Our minds are merging
Our minds are merging, Mr. President. My thoughts to your thoughts…
(Barack Obama)
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Hooray! Then he’ll actually have some!
*waits for FLAMING FIREBALL*
Really? You’re really questioning his intelligence? After the shrub that JUST left office?
*withholds flaming fireball for a more worthy opponent*
Wait now… why did you jump to the conclusion that I was talking about Obama and not the little boy?
ROFL!
Well played, HST.
I am ashamed, O Lord. I went against my own rules and I FED THE TROLL. Please spare me your wrath.
*grovel*
With divine insight and forgiveness, you are spared as we all have been spared, Amen.
Thanks.
*burp*
Needed that. Got some tears of self-loathing I can wash it down with?
*backhands* No touching my minions!
Because it’s a little girl in a red dress.
…and now with the clothing/gender assumptions!
It could be a little boy in a red dress. You gotta infect with Teh Ghey early, don’tcha know.
I know, right?!?!elebenty! ROFL!
*flounces off in a huff.”
That is a cute kid, though. And I think my daughter has that same outfit.
THANK you for not dressing your daughter in 100% pink! I’m not anti-pink, but what is it these days with the children’s clothing industry?
Fathers. All fathers who are wrapped around their daughter’s fingers dress their daughters in nothing but pink, thus the industry. My big tough strong husband who laughs in the face of danger and cookies has taken it upon himself to decorate our daughter’s room in Disney and pink. I refused to do stuff to him if he turned it all pink, so he gave in and let me add some purples and blues to the mix. I’d have my daughter in anything but pink if I was the final word
Lynn and I both hate pink. I want elegant, not vapid. So I plan to steer in the direction of purples, reds, blacks, and the like. If anything Lynn will be the one to make sure some lighter colors come out.
Pink is fine if done right. If done wrong, you look like you bathed your child in Pepto Bismal.
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One of my favorite onesies that Leia has (and is too big to wear now, *sniff*) is a chocolate brown with little pink flowers. It’s understated, and makes her vampirish skin color pink up and almost look tan. So I can deal with a bit of pink as an accent.
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Also, pink and chocolate and blue altogether in a child’s room is VERY elegant and modern, if you ask me. I think HGTV is warping me
I agree with froofrou. I like pink, but not every girl likes pink, and not every boy likes blue.
IMO you both have good taste. That’s how we did it. Careful, though, you’ll end up with the cloak of doom at 20
She’s certainly not conventional in her style of dress now. (Modest, but not conventional.)
I’m notorious for buying primary-color onesies and little toy trucks for my friends daughters. And stuffed teddies or doggies for the boys.
-whoops! Where did “IOK” come from? My bad!
He is teaching her to box (at 11 months *sigh*), so I dont’ think the outdoorsie man stuff is going to be an issue. But I’m sure she’ll have a pink rifle with which to go hunting
I just saw a 6 year old daughter with her own pink lacrosse stick (father coaches young men). Sooo cute–and when you see young women play lacrosse, sooo fierce and a bit scary! Those things are weapons!
my favorite toys when i was little were tonka construction equipment, and then i was introduced to blowing up barbies with fire crackers because burying them wasn’t adequate….good times those were
Mine were all headless for some reason………
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Now My Little Ponies ™, I can get into that kind of toy!
I was a ‘balanced’ child. Tin soldiers and barbie (she dated GI Joe, who was taller in those days!), climbing trees and dress-up, cops-and-robbers on the bicycles, kick the can. All good stuff! Yay for a mother who believed in bluejeans on a girl in the late 60’s!
I’ve known some mushy fathers but mine sure wasn’t. He was always taking her out to help him fix the car, make house repairs, build things, carry things, and then come in the house and start headbanging together to Led Zeppelin. (I came in from work when she was 1 1/2 and they were both on the floor with hard rock on, doing the heads up and down thing – now they go to concerts together for the same stuff.) The girl had muscles with muscles lol
Mine ties her Barbies to her little brother’s train tracks. Then she puts on her superhero cape and rescues them.
Viking Gal, I saw those at Target and just wished I had a girl young enough to get one for! So cool. Not that I’d have any idea what to tell her to do with it.
Wait, but which came first-the whimpy dads or the pushy daughters?
Wimpy? Where did you get that from? Wasn’t no wimpy on my father!
I will claim the ‘pushy’ for myself though, if by pushy you mean not willing to serve as a door-mat!
I take offense at calling them wimpy dads too!! There is nothing wimpy about a father doing for his daughter! That’s why there are mothers there to temper the dad wanting to hand over the wallet to the daughter, hehe.
Pushy daughters exist and it doesn’t mean unwilling to be a doormat. It means a pain in the @ss girlchild with a princess complex and enough attitude to power a couple vehicles…
*twitch*
That’s why God gave us mothers to keep that from happening, hehe. I know I temper out my hubby’s natural tendencies to give our daughter everything she wants.
Good thinking, though I am not sure how I will be around a daughter. My brother and sister learned wrath of god from me so they don’t mess with me and I was watching them for quite a while.
