MY STIMULUS PACKAGE
MY STIMULUS PACKAGE Oh yeah, you KNOW you want it!
(President Barack Obama)
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Really I was just trying to start a dialogue of people’s opinion on the economic stimulus package … I really was hoping to see what other people are thinking.
Damn you got another one!! Excellence!!!
so i think it’s really funny and all, but why the poster format? it doesn’t make a ton of sense like this…
in any case, congrats literal!
The photo isn’t very big and because of the pose I didn’t want to type over the top of him. I tried putting it off to the left, but it just didn’t fit very well.
Thank you.
aaaaah, that ’splains it. i figured you had a good reason.
I frequently see speech and thought balloons cut off on sumbissions, and it would be nice if we could caption outside of the boundaries on smaller photographs, but alas, the only current method of doing so is poster format.
*smacks Literal for misuse of poster format*
Grab’s frou’s bum since she’s busy…
*smacks Fester*
*goes back to smacking Literal*
Froo! Stop smacking Literal; she had oral surgery yesterday. You’re going to make her head fall off or something.
nah, Diss It’s OK, Lit’s on painkillers…go ahead, Frou…smack away
‘Member the OxyContin we were discussing a few LOLs back?
I haz dem~!
*perks up in seat*
Well, feel free to share!!!
*gasps*
Wait a minute!!!! That stuff might make you a neo-con republican radio gasbag…better be careful…
OoooOHOOOOHOOooo I would like some OxyContins please.
By the way, this is charro.
Ugh … you can have them all. They make me feel horrendus, and fuddle my brainz too much to keep up with the conversations you all are having.
They do, however, dull the roaring agony that is my jaw, so I guess I shouldn’t complain too much about the side effects.
…
Would you like my mailing address? LOL
I’m sorry about your pain.
Tanks, charro.
It’s all relative, though, as this restorative surgery provided finality to a situation I have been dealing with since I was a child.
I’m glad I can finally say that incident is behind me, and I am nearly 100% again!
I love the poster format – I want one on my bedroom wall today!
I don’t think the poster format looks bad.
It’s so wrong that it brings a new level to wrongness, as has been discussed at length. If you can’t see why the use of the poster format is wrong here, then kindly remove yourself back to 4chan and let the adults have a conversation.
Don’t be mad at me, froo, or yoyoyo. I wasn’t trying to be wrong, and I think he/she wasn’t trying to offend.
It worked best this way, ‘cuz there wasn’t room on the pic to get the message across with the same level of sheer seckshual attitude and sheer arrogant self-confidence this Leibowitz pic portrays.
Seriously!
And I am so digging the postings here I can’t stop LOLing. I jsut reallly am too stoned to have anything remotely relevant to contribute. Wish I wasn’t, because this economic stimulus thing dictates whether or not I will be employed in the same position I currently enjoy in the next bienneum.
Don’t worry. I’ll ge back on the correct poster track next, because I do loves me some demotivators.
“Wrong?” The “poster format.” particularly the familiar type used here, with the secondary gag line, is what makes this work.
LOL!! Yeah, baby, YEAH!!
What? You want to talk economics? *pppffftttt*
Does it make you randy, baby!?
Who’s Randy?
Just checking to see if the avatar works…..
crap, all it did was change my name.
LG, You have no idea how much that made me laugh. And I’m not even sure why!
Oh, and try clearing your cache. That should do it.
Yes, that did it!
and I changed my name back but you can call me momly if you want….
momlyd grunt….
grumpy marmalade.
That’s a great name for a rock band!
*considers*
No, it isn’t. Maybe an AARP sponsored pr0n?
And now I have this song [link] stuck in my head. Thanks.
That happened to me too!
Anyone else remember Randy Vanwarmer, of “Just When I Needed You Most” fame?
I remember the song. Thanks for the ear worm.
Just looked him out… God’s death, but it’s Napoleon Dynamite sings AOR
AND yoouuuuu left me ….
OK, people!
*rolls up sleeves*
I didn’t start this, but since we’re in it…
*stands on chair*
*sings*
And sometimes when we touch
The honesty’s too much
And I have to close my eyes
And hide…
Well, if you’re gonna be *that* way about it…
*twirls two flaming batons*
See people rocking – Hear people chanting
Feeling hot hot hot
Keep up this spirit – Come on let’s do it
Feeling hot hot hot
It’s in the air – Celebration time
Music sweet – captivate your mind
We have this party song – This fundamental jam
So we go rum-bum-bum-bum
Yeah we rum-bum-bum-bum
Feeling hot hot hot
Feeling hot hot hot
You made me do this.
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*clears throat*
*begins singing*
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We’re no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment’s what I’m thinking of
You wouldn’t get this from any other guy
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I just wanna tell you how I’m feeling
Gotta make you understand
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CHORUS:
Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry, never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
*ignites Froo’s backside with flaming baton*
A comic for all of you geeks out there. [LINK]
Yay! Nice web comic. Not that I really needed more ways to extend my work breaks. :p
OOOH! Finally, a solution to one of my life’s most annoying little problems. It’s so simple, and yet so powerful!
(Problem: People asking me “but what is it you do” when I say I work as a programmer.
Solution: The answer in the [link])
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My existence just became even better. Thanks to a woman in Texas. The interwebs are wonderful.
me want lol.
omg so fail!
Major fail.
Good morning Mr. President. Here’s your morning line up.
First, you have Ginger Burns, she’s with Hillary Cliton’s orifice …
“hillary clinton’s orifice…”
.
eww.
Roll with it now …
…the Black Hole to misery…
the marianas trench…
…the Bog of Eternal Stench…
Oof, this is stuck, hand me the wrench.
Hey, why are you sitting on that bench?
Silence, wench!!
Go ahead and take a whiff…be a mench!!!
Not now… I’m watching Judi Dench!
close your legs hillary, you’re killing us with the stench….
Stop it, ubr! You’re making me flinch!
Look at that bird! Is it a finch?
Went to the surgeon, my face did a splinch.
Oh noes! Someone is giving me a pinch!
everybody dont move an inch!
You give ‘em a mile, and they take an inch.
Damnit now we have to get the winch.
Hillary looks like The Grinch…
and home of swamp gas..
you are NEVER allowed to mention hillary´s vagina… that´s SO not cool!
That’s where you draw the (bikini) line?
I’d draw that line right below her neck… *shudders*
I’d draw it a foot above the woman’s head… but she’d probably try to knife me in the gut while I did it…
Probably not but she might talk which some would say is worse.
Just ask Bill if you need verification.
Obama loving sycophants.
Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Obama
DWN! You are needed here!
Oh Wangy boy, the socks, the socks are calling.
*covers self in goo-proof rain slicker*
*passes out troll sticks*
are these eddiep originals? i’ve never had one of those!
Yep…with a slight modification: they pack about 100,000volts per whack…
*jumps up and down like a hyperactive little kid*
YES!
And I have no problem with the modifications. The original Troll Stick I developed was purely open source.
Thanks Eddie…here try one of these…see how you like it!
Oooooooooooh! Light as a feather yet with the feel of knowing you can cave a head in.. excellent mods!
