THOUGHTS
THOUGHTS: Our President now has them.
(Barack Obama)
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First!
*smack*
Damned first!
*waves fly swatter menacingly*
I’ll get you..
*smack*
*joins charro*
I’ve still got my pink mace can! Break yoself bobblehead!
Yes, yes you are. Proud, your parents has it.
Moving on…
Tertiary syphilis – bobblehead has it…
Let me guess, you voted for Bush.
I did.
Well, at least you admit it… now… are you sorry for it?
Did you know that wearing untreated wool reduces your chances of acid reflux?
Now this is just unfair. Bush’s thinkerator was just full of cool thoughtchamajiggies.
I thought it was just full of hot air.
No, no, no. Plenty of thoughtchamacallits in there. “I’m totally right about this,” “Jesus loves me better’n you,” and “Damn, I miss drinkin’” being among the most frequent.
“damn, i miss drinkin”? more like “damn, i miss doin rails off coke whores in dallas…”
Now now, don’t give coke and whores a bad name.
“damn, i miss drinkin”? more like “damn, i miss doing coke rails off strippers in dallas…”
Me too! Except it wasn’t Dallas.
Damn I’m boring…
It’s only glamourous the first few times. Then you realise you’re doing coke off a stripper and it’s less glamourous.
Ok, not really. It’s always fun.
I’ll take your word for it.
Probably wise.. After a while it messes up unuzuly lrg branes.
Ah, gotcha.
Borking good times Charro!
the only thing better than doing coke with strippers is… um… i’m drawing a blank here… oh yeah… doing coke with strippers!
…and doing body shots with them!!!
I really enjoy strippers….too bad there aren’t any good ones in Wisconsin.
There’s a place in Lake Geneva.. Something about Sugar Shack I think. It was decent.
Good to know! I went to a couple places near here, and I wasn’t terribly impressed. They’ve both since been closed due to prostitution indictments!
I went to one off Duval street in Key West that was simply awesome…Red Garter or something like that. Maybe I’ll got check out Lake Geneva for my Birthday!
I recommend it, but it is far more expensive than the strip clubs I am used to in AZ. But still, it was decent.
=o)
im too young to go in but i hear that Silk Exotic is realllly good
And who doesn’t?
Too funny!! Thinkerator! Thoughtchamajiggies! God, I wish I had known those words throughout the last eight years!
Technically not our president until Tuesday.
Also it more looks like he’s thinking of where the penny the Secret Service hid is more than coming up with something to rule the nation. Not making a comment on his abilities, just on the image.
Gotta agree with this assessment; not so much a “thinker” pose.
Kinda looks more like a “can I sneak off a nose pick while nobody’s lookin’?” or “I’m so f***in bored I may s**t myself to see if anybody notices,” sorta thing.
Or maybe he’s just wondering “hoof arted?”
Or “Hmm…am I getting a zit on my chin there?”
Squee! Likey that one! LOL!
Definitely nothing Jack Handeyish here, that’s for sure.
Move along, folks. Nothing to see!
“It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.”
Jack Handey.
“Am I absolutely SURE that I turned off the iron?”
“They say, ‘Only her hairdresser knows for sure,’ but I’m thinking blue
isn’t a natural hair color…”
“… I’ll ask Bill if it all matches”
OMG LOL!
” Where now should I build the first “Re-Education camps” for the masses?”
You would have to be educated before the term ReEducated could be used on you.
Far more educated than you, I guarantee. I’m talking Reducation to the Liberal Koolaid drinking Obamatrons…
Now why pray tell would Obama want to “reducate” the Obamatrons?
U. R. Very Dumb.
To make people INTO Obamatrons I meant.
“Far more educated than you, I guarantee.”
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“To make people INTO Obamatrons I meant.”
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Things that make you go, hmmmmmmmm.
the koolaid has been spiked with bacardi!
Which makes it a significant improvement over plain Kool-Aid.
*looks at empty pitcher*
Uh, Mike? If you want us to drink your Kool-Aid, might I
suggest you make a little more next time?
(That’s going to hurt in the morning…)
*hands mike a glass of water and some ibuprofen*
Damn, damn, damn… I’m going to have to ask another foreign-devil question… what is it with Kool-Aid?
Oh… I should have read on further down. Teaches me for being absent so long…
Could be worse- I could be a low paid whiney teacher who spends her life on the internet insulting people and acting like a …..oh..wait a minute…
Comeback fail. Did you learn that one in the third grade? Why don’t you try your insults out on the playground first before you play with the adults.
PWNED!!!!!!!!
Sock…
Shoo …
…lace.
Insulting a teacher, who obviously has more sense than you is a GREAT way
to show how much more educated you are than the rest of us.
Obviously educated enough to realize that without those underpaid teachers, you
wouldnt be trying to brag to and insult a bunch of people on the internet
who obviously dont care for someone so emotionally stunted.
Obviously educated enough to realize that through your words you’ve epic failed
at 3 things: Being a decent person, making any type of lasting impression
other than being annoying troll, and lastly, being convincing.
No one here has even a notion that you’re educated. Not a one.
He hasn’t been the same since Ike left him…
okay that one got mountain dew up my nose…ow just ow
Sorry!
*huggles Max*
I’m wondering how you became “far more educated than me” without learning from low paid whiney teachers. It certainly isn’t our teachers faults that they aren’t paid well, specifically early in their careers. However, if you really were educated you would know that most teachers who have been teaching for 10+ years actually make pretty decent money. Of course they can’t compete with high paid whiney actors and athletes who contribute nothing of significance to society. Low paid whiney teachers might be teaching someone today who could change the world tomorrow.
Education (I believe) is the answer to all of America’s problems.
Insulting those who provide this service shows how truly ignorant you are. Um, not you Steve, the other guy.
Not to mention, insulting teachers causes young people to think twice about doing something that valuable as a career. Which is not good for
society as a whole.
*hugs VG*
*hugs Jane back*
Borking right Charro! *hugs*
Sifnuta! You know it Jane!!!
*hugs*
*huggles Steve*
The teachers I’m personally acquainted with work hard for notoriously low pay to educate people’s kids. What’s YOUR hotsy-totsy accomplishment in life?
*hugs Tessie*
Not some of the teachers I know- they s-ck!
That’s how i read it.
Perhaps by “reducate” he means make them red instead of blue?
Doubtful but you do remind me of Evil Pundit though. Rather amusing really, especially if you think I am a liberal.
Yeah.. definitely a conservative, this one.
Definitely not a conservative or moderate…. Nope- Liberal it is!
we were talking about you mike…
definitely a pissed of elephant you didn’t get what he wanted…
boohoo…
**who** not you…
.
that’s what i get for trying to write this while being on the phone…
What does Koolaid have to do with being Liberal?
It relates to some cult that committed suicide by drinking poisoned Koolaid. Not sure why that was then associated with US liberals, but it most definitely is.
He’s associating Heaven’s Gate with Liberals? Oh my. I thought being liberal meant that I was open minded to new ideas and tolerant of other people’s beliefs and cultures. I didn’t know that liberals had strict religious affiliations that we would try to legislate on the rest of the world…wait…that sounds a lot like conservatives! I’m so confused! My inferior middle class intellect cannot comprehend his superior logic.
You’re broad-brushing it, dear
I’ve known many open-minded people on the left side of the aisle, along with just as many narrow-minded liberals
I certainly am. I was trying to use the same broad brush on him that painted me into a corner with the Heaven’s Gate cult.
