documented I won’t detail them here), have laid the seeds for what we now reap.
I think he was referring to the genocide of the Native Americans 200+ years ago, Dhoti, not the Napoleonic Wars. More recently, it was our string of atrocities in Central and South America. In our hemisphere, generally, if you elect a socialist, we will try to kill him and replace him with a tyrant of our choosing.
Silly me, assuming he was actually trying to stay on topic. Or you, for that matter.
He was on topic, but if you were assuming that he wasn’t, why mention the Napoleonic Wars? How are wars we didn’t fight in relevant to the consequences of our foreign policy, which is what we were discussing?
It’s like you aren’t even thinking about what you write, you just dash off some sort of absurd non sequitur hoping that the less intelligent will accept it as a legitimate rebuttal.
Kind of like how you reflexively spit out the same lies, in hopes thread skimmers or the less intelligent will accept them as truth if you repeat them often enough? No, I’m sure you wouldn’t know anything about that.
But, very well, if you’re insisting on hand-holding (again) — how do our “foreign policies and foreign relations” from the last 100 to 200 years have anything to do with the list of incidents No Mo posted? The Indian wars are about as relevant to, say, the Khobar Towers bombing as the Napoleonic Wars, which was my point. The “America does bad things, therefore bad things happen to America” generalization is lazy and broadly indefensible.
What lies? Cite or shut up.
Let me quote the relevant passage: “MAYBE we need to examine America’s foreign policies and foreign relations for the last 50, 100 or even 200 years and ask ourselves what Americans might be inclined to do had they been subject to same. Maybe American’s could do with a refresher course in the Golden Rule.”
He is asking: what would we have done if we had been treated as we have treated others over the last 200 years?
I swear it’s like trying to explain things to a brain dead chimp.
I swear it’s like trying to explain things to a brain dead chimp.
Oh my goodness! That’s the answer!
You’re not much better yourself, Captain Rhetoric. I’ll ask again, slowly and more clearly this time: what actions, exactly, are you referring to, and how do they directly relate to the items on No Mo’s list? Be specific; you can do that, right?
You seem to be unclear on the concept of the explanation. Simply repeating your personal political dogma, then falling back on smug personal attacks when challenged, doesn’t count as an explanation. It does, however, make it clear that your mind’s made up emotionally rather than logically. (Cue the “I know you are, but what am I?” retort, I’m sure.)
Lies, huh? How about the personal attacks in your last two posts? Or is that okay, because you don’t “feel like” defending what “everyone” knows?
Wait, are you honestly claiming that America has not done anything wrong over the last 200 years?
wowowowowowowow
he only wants you to be specific. Is that hard?
I can think of many things america has done wrong, but I won’t say their names.
Why did this nest above Seth?
never mind that last part
Of course not — but that’s why I asked you to be specific. Obviously, you can’t do that. And if you can’t quote specifics, then you must be debating irrationally on an emotional generalization. I’m glad we agree on that point.
Here we go. It’s a long list, but it only goes back 120 years. And it only lists military intervention, not coups and so forth.
SOUTH DAKOTA 1890 (-?) Troops 300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded Knee.
ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected.
CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated.
IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners’ strike.
HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War
KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in Seoul during war.
PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in Colombian province.
NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto.
CHINA 1898-1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos
CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base.
PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues.
GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use as base.
MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.
NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over succession to throne.
NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields.
IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies Coeur d’Alene mining region.
OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek Indian revolt.
PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone 1914.
HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution.
KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election.
NICARAGUA 1907 Troops “Dollar Diplomacy” protectorate set up.
HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua
PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest.
NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election.
HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought guerillas
MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners’ strike by Army.
MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists.
HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation.
CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate.
WORLD WAR I 1917-18 Naval, troops Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years.
RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight Bolsheviks
PANAMA 1918-20 Troops “Police duty” during unrest after elections.
HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign.
YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists.
WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army intervenes against mineworkers.
TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in Smyrna.
CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during nationalist revolt.
HONDURAS 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during election strife.
PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike.
CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed throughout the country.
EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships send during Marti revolt.
WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
WORLD WAR II 1941-45 Naval, troops, bombing, nuclear Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germay for 3 years; first nuclear war.
DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put down Black rebellion.
IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov’t nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba’ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal’s return.
INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; “carpet-bombs” countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gas captured ship, 28 die in copter crash.
ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions.
GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov’t.
BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war.
LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ 1990-? Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; no-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south, large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Marines at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be “terrorist” nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ 1998-? Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi’ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, covert operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes and Cruise missile attacks against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against “pirates” and insurgents.
SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
Jings…
So you read one part of my question and eventually got around to responding, albeit poorly — good, that’s an improvement. (I’d ask you to clarify the difference between “something wrong” and a military intervention, and the difference between the military and the National Guard, but we’ll stick with baby steps for now.)
Now, the second half of my question — how do they relate? You *do* understand that posting a big block of text is insufficent, right? Again, be specific, if you can.
How do those things relate to WHAT, exactly, Dhoti? NO_MO_BAMA’s original nonsensical list? Why people around the world dislike us now?
We’re imperialists with a history of attacking other countries preemptively to protect our interests. How can you not understand how that might make us unpopular? I mean, “We attack people unprovoked, and people don’t like us because of that,” isn’t clear enough for you?