And the best feature is that it’s got a teflon coating so the grey-matter wipes off with just a paper towel!!!
or possibly…
a SHAMWOW!!!
I especially like the sliding weight inside – keeps the balance back near your hand on the wind-up, then throws the extra mass right into the sweet spot on delivery. FORE!!!
And it has more sucking power than a hooker with a vacuum…
I gave that up with a lot of my normal posting amount weeks ago.
Sorry DWN, I think I missed that …
You didn’t miss much. Just an explanation as to the decreased activity I have had here. Nothing remotely special.
But I miss you terribly and think of you often.
Now you’re just messing with me.
*In best Rod Stewart*
“You’re in my heart…
You’re in my soul…
you’ll be my friend…
Should I grow old…”
BTW…how’s the cold?
“best…Rod Stewart?” How is that possible?
*duct tapes head together in case of asplosion*
Lynn and I are both over our colds but Iowa is still frigid. Apparently we are going to have a rise to 30 degrees later this week though I have my doubts.
Just be sure to snuggle to conserve bodyheat…
Of course, gotta keep in the body heat.
Q: Why does the Mississippi river flow south?
A: Because Iowa Sucks
More like it is boring but the joke is cute.
Except I can’t get it to make sense. I think both looking at milage and volume, more of the Mississippi River is south of Iowa.
Never siphoned a gas tank have you?
When you post something on this lol and it comes up in “Recent Comments” on the main page, it reads “IowaSucks on My Stimulus Package.” Which cracks me up.
LMFAO
OMG, that’s funnier than anything I’ve ever seen up here.
Thanks!
*snort*
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I now have yogurt stuck in the nostrils.. thanks for that!
Alright, now that was funny Diss. *rofl*
Q: Why Minnesota?
A: To protect Canada from Iowa
Q: What is New Jersey’s purpose?
A: To keep Medical Waste from the Atlantic off Pennsylvania
Q: Why is Texas so big?
A: Because Oklahoma sucks.
Q: Why is New Mexico so windy?
A: Texas blows and California sucks
Rhorho, no no.
Oklahoma is windy because Texas blows.
There is no gravity. Earth just sucks.
So did that joke…
@Eds: Is New Mexico still a state?
Only by virtue of the fact is anchored to Arizona and Colorado. Otherwise it would get sucked into the black hole called West Tejas.
Yes according to the weather people here it is supposed to get up to 50 here.. I’m not holding my breath.
According to my weather people it could be up to 45 on Saturday, but I’m talking Celsius.
Wow!! 45ºC = 113ºF !!
I’ve heard that Australia was undergoing a
heatwave, with several record breaking highs.
Have you heard anything about that?
the australian open the other day had temps around 120F…
ridiculous if you ask me…
especially for february…
Wow. Just.. Wow
I have heard something about that rho. Melbourne, where I live, had its second hottest day on record about a week ago (45.1) and had three consecutive days over 43 for the first time since records began more than 150 years ago.
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Most summers, we only have one or two days at 42 degrees in total. 43 is very rare.
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Tasmania, which is not far south of me, had three days over 37, where they had never before recorded temps over 35.
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Mildura, a town in the north of my state, is enduring the tail-end of 13 consecutive days over 37 and a similar amount of time where minimums never dropped below 25 even at night.
I just realise I repeated my self at the end there. Stupid text boxes.
And Saturday is supposed to be hot again! *sigh* which I had a pool. I guess I’m stuck bbq’ing again.
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On the same note, while it’s been hotter than anything, they are also predicting a rash of fires. We had two really bad ones in our area just the other day.
As it turns out, it got to 46.4 degrees. This is the hottest day in Melbourne since records began 150 years ago.
..as opposed to “abnormal” posting…
I’m thinking maybe you right wing trolls don’t really understand the proper way to criticize a president, so let me give you an example:
*ahem*
“I sure don’t agree with ($policy). It will cause ($problem) and ($other problem). Someone must do something to change this immediately!”
Otherwise, you’re just using the power of the internet to insult a large number of people you haven’t even met. You really should save your insults for face to face conversations, where you can have your nose properly flattened if you fail to speak courteously.
$.02
Well, said…I nominate Portland Mark for the position of “Troll Judge” and give him the ability to pass judgement on any and all who may fall under the Category of Troll…any seconds?
Aye
Aye, at least in Seth’s absence. Haven’t seen him on in a while.
Yeah, I’d accept “Vice President of Troll Education”, I think.
It’s agreed then…Portland Mark will head up the Troll Re-Education Camps!!!
Eddie is also promoted to “Master of Troll Discipline”…enjoy it, Eddie…
Naw. Eddie’s strength is in weapons R&D, but he lacks the
requisite blood lust.
I say Froo and Captain Wow should be in charge of the
actual smack-downs.
Can’t I be the stupidvisor… uh, I mean supervisor?
Well, of course! That would fall under weapons
field-testing, wouldn’t it?
OK, I’m good with that..
I’m afraid Froo wouldn’t be liberal enough with the use of said weapons.
Have you seen her death-penalty favoring in action?
There are none more brutal!
I’m afraid froo wouldn’t be liberal enough, full stop.
*takes it as a compliment and moves on*
nesting*
Yeah, because everyone was critising Bush in a very polite manner…
I know – Chimpy McShrub baby-murdering Nazi Hitler most evil man that ever lived – the left was so calm, reasonable and sane in their Bush Derangement Syndrome eh? It’s time to show the office of the president all the love and all the respect it’s gotten from the left in the last 8 years. Hard.
Like it or not, politicians tend to get what they deserve in terms of
praises and pans. If you think Obama has earned already earned the
ire that Bush did, you’re not seeing past your party, and can be
dismissed as a slack-jawed partisan. If you’re going to be that way,
and give up thinking, go ahead, but don’t expect anyone to take you
seriously.
Nonsense, and I’ll tell you exactly why. Bush was pelted with tomatoes AT HIS FIRST INAUGURATION, with the left staging huge protests and screaming and frothing at the mouth.
Now I didn’t vote for him (or McCain) but I’m more than prepared to give Obamalamadingdong ALL the love Bush got and then some – like it or not, a hell of a lot of people are. Enjoy the next four years; you bought it
(Oh, and he earned it coming in – Rev. Wright alone earned it for him, and that’s far from all there is. The sycophants have earned even more contempt than he has. I hope they’re ready
)
Bush was pelted because there were plenty who thought he stole the election, thereby drawing their ire. He started off on the wrong foot (which is another story altogether, but this is a bi-partisan smackdown, so I’ll refrain from giving my views on it).
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Obama, other than not being able to pick Cabinet members without crimminal histories and tax problems, has done nothing to draw fire yet. He ran a semi-clean campaign (as clean as any politician can run), and hasn’t DONE anything yet. He deserves no rancor as of yet.
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You’ve done what you’ve accused the Lefties of doing: you’ve drank the Kool-aid. Only, you’ve drank the Rushaid. Rush isn’t gospel, and if you take him as such, you’re only getting part of the story. Please, for the sake of Conservatives on this site, PLEASE quit making us all look like fools!!!
Luckily, we already know *you* aren’t a dummy. Your
ability to speak off-script has demonstrated that.