Of course I know my generalizations aren’t accurate, but that was my point.
*offers Froo peace brownies*
The kool-aid incedent was originally used at Jonestown in the 70’s…..How’s that for a publicly educated “Boo-Hooing Elephant”?
A new name, Mike?
Sock fail by the Mikester for sure there AC!
Wrongo, sock puppet master!
Yes, yes… you’re Professor Moriarty.
Typical ‘Master’ Criminal, never gets tired of his own voice…
You should speak! geez, don’t you ever get tired of being a troll ? Get off the internet and get a life, you monotonous twerp!
While ever it grieves folk like you… no…
Anti Fester…. Wow… just wow…
How someone so educated could be so… well…. bad at everything
he does is beyond me.
Now the real question: Why cant louts like him be bad at
breathing?
I have an inhaler, so there!
Proof that there is no god…
*takes brownie, gives hug*
I thought that poisoned Kool Aid was in Jonestown.
What, exactly, is KoolAid?
Wiki tells me that it is some sort of flavoured powder that is added to water, making the drink of the same name.
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At a guess, it is similar to, although clearly different from, cordial (which you might know as squash). (Link in name on this if I’m not clear on this one)
Powdered drink mix consisting mainly of colored sugar, most famous for Jim Jones and his cult’s mass suicide in Guyana in the ’70s. Wiki article linked.
And Jim Jones’ cult was called “Heaven’s Gate”, as in Steve’s post above.
I thought Heaven’s Gate was actually in the United States. Or was that Hale Bopp?
Both cults grew strong in California. “The
People’s Temple moved to Guyana, but the
“Heaven’s Gate” cult committed their mass
suicide in San Diego. They’re the ones who
thought they would be hitching a ride on a
comet.
That’s right. I remember laughing at them because they were on the news and being in AZ I was close to them.
Oops. ‘IIRC’ wasn’t correct. My bad!
No, “Heaven’s Gate” was a cult led by Marshall
Applewhite. Jim Jones’ cult was called “The
People’s Temple.”
[LINK] Wiki re “Heaven’s Gate”
No, Heaven’s Gate was another cult altogether. Jim Jones’ cult was the People’s Temple Agricultural Project, of all things…Sounds like some kinds of bizarre 4-H fringe group.
The group was called “The People’s Temple,”
and the commune was called the “People’s
Temple Agricultural Project.” They were
making startling progress in composting…
Ah, thanks for the correction! That actually makes more sense.
*realizes she used “makes sense” in reference to Jonestown*
*head asplodes*
Am I ancient or does anyone else remember “The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test”? Ubr’s comment about Baccardi made me think of Kesey, not Jones. If I knew how link on PK I’d refer to Wikipedia’s entry.
Vaguely, but not well enough to get the reference, I guess.
*insert obligatory nitpicky comment about it being Flavor-Aid, not Kool-Aid, here*
Very true! I always picture some poor guy in public relations at the KoolAid company who has spent a large part of his life saying “Nooo, it wasn’t even our product! Not Kool-Aid at all!”
It really was Kool-Aid brand mix. Unfortunately, it didn’t
cut the taste of the cyanide, as planned. Many of the
adult corpses were found to have been injected.
Many more were found shot, in a pattern surrounding the commune that suggested they were hunted down as they fled.
And this is why it’s called “Drink the KoolAid”- if you don’t blindly believe Obama’s speeches and lies, you are referred to as one who won’t drink the KoolAid. And if you don’t , you will be hunted down and killed as you flee.
Rather like the blind belief in anything… Nice to see Bizarro Fester gets the joke…
Holy crap! He’s angry aint he Fester?
I mean did he just seriously advocate hunting down and shooting
people for voting differently than him? Holy SH*T!
Look right above the comment, asshat!
Still being a sad, empty wannabe… ah well…
Also with the same, empty, retarded opinions too…
Still good to know I’m an annoyance to you though… I gives me such a warm feeling to know want me that badly…
Thank you.
I believe that it was actually the Flavor Aid brand that was used in Jonestown.
The phrase “drinking the Kool Aid” refers to embracing a cults beliefs.
Correction: not heaven’s gate, but the Jonestown cult. Please to click name.
Ah, right you are. Heaven’s gate mixed their poison with vodka.
The implication, as I understand it, is that those who “drink the Kool-Aid” are brainwashed, mindless followers, rather than adherents of a particular belief system. I’ve seen it directed against both/all sides of the political spectrum.
Correction: both sides of the aisle use it to describe partisans of the other side.
HEY! WE GOT A NEW WHINER! othing original though… just the same old crap. There must be blood getting in to oxycontin system… least he won’t be taking it per-anum, since his head up there…
MMMmMMmMmmmmm oxycontin
i prefer demerol… or just good old morphine patches…
Darvon… Diazepam… It’s all good.
*zzzzzzzzzzz*
Damn. And all I brought back from the UK was 8/500 co-codamol and 12/200 ibuprofen with codeine…I so fail at being a hardcore stoner.
Never had any of it. I took one Darvocette once and slept for
24 hours. So step out of the way, Bud: There’s a bigger
light-weight in town!
I’m with you on that. I’ve only had Demerol, and that was for surgery…and it turned me into ‘vomit girl’. So this light-weight will have to stick
with daiquiris (one per big evening, sigh)!
Mixing opioids and benzodiazepines is dangerous rho..
Oh she’s unconscious.
*looks through pill stash*
Hey look! Xanax! *nomnomnom*
LOL@ *nomnomnom*
You can keep your Xanax, buddy. I’d be doing the nom’ing on hydrocodone!
are you a heroin junkie?
That came out of left field… What are you getting at ubr?
I can tell you a heroin addict would need a WHOLE LOT of hydrocodone to get high, or even to get rid of the dope sick.
Heroin addicts would know this and go for the oxycontins.
sorry, was thinking of methadone…
While methadone is most commonly known for “heroin maintenance” it is a powerful opioid analgesic. It does get prescribed for the same reasons as other opioids, but many people see it as a tainted drug rather than something that serves a purpose.
Currently, America is shifting away from methadone maintenance to a drug called Suboxone. This has been used in Europe for years and the FDA is finally approving it for human use in the U.S.. People are excited about this drug for several reasons.
1. It can be prescribed as most other drugs, meaning you get a month supply from the pharmacy.
2. It contains naloxone, which is an opioid blocker. It’s what they give to people who are od’ing on opioids.
3. It does not allow other opioids to bind to the opioid receptors in your brain, so trying to get high while on suboxone does not work. Well it’s supposed to not let you, at any rate.
4. It has a “ceiling”, meaning you can’t take more than x amount of suboxone to get high. Like you can with vicodin or oxycontins.
Being a heroin addict is not something to be ashamed of, any more than being depressed or bi-polar. It is a medical condition and can require layers of “help” to proceed normally in life. Like with all other psychiatric conditions, there is no “cure” there is only maintenance which can include drugs, therapy, etc.
It’s also not something to be joked about or taken lightly.
Incidently, did you know that methadone and darvocet (darvon) are chemical cousins? Almost exactly the same in structure.
…a little White Widow will do the trick nicely.
Demerol made me vomit. But it also made me hallucinate, so I guess it’s all good.
Passes charro the peace pipe… Here, this will cure that nausea, guaranteed!