You may be surprised to find out that conversations don’t always stay exactly on the course you would want them to. They meander around, people make various points, and discus various tangents.
Seth, what is it about the phrase “be specific” that vexes you so? Do you not grasp that I’m asking you to show how your generalizations derive from the facts at hand? You seem to be vaguely getting it, so I’ll assume you’re simply unwilling to explain yourself rather than mentally unable.
And that “nonsensical list” comment backs me up rather nicely. You can’t be bothered to try to support your emotionally backed generalizations, so anything that would dare to make you back yourself up is therefore “nonsensical” and not worthy of your valuable time.
And no, I’m not surprised at all that one of *your* conversations meanders off topic.
Dhoti, what part of ‘we invade other countries without provocation and kill civilians, thus people don’t like us,’ don’t you understand?
The part where you’re still not proving your generalization, Seth. I’m afraid I don’t know any clearer way to say “be specific”.
I was specific. I backed up a specific claim with specific facts. Claiming not to understand at this point only makes you look stupid.
Then show me where you made the connection.
The connection is, we have a history of invading other countries to protect our interests. People don’t like it when other people invade their country, therefore, they don’t like us. I am aghast at your lack of comprehension.
What you myopically call a “lack of comprehension”, Seth, is in actuality simply not sharing your dogma. Your inability to comprehend that is obviously getting you flustered.
@Seth: Aghast? Least you are better than Aghoul though I would have thought you Aspectre instead of a flesh eater with gas problems.
Dhoti, I understand that you choose to reject facts and hold a series of incompatible opinions based on what makes you feel good about yourself. So what part my statement do you disagree with? Are my facts wrong? Does the fact that we use force preemptively somehow not support the conclusion that people don’t like us for that reason? Please explain your reasoning.
@ Seth: I’m a little confused so perhaps you could clarify — is the list you posted supposed to be all use of any branch of the U.S. military over the past 120 years, or are these all actions you would qualify as “wrong” in some way? If so, I’d certainly disagree with you on some of those.
@Diss, that was all military actions, provided for perspective between good/bad actions. I didn’t list actions not officially involving the military, like all the coups and such in Central and South America.
@Seth: Thanks for the clarification. Carry on, then, guys.
Dhoti: Some stupid inflammatory right-wing comment.
Seth: Protestation and refutation of comment.
Dhoti: Asks for proof of refutation.
Seth: Provides proof of refutation.
Dhoti: Pretends not to see proof. Demands proof again.
Seth: Points to proof. Elucidates.
Dhoti: Demands proof again.
Seth: Delivers personal insult.
Dhoti: Demands proof again. Personal insult.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Ad nausium.
ahs nauseated whut…
*applauds*
Roots in the CLINTON administration. I trust you are aware that Clinton wasn’t elected until 1992. 13 of the terrorist attacks listed were during the Ray-gun administration. Oh and FYI 2 of those under Clinton were carried out by right-wing American extremists
Look, I want to do a knee-jerk reaction against No Mos too, but he lists attacks going all the way back to the Reagan era. Maybe his point isn’t as plain as we think? He also gives Clinton credit for the only reaction against terrorists anywhere on his list.
Then why is he/she listing 14/23 events that far precede Clinton? By similar logic Oklahoma City had roots in Bush Sr, and Reagon, and where is the Iran Terrorists taking hostages in the late 70s? Can we blame that on Clinton too?
I think that’s hardly arguable considering Saddam Hussein was installed in Iraq in the early 80’s to fight the Iranians, and we (meaning the CIA and the Reagan Administration) armed, funded, and equipped the Afghan rebel fighters during the 80’s to fight the Russians in the name of halting communism. In a way, we setup our own failure in terms of fighting today’s “terrorism threat”.
Saying the Clinton Administration is responsible for today’s issues is irresponsible and extremely naïve, not to mention short-sighted historically. As much as I would like to blame the Bush Administration for allowing 9/11 to happen, that simply amounts to mere scapegoating, and makes a mockery of the past 50 years of bad foreign policy.
You forgot one more nugget:
August, 2001: Bush/Cheney essentially ignore reports on the President’s Daily Briefing that the FBI had more than 30 investigations into AlQueda and OBL making efforts to launch attacks on American Soil, and possibly utilizing hijacked passenger airliners…
Too bad Jimmy Carter wasn’t in charge, huh?
*Will probably hate self for asking*
And your point would be?
We all will probably hate you for asking!
You’d think I’d know better…
If you have to ask…you probably wouldn’t get it anyway.
Nope…I was just hoping maybe you’d come up with something new…
Why bother when you already miss the obvious?
Okay, you mentioned Jimmy Carter, and said it was too bad he wasn’t in charge. Which I agree with, because Carter would have handled things with diplomacy and an eye to nonviolent solutions. He would have gotten the hostages back just fine if the Reagan team wasn’t deliberately and illegally screwing things up for him.
If Carter had been in charge on 9/11, you can bet we would have gone after the real enemies, and not invaded a country that had nothing to do with it.
I’d figure Carter would just be attacked by rodents again, but you never know.
Of course, if that happened today, that rabbit would have been killed and and investigation would have been launched into which terrorist organization trained that attack rabbit. The lack of a laser on it’s head would take suspicion away from Virtucon, but Umbrella Corp. may be under more scrutiny.
