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BABIES HAPPEN
They’re just more likely to happen if you teach your teenagers abstinence only.

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  1. Myranda says:

    I disagree — hormonal teenagers are gonna do it with or without sex ed and with or without condoms.

    • Myranda says:

      But it IS funny, and spelled right, too. WIN!

    • RankMyTyping says:

      I dunno…some will yes, but some teens actually do listen to the stuff, even if they don’t want to admit it.

      • Musicmom870 says:

        They do listen, and those who promise abstinence probably mean it very sincerely. Logically, in the face of all the evidence, in the cold hard light of the classroom or Sunday school room, abstinence is clearly the better option for teens. Then one night, opportunity knocks, and smiles…and whispers sweet nothings, and feels so damn good……and the kids without some real sex-ed don’t have a clue how to even use birth-control, and certainly don’t have a box of anything useful in their bureau drawer. So they do it anyway, then pray. Do you know how effective prayer is in preventing pregnancy???

      • Danbala says:

        Yeah, sure. Some teens are so fugly they can’t even get in on the race while the hormones are rampant, I hear. ;p
        I think the point is that it’s A-OK to choose not to have sex, but it’s nigh on impossible to do it with proper precautions if all you’ve been taught is “Just do it, not.”

    • Evils says:

      Maybe if they were more informed by Sex Ed and had Parents that weren’t afraid to tell their kids about condoms, we’d see a decrease in young mothers.
      At least informing them of their options is better then just giving them one option that they are obviously not going to follow.

    • Yuko says:

      Yes they are but they are MORE likely to do it if you tell them No. That way it seems more hot.

      • Saint says:

        I could make a comment about having sex with teenagers and how when the say “no” it seems more hot.. but that would be just wrong!

      • Danbala says:

        I think it’s not quite that simple, but I think it’s getting near the truth as I see it. :)
        I believe you’d get more sensible sex-debuts just by demystifying it and making it less “cool”. The US, to me, seems to do the opposite, where sex is much more harmful than violence etc.

    • Danbala says:

      Yes, but if they are educated about STDs and condoms they sure are more likely to use one than if they have no clue.

      • pdq says:

        Yup. AND getting rid of this notion that ‘it just happens & you can’t control it’. You can control yourself long enough to put on a rubber, for crap’s sake. Too much friggin’ TV and too many bad movies reinforce this notion that you’re helpless in the face of desire.

        • Danbala says:

          I think you might have touhed on one very vital thing about sex ed there. If teachers would refrain from “it should be saved till marriage and that’s good” and switch to something like “most of you will have your first fuck rather soon, when you’re drunk or otherwise intoxicated – it will be awkward (and if you’re female probably painful) and you will, statistically, end up regretting the first peneteration. But, for the love of sanity, use a condom, so you won’t have to regret gonnorhea (which is starting to get untreatable courtesy of MRSA) or HIV at least ” … some of the glamour might fade. It’s ironic that one of the most sex-centered nations has been opting to go “OH NO YOU WON’T” on the poor teens.

          • Danbala says:

            … if you’re rally concerned about abortions, you should friggin’ force all past-puberty teens to wear all possible form of contraception all the time. (Unless you’re sadistic enough to enjoy the notion of voluntary sin and punishment more.)
            .
            On a totally unrelated note – shouldn’t most “love the sinner, hate the sin”-christians be very, very, VERY much for gay marriages? I mean – if homosex is the sin, marriage seems excellent to save them with. We all know that married couples have bugger all sex, yeah?

            • FaileV says:

              i had a catholic friend try to explain it to me once. I’m sure this doesn’t work for most, if not all the other denominations, but his explanation is, they don’t find homosexuals to be evil. it is something you can be born as. However sex is for making babies, and marraige is a contract, that makes you together in the eyes of god, to make babies.
              so someone who is gay and has been sexually active is only as sinful as someone who is having premarital sex, or no baby sex.

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              I call bullsh*t on that argument because the Catholic church has no problem with couples who are past child-bearing age or couples who can have kids having sex. I’m not calling it on you, FaileV, but on whatever dipsh*t fed you that pack of crap.

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              Can’t not can.

            • Danbala says:

              Yes, that’s what I’d go for too. If marriage is truly about building a family, no couple who haven’t managed to breed yet should have the right to marriage. (And no woman past menopause, ofc.)