If that peace pipe is loaded with Mary Jane, it will also make me vomit. Sadly.
really? that’s absolutely terrible…
Mary Jane worked for my aunt’s chemo nausea, though. And gave the munchies–all good!
I’m the only person I know who pukes when poking smot.
Gave my brother an asthma attack. But then it is a WEED.
Well technically its a flower…. a strange… hairy flower.
How’s that butthurt sandwich treatin’ ya? Too much mustard, not enough dignity?
The look on his face is more along the lines of “I’m thinking cream upholstery with tangerine accent pillows” Pensive yes, not overtly deep however… not enough scowl for a deep thought.
***boring***
.
can we have some more interesting LOLs?
Seconds.
Damn. You beat me to the same comment by 2 minutes.
Uhm. Six. Six minutes.
And it’s “Frist”, don’tcha know.
No, (Mr., Miss, Mrs. Ms.) ‘Literal’, look down. Look at 2 Main posts under this one.
You’ll see my post was 2 minutes after dissimilitude’s post.
you mean my post?
D’oh! Yup, I mean YOUR post ubr!
Good thing there was nothing at stake if I messed up, ’cause I did, twice.
HEH!
FAIL FOR MEE!! OH NOES
LOL!!!
Yup, and for me too…
ah well, ’tis life
Frist was so first-term-Bush. There hasn’t been need to bring him up in a lol for ages!
Nah- now that he’s almost President, it’s his turn to be sh*tted on.
Or shat upon. Whichever, it’s inevitable.
I bet they didn’t tell him that part of the job at orientation…
Best picture let. I laughed so hard.
boring…
How did this make the home page? I’m not saying it’s not true, but there are some really creative captions waiting in the wings. How do some of these really boring ones make it so quickly?
yeah… i have three really nice ones sitting there… waiting…
You’re right- almost all of them are funnier.
Yr capshuns, they has win.
I favorited your Silence! one–LOVED it!!
Looks more like he’s thinking ” Can’t I find ANYONE in the Democrat party to nominate for a position who won’t cause a scandal over unpaid taxes, illegal nannies or outright criminal activities?”
Could be, you never know.
On the other hand, it looks like the Republicans always look for those with the most extensive criminal experience in order to give them the most influential positions.
Which behavior would you rather see in the POTUS?
Haven’t listened to the news today, have you?
My point was that at least Obama is attempting to find people above reproach, where the Republican party seems to reward illicit behavior, as long as they’re not caught. As soon as they’re caught, they’re thrown under the bus, but that’s right-wing politics for you.
So again, which would you rather have in office, someone who actively tries to find the best, and most honest people for a position, or someone who rewards and enables corruption?
Personally, I don’t think there is any such thing as an honest politician who has been in office more than one year, but at least Obama is trying.
“As soon as they’re caught, they’re thrown under the bus,”
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Or whine about how they’re “victims”.
Very true. I am so sick and tired of the right-wing, political and religious, playing the part of ‘victim’.
I am equally sick and tired of the left-wing falling for it every frickin’ time!.
‘Oh my god, you’re a victim? How can we slit our own wrists in order to help you feel less like a victim?’
Like Bill O’Reilly and the few thousand oxycotin tabs and the collection of forged prescriptions…
And let’s not forget stand-up comedian Rush Limbaugh.
Wait, wasn’t he the oxy and BillO the Clown something else? I can’t keep track anymore.
Bill was Oxy AND he had Viagra in someone else’s name… which was in violation of his probation, and should have had his ass thrown in jail, but for some reason didn’t…
And it was all the fault of that liberal atmosphere he had to breathe during the Clinton era. And to add insult to injury, he had to endure the liberal rehab. Poor, poor baby.
Finally! The intertoobz has been nomming my comments this morning. I been sittin’ here talkin’ to meself. If folks find numerous doubles, it’s all becuse the interwebs like me not
Oh and no, I haven’t seen the news yet today, but have you been watching the news for the last 6 years? Please, Republican, Corruption is thy middle-name.
Use your real name Seth.
Sorry, I don’t know Seth, but if you think I’m him, I’m sure he and I would get along well.
Seriously, if he has a pictures page here, would you please point me to it? I’d love to see who your mistaking me for.
It’s a huge compliment. If Seth has a page, I’m not aware of
it. Maybe someone else will know.
After reading some of Seth’s posts, I thought so too. Then I considered the source and realized that this Beth person hasn’t had an original idea
since, well, since her pastor shoved them into her head.
She seems to simply spew forth that which she thinks will insult the other person.
All well and good since I’m not trying to emulate anyone up here anyway.
Damn Damn Damn! I can’t believe I posted “your” instead of “you’re”!
I hate when people do that. Now I’m going to have to be punished.
Preferred method?!
Here’s your reward: I made a similar mistake yesterday (left “-ed” off the end of a verb that I meant to be in the past tense). Seeing your mistake is comforting to me.
Thanks Paul.
Simple mistakes don’t bother me too much.
What bothers me, is either that education in the US has taken a dramatic turn for the dismal in the last two generations, or, the advent of the internet has simply given us all a better glimpse into the minds and hearts of the truly stupid and/or ignorant. I suspect it’s a bit of both. What bothered me about my post is that I made one of the most common mistakes made by the stupid and/or ignorant, and that takes away my right of righteous-indignation toward these people, unless they are consistent repeat offenders. I like being righteously indignant! (occasionally)
Haven’t listened to the news the last twenty-nine years, have you?
huh? i don’t understand the point you’re trying to make… republicans did what?
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and btw, do you really want the sec tres to not be able to fill out his taxes properly?
That would be helpful to the Democrats though….
If they were any good at math, they wouldn’t be Democrats.
True.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. yes. i like. maths. *sigh*
Republican Math – Banks, screwing each other over, driving the world economy into the ground at speed. So, we pay them for the excellent job…
Yes, that balances…
Retardedness, you has it…
Wait, UF, I thought you were unaffiliated.
How about a little balance to that thought? I’m intrigued regarding your perception of of Democrat Math.
Care to elucidate?
Unc is an equal opportunity castigator, indeed.
Like H*ll he is- he’s a Liberal sock puppet all the way! Why are you Libs so afraid to admit what you are ?
No you reatrd, I’m not a liberal… But, just sine you have the attention span of a gnat, accompained by a taste for mind altering drugs and opioid painkillers…
I realy don’t care what filthy, corrupt, foetid pile of pigs entrails you elect, be it from Ru-Paul to Denny the Hose Kuch (although I can more happly look at Denny’s wife than I can the other first ladies prospective)My interest is trying to keep the worst zombies real… people like you… who really can only spout their party election rhetoric like it meant something (hint: didn’t then, don’t now, you lost. Suck it up and quit whining like a little kid)
Same as I regard people,and there are some, who think that the sun shines out of the arse of lanky black guy with big ears (and I don’t mean Will Smith, y’all) as too dangerous to be allowed to have sharps or live unattended.
Now, maybe Obama IS the greatest thing since the invention of the cordless power drill. He’s probably not… not more than the bald cripple and the wilderness retard were going to change the world for the better (like getting American troops out fo most ofd it and curtailing the practice of US business being warfare carried forward by other means)
So, you stupid, stinking, idle, neo-facist bag of pus and bile… stick that up are arse when next you’re abusing oxycontin…
Oh, and I’d refrain from tellg you better their politics… it just annoys them, troll boy
Democrat Maths – Equally corrupt and equally stupid. However, to claim high ground on the ‘mathematics’ of the Republicans is simply loud, stupid and hypocritical, especially in view odf the Emperor’s new outfit of ‘banking bail out’… i
So, Literal, up your sorry arse with that one…
if i remember correctly it was the democrats in the senate and house who actually hold the purse strings on the so called ‘banking bail out’… so… your point was what again?