That rabbit had a mean streak a mile wide! It was hissing at him and trying to climb into his boat.
“Ahm in yer swampz, scarin’ yer president”
Deliberately and illegally screwing things up seems to be a fine republican tradition.
1 Nixon deliberately and illegally screwing up Viet Nam peace talks for his own political advantage
2 Watergate
3 Iran-Contra
AAhhhh….we all know the laundry list.
Jimmy’s problem was that he was too good a man to be president-not enough of the rotten ruthless bastard in him.
Isn’t it a pity that “world leaders” seem to have to always be such miserable excuses for human beings?
Actually, his worst sin was being Commander in Chief when the Army botched the rescue of the hostages. If the Army had known how to operate in a desert environment, and had secured our hostages and returned, Reagan wouldn’t have stood a chance.
I think it’s important to remember that Dhoti isn’t, in fact, a human being. He is the latest incarnation of the of the Eliza Turing program. You will never get any indication that he understands an argument put to him because there is no brain available to comprehend anything. I admit, it’s pretty sophisticated, but ultimately, it’s futile to use logic or reason.
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA}
Thanks for the clarification…I’ll probably just ignore Dhoti from this point forward.
Can you think of a /:-) specific example ?
*plays along*
OK…Dhoti, you’re right. I missed the obvious. So getting back to my original question, what is your point?
Are you actually expecting an answer?
Not a coherent one… sometimes it’s just fun to poke at them with a stick.
Funny, then, that you’re the one who’s gotten baited. But I’m sure it just appears that way, while it’s all really part of some cunning troll-poking plan, right?
You didn’t bait anyone, Dhoti. You don’t have any bait, just some pocket lint that nobody wants.
A personal attack on an entirely unrelated thread — yep, clearly no one wants it, but you can’t help seeking it out. *snerk*
You were claiming to have successfully trolled MG, ‘baited’ her into responding. Do you claim to actually have some sort of bait? Do you not have pocket lint? Does someone want your pocket lint? I really don’t understand how you could take my comment as an attack.
And I don’t understand why you even bothered to type that out. After all, I’m not important, right? No one cares what I have to say, right? No one agrees with me, right?
So why bother? Especially why bother coming back? I mean, you’re a smart, witty Internet debater, right, not the sort of person who would ever fall for that kind of stuff on a forum…certainly never, ever get mad about it…
Fall for what sort of stuff, Dhoti?
And another thing, Dhoti, generally speaking, one doesn’t *snerk* at one’s own comments …
Ok, admittedly I’ve been out of the game for a bit… but is EP back as Dhoti?
N8! Welcome back, mate.. it’s been awhile. To answer your question, I think Dhoti is EPx5..
That was the troll who’s name I was trying to remember! Evil Pundit! Yeah, Dhoti does sound an awful lot like EP.
Gotta disagree Seth. EP was more of a drive-by spouter of talking points. He’d just blurt them out and run. Dhoti will continue replying with abuse for as long as anyone keeps responding to him. When confronted with a fact beyond the boundaries of his programming, he’s programmed to attack your personal education, intelligence, or integrity. Or to respond with total non-sequiturs. I’m telling you, it’s not really a human you’re arguing with, it’s a bot. I was joking at first, but now I think it’s really true.
Just as an exercise, try to find out any of the following:
1) What state or province he lives in.
2) His highest level of education.
3) Where he earns his income.
4) Any personal relationship details.
You won’t be able to find out any of them, because IT IS NOT A HUMAN YOU ARE ARGUING WITH!
PM, one would think a confirmed liar would attack from more solid footing. Oh, please — if you’re going to attack my integrity, have some yourself first, you coward.
Quoting myself:
“he’s programmed to attack your personal education, intelligence, or integrity.”
See?
Well, clearly you didn’t get to where you are in the international business/internet debating worlds by not making use of your sleaziness.
I swear, this is just too easy. I wish your programmer would drop in and check what’s going on. At least he (or she, I’ll be fair) could fake an answer to one of our questions and keep us guessing.
You’re absolutely obsessed with my socioeconomic status, aren’t you? Are you really that desperate to lump me into whatever you consider to be the “wrong” social strata? It’s kind of creepy.
Since it has yet to be relevant, I still maintain it’s more honest to refuse to say, than to lie and make up whatever will make me sound better in today’s thread.
Here’s an earlier version, if anyone wants to compare and see if there are any differences between “Eliza” and “Dhoti”
{http://www.facems.com/examples/Eliza/index.html}
Here’s a funny story I found while researching Eliza today:
Eliza and the Turing Test
One weekend at BBN/MIT the Eliza (psychotherapist) system was hooked up to the central computer. The Sales Vice-President logged in, hoping to give a demo to a client. Eliza works by simple pattern matching ands has no understanding of what it is doing and, therefore, not much intelkligence! The dialog that followed is given, below.
VICE PRESIDENT’S DIALOG IN CAPITALS
Eliza’s dialog in lower case
DO YOU THINK THAT I CAN USE THE COMPUTER THIS MORNING?
Why do you ask?
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL SALES.
Why, aren’t you sure?
MY PROSPECTIVE CUSTOMERS HAVE NEVER SEEN A DEMONSTRATION OF THE
SYSTEM.