            • Safford says:

              @FaileV

              Marriage is actually a covenant, not a contract. there’s a difference, though i don’t have the entire argument in my head. I read it in a book by a highly regarded Catholic guy

    • Jojo says:

      Yeah whoever posted this is a moron.
      Even if your kids are still gonna go out and mess around, you should still tell them whats right and whats wrong.
      Just giving up is terrible parenting and THAT is what causes kids to screw up their lives.

    • perdaniel says:

      The point is that with sex ed they are more likely to know how to use condoms, and that greatly reduces the risk of pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

    • Marshy says:

      I had to go through the absintnce only program. They were basically saying “birth control has a 100% fail rate so you might as well not use it anyway”. My school has soooo many teen mothers and prengant teens. If you teach them about BC, they may still not use it but if they at least know about it and that it decreases risk of pregnancy there’s a bigger chance that they will use it. Studies have shown that teens who pledge abstinence are just as likely to have sex as those who don’t but much, much less likely to use BC (since it would mean preparing for something they promised not to do).

  2. Katt says:

    LOL Nice.

    Myranda you make a good point, but when parents let teachers lie to kids about the effectiveness of condoms and birth control they have no one to blame but themselves.

    • kahneiac9 says:

      don’t get me on this topic. I was in a debate in class on this topic and I won. Oh yeah, I was for Sex Education programs and completely against abstinence, and I can refute ANY statistic you throw at me and how abstinence only programs don’t work. So bring it anyone :)

      • Yugio69 says:

        Why are you against abstinence? Some people choose to abstain, and it works for them. Are you against them for doing it?

        • FaileV says:

          i think she is talking about programs. It’s one thing if a person is taught all the options and chooses to abstain. that’s a fine plan and if it works for you that’s great, but it doesn’t work for everyone, and expecting that is not a good form of sex ed, especially when they lie about the available options. I went to an abstinence only program when I was younger and they told me that condoms do NOTHING. that i would just as likely get pregnant or get an STD, so until college i was under the impression that was true. when you teach a kid that, they won’t think of using condoms if the time does come. that isn’t okay.
          Sexual education doesn’t mean you have to go out and have sex. it just shows you how to use contraception if you choose not to abstain.

        • kahneiac9 says:

          definitely not against abstinence. If you choose to abstain, great for you! I know I sure as hell didn’t and I really don’t expect most teenagers to. I do believe in teaching them the right ways. STDs are a huge problem and if you don’t know about the dangers of sex when you’re younger, you’re going to 1. get pregnant 2. have an STD or 3. Have both.

          Planned Parenthood is a wonderful source of all information.

        • Katt says:

          I’m not against abstinence I’m against lying to kids about birth control, via my comment. I never even mentioned abstinence, but I’ve read the curriculum and it’s full of lies.

          I.e sperm can travel through a perfectly unbroken condom.

      • Dhoti says:

        Do you mean actual, Brigham Young-style abstinence-only programs, or abstinence-plus that gets branded as abstinence-only for political reasons?

        • Uncle Fester says:

          So, is that a real question or performance art?

          • Dhoti says:

            Go back and read my comment slowly and carefully, sounding out each word as necessary. Then, spend a moment thinking about those words together, and what they might mean. Then, speak.

            k?

            • froofrou says:

              Go back, read my complete and utter annihilation of you in the other lol, and come back and try to speak without a twitch. Get over yourself.

            • Dhoti says:

              My, but we have a high opinion of our flaming ability, don’t we? It’s a shame you’re obsessively searching through comments here than putting them to use somewhere else.

            • Dhoti says:

              Oh, and trolling by imitation? Played out.

            • froofrou says:

              And where do you suggest that I put the other comments to use?

            • froofrou says:

              I’m just waiting for you to answer my original question, since I went ahead and answered yours.

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              Dhoti got spanked so hard masochists were complaining at the level of intensity.

            • Dhoti says:

              I can’t even tell you how impressive the pundit kitchen best and brightest truly are.

            • froofrou says:

              While you still have yet to back up a single claim. All I’m asking is for ONE question to be answered. That’s it. Just one.

