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WTF DO YOU MEAN COMEDIANS are asking the hard questions now?

(Edward R. Murrow)

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  1. Yer a hypocrite says:

    This is news to anyone how?

    • Kinoko says:

      Ya, I’m filing this one under “lolwut?”

        • Yer a hypocrite says:

          …is a gobshite.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Ah, you don’t like him… I’m sure we’ll all lose sleep over that…

            • Yer a hypocrite says:

              ..and you wanna rub off your shin hair as you kneel before him.
              So what?

              • Uncle Fester says:

                The most common breeds of pigs used are the British Landrace and Large white. The majority of pigs reared for meat in the UK are crossbreeds. For example, when a Landrace/Large White is bred with either a purebred Landrace or Large White this results in an increased number of stronger faster-growing piglets. Duroc crosses are used extensively in outdoor pig breeding units producing offspring more capable of coping with UK weather conditions in the winter and summer months

                • Yer a hypocrite says:

                  Pigs? Now tell Uncle Siggie why you’re espousing porcine attributes in a public forum. It’s okay, I’m sure your mom knows.

                  • Yer a hypocrite says:

                    LOL!
                    Nighty-night, UF!
                    …to be continued :)

                    • Uncle Fester says:

                      Well, I’ve got enough for an id…
                      thanks
                      please do return. I’m sure the admins will be pleased to see you…

                      • Yer a hypocrite says:

                        BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAAAA….gasp….sniff.
                        You…threatening me with the admins…
                        That’s priceless! I’ll sleep soundly all night with that little gem tucked away in my head!
                        *must…stop…loling*

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          I wasn’t threatening anyone…:)
                          and it’s not night where you are, but anyone that disgustingly obese needs the sleep…
                          You still wearing the Homer Simpson fat people dress:?

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          oh, and you’re now definitely dancing to my tuniee…
                          PWNED!
                          Thank you and good night…

                        • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

                          Unk, you have definitely become my idol. You big manly troll slayer you.

                        • Fester'sSock says:

                          Here come the legion of adoring Fester fans, ready top suck him off so they aren’t made subject to his rambling, which he uses to make himself appear smarter and better than everyone.

                        • Seth says:

                          Wow. You completely misunderstand Fester’s purpose here. You know it’s an act, right? Of course you don’t. He is a persona. Every forum needs a
                          Fester, and you are the reason why. The funny part is that you keep falling for it. You are a complete n00b, and you have no idea why everyone is laughing at you, do you?

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Seth: Have we ever been without at least
                          *one* who hasn’t caught on?

                        • Seth says:

                          Once you get the joke, it’s really funny. Just ask ubr, hehe. But this is the Internet. There will always be n00bs who do not grok The Way of the Tubes

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Oh the troll is only worth ignoring… that’s ID 9, never said a thing worth taking note of… nothing worth the steel, just whinging…

                        • herb says:

                          @Seth: Your piece reminds me of the tune my mother would sing when someone was in a pissy mood: “Every party needs a pooper/ that’s why we invited you…”

                          @Fester: “whining” has no “g” in it

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          Herb, it’s whinging (pronounced win-ging) and is used extensively in the UK and Australia with the same meaning as whining.

                        • meglet says:

                          whinging is better

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          Agreed, you can have a whinge and not sound like a spoiled brat..

                        • Fester'sSock says:

                          insert the legion of adoring Seth fan’s as well, as well all know that Fester and Seth are the gods of the punditkitchen world, thanks for calling me a n00b though Seth. I have been coming to PK for over a year, and posting for nearly as long. Fester likes to call me sock, and ID 9 and others, but, now this will be a real shocker to you all, there is more than 1 conservative that come here.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Give us an old ID so that we can gasp at your wisdom and depth… or more likely, we’ll just Neslon Muntz at the silly monkey who thinks it’s ‘clever’
                          As to ‘more than one conservative, over 65 ‘conservative posters’ were one guy… On to you in particular, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you’re NOT the Alpha Troll, you certainly don’t have anything to say, otherwise you’d have your own ID, but no, you simply crap bomb, since you’re out gunned mentally…
                          So, ID 9, mull on that while you dumpster dive for aluminium cans…

                        • Fester'sSock says:

                          Now Fester, that is no way to treat the poor, you and all your ffriends here should be embracing the idea of wealth redistribution to help me get out of the dumpster and back on my feet…..I have posted under Fester’s Sock, since posting as yourface got me called a sock puppet by you oh master of elocution please enlighten me as to how I am out gunned mentally, since you all revert to slinging insults the moment you are confronted with an issue. And I asl all of you who seem to espouse Liberal viewpoints so wantonly, when was the last time the government did ANYTHING right?