Froo has already covered the anger that led *some* people–
not *all* people–to throw tomatoes. Should I find you and
kill you because *some* people on your side like to burn
down abortion clinics?
I don’t really care how much hatred you manage to muster
towards Obama. It’s clear you can’t manage to wish the
country well, because you clearly don’t want us to be
successful unless we’re under a *Republican* president.
Rev. Wright is all you’ve got? Did your radio break? LOL!
$.02 … That’s the same as .02¢, right?
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I just listened to that audio clip on failblog. While it did lead me to want to stab out my eyes to distract from the pain, at least it made me appreciate the people around me more – they may be silly at times, but not in that lobotomy-category. Phew.
No. $.02 = 2¢ but .02¢ = two hundredths of a cent.
Yeah. It’s an hilarious audio clip on failblog:
failblog.org/2009/02/04/verizon-math-fail/
Oh, good. Sorry, D, I’m still on my first cup of coffee and I didn’t get the joke! I should have known you knew better.
No worries. I have a cold today and coffee tastes awful, so I’ve only had about two large cups. Just not enough caffeine. Smokes taste awful too, so not enough nicotine either. Bleh. :/
Anyway, this causes my head to feel even more turgid than usual, in all ways, and I barely even understand what I write myself, so I don’t expect anyone else to, either.
Ooh, that sounds awful. Sorry! Feel better soon.
Still, you manage to do well in a second language, whereas
I struggle with the first one under such dire lack of caffeine.
Hope you feel better soon!
Thanks, it seems to be a short-lived cold, I feel quite a lot better today. (Phew!)
Why does this rule apply to right wing trolls, but not to left wing trolls?
Although PM directed the comment at right-wing trolls, I think it’s of general applicability. Were you planning on trying out some left-wing trolling soon or is this just a general fairness consideration?
Silly diss, didn’t you know the right-wingers are violently against the fairness doctrine? It’s because they think left-wingers are for it, and no amount of facts will persuade them otherwise.
Or possibly because nobody really understands what it is…I have actually had a couple of people tell me about it and what I heard didn’t make any sense so I went and looked it up and it was somewhat different. Personally, I’m inclined to think it’s just adding an additional level of bureaucracy where none is actually needed.
It’s easy to implement.
1) wait for someone to complain
2) investigate
3) if its bull (which it mostly will be) send them a STFU letter
4) if it’s a valid observation, shut the buggers down…
But why have it in the first place? Under your plan, we have to have people to read the complaints from cranks, investigate them, and respond. What, exactly, is the point? Commercial television and radio generally are going to
present what the market supports (insipid top 40 music, ranting right-wingers, stock-car racing on the radio, whatever…); why should we tell them they, as a legitimate private enterprise, need to present something else? That’s what the internet’s for. Or, you know, buy some airtime.
We have the BBC, so it makes sense for us… In your third world hell, I’d say it doesn’t make sense but then why pretend that the news is more ‘truth’ than the Daily Show’…
Next up… nude juggling of live weasels….
Yeah, I wanted to give it a try but I wanted to be clear on the rules first. Can’t be too careful.
Ok, cool!
*takes a swing with the new and improved troll stick*
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Wow! That’s the best damn thing!! Unfortunately, the head caved in to easily. But I suspect that’s because it was an empty cavity. As they say, “No brain, no pain.”
If Obama was ever interviewed in playboy, this would be the Photograph they would use.
Well, he DID just pick Ogden as deputy attorney general – the guy who fought for the public to fund the Braille version of Playboy and has represented Hustler and porn production companies – seems like he has his eye on a different career direction when his term is up
Hell, I’d buy the Braille version of Playboy… but just for the Pictures…
His tie is lovely.
NO! He’s cute an all but he’s too high maintenance.
Yes, and he has that annoying pat answer for everything.
“I would talk about your feelings, but I have a country to run.”
“I would take out the trash, but I have a country to run.”
“I would check out the noise in the hall, but I have a country to run.”
*Snort*
Well, secret service would probably BE the noise in the hall…!
What has been imagined cannot be unimagined. Must find purging mindfire… *sets brain on fire as it hurts less*
Love it! God he’s hot. Seriously…yumm
We need his timulus plan like a hole in the head…it’ll be worse than Carter
What do you think about this statement: “President Barack Obama said Wednesday the recession will turn into “a catastrophe” if the economic stimulus isn’t passed quickly.”
He’s lying through his teeth. Everyone complained about Bush 43 using fear. All I have heard from Obama is the end is nigh! If they were really serious about economic stimulus, they’d cut taxes and government spending. Instead we dancing into the same failed socialism that has gutted the Europeans.
the same failed socialism that has gutted the Europeans
Oh, how gutted I feel….
*dabs Kool-Aid spew off of AC’s face*
Sorry about that, Dear. He’s one of our “special” people. He’s harm-
less, but messy. His addiction to failure has taken its toll, I’m afraid.
I remember him off another lol actually… I went to check when the avatars appeared as I thought he was another of AF’s faces (played the veteran card) but no… Some other fool entirely…
Another Saint Crispin’s Dayer… great.
There are manifold problems with the old campaign story ploy, the worst being that, no matter how hard you try, you’re always the hero of your own story. And, unless you were there, no one is REALLY that interested in the truth, just marble poems and people dying with very little blood, their limbs tastefully arranged and all their internal organs still internal.
It’s a bitch of a job, but in the end, it doesn’t add weight to one’s argument, and, as someone who chose to be shot at for a living, every man jack of them all have questionable judgement.
In bed, with a penis, in another country.
And that is the allotted amount of those comments for the next forseeable future.
Dead, in bed… et seq
Though I suppose you want to give some away, that is your perogative.
They come home to discover that all we want to see are
puppies in pockets and SS troops playing with kittens…
Sounds like visiting my mother’s house…
My mother’s a lot like Froo, and she collects clowns.
Real clowns or pictures of them or something?
You know how I feel about clowns…
Dessicated ones …
Yikes! Do not want!!!1
You know, I did not fear clowns as a young child. Then I watched some horrible made for tv movie about Gacy, and to this day I fear him and Brian Dennehy, as well as any other clown.
One word.. It
See that’s where I thought you got your name from.
She has marionettes, figurines of all sorts,
wall hangings, etc.
She has one on a swing that hangs in front
of the bay window in her bedroom. On the
positive side, my parents have never had a
break-in…
“she collects clowns”
OK, that’s just downright sinister..
I hate to tell you this but every single one of the friends and neighbors I knew when I stationed in Germany and the Netherlands now live in the USA (18 people and their families). They left because of the taxes, lack of services for those taxes, and lack of jobs. Europes unemployment rates are over double the USA’s, it takes months to get medical care and the welfare/dole are bankrupting your countries. Your hero, Obama, wants to increase the size of the government and members of his cabinet plan to print more money to do it…just like Carter tried back in the 70s. Europe is dying…socialism is the cause.
By the way, I am a veteran with 17 years in. I have been to 16 countries and have helped clean up Europe’s mess in Bosnia (sarajevo in 1993). My specialty is 2E173, communications maintenance. If you think I’m a liar, go right ahead. So far the only liars are you three.