            • Dhoti says:

              Look, I’m not going to play this hypocritical little game. You told me you could back your position up — but surprise, when I pressed you on it, facts became opinions and you couldn’t actually support anything. Somehow, that’s a perfectly acceptable tactic for you, but not falling for the bait is a moral failing on my part. I guess it’s because any dissenting opinion is “not a legitimate part of the debate” or whatever the code word for conformity is this week.

            • FaileV says:

              honestly everytime you are asked to back up what you say with fact you say it’s beneathe you and you won’t play the game or whatever. you’re fritting around here like a hotshot running your mouth then dancing around answers. If you were really that intelligent you’d realize it would take two seconds to find a link and shut everyone the hell up, but no, you’d rather waste your time telling everyone how they like to shut down opinions when you have done nothing but.

            • Dhoti says:

              Again, you’re missing the point. Froofrou lied, and very obviously — he started off with facts that he could prove, that, surprise surprise, turned into personal opinions when he actually had to put up. That’s sleazy, hypocritical, and lazy.

              What part of this progression escapes you?

            • froofrou says:

              Once again, I post the SAME LINK I posted on the last LOL in answer to your challenge. Geithner speaks, the stock market drops.
              -
              Where is your proof of your 90%?

            • FaileV says:

              the part where you conveniently use frou as a scapegoat to distract from the fact mothergoose asked immediately where you pulled your info from, and you never answered. I’ll give you frou lied (she didn’t, she gave an answer, but i’ll give it for the sake of the argument) but the other 4 people that asked you to back your stats didn’t. You made a blunt statement that it is 90% obama’s fault that the economy is tanking, and you never gave any proof at all. You can continue dancing around and singing a song about how we’re just trying to shut down different ideals, but until there’s any evidence you didn’t pull a stat from your ass, it’s just ignoring a person with loud opinions.
              I’m not sure how it still escapes you that just a simple link to a source would appease almost everyone here. Perhaps it doesn’t and you really are just an idiot that painted themself into a corner.

            • Johnathan says:

              @everybody- anybody interested in maybe talking about the topic instead of poking each other with hot tongs? I’m just sayin’, nobody here seems especially retarded, and as much fun as it is having (and reading) pissing matches online, it would be kinda cool to see what people thought. Just my one cent, but you two hate each other, you could just keep hurling insults, or you could either debate or ignore each other, either of which would lead to lower blood pressures.

            • Dhoti says:

              @froofrou, no one’s arguing that, on at least one occasion, the market fell after a Geithner speech. Proof of it occurring once, however, does nothing to back up your 60% assertion (certainly not your much les than 60% assertion), nor to distinguish Obama himself from a top administration official. However — if that’s all you’re looking for, this link is the DJIA for 2/25, with Obama’s daytime economic recovery remarks highlighted. It’s as much proof of my 90% as yours is proof of your 60%.

              @FaileV: I don’t have the time or the energy to keep up five separate threads all about the same point — this is an occasional distraction from my day job, after all. I’m going to pick one at most that looks promising and run with it, and given the sort of flaming mothergoose was pulling elsewhere, she wasn’t it. If she was really that interested in an answer, she could have read the thread that was there.

              @Johnathan — point well taken. Hopefully this will wrap things up.

            • froofrou says:

              My original assertion was that Geithner speaks, stock market drops. I’ve proven that, I’ve already admitted that the 60% was a guesstimate on my part, something that you have not yet done with your 90% figure that you can’t back up. Your constant lack of cites, backpedaling, throwing up straw men, red herrings, and changing the subject, along with your personal attacks, mark you as the lowest of the low: someone who is only out to GET flames, not to actually have a rational discussion with anyone about anything.
              -
              As far as me not being interested in your answers, you STILL have not given any answers. You continue to assert that Obama is responsible for 90% of the stock market drop, while not being able to back that up. How is that an answer? Your link proves nothing of your claim. It only proves that the DJI dropped, not that “90% of the drop is directly caused by Obama speaking”
              -
              I might take you seriously if you weren’t so silly.

