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FIRST !
Running around the house with a pair of scissors is a good morning exercise that both burns calories and helps get those synapses firing.
That, my friend, was full of win.
I have some doubts as to the veracity of this claim, good sir or madam.
It’s true as far as it goes…
He/she did not specify for whom that excercise will be good.
Yeah, on the way to the game it occurred to me that maybe you put these tidbits in to add some much needed content to first posts, rather then for the benefit of the firstbag. If that’s the case then I withdraw my earlier statement.
Your statement was appropriate and funny, so please don’t with-
draw it. I think Jane’s comment was funny, and Mori’s too. There
aren’t any set rules, content was added, and no eyes were lost
IRL, only this guy’s —–>
What Rho said!
“Running around the house with a pair of scissors is a good morning exercise ”
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running with scissors?
*clutches pearls*
Next thing you know, you’ll be telling us you go to a restaurant and fill up on bread.
Funny
How dare they besmirch the name of Ron Paul by listing him with those thugs! Dr. Paul is the only one with any integrity in that picture, racist or not!
I concur!
If, by integrity, you’re referring to the way he dodged responsibility for
racial slurs in his newsletter, then he’s definitely full of it.
Believe that he shared the writers beliefs if you want to. The truth is, what he is guilty of is lending out his name without reading everything that is printed under it before publishing. In my opinion, that is a stupid thing to do because crap like that can happen. But honestly though, the man isn’t a racist.
Ru-Paul is racist?
That truly made me LOL
Ah, the sibling of yesterday’s LIBERALISM lol. :p
…but isn’t it republicans and democrats – liberals and conservatives?
Oh well. I “meh”-ed.
And they’re both by the same person…
Smacking both sides down is often erroneously believed to be “fair and balanced”. And it’s also a tool often employed by the sanctimonious who believe they’ve found that mythical “middle ground” that makes them superior to both sides.
Nevertheless, doing this sort of “let’s piss off everyone” routine does display some balls, err, I mean “metaphorical spheres of courage and fortitude”, deserving of some respect.
Nothing wrong with pissing everyone off… they usually need it to make them THINK!
You’re a hopeless optimist. :p
“metaphorical spheres of courage and fortitude”
LOL
2 internets for you.
i second that motion. well done
Actually, liberals like to poke fun at their own political party, unlike most conservatives. It’s called having a sense of humor. Just watch any episode of the Daily Show for examples of this.
Did you just call liberals a political party?
*facepalm*
No, I implied that liberals belong to a political party, which is true in most cases.
Nice reading fail though.
Is it the fault of the reader if intent is misunderstood, or is the the fault of the author for not being clear?
Even so, your statement is false. Incapability to take a joke is not restricted to being either liberal or conservative. Get off your high horse and join the rest of us filthy peasants.
Hey–Not so fast there. Don’t we filthy peasants get a vote?
We may not want RS down here…
I hearby lift your reading fail, turn it into a writing fail, and
place it on RS.
@RS: “liberals like to poke fun at their own political party”
would have meant your stated intention if you had plural-
ized the word “party.” Do you understand how the way
you wrote it made your intent ambiguous?
Secondly, stating your opinion as fact will usually draw
criticism here. PK’s very own eddiepscetti is quite capable
of taking and making jokes about his conservative
leanings, so good luck pushing your idea, okay?
It’s the fault of the reader if the intent is clear, which it was. Your posts demonstrate you to be either a moron or to be willfully misinterpreting my words. In either case, I’m done with you.
Your intent wasn’t clear; the problem is, everything someone writes is clear to them, because it’s their idea.
You’ve already proven failure to grasp the concept that liberals don’t “belong” to a party, their distributed throughout all of them. Liberalism is a social standpoint, just like conservatism. Could it be possible that you’re also wrong on how clear your message was?
Again, I never said that all liberals belong to the same political party.
My post could have been a bit clearer had I said:
Actually, liberals like to poke fun at their own respective political parties,
but there’s no need to be that precise in the comments section of a LOL site. The main point of my message was plenty obvious.
And the fact remains that I never called liberal(ism) a political party.
alright, so now you corrected your statement, but it’s still false as there’s plenty of conservatives that do the same, just not in the media as much, so the point is moot.
I misinterpreted your original statement, and I’ll gladly state I was wrong now that it’s been clarified. However, I don’t think I will, as I’m not too fond of your attitude.
“but there’s no need to be that precise in the comments section of a LOL site”
Obviously there is.
Fact fail: Intent not clear. See above.
…you fool. Can’t you see that he loves you?…
Actually, it takes two people to communicate, just like it takes two people to have a fight. The writer must make some effort to be clear, but the reader has to meet the writer halfway and make a REASONABLE attempt to not twist the intentions of the writer or read intentionally obtuse things into the text.
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Don’t talk about being on a high horse while wielding all that sanctimonious crap, Jack.
I’m not being hypocritical. I never stated I was better than him – merely that we’re on the same level. I also never stated that it was soley his fault…hell, I even admitted that I was wrong above.
Someone needs to take their own advise.
I’m going to come out on your side here and state that I understood what you meant. In spite of what others are saying, I don’t think it was all that ambiguous. I’m not stating whether I agree or disagree with the sentiment, but I understood it.
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To answer Jack’s:
You should certainly know that it could be both, either or neither. In this case, I would say either.
But but… My middle ground… It’s shiny!!!
T_T
I’ve been having trouble achieving the shiny. Do you wax, pluck, or shave?
*hugs Seth* I was worried about you! Last we’d heard you were posting drunk, I was afraid you met with an unfortunate incident. Also, I recommend hair removal creme, it’s quick and painless.
Hehe. I survived. I’m really not used to drinking. Not my substance of choice, you know? But we have a good friend visiting us, and the guy works in the restaurant biz. Everyone I’ve ever known in the restaurant biz drinks like a fish. Including me back in my line cook days, but that was… way too long ago.
When I worked in a restaurant I think I drank 5-6 nights a week after work. The other day was my day off, and I still drank.
Now I drink once or twice a month.
Are you forgetting to buff after the waxing?
This is TOTALLY unfair.
Some marry money…
Like John Kerry…
This comment caused me to use Al Gore’s internet machine to find the correct way to express my rapture: I LOLLED!
Nothing like totally irrelevant side-tracks and blatant “you guys do it too!” tactics to keep a debate fair and logical.
Look up the “red herring” and “tu quoque” fallacies.
Of course, most internet debaters have an instinctive grasp of “techniques”, even if they don’t know the formal terminology.
LOL–Yes, and some (not you) like to throw terms around, when it’s
clear they don’t understand the meanings.
and the Al Gore stab is pretty much up there with ‘Clinton lied’… it actually shows a notable disregard for facts that confuse the hard of thinking, but are the staple of the Right wing walk mill…
Just like your “facts” suggest an usually smooth forebrain and a willingness to bend the truth to an embarrassing ideology. But keep shouting it from the rooftops, I’m sure Barry’s check will be along any day now…
ah, someone who’s not fact checked the court transcripts… nor who signed into funding to open and develop the old ARPANET
But please, feel free to look more of a fool by trying to prove me wrong
See, here’s the thing about mentioning sources — you have to have actually done the legwork for it to count. Simply acting as though you have, because you’ve read a post by someone who says they have, and so on, doesn’t make it so. (Ever hear the expression “turtles all the way down”? Or “confirmation bias”?)
We both know you haven’t checked squat, and you’re unwilling to do so, even if you were intellectually capable. So by all means, keep trolling on second-rate humor blogs, but know you’re not fooling anyone, troll.
LOL
I think you know you can’t actually win that battle, and are now just pissy…
But please prove that Gore had nothing to do with ARPANET and Clinton did perjure himself… Try… you know you want to…
BTW I was impressed with the comment about the smooth cortex. You have help with that? Or do you fancy neurosurgery as a speciality when they let oyu out of the home?