As for Saint Crispin’s Day, Shakespeare and Robert Heinlein had it right. I believe that you socialists are the death of civilization. You scream and yell that there is a problem and then come up with a solution that is completely unworkable ( a great example is the war on poverty) and then blame others when it is discovered to be unworkable. Rather than throw the idea out, you throw other people’s money at it.
I hate to tell you this
No, you don’t.
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Europes unemployment rates are over double the USA’s, it takes months to get medical care and the welfare/dole are bankrupting your countries.
Europe is dying…socialism is the cause.
Interesting how different things look depending on from what angle you’re looking at them. Is the US flourishing right now thanks to avoiding socialism? Or could we be having some issues in the Western world that go a wee bit beyond the isms? (PS: Sweden is not going bankrupt atm, and we’re certainly not the least socialistic country you’ll find.)
“If you think I’m a liar, go right ahead. So far the only liars are you three.
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Which of you three do you think he meant?
I’d guess: Uncle Fester, AC, rhorho and Literal.
…
That’s four…just sayin’
Exactly.
St Crispin’s Day, you really didn’t get the joke… typical grunt.
1) Some don’t play the service card like it mean their
opinion carries more weight.
2) If you mean I’m a socialist, then you either wouldn’t
know a socialist if it shot at you, or you’ve got a brain injury.
But please, impress me again about how many wars you’ve died in for us to be able to say that you’re a moron…
I’d love to get me some of that European socialism. Where do I stand in line?
Europe
European socialism is found in Europe?!
Canada?
I fancy the Scandinavian countries, or perhaps Iceland. Mmmm, hot springs…
Namibia!!!!!
I read that as Narnia…
its OUR lamp post
Scandinavian women, too. Hurray!
Iceland and the Scandics are expensive for beer.
Otherwise, low crime rate, mininal to no religious influence on governance and , despite high taxation, a pretty high satisfaction rating for ’socialist’ programs like health care… hell, if it was warmer and not night there for three months of the year, I’d consider moving there… It’s pretty too…
It’s pretty during daytime, anyway. Sunrise in December: 11:30 am. I recommend visiting in June!
11.30 am is pretty far north, though. The latest sunrise here is around 9am, on the shortest days of the year. Malmö is probably earlier than that.
Amsterdam.
I liked amsterdam… only down sides for me
1) Too many foreign junkies (the Dutch don’t have much of a
drug culture, but you get a lot of drug crime passing through)
2)Dog crap on the pavement (side walk)… I have the feeling they
ship it in at night and spread it.
They do ship it in, it comes from Belgium, prob from the European Parliament, nuff shit there for every pavement in Europe.
the Dog crap capital of Europe is a place called Vence, near Nice… Never seen so much… and that was on the boule pitch… I can only assume it adds spice to the game…
Sometimes, the things you keep track of and remember amaze me.
It’s often about places I’ve been… I spent my 35th birthday in Nice. After I’d finsihed the job there, I spent a day in Vence… the people are nice, the Gendamerie laid back to the point of comatose and the dogs incontinent.
Hells Sink e
Right, because that’s worked so well already. Has it failed to occur to you that continuing the policies of the last administration will keep us on the same trajectory?
Every dollar spent on aid programs for the poor produces $1.74 in economic activity.
Infrastructure construction spending, $1.59.
Tax cuts, $1.03.
Effective economic stimulus comes from government as spender of last resort, not from tax cuts. Last stimulus package was $60Bn of tax relief and only $17Bn made it into the economy.
This isn’t from me, either. This is from Moody’s independent nonpartisan analysis (link).
TL;DR summary: It’s time for Republicans to stop lying about what stimulus works and what doesn’t.
But.. if they stopped lying, then
1) they’d have nothing to say
2) Baby Jesus would cry…
Just give him a bottle and he will quiet down.
can i have a bottle of tequila while you’re up?
*gives bottle* There ya go slick. Now to feed this baby a bottle made from the blood and tears of a thousand dead zealots.
Hah – I’m surprised no one thinks you’re me. It’s tragic that he’s selling people the KOOL AID – er – false notion that the government can spend spend SPEND the way into prosperity for the country. Bizarre that anyone would buy it, no? They just luuurv their KoolAid I guess.
It’s amazing what people will believe when they’re desperate. It doesn’t mean the’yre stupid necessarily, simply scared and skittish. Kool-aid is usually spiked with cyanide, not roofies…
Although I really don’t think that the bail out is a ‘good’ idea, I’ve not got another answer that will result in something other than a monopolistic financial services sector as one place mops up the smaller places.
Parable – back in the day, there were numerous CRM/PRM applications providers… now there is Oracle (who just bought up Siebel, who were to CRM what Hoover was to vacuums – people would say they had a ‘Siebel system’ when they meant CRM) or IBM… which forms a virtual monopoly depending on exisitng customer infrastructure… and most people in the market either have an IBM infrastructure existing, or something that suits Oracle… stifles innovation, stifles competition and means the the ‘best’ solution isn’t available, since anyone who comes up with something new is either bought up or run out of town on a rail…
correction…stimulus. key stuck
Timulus is fine. It reminds me of Cindy Brady.
Ahh! Help! Brain bleach needed!
So far I’m not impressed with the stimulus package. I think far too much of the money is going to end up in politicians “pet projects” that they’ve never been able to get funded before. (more of the same)
It should ALL be going to education, infrastructure, and health care IMO. There are thousands of construction projects right in my home state that are all drawn up, just waiting for funding. Drop the contracts NOW, why does it take so long to get anything done? Put the construction guys to work, when they start getting paid, they will start buying things. The construction industry feeds manufacturing, shipping, and material industries as well.
People on welfare or receiving money from politicians pet projects aren’t stimulating the economy. They need JOBS!
I agree totally with infrastructure…so long as we’re not building the Palin-bridge-to-nowhere. I would definitely be all for improvements to the national power grid, bridge and road construction/refurbishment…but I’d also like some of the money to go to Job re-training for the laid-off/unemployed…
and a lot less than $350B should go towards ‘tax breaks’…
If they are incentives that result in building payrolls, then it’s a great
idea. If they are monies put onto the top side of large corporate entities
to pad the bottom line, then it will be the old, failed “trickle down” fiasco
regurgitated.
It needs to be tax incentives for companies. Won’t help for a minute, but at least it will create jobs in the long run.
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But I think you just said that
In my company, that “tax incentive” would simply put XXXX number of dollars into the pocket of the CEO. It wouldn’t create ANY more jobs, because unless we increase production, there is no reason to hire employees.
It goes more toward not exporting jobs overseas. We have to give people a reason to keep their workers here.
What if the reason they ship jobs over seas is so that upper management can take a bigger slice of the profits by cutting labor costs?
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You can’t fix greed.
You can’t fix greed, but you can organize around it,
taking it into account. Tax incentives for keeping our
citizens employed here are easy enough to install.
A few companies have already gone back to using
local people on their own. The profit increase from
farming jobs to cheap labor markets has not been
realized to the extent predicted in some cases. A little
nudge from the government could easily get more
Americans working on American soil.