          • Johnathan says:

            Not a huge fan of Dhoti (nothing personal), but this seems like a fair enough question. There is demonizing on any political issue, would you like to explain why you want to teach kindergartners every detail about sex (to turn the demonizing to the other side). I think even the real abstinence-only programs are worthless, but this is a fair question to get a good debate started. I’ll play nice and respond: those paragons of virtue at Brigham Young.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              If you’ve read Dhoti’s previous stuff, it’s more or less the text equivalent of draining a septic goitre on a Korean pot bellied pig… dense, pungent, but not something you’d want on your shoes…
              And I learned the ‘facts of life’ courtesy of a BBC Schools programme, at the age of 6 when I was off school ill with tonsillitis. I don”t think it scarred me as much as it did my mother, when I explained to her how things worked… it was a mildly interesting side bar to my primary interests of colouring in and reading my brother’s war comics

            • Danbala says:

              it’s more or less the text equivalent of draining a septic goitre on a Korean pot bellied pig… dense, pungent, but not something you’d want on your shoes…
              And the high pitched squealing!
              Oh, the squealing …

        • ACSIS says:

          ‘abstinence-plus’ aka ‘everything but’

    • IvanTheMildlyAnnoying says:

      Can you elucidate on that comment please? How are teachers lying about the effectiveness of condoms and birth control? I would think that a condom is far more “effective” at preventing teen pregnancy than, say, riding bare-back. And everyone knows that you are NOT going to stop teens with their raging hormones from having sex.

      • anon says:

        They “lie” about the effectiveness in that they include user error. Correctly used, for example, hormonal birth control is ~100% effective. But it’s only listed 95% or so, due to people being misinformed on how to use it (such as trying to use it after the fact to prevent pregnancy).

        As a result, condoms are only listed as about 60-70% effective. Ignorant people latch onto this and say they’re horribly ineffective compared to abstinence. Correctly used, it’s in the upper 90%’s.

        • Lefty says:

          I shudder to think at someone using a condom “after the fact” to truly try to prevent pregnancy like some people do hormonal birth control pills.

          F: Honey, I’m pregnant. . . I know we didn’t mean to, but–
          M: Quick! Take your birth control pills! Hurry! They’re like, 100% effective against the preggers, right?
          F: I think that’s before-hand.
          M: *straps on condom* Hurry up, let’s do this the right way before your ovaries notice that we weren’t using them for the past three weeks.
          F: . . . Okay.

        • Ceefax says:

          Don’t forget members of the Catholic Church telling people that condoms don’t prevent AIDS :rolleyes: Oh, and that condoms are actually deliberately infected with AIDS by evil Europeans to try and wipe out Africans, that’s a good one too.

          • pdq says:

            “members of the Catholic Church telling people that condoms don’t prevent AIDS ”
            “condoms are actually deliberately infected with AIDS by evil Europeans”
            Cee – huh? I missed those gems, where did you get those? Was Pope Nazi out & about again without his mouthguard?

            • FaileV says:

              I think that one originated in africa. There was once a mass sterilization at the hands of the europeans, so later when the untrustworthy europeans asked people to wear condoms ideas of condoms containing aids, or they’ll make your dick fall off popped up.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              If one does a pretty desultory google search, there are significant amounts of disinformation from Roman Catholic/Conservative Church sources… The current one being that latex is permiable ‘under certain circumstances’ to viral particles, ignoring that 99% of
              condom are Noxynol-9 or -11 spermicidal lubricant, that has been show to kill the HIV retrovirus quite effectively, and impair the infective abilities of Herpes.
              Lies, damn lies and pronouncements of the church, one feels…

  3. cjmitchell says:

    that’s probably the stupidest reason ever to promote promiscuity… Not teaching abstinence. It’s not that hard (no pun intended)

    • horrorthorn says:

      Actually abstinence only sex ed is proven to not to work… it literally has no effect on teenagers… studies show that those who abide by it would have obstained anyway… also how is this promoting promiscuity? Its not just a black and white issue…

  4. meh says:

    As long as people aren’t lying about other options I think abstinence programs are a good thing. Sex is fun but abstinence is the only 100% effective way to prevent unwanted outcomes.

    • horrorthorn says:

      There is nothing with Abstinence being talked about or being strongly suggested… but adding other options to that is just more logical that Abstinence Only…

    • Tessie says:

      “abstinence is the only 100% effective way to prevent unwanted outcomes.”
      `
      Never getting into a car is the only 100% effective way to prevent getting in a car accident. However, what it is not is an effective way of learning how to be a good driver.