                          Oh and please, save me from the ridiculous mantra of Seth said, Fester said and now the legion of blind seth / fester followers show up to add their own stupid retorts

                        • Seth says:

                          @sock: Issue? What ‘issue’ are we facing here? What ‘issues’ are you bringing up, besides your own bitterness, jealousy, and obsessive/compulsive behavior?

                          The government does things right every day. Have you driven on a road recently? Used a sewer or water system? The government protects us frm the evils of unbridled capitalism through workplace safety laws. Like not being forced to work 16 hour days? Enjoy having weekends off? Is it pleasant not working in a sweatshop alongside eight year olds? Thank the government.

                          How about YOU provide evidence of the government doing things wrong? You never provide facts, just baseless accusations, whining, and other people’s talking points. Back up your points with facts, and don’t resort to name calling and we’ll return the favor by being civil to you. Keep being civil and making good points backed up by cited facts and we could even become friends. Blaming us for reacting to your childish methods won’t get you what you want. You need to take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming everyone around you for your unhappiness. HTH. HAND.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Fester’s Sock seems to have some sort of curious persecution complx. You clai
                          There again, the lies it spouts, while simply being butt hurt, it just gives Conservatives a bad name…
                          I can only assume it’s another ID for the one of the Old trolls….
                          Nothing to see here, just old, sad cretins making loud sad noises about how much of a victim they are on a LOL site…

                        • Fester'sSock says:

                          @Seth, so you think the government has done a great job with Veteran’s health care? You think the government has done a wonderful job with the so called “Bailout” money? You think that road construction run with gov’t regulations and takes far too long because of all the stupid hoops they have to jump throgh is great? Hmm perhaps you also think the welfare system is in great shape Seth. Yeah some work force regulations are needed, you are right there but come on they f*(k up more than they fix. Yeah I bet “unbridled capitalism” is a horrible horrible thing. But that’s ok, we can all just take our bottles from the nany state government and pretend like its all good. Oh and since we are talking about the great things government has done, how about how well they have handled taxes and social security and medicare…. I bet you are real proud of that.

                        • As I recall, the Republicans had a huge wad of time with these issues you claim the government does so poorly on. As for Unbridled Capitalism, I shall refer you to a book called The Jungle which is about just one of those instances in history.

                          Reading is that thing you should do more of. I see your talking points but I don’t see any facts anywhere, care to cite something or actually prove your point?

                        • Fester'sSock says:

                          @ seth

                          Do a google search and you can easily see that Republicans warned about regulation of Fannie and Freddie, Barack OBama Chris Dodd and Braney frank are major recipients of money from Fannie and Freddie, and Frank and Dodd told Republicans that the 2 institutions were fundamentally sound,
                          furthermore when the gov’t decided to move affirmative action to the housing market and lower the standards for people to buy houses THEY COULD AFFORD this whole mess started, thanks Clinton and goons, hmm mall Democrats, I don’t see any trend there at all……

                          See New York Times column Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending

                        • Seth says:

                          @FS: I think the VA is doing a better job than many private sector health care options, yes. Because of the transparency, and the accountability. If the VA were privately run, there would be no recourse when the greedy executives cut funding for vital services. The government may make mistakes, but they are CORRECTABLE. As for googling the things you mention, I did and found nothing except right wing blogs with no sources. And you may want to read the snopes.com article on the NYT article in question. The article you mention is far more nuanced than you make it out to be. Pressure from the government was only one reason. Pressure from stockholders and the institutions that SOLD the loans to fannie and freddie was the bigger reason those institutions relaxed their rules. [LINK] in my name to the snopes article.
                          @DWN: Hehe, I was going to suggest the sock read The Jungle, but I know it won’t because it cherry picks its data to confirm its world-view.