Agreed, it certainly could be done correctly. I’m just saying that we can’t count on employers to ‘do the right thing’ because they will simply do the most profitable thing.
We agree, because I’m saying to take greed
as a given, and work with it, not against it.
you can… it involves placing a 50cal at the base of their skull and discharging it in the board meeting… then ask if there are any questions…
Oh, I imagine the cleaning crew would have a few questions. Starting with “You don’t expect me to get all that up, do you? It’s not in my job description, I’m telling you!”
That’s why you keep hold of the 50 cal while you
explain their job parameters and reload …
you can tell I’m not cut out for HR work.
I’m thinking more “motivational speaker”…I know the 50 cal would motivate the hell out of me!
i prefer shotguns… they make people think harder…
@ubr: And they don’t even have to see them! Just that lovely sound they make when you pump a round in…starts the thinking process very quickly!
That lovely sound gives me chills even when I’m the one doing it!
“That’s why you keep hold of the 50 cal while you
explain their job parameters and reload …
you can tell I’m not cut out for HR work.”
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Yeah, you’re not evil enough. A real HR person would think of something more lingering and painful.
*pops up* Did someone call for me?
@Tessie
Lingering isn’t efficient… another reason I’m not HR material…I like an economy of movement
So you’re saying I am in the wrong department at my job…
Froo, the reason the companies move our jobs overseas is because they can. They simply won’t be happy until all workers make the same low wage enjoyed in China (or wherever becomes the cheapest when Chinese wages start to rise).
The point of globalisation was to internationalise manufactory, and the old ‘grunt’ jobs becoming part of a ’service led’ economy… part of the old myth of infinite growth with finite resource.
The issue to me, in terms of laissez faire/anarcho-Captialist policies is that they have at their heart the idea that the ‘market will always select the best solution’… when actually the market favours monopoly or cartel, and the consumer then has no choice at all…
It all depends on which criteria are used to define “best solution”, doesn’t it?
“Best” for the CEO, or “best” for the average Joe?
The ostensible ‘criterion’ is ‘the marketplace buyer’…and monopolies are not the friend of the marketplace
Although I love the idea of a “Salary Cap” for CEO’s whose companies take Bailout money…they’re just going to have to be sure of the language so they don’t find loopholes for bonuses…
a $350B tax break for corporations will mean absolutely nothing except that the companies can actually report income somewhere near their actual level… what we really need is to spend that $350B on public works projects or retraining. that will have real tangible benefits…
Oh, I agree on the infrastructure. I’m just afraid the amount of money allocated to it won’t be near enough…
Absolutely nowhere near. Just to bring our existing infrastructure up to code will take $2.2 TRILLION.
Thank Ronald Reagan for killing off scheduled maintenance spending.
I would love to see a cap that determines how big the pay gap between the worker and the top management can be for any company that gets bailout money. When you have workers making 40k, foreman making 60k, and top management making 400k you have a problem.
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I know how you can justify anyone to making 200% more than the person right below them.
^obviously my example is more than 200%, but I think double the salary below you is the absolute max I find acceptable.
I’m terrible at math, so I didn’t even notice.
The lag time between supply and demand is inevitable. Right
now, we’re facing that problem in the banking industry. People
are not applying for loans because they have tightened up
their belts. Business are not applying for loans because they
aren’t assured that their production will generate the profits
needed. The interest rates are higher, because, in these dark
economic times, every risk is that much riskier.
The outlook is bleak. I expect theft/robbery and violent crimes
to increase due to the economic downturn, and stress, and
small business arson to become commonplace.
speaking as someone who works in the banking industry, your conclusions are incorrect… consumers and business ARE applying for loans like crazy, what isn’t happening is money being lent. the banks got those huge cash infusions from the government and they still have not loosened up any money to loan to anyone…
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right now in california home prices are the lowest they’ve been in about a decade and mortgage rates are at all time lows and still the banks are not giving out loans to anyone who doesn’t have a 740 FICO, high down payment and a 40% DTI… basically, they don’t want to give out their money because they feel that the economy is going to get worse and they don’t want to run out of money… but if they don’t start lending money the economy will get worse… so, it’s a self fulfilling prophecy…
They don’t want to make an unsecured (no down payment) loan to a bad loan risk (less than perfect credit history) because they have been burned. Burned badly. It’s completely understandable. A credit card is a bit different because you’re not taking 30 years to pay it off. A house, if it doesn’t get paid for, is a drain on the bank.
Checkout out FixHousingFirst.com for a proposal for a great solution to the recession. It’s a solution that has been used before, in 1975 and has worked! Checkout the list of businesses that support it. (I have the link attached to my name.) Write to your representatives about it, there is a link on
the website for that too.
Excellent! Thank you for a great idea!!
YW! I just want to get the word out on this, I think it could be a real boost to the housing market which would start the ball rolling. Here’s hoping this thing can turn around soon…
The Isakson amendment passed by voice vote in the Senate yesterday – proof that if a Republican brings out a good idea that ought to work, it can get a fair hearing.
i’m not referring to bad loans, but rather good borrowers who still can’t get a loan… 20% down, high credit, and low debt to income ratio… loans that should be slam dunks…
Can you provide information on the notion that people
and businesses are applying for loans more frequently
as of late? I have heard the opposite on TV news, and
am trying to find information. To my mind, a decrease
in loan applications is consistent with a decrease in
spending, and a decrease in business profits. I’m still
looking for a source, but thought you might have one
handy in the meantime.
I’ve heard tell (around here, anyway) that money and smaller loans are still fairly easy to get. Banks just don’t want to make big loans. I can’t cite it, because it’s anecdotal, but I have heard it.
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Texas is a bit of a special case, though. We still have jobs and a growing (albeit slowly) economy. I’m waiting for the bottom to drop out.
Hasn’t Tejas normally weathered economic downturns better than the rest of the country (historically speaking)?
I think that’s a function of geography more than anything. Texas has a lot of surface area, and is diverse enough to be able to improvise. Also, we have Gulf access, which helps a LOT.
Texas has weathered hard times better in
general, but that has much to do with the
Law of Large Numbers. Pockets of single-
industry areas (Pittsburg comes to mind)
are hit harder than the rest, but overall,
our resources and diversity have sustained
us. The Houston area used to be rather
dependent on the dicey oil and gas market,
but developed a rather tough skin (increase
in economic diversity), especially after the
Enron collapse.
texas also has extremely strict lending laws… so all the people that bought houses in the last ten years have not had the opportunity to increase the size of their mortgages (cash out)… you would be amazed how much teh housing industry effects the rest of the economy… especially regionally…
Loans in Texas can be obtained from banks
and brokers out of state. When I was home
shopping, I was told that I could qualify for
a house that was 8 times my annual gross
income. Of course my insistence on having a
fixed-rate mortgage caused eye rolls at the
time. If I weren’t such a cynic and miser,
I could be homeless now.
yup, but the lender must be licensed in texas…
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the point i was trying to make is that it is hard to pull money out of a house in texas without selling it… here in CA home owners were pulling money out of their house about every 6 months. as property values rose this seemed like free money. now that property values have dropped a lot of these borrowers are no upside down on their loans and cannot pull out anymore money to pay off their credit cards and etc. so, while the texans have just paid down their loans, the californians have lived above their means and been screwed over by their own greed.