I seem to remeber the president driving that one and everyone else buying…
My point is, you’re a retard, rather like your elected officials…
the point is over there fest…
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you missed it.
No, I didn’t miss your skull shape, Schlitzie…
ubr, what viable option was there, to your mind?
That came out weird. I meant, in your opinion,
what would have been a viable alternative to
the bail-out?
*watches tumbleweeds rot*
I am NOT a dem, but I fail to see the relevance of that statement.
Republicans make lots of noise about how cautious they are with other peoples’ money, but every Republican regime since Reagan has reamed the budget.
I now believe that is their intent; that the surest way to “fight big government” is to bankrupt the nation, preferably with war so that it can be cloaked in patriotism.
TBH, Govt expands too… the Republicans don’t and never have ‘fought big govt’
Rule of thumb – no government is going to approve it’s own reduction of spread and power.
Yes, but the purposes are different.
Democrats generally believe they can accomplish some social good by using government as a tool (often a very large hammer). You can debate all you like about methods and about whether the goals they pursue are more appropriately pursued individually or collectively, but broadly speaking the intent is to use government to improve people’s lives.
Republicans’ mistrust of government, OTOH, is so all-encompassing that they go out of their way to undermine even what are generally considered legitimate government pursuits. Simultaneously dismantling regulation and stunting competition for instance, choking off funding for essential services, and placing incompetent people in key positions erode the functionality of government, which then allows them to point and tell us how horrible a job the government does at everything it tries, so of course we shouldn’t trust it. Never mind that they never wanted the government to succeed in the first place and set it up to fail, the failure is proof that we cannot hope for it to succeed.
Win!
Suddenly “You’re doing a good job, Brownie!” makes scary sense…
on the other hand, the government was set up to limit it’s own federal power – hence the 10th amendment. The states/colonies were given power to govern themselves as they see fit and thereby the federal government should only be there to keep the general peace.
Democrats feel as though the federal government should control our individual lives, hence Obama’s promise to ‘think daily of those lower middle class Americans’ for whom he promises to pass legislation. They tend to forget that the best way to govern is to keep at a distance and correct when necessary – not make everyone into drones to stay in line (oh sorry – you said “social good” as if everyone thinks the same things are important).
Repubs think the only way to keep us from having an all-encompasing federal government is to make sure the federal government fails to hold water. That way, it can remain a constant across the nation without affecting the rights and privileges of state governments. Since when do the laws is Maine affect people the same way in Michigan?
Essential services, as you put it, vary from state to state, thereby making the federal government impotent in the matter unless the feds take over individual needs of state. In that case, why would we need state government?
Legitimate government pursuits as you say generally have many ways to look at them, and because something may seem legit for one person, it may be extraneous/unnecessary for another. Definition and interpretation is in the eye of the observer, and although you may think that gay marriage is in dire need of legislation, I may think it is superfluous and petty and should not bog down the government.
Dems do not want government to improve lives – since each life is different, the more laws you pass to ‘improve lives’ will very well hinder others, in which case the legislation is a failure. But Dems want that ‘big hammer’ to smash every square peg into the round hole…not feasible. And though they may think they have the best intentions…well we all know about the Road to Hell…
Actually, the Reps wrapping themselves in ‘Pro-Life’, Hard ball Law enforcement etc, are more socially interventionist against the individual than the Democrats
First of all, who started it? Roe-v-Wade is the public explosion of ‘keep your laws off my body.’ The deal Repubs have (well, more like conservatives since not all repubs are pro-life) is in the original constitution whereas every human is giving the rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So because each side is using the argument “when does life begin?”…who exactly is the unsinful ones who threw the first stone? who cares? But unfortunately each side will not back down until something happens. Sad reality of stubborn human nature, but still.
The fact is, one side is lobbying for the big human, the other is lobbying for the little one on its behalf. They are both human, but one side is more selfish than the other. You know, since the small one is relatively easily ignored. Until it is gone…but then it is too late. I don’t want to get into that discussion since there is one going on already farther down. And it might hurt people to read.
“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness” are from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. It’s a fine document, very moving, but it has no legal standing.
Constitutional knowledge win…
THAT deserves at least a whole internet.
I was thinking 2 internets, but we can haggle.
I love the notion that Chickie argues states’
rights to govern and people’s rights to liberty,
then puts down California’s Prop 8, which
contained both of her jealously guarded
elements…Weird, if not altogether wacky.
“Republicans’ mistrust of government, OTOH, is so all-encompassing that they go out of their way to undermine even what are generally considered legitimate government pursuits. … Never mind that they never wanted the government to succeed in the first place and set it up to fail, the failure is proof that we cannot hope for it to succeed.”
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A friend of mine compared this to letting people who don’t believe in cars build cars.
Nicely said, sir.
Were the media even remotely liberal, we’d have heard this one already.
It is shocking to me that the punditry are still going with the conceit that the Bush administration was trying to make government work. Except for the military and intelligence (which it turned against its own people), it has manifestly been trying to keep government from working, in a manner that it is impossible to argue credibly was not deliberate.
“the surest way to “fight big government” is to bankrupt the nation, preferably with war so that it can be cloaked in patriotism.”
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And then say, “See? Big government doesn’t work”. It’s a well-known strategy informally known as “starve the beast” (see link). It would be political suicide to close down, for example, FEMA, but to defund it so that it collapses on its own is much safer.
Exactly, and that is why chickiepickle’s argument falls flat. If the government functions under examination weren’t important, it wouldn’t be political suicide to close them down, now would it?
I’m still boggling over her comment that Roe v. Wade is interventionist against the individual.
*boggles*
The point I was trying to make?
Neocons – evil (Ok, that wasn’t in the original point, but I’ll add it here)
Republicans – corrupt
Democrats – less evil, less corrupt; try to be ‘fair’ to everyone to the point where nothing gets done.
As for the tax comment, I’d rather see the tax laws rewritten and simplified to the point where it’s harder to make a mistake than it is to get it right. Everyone talks about it, but no one does anything about it.
I’m with you on the tax simplification.
The labels are broad-brush fails. You seem more intelligent than this,
somehow.
First rhorho, thank you for the compliment.
Second, of course you are correct. That brush is wide enough to paint a barn wall with one swipe. This is the internet, and the hyperbole was intentional. I do however believe that the foundation of the statements is accurate. Every stereotype has a basis in reality. Inaccurately applying that to everyone in the referenced group is what makes it a stereotype.
Then we’re agreed. So, party labels aside, where do you find
yourself on the political descriptive spectrum?
For myself, I go with “Left-Wing Nut-Job,” also a barn-painter,
but fine tuning happens enough in the thick of battle.
‘Nut-job’ works for me for a political affiliation. 30 years ago I was a Republican, believed in sky-ghosts and voted for RR the first time. During his first term I realized I had a brain just aching to be used, so that’s what I’ve tried to do ever since; I’m not sure if I’ve always been successful. I’ve been a registered Dem since ‘84(or thereabouts), but have voted Republican when that party had the better person for the job in question.