Does this mean very much to you?
OF COURSE IT DOES.
You seem very positive about that.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
What do you mean, this is ridiculous?
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY I CAN’T USE THE COMPUTER NOW.
Tell me more about your prospective customers.
PLEASE DIAL ME UP ON 491-1850.
The system operator, who did not know ELiza had been hooked up, then got a real earful as the vice president thought it was he who was responding to his on line queries. If the vice-president was fooled, then does it mean that Eliza passed the Turing test? And, what does that say about the Turing test as a criterion for an intelligent system?
(Back to PM)
Does this sound familiar to anyone?
As an uber-important senior manager — that’s what you told us, right? — are you admitting this is what you do during board meetings and the like?
I’d hate to think that your poor employees are going without your foresight, your vision, your uncompromising leadership. (Unless they make too little, live in the wrong neighborhood, or are of the wrong race or gender, right? Or do you just screen them out when you hire them?)
Why
are you concerned over my poor employees are going without my foresight ?
my conclusion about the missing identifiers on dhoti – he’s carl rove’s b@st@rd love clone and isn’t allowed to admit any familial connection (and annie451 is his sock through another isp)
bf, I never thought anyone would figure out that I had an extra dial-up line run to my Unabomber-style shack so that I could post as two people…but you’re too smart for me…
Your unabomber style shack so that you could post as two people…but you’re too smart for me… ?
I’ve got a wager on 2 hours before Dhoti’s head explodes with Mark answering him like that. Who wants in?
You assume that PM isn’t always that vapid. I’m just impressed he managed to figure out how to use Wikipedia.
Can you think of a /:-) specific example ?
(prior nesting fail)
Wow…just wow. One day I’m gonna get a few uninterrupted hours to just click refresh over and over, and I’ll be able to participate in the epic flamewars once again.
Yeah, days off are pretty cool. I already rode Forest Park today (9.5 miles uphill, but the 9.5 miles downhill make it totally worth it!), got some shopping done, and took my car into Schucks to find out why the “Check Engine” light was on, so I feel justified relaxing with a beer and a computer right now.
Did anyone else notice that Dhoti referred to Bad Fairie as BF….just like Annie does? I’m not saying that means anything but it just struck me as odd.
OH WOW MAN THAT WAS THE MOST AMAZING NONANSWER EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE INTERNETS. ANSWER THE F*CKING QUESTION YOU PATHETIC IDIOT.
he can’t – he doesnt have the cajones to
Careful, you’ll hurt his feelings by yelling at him like that.
it means there are a lot of people out there still willing to buy themselves some dragon-repellant rocks…
I’ve been spraying my house with “Dragon-B-Gon” for the past 9 years. You mean to tell me all I needed were rocks?
You just keep spraying… I’ll get you soon enough.
aren’t the people’s breasts supposed to show up for some troll cuddling or something?
Hell, I want cuddles and I am the president…
People’s breasts for the people! You promise me this, DWN and I’ll vote for you next time around, mayhaps.
The People’s Breasts ™ went to Starbucks this morning for the biweekly coffee with the Aunties to discuss politics/religion/gardening/weird illnesses old ladies in their 50’s get/which store in a three county area has the rudest cashiers/etc. Then they went to lunch with their mother. Sorry.
But the boobs are here now, right? Cuz I has a hankering… And wallFly needs faith reaffirmed in my political platform.
*enfolds DWN and wallFly in communism’s loving embrace*
You think Obama’s a big nasty socialist, yes you do.
Although you should get them while they’re perky, I’ve gotta leave for work in 20 minutes.
NOMNOMNOMNOM!!!
only if it’s socialist trolling. otherwise… the troll stick of doom (TM) comes out to play.
Breasts would be more interesting than all that. My scroll key is about worn out.
You all Fail. What No mo is stating is all the terrorist attacks that happened on Americans in recent history before the Bush Administration. During the Bush Administration, after 9/11, Virtually none. So to Say Bush protected America from terrorist attacks is very, very credible.
DIN DING DING!
We have someone who is actually literate!
Wrong. That list counts attacks outside the US. If we count terrorism outside the US after 9/11, we see that terrorism increased immensely in both the number and lethality of attacks. [LINK] in my name. Or google ‘terrorist attacks since 9/11′
DING! DING! DING! We have someone who picks and chooses their facts based on what they wish were true.
AAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDDD you’ve missed the point completely. All of them did have an effect on American lives. Yes, there have been attacks hurting Americans since. But that isn’t what the list is trying to prove, and I think you know this.
And now we are probably going to get into an argument in which you try to use larger and larger words in every response, while not saying much of substance.
But the list did not stick with only attacks on Americans in America- it listed foreign attacks as well—so logic is missing from what could have been a cogent argument?
Sorry have to say it- if we use the exact same standards as the list- then terrorist attacks have gone up substantially, since Bush admin also quantified Iraqi’s as terrorists (some of whom are I am sure)…then how many?
You forgot dragon attacks.
I wasn’t there, Dammit! I was in Spain and damn those people taste weird…
Saying there were none is deliberate blindness on an idiotically gigantic scale. There were thousands.