Something must have changed, or credit card
regulation is different somehow. As far as I
know, credit card banks (mostly from
Delaware) were offering usurious rates at one
point, and I remember reading that many
Texans were affected. You would know better
than I, but I recall reading that Delaware
law requires banks to operate out of their
state in order to conduct business with their
state citizens, so many banks are based
there. IIRC, 15-ish years ago, TX maximum
interest rate was about 18%, but Texans with
DE cards were being charged up to 21%.
credit cards have completely different regulations than home mortgages… check out the link… those are the texas cash out refi guidelines from a major bank… (suntrust)
i don’t have any specific citations that i can link to, but at my office, our loan originations have tripled from november to january… i believe that most of it comes from the fact that interest rates for home loans is at 5.00% or less…
Are the people trying to re-fi or consolidate, or
are these new home purchases? I can see how
this would be a great time to buy a first home,
if one is in a stable job.
mostly purchase business, but there have been lots of rate/term refinances… people who bought homes more than 4yrs ago and have not refi’d since are now taking the lower interest rates and getting a better deal on their house. since they bought their house before the market really took off they still have equity in their homes…
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and also, all these loans use income based off of tax returns so there are no “liar loans” anymore…
I’d be surprised if people who bought in the last four years could refi even if they weren’t underwater, the way the mortgage-backed bond industry sliced and diced and recombined tranches. It’s gotten so a mortgagee can’t find the holder on his note anymore; you have to get 15 different bond holders into the room ust to renegotiate.
we do them all day long… the note holder changes, but the servicer usually stays the same… it’s not hard to get a pay off demand…
I would agree with your assessment. Downunder the Reserve Bank announced another 1% drop in the interest rate in an effort to try an stimulate the economy, which the 4 major banks have passed on to the consumers. The difference between here and the U.S. is the banks are lending and the government has thrown in a $21k first time home buyers grant. While it hasn’t been determined if this is going to help, at least both the government and the banks are doing something.
Yeah, the banks here have no money supply problem, so they aren’t as afraid to lend like business as normal.
speaking as someone who works in the banking industry, your conclusions are incorrect
I’m going off of what economists are saying. I think you
may be extrapolating your bank’s anecdotal experience
to a national scale.
People are tightening up their purse strings. Those used
to getting new cars every 2-3 years are making do with
what they have. Lack of consumer confidence has
affected consumer spending. Surely you’re not arguing
that fact
i’m not arguing that consumer confidence has affected consumer
spending. what i am trying to argue is that consumer confidence
has affected lending as a whole…
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i’m not trying to toot my own horn here, but i work for one of the major banks in the country… i won’t say which one because i will be universally hated for even bringing up their name… but the banking industry as a whole moves together.
when we see a trend, everyone jumps and falls in line behind it. it’s not the best system in the world, to say the least, but that’s the way it works… we’ve seen banks increase lending requirements to the point where good loans are not being written because the bank does not want to give out the money… we keep track of these changes in our competition like a good sailor keeps his high on the wind. if everyone starts tightening up their requirements we all figure that they know something bad is coming down the line… which winds up
being a self-fulfilling prophecy…
Basically, if the banks hadn’t been trying to screw each other then it wouldn’t have been an issue…
“It needs to be tax incentives for companies.”
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It needs to be tax incentives for companies that keep or create jobs in the U.S.
That’s what I was implying, but you said it more clearly
a direct relationship between tax cuts and job increases? wow. that would work… too bad we’ll probably never see it cut down that specifically…
You keep saying “cuts.” Try thinking “incentives,”
whereby taxes are reduced based upon certain types
of behavior, such as hiring U.S. citizens to work on
U.S. soil.
either way it means the same thing… (at least in my mind)
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but i have a nasty head cold right now and incentives takes more pounding on the keyboard which hurts my head. haha
The trick is how to do it without pissing off China… If it came to an economic faceoff they basically hold all the good cards.
Okay, I’m gonna put my liberal credibility on the line and say that the “bridge to nowhere” was an example of good government spending. At least, it would anywhere but Alaska. Here’s my thinking:
The bridge would cost a lot of money, and would initially benefit a small population. However, once property on the island was auto accessable, property values would rise, and more people would move there. More homes, stores, and what not would mean more jobs.
I’ll grant you, I don’t think you’d generate 225 million in productivity, but you would if you did the same thing to a couple islands near Portland.
I’m probably factually wrong, but I just want to throw this out there.
I agree, Steve. I can’t believe that Caterpillar had a massive lay-off just when
our country is in massive need of road and bridge projects, electric grid work,
etc. Our steel industry needs a good boost, too.
Our educational system needs a massive re-vamp in the wake of “No Child Left
Behind,” and our entire collegiate system needs to be looked at in terms of the
national investment that it is.
Our health care system is a total joke. Drug R&D costs are largely borne on the backs of our seniors and people too sick to work. That’s backwards! So is the lack of preventative medicine and education.
The plans I’ve read/heard about so far are not addressing what we need to get out of this mess.
The other thing that worries me is that in our “haste” to get this passed, that we’re not looking long-term enough. Just like you said, Rho…there’s sooooo much that needs revamped.
Does this remind you of another bad idea a couple of months ago, that if we DON’T PASS THIS NOW ARMAGEDDON WILL BE UPON US AND FIRE WILL RAIN DOWN FROM HEAVEN AND WE”LL ALL DIE HORRIBLE DEATHS!!! PASS IT!!!! PASS IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!
I think they are both bad ideas, and simply ways to pay off cronies. Bush’s banking buddies, and Obama’s election helpers.
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Hmmm?
Two Douglas Adams quotes:
“Don’t panic.”
“You live and learn. At any rate, you live.”
Can you forward those on to the current administration?
On the other hand, can we afford to do nothing? This whole thing has me verklempt…On the one hand i agree that it’s a TON of money that could be put to better use in alot of areas in need…on the other hand, I don’t know near enough about economics to know who’s right and who’s wrong….
Doing nothing is not the answer. It’s as bad as doing the wrong thing. Which, needs to be told to the current administration, who seems to be looking at GWB for tips on how to fix an economy.
where’s my towel?
Sorry, froo, but your comment and MG’s taken together are making me lol even harder at the Republican obstructionists. Because after they whined and complained and wheedled and got a stimulus bill that was 1/3 tax cuts (see above about how effective tax cuts are vs. direct spending for stimulus, i.e., not very), they refused to vote for the thing because it put too much into long term programs and not enough into what they thought would create jobs now now now *stomp stomp stomp*.
Ironically, after wheedling for tax cuts, they said what they really wanted was more of the infrastructure spending they were against in the first place.
What they really want is for the whole damn thing not to work, so that in 2010 they can say “See? It didn’t work.” Never mind that they’re the reason it didn’t work to begin with.
We had this discussion a few LOLs ago – the Republican agenda is to kill any part of government that actually works, so they can turn around and say government doesn’t work and deregulate further.
Froo has indicated in the past that she sees the whole thing as a
fairly even tennis match, with both sides being equal, and the ball
just volleying back and forth.