                        • FesterSOck says:

                          @Seth, wow it seems your Snopes.com rebuttal just reaffirms my point. The Democrats stopped the action for allowing oversight, all because they didn’t want to lose their precious source of second income. HELLO I cherry pick my articles? That’s how you want to play it huh? Can’t admit for one second that you could be wrong? That’s so great. and i was totally unaware that
                          opensecrets.org was a “right wing blog” i was also unaware that youtube was a right wing blog and the same with FoxNews, although i can totally understand your not wanting to deal with real facts. Those stockholders were the likes of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, along with Obama. As for The Jungle, I have not read it but that was applied to many many years ago, sure as I mentioned before thee does need to be some oversight by the government but bailing out companies that need to just go bankrupt is INSANE.

                        • Seth says:

                          Who else were the stockholders? How much did any of the Dems actually profit? You need to tell the truth, not repeat lies and misinformation. Find me a CITATION or stop whining. Here’s a cite regarding F&F: “Specifically regarding the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac analysis, the full report listed 354 lawmakers who had received campaign contributions from the group’s political action committee or individuals affliated with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Current members of Congress were found to have received a total of $4.8 million from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, with Democrats collecting 57 percent of that and Republicans collecting 43 percent.” From OpenSecrets.org. Ooooh noes! The DEMOCRATS got 14% more than the Republicans! Go pick more cherries, you aren’t winning any converts.

                        • Fester's Sock says:

                          Which still proves my point Seth, that getting government involved is destructive because politicians run government, and they want their money. Oh noes. you are still unable to be reasoned with because somehow you will find flaws in any proof or logic I put forth, pretty much par for the course….

                          By the way THIS is why George Washington warned against the 2 party system in his farewell address to the nation.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Shame any point you have is undermined by your sub-psychotic jerking around, isn’t it?
                          Ah well
                          Let’s list who else you’ve been…
                          -
                          UncleFestersmokespole
                          UncleFestereatsdick
                          SockFester
                          FesterGoose
                          Ladededed
                          Yousuck
                          SockSock come and get me fester
                          yourmom
                          Fester’sSock
                          wawawawa
                          -
                          Other stuff, the LOLcat “Oh noes” crap doesn’t help, and your homoerotic stalking just makes you seem creepy… Nice to know I REALLY piss
                          you off though, I must have really screwed with your tiny mind for this much attentions.So, the least.I could do was acknowledge my Number One Fan’s efforts at gaining my attention…

                        • If only he could rock a parka…

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          LOL… traditional of fish tail?

                        • Just thinking if he wanted to be your fan, he could try to use your love of men in parkas against you. Dare I bring up your desire for Kurt Russell and Keith David in John Carpenter’s The Thing fan fiction/wet dream?

                        • Fester's Sock says:

                          My Fester, what credit you give yourself! To think that you think Im ust hate you so much and stalk you….. quite funny! What a head you have
                          on those shoulders. And to think you talk about homoerotica
                          when you are the one who fancies Rush with young boys, and painted like a clown no less

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          You’ve gone to great lengths to get and retain my attention… :)
                          You just want me… you know it… :D You’re just in denial…
                          I bet you’re first to the showers at the end of shift, so you can sop your genitals while belly aching about go’dam commies to the poor, benighted souls who have to work the same ungodly, filthy, unskilled, job with terrible hours, and checking them out… Just embrace it, you’ll feel better. Taste the rainbow!

                        • Fester'sSock says:

                          Wow, you’re just a hot tranny mess aren’t you?

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          I prefer to think of it as Rocky Horror Kitsch… rather than your Tom of Finland blue collar crap…
                          and you’re still dancing, my puppet….
                          Come tell me what sort of conservative you are, I think you still owe a definition…

            • Mr.Wholesome says:

              I’m awake right now.

    • lowly grunt says:

      Well, there’s this. [link]

  2. yourmom says:

    FAIL

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Well, we’re up to 8 alternate IDs for this user… only 56 to go to equal Megabob…

    • Mr.Wholesome says:

      How? I mean there have been funnier ones but this one was pretty good and it’s definitely timely with the whole John Steward Jim Cramer raping on the Daily Show the other day. It was pretty awesome but more importantly makes this at least relevant.

      By the way, “yourmom,” “FAIL” is pretty funny when put together.

      • slythwolf says:

        Please find yourself a dictionary and look up the definition of “rape”. Some of us have actually been raped and don’t appreciate people like you using the word to mean “beaten in a debate”.