“We both know you haven’t checked squat”
*pops popcorn, settles in, grinning like a possum*
LOL, but you KNOW the research I did… so you’re cheating…
*offers Unc popcorn in exchange for silence*
(Shh! I don’t want the important people on the
internet to know that I have read your previous
posts on the subject. This is a lowly LOL site,
remember?)
here you two go again stroking each others egos. please get a room we dont wanna watch your gay sex acts in public
Ah the other cretin makes noises that makes no sense…
And you big butch closeted beast, you just know you want to fee the manly stubble as some one just takes you in Tom of Finland, almost by force, ways…
you havent noticed that you and rhorho just sit there tearing other people down over and over again even though you are supposed to be the ones who are tolerant and open minded?
Ah, my little denizen of Narnia… Something
you have to learn…
I’m not a Democrat, I’m not even an
American, I really don’t have to nice to
idiots, and you are an idiot… The sexual
preference insult showed that…
if you arent an american then you really shouldnt be commenting about things that you have no business being involved in. Id guess youre from england or france maybe germany… In any case why dont you go to the doctor and try to get an MRI scheduled. then come back and tell me how long your wait is.
@shin: It’s called “conversation.” You should
try it, past talking to the voices in your head
who tell you to be stupid on the internet.
but they are talking in spanish and I cant understand them. sry
MRI, 48 hours. Thanks for your concern… now the death threats, wanker boy?
How big a knife?
“Tom of Finland,”
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Who or what is Tom of Finland? The guy who makes the organic patchouly toothpaste?
Tom of Finland was a homoerotic fetish artist. The gays (not me) who like his work are typically into really burly men, S&M, military, cops, and all other types of uniforms.
I like other types of gay, not a big ToF fan.
It’s nice to know that I take a 3 month break from PK and come back to see rhoro and Uncle Fester still being awesome. I miss/love you guys.
Welcome back old bean!
and you missed out ‘monstrously endowed’… Shire Horses would feel inadequate…
We carry one box set of Tom of Finland at the bookstore I work at. It is supposed to be wrapped because of graphic content and it spends the majority of it’s book life in the back room waiting to be rewrapped because someone has unwrapped it and shoved it somewhere. The nipples on ToF scare me a bit, you could cut glass with those things.
Oh, and btw *waves* Hi Tego!!!!!
Sometimes, I really am thankful for my ignorance… *shudder*
Shin – Fester is anything but open minded and tolerant. He’s a prick, but he’s usually a well informed, somewhat funny prick.
I’m not really sure where the ‘gay sex acts’ comments fits in since the two people you directed it at are opposite genders…
I tried to perform gay sex acts with Rho once when I was drunk, she put me in a taxi and shipped me off to the middle of nowhere. *pouts*
Sadly, Unc will not get to take any advantage of “Barry’s check” as you put it seeings as how HE’S BRITISH.
Indeed… but Dhoti doesn’t recognise countries outside the US unless they’ve been invaded…
*Looks on military aggression schedule*
Yep–It’s going to be a while for you guys…
Turn the laptop off once in a while.
Are you seriously thinking that your *order* to Jane means
a single, solitary thing?
WTF?
WTF was the point of that?
The point is, you’re an idiot… you can’t disprove what’s been said, and you’re now getting upset that it won’t leave you alone…
you’re a pantywaiste… and a waste of carbon and water…
there you go again ripping other people down while claiming to be in the party of open mindedness and empathy. what a hypocrite.
What party of open mindness, my little catamite?
and when ‘facts’ are the agent of ‘tearing down’ then I’d say you ahve more issues than just being a closet hugger…
like you said in the post above “The point is, you’re an idiot” you cannot make a post without tearing someone down… like calling me a catamite
id say that you are just out to antagonize people with your
large lexicon and/or vast use of google and if I knew where
you lived id make sure to come visit you and cut your throat
Erm, you started with the gay slurs… I simply continue them.
How is your muscle boy porn collection going BTW? Collecting and claiming art is just muscle boy porn…
And physical threats over the internet REALLY add weight to you argument.
Tell me more about how you’d like me dead…
BURN
i started with the gay innuendo because you and rhorho just keep sitting there tearing people down with your incompetent arguments about
republicans and conservatives while your party is even worse. Maybe you should have your mom explain to you what life was like in the 70’s under carter. then you might understand why republicans complain about obama. maybe you should get around to reading the constitution like i told you to in that other thread and youve apparently ignored.
… Every time I see the word “catamite” I see the first 3 letters and think “aww kittens!” Then I see the “amite” and am like “oh.”
…Anyway, tangent finished. You can go back to the insults now…
he he he i do the same thing
I remember Carter… and I know your
constitution… fine document. Shame no one
ever took notice of it…
So, lets have more of those death threats…
they really are amusing… How big a knife
would you need to feel like a REAL man?
Rambo or Crocodile Dundee? Tell you one
thing, sonny, somce ot the BEST people I’ve
met on this planet are gay, and tbh, I’m
sullying their reputation by prodding you
back with your own prejudice… But then,
they’re big enough and secure enough to
know when a jibe is needed and how to
use it…
I have the feeling I’m dealing with someone
who is pretty developmentally subnormal,
with violent and homophobic tendencies…
Does your mother know you’re near the PC?
Not that there’s anything wrong with homosexuality, but am I the only one who is curious how if rho (who is female) and Unc (who is male) formed a sexual partnership it would, in fact, be a straight one, not a gay one? Facts, not assumptions: they benefit everyone.
Thank you Beavis… Proof, if proof were needed, that you’re an idiot child…
oh and AC, you make a great Butthead…
@AC: Every time I see the word “catamite,”
I think “catatonic,” so I’ll keep quiet on the
idea altogether.
@Jane: Awww! You outed us!! I was looking
forward to being able to dress better, too…
*sulks*
That’s because you’re so old you call them Gunsels…
I graduated university with a 4.0 in software engineering and have an above average IQ. But I dont care if you are gay thats not the point. The point I was making was that you two seem to just team up on people you dont agree with instead of asking them why they feel that way. You just rip them down and keep on ripping them till they give up and leave. Apparently you think that means youve won the argument when in reality the other person … like me in this case is just giving up on trying to talk any sense into you.
And if you dont live here and didnt live here under carter then you dont know what it was like. Double digit inflation, double digit unemployment and no gas at any gas station in the country. Being told to turn your thermostat down to 60 degrees in the winter and up to 78 in the summer because that will save energy. We dont live like that here in the states and when we have a president who brings those types of european socialist agendas to the white house we dont stand for it. We elected reagan who cut taxes from 70% to 20% and he created 21 million jobs and got us out of that recession in under 4 years.
Our constitution is the limit of our government and damned near every president (including bush) ignores it when it doesnt suit them. Thats why It pisses me off when people vote for change and then are surprised that things didnt change. You voted for the same party that brought us the gas lines in the 70’s and wonder why it hasnt changed?! And that makes me want to hurt people… sorry for over reacting but I havent had much sleep lately because I got moved to 3rd shift at work and have to stay up all night but then when I get home i cant sleep because the sun is up.
@Rho: Sorry dear, but then you’d just mess the clothes up the next time you went mucking about in your evil botanical lab.
So it’s trouble you’re after?
*takes rubber tips off of quad cane*
*has caregiver lift one of her eyebrows*
“Being told to turn your thermostat down to 60 degrees in the winter and up to 78 in the summer because that will save energy.”
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WTF? This is supposed to prove… what exactly? This is maybe some sort of sacrifice? Maybe an indicator of suffering through tough times? Hell, I don’t even turn the air conditioning ON unless it’s 95 or higher, and that’s when I’ve actually lived in a house with air conditioning.
@Jane: You’re right, and thank you.
Many of my evil cultivars have been bred to
scoff at and otherwise upbraid high fashion.
What a potentially embarrassing situation!
@shin:
We elected reagan who cut taxes from 70% to 20% and he created 21 million jobs and got us out of that recession in under 4 years.
…and you wonder why your ideas aren’t
getting any respect?
A 4.0 in Software Engineering! Wow! 4.0 in a memory test… I’ve been more impressed. They teach you to make death threats in Uni too, you coked up frat boy?
OT again…
@UF: How, may I ask, does associating the letters C, A & T with felines mean that I am like some cartoon character or other?
Pffft, my experience has been, anyone who has to go around bragging about there GPA and IQ has serious issues with being considered inferior. You want to make your case, fine, but what in God’s name does your GPA and IQ have to do with the discussion. Haven’t you ever heard that there’s a fine line between being a genius and an idiot? I bet you can guess which side most people think you’re on, and it doesn’t take an above average IQ to work that one out.