My oldest son tends to listen to me more than his mother and I don’t plan to treat any future daughter any differently so I dunno how that will pan out…
Appears I opened up a can of worms calling the dads wimpy…. And misspelling it too, didn’t you guys catch that? Anyway, yeah, I didn’t mean it.
He laughs in the face of cookies? That’s just sick.
Except for oatmeal raisin cookies. No one laughs at those.
My parents dressed me in pink dresses and people still said to them “oh he’s so cute, how old is he?”…O_o
I did that at work one time… poor kid. The mother was furious, but the kid was just like, no really, I can see how you’d get confused, no big deal. It was incredibly awkward.
Still got that Adam’s apple?
[jk]
purple is worse than teal, and teal is worst of all
I dressed my daughter in bold colors as well as black. She had the most adorable black velvet dress with white satin bow and trim, magenta was seen fairly often, red, green, blue. Never did like pink for babies – they have their own pink hue; might as well set it off with something better.
For some reason, I think everybody who gave me a baby present for any of my girls gave ‘em something pink & foofy.
One of my favorite pictures of two of my girls, though, they are about 2 & 4, wearing matching black velvet dresses with old hats they got from the thrift store.
Fabulous troll is fabulous.
Hehe – my first thought was, well it’d probably be an improvement
Wow. I was thinking at least then the president would HAVE some thoughts.
Meh.. so meh in fact that this was the only caption..
Meh, indeed. Cute baby, though.
oh, come on, total recall ftw
despite all asumptions the best part of the movie is… well.. i kind of liked most of it, pretty decent for a sci-fi/action flick.
waait wait, i got kuatu mixed up with spock..
*facepalm*
ah well, still liked total recall
I think the baby is beautiful, and she looks like she’s having fun.
kind of different after seeing the pics of bush & mccain with the screaming ones. i bet obama actually held his girls when they were little.
ack, hit the button too soon
anyway, that girl is probably thinking she can really stick her fingers up those nostrils
I had a completely different thought, but this is mixed company
since when has that ever stopped the comments?
Here there be trolls, and they like to call names when people make off color jokes. Private message me and I’ll tell you what I thought
ok, as soon as you teach this old dog a new trick – don’t know how to private message anyone…. dinosaur that i am, shoot, just finally upgraded to xp, not joking – been running 98 since it was beta….
It doesn’t take long.
The people who comment on this site are so polar.
You included, right?
*blinks and looks down at self*
Wait a minute…I’m covered in white fur, I have big paws, and my breath smells like fish…Dammit! I guess I am polar!
I do a great job of typing with my paws, though.
Still hot…
Snap!
You mean like polar bearz?? I love those things! : D
Just don’t try and get close to them.. they’ll tear you a new one.
And reopen the old one…
*growls*
Um…you got a Coke? I hear we like those.
rofl. diss for the win.
Wait…. this was already discussed. I believe I just made a deposit in the bank of fail…..
That’s not true. Some people on here are bipolar. So nyah.
so many more options than the plain vanilla uni-polar types
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“Wait – I’m getting something about world peace…”
“No — make that whirled peas –”
Don’t say that around a baby! Ick!
Renesmee meets the president.
Comment WIN!
lol! awesome!
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Worst. Kid’s. Name. Ever.
Those books kind of sucked.
*Braces for twilight fan onslaught*
Google “Baby’s Named a Bad Bad Thing” for the most *hilarious* site of bad baby names (real ones) and snarky commentary.
Er…I read Twilight but I kind of had to force myself to keep going. I thought it sucked too. There wasn’t anyone to really LIKE and it was so over-the-top and…well it was a lot of things, except “good.” Anyway it’s just as popular to hate them as it is to like them, since they are a poor metaphor for abstinence by a strange religious person. I read a really good and funny snarky recap of the first 13 chapters, but decided I wasn’t going to waste good reading time following up; I just read all the spoilers to see what I wasn’t missing. Yuck.
Oh, the site I recommended (I don’t see the option of putting a link behind my name anymore) was all culled from baby-naming boards, and one of the entries was “What do you think of Dakota Bear for a boy?” and the comment was, “Only if his last name’s Rabinowitz” Hehe. So, yeah, you’ll enjoy it, everyone I ever showed it to does.
Twilight’s like a car crash. You know it’s going to have some lasting affects on your mental state, but you just can’t pull away. You might get to see something shocking.
Lol, that’s exactly it. nice one igloo.
If you log out of Gravitar you can put the link behind your name again.
(or log out of WordPress)
Those are so horrible they hurt!! I put that link on my name. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing that!
*wipes tears* Oh, lordy, thank you both for posting that! I had to shut the door to my office at work so I could lay my head on my desk and laugh until I cried!!! One of my favorites: “‘I’m thinking of naming my baby Vashara Rashea’ ‘That sounds suspiciously close to part of the chant to summon the demon Pazuzu.’”
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And: “And I still haven’t met anyone with the same name-Sharmari, pronounced SHAR-Marie.”