If the Republican party were still the party of 50 years ago, if they had not let themselves be taken over by the vacuous, world-domination seeking religious reich in this country, I might actually be a Republican today. The old Republican party was nothing like they are today. They actually believed in ethics instead of pretending to. They believed in smaller government instead of pretending to. They believed in not attempting to legislate personal behavior. They were financially conservative and socially liberal (in the sense that they understood that government is not and can not be your moral compass).
I am still a Dem because they are less evil; less-effective, but less evil.
Speaking of using a fine brush, have you seen this?
youtube. com/ watch?v=cdGJxSDgWlo
(kill the spaces in the url to get it to work.)
Cool! I’m so glad that guy found a way to express
himself artistically, but I hate how frustrating his work
is. His tale of breathing in Alice made me laugh. Do
you think snorting her forced him on a trip through
the looking glass? Thanks for that!
Oh, BTW, if you want to include a link in with your post,
you can paste it, as is, into the field marked “URI.”
The field is just above the larger field where you type
your comment. Then, your name will be blue. People
need only click your name for the link. you can add
links in the comment area, too, but sometimes doing so
causes a delay in the appearance of your post on the
thread. I added your link under my name for demon-
stration.
I suppose if his medium of choice was a rock of crack, then yes, he may have gone through the looking glass.
Thanks for the tip on the linking. I figured that out later and have been using it to link to my page here, but I’ve also since seen others using it in the way you described, so I’ll keep that in mind for future posts.
Thanks!
I didn’t mean to ignore all that you posted about
your political history. I think you’ll be in good
company (save a few trolls) here. You have the
benefit of insight from different angles, so it’s
great to have you aboard!
Democrats – Less evil?
They’re politicians, dammit! They’d roofie their mother and sell her to coked-up frat boys if they thought they’d get one more minute in power. Same as anyone else who goes for elected office.
so we should go back to a divine monarchy
i hear lots of complaining about how everyone and everything is corrupt and the system runs poorly, but still not even a single iota of thought towards a solution…
No, we don’t but you’re an idiot and probably can’t find your own arse with both hands without help…
And I’m not in this to solve problems… if I wanted to solve problems I’d not be posting on a satire site, now would I? Hmm? Try wrrappin gyour tiny, reptile, brain around that one…
my point exactly.
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when someone disagrees with you or forces you to take a stand you just attempt to insult them. the good thing is that your insults are barb less and strikingly similar to the kinds of things you hear from 8 year olds.
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so… go on being so intelligent that you cannot hold a conversation with anyone.
Then enjoy the warm, wet, feeling of being vindicated in your own mind.
I still haven’t seen anything form you that’s worht taking seriously… unless it’s current firearms knowledge… You’ve impressed me with that…
as to the rest; its the usual, dim, parochial, expansionist, cookie-cutter nonsense I’ve spent most of my professional life listing to from your big island.
you’re not actually worth conversing with… only mocking.
Don’t expect one. It’s easier to complain and say they are all corrupt than to address the paradox that we put them into power so we can have a scapegoat for our own failings. We can’t have a leader without politics because that is essentially what happens with power, it becomes political. We live in a world of gray and expect black and white.
But yea, I am just babbling now. I need to nom more caffeine.
i figured as much from fester after reading his other posts, but i wanted to see what kind of reaction i could get out of him… and the reaction i got was pretty much what i expected. lots of talk about how everyone else is stupid…
That would be you then…
fester, every comment you make further consolidates my opinion of your intellectual and emotional development… to put it in one word… “stunted”
Why thank you…
You have a fan!
Almost a stalker… he just wants me carnally…
Somebody doesn’t?
i know you are but what am i?
I think you’re special
The paradox is easily addressed – you vote for the one whose lies you like best.
However, that doesn’t make them any more trust worthy or less likely to void their bowels on you from a great height. If someone tells me that
Obama’s pee has a lemony freshness and he makes St Francis look like a footpad, I’ll tell them exactly what I think… same with the ones who seem to think that the Republicans walk on water…
You got a problem with that Wurm?
here i’ll agree with you… all politicians around the globe are paid to tell you one thing to your face and do another behind your back… if we wanted honest people to run our governments we would set up a system that actually rewarded honesty instead of deceit…
Mostly just headdesking at our We are our Problem scenario.
I don’t begrudge a politician just because. We the people supposed asked him to fill the office and he does the best he can. If his best sucks, sure, hate him. Hating him on principle of filling a position we asked him to fill… Just gives me a headache.
I feel the same way about soldiers. We send them to hell and then fuss if something horrible happens. I get mad if there is a screw up but I don’t blame them just because they are soldiers.
But yea, I am babbling us in a circle.
Respect is earned…
“I don’t begrudge a politician just because. We the people supposed asked him to fill the office and he does the best he can. If his best sucks, sure, hate him. Hating him on principle of filling a position we asked him to fill… Just gives me a headache.”
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Agree in general, but…
As others have pointed out, the qualities that make a person fit to govern and the qualities that make a person likely to win a political office are becoming increasingly mutually exclusive.
The generally correct Fester wrote “Same as anyone else who goes for elected office.”.
That’s not true. I give you for one shining example the best of all Senators, Wisconsin’s Russ Feingold. He’s not alone, though there aren’t many of them.
It IS possible to have responsible and moral representation. It’s just very difficult. The sex-and-race obsessed Democrats and American Taliban Republicans do hold most of the cards.
I love Russ Feingold! I was so hoping that he was going to run for POTUS. There is a consensus amongst some of my Jewish friends that he couldn’t have been elected to office though for the simple fact that he’s not any of the 31 flavors of christian. What a sad f’ing country we’ve become in so many ways.
One swallow doens’t make a summer…
No, but it is a nice denouement to a BJ.
There’s always one…
and never a bukkake fan…
He hired someone to do his taxes for him. Y’know, free market and all that. The tax preparer signed a statement saying our nominee didn’t need to pay self-employment taxes. When it was pointed out the preparer was wrong, the late taxes were paid. All good, no?
Didn’t Bush use that excuse for invading Iraq? And look how much leniency you gave him for THAT!
Your comment makes no sense. If Bush had removed the troops and paid a lot of money to the Iraqis after he found the lack of WMD, you might be in the ball park, however.
WIN!!
LOSE!!
Mike=Arsewipe!
paying back taxes = lives lost in war?
Where is this planet you’re from again?
The Planet ‘Limited Thyroid Function’
Can we go there and bomb it? Pretty please!!?
I have the very thing – Mass Drivers [link]
We must leave immediately!
the point beth was trying to make… (but not effectively) is that if you made lots of self-employed income and someone told you that you owed no taxes would you believe them? if someone told you that iraq had wmds but no proof, except for the when he gassed the kurds, would you believe them?
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either way, they both were stupid for taking such important things on faith alone.
You missed out that the stuff they gassed the Kurds with was sold to them by the US (more of the US making the world a better place, I presume), so, yes, they knew exactly how many WMD they had (around the time of the ’super gun’ and the dead Canadian)… but that was over a decade before the current adventure, which was based on known falsified information and and undergraduate thesis someone found on the internet…
just to clarify, the line about the gas and kurds was to dispel anyone who would reply stating that “THEY HAD WMDS THEY USED THEM AGAINST THE KURDS!”
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and no. i don’t trust anyone that much with money or lives. and i do check my own accounting… and c’mon… if you made $150k in a year and your accountant told you that you didn’t owe any taxes would you believe him? you might be unfamiliar with US self-employed taxation, but you have to file and pay your 1099 taxes quarterly, it is not automatically deducted from your paycheck like it is with wage-earners…
The fact that Iraq HAD WMDs is largely down to the idea (myth) of a better world through American interventionism.