I haven’t seen an IQ braggart on PK yet who
followed up by dazing and amazing all of us
in the riptide of his/her intellect.
Undertow? Yes. Riptide? No.
Just throwing out a thought there…
You’d see a hell of a lot less of it if everyone on here who disagreed with you didn’t immediately get double-teamed with constant “stupidity” accusations, I assure you of that. And worse, I think you know that. I’ve yet to see you folks call someone stupid who actually was.
You must not have been around when MegaBob was, otherwise you would know that’s not true.
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I may have referred to someone as being stupid in the past, but seriously, I question people who start a post by indicating what their GPA and IQ is.
You are correct. There have likely *been* stupid people – this IS the internet. But that tactic of just gangpiling on people and telling them how fecking stupid they are is obviously, obviously going to lead to people mounting a defense against the charge, and the ones I’ve seen are not saying stupid things – case in point the reply to what he said about Reagan and the horrific recession we were in at the time – the gas lines and the runaway inflation and unemployment; waiting 7 hours to fill your tank in 90 degree weather once a week because gas was rationed, and the idiot president telling us to put on sweaters – it was lunacy, and what Reagan did at the time absolutely and predictably ended that recession. I realize Paul Krugman, the political sh*&-stirrer, is busily revising these facts, but that doesn’t excuse anyone who was there for trying to deny the obvious. I hated Reagan at the time (born and bred leftist) but even I enjoyed the enormous prosperity of the 80s after that depression and want, which affected everyone, no matter whether they were rich (as this one is going to.)
What is to be gained by calling someone pointing to this as stupid and silly and foolish, I can’t possibly imagine. It’s just a silencing tactic, and it’s …well, it’s stupid.
why is it idiotic to be told that maybe the thermostat can be turned below 70 degrees in the winter?
You know what? I don’t need another mommy. I have one. And the government makes a poor mommy. If I have the money and wherewithall to keep my thermostat above 70 in the winter, then why shouldn’t I? Just because some kid in China is starving doesn’t mean that me cleaning my plate will help him.
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Having said that, I dont’ have the money to keep my thermostat low in the summer and high in the winter, but that’s my prerogative to do so if I choose. I don’t need government legislation in every single aspect of my life.
A suggestion for energy efficiency isn’t legislation, unless armed police beat won your door, turn down the thermostat, arrest you, and take any children into care… Having said that, you do live in TX, so I’d expect a running gun battle and pipe bombs to figure…
Maybe the majority of Americans wouldn’t need a “mommy” if they would stop acting like spoiled children. The attitude of “I can do what I want as long as I have the money and who cares about anyone else” is exactly why we’re in the mess we’re in. Because I know you, froo, I know that you would be responsible because that’s the kind of person you are. However I’m cynical enough to believe that the vast majority of people, regardless of political leanings, are selfish and want to consume consume consume until it all falls down around their ears, which, it has.
@ Shin0bi, you want facts? Fine, let’s have all the facts. I remember them, apparently you only remember the convenient ones.
Reagan championed a huge tax cut in his first year in office – and the recession DEEPENED.
Every year after that, he INCREASED taxes. Every. Year. Go look it up, I’ll wait.
No matter how the GOOPers try to revise the history, the facts are tehre. 1982, after that tax cut, was the deepest point of the recession, and the years following with their incremental increases were the recovery and boom years.
@shiObi272: You voted for the same party that brought us the gas lines in the 70’s and wonder why it hasnt changed?! To be fair, I didn’t like Carter, but he wasn’t the one that actually brought us the long gas lines, it was an organization called OPEC. And while your busy thinking that one through, consider also that there was an oil embargo in 1973 during Nixon’s administration because the U.S. was supporting Israel.
The recession deepened there for the same reason it’s deepening now. That’s the force of momentum. Carter was a joke.
Again, I’ll reiterate, I didn’t like Carter, but a lot of the problems Carter faced were a direct result of Nixon/Ford spending a truckload of money in Vietnam. Carter was weak and had no backbone, but he also had economic and social issues that were causing a division in the country. I’ll give him credit for trying, but he was doomed to fail and it would have been that way regardless of who was president.
I think he’s implying that because I didn’t make an ass out of myself by assuming everyone on the internet is American that I must post her too much because I know where Unc is from. Aside from the irony of one person on the internet telling another person on the internet that they are spending too much time there, I’d have to point out that there was a debate just yesterday on a lol Dhoti posted on about how Unc feels that America is a 3rd world hell and we were speculating on where, exactly, Unc had visited to form that opinion. Dhoti, I will turn off my laptop when you tighten the straps on your helmet, we wouldn’t want you suffering anymore brain damage than you already have.
Please change her to here, I’m not liking how Firefox hides half the comment box.
I do hard returns to avoid it. Doing so before
you hit the first line to the right will give you
pretty much what you typed, in terms of line
breaks.
If we keep pointing out all of Dhoti’s fails, s/he may
huff up and leave us to return to his/her important
life. Perhaps we should hush, so we can learn from
the vast knowledge stores Dhoti alludes to, but
jealously guards…
*Checks his chair battery, catheter, and oxygen tank…*
Bring it on if ya think ya hard enough!
*waves a bed pan*
Who’s the big braggart now? Hmm?
Why, I’ll show you, you… *nods off, drools*
Who are you?
Like John McCain…
(See what I did there?)
To be fair, McCain was already VERY privileged BEFORE marrying the money. And he only married that money after leaving his first wife because she was in a car accident and no longer looked like the model she once had (and cheating on her constantly).
Your points are valid, but I was pointing out that “tit-for-tat” is a
pointless exercise.
Geez! It looks like I get points for every use of a form of
“point” I can muster…
*reads above; dies*
TBH, I wasn’t doing a tit for tat. I was simply pointing out that we can’t use one side of the other as the sole example of ‘marrying for money’.
It looked like you were ready to go for such an
exchange, but I’ll take your word that you weren’t.
(Still, I would have barbecued you soooo badly…)
Oh…I thought Rho and Froo were going to mix it up..
*pouts*
*puts popcorn away*
I prefer “tit for tit.” More tits all around!
BOOBIES!
….and John McCain
this was supposed to go under froo’s comment about John Kerry marrying money but instead it’s waaaaaay down here…sigh
It bounced back into place. PK likes to do that sometimes.
Like the Kennedys… or the Cuomos… Give me a few minutes & I will think of more. It’s the whole career political class. Corrupt bastards every Demoplican or Republicrat one of them.
The only real difference between the elite Republican class and the elite Democrat class is that the Republicans rail and scream about fiscal responsibility while spending money like drunken sailors, and the Democrats rail and scream about the ‘rich bastards who don’t pay enough in taxes’ while sheltering their own wealth in offshore accounts. Same animal, different name.
Indeed… and when you get that, you realise that you’re just voting for the lies you like best…
Assuming everything you said to be absolutely true, wouldn’t you rather
vote for the greater good, or the least harm?
In your scenario, the amount of money sheltered by the Democrats would
be far less than the amount spent on a month’s worth of war. Using your
profile, we would be in a LOT better shape in terms of scale.
You didn’t imply that elite GOP members squander their *personal* assets
in the same fashion that they squander the *country’s* assets, but you did
imply that elite GOP members *don’t* shelter their personal funds. That
implication is naive, don’t you think?
actually I’d rather vote for the one who will obey the constitution… too bad noone like that runs anymore.
Ah well, it’s Sunday… you can go find some rough trade to beat you up and make you his… You’ll feel better then….
again you cant comment on someone’s post without tearing them down. sounds like your the one whos trapped in the closet to me.
You’re the one who brought up gay sex, not me…
You’re the one whining about what a big nasty people we are…
you’re the one who’s behaved like a macho, silly little boy, and then tried to make up for it by whining…
lollercaust!
UF rocks my cock – well – not really cause he ain’t gay but.. you know…
you keep making that comment, I’m curious as to what you consider “obeying the constitution” I was under the impression the founding father’s never established whether it was a foundation, or the limit, but if you have sources on that i’d be happy to hear
It has to be a foundation or there would be no such thing as amendments.
not necessarily, it could be the limit of powers and the amendments were the means in which the government could keep the constitution up to date in order to still be able to function.