“Sharmari, where the Sharmy keepsh itsh weaponsh. “
Told you it was hilarious. The snarky commenter is one of the best I’ve seen.
Nancy Ann Seancy had me rolling!
Epic spit-up in 3….2…1….
Oh yeah, the ROFLing and RALFing would cross party lines and unite the nation.
Puke, babeh, PUKE!
Now that is what I was thinking would have been really funny. LOL
I guess the points on the ears develop later in life….
Puberty.
Even the baby understands that bank nationalization is a bad idea. Hope it rubs off…
siiigh
even the baby understands that dhoti has to politicize everything…
Which brings me to my next point. Don’t do drugs.
But.. they’re so much fun!!
i’m with charro on this one…
Hooray for drugs.
I’m currently in love with my asthma meds. But maybe not for the reason you are speaking?
What are you on? I have Singulair but it’s ridiculously expensive for me right now, so I don’t take them everyday like I should, only when I think I’m going to be in a situation where I might have an asthma attack. They work really great but they make me sleep like the dead!
Singular just made me very dizzy and starting an itchy rash, so not that one! I’m on advair, plus fluticonase (a new addition). And after a couple really scary attacks (I don’t wheeze, just get really sleepy and out of it–and can’t move air), I’m so going to follow the instructions like clockwork!
You can point out to your doc that you need generics on your current budget/insurance policy, BTW. Also–there are alternatives which might not make you sleepy? I’m lucky in the sleepy zone–only the attacks make me sleepy (once while driving–ack!)
Define “drugs”.
The magic pills you need significantly more of.
Then I don’t do drugs.
You might want to start — I mean, you can’t even troll properly. And with the wealth of pharmaceutical options out there today, there’s no reason to live your life like that.
Define “define”.
Define “;-)”
Happy winky face on drugs.
Wouldn’t that be ” @_@ ” ?
I always thought those were “eyes roly poly-ing on drugs”.
On a political site, too…how gauche…
LMAO
Not so much gauche as overly confrontational…
Um, really?
baby + obama = huge mental leap to nationalization of banks…
*sigh* Big surprise, a rotten, no good, very bad “confrontational” minority opinion is lost on you.
The pic could be flowers in a field next to a gently burbling stream and Dhoti would come up with “Proof Obama wants to enslave rich people and eat their children”. It’s a waste of time chastising him about it. It’s some kind of Tourette’s thing.
*snerk* The mental image made me LOL.
Tourettes is FUNNY! Like the special olympics! Or the economy on 60 minutes. Gallows humor. HAHA! Hahaha! We all know how you feel about conservatives who don’t curry favor with the leftist overlords; no real need to keep telling us.
I wasn’t laughing at the Tourette’s, rather, I was laughing at the mental image of the gently burbling stream and the “Obama wants to enslave rich people and eat their children.” The over-the-top-ness of the statement made me giggle.
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And who is this “we” to which you are referring?
Obviously, the “we” is the extreme right-wing you love to unilaterally define and then demonize, right?
I haven’t demonized the extreme right wing any more than I have the extreme left wing. I don’t like hypocritical people on either side. Aside from that, you and Anniee both like to grab the shoes and put them on, even if they’re meant for someone else.
Oh, right, I forgot.
PK regular jumping in behind another PK regular = defending against the evil trolls.
Non-PK regular “inconsiderate” doing the same thing = horrible and shoe-wearing and socking and whatever else.
My mistake…
I haven’t accused you of being a sock. Get your facts straight. Considering that you and Anniee are both trolls, then yeah, it’s stupid for you two to back each other up. I call out idiots and idiot statements on both sides. There is no reason to act like I don’t. But constant blather and refusing to see that a well-spoken, politely worded point goes over MUCH better than a profanity-laced, insulting post that is intended to slap people upside the head with your opinion is inexcusable.
dhoti, let me help you out here… the people who are on this site generally stick together against the newbies who come in with half-formulated ideas, a lack of facts, and more socks than any self-respecting drawer…
in short, you burned a lot of credibility with your first posts here and good luck getting any of it back when you continue to post with the writing content and style of an orangutan typing with both feet…
Sort of like the baby pictures being held up by Bush and McCain who were crying and the captions are along the lines of how babies are much better judges of character than anyone else. Or how the babies know these are evil men who want to eat them for dinner. Yeah, I’ve seen that before. It was BDS then McCDS then PDS. Except in this case Dhoti is right. Not that he cited the picture as “proof” of anything, but that Obama is a dangerous, dangerous ideologue. Go figure.
On the lighter side, breaking news is Pelosi has been proven (in writing now) to have known all about the EIT and been fully briefed but stood up there shaking her finger at us all and lying right to our faces about it. Hehe. Let’s frogmarch her down to the Hague and try her for war crimes. Or put her in a room with Barney Frank instead of a caterpillar.
I don’t know what the acronym EIT stands for–and am too tired from exam-grading to care right now. Sorry.