        • eddiepscetti says:

          I think if you read it in context, I’ll bet the word was supposed to be rapping. I seriously doubt Jon Stewart would be raping on the Daily Show.
          -
          Just a little to hypersensitive, aren’t we?

        • Looks to me as if the definition is not limited to forcible sexual intercourse:

          NOUN:
          1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.
          2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction.
          3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

          TRANSITIVE VERB:
          raped , rap·ing , rapes

          1. To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on.
          2. To seize and carry off by force.
          3. To plunder or pillage.

          How does the use of a term in colorful but arguably proper sense in any way affect your experience? In addition, you might expand on your definition of “people like you”. It sounds somewhat dismissive and divisive; that can’t be how you intended it, correct?

        • And some of us rape victims don’t give a damn so it balances out. Carry on Mr. Wholesome.

    • dropulus says:

      yeppers.

      Jon Stewart Suckup FAIL, to be exact

  3. Wolvie says:

    Only if the cross the chosen one. Also the hard questions are made up by the comedians staff.

  4. mothergoose says:

    Comedians have been asking the tough questions for decades…”What are the words you can’t say on TV?”

  5. Kinson says:

    “WTF DO YOU MEAN people get all their news from COMEDIANS now?”

    Fixed that for you.

  6. First says:

    You guys are dum

    • Danbala says:

      I accidentally your comment.
      Is it dangerous?

    • rhorho says:

      Clover (Trifolium), or trefoil, is a genus of about 300 species of plants in the pea family Fabaceae. The genus has a cosmopolitan distribution; the highest diversity is found in the temperate Northern Hemisphere, but many species also occur in South America and Africa, including at high altitudes on mountains in the tropics. They are small annual, biennial, or short-lived perennial herbaceous plants. The leaves are trifoliate (rarely 5- or 7-foliate), with stipules adnate to the leaf-stalk, and heads or dense spikes of small red, purple, white, or yellow flowers; the small, few-seeded pods are enclosed in the calyx.

      • mothergoose says:

        Rho, how wonderfully appropriate for today…

      • Fester'sSock says:

        Liberalism (Socialism): a mental disorder where one engages in the thought that the government is the answer to all problems and there is no need for personal responsibility or accountability. The basic educational precedent for liberalism are such brash “enlightened thinkers” as Karl Marx and Lenin and the ever popular Uncle Joe Stalin, who was responsible for more death than Hitler. Liberals are easily identifiable by their inability to continue a rational argument without frothing out the mouth and becoming completely incoherent. Liberals are the authors of such educational gems as “GEORGE BUSH MURDERS PUPPIES” and “HALLIBURTON IS EVIL!” Also easy to spot by the complete lack of education when it comes to their candidates. Case and point: Barack Obama, who is doing everything he said he would during his campaign.

  7. Wownik says:

    Jon was brutal. Kinda feel bad for the guy, he had no idea what he was getting into.
    ….roll 210
    ….roll 212

    • rhorho says:

      If you’re not familiar, Jon’s appearance on the old CNN show, “Crossfire,” was classic. I love his line, “Stop hurting America.”

      The [LINK] is long, but worth it.

    • Seth says:

      Yeah, Jon was harsh, but he did admit that Cramer was taking the heat for the entire talking money head industry. And Cramer is no idiot, he knew what he was in for. He wanted the publicity and a chance to apologize, whether that was sincere or not we’ll never know. Cramer didn’t have to make the initial segment about CNBC all about him, but he did. He didn’t have to get all the NBC affiliates riled up, but he did. Jon wasn’t brutal. If he were brutal he would have flat out said what he and the clips implied: “Cramer, it looks as though you lied deliberately and the most obvious motive would be to profit yourself and your friends. Should the FTC investigate your actions?” That would have been brutal.

      • dropulus says:

        Sad thing remains, though – if he hadn’t spoken Unacceptable Truths about Obama, Cramer would not have become a target.

        • lowly grunt says:

          Doofus, Cramer voted for Obama. He said what he did for ratings and money.

        • Seth says:

          The interesting thing about some types of paranoid schizophrenic delusions are their remarkable consistency. The delusion may be obvious to others, but to the schizophrenic, there is no way to disprove it, as the delusion is all encompassing and accounts for any inconvenient facts that might disprove it, in an internally consistent way.