Did anyone notice that 14/23 examples were on Geo Sr and Reagan watch? So why not acknowledge this? And if we are going to count every attack (as opposed to the ones on US, not embassy), then Bush would win hands down- how many freaking Americans have had RPGs/IEDs/Suicide bombs kill them in Iraq? Over how many instances? Logic completely fail-
note how they haven’t responded to any of the proven facts stated… clearly a drive by troll.
The unicorn population is the same as it was before the Bush/Cheney administration, too! They TOTALLY protected the unicorns!
I think you will find that the Unicorn population was decimated during the Clinton administration, therefore proving beyond all doubt that Clinton killed all the Unicorns.
Contrarywise – Unicorns became extinct under Ronnie Raygun, or possibly earlier, therefore Clinton’s administration could not have killed 10% of the unicorn population!
No no no no no. The Star Wars defence system clearly prevented Unicorn deaths by keeping all the terrorists of the “Anti-Unicorn League” in check. I do think though that Jimmy Carter began a Unicorn breeding program, although that picture could have been faked.
The rabbit ate them.
Poor Jimmy. He gets no respect
At least some of you have a sense of humor – the Olbermann-and-Hannity-blame-the-other-side-wannabes above us almost made me vomit out a testicle.
That is quite the mental image. *ponders it anew* Yep; unique and disturbing. A+!
i happen to like carter, he did the best he could for not being a washington insider and for not playing their games, but dang, i gotta wonder about any good lo’ boy who loses to a rabbit in water deep enough the rabbit cant touch bottom….what would he have done if it were something really dangerous like a big rat or catfish?
…is it wrong that I would probably pay to see that?
Though now, I think, I’ll be having a nightmare of that tonight.
I saw a unicorn at Arabian Nights Dinner Theater in Kissimmee (FLA) a while back. Could it be the last one in captivity? Ok, I’ll admit it. That’s what I told my step-son, and had him believing it too! lulz
another unfunny one. congrats.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking… not funny at all.
I loved it. Maybe you’re humor impaired? You laugh while pulling the wings off flies, maybe? Or while pushing a crippled kid down the stairs? Ah, good times for a Neocon!
You say that like you are any better.
I find that (unlike the picture) to be very humerus.
I fail to see how your response bears any relationship to my arm bones?
You can carpal you like but ulna put up with this nonsense.
watch it or Is it so hard? might falange you.
I’m not seeing a denial… O_o
Yeah? Have you quit molesting underage children yet?
I’m not seeing a denial… O_o
I deem this caption,…..
Win
Excellent LOL. Right on the money
I think the bigger fools are the people that think Obama’s administration is going to be different from Bush and Cheney’s team.
Yeah we are all fools. I am sure he will lie, cheat, steal, torture and murder his way through the 8 years (!) just like the last lot.
I think the biggest fools of all are the ones who think ANY politition is going to magically fix our economy and make everything perfect. Even if McCain was in office stuff would be the exact same. Though im sure im going to get a few nasty replies here about how McCain is a genious, Obama is an idiot, blah blah blah. Which I will ignore, because those people are douchebags.
McCain voters are just as stupid as Obama ones. McCain supported the bailout and other big government policies. Im a proud Bob Barr voter.
I say Oprah should have ran…she’d make everything better
haha
Congratulations… you voted for a guy who flip-flopped on most of the things he supported while in Congress… Voted for the Patriot Act, then said he was against it.
Authored the Defense of Marriage Act (supporting a ban on same sex marriage) then said “oops, my bad.”
Voted for the Iraq Resolution, then when cornered, said “whoever the next president is should withdraw all troops immediately”.
Proposed that Congress should ban Wicca as a religion in the Millitary…but announces he supports all religious paractices.
Was a “leader” on the war on drugs, but now supports the repeal of the prohibition of marijuana…
Given his record, I’m sure he’s against the bailout and other big government now…but when push comes to shove…
Yep…you’re right McCain voters, Obama voters are all dumb, but you’re the smart one…
To be truthful, Bob Barr flip flopped after he started to understand Libertarianism. Call it an epiphony. Now my issue with him is that he had to have someone explain to him why he was wrong and that he didn’t come to the conclusions on his own. Hence, I cannot support him.
Fair enough… I really don’t know enough about him other than what I read during the election.
I remember him from L’affaire de Lewinsky which is why I wouldn’t vote for the Libertarians. Come on, Libertarians! Front a decent candidate!
I’d say the Libertarians HAD a candidate, but Ron Paul was unfortunately running under the GOP, which was a big mistake.
I would have voted for Ron Paul instead of Obama, I support his politics more; that said I still like Obama if not some of his discussions. He’s so new to the office I’m willing to give everything the time it needs. He drew the bad straw of the lot, had the balls to try and fix it, and we need to realize that things aren’t going to magically get better.
I think what you’ve said summed up pretty much everything I was thinking on the issue. I would have voted for Ron Paul, but the only issue preventing me from doing so would be his entire de-funding of education, which at this point, would be equivalent to telling the country to go f@#% itself.
It’s good to see that people exist who are capable of spotting logical fallacies.
Actually the Bush administration did not protect the US from terrorists. History’s greatest dictator/terrorist Adolf Obama stole the presidency with the help of the american sheeple.
EIN REICH EIN VOLK EIN OBAMA
Stealing the presidency? That would be Bush, in 2000, with the help of the Supreme Court, thanks.
You don’t steal a presidency with the help of the PEOPLE since it’s the will of the people that puts a president in there.