I’m of the belief it is a foundation, one does not remove the rights given, but acts upon them.
There is a view it’s just a contract that bound the people who signed it…
It could be established as that, then, since all the signatories are dead, it’s less rules and more ‘guidelines’
Like the Pirate code?
The problem with the elite Democrats is that they do their best to try to make you feel bad for your brother down the road not having as much as you, while sitting in their own counting houses counting out their money. And of course rich REpublicans shelter their money. Any rich person worth their salt keeps their actual money where it can’t be touched if they want to keep it. Even the mayor of New York understands that.
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So I’m with Fester on this one. They’re both two sides of the same coin, and all we do is hire the better liar for the job.
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A good candidate hasn’t run in more years than I’ve been a live, save one. So there is no point in me trying to say which one will minimize damage to the country, because they both do their own damage in their own scary ways.
Last good one was probably Washington… it went down hill after that.
I stand firm in my belief that, while US politicians do have a bipartisan understanding of “corruption” and “incompetence”, the Republicans do so to such a greater degree that they’re in another class altogether.
But loathe as I am to agree with someone as conservative as Tom Clancy, he hit it on the head when he described Washington DC as being the center of a “political upper-class” who’s existence would have disappointed the Founding Fathers (who believed that all rich White men deserved a shot at power, not just those born or married into the “correct” dynasties.) And this elitism (in a bad way) clearly crosses party lines (Kennedys on one side, Bushes on the other.)
Here in Illinois (ugh), beloved ex-Gov G-Rod ran his re-election campaign on incompetence: increased turnout would only benefit his opponent, so his strategy was to convince voters to give up and stay home. Apparently it works at the national level as well — once you accept an entirely unacceptable level of corruption as normal, the usual partisan bullshit only serves to give one side an entirely free pass and the other side only a mostly free pass.
If you can’t be bothered to speak out against corruption even when it occurs on your side of the aisle, then you deserve every bit of the political upper class you enabled into office. Next election, stay home and let the grown-ups vote.
Hey, you’re not finished on the The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 nor the Clinton Perjury… a staggering level of ignoarnce from someone who then presumes to tell people they’re less ‘grown-up’ than him… You’re a neotenous lunatic
I’m done, but apparently you’re not. Go ahead and get it all out of your system.
Erm, no, you simply know that you’re wrong and can’t admit it…
I’m sure that Shinobi will pay you to beat and bugger him, which will make you both feel better…
I seem to remember something about “sexual preference as a fallback insult” — or does that only apply to people you don’t agree with?
erm, no… I was insulting Shinobi who did bring up sexual preference, I was just using you to do it… Now… our outstanding issue
The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991… who introduced it…
actually Dhoti said al bore says that he took steps in creating the internet. you said that he funded arpanet… which he didnt.
No I said he funded the conversion of Arpanet to the internet in the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991.
Where does Dhoti admit that?
he uses insults on people who he doesnt agree with because thats apparently all he understands… insult those who he cant beat with facts.
Nope. Those of us who have been around understand
what he’s doing, and you don’t. Wanna try again?
No, I understand quite a bit… I just tone it down for the audience
That was my comment.
I mentioned a little further down the thread that UF had left
“sexual preference” off the list of insults that people seem to
throw out with regularity as a way of dismissing someone’s
comments.
and you can now add ‘death threats’, since that one came AFTER the sexual preference slur…
Jebus, you brought this up all morning, but the first reference I saw to Clinton in this thread was you saying, “Clinton lied” as if that was untrue. Trouble is, you said “lied” not “perjured himself”. So not only is your harping on the issue a straw man argument (unless it’s a reference to some other thread I haven’t seen), but you need to avoid the broader “lied” allegation (since it is arguable that “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” was a lie, as in something he knew to not be true in the broader sense, even if it was not perjury).
I’m all for setting records straight (like the Gore business), but semantics works both ways. I know you’re going for a broader argument there, but the way you started with “lied” and moved on to “perjury” bugged me, since you baited with a broader term than what you eventually used as evidence.
I was sound biting for a Right Winger… Clinton most certainly ‘lied’ but the impeachment was for Perjury, which he didn’t do… so to claim that he was arraigned for lying is a lie, and to say he perjured himself was a lie…
With in a legal environment, the truth or otherwise, in a broader sense is moot.
He did not lie in court since he was asked
“Have you ever had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, as that term is defined in Deposition Exhibit 1, as modified by the Court?”
and, within the terms of Deposition Exhibit 1, the honest answer was ‘No’.
It was a piss poor definition, that appeared to be written by a naive clerk…
However, Clinton did lie on January 26, 1998, but to the press corps, and lying to the press is to be expected…
Happy?
lol yeah i totally agree. i never got that about them. why should rich people believe that things like welfare are useless?
I think the people who make <$40k but work their asses off have more reason to hate welfare than “rich people”.
They’re just bitter they can’t afford to offshore… I do notice that, when the hammer falls on the <40k-er, they swoop on that which they despise like the Assyrian wolf on to the fold…
Would you like a broader brush?
No, I’m happy with this one…
Tell me you’d not offshore if you had a bit more money…
I agree Nicole.
Back before I finished my education and landed a real career, I made around 20k working fast food to pay for school. I was working my ass off and I hated welfare more then than I do now. I make a pretty decent wage now, and I don’t mind giving some to those less fortunate.
I still hate the way welfare is distributed, as I know at least one person personally who collects that certainly don’t deserve it. He lives at home and lets his addict girlfriend spend all of his welfare money on heroin, meanwhile being too fscking lazy to get a job.
Must be written by a Canadian monarchist. *shakes fist*
Ron Paul: Grew up on dairy farm. Worked his way through college. Not “privileged from birth”.
Mike Huckabee: Father fireman and mechanic. Mother clerk. Not “privileged from birth”.
Rudy Giuliani: Working class parents. Father criminal. Not “privileged from birth”.
Mitt Romney: Father governor and presidential candidate. Degree from Harvard. … Fine. I’ll concede this one.
Fred Thompson: Father car salesman. First member of family to go to university. Not “privileged from birth”.
(Sources: Google/Wikipedia.)
Nooooo! You contradicted the narrative! Clearly Google and Wikipedia are in on it too!
ARPANET – Not Gore? Prove
Clinton Purjury – Prove?
Come one asshole, you can do it…
Gimme a D
Gimme an I-CK
Gimme an H
Gimme an E-A-D
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Dick head
Dick head
Dick head
Goooooooo DICKHEAD!!!
Wow. And to think, you’re wasting that keen intellect on a humor blog rather than a political one…
No, I’m just irritating you… answer the questions…
ARPANET – Not Gore?
Purjury Clinton?
You seem to have special knowledge, so please share it, oh great and wise one…
Irritating? Hardly. You’re actually funny, in that funny-sad sort of way, like the kid in the crash helmet…
Why bother? Clearly, you’ve already been told what your opinion is, and like a good automaton, you’re not going to waver from it. So go ahead, pretend I can’t convince you, pretend I’m scared of your intellect, whatever gets you through the day…and stay classy…
Ah, the voice of the Zombie… still whining I’m a nasty man…
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You can easily prove I’m wrong, or think you can… So, just do it… go on… you can… you know it’s lies… so easy to prove… go on….
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Although having said that, you’ve clearly no idea of the content of the Clinton court transcript (it’s in the public domain) nor the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 and who signed off its funding…
But facts are such pesky things, I’m pleased that your sort of idiot really feels they’re so much beneath him… it proves my point so easily about the inhernet dishonesty of people like you… the loud retard whose only thoughts come from what he is told by Rush and Anne… but please insult me more… there’s my mother, and the rest of my family to go at, followed by education, pets, personal hygiene… and all of it will simply prove you REALLY have no legf to stand on…
I think you left out “sexual preference” as another fall back insult.
You misunderstand.
The facts aren’t beneath me — far from it.
*YOU* are beneath me.
Got it?