      • Yugio69 says:

        Yeah, but you can sure get a lot of practice driving with a joystick and a monitor!
        -
        (What? I play Pole Position! Okay, that didn’t help, did it?)

      • Safford says:

        good thing you have to be licensed to drive, sort of like how you should have a license before you get it on. just my opinion.

        and abstinence is only 99.999999% effective. Just ask Mary

      • Never getting into a car is the only 100% effective way to prevent getting in a car accident.

        Not really, you can still get hit by one.

        • Tessie says:

          I’m such a fussbudget that I actually thought of that, but I couldn’t think of any way to word “car accident” so that it was implicitly distinct from “car hitting a pedestrian” (or “getting hit by a car”, depending on your point of view).

  5. Sinderlin says:

    Abstinence programs are pure comedy. At least for Canadians and Europeans.

    • meh says:

      Why? I don’t think most people here are talking about the religious
      “have sex and your penis will fall off” programs. There are all sorts
      of people who abstain. Why is it a joke? (This isn’t sarcastic I really am asking)

      • AC says:

        You mean when people have sex their penises DON’T fall off? :shock:

      • Sinderlin says:

        There’s nothing wrong if someone decides to abstain but teaching your children that abstinence is the single most effective way of contraception is plain stupid. A teenagers life is unpredicatble and as a parent the best you can do is to enable them to make their own decisions.

        • ubr says:

          but abstinence is the single most effective way of not getting stds and not getting pregnant…

          • StreetPreacher says:

            I think by “single most,” Sinderlin means “only.” Yeah, not doing it at all is the best way to prevent negative side effects, but prophylactics have come a long way and ignorance never helped anyone.

          • Sinderlin says:

            Let me quote someone who already made a point:

            “anon
            March 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

            They “lie” about the effectiveness in that they include user error. Correctly used, for example, hormonal birth control is ~100% effective. But it’s only listed 95% or so, due to people being misinformed on how to use it (such as trying to use it after the fact to prevent pregnancy).

            As a result, condoms are only listed as about 60-70% effective. Ignorant people latch onto this and say they’re horribly ineffective compared to abstinence. Correctly used, it’s in the upper 90%’s.”

            Abstinence also only works if you do it right…

            • viking gal says:

              I tell my students that abstinence is best. And if you can’t do that, phone sex. (internet might bring viruses, after all!) But that any contact has risks. You can catch something just from touching! Then: ALL the contraceptives and how they do/don’t work, and all I know about safer sex…and then the realities of pregnancy and labor and STD’s. Knowledge gives one pause, as well as power. Anything less is not fair to the young folk!

          • Danbala says:

            That and death seem about equally excellent in that aspect.

    • FaileV says:

      it’s a tragic comedy to many of us in the US. schadenfreude.

    • Danbala says:

      I had no idea how much they’ve increased in the US system, either. When I read up on it today I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. But then I laughed.

  6. Czernobog says:

    Shallow gene pool is shallow.
    Also: Abstinence. ur doin it wrong.

  7. Captain Wow says:

    Everytime I think about abstinence only education I think about that coach on Mean Girls. “Don’t have sex because you WILL get pregnant AND DIE. *picks up a glass jar of condoms* Here, take some rubbers.”

  8. lowly grunt says:

    When’s the wedding?

  9. AC says:

    The recent comments box is amusing: “In a democracy babies happen.”

  10. 11110 says:

    “Republicans have been the party of Big Business and depression; the Democrats have been the party of the Common Man and of war.”

    Analyze in what ways this statement applies to TWO of the following events:

    Panic of 1893 and Spanish-American War

    Panic of 1907 and World War I

    Great Depression and World War II

  11. 11110 says:

    Wednesday is essay-question day. Remember!

  12. hb says:

    Actually, Bristol’s school didn’t teach abstinence only…

  13. Mo says:

    yep cuz i gots to have me sum sex before i have a withdrawal yuhur

    good thing i based mah wholee schedule around mah sex life

    love me some smex mhm

  14. Hate me! says:

    I miss the days where children were a blessing, not a curse.

    • MLD says:

      pretty sure children to an unmarried teen are usually curses not blessings.

      • Hate me! says:

        Yeah but it’s their own damn fault. Outside the case of rape.