Careful, nobody explained voting to him.
OH! I thought he was just being ironic. Silly me.
Bush didn’t steal the election; hell, if you want to get technical, Gore conceded victory (read: bowed out) privately, and then when the gap closed, he changed his mind. Bush won by 900 votes, and a mandatory recount of certain counties was initiated, in policy with FL’s guidelines regarding such a close vote. The FL Supreme Court decided to extend the deadline to a time in direct conflict with the FL constitution. This is what the Supreme Court ruled on…that the extension was unconstitutional, which was true.
Also, it’s not the people that elect a President, it’s the Electoral College – hence why Obama was declared victor before all the states reported their votes in, even with a popular vote that was very close (IIRC, he was only up by 2-3%).
I would like to type out a logical and intelligent reply to you explaining how he actually did steal the election but given your intellect I will give you the re[ly you deserve…
You’re a dick.
A gentleman and a scholar.
Quiet you!
Have you answered that question above yet?
And which question is that? (Or, better yet, whose sock puppet are you? It’s easier to just search the thread that way.)
We’re still waiting for that logical and intelligent reply…
Who is this ‘we’ you are referring to? Are you some kind of royalty? Do you speak for a coalition of some sort?
Wow, I must have you really worked up, if you’re sitting there working the refresh button that hard. Poor Seth, getting riled up by some troll who nobody listens to and whose opinions don’t matter…
Say what now? You are fun to taunt. You present no facts and your arguments are held together with spit and bailing wire. It’s easy to make you look like a complete fool, and lead you around by the nose. I’m not riled up, I’m bored at work and taunting you is always amusing.
You are the one who can’t stop replying to me. You are like a little remote controlled toy. Dance, monkey, dance. Ahhhh, good times, good times.
Hey, I’m just trying to help you learn how to defend what you believe, assuming you really believe it at all. (Either I’m not a great teacher, or you’re a poor student. Maybe a little of both.)
But go on, rationalize — I love it. I love your hate-filled invectives, your illogical rants, your laughable world view; it’s all great fun.
Why do you pretend not to understand why no one here respects you? You bring nothing to the table, you never cite sources, and you troll, viciously and childishly, all the time. You get what you give out.
I’m sure you think so. After all, what possible reason would there be for me to disagree with your strongly held but unsupportable dogma? Every time I ask you to defend what you say, you throw the same adorable tantrum.
Now if only I could find the off switch to both of your diodes, I could get peace and quiet. Damn kids, get off my lawn!
That is true, if by ‘adorable tantrum’ you mean backing my arguments up with citations and facts. Which I’ve yet to see you do. Not even once. You don’t have arguments, you have rants not backed up by facts. The mishmash of ideas you hold does not even qualify as a ‘world-view,’ its just angry nonsense.
You don’t seem to realize that backing up an argument involves both citing facts and explaining how they fit. What you do is best classified as very loud pointing.
I very much doubt you know more than a bit of what I actually believe. That would require listening, and you’re far too protective of your dogma to actually do that. Your imagination seems quite healthy, though.
I explained how the facts fit. It’s not my problem if you can’t understand logic and reason. If you think they don’t fit, you need to show why they don’t fit. But you can’t. All you have is bluster and rage.
If you would present your worldview and facts to back it up, maybe people could understand you. But you only provide angry opinions, most of which are mutually contradictory in one way or another. Your entire worldview, as you have presented it, is hypocritical, illogical, unsupported by facts, and based on nothing more than deep seated rage.
Did you? I asked you before to point it out; you responded with a personal attack.
Like I said before, your imagination isn’t an issue here. Though you certainly seem to know a thing or two about deep-seated rage yourself. You must be seething by now.
You are funny, little guy! You don’t have the power to make anyone angry. Someone would need to actually respect you or your opinion to get angry with you.
Again, I have proved my point. I have presented facts in a logical sequence supporting a conclusion. You have done nothing but yelp and whine, and pretend not to understand plain English. It is getting pretty old. You need a new shtick.
You say that, but it’s obviously not true. And the act of bottling it up has just got to make you madder, I’m sure…too bad you can’t just admit it and get it off your chest…
Like I said earlier, repeating a lie doesn’t make it the truth. No matter how many times you want us to believe you proved your point, you actually didn’t. This seems to be a common theme with you.
You have not proved that I have not proved my point. You need to show how and why what I said does not prove what I say it proves. If you can even remember what we were talking about.
But I grow tired of spanking your bottom. I know you love to be abused and humiliated by your superiors, but I do have other things I’d like to discuss with more interesting people. Check back tomorrow and see If I’m in the mood to dole out more spankings.
Seth, Dhoti -
Gotta say I’m getting a kick out of your fierce banterings but, Dhoti – I think you’re getting your a$$ handed to you here by a majority of people, Seth just being the most fiesty of them.
A suggestion from an observer: you’re coming across hypocritical and ficticious in your posts. You demand people pay attention to a minute detail you say, then ignore it when they respond to is, claiming they’re not paying attention or whatever. You’re better off acknowledging their response since when they ask a question of you, like Mothergoose above did, you ignore it or play the childish game of “if you don’t know then I can’t tell you” – that’s crap and you’re making a fool of yourself.
Just a heads up.
Wallfly, great comment! However, it’s a shame that your advise will go ignored.