She doesn’t understand the concept of knit-unravel, where the
unravelers point at the mess on the floor (worse than the original
tidy ball of yarn) they just made and blame it on the knitters, and
saying that there is no point to knitting, then wondering why they
are cold in the winter.
That last paragraph is a verb agreement nightmare! This is
admittedly oversimplified, but it’s intended as a metaphoric
outline, and, as such, is not going to be perfect:
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1. Dems knit.
2. Reps unravel.
3. Reps blame unraveled mess on Dems.
4. Reps claim no point in knitting.
5. People wonder why everyone is cold.
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Current situation:
GWB/BHO Changeover:
1. Dems discover raveled mess on floor.
2. Dems look carefully and notice tangles and knots.
3. Dems must retwine yarn before knitting again.
4. Dems mus simultaneously plan new knitting project.
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Predictions:
4. Reps blame Dems for tangles and knots.
5. Reps laugh at time it takes Dems to re-ravel yarn.
6. Reps campaign to begin unraveling again.
Prediction 7: Cat enters room and “helps” with tangled yarn.
Actually, I think the metaphor could be continued with something like “Dems knit everyone three ugly sweaters (one size fits all!) when what we really needed was an afghan. Reps take 1 sweater from each member of middle class and give it to CEO, who has no use for it. Organization protests use of knitting needles as “dangerous”; much discussion arises over whether use and sale should be regulated. Everyone freezes.
Disclaimer: I may possibly just be annoyed and cranky with everything at the moment.
I do think yours is a good metaphor, Rho!
It’s as good of a metaphor as I can dream up at the
moment. I thought of adding a section in which all
of the knitting was farmed out to China, and China
did such a good job that everybody let them take
over. I’m possibly annoyed and cranky, too.
[LINK] Knitting for Psychos
this might just be my personal venting on the subject, but i think the dems and the reps both held the string and proceeded to run around in circles…
…so my envisioning the yarn soaked in gasoline and
put into a cement mixer truck isn’t so far off base?
rofl. nope. seems quite on point to me.
*looks at numeral sequence*
*sets up caffeine IV*
In addition, Obama’s own website survey “Open for Questions” revealed that drug reform is at the top of the priority list for many Americans, as not only something that needs attention, but as a way to resolve our current financial crisis.
[LINK]
*quits doing Bong hits with Michael Phelps*
*cough*
Did you say drug reform?
‘cough’?
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that smoke was expensive! you better not waste any!!
Yes, MG…reform…as in legalized, regulated, and taxed. Create a few million jobs right here in the US.
*takes a rip..passes bong back to mothergoose*
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Two of the biggest companies in our nation are Phillip-Morris and Anheiser-Bush…is it any secret that Americans love our recreational drugs? Instead of letting all of our money go to Mexican cartels, why not keep it right here in America? They could eliminate the international drug trade because the they already can’t compete with the quality that comes out of northern California, once it’s legal they won’t be able to compete on price either.
BUY AMERICAN!!!! Maui Wowie!!!!
*full disclosure alert*
Mothergoose does not endorse recreational drug use; however, she UNDERSTANDS it!!!!
imagine if we starting taxing drug sales… instead of the drug war being a massive drain on our economy we would have a major boost from taxation. and we could start taxing the income of the dealers and growers… all of a sudden we might not have any economic problems at all… and california might actually be able to balance a budget…
That was my thinking too. We tax cigs so why not pot? Driving under the influence could still be a crime but we wouldn’t have cops shaking people down just to find a minor drug. The dealers could be productive citizens and a lot of the seedy crap could be filtered out of the business.
Think of the economic boost from the sale of Twinkies and Doritos alone!!!!
i saw a show last night about how the state of california has seized more than than 5M plants in 2008… with an estimated street value around $15B… even with just sales tax we’re talking about huge volumes of revenue for the state…
Let alone the business licenses for the dealers and growers.
And California could use the money…or so I hear!
But remember the bottom would fall out of the market. A pack of 20 joints might bring in about $10, half of which would be tax, at a rough guess?
So that current street value of $15Bn would have a legal commodity value more like $1.5Bn or less.
right now CA is out of money… every penny would help… haha
true the value would go down if supply goes up, and one has to wonder how they would regulate the growers. would it just become farming or would the gents that were hiding in their basement still have a job. i doubt the second, still it would be a better direction to take. it would make more legal jobs and bring in more taxes into the system.
I’m just worried how it would effect healthcare
hopefully it would turn into farming… just like tobacco is…
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and i think it would be more beneficial to healthcare than most would imagine… marijuana is one of the few pain killers on earth that you cannot overdose on… it’s also one of the few appetite stimulants that does not have crazy side effects…
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[link] is a great documentary on weed/hemp and it’s multitude of uses…
well i was more thinking of a story, my sister broke her arm in holland, and apparently they couldn’t give her painkillers cause they couldn’t be sure what was in her system or something. But that may just as easily be incompetence. of the doctor. it just gets me thinking is all.
I agree with you, but would add that there are some interesting evidentiary issues with the driving under the influence question. With alcohol, you have an objective measure, the BAC, while with pot not so much. The standard drug-test stuff for pot measures THC metabolites in the urine, which will throw a positive for a significant period of time after the last use, whether the person’s actually high or not. That really just leaves the roadside-sobriety-test kind of thing, which even when videotaped is somewhat subjective. I realize that’s an issue whether pot’s legalized or not, but it’s something that should be thought about so that it can be dealt with in a reasonable manner.
a field sobriety test with some sort of reaction test would probably work best… that or the normal pupil dilation test…
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in CA we have the “safe speed law” which means that a cop can give you a speeding ticket / under the influence ticket without having any proof. all that has to happen is the police officer has to cite that the safe speed for your current condition (and the road’s) is lower than your actual speed…
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this sounds pretty weird, but one of my dad’s 5150 clients got a speeding ticket and the cop wrote on the ticket that the safe speed for her was 0 mph…
That’s damn clever, but again, subject to some serious abuse. All teh evidence about the driver’s condition factoring into safe speed would come down to the officer’s testilying. (That’s not a typo.)
having been on the wrong side of testilying a couple times i readily agree with you… but with in dash videos and etc these days it’s getting easier and easier to check a police officer’s credibility…
I agree with legalization of pot, but I want a quid-pro-quo.
I want tougher penalties for DUI, (as well as driving with a suspended/revoked license), and if you’re so drunk/stoned that you are convicted of neglecting your kid’s well-being, I want your reproductive organs removed.
Actually, I want that to apply to anyone who neglects their children, not just winos and potheads.
Deal?
sounds good to me.
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as long as we still get to stone stupid people. they really get on my nerves.
I agree.
The roads are no place for recreational drugs. I wouldn’t mind if they made a law similar to the “open container” law for alcohol. If you have weed in the car that isn’t sealed up, keep it in the trunk, out of reach of the driver.
somehow i am starting to find obama sexy… it´s really weird. that´s not for oldies.
Hey, sexy is the new black.
Really? Hmm, better tone down the ol’ sex appeal- I don’t want to get clubbed next time the police pull me over…
I do love dark humor.