      • Yugio69 says:

        Asshole.

        • MLD says:

          Were you calling me an asshole, or did you reply to the wrong person? If it was me, and my opinion that kids shouldnt be having kids makes ma an asshole, then so be it.

          • death by kewt says:

            Doesn’t really matter if you’re an asshole or not. You shouldn’t make assumptions that babies born to unmarried teens are curses and not blessings, IMHO.

            • FaileV says:

              the problems with this sort of thing is it works for some people, and others it pushes them into poverty, they become emotionally stunted, and all other problems that last a lifetime. Unplanned teen pregnancy is more likely to be a curse on the mother and child than planned adult pregnancy. but of course there are variables and a huge scale for people to fall into.

            • Danbala says:

              You shouldn’t make assumptions that babies born to unmarried teens are curses and not blessings, IMHO.
              I read the keyword as “usually”, and I think that’s a valid guesstimation.

    • Jessi says:

      From the two pregnant teens I’ve known, I’ve observed that teen pregnancy is a curse, but the baby itself is always still a blessing. Of course both teen moms I’ve known had families that supported them and helped them finish their education. Up to, and including, college level education.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      I miss the days where children were a blessing, not a curse.

      When was this mythical golden age?

  15. darri says:

    Yes, and for Bristol abstinence worked not just once, but twice.

    She was out of school for five months right before “Trig” was born. That’s the down syndrome baby that the family probably planned to get adopted out to a member of their church, only the adoption fell through. Suddenly Sarah Palin announces SHE’S preggers to cover up for Bristol. And then you see photos of Sarah going from a completley flat baby to silly fake pregnancy pillows in the span of literally three weeks, trying to make it look like she was pregnant. Pretty amazing actually.

    Bristol must have bought into the lie that you can’t get pregnant after you give birth, or you can’t get pregnant while you’re breastfeeding…because, WHAM, she turned around and got pregnant with Tripp. By that point I think her mom had enough of covering for her, thus the rather mean way in which she suddenly announced to teh ENTIRE world that her daughter was pregnant. Unwed, high school dropout, two babies, one of which she has to lie about and pretend it’s her mom’s – Bristol has a total Jerry Springer life going on for her.

    All because abstinence worked out so well.

    Check out the palin deception blog for all the clear details about what went down.

    • rhorho says:

      Check out the palin deception blog for all the clear details about what went down.

      Please tell us what you’ve discovered about the Kennedy assassination!!

    • Uncle Fester says:

      I have proof the moon landing was faked [link]

      • rhorho says:

        Wow!! It’s a good thing you caught that one!! Think of all the money the US can save by eliminating those charlatans called NASA!!

        • Uncle Fester says:

          It’s about 15 cents per adult per week… where would you spend your 15cents?

          • Uncle Fester says:

            (That was a joke btw… I have no idea of Nasa’s current funding…)

            • Saint says:

              18 1/2 cents a day.. .so close..

            • FaileV says:

              i had a science teacher that worked for nasa, great guy, he had a funny story about how NASA would have to go request funding with the military. So they ask the military “what happens if we don’t give you this money” “all our lives will be in danger, we won’t be prepared to defend ourselves ect. ect.” then nasa is asked “what will happen if we don’t give you this money” “we…don’t get to look at…space anymore”

            • rhorho says:

              @FaileV: Great story! It makes you wonder how they ever got off the ground–ar, ar!

            • Uncle Fester says:

              Based on the way they used stats and the major design flaws in the shuttle, blind luck.

    • froofrou says:

      What irritates me about the idiocy in your post is that you think that physical appearance means anything in a pregnancy. I literally went from people asking was I faking my pregnancy to looking the 7 months pregnant that I was in a matter of days. It’s all in how you carry the baby, your genetics, your frame, how much weight you gain during the pregnancy, how in shape you are….
      -
      Please, get off the drugs now before the men in white coats come to take you away. Sarah Palin did not fake her pregnancy with Trigg.

  16. MLD says:

    Am I the only one sick of these jokes? They were amusing when we found out she was pregnant for for cripes sake, she’s HAD THE KID. It’s OLD by now

  17. Kelly says:

    teaching abstinence has never worked because even teens know that sex feels great. the best you can do for them is to keep them safe, knowing that there is no other way to help them.