@Wallfly: Well said…
@eddie: And so the cycle continues — heeded or not, your mind is made up and your ears are closed, apparently.
I just hope Seth’s “victory” is being judged by my tone than his content. It would be a shame to tolerate such shady tactics just because they tie in with the forum’s bias, or worse yet, to actually be fooled by them.
@Dhoti, well, we can’t judge your posts on their content, because they don’t have any. If you need to know how to put actual content into your posts, look at mine. See how I include facts, arranged in a logical sequence, that supports a conclusion? That’s called an argument.
I know you think an argument is just contradiction and name calling, but there is more to it than that. Maybe your local junior college has some adult ed writing classes you could take? Just a thought, I know they probably won’t help you in your chosen field of fry cookery, but knowing how to think and write can enrich anyone’s life.
Seth, I thought you said you had better things to do? Yet here you are, trolling after posts of mine that weren’t even addressed to you. And an occupational jab, too! (Though I’m not surprised to hear that manual labor is beneath you.)
With every post you’re sounding more like another of this forum’s trollish, self-appointed guardians, Fester. Though I imagine you would take that comparison as a compliment.
I see you’ve added confidence in your rhetorical skills to the rest of your dogma. Quite in character, I suppose. But the thought of you looking over your thread, smugly satisfied, as you contemplate teaching a night school class (another group you feel superior too, no doubt), is quite literally lol funny.
Do you miss your Daddy Fester giving you your spankings for being such a naughty, naughty boy, Dhoti?
All you’d have to do would be to cite where you proved your point. It’s not that hard, if you actually did it. But instead you waste all this time dancing around the point.
Let me guess — you work in government?
We were discussing you :n) — not me.
Dhoti, you didn’t say anything about Wallfly’s very helpful comment. Would you care to comment on that?
That’s what drives me nuts. If I’m wrong about my Bot theory (I’m pretty sure I’m right), then what we have is a reasonably intelligent human being who so despises other people that he can’t listen to them. He never leaves any message that indicates he has read and understood any post, even if it is a post by a right winger. He’s never expressed any respect for any member of our little community, whether rightie or leftie.
Hence, I’m almost certain it’s not a real human, just some kind of trolling bot. Probably someone trying to automate the process of collecting $$$ on a per-post basis from a right wing think tank. Just imagine it! You develop this bot, turn it loose on hundreds of political discussion groups, and collect a nickel per post from the American Enterprise Institute! Some day, all humans will leave these groups and leave them populated by right- and left- wing bots screaming at each other (shudder)
Wow. This is how the war between man and machine really starts!
@Dhoti: As Seth said, if you provided actual content and not just drivel, then you would have a case for my mind being made up. The only thing my mind is really made up on is that you can turn a good phrase, but beyond that you’re incredibly shallow.
Is it bad I find it funny that you mis-typed “reply” while insulting my intelligence?
I don’t think Bush was a good president…I don’t think we’ve actually had a good president in quite a long time (Regan had a good economic plan, but that was really about it), but to say he stole the election is more than a bit deserving of a tin-foil hat.
You’re a little off on the facts. Some of them, anyway.
The Florida Circuit Court ruled that the law required all counties to report by seven days following the election, but that Katherine Harris could, at her discretion, allow for more time to complete recounts. Harris declined to allow more time for the recount, and on November 26, 2000, certified Bush as the winner.
On December 8, 2000, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that a statewide recount of all legally cast ballots must be initiated. The next day, the US Supreme Court stopped the recount, on the grounds that there were questions involving the legality of some of the votes cast, and that counting all the votes would “threaten irreparable harm to petitioner Bush, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election.”
However, I think claims of a stolen election are legitimate based on other data you don’t address:
1) The person who first ruled Bush’s victory legitimate was the Campaign Co-Chair for the Bush/Cheney campaign in Florida.
2) The same person initiated a purge of felons from Florida voter rolls; unfortunately, due to sloppy handling of the purge, thousands of people were purged improperly.
3) In 2000, Florida Republicans illegally engaged in the process of Voter Caging; wherein mail is sent to voters in areas that traditionally vote for one’s opponent. If the mail is returned as undeliverable, this is used as a reason to challenge the legitimacy of individual voters. The voters in question don’t know they’re being challenged until they arrive at the polls, and therefor don’t even get a chance to prove their legitimacy. It should be noted that the Republican party misused this tactic in the ’80s to exclude primarily black voters from voting, and has been forbidden from using the tactic by court order.
I won’t even get into the question of misleading ballots and claims of vote flipping on machines produced by companies owned by Bush campaign supporters, since these claims have never been proven in court. Still, I find them credible, if not defensible.
PM – that’s more along the lines of what I was lead to believe occured in regards to what I’ve read on various news sites, articles, papers, tv programs, etc. Thank you for stating it out in such a concise and informed manner.
Just wanted to say that, I feel better now.
I’m glad to be of service
Dumbass.
Erm, how exactly is that being dumbass?
Claiming that Obama is a dictator/terrorist…inferring that he somehow stole an election… I think that qualifies him for dumbass status.
Sorry, I thought you were referring to the person who pointed out that Bush stole the election as Dumbass!
Yes, what you said is Dumbass!
No prob…just don’t let it happen again!
I promise nothing!
while i second the “dumbass” comment above.