          • rhorho says:

            A neuropsychologist friend of mine explained paranoid schizophrenia
            in a neat way: The picture you see through your eyes is 96-98%
            what everyone else sees (most of the time), with an overlay of
            delusion. The delusional visions are so entirely interwoven into the
            real visions, that the two cannot be separated. The closest way
            non-paranoid schizophrenics can relate to the experience would be
            to think of an illusionist’s performance. The mind incorporates all
            that it takes in at once, and accounts for it, based upon past
            experiences: It genuinely looks like the rabbit was just pulled out
            of the hat. The same thing applies to auditory hallucinations, as well.

            • Seth says:

              I had an acquaintance who did some 5MEO-DMT and came down with a temporary case of Cotard’s Delusion. For about a month, he believed he had died and this was the afterlife. He was quite bummed out, as the afterlife turned out to be exactly like his life. The book “The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat” details some interesting ways in which the brain can go very, very wrong. Perhaps we could write a book entitled “The Trolls Who Mistook a President for a Muslin.”

              • I am not quite sure what it would be called but I know I have related my incident from college at least once here. In college, due to poor planning and more than a couple bad surprises, I ended up involuntarily fasting for most days of each week, losing over 40 lbs when I wasn’t that big to begin with.

                One weekend, I nabbed some Romero classics to watch only to find that I would be alone for the two days. At some point late at night, I snapped and honestly believed I was trapped in my dorm room as the last person alive with the walking dead wandering the outdoors. I didn’t open a blind or make a sound and especially didn’t sleep for over 30 hours. Oddly, a wandering person in the hallway talking on their cellphone snapped the delusion since I had the sadly humorous revelation that zombies didn’t use cellphones, let alone talk.

                In the years afterward, I would occasionally have horrific zombie themed nightmares to which I would wake multiple times in cold sweat. They lessened in frequency since then but they are still the only nightmares to bother me so. The secondary effect is that while I am a lover of horror films, zombie movies actually get under my skin. Which doesn’t prevent me from watching them…

              • He was quite bummed out, as the afterlife turned out to be exactly like his life.

                For some reason I find this quite humorous, although I can sympathize. It WOULD be disappointing, I guess!

                • Ditto, sounds like the ironic hell I would end up in.

                • Seth says:

                  @diss: I found it quite humorous, too. And more than a bit Zen.
                  @DWN: Well I hadn’t heard that one before. Yikes. No sleep and no food would make anyone temporarily crazy.

                  • Seth, I’m curious, did it inspire him to change or improve his life in any way after he realized it wasn’t how he wanted to spend all eternity?

                    • eddiepscetti says:

                      Something similar happened with my ex-wife. After the incident with the knife, I decided to change her life for her and got a divorce.

                      • For some reason that reminds me of the joke:

                        Guy runs into his house and yells to his wife, “Hey, I just won the lottery! Pack your bags!” She gets all excited and asks, “Where are we going? Europe? The Caribbean? A cruise?” He looks at her and says, “Oh, I don’t care WHERE you go, just get out!”

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          LOL!
                          -
                          Unfortunately for me, I wish it had only been a joke. At the time her and one of her friends were on this weird diet where they drank some juice or something that was made from a fermenting mushroom. After a couple of weeks of this, she just snapped and I work up in the middle of the night with her hovering over me with a knife. ‘Shrooms were made for eating, not drinking, and this was the final chapter in an otherwise strange relationship.

                        • :shock: Yes, I think that would officially be “time to go”…my ex had a habit the last couple of years we were married of wanting to turn the lights on to wake me up to argue at 3 in the morning or so, and I thought THAT was bad.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Grown in stale tea?

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          If I remember correctly, I think you’re right.

                        • I’ve read that story before, Eddie, and it always chills me a bit. Then again, I am paranoid so I half expect Lynn to stab me in my sleep anyway despite how much of a lovable kitten she really is.

                        • viking gal says:

                          I expect you are safe with Lynn. Since you love both her and your lads too much to be harmful to them. Most (non-mushroomed) woman are not violent, so long
                          as they have no need to be. Especially well-cuddled love-kittens!

                        • lowly grunt says:

                          Gee whiz, guys; those are some experiences. I’m glad everyone is okay.