  18. Saint says:

    The best Sex Ed talk I ever heard was this: “None of you little miscreants have any business playing in the rain. But, If you have to venture out in that weather, wear a damn raincoat!” Thank you MSGT. Dill, 9th grade ROTC instructor. It doesn’t matter what you teach kids, some are going to listen, some are going to ignore it. I had sex ed for 5 years in school, my mom gave me the talk, I heard it at church, and I still ignored it. I’ve never worn a condom in my life, and I’ve had a pretty promiscuous life during the 10 years I’ve been sexually active. I’m damn lucky I’ve never contracted anything, and don’t have 20 or 30 little mini mes running around. If I could go back and do it all over again, knowing what I know now, things would be different. I still don’t wear condoms, but then again, the only person who’s taken a ride with Chachi in the last 5 years is my wife.

  19. Pamela says:

    At first, I didn’t get this one either. The last time I checked, it’s been about 2,000 years since abstinance ended in a pregnancy, but reading over the comments, it seems like this is more about the programs that teach sex-ed. When I was in school, I sat through the boring, gross sex-ed classes with everyone else. They told us that contraceptives, if used correctly, could be up to 95% effective. Honestly, I didn’t care. They mentioned abstinance in passing, as if no one ever chooses that route anyway (I did), but I was glad they at least informed everyone how to use the available protection. If you look at it objectively, there is no reason to cover abstinance any more than mentioning it as a possibility. If a person is going to choose to wait until marriage, they will do so on their own and need no special instruction to execute that choice. If, however, a person isn’t going to make the choice to wait, they had better know their options (because they are *certainly* not going to phone home and ask Mom or Dad how to use a condom at midnight…). I wasn’t even aware that there *were* abstinance-only sex-ed courses. Those must be some awfully short courses…

    All in all, I have to agree with the sentiment that, like the science classroom, information should not be sensored just because you don’t like the information. If a kid chooses to wait until they are married, good for them. If not, at least they are prepared.

    ~Quag

  20. rhorho says:

    *dusts froo and Jane with evil botanical F.O.R.G.E.T.™ powder*

  21. Abeotch says:

    What a load of crap! Teenagers have been making babies since the dawn of time. Wanna stop it….glue her thighs together and his penis to his thigh.

  22. rhorho says:

    *dusts froo and Jane with evil (but EarthKind) botanical F.O.R.G.E.T. powder*

  23. yasoup says:

    Lay off the Palins, okay? Bristol herself came out and told teenagers that they shouldn’t go abstinence only. That’s a really big sign. So make some funny jokes again. YEEESH. Like about how Michelle Obama hasn’t had any fashion sense since Inauguration Morning!

  24. Anniee451 says:

    Hmmm. Bristol Palin still? Again?

    Well, as a poster I’m not sure this works – the second line is sh*&ty as written; it should be reworded, clipped down, and made a lot wittier. I don’t know if the subject is even funny but since it’s poorly executed maybe it is. Alaska *does* teach sex ed and not just abstinence, but I guess that doesn’t matter much when a Palin is in sight to mock. Bleh.

    • Johnathan says:

      The LOLS break into four categories: Those Republicans hate, those democrats hate, those everybody hates, and stupid little worship pictures (see the eighteen billion ones on that flight in the river).

    • Danbala says:

      Her own recent appearance on Fox News (with a little side note to say that abstinence only might not be all that teens need to hear) kinda makes this lol not too taken out-dated, I think. I linked to an article somewhere else in this thread, I’m just too tipsy to find it atm. ;)

  25. Narri says:

    So, I’ve got a question. This is *LOL* News and Politics. So, I’m an average reader, looking for a chuckle…where do I *LAUGH*?

  26. MissD says:

    Well…I do believe that children whose parents just tell them “Don’t have sex until you’re married” and don’t tell them about proper contraception ARE more likely to get pregnant.

    My parents were always very open with me and I knew how babies were made before I was even in elementary school and when I got my period for the first time they also told me everything about sex and contraception…I had my first sex at the age of 14, I was on birthcontrol and we were using condoms EVERY time…now I am 22 years old and I DON’T have a child wheras some girls I went to school with who had overly religious parents are now 22 years old and have a 6 year-old kid…if you’re properly educated about contraception(with properly I mean it is made sure among other things that you need the condom EVERY time and need to take your pill EVERY day) accidents like that don’t happen…and if you do get pregnant despite all this then you can honestly say(if you weren’t using condoms but took your pill properly) that the pill failed you…and that DOES happen in very rare cases!