ROFL… g’wan, prove me wrong… the wounded pride crap really proves nothing but your general ignorance…
High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 – prove it wasn’t Gore’s… that’s probably the easiest…
As to the perjury… I’ll give you a clue. It was the definition of ‘Sexual Intercourse’ imposed by the court, and the couching of the answer that avoided perjury… that one is trickier, since it involves more than third grade reading skills.. and that’s clearly out of your league…
I’m still waiting for you to prove what you said, instead of mounting a high horse and stating that backing up your statements is “beneath” you. Come on, put up or shut up.
Hey rhorho, pass the popcorn. I’ll share my gummi bears. This is getting good.
I really don’t understand how this is too subtle for you people. Why waste time convincing people who refuse to be convinced?
Wuss… you’re just afraid you’re wrong… go on… prove that you’re an idiot some more… You opened the can of worms… Hell, I’ve even told you where to look, to see what you have to rebut.. the more you prevaricate, the more you prove my point you’re a cretin, a liar and a hypocrite…
As soon as that matters to me, I’ll get right on it.
*watches as Dhoti’s cred vaporizes into a
teeny-tiny pufflet of puppy fart*
Trans: “I’m wrong, I know I’m wrong and
I’ve painted myself in to a corner that
nothing will fix, but I’d rather die than admit
I’m wrong so I’ll feign indifference to make
it look like I know something when really
all I know is that I’m an idiot who should
have kept my mouth shut… oh god, why
can’t they just forget it and move on now?”
@Unc: (continuing as Dhoti)
“…and why do I smell like a puppy fart?”
“I don’t understand why I can just make baseless claims and refuse to verify them when asked. Why waste time with facts and truth when we can debate propaganda?”
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I’m sorry, this is what I thought you said.
My read was a little different…
*cue track of teething baby*
If you really think what you’re defending is truth, not propaganda, then you’re truly a lost cause. Again — why bother explaining to the close-minded who will dismiss it out of hand anyway? You’re making your slavish devotion quite clear.
Buh-bye.
Actually, no, the The High Performance
Computing and Communication Act of 1991
and the Clinton testimony (and court
transcript, with definitions) are all public
domain…
Unless you’re now claiming that the Senate
record and the Courts are some ‘organ of
propaganda’, which at least gives you a
certain cachet of ‘Paranoind Loon’ cred,
you’re just digging a hole in with the
claims you’re making…
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Pray continue for our schadenfreude ridden
amusement that you’re such a poncing little
freak…
If you really think what you’re defending is truth, not propaganda, by insisting that I provide facts to back up claims I have made then you’re truly a lost cause. Again — why bother explaining to the close-minded who, because of their love of knowledge and insistence on unbiased evidence to support my claims, will dismiss it out of hand anyway? You’re making your slavish devotion to logic, reason, and facts quite clear.
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I’m sorry, this is what I heard again. Weird. I must have a bad connection or something.
@Jane: I must have a bad connection, too,
because all I heard was, “I’ve painted my-
self into a corner, so I’m going to act like
UF is beneath my dignity. I was obviously
talking out of school, and I have to cover
my tracks now.”
That’s it, he’s taking his ball and going home.
Yeah guys, why are you wasting time trying to convince Dhoti when he’s clearly refusing to be convinced?
*waves*
Hi, I’m new-ish. Long-time lurker, third-time poster. Many of you will like me.
*offers a fresh batch of buttery popcorn to Ivan*
*noms a gummy bear* Mmmm…greeeen!
I want some! This is all quite entertaining..
*shares popcorn and gummy bears with Eds*
The fight has simmered down to one repeat-
ing, and one running away, but anything’s
more fun with snacks!
Am I the only one who thinks Uncle Fester went totally off topic from what the original poster was trying to prove? CS wanted to show that most the people in the picture were not born into privilege, but Unc brought up the ARPANET again…non sequitor at best.
Erm, no if you actually read the thread, then there was an Al gore aside, which was noted and from there we’ve had cretins claiming they know that Gore didn’t introduce the The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991… It was an aside that others made into an issue, then backed off from…
feel free to re-make the point but it was well made and I have no problems with him making the point… Infact the Kennedys could by the lot and still have change… so could the Bushes… it’s really a bad picture to use…
*-buy…the Kennedys could BUY the lot in that picture and still be rich…
and if you’re going to use Latin… non sequitur – U not O…
You spend too much time on this site dude. Go outside a get a life.
FAIL!
The creator of this lol should have used a picture of George Bush.
I’ll admit, some republicans weren’t privileged from birth. Some achieved their privilege just by being the meanest, most immoral, and most repulsive dickhead on the block.
It’s so unfair…you deserve their money just as much as they do!
This from the man who thinks Al Gore didn’t sign The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991…
I’m sure that adds weight to you opinion there Dhoti…
I see you’ve progressed to the “shouting on every thread” stage of the discussion. Do you think that’s really the best way to get your point across? Whatever it may be?
No, I still want you to tell me who introduced the The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 that paved the way for ARPANET tto form a major part of the internet… You seem to think it wasn’t Gore and I’d like you to show why you think that it’s just propaganda… After all, a fundemental error of the kind you’re committing here really does colour every other opinion you write…
When you’ve sorted the The High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991, then we can move on to the Clinton Perjury one…
dei.isep.ipp.pt/~acc/docs/arpa–1.html
Too stupid to manage a working link?
Oh dear…
You can always threaten me with a knife again… that may help your self esteem…
strange… apparently you cant put in h t t p : / / in a post on here … must be why I removed it from the link… maybe you could oh I dont know spend the 2 seconds and copy and paste it? ohhh no that would be too hard to do… would take away from your time calling people names wouldnt it? i sowwy mr lazy man next time i’ll make the linky worky just for you kk? LOL
oh and btw its a katana
OOOh a KATANA! How BUTCH! Get it mail order didja? Pose like a Ninja infront of the mirror do ya, or are you a Samurai fetishist?
Silly little boy…
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and no, sticking http and the rest DIDN’T help… handy hint Chromosome boy, where it says ‘LINK’ when you’re writing your diatribes to assault the English language, you can put a link in there…
So, care to try again you moron?
Hmm, coming in with a gay slur, name, and referencing katana as weapon of choice. you’re looking less like a logical human being and more like a naruto fanboy.
A bad one if you’re picking a katana as a weapon.
As if the screen name wasn’t a dead giveaway?
If UF is beneath you, why keep engaging him?
And by being Lying liars… For your edification I give you Dhoti…
All of which makes their disdain for the working class that much more incomprehensible.
Actually, no… I tend to despise the people I was forced to be schooled with… but I find ‘Friends Reunited’ to be a source of schadenfreude that means I really don’t have to hate them all…
For anyone: Name a *current* liberal Republican.
Failing that, who is the *most* liberal Republican?
Liberal? Really and truly lefty? None in recent memory…okay, none in any memory of mine. Most liberal? Apparently Specter, Snowe, or the other woman in Maine whose name escapes me. They have to be or they’d get themselves kicked out in the next election.
Thank you! Do you mean Susan Collins?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the people you noted would be called
moderates, none of them venturing to the left of center.
Id say McCain is pretty liberal since he is the one whos always crossing the aisle to work with democrats. we dont see a lot of democrats crossing the aisle to work with republicans unless they are up for election which is why it pisses us off when people like McCain do it.
But that’s the opinion of some one who is only really capable of impotent threats and sexuality slurs, so I’d say it carried little weight…
Don’t worry, I’m sure momma will still love you if you bring home a boy friends…
and look who continues to run his mouth ripping on people who he has no clue about. gee what a surprise its fester! Why dont you take your mouth off of that crack pipe and go back to school?
You really are a sad, sorry, little man… do you reguarly threaten knife violence against strangers you disagree with? Makes you feel more ‘manly’ some how?
I’m sure your mother is proud of you… has she told you where she and your father (if she knows his name) moved to in 2004 yet?
Senator Orrin Hatch has worked across the aisle many a time with Ted Kennedy, and I don’t think ANYone would consider Hatch a liberal. Working across the aisle is simply the only way to actually get things done in congress.
McCain doesn’t come close to qualifying as liberal in my books, except possibly in immigration law.
Good point. McCain *does* have his toe over the center line on
that one issue.
Thank you!
we dont see a lot of democrats crossing the aisle to work with republicans unless they are up for election
Okay. I’m going to type this slowly so you can read it:
Every time a Republican and a Democrat work together, they are
both “reaching across the aisle.” To say that one side does and the
other doesn’t is wrong, because it takes two to cross the aisle.