                        • Oh yes, I am quite safe with her. My paranoia is my own dysfunction and life experience but I will share that some other time.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          TBH, if you’re getting psychotic episodes with the Manchurian mushroom (Kombucha) then it’s contaminated. Just saying…

                    • Seth says:

                      In the short run, no. He fell into a deep depression for a while. After that, I moved away from LA and lost touch with him. I hear he’s doing much better now.

                  • Ya, and it was just one of the joys of being in college that I had. Least I survived it and it could have been worse…

        • Kelto says:

          Really now. Let me guess, you’re one of those guys that bought into the “Obama Youth” rumors.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Wolvie, my #1 fan, and the 69 Megabob socks all bought the Obama Youth ting…
            I think they wish the GOP had implemented it rather than invent the idea for the Dems… Brown Shirts are more the Social Conservative/Christian Right dream than a Liberal one… Look at the gay abandon with which they like voting on civil rights issues to enshrine second class citizenry in Law while crying ‘will of the people’… Krystalnacht was sold a popular movement too…

  8. George says:

    It’s funny because it’s true. Can someone take a rifle to the Culture of Ignorance please?

    • n8 says:

      Make sure to employ the bayonet, as well as a butt-stroke (giggity!) before pulling the trigger.

    • dropulus says:

      Sorry, but “comedians” are NOT “asking the hard questions”; Stewart is liked by people whose ideology he promotes. Be real, guys.

      • Actually, I know a lot of self-identified conservative and centrist Republicans who think Jon Stewart is smart and funny. Some people can stand to have their views challenged and laugh about it, it’s AMAZING! Grow a sense of humor.

      • n8 says:

        Sorry, but your assertion is not true simply because you prefix it with ’sorry.’ Try backing it up with some facts.

      • rhorho says:

        [LINK] Full interview, Daily Show, 12 March, 2009.

        I can tell you haven’t seen the interview, so I’ve linked it under my name. Seriously, watch part of this, and see if you don’t change your mind.
        I think you’ll be surprised: There is very little (if any) partisan content, so
        you might agree with some of it, even.

        • FaileV says:

          that interview was really amazing though. I turned it on to see if he’d just joke around a bit with cramer and then go to other stories, i was pleasantly surprised in that one.

  9. Skor says:

    I wonder if Stewart will ask those same tough questions of Pelosi when the national debt can’t be paid off… “Couldn’t you see this coming?”

    • Fester'sSock says:

      Maybe one day someone will ask Barney Frank and Chris Dodd some of those hard questions, or even Barack Obama, who stood as one of the largest beneficiaries of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae….. oh wait I am not supposed to mention facts, just be a slobbering conservative incompetent. Maybe someday all of our leaders will be asked the really tough questions like “Why do you tax the crap of the American citizen and corporation and cause jobs to go overseas and punish business for wishing to be in the US? Why wouldn’t you revise the tax code to make it less convuluted and better for business to create jobs in America?”

      • Uncle Fester says:

        Empty crap bomb from a personality disordered loon…

      • Seth says:

        I wish you would mention facts instead of baseless allegations and meaningless anecdotes. Please, the tough questions have been asked. It’s not our fault you don’t like the answers. If you have some kind of proof of your allegations, why not provide it?

        Do you know what our real effective average tax rate is in America, as a percentage of GDP? It’s 28.3 percent. That’s FAR lower than almost any other country in the world. Click on my name for sources. See, THAT is how you argue a point: with facts backed up by references.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Pissing in the wind, seth…

        • Fester'sSock says:

          So then since our taxes are so low and wonderful we must not do anything like say: tax corporations when they produce, tax them again when they export, have them be taxed for importing to another country, and since, wait for it, this is priceless, corporations don’t pay taxes they pass them along to the CONSUMER that makes the cost of items go up and companies less likely to perform globally against tax systems that are less likely to punish a corporation for manufacturing and selling goods globally. I know that basic economics isn’t really a strong suit for you since you profess socialist agendas. Want my reference, visit Americansforfairtaxation.org.

        • FesterSOck says:

          citing Wikipedia seth? come come now, surely someone must have told you that anyone can edit that site right? I mean you accuse me of cherrypicking information so I though I would return the favor…..