But I did a google image search of Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank to look at body language…and I think that wouldn’t be torture for either of them. Pelosi and Frank seem to like each other well enough to tolerate sharing a room. So if you want to torture Pelosi, I think you have to put her in a room with someone like Ann Coulter or Karl Rove, in order to get the right effect.
*has urge to play fly on the wall, to listen in to the irritated Pelosi–pundit conversation*
You could put her in a room with her boy-toy Rahm on the other side of a Plexiglas shield, where they could see each other but not touch. I bet that would be torture for both
Now that’s just twisted!
I knew I liked you!
That’s the best idea I’ve heard this week (aside from my friend saying, hey wanna go see Star Trek on Saturday)! I want this to happen, and I want to see Pelosi weeping like a baby ’cause she can’t get to him.
And vice versa–he obviously wants him some!
“On the lighter side, breaking news is Pelosi has been proven (in writing now) to have known all about the EIT and been fully briefed ”
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Wrong again. Factually wrong, morally wrong, and intellectually wrong. Again.
Try it again, chief — this time with a *real* news source.
Just because the page is formatted to look like a newspaper doesn’t mean it’s not a blog post.
Oh, and I like how you’re now declaring factual disagreement to be MORALLY WRONG. Stay classy!
Doesn’t matter; she’s been caught red-handed and all the lying she has done for the past weeks is either going to be swept under the carpet with the entire issue, or she’ll have to go down with them for this non-torture EIT stuff. It’s way too late to put the Pelosi genie back in the bottle now, and he knows it, you know it, and I know it. The story is already broken, the proof is already in the MSM; it’s a done deal.
There were a lot of people who knew about this stuff before it happened. It’ll be interesting to see how many other people will be thrown under the bus before it’s all said and done. The fact that congress voted as a whole on most of the issues facing it during the early stages of the war doesn’t bode well if this is actually going to be an in-depth investigation.
*sigh* No, I’m sure it’ll be the usual game plan when a group of congresscritters gets caught with their hands in the jar — lots of talk about “uncertainties” and “the controversy” (like PM’s shill link), no talk about the issues, until the idea of controversy gets set in people’s heads and the whole issue gets swept away.
On the bright side, it’ll close at least one door on the administration’s witch hunts and (hopefully) get people paying just a little bit more attention to what’s actually going on in the present.
If they didn’t during Bush’s years, they won’t now. Otherwise, we wouldn’t already have a massive deficit to add on to.
C’mon now, Portland Mark? The Huffington Post?
That’s the FOX of the left, after all.
Can’t you do a LITTLE better than that?
“There were a lot of people who knew about this stuff before it happened.”
Of course, including Pelosi, who lied about the extent of her knowledge and support.
Good thing they weren’t uniformed soldier citizens of a foreign land subject to the Geneva convention and doubly good thing that no torture was actually committed, or this whole attempt to smear the right would make Obama look a LOT worse than he already does (when half his friends would have to go down with the ship, that is.) As it is he’s done severe damage to our intelligence, one of the key props and stays that stops attacks from happening. Such as, for example, the attack on LA that was stopped because of the info we got out of Sheikh Mohammed. At least he’s pushing the “no nukes” and cutting missile defense, so when Jong Il or Ahmedinejihad gets theirs, maybe they can do bigger damage than just two measly towers and part of the Pentagon.
At this point, since none of us has a direct phone line to the president, all we can do is sit back and hope that what we fear happening doesn’t happen. The Taliban setting up shop 60 miles from the capitol of Pakistan makes me almost as nervous as Kim Jung Il being the batsh!t crazy dictator that he is. The only thing we can do is wait and see.
Then it should make you even more nervous that, for all intents and purposes, the Taliban are *in* the capital of Pakistan — specifically, their sympathizers in the ISI — and have been at least since the late 90s. It sure does me.
Of course, I have no good ideas as for what to actually do about it…
Somehow I don’t think she has anything to worry about from Bahwney.
Funny — I would have guessed the same about you re Bush. But I forgot, one is a civic duty, the other is stupid troglodyte disagreement with what everyone knows is true YARRR
after obama has “nationalized” a bank you might have a point…
until then you’re just the same moronic right winger that you’ve always been… maybe we can go over tranches again… that was a fun mental exercise in tedium.
Ooooh, a right-winger! Positively scathing! I’m guessing you picked that one up from froo? And let me guess — the guy who cut you off in traffic this morning? Right-winger. The woman who stepped in front of you at the coffee shop? Damn right-winger. And don’t get me started on the old guy who gave you a parking ticket two weeks back.
It’s too bad. If I didn’t already know your M.O., we might be able to have an interesting discussion about the forced distribution of TARP funds, the political pressure applied to TARP recipients, the inability for institutions to pay back TARP funds, the fidelity and accuracy of the recent stress tests, and the potential conversion of government preferred stock into common stock, and how these may or may not be signaling more government ownership and/or control of the big banks. We could also discuss how, using the advanced human capability of forethought, one can be opposed to an action before it actually occurs. (After all, I’m sure you yourself opposed Bush administration policies before they actually became law. And I doubt you were called a moronic left winger for it. But I digress.) But, having recalled the hissy-fit you threw during our last discussion, I suspect you’re less interested in actually talking than in throwing your mighty impressive, yet highly underspecified, industry position and credentials around, then springing your emotional trap on the first person who dares ask you to back up your proof by authority.