See how that works?
Capitulation isn’t cooperation. It’s making sure you can get elected next time around. While there is some actual crossing of the aisle on the REpublican side, most of it also involves agreeing with whatever is put forth instead of trying to make it a little more conservo-friendly. They’re just agreeing with whatever has been put in front of them, thereby making them more liberal than conservative in their leanings.
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I’d be interested if there are any Democrats who regularly ‘cross the aisle’ in the same way McCain has.
Very well said, IMO
Unless you have something besides your opinion on who does
the capitulating, I could copy/paste your entire post, switch
the party names, and not make any sense, too.
If you run across any statistics, they would be worth a look.
OK, a quick google search on ‘bipartisan bill’ came up with a crime prevention bill, a cloning bill, an energy bill, a bill on voting technology, a bill on gun ownership, and one on child health insurance. (I skipped the one blog hit) And that was just the first page of 395,000 hits. Like I said, bipartisanship is the only way to get things done in congress. Period. Those who don’t work well with their peers, are just posturing for C-Span, and wasting their consitutants time and money.
I submit that “working across the aisle” is not an asset when you’re working with people whose interests are counter to your own good. At the risk of invoking DWN’s Wang, I can just see 1930’s Germany as an Jeffersonian Democracy, and the jews trying to work across the aisle with hard line nazis. “Okay, we’re agreed that the cattle cars must go, and will be replaced with passenger cars…”
Okay, but, using your format, let’s suppose that the Jews
and the “Wangables” could agree on issues of sewage,
electricity, telephone lines, education and other similar
issues. It would behoove them to work together, to
accomplish as much as they could, despite their other
differences. Otherwise, as Viking Gal said, they would be
wasting their constituents’ time and money.
“Oy Vey, while I’m being experimented on by your evil doctors, I will be so happy to know the Aryans will have free health care. While my children work to death in a camp, I revel to know yours will have new schools. While my wife starves, I am reduced to tears of joy that yours will be able to flush her former food into the new sewer systems…”
Seriously though, I know your heart is in the right place, Rho. I just think that, ever since Carter was elected, the Republican party leaders have completely lost interest in doing anything constructive for our nation. We’re talking about a political party who’s core beliefs are that government is inherently evil, inefficient, and ineffective, and therfore have no reason to aspire to make it anything better. As Jonnie Alter (sp?) used to say on Al Franken’s show, “Republicans believe that government doesn’t work, and when elected, endeavor to prove it.”
Okay, okay. I’m not going to argue with your
masterful combination of comedy and reasoning.
I capitulate. *defeated sigh*
Well, given that by world standards, our liberals and conservatives are as different as the letters M and N, I don’t think bipartisanship is quite as much of a stretch as your example would be.
I agree with you. I think that a compromise rarely results in anything useful.
I think it’s like the horse designed by committee, which if you understand the reference you can argue that a camel is useful, but it’s not useful for what the design team intended.
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To me, bi-partisan should mean getting input and feedback from all sides, but the side in charge of the particular item, still needs to be the one to make the call. If you’ve ever worked on a well-run design team, you’ll understand.
Okay, but, let’s say that the sides are evenly split. Do
you recommend that *nothing* get done, or do you
agree that *everything possible* should get done?
If bipartisan agreement can be reached through
compromise, the product may not be perfect, but it
is still better than nothing. Let’s say the bipartisan
bill could be rated an “8,” but it can pass this year.
A better, “10″ bill is preferable, but it has to wait for
20 years or more to be passed. Which is better?
At this point, there is a clear majority, but, as you
know, such is not always the case, and may not be
the case for long.
I’m saying neither ‘nothing’ nor ‘everything possible’. I’m saying that there has to be someone in charge. Whether that’s one person or a ‘party’ or whatever. Whoever is sponsoring the ‘bill’ let’s say.
That ‘person’ in charge needs to collect all of the data and all of the recommendations and needs to honestly weigh them to be the person who makes the final decision. That decision needs to then stand on it’s own to be voted on. Basically, it’s the old ‘the buck stops here’ scenario. If you are the one to make the final decision, it is to your credit if it passes and works, and your fault if it passes and doesn’t work.
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I’ve seen many many design teams who never empower a single decision maker and they are the one’s who never accomplish anything.
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Today you are running the ‘design team’ ie, it’s your bill. Tomorrow, I am for my bill. In that kind of scenario, it makes much more sense to cooperate with each other.
Except that most of the big bills that do get through have co-sponsors. Usually a R and a D.
I agree with you in general on group work–hate meetings with a passion. Waste of time, mostly. But if you are going to craft something that needs to be voted on and passed, you do need more than one person in the crafting.
That’s why I said person or party.
Whatever comprises the decision maker is who ultimately gets credit or blame because they have to be the ones who who have weighed all the data and decides what is in the final package.
You’d like my meetings. No BS. If it’s a standing meeting, if there’s nothing to discuss – end of meeting. Meetings where they try to ‘fill the hour’ are worthless and anyone who runs them like that should be demoted or fired.
I’ve been called to meetings with no other purpose than to set up another meeting. WTF is that?
A meeting-planning meeting? Sounds a little ridiculous, honestly.
I can go for that.
“For anyone: Name a *current* liberal Republican.
Failing that, who is the *most* liberal Republican?”
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*puzzles*
Um…
Joe Lieberman?
Joe is an Independent
LOL!! Mr. Joe “I’m so confused I don’t know which bathroom to use”
Lieberman, FTW!!
It’s a bit trite (I mean, that’s standard fare for feminist/womanist sites that analyze everything according to privilege and oppression) but not too bad. I just wish Fred Thompson weren’t in this particular picture because I do love that man. Except for Giuliani (and that was a distant second) Fred was the only candidate in the race worth a p*sshole in the snow this time around. Sigh. Just about broke my heart when he was gone. Linkie
I’m gonna make an Obama one about the Cloward-Piven strategy – I knew it had to have a name. Alinski did his job well, and looks like Obama was the man to realize it (at least Hillary gets to be in on that realization too; I’d kind of feel sorry for her if she didn’t.)
“I just wish Fred Thompson weren’t in this particular picture because I do love that man. Except for Giuliani (and that was a distant second) Fred was the only candidate in the race worth a p*sshole in the snow this time around. Sigh. Just about broke my heart when he was gone.”
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Homer Simpson: OK, that’s it! Out!! All of you politicians, get out of my house!! That means you too, Fred Thompson! I see you hiding behind that plant! Out!
Fred Thompson [sadly, emerging from behind plant]: But I was in Die Hard.
Homer [scornfully]: Die Hard TWO!
LOL – I didn’t see that – I watched the show since the time it was a short on the Tracy Ullman show, and watched over the next few years…not sure how many times a show can jump the shark but they keep doing it and surviving lol. But they still stuck funny stuff in there, I see.
Mmmm Floor Pie!
The Kennedys are republicans now ?
I like this post… it’s truthful… Dynastic, privileged and corrupt… The only good Kennedy died in WW2… and even then, I’d not really rate his chances of being anything but dynastic, privileged and corrupt…
How about the Kennedy females? They haven’t gotten all of the bad press that the menfolk seem to keep acquiring.
Has any Kennedy female held elected office?
Katherine Kennedy Townsend. (link). There may be others, but the only one I know about.
D’OH!! Thank you, VG!
I like Teddy Kennedy. Does he line his pockets at the expense of the taxpayers? Probably. Still, he makes sure he’s doing good things for the working class while he feathers his nest, a big improvement over the governance we’ve seen for the last eight years.
Well, Massachusetts doesn’t keep re-electing him for his looks…
I’ve linked a very recent Boston Globe retrospective on his life and career. Apparently losing all 3 high-achieving older brothers had a major impact–suddenly he was the only adult male left in a family with all of those children, plus his brothers’ legacies to try and preserve.
They like them blotchy, bloaty and raddled in Mass.
On Tip O’Neill, bloated actually kind of looked good–balanced out his nose. On Teddy Kennedy…ick!
I note you omit his Environmental record…
Yeah well, I LIKE wind power!