          • Seth says:

            Don’t play stupid. You can check all previous editions of pages at wikipedia, and everything there is backed up with CITATIONS. Follow the links. Wikipedia is a great place to START your research, and gives a good, unbiased overview. You really need to educate yourself better. What you just did is a logical fallacy called ‘poisoning the well.’ You are attempting to cast aspersions on the source rat5her than refuting the points made by the source. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

      • rhorho says:

        Oh, so you like using the Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd sound bite?
        Have you ever looked into who all is responsible for the meltdown? Here’s
        a hint: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in need of regulation, but their
        troubles did not cause the economic mess we’re in. Why didn’t Bush push
        for regulation and reform of FMae and FMac? Even McCain went against
        his party to call for reform, if you remember.

        If you’re not clear on the tax reforms by now, you’re beyond help, so I’m
        skipping that one on purpose. You do have a good point for less convoluted
        tax code, especially for individuals. The Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995
        and the online filing system are the only two improvements I can recall.
        At my income level, it shouldn’t take me a full day to get my taxes done,
        considering that I’m a careful records filer throughout the year.

        Obama has pledged to stop giving tax breaks to companies shipping jobs
        overseas, so you’re on the same side there. ExxonMobil needs my help as
        much as the AIG bonus-getters do, imo.

        As to the rest, why don’t you get your OWN name? You will get more
        respect if you don’t depend on another person for your ID. Surely you
        can stand on your own two feet, yes?

        • Fester'sSock says:

          BUsh did push for reform genius, so did the Republicans.

          See the links I sent, the interwebs keeps eating them when I paste in hear

        • FesterSOck says:

          now you shouldn’t insult Fester like that, he helped me pick this name of course, since he is so loving and wonderful to everyone in his condescending been everywhere done everything manner. He might get upset with you rhorho and take away your ability to mimic him and his stupidity, and of course then Seth would follow suit and you would be an outcast, then you might starting doing real research and discovering that you have been fooled by smoke and mirrors all along.

          • Seth says:

            The culture of PK was like this before Fester or I ever got here. We haven’t been here that long, you know. Me, about six months. Fester less than that. Neither one of us has any special powers or stature here. You think I didn’t get my butt kicked when I first started posting here? Go back and read some older LOLs. And nobody likes Fester to this day, he’s a horrible, horrible troll. Hehe. But we respect him, because he just doesn’t care.

            And there we come to the crux of your problem. Just. Laugh. It. Off. It’s a LOL site and we’re all just here whistling past the graveyard that is world politics. Just let it go and realize it’s all a game. Or don’t, continue to take it all personally, see if anyone cares. It’s your choice to take it like that, it’s not something anyone is doing to you.

            But I have to say, and I’m really trying to be objective here, is that from the outside, and don’t take this the wrong way now, from the outside you come across as a whiny little princess who can’t stand not being the center of attention and I know in my heart that isn’t the kind of person you want to be. Is it?

            • Fester's Sock says:

              WOW, me the whiny little princess who can’t stand not being at the center of attention, what doe that make Fester then? And who says I’m not laughing?

              • Uncle Fester says:

                I see you’ve sobered up since last night, typing master…
                New mail too… well, that’s a disguise beyond the wit of all here and no mistake…
                :roll:
                The Charles Middleton school of villain… not terribly impressive…

                • Fester'sSock says:

                  same mail Fester, same mail…. I just wanted to impress you. Since you are so involved in your own vanity I thought I would help you reputation here by allowing everyone to see that you named me, perhaps I could change my name to Fester’s Troll?

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    Impress? Other than by dying, nothin g much you do could impress me…
                    but I still find it funny that I’ve got so far under your skin that of the 10 different id you’ve used I’m named in 7 of them… I must have really pissed you off, means I’ve been hitting nerves to make you dance for me…
                    Dance some more…

            • n8 says:

              I like the crusty old git well enough, if for nothing else than the mania he inspires in right-wing toolbags.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Well, I’d still say you’re just a cretin with no real intelligence, wit, or experience other than blowing off to the other poor b*stards who work the same grave yard shift.

        • minerva146 says:

          I’m pretty sure I know who this is, rho… :)

  10. IndieTarheel says:

    Wow, my initial entry on the front page.
    Thanks!

  11. sawdude says:

    freakin sweet

  12. google says:

    good site ,you have excellente music


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