So by all means, don’t let me stop you — declare your blind assertions, set up your emotional traps, and yet again open your mouth and remove all doubt. I can’t wait.
Clearly, you see nothing but what you want to see. Ubr is hardly a left-winger. And I’m sure he’d want to have a normal conversation with you if possible, but the fact that you delve into name-calling and frothing within about 3-5 posts totally negates anything good you might have to offer.
Read it again. I didn’t accuse ubr of being a left winger (although it’s interesting that you’d accuse me of the exact same tactic I accuse you of — funny, that…), I accused him of being a shitty, emotional debater.
Considering that the implication of your first paragraph was that ubr will call anyone irritating to him a name that is the opposite of his own system of beliefs, then yes, you called him a left-winger.
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This statement actually threw me for a second:
Do you not realize that when you were asked to back up your credentials you did what you’re accusing ubr of doing?
Read it yet a third time. Now, how does me saying that ubr does something necessarily lead to the implication that I do it to? Please, explain it to me. Do you truly not grasp the disconnect there, or are you being willfully ignorant just to annoy me? (It’s an amused annoyance, but still.)
Now, please show me where I (i) was asked for my credentials — now here comes the important part — AND (ii) used proof by authority to back up my argument. Anywhere? I know there are lots of instances of (i) — but remember, it has to be (i) AND (ii), not just (i). Now, if you don’t see the difference there, then I might start getting annoyed for real.
Not because I have to, but because I can………
Where you were asked for credentials:
http :// punditkitchen .com /2009/04/30/political-pictures-teabaggers-work-ethic/#comment-158166
The thread where you use your experience as proof of your knowledge without actually saying what you do:
http :// punditkitchen. com/2009/04/30/political-pictures-teabaggers-work-ethic/#comment-157980
Oh, right, I forgot — I have to meticulously document everything I say, but you’re allowed to throw accusations around without proof whenever it suits you. How careless of me! Well, thanks for going to all the effort of proving those links when you don’t *have* to…
You’ve linked to something known as an “anecdote” — a small story, generally of personal scope, often shared as a way of interjecting one’s own experience into a discussion. My purpose in mentioning this anecdote was to present something called “negative evidence” — that is, given assertion A, I present evidence B that negates the truth of A, which may potentially weaken the strength of A. (Note that this is distinct from “proof by contradiction”, which generally cannot be done with an anecdote, and which I did not try here.)
I’ll move a little faster now. “Proof by authority” would have been to say something like “I speak from experience here, been a member of management for the last five years.”. If I had said this, I would have implicitly have suggested that my management experience was relevant to the problem under discussion, and it would have been fair to ask follow-up questions to discern whether my authority on the subject was mutually valid to the debaters. (You’ll notice this happened to PortlandMark earlier in the thread.)
So, to sum up, I didn’t assert my *authority*, I presented an *anecdote*. As such, it was fair to ask about my anecdote — and I was asked, and I responded — but my authority was not entered into the discussion, and therefore not required to be backed up or withdrawn. (And, if you’ll read carefully, you’ll notice mothergoose didn’t even ask as part of the argument — he or she asked as an aside, out of what was most likely curiosity. It wasn’t even a relevant part of the debate.)
Yes, I understand that you’re just being stubborn, but all the same, I hope that clarifies things to your satisfaction. I’m growing weary of seeing you make baseless accusations, “supporting” them with irrelevant links, then fading into the shadows when you once again fall on your face. I hope we can move past this unfortunate tendency and each spend time on more productive endeavors.
Oh, and since you didn’t respond to it, I’ll consider your accusation that I consider anyone I don’t agree with to be a left winger to be hereby withdrawn.
I hope I won’t see you mention it again.
And where exactly am I making baseless accusations with irrelevant links?
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Trying to explain the hair-splitting you’re doing in your wall-o-text is pointless, so I’ll let it go. When presented with evidence you ask for, you dismiss it, so there’s no point anymore.
I didn’t say you called everyone who disagrees with you a left-winger, I said that you said that UBR called everyone who disagrees with him a right-winger, implying that he’s calling them a name that is derogatory in his mind, thereby making him a left-winger by default.
Yeah, I can see how this might be overwhelming for you, froo. Bye! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out! And don’t worry, I don’t think you’re acting like a sulking Internet tough girl who can’t have her way — really, I don’t!
Your logic fascinates me. I still have absolutely no idea how you manage to reach that conclusion. But you speak with the pure-hearted conviction of the ignorant and/or the insane, and you used bold text on the Internet, so I guess I have no choice but to agree.