He’s fine with it, as long as it’s not on his horizon…
Exactly. Which ticks me off. I’ve seen the windmills in Europe. If they are set far enough off land to prevent strobing when it is wet and sunny, and they are pretty. And if you can’t steer your boat around them, you shouldn’t be captaining!
But then I can’t afford the real estate that he has…
We are no longer accepting applications for the American dream…
Ain’t that the truth.
They sold it piecemeal to India and China, truth be told… Combination of your Industry and Government…
We’re selling ours to the Former Soviet Union as I type… although based on the economic hell that the Americas will be entering, I expect to see US call centres of EU operations soon…
BRAVO BRAVO!!! THAT WAZ FREAKIN AMAZING!! BURN BURN HERE BURN BURN THERE!!!
Caps lock… you muppet…
I think that was intentional. You kinda proved his point of people burning each other here as well…
Well, I’m pleased you seem to speak ‘Muppet’ like a native… who died and made you Jesuit in ordinary to the mentally deficient?
ALL YOUR RON PAULS ARE BELONG TO US
I think Democrats need a new slur against Republicans, this one applies to them as much if not more.
Amen… It does… but since it was the same person who posted the Liberalism one yesterday, I think it’s a bipartisan slurring…
By the way, I love your Dilbert, Fester….you can take that anyway you like. *Blushes*
I’ll take flattery from anyone!
Frou dug it up and it was massaged to me on my profile, so props go to Froufrou on that one!
*bows*
@ Shin0bi – I can’t get a comment to nest up there, but damn; I’m feeling ya’ over here. Good luck.
You’re lucky he’s not offering to let you feel one his knife collection…
I really hope he doesn’t threaten people like that often, otherwise he’ll be wearing it up his ass…
Maybe it’s his use of “gay” as an insult that she supports.
Hm, I don’t know if this is necessarily true of just Republicans, but more like many rich Americans/elitists. I’m sure tons of the liberal politicians feel this way too, it’s just not the public stance they take (in order to get the support of the middle/working classes).
Though, unfortunately, I do hear this kind of stuff spouted off by some loud Republicans… hence the reason why the party has that reputation.
I’m guessing communism/fascism due is next up?
I was going to do one on apathetic non-voters, but I just….can’t…..seem….to care enough.
your all gay and I think you loose too. *there, that oughta do it*
Just because we’re all gay doesn’t mean we’re loose!
Lern 2 spel, loozur!
Gay men are probably loose but the lesbians…I doubt it.
thank you for actually understanding sarcasm when you read it!
lol… and sobeginz teh LOLWARZ!!!
Corrected: The belief that it’s not worth punishing those who achieve success on their own just to punish those privileged from birth.
Or shorter: The belief that some people achieve success on their own.
Hehe – yes, that is certainly more accurate. Nice
Spelling errors, which have been occurring frequently of late, really detract from the lols. I wish the captioning software got a bit more in your face about that.
For some reason I don’t see a spelling error in the lol. Normally I spot them easily, too – where is it?
Privileged is misspelled as “priveleged”.
I’ve lost count, but I believe it’s somewhere around
Sweden: 253
U.S.A.: 6
Is that about right?
Hah. ;p
Leave their spelling alone you filthy Viking!
But … But … Spelling is the only thing I can show off with! Don’t take it away from me!
(And I might be mainly Nordic, but no viking. :/)
Pish-Tush! Anyone who can take the unremitting dark and cold
of Jutland is a Viking…
Pfft. Those wussy weaklings kept going south on cruises to softer climes all the time. Friggin’ charter tourists. I bet they were mostly singing “Torremolinos” and wearing garish floral patterns.
Ah! Thank you! I missed it because I was too busy looking for the ubiquitous “d” that appears before the G in privileged hehe.
Nice one, you got me there!
Ah yeah, like the “privilidged” that appears in another post here.
To be fair, it’s an easy cop for a Swede – it’s “privilegium” in Swedish, and we pronounce it in a way that makes it quite, quite clear which vowel goes where.
(Or “privilegierad” for the adjective.)
Aaaand … A google for “privelegium” on Swedish pages gives me 61,800 hits. How the hell they manage to make that mistake is beyond me. I’ll chalk it down to dialect. Or stupidity. Or both.
I understand that most believe Republicans to be wealthy individuals, but if you will research at least one of the men in the pic (Mike Huckabee) you will see that he grew up dirt poor. He still isnt all that wealthy. Hell, the governors mansion in Arkansas is the nicest house he ever lived in and when it was being remodled he and his wife lived in a trailer to save the tacpayers of Arkansas money….Tell me ONE Democrat that would do the same…NONE
Deal old Mike… the guy who covered up the fact his boy tortured a dog to death at summer camp…
Annnd more example of emotional leftism. ATTENTIONA ALL: WELCOME TO CLASS WARFARE IN ALL OF ITS PETINESS!
Why don’t you ask Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice how their lives began? Oh, a better one, why don’t you ask Joe Biden or Ted Kennedy how their wealth was acquired?
Republicanism equals thus: each person is BORN equal. The way they lead their lives results in unequal outcome.
I think you’ll find this has not only been covered above, but beaten to death, and its entrails pulled out and paraded around while people chant ‘Kill the pig!’
I’m actually going to pretend to be fair-minded here [oh, stop with the sarcastic gasps of disbelief].
As with the “liberals” lol, the picture here does nothing to illustrate the caption. If the point of the lol is that Republicans are a bunch of arrogant asshats with an absolutely grotesque sense of entitlement, it should imho accompany a picture of one or more Republicans with a smug, self-satisfied expression/body language. The gentlemen pictured here just look sort of bland and generic. What’s the matter, couldn’t the captioner find a picture of b*sh smirking?
I think it’s fair to say the captioner of both pictures only has the vaguest notion of American politics at best, and the intelligence of a chimp banging on a keyboard at worst.
BTW, are you ever going to return that call to the infinite number of
monkeys about the script of Hamlet they’d worked up?
No, I told them the first time that Hamlet is way overdone. If they rework Julius Caesar I might think about it, I just love that ‘let loose the dogs of war’ line.
Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter’d with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar’s spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch’s voice
Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
Man, that Mark A. gets no credit.
Hrm, that would have more impact if ‘privileged’ was spelled correctly…
Idiot. Huckabee came from a poor AR family.
A poor, dog torturing, family…
Well… Unless I’m getting it all mixed up, he didn’t come from a dog torturing/killing family, he just created one?
Democratism: pimping poor minorities for 50 years.
Very true…
The “50 years” is the tip-off here. JD was going for Democratic (Party)-ism,
so it’s not true, considering his word choice.
I stand corrected… Man’s an eejit!
You are anti-democracy? (Hint: Dictionary is our friend.)
Yeah, I know I always do this, but here’s a link to a perfect example of how to deal with Intelligent Design nuts who think what they believe is science. The Institute of Creation Science asked a professor at a small college to sponsor a debate, and his response is just spot on.
A short bit of it:
“Instead of spending time on public debates, why aren’t members of your institute publishing their ideas in prominent peer-reviewed journals such as Science, Nature, or the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences? If you want to be taken seriously by scientists and scholars, this is where you need to publish. Academic publishing is an intellectual free market, where ideas that have credible empirical support are carefully and thoroughly explored. Nothing could possibly be more exciting and electrifying to biology than scientific disproof of evolutionary theory or scientific proof of the existence of a god. That would be Nobel Prize winning work, and it would be eagerly published by any of the prominent mainstream journals.”
The answer I’ve seen in response to that Mark, is that their work has been submitted to these publications and have rejected due to the Scientific Community Conspiracy against god and religions.
They generally can’t show proof of submission, or if they can, it’s easily understood why their work was rejected.
They also claim that their work is peer reviewed by their own people. The credentials of those people of course is suspect at best. More commonly, their credentials are non-existent.
The kind professor’s response to the conspiracy complaint is very good:
“”Conspiracy” is the predictable response by Ben Stein and the frustrated creationists. But conspiracy theories are a joke, because science places a high premium on intellectual honesty and on new empirical studies that overturn previously established principles. Creationism doesn’t live up to these standards, so its proponents are relegated to the sidelines, publishing in books, blogs, websites, and obscure journals that don’t maintain scientific standards.”