As track record of picking the ‘Good’ guys like the US, I think I’d take up oil colours… or macramé.
fest, arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall…
the wall can only see it’s own perspective
the difference between you and the wall is that the wall has better comebacks.
I think I’ve known fence posts who make better points than you, so were even again.
lol
And you’re more likely to believe an accountant than you are a spook…
Or do you send your accounts out for a second opinion every time…
But we want this guy to run the damn Treasury department? Hmmm.
since when did mathematical ability have anything to do with the ability to run the treasury?
I’ve said for years (since Thatcher’s time to be exact) if you tried to run a business like they run a country, you’d be on the street before year end…
I’m agreeing with you! Dammit!!!! *sulks off to the grocery*
TBH, not being able to do math or understand tax laws isn’t a problem for working in the government. But, if you went to church, would you want the preacher who was screwing young boys to tell you how to get to heaven, or the one who actually lives what he preaches? You want the guy to actually get the concept before you put him in charge.
You two just need to have sex already.
Sheesh
You’d think that… doesn’t work that way…
“Didn’t Bush use that excuse for invading Iraq?”
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Analogy fail. When you have your taxes done by a professional, you take their advice. b*sh’s advisors told him ahead of time that there was no credible evidence of WMDs in Iraq, no connection between Iraq and 9/11, no intelligence to support the war (pun not intended), and insufficient resources to conduct a successful invasion/occupation. He basically told them to f*ck off, that he was going to do what he felt like, and to distort or cherry-pick the evidence and then lie about it on national television.
Exactly! Bush told the CIA what he wanted to see on his desk
from them. That would be like me telling my accountant how
much tax money I intended to pay, then forcing him to create
a tax return ending with the figure I told him in advance.
Er, perhaps you’re choosing to ignore the fact that Bush spent the end of 2002 and the beginning of 2003 lying over and over again, both personally and through numerous surrogates speaking for the administration, in support of his efforts to wage war against Iraq.
You can try to rewrite history and pretend that Bush was honestly mislead, but the fact of the matter is that anyone – ANYONE – could easily tell during those months that Bush was lying for the purpose of justifying his war intentions.
You can pretend that you believed him, but unless you’re completely dead to the world around you, you couldn’t miss the fact that he was lying. Retroactively pretending that we didn’t know that isn’t going to work, because I am going to remind you: we all knew at the time that he was lying, and of course we turned out to be right.
Deal with it.
As I’ve said before, he’s choosing from a bunch of politicians, worse; American Politicans.
If he eliminated everyone who had a skeleton in their closet of some sort, he’d be on his own.
yes, british politicians are much better at… um… doing something… not really sure what it is though… but they sure do look spiffy in their wigs and capes…
UK politcos are cheaper and have less chance of damaging the rest of the world.
wow. you’re really pining away for the return of the british empire… remember, they f—-ed up a lot of the world in the last couple centuries…
Just the opposite, I think. The Brits have learned their lesson and given up their dreams of empire, thus they have less of a chance of damaging the rest of the world than we do.
the point your making is that it’s better to be powerless and watch the world burn?
Ah, the white man’s burden comes to the fore again from our little Teddy Roosevelt wannabe there
and as an addendum, American Interventionism has managed to ignite more fires than it’s put out… but those who refuse to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them…
I still think it’s some sort of lingering inadequacy for not being the ones to carpet bomb Dresden…
I still have nightmares…
That and they not only realized that their Social Security system was flawed, but they DID SOMETHING about it!
We know ours is broken, but we continue to drive it down the street praying that the wheels don’t fall off!
I’ll fix it for you tomorrow: remove the income cap on Social Security taxes. Alternately, if that’s too radical for you, then only institute it on income over, say, a million dollars a year. Either way, the wealthy pay their fair share and SS is fixed for another generation.
If you’re a politician and you propose that, you’re targeted for having proposed a tax hike, which is apparently one of two unforgivable sins that politicians can commit (the other is making racist or sexist comments). You will find that you are no longer in office after the next election (and quite possibly earlier, in light of the wave of recall elections).
Exercise for the reader: identify national-level politicians in the U.S. who have gone public with proposals to remove the income cap on Social Security. You’ll be looking at a list of politicians who have put their nation ahead of their own self interest. I suspect it’ll be a short list, and I bet I’d be surprised at some of the names on it.
you think he doesn’t have a skeleton in his closet? Let’s wait and see…:) Something will come up from some time in his life that will shed light. And when it does….BAM he’s only human! OMG he’s not a messiah? Oh. Well. Ok. Whatever.
“BAM he’s only human! OMG he’s not a messiah?”
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Debunked repeatedly in previous threads. Try harder.
He’s just becoem president asn has been involved in Illinois politics… he has a WWI graveyard’s worth of bodies. However, unless he’s stupid, he’s not goingn to fire himself for it, is he? God’s stripes and wounds, but we seem to have a new influx of low calibre idiots and loudmouthed morons, completely devoid of wither wit or originality.
Have you considered being euthanised? Medical science needs to know how you live in something that small and still function highly enough to use the internet
You know, you need to learn some manners. I don’t plan to teach you -you appear to be arrogant and impotent, and probably short. at least i know how to type and hit the keys properly…
sometimes short, concise answers are less incriminating toward a poster than long-winded, offensive ones. Mine was meant to be taken with humor.
Do you really get your rocks off by posting unnecessary vile retorts? Do i need to type long words (verisimilitude….for instance) for you to bother your superior, weary eyes to read my post? Or do I just need to ask you to please go shut your head in a car door repeatedly until you can behave nice around the neighbors?
Mmmm, luv, you may want to read and then read some more. Unc has a concise way about him, and a fine disregard for sides. As for the rest of your noise, is that all you got for ammo??
*hands Unc a pack of matches*
You have the gascan?
*runs for the bunker pulling helmet low over eyes*
Valid comment about the typing. Unreserved apologies.
As to the content. Get on some big girl panties!
Not good thoughts. . . not thoughts that aren’t based in socialism. . . not thoughts about American exceptionalism. . . not thoughts about helping the country if it damages his poll ratings. . . but thoughts.
Dirty thoughts.
With a penis.
In bed.
with a wife as good looking as his, i would not begrudge him that
I recommend you research socialism, and then compare them to all of Obama’s promises. Then compare them to the policies of conservatives in Scandinavia if you have the time.
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Notice how Obama is extremely far from socialism? Its true!
Yeah…right…. (maintains eye contact with crazy person while backing up)
yes… those who don’t understand others call them crazy…
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mike, you wouldn’t by chance be from somewhere in the midwest? and your occupation wouldn’t be plumbing, would it?
I was hoping it didn’t include sharps or access to children… and I’d favour he’s something in the church…
Which implies access to children, though.
I think that’s the only reason a lot join the church… the gentle creak of childish pelvis while you tell them how much Jesus loves them…
… with a penis… Dammit…
I need better material.
I’ve been saying that for a while…
Did you read my polemic?
Used to be an Alter boy , did you?
(listens to the creaks of Obama’s daughter’s pelvis as Daddy tells them how he’s gonna do the same to the country)
Shame you’re so unoriginal… I’ve done the child abuse jokes to death…
Something ‘new’?