You’re telling me to get out? Honestly? I’m sure that will work, as it’s worked on you in the past when you’ve been pwned, proven wrong, proven to be an idiot talking out your rear, asked to cite and can’t, and told that you’re an ignorant troll who can’t find his ass from his elbow. But really, keep trying to get me to leave a place where I am a regular, have friends, and can actually have an actual conversation backed up by facts and polite statements, and see if that works.
How is this not calling Ubr a left-winger by default, as you clearly imply that he considers being called a right-winger an insult?
I meant leave this discussion, since you’ve obviously been proven sufficiently wrong that you’ve moved on to the whining phase. But hey, way to jump into that shoe.
I do admire your tenacity, however. Even after you’ve been called out, proven wrong, sulked off or slunk away, however many times (three in recent memory, and that’s just in regards to me) — you’re still repeating them as thought that will somehow make them true. Even though it’s probably just because you don’t know any better, I have to admire you for not letting go.
I’ve explained it repeatedly, as clearly as I am capable at this late hour. If you still fail to grasp it, I’m no longer responsible. Ask a friend to explain it to you.
And you never answered my question about what baseless accusations am I making without backing them up. Clearly, you are the better and more seasoned debater here, as you have no need to back yourself up with anything but “anecdotes” of my past doings.
It’s like talking to a brick wall trying to reason or get a clear answer out of you, but hey, I’m bored, so I can do this all day.
Dhoti, don’t you love it? An attempt is made via illogic to paint one into a corner, so one attempts a serious, detailed and thoughtful reply…only to be accused of posting a meaningless “wall of text.” I guess these people have very short attention spans.
Anyway, she’s of no use without the pony to her dog show, and Fister’s been licking his wounds or something, so the trolling on her part has been particularly lame and aimless of late. Or at least it’s brought into starker relief by his absence. It’s kind of cute how she tries to pretend to BE him by saying she only attacks “idiocy” (when that is so obviously not the case – quite the opposite in fact) just as he pretends to do…cute like genital warts.
I never cease to be amazed at people staying where they are either mad all the time, uncomfortable with the topics, arguing with the same people, and throwing names around. Honestly, is all the bile worth it? Why not find a place more conducive to your line of thought, and where people will possibly change their minds when you present your opinion? You and I were having a decent conversation about Pakistan, and then BOOM with the unnecessary insults just because of a completely separate conversation? If I was thought to be an idiot by everyone I’m hanging around, I’d leave where I was hanging around. But then, I’m a rational person, so whatever.
No reply button on your post, so “I never cease to be amazed at people staying where they are either mad all the time, uncomfortable with the topics, arguing with the same people, and throwing names around. Honestly, is all the bile worth it? Why not find a place more conducive to your line of thought, and where people will possibly change their minds when you present your opinion? You and I were having a decent conversation about Pakistan, and then BOOM with the unnecessary insults just because of a completely separate conversation? If I was thought to be an idiot by everyone I’m hanging around, I’d leave where I was hanging around. But then, I’m a rational person, so whatever.”
You also just called me a troll, so much for pleasant conversation. However, I’m perfectly able to compartmentalize and multitask – I can have 3 or 4 separate conversations with you and depending on the topic and your behavior they may be pleasant and they may not be.
“Why not find a place more conducive to your line of thought”
I already have plenty of such places; which vary in their guidelines and rules, and where I have plenty of friendly acquaintances and friends who share at least a core set of beliefs. Some are atheists, some are fundy Christians, some are moral and social conservatives and some are complete social/moral libertines – where we *all* converge is our devotion to the giuding principles of the Declaration, the Constitution, and a love of this country as it is meant to be, and rugged individualism. You as one of the frudenrat can’t comprehend that kind of devotion, which is tragic but I can’t let that bother me too much as it’s something that has to be dealt with firmly.
Now, as to this site, this is as far as comments, thus far, an unmoderated site which does not bar any particular viewpoint nor moderate arguments among members. If you do not like my presence here, that is tough luck for you – I happen to enjoy coming here, I enjoy some of the captions, I enjoy tweaking hard leftists and their stupid captions, and so on and so forth. You’re just going to have to get used to it. It takes all kinds of people to make a world, I like this place, and intend to come around. Until this site it moderated and becomes a leftist domain, it is not one no matter how much you proclaim it to be. Just gonna have to learn to deal. Or perhaps you could enjoy the friendlier conversations we are able to have and you might notice that if you stop throwing so many stones (I realize you don’t understand now how many you throw, and how unprovoked, but you do) you just might find those the majority of conversations.
Call this a wall-o-text and you’re seriously getting reamed.
Wall of text? More like wall of win.
I call em like I see em, and that is a wall-o-text. However, it is a pleasant one (for the most part), so that’s not intended to be an insult. I’m in the process of writing one myself to answer you.
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What I’m referring to with the site more conducive to your line of thought: I dont’ hang out on the Daily Kos because I would be shouted down and cursed at all the time because of my values and beliefs. There is no point in my going because no one would listen to me regardless to my demeanor. You say you have these sites and go to them, so why are you insistent on fighting with people who don’t seem to care about your opinion and won’t change their minds regardless to how much you shout at them?