I promise dumbasses!
it’s dum-mass!
One internet if you guess.
Mr. Cheney….you’re not welcome here.
No one died because of Zombies or Vampires either.
I think Cheney qualifies as undead, so I’d doubt that.
Alien Invasions, don’t forget those either. Bush kept us safe from alien invasions
Oh, and giant squids
And let’s not forget about killer bees! No, one, er…well, hmm.
So, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad…
Aren’t the bees all dying off? Score another one for Team Bush!
that’s true, the lawyer he shot survived….
Damn Cheney and his antidragon rhetoric! Me and my fellow scaley bastards would fly and raze your cities to the ground if it weren’t for those damn special invisible but oh so costly dragon barriers across the countries.
You have any idea how much eating Indians affects my indigestion!? I’ve had nothing but Southeastern Asian since that administration and I want to come back and eat so good old American, God bothering Christian.
T_T
*pickets* DRAGON RIGHTS NOW!!!
I’m in favor of that.
Broads Lobbying on Wyrm Rights?
BLOWR…
I rather like this movement…
Females Understanding Cunning Killer Dragons…
F.U.C.K.D…
How ’bout this movement?
You girls are enough to make me weep with joy for knowing you. *huggles and bites*
*Allows DWN to nibble a bit longer than normal*
It’s all part of our master plan, darling…
*nibbles some more*
Excellent.
And another example of why I’m so loyal to my Lord and President DWN.
You can’t be a classy dragon without a good minion. Speaking of which, bind these women lest they escape… And because it’s fun.
I’m a member of both BLOWR and F.U.C.K.D, I hope this doesn’t result in a conflict of interest that prevents me from getting nibbled on.
As our Presidents Personal Assistant (and Secret Torture Minion) I would be honored to nibble you until President DWN can get to you.
No nibbling for you until you have these women tied down. *cracks tail whip in air to make point*
*bites*
I always have time for charter members… *nibbles*
Sidenote: I heard a delightful interpretation of your voice in my head saying “I’m a member of BLOWR and F.U.C.K.D.” and it gave me a pleasant shiver. Mmm, happy thoughts.
YAY!!! *is nibbled*
I hope that interpretation made me sound sexy.
Hence the pleasant shiver, my dear. *bites some more*
DWN Trivia time! What kind of dragon is DeathWyrmNexus? In what format did the character of DWN first appear? Obviously, dragons of any sort are forbidden from entering this contest.
Damn commies and their damn antidragon rhetoric… *flicks stone with tail and wipes out random dude’s home*
I didn’t do that. *flies off into a cloud*
i’ve got a high fat content fundie female i’d be so willing to donate to the betterment of your presidency, or if youy’re looking for somrthing lower in cholesteral, ‘ve got a healthy male ditto-head (not a real xian tho) or should i just send you both?
Send both, I could use a beach ball and Ivan needs batting practice…
And I have a brand new Louisville Slugger…not a mark on it! *giddy*
This was funny until the “We should get props for that too”.
Ya, that kinda dulled it a bit for me too.
i dug it – it played off the preposterous statement of the dragons, i mean, once you’ve brought up dragons i think anything’s game.
it’s cute, which is a nice juxtapose to darth there.
I’m not made up or preposterous!!!
Definitely a dearth of preponderance of preposterity.
*chews*
*swallows*
*rinses*
*flosses*
*waterpic’s*
*gargles*
*chokes*
*spits*
*gags*
Oh, sorry froo. *blush*
That ain’t why
*has no trouble*
Preventing further terrorist attacks is a reason to hate someone? There’s been no terrorist attack under Obama yet either. Hate him too?
Well, if you don’t count the terrorist attacks against our troops for the last six years, then I have to ask:
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!? WHY DON’T YOU RESPECT OUR TROOPS?!? I get it- as long as you personally aren’t in any danger, then you really don’t care what happens to the brave men and women who serve in the armed forces, right?
Ahem.
Seriously, let’s look at this.
Let’s ignore the human cost of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s criminally callous, but I already know you don’t care about the 4299 (as of today) coalition soldiers killed fighting in Iraq.
What is the economic cost of the conflict?
To date, the conflict in Iraq has cost us nearly 672.5 billion dollars.
The attack on 9/11 according to the Center for Contemporary Conflict, around $653 billion, including such things as insurance payouts, destruction of property, increased spending on security, and estimates of loss of to our GDP. This number is highly debatable, as it counts spending on security as a liability and doesn’t count the economic stimulus of hiring in the security sector and related industries as economic growth, only as drags on (ahem) the income of the wealthiest among us.
So, as you can see, all Bin Laden had to do was spend about $500,00 on the 9/11 attacks, and we responded by giving him everything he wanted: we removed our troops from Saudi Arabia, raised the price of oil to $100/barrel, terrorized our own people with the DHS color code daily terror alert system, and crippled our own economy. We’ve plainly damaged ourselves more than he ever damaged us, and damaged our “soft power” abroad to boot.
So, explain again how the Bush/Cheney regime did well by us in the Global War Against Terrorism(tm)?
Ferris Bueller, you’re my hero.
*cough* anthrax /*chough*
Replies are funny.
Obama: look at all the jobs that weren’t lost
excellent poste, complet et bien détaillé, ça me plaît !merci bien
Exactly!