Ah, a Roman Catholic who knows the drill…[link,
btw it's a puppet... no child was harmed... ] or rather who ha can drill and get away with it… no, never much of a one for Churches… but thanks for your interest, and the Really very flattering name… just think… I’ve upset a retard so much he feels the need to try and ape me… bless him…
The guy in your linked pic is a pervert, and not because of the kid.
Jesus Hussein Christ, drink real beer not that watered down piss.
I thought it was a fine satire of the Church of Rome… and a lot of other churches I could name too…
Yes, but *Busch Light?* That’s goat piss!
*twitches*
Satire? More like an homage.
But it’s just like you to ignore the more controversial aspect of the picture.Have you no shame man!
Do you really want to send the message that Busch Light is an acceptable lifestyle?
Did Jesus turn water into Busch Light??? NO!! Of course not!
Read your Bible and Repent!!!
Ew. Yeh.
*shudders in horror*
Of course not, you need to have a license for that.
didn’t stop J McC’s pal…
Actually, he was fired later. If Wiki is to be believed, he is off in Iraq with a correspondant’s job…
I would hope it was clearing mine fields….
I could just see him, being sent in wearing weighted clown shoes…
That is the nicest thing you have ever said to cheer up my day! With that chuckle I am heading home. Later all.
Isreal actually
I still hope it’s clearing mine fields.
A better job occurred to me: Mike the Plumber doing Live Shipping reports off the Somali coast…
JOE – His name is Joe you senile old fool Fester!!!!
(sorry I irritated me there!)
Quit picking on him, or I’ll beat you to a bloody pulp!
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…oops. Never mind.
Israel, ekshually. So far, all his reporting is “There shouldn’t be any war correspondents! All you do is report American troop positions and tell everyone bad things happen! When you report on massacres, you get half the information wrong… usually…” I kid you not.
No, mike, you’re just immensely mentally dull… and unfortunately proud of it.
You can dish it out but can’t take it ? You wouldn’t be from Minnesota and be a failed comedian would you?
Feel free to give it your best shot you damned colonial…
I think she thinks that was the insult… I believe you are dealing with an unarmed verbal combatant.
*I think she believes
There, that sounds better… Stupid lack of edit button.
“unarmed verbal combatant”
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*takes notes on DWN’s great line and wonder when i’ll be able to come up with something as good…*
I write a lot of sh*t but according to Fester, it has a nice shine.
Some of it glitters like diamonds…
Nicest thing said to me in a while by anybody on this site…
He is lying, of course. But, still nice.
I’m pleased you can read DWN’s mind… I bet he’s thrilled too.
Lying? No I am sitting, thanks. Though if I read that right, he is saying you were lying there, Uncle Fester…
So, he can read MY mind? If there’s a God then may he help him… on bad days I don’t like living in here with me…
Oh, but it’s fun in here. Look what I found
just now…
*points to old chest filled with Vaudevillian
costumes*
Ooh! *holds a beribboned gown up* I like!
If it is any consolation Fester, I pretty much loathe living in my brain most of the time.
Be careful… some of those things are cursed…
and I fifgured you for a fellow sufferer,Wurm… we have less a sense of humour and more some form of mental illness
@Kuro: What Fester means is that he’s put itching powder in some of them. Just be aware.
No, I mean blood dripping, ‘GET OUTTTTT!’, Preacher Kane yelling in the rain sort of curses…
The itching powder is on the toilet seats…
Heh, true. I would prefer shouting myself. My brain just likes to give me mild daymares of how I could die at any instant or lose my family or any number of disturbing visuals. Makes taking out the trash at night or riding home interesting…
@DWN: This sounds familiar — you mean like when you’re stuck in traffic on the interstate because of a wreck you’re running through the list of everyone you care about and trying to figure out if there’s any reason they’d be driving there because you’re sure when you get up to where the wreck is, it’s going to be somebody you love? That happens to me. (Of course it’s possible that’s not the kind of thing you’re talking about at all…)
Or:
My Brain: What if you floored it and drove off the bridge?
Me: But I don’t wanna!
My Brain: Yeah, but what if you had the urge to do it and couldn’t control yourself?
Me: But I don’t!
My Brain: Yeah, but what if you did?
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I’ve never had any particular urge to drive off a bridge, so I figure stuff like this is just more melodramatic than my *actual* anxieties like, “did I pay the electric bill or just think I did?”
@Tessie: Or one of my favorites, since I have a thing about heights anyway: Say I’m in a hotel room on a higher floor with a balcony and I go out there. I actually can’t go over to the edge, not because I think I’ll fall, but because I’m afraid
I’ll have a sudden irresistible impulse to jump. Not because I’m feeling depressed or suicidal or anything, either, I can be in a perfectly good mood!
I like this one: “I will not fight a battle of wits with an unarmed man”-Winston Churchill
Better a witty fool than a foolish twit.
DWN,
you’re almost certainly correct… I’m still waiting for her to start…
I am imagining the scene from Lake Placid where Oliver Platt gets punched and then whines that you’re supposed to say “Go” in a fight…
If that was her starting, she fights like a girl…
having said that, my mother in a battle of wits usually ends up
in a figurative Predator ‘Waving the skull and spinal column of her enemy aloft’ deal…
Now I want to meet her…
she looks like everyone’s favourite grandma/great aunt. Unfortunately, people assume since she’s elderly, she’s slow… her current Nintendo DS Brain Training age is 23… chronological age 81. Beat cancer two years ago, and is getting over heart problems from last year…
Did raising you toughen her up, or was it the
other way round?
I think the Predator waving a spinal column statement answers your question as to whom is the scarier beast…
… Ugh. WHO is the scarier beast. Not whom. Stupid fingers.
She does claim
1) she created a monster
2) that I’ve corrupted her…
but only to me… to people who aren’t family, she’d die under torture betfre saying I was anything other than ‘lovely’
She’s my mother… of course she scares me…
I thought to say something like In bed or With a penis but I won’t mock your terror.
Mothers are awesome with the “scare.”
they’ve known us a long time… they know the darkest secrets….
One of my friends told me that a friend of hers had her children convinced that when they lied, a red light that only parents could see would shine out of their eyes. Up until the kids turned about 8 or so, they would all look away when they lied so that their mother wouldn’t see the ‘red light’ in their eyes.
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The oldest boy came home from school his first day disappointed that his teacher could ’see the red light too’.
LMAO!!
That WAS her best shot.
Should someone wake her up and tell her?
might be best to let her sleep it off. she’s probably exhausted…
She woke up… but it didn’t last long…
I *told* her to stay away from those orange lichens!
I wish *I* could fail like that. Thirty years of work and tens of millions in income? Yeah, that’s a level of failure I could get into!
By European standards, Obama is most certainly right wing.
Pretty much… although that’s in a more ‘main land Europe’ sense than a UK sense.
Obama is on the right of the UK spectrum these days, but not insanely so…
It would be different if you showed even an ounce of effort to check up on his claims, provide your own sources, etc.
But you don’t. Your opinion becomes irrelevant because of it which, considering how bafflingly ignorant you are on every subject of which you speak, may not be the worst thing.
Piman is pretty accurate… you got a problem, prove the man wrong or stick the rhetoric where the sun don’t shine…
Actually, I was also responding to Mike. Not Piman.
Sorry old bean!
Not that I disagree with any of your statements, but… Research? Compare? Rational thought? This is roid you’re responding to. Not gonna happen.