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Now, I’ve called you a troll because you tend to make “trolling statements” on a daily basis (daily when y ou’re here), usually down at the bottom of the LOLs. I call them “trolling statements” because the only response you could possibly hope to get out of them is either anger or discussion, which is the hallmark of a troll. We all troll, it’s not a big deal. It’s when the trolling turns ugly that it becomes undesired. When you keep it clean, you get treated with a modicum of respect, as has been evidenced over the last couple of days. When you froth, you’re either ignored or made fun of. You’re trying to show me the error of my ways, I’m trying to show you yours.
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I have no problem with your presence here. You seem to have trouble with mine, considering your constant insults and problems with my beliefs and ideals. Just because you and I don’t share the same standard, you have no right to castigate me. You have no right to talk down to me because I don’t run in somewhere, guns blazing, and tell people how they’re wrong. I have a different style in dealing with differing opinions than you do, and it doesn’t make me any less right than you. I have stooped to insults with you in the past because of things like calling me “Fisty’s Poodle”, “FrudenRat”, and the like, which, based off some of your other posts (especially on the Taft LOL and others) is beneath you. You can keep it clean if you try, but when you get called out by those who disagree with you, you get pissy and mean. I refuse to stoop to your level of insult anymore, but you’re welcome to keep calling me a bigot (nice LOL by the way, is it still up?) and a poodle, and see where that gets you. It certainly won’t get you respect.
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I dont’ have a problem having a nice conversation with you, Dhoti, or anyone else here, even the trolls. But don’t stoop to getting pissy and mean if I ask you to cite, if I ask you why, or if I challenge you on something, because that’s just par for the course here. I’ve had to cite my butt off, especially when I first started coming around, just to gain a little credibility with the regulars at the time. There is nothing wrong with being challenged. If your beliefs and facts are as strong as you claim, then a challenge should do nothing but shore those up to everyone else.
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“Dhoti doesn’t cite…”
“Dhoti doesn’t answer questions…”
That must be your mantra, froo. Keep repeating your lies long enough, no matter how many times I prove you wrong, I’m sure they’ll become truth eventually… What was that Anniee said about not even realizing how many stones you throw?
And you never answered my question about what baseless accusations am I making without backing them up. Clearly, you are the better and more seasoned debater here, as you have no need to back yourself up with anything but “anecdotes” of my past doings.
We finally get some more intelligent right wing folks here and you all start fighting amongst yourselves? That’s OUR shtick you copycats, you’re supposed to be the group that presents a United Front, we’re the ones who argue over everything. Annie, Dhoti, froo, eddie, everybody shake hands and play nice, you all like less government, lower taxes, states rights, fiscal responsibility, (uh, help me out here guys, what else is it you believe in? Supply side economics?)
Dhoti, Anniee, Loook at me! Here I am, over here, an actual liberal! Bigger Federal Government Booga Booga! SOCIALISM!!! I’m over here scheming about how to take away your property and redistribute it amongst illegal immigrants so they can pay for abortions, any you guys are fighting amongst yourselves, WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU?
Damn librul and your damn wanting to get along with everyone *grumble grumble*
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Can I just take you home instead?
> Where you were asked for credentials:
> The thread where you use your experience as proof of your knowledge without actually saying what you do:
> asked to cite and can’t
> if I ask you to cite, if I ask you why, or if I challenge you on something
Really, Froo? I’ve repeated on this thread, and others, that you accuse me of not providing cites when asked and of not answering questions — I refuse to believe it’s possible for someone to be that obtuse. I guess it’s just another tactic: if you ignore what I say until after you have to ask, then it lets you pretend you have the high ground, I guess.
I just like smart articulate people, even if they are full of ideas that are bad and wrong, so bad and wrong that we need a new word for it… badrong. Dhoti and Anniee are smart and articulate, so you know, there’s hope for them if only I could stop being so condescending…
People who identify as ‘right wing’ or ‘Republican’ in America are stinging from a defeat, feeling maybe like their country has become something they don’t understand and don’t like. I remember feeling that way when Bush got elected, but you know something? I’ve never in my life voted for someone I thought was going to change things. Always the ‘lesser of two evils’ situation, you know?
I want to see the American Dream work, I want everyone who works hard to have a fair shot, and I want everyone here to have the opportunity to believe that hard work will get you a comfortable life in America. You guys think it’s the government standing in our way, I think it’s the rich by way of the corporations and the government.
Yeah I went and brought ‘class’ into it, what are you going to do about it, ye barmy right wingers? Power to the people! Free condoms and abortions for the workers, beheadings for the rich, we’re doing this thing up French-Style! Yippee kay ey, viva la revolucion!
> I’ve never in my life voted for someone I thought was going to change things.
So you think the system is stacked, but there’s no macro way to effect a change. What’s the point? (And what about Obama’s hope and change motto? Did you think it was just rhetoric and you voted for him because he was the Democrat? Or did you think he was going to fail to change the system less than everybody else?)