DO NOT WANT.
Hehe – it’s kind of creepy that anyone does, ain’t it?
not as creepy as reading
“Anniee451 on MY STIMULUS PACKAGE” on the recent comments list
but I’m peurile like that…
Ya know, I’ve had more horrible mental imagery then again I’ve developed coping mechanisms over the years.
I missed the quotes on ‘creepy’
I keep finding things like ‘PortlandMark on MY STIMULUS PACKAGE’ funnier than some of the lols…
Turning the economic crisis into a dick joke win.
Why not, we’ve been getting “screwed” enough, haven’t we?
With due respect… all politco’s want to screw you… some at least offer to kiss you while they do it, while the majority just mutter ‘brace yourself’ as they go in dry…
Is there a “reach-around” involved, or would that be “Politically Incorrect”?
Depends which orifice they’re going in…
I didn’t even know it was that sort of joke, till now *applies mind soap*
“a dick joke win.”
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Dick jokes are by definition a win.
“If you prefer margarine, I will bring you the finest margarine the world has ever known. There will also be peas.”
That’s better then lard being passed off as margerine!
I wonder where my avatar went?
Did you use a different email address?
Yeah, I realized that after I posted.. silly me!
^_^ You fail, please try again
Regardless of any political opinion, this isnt even funny.
Why is this on here?
I swear, people could just put any picture of obama and some unfunny text and its instantly a hit.
Poor you, as*hole. Sorry your sense of humor is stuck in retard mode.
I’m a conservative, and I find this amusing. It’s on here because it’s funny.
Don’t like it? Go back and visit Uncle Rush. Your “regardless of any political opinion” comment is just ridiculous.
You give us a bad name.
Ijjy gives you a bad name for pointing out that this thing isn’t FUNNY? The guy who made it knows it isn’t funny FFS – who the hell are you anyway? Not a conservative, I can tell you that much. Maybe a RINO maybe an “independent” leftist, but either way you’re an as*hole. Now go back to your Bill Maher and your Keith Olbermann, eff-tard.
Well, that was bracing from our resident ‘more right wing than Colbert’
Was that supposed to be funny, or just trolling… I’m sure your bible must have something to say on the subject of being an asshole to strangers…
So pretty much you are more concerned about whose “team” he/she is on than you are about anything else. If anything, it is just a dick joke which apparently a number of people found funny. Personally I barely snickered but eh, who cares really?
You should have directed that comment at “gettin ijjy with it”, DWN. It would have made sense that way.
It made perfect sense exactly where DWN put it. Look at your
post. You are nothing but a partisan, which requires no thought
whatsoever. Perhaps that is why you don’t understand the
relevance of DWN’s comment to you. Have you thought of that?
Oops, sorry!
It was ridiculously stupid to castigate me when it was getting ijjy who exemplified the attitude.
You’re such a dutiful little cheerleader though – ever get tired of waving those pompoms? Do your yippy little terrier teeth ever get tired of nipping at people’s ankles? You seem pretty tireless about it, but you must have to turn in circles and lay down sometime, right?
Or, actually, you could get a pretty simple program to take over for you during those times – that’s how you do it, isn’t it? You just have to set it to post right behind Fister and Co., and put together a couple simple sentences using “partisan” and “slack jaw” and then you could sleep as long as you wanted. And even take the time to sharpen those nippy little terrier teeth before you got back on personally.
Rah rah rah!
Darling, you’re making no sense.
Since economies are pretty much all positive feedback systems, or have major elements of dynamical(sic) instability, the amount of noise this creates down the line is not-really predictable. If a good job is done, I’d say latter part of the 21st C… based on the raging incompetents we seem to have in business and politics, it could be the same dance in 8 to 10 years…
At least you can join us in the “Paying for Broken Social Security” boat.
boat? more like the titanic… and everyone under 35 happens to be in the band…
From the top guys… ‘Nearer My God To Thee’ any minor key, I don’t think the crowd are with us…
B.O. is full of HYPE not hope
Sad but true.
Bend over, taxpayers! You’re about the get the biggest screwing of your life.
Ain’t that the truth.
It’s a bizarro world where enormously massive government spending (steal-n-spend or borrow-n-spend) can be called economic “stimulus.” When you’re broke and your bills are months behind, unpaid, and you borrow ten times what you owe, only to spend it on putting in new floors and painting your house, that isn’t a stimulant to your financial situation. Nor is this abortion of a bill a stimulant to the national economy. Economists have finally been advising that the proper course of action for *government* would be to stop trying to fix it and let the market adjust. If they want to help, they can cut taxes; that does the trick. But the sheeple just believe government can save them and take care of them and make everything right. And drag the rest of us along with them into the toilet.
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ah but that wasn’t a filthy commie, that was a right winger…
I think you meant to say “righteous” winger there…
And we can always count on the devoted Rho to follow behind Fister, scooping the poop. Be sure to use a baggie this time!
Rho, I think you forgot a turd over here. It’s kind of a weird yellowish-orangy color, and stinks of ass-hattery.
Don’t go near it! Those are the vilest ones.
*peers through binoculars*
Ewww. It kind-of looks like it has a face in it.
Nothing like the articles of faith of an anarcho-capitalist to round off the day…
And the market adjusting into a monopoly would benefit who, exactly? If you get a monopoly or a cartel, it’s game over for the system, since you’d have to force it to break up into artificial units, rather like the abortion AT&T became… which is Govt regulation which is Kryptonite to the idea of a ’self regulating market’.
It’s like dealing with people who quote the bible like it’s more than the collected sayings of a defeated people 3500-2000 years ago…
Awww, Fister still has a hard-on for me – that’s kind of cute. I wonder when he’ll get over it?
So addressing the counter evidence to your claim was beneath you this evening?
What is that, your idea of a joke? Bite me.
How about a gentle nibbling, since you’re just HOT!
And I stand by the comment that Anarcho-Capitalism favours cartels or monopolies, thus the system can only destroy itself in the most counter of all free market endpoints outside of complete state ownership (which is the Communist Monopoly).
Annie give up. These people define themselves by what they accomplish on a site that has it’s origins in /b/
Thanks from breaking off from sifting through garbage for food to enlighten us…
Thank you for proving me right
oh yeah baby-i want it!
How come they never captioned Bush with “President Bush” like they do with Obama? That’s pretty annoying…
One. Trillion. Dollars.
Um…not so much.
This isn’t the ‘change’ I voted for, dips#1t.
* le sigh *
Got a better idea that doesn’t result in a de facto monopoly in American financial services?
Amen!
FIRST DO NO HARM, Obama!
Jeezus H. Tapdancing Chryst!!! WTF are you THINKING?!?!
See my question above.
To allow the market to do as it will (which was my first choice, but that was more a fit of pique than logic) would result in the American Financial Services sector reduce to a playing field of one to three very large players – a Monopoly or something that closely resembles a Cartel. This is not a good thing for the market (customers) since it stifles innovation and choice…
That’s not to say the stimulus package is a ‘good’ idea, simply the least worst one that can be quickly implemented… If you wanted a GOOD solution, then you’d have to guarantee someone had more than 8 years as CEO of America Incorporated to pull that off…