I’m no Creation ‘Scientist’ but the scientific establishment is pretty Byzantine, conservative, and as transparent as Government accounting…
Just saying that the good professor, if he fully believes what he’s said, is naive in the extreme.
Some of us remeber the ‘welcome’ that H. Pylori got when it was first identified, along with the fact that the “if it’s not in English, it doesn’t exist view that has been taken with a lot of German, French, Japanese and Chinese work…
I just read the link.
hahah, I love Gotelli’s response. Very good link, thanks.
“Yeah, I know I always do this…”
That’s why you’re made of WIN! *hugs*
Only person I see born into privilege is Romney. All the others seemed to have had hardscrabble to normal childhoods.
On with added cover ups of Animal abuse
This is obviously a product of someone educated in goobermint schools by union teachers – Learn to spell, folks, and maybe you’ll be taken seriously.
EPIC WIN!
…NO, NO, NO!!! You have all missed the point! You are all supposed to shutup and do what I tell you to do, and then to leave…chop!chop!…
Hasn’t anyone else here noticed that, despite the caption, only one of the men in that picture was born “privileged?”
Fred Thompson was born to a car sales and after graduating high school he worked two jobs, at the post office by day and a local bicycle assembly plant by night.
Rudy Giuliani was born to working class Italian immigrants. His father had trouble holding down jobs and ended up doing some time in prison.
Ron Paul was born to middle class parents and after worked as a Air Force flight surgeon before beginning his private practice.
Mike Huckabee’s father was a fireman and a mechanic while his mom worked as a clerk for the gas company.
These are not men born to privilege, but men who exemplify what the American Dream is all about. I would say the same thing about Bill Clinton or any number of democrat politicians as well.
Gah. My post under this one should have been nested so that it was in this branch of the thread tree. I’m afraid I repeatedly fail at clicking the correct “post here”-link. :p
No!?!?! Really? Well, that’s only been mentioned a few times above, but nothing like covering again…
Hasn’t anyone else here noticed that, despite the caption, only one of the men in that picture was born “privileged?”
Yes. They have even posted about it already.
At least in a monarchy the royals/aristos know that they are privilidged by birth.
A caption that actually goes with the picture would be a word balloon coming out of Giuliani’s mouth saying:
“Hey, Mitt, Huckabee just cut one”.
That has a nasty overtone, bearing in mind the dog…
[LINK] for those unaware of Mike Huckabee’s role in protecting his son from
being punished for hanging a dog to death
It’s a terrible story all around, but I only meant “cut one” in the sense of “farted”.
I know, but I prefer my version…
If that were true, wouldn’t Paris Hilton have made a better VP candidate?
“If that were true, wouldn’t Paris Hilton have made a better VP candidate?”
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Than Sarah Palin?
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*ponders*
I’m going to have to think that one over.
You know, before someone puts up a caption like that, maybe they should research the people in the picture?
Of the men in that pic, only Mitt Romney came from a wealthy household. The others all came from working class families. Fred Thompson’s dad was a used car salesman.
So basically, you have several Republicans who did make good through their own efforts.
Kinda blows the caption out of the water, IMO
No? Really? Dammit! It’s only been referenced her three or four times befrore you did, so I’m sure some missed it, and since I have the memory of a goldfish I’d forgotten…
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You some visitor from a ‘Special’ reader’s group or something?
When he answers “Yes,” will it make you feel bad?
Nope…
Based on his verb declination, the answer appears to by ‘yes’ and no I don’t feel bad
Seeing as it hasn’t stopped many from repeating the same idiotic line, it bared repeating.
Wow Fester, you actually just proved Shinobi’s point earlier in the thread, and I am sure someone else mentioned this, you read something you don’t like, so you attack the writer. You wouldn’t happen to be a member of the Nationstates game Forum, would you? You sound like many of the people there who call themselves liberals.
Neocons have proven to be narrow-minded idiots, are you looking to show that liberals are as well?
Bore repeating… the past tense of ‘bear’ (“to carry”, not “be naked”) is bore…
It’s not that I don’t like it, if you note I’m far more scathing in the thread about the Kennedys (and Mike Hucakbee, but that’s for being corrupt white trash) than I am the men in the picture. Hell, I have the same background…
No, I just got fed up of the same thing being said over and over and over… it’s like being post bombed by Autistic Savants…
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And you really shouldn’t call me a ‘liberal’ since that’s REALLY stupid… so, if you’re all butt hurt about me being a nasty man already, keep up the ‘liberal slurs and you’ll see just how much of a scalpel I can take to your asinine mouthings…
Hate to bust yer bubble, but there ain’t too many poor Democrats in the House or Senate, either.
Is there such a thing as a poor politico?
…NO, NO, NO!!! You have all missed the point! You are all supposed to shutup and do what I tell you to do, and then to leave…chop!chop!…
The Republican & Democrat factions are nothing more then marketing firms with huge budgets that independents can’t even dream of denting. Not that it matters anyway, elections today are nothing more then beauty pageants.
Yup…..
Except for Fred Thompson, who pretty much *did* claw his way to the top on his own, at least for most of the trip. I know the guy, know his kinfolks – he’s a friend of our family. Would you believe when he was in law practice by himself many many years ago, he was one of the few honest lawyers in West Tennessee? Iz tru dat!!
Really and honest an’ chit.
My grandfather grew up in a hideous one-room shack (no toilet, no plumbing, etc.) with ten siblings on a tobacco farm to a drunken Blackfoot dad and a beaten-down mom. He did extra chores for people after his picking was done so he could earn a pair of shoes so that he could walk to a better school (long way each way.) When he was 17 he lied about his age to get into the Navy and left his siblings (who were already turning into big old drunks and wifebeaters, drinking moonshine out of Ball Jars)and his miserable life, got an education, married a New England woman (he must have thought it was a social step up and for him it was, but they were Canadian immigrants and not much loved in that region for it.) and they settled in Jersey while he built up a very respectable and profitable (honest) electrical contractor’s business. It’s a long way to go, and he was not the most erudite guy, but he made a nice life for his daughter and grandkids.
He didn’t have any patience for people who wouldn’t work, that’s for sure. He worked round the clock sometimes. He still voted liberal, always did. Musta had that old idea of the Southern Gentleman Liberal, which doesn’t really exist anymore, does it? The Zell Milners, etc?
Every year we had those stupid signs on our lawn for the Democrat mayor or blah blah.
This is just as true of big-L Libertarianism, you know.
You mean because they believe in free markets? Or is it something else? I’m not a Big L anything (or big R or anything else like it) so I haven’t always bothered to do a lot of research on what they stand for. I saw a couple that were unacceptable, and there wasn’t much need to keep looking.
In response to “Liberalism” this should be “Conservatism.” Nice try.
My first thought as well. I figured someone would mention it
OHHH! I get it… not privileged just like Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Kennedy?
LOL
you missed my Kennedy posts above? or simply unable to read?
I definitely missed it. I can see now, dear uncle, that you might understand the concept of enjoying making people angry.
But, dearest uncle, you fail to take into consideration that not all people commenting on here have nothing better to do with their lives, as you seem to. I just so happen to be one of those with better things to do. Like a job! So, with that said, I am heading off to work, TA!
-Deb
Republicanism is the ideology of governing a nation as a republic, where the head of state is appointed by other means than hereditary, often elections. An important element of Republicanism is constitutional law to limit the states power over its citizens.
SO I see where you going…..but no
I see you’ve progressed to the “shouting on every thread” stage of the discussion. Do you think that’s really the best way to get your point across? Whatever it may be?
TBH, I wasn’t doing a tit for tat. I was simply pointing out that we can’t use one side of the other as the sole example of ‘marrying for money’.
OHHH! I get it… not privileged just like Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Kennedy?
Clinton wasn’t born into a wealthy family
Nothing wrong with pissing everyone off… they usually need it to make them THINK
How dare they besmirch the name of Ron Paul by listing him with those thugs! Dr. Paul is the only one with any integrity in that picture, racist or not!..
amen! Ron Paul is possibly the only honest, competent, man in the GOP. Also the supposedly racist comments were not even written by him.
thanks for sharing
Whoever captioned this needs to read Darwin, moron.