Fail to change the system less than anyone else. That is a fairly accurate assessment of how I felt about Obama. I voted for Hillary in the primaries.
I really think that’s how most people vote, Seth. Since there is no way to get the perfect person in the White House who will do all the right things all of the time and please everyone, I think most people just vote for who they think will screw it up the least. Out of the two choices we have. It’s certainly not a perfect system. I wish there was a better way….
Oh Seth you said SOCIALISM!! That’s that eeeevil thing that Obama is turning our country into. How could you?
*balks*
Any method of voting that meets the Condorcet criterion would be MUCH better. Google it if you don’t know what that is, it’s very interesting.
@froo:
I agree, from the people I have talked to and my own personal feelings it does seem to come down to the lesser of two evils. It is sad, but at least we’re not stuck with some half-wit just by accident of his/her birth. We get stuck with half-wits because we sorta kinda put them into office.
I’d be willing to posit that all of them reaching office is an accident of birth, be it a famous father who might or might not have greased the wheels, a mother who decided another race was for her, a guy who grew up with a family tree that didn’t branch and managed to make it into office because he and his wife are political bloodhounds……I know that’s a stretch, but in a way, makes sense.
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I’ll look that up, Seth. I’m about to leave work so I’ll catch it when I get home. Anything that would allow an actual leader in there would be nice, as opposed to the one who can seduce you with his words and leave you raw and chafed and wondering why you said yes again.
@Seth:
Sounds like a happy opioid.
Seth, that is a very interesting method. Too bad about the paradox thing though.
Froo, I see where you’re going, but I don’t like to leave room for imagination in my ramblings. Your theory has been discarded
Well piffle on you then
*is piffled*
Can I say? I love this new game the admins here have invented called ‘find the reply button in the adjustable transformably nesting comments.’
And I made a lol for all my new right wing bestest buddies. It’s vaguely Anti-Obama! Link to my lolz page in my name
Really? Cause I super duper hate it.
Your LOL on the other hand, has been voted for. Even though I am a left wing liberal nutjob.
Now I have to shower
But you could always recaption it that way, if you wanted to. *shrugs*
ugh, why do all the pictures on here have to incite an e-riot?
the kid is cute. the caption is funny. end of story.
But.. but.. if there weren’t e-riots, what would we do with our spare time?
You shouldn’t have spare time, you ignorant wanker! You should be slaving day in and day out, with no time left over for screwing around on the internet and posting on an internet forum to people you don’t know and who are better than you! BLARGH!!!!!
Oh sure, NOW you tell me.. well it’s too late missy, so pffffffffffft.
Classic Star Trek reference FTW!
I’m amazed the prezident is still holding babys he doesnt even know. This is so dangerous like someone could train they’re baby to like grab a knife hidden under the baby’s clothes and like stab the prezident in the face or something! We can train dogs to do tricks so why not babys??
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that’d be kind of bad wouldn’t it? “sorry ma’am, I can’t hold your baby because it might be trained to stab me.” come on.
have a little faith in people.
But that’s a great excuse to not hold babies. I’m going to remember that.
Aaack. President. Babies. Doesn‘t. Their baby.
And that wouldn’t work because babies lack the necessary coordination and upper body strength.
… I want face stabbing babies…
You’re going to have to settle for ill-tempered sea bass.
Damn, I need a cabinet member in charge of messed up espionage ideas.
*random thought*
Face Stabbing Babies would be a great name for a band.
Now if only I had talent… Sure, I could write but the playing part would be the ruin of me.
On second thought, THE Face Stabing Babies would need to be our name. With the article in front of it, they would think it was a practice statement instead of a maturity statement.
*snerk* I giggled
Ya know, this explains a whole lot about his FISA position…
Pelosi Flubbed – man-caused disaster-causing men were glub-glubbed.
Pelosi prevaricated, freedom-fighters were saturated.
LOL
Pelosi going down. I hope Cheney gets his way and all the info is released – Obama’s gonna feel like he been waterboarded!
I want an apology from the person who said that Bush and Cheney, the evil duo acting empirically, ordered torture and anyone who denied any of this or pointed to the Geneva convention’s inapplicability or rules of engagement was “dangerously” deluded, stupid, a liar, etc.
Don’t you have egg on your facies now!
Two links – one with video! One links to an article in the Washington ComPost so don’t tell me it’s a blog. The commentary is still spot-on.
Pelosi goin’ down! Or, you know, the whole thing will just sort of dry up and disappear now that 2 heartbeats away from the presidency is implicated and was supportive. And fully briefed. Guess those CIA guys were none too happy to have been exposed when they were promised anonymity (which is, you know, kind of the point.) They been LEAKIN’! Whooopsie!
I hope whoever had any part of this, Pelosi, Bush, Cheney, ANYONE, gets punished. But you are right, if this is going to make the party in power look bad too, it’s going nowhere. *sigh*
Did anyone get the Twilight reference? Read the last book…you will.
CTRL+F=DUH…
I got to say, I like this. Cute little Vulcan.
Um… Is this Stevie?