    • viking gal says:

      A lot of young ladies somehow don’t get told that certain antibiotics can counteract hormone methods. So they get strep throat and pregnant at the same time. I have a student this happened to. She loves her little girl, but would have preferred to have her after college…

      • Danbala says:

        I’m getting more than just a little sad about the current state of affairs here, where dem dere young’uns are getting all kinds of STDs because they’re only on the pill, and forgetting (or are undereducated about the fact) that they only are good as a protection against one particular STD called pregnancy. :/

  27. tanja says:

    Cromwell said:
    Put your trust in God; but be sure to keep your powder dry

    So you can teach your teenagers abstinence, but also teach them how to use condoms…

  28. Urmom says:

    This is ridiculous, I grew up in the church, I was taught abstinence. That sex is something that should be saved for marriage and i believe that whole heartedly. And i’m certainly not pregnant. It all depends on the kid… You can’t make that assumption about all kids that are taught abstinence.

  29. lolo says:

    lol I love that whenever something like this is posted, it’s always seen as an invite to debate the matter.

  30. Tiberius says:

    This is interesting because I just discovered that in the only county in Illinois that makes it a rule to teach abstinence-only, there’s a high school near my college that has a nursery in it!

  31. Moygo says:

    I totally agree with this caption. If you want your kids to avoid pregnancy, STDs, STVs, etc. then teach them how to avoid them (condoms, The Pill, etc.) not just “DON’T HAVE SEX”. Kids repel…if they think rule number 1 is “No sex” guess what they’ll do????

    Teach your kids about condoms and tell them “I will be very sad and disappointed for you if you have sex now at this age. Not because you had sex but because of what you will be missing out on in your adult life, when you find that special one person to spend the rest of your life with. I’ve given you this information to protect you if you choose to have sex, but I hope for your own peace of mind that you will wait until you are older.”

    • FaileV says:

      I always got the message “If you’re not ready to talk about sex, don’t have it. if you can’t talk to the guy about contraception, you’re not ready. you’ll be ready eventually, but wait till you can talk about it.”

    • tinuviel says:

      The thing is though, Moygo, I’ve have over half a dozen ’special one person’s in my 27 years. If I’d decided that my virginity was going to be something I saved for my husband (as though my body was a gift for him, and that in itself is an uncomfortable concept), then I would have probably rushed into marriage with someone who would turn out to be unsuitable. They all have so far.

      Because I was armed from an early age with knowledge of how to protect myself, I was able to approach sex as an enjoyable activity. It feels better when you’re in love, for sure. But I think it’s easy to mistake desire for love, and if you won’t let yourself explore the desire, you’re likely to make poor decisions in regards to your relationships. ‘I desire this man, so I must love him. I love him so I should marry him. I’m married to him so I have to stay with him. He beats me because he loves me. I will be a better wife and maybe he won’t have to beat me.’ etc etc. That’s one scenario that could have happened had I saved my virginity for my first long-term partner. But as it was, I hadn’t ‘given’ him anything of mine, only shared it with him, and so I could walk away.

      • foxe says:

        Or, you could just wait and not rush into sex or marriage until you’re sure this is the one you want to grow old with. I mean really, people. You’re not animals. Have some self control. You’re making the rest of us advanced mammals look bad.

  32. Steve says:

    Since it hasn’t been said yet…I’d hit it.

  33. Lolnathan says:

    I’d make a baby with her.

  34. jeff says:

    23 year old virgin. proud of it. said no to a gf asking “do you want to have sex right now?”….then she broke up with me. Abstinence = the best way to go

    • death by kewt says:

      Good for you. Seriously. Stay true to yourself and your morals; you’re the only one you have to answer to.

  35. wickedorchid says:

    Plenty of teens with liberal parents get knocked up too. They are just less public about it. Abortions eliminate the evidence.

  36. David says:

    I love me some tig ol bitties

  37. Drew says:

    This, without a doubt, is one of the dubest, lacking in even basic logic captions I have seen on this site.


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