Let’s put it this way: Maybe wealth redistribution and high progressive taxes and crippling economic regulations and government spending both to stimulate the economy and for the people’s “own good” isn’t socialism. And maybe Obama isn’t a socialist. But whatever those policies add up to, he’s it.
You are almost entirely correct. Correct enough that I won’t bother correcting you where you are wrong.
THe fact he’s stating “Obama’s stated policies are the stated policies of Obama” really makes him hard to disagree with… except are those Obama’s stated policies?
“Let’s put it this way: Maybe wealth redistribution and high progressive taxes and crippling economic regulations and government spending both to stimulate the economy and for the people’s “own good” isn’t socialism. And maybe Obama isn’t a socialist. But whatever those policies add up to, he’s it.”
High progressive taxes – nope. Pay attention to the REAL news, not the Fox News broken record. At most, he proposed allowed Bush’s tax cuts to expire. That’s not remotely establishing high progressive taxes. Look at the history of the highest marginal tax rate. You’ll find it revealing: the Fox “the sky is falling!” whining is just childish fantasy, not surprisingly.
Crippling economic regulations – nope. Have you perchance been asleep for the past year? This particular piece of right-wing whining is thoroughly refuted.
Government spending to stimulate the economy – yes. And of course he’s right about that. Failure to do so would be tragic in the short-term.
Government spending “for the people’s own good” – yes, and he’s right again. And of course every Republican president in modern history is also on board with this, though they tend to have very different ideas about what “for the people’s own good” means.
I appreciate your point-by-point rebuttal, but, boiled down, steroid
isn’t able to see past his Kool-Aid haze.
In related news, have you heard that right-wingers can now receive
a Limbaugh-O’Reilly-Coulter cocktail via IV drip?
“Allowing tax cuts to expire” – euphamism for raising taxes. Not being taxed is the natural state; taxes are government interference. Obama doesn’t view low taxes as an end in itself, and that’s what I disagree with.
In fact, that’s my sole complaint here. Not the policy, but the principle. Obama doesn’t believe in small government, the free market, individualism, getting rich, and all the libertarian politico-economic ideas that I do. I don’t care if his policies help the nation by his or anyone else’s standards. I have my own and they’re not his.
ah, the refreshing breath of ‘leave the wounded and run’ laissez faire economics of the loud idiot…
The thing is, I’d lay money on you being a retarded pauper who eats cold bean and clips coupons while claiming the government largess you claim to despise…
Calling me an idiot does not disprove my point.
And please do lay money on that; I’m fine with taking money from others who want to give it.
Who was sying anything about your ‘point’ (which I’ve yet to fully
decipher – I think it’s proving you’re mostly crazy)?
and from the level of posting – I’d say it’s like dear old Sammy-Joe… dreaming the American dream while other people get rich off your work… when you’re not claiming welfare
“Sanity is not statistical” -George Orwell
“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.”
Old George had your sort pegged… every comment a new deceit…
and as to the rest of your faeculance… I’d point you a Jean Genet (who’s French, so you’re not allowed to quote him after Gulf War II, being a
‘patriot’)
“Tout homme aime l’odeur de ses pets”
What deceit? I’m simply stating what I want. I’m not saying that laissez nous faire is going to keep us at the current level of prosperity or procide any specific benefit. I suspect it maximizes economic advancement, but that’s not my motivation. I am saying that laissez nous faire is the only fair and just system, and that even if it resulted in no prosperity, it should be implemented because of that. Whom have I deceived and how?
If that is the case, then it tells me that fair and just should not be the end goal. The end goal of society should be prosperity for the people, and if laissez faire is not going to get us there then it is not the system we should use.
Which is a matter of value and of choice. But it remains the fact that I am not permitted in any way to avoid the state’s confiscation of my property or life at will, which I mark as a criminal act, which authorizes me to take action in retalliation.
I think you’ll find you’re in a minority… We’ll come laugh at you in jail….
So you’re criminals who are justified in your own minds. That’s fine, but don’t expect me to agree with you.
No, actually, you’re the one making threats, and saying “a fie on your laws, and let each man be his own judge” like some low rent Anarchist…, so I’d say we’re just waiting for you die in a hail of FBI gun fire…
but please… tell us more of your dastardly pan Emperor Ming…
“Don’t attack me or I’ll attack you back” isn’t a threat; it’s a principle.
it’s a strikingly flawed principle. it leads in an endless circle of violence
and so, what, other than using a mix of gas and weed killer on a federal building, are you planning?
And I think that Law Enforcement would see that as a threat…
Tax avoision.
The got scarface on tax evasion, but one must ponder how close the federales are to someone whose wit can’t manage to spell “evasion” or worse, thinks the etymological root of the word is common with ‘avoid’
. . . or has watched The Simpsons.
@steroid
Don’t worry about Fester. Avoision is a perfectly cromulent word.
You embiggen us with your wisdom.
Ah, steroid is back to peddle crazy like it’s going out of style and prove once more he has the depth and breadth of a de-cerebrated gnat…
Do they really let people with that limited capacity near things that can break into sharp edges?
Entertainment value?
It would if he was at least original
American exeptionalism – bollocks… exceptional like a duplicate Chromosome 21 makes one exceptional…
Point taken. Maybe the entertainment comes from watching them suffer when they break it on themselves?
Now come on, Fester, you know that you’re bored since I toned down the religious stuff, and your life would be a little less bright if people like Steroid weren’t around to lampoon.
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I promise that one of these days I’ll give you a really good religion thread to fight with me about again
ooh, religion thread? sounds right up my alley. i tend to favor discussion over fighting, though – the fighting gives me an awful tic…
I’ve tried discussion in here about religion, but it tends to turn into mud slinging and name-calling.
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We can give it a shot, though
*dons troll-proof armor*
Feel free… problem is it’s an easy target. Claims of historicity or uniqueness are easily shot, claims it’s not a religion but are relationship can be treated with anti-psychotic drugs, and claims of moral high ground are dismissed by 5 minutes with google news (although some of that stuff leaves on feeling somewhat like ones brain needs an enema… possibly with something that destroys short term memory… I always walk away from that research feeling like I now know 100 things I wish I could un-know.)
So you’ve been to the church across the street from me? I thought
that was you. That day was a bit chilly for the buttless jeans.
I’d brought a friend too [link]
I think I see where the “grapes” problem may have started…
Now you’re shamelessly teasing him. Vamp!
I prefer boobies…
(o)(o)
They make me smile!
SOCIALISIM – OMG – SCARY WORD!!!
Meanwhile the Bush administration has nationalized the financial sector…
I love how people think by using the word socialism, they have automatically won any disagreement or debate.
that’s because the people that use it to win a debate, aren’t entirely sure how to effectively debate a subject
“I love how people think by using the word socialism, they have automatically won any disagreement or debate.”
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It’s because they’re dimly aware that “pinko” and “commie” don’t have the scare value that they used to. Then again, they’re dimly aware of most things…
More like ” How the Heck am I gonna keep all of those Campaign Promises?”
He’s a politican, he knows that ‘campaign promises’ are like a hooker telling you you’re the biggest she’s ever had… nice to hear, but you both know it’s not true…. and for her it’s marketing…
“how the heck am I going to get the Republicans to drink my Kool-Aid?”
I’d try spiking their oxycotin first… seems to be a membership pre-req…
So the Viagra is for their wives?
“Aaaaahhhhh … that last fart was a truly religious experience.”
Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; he thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Nah, I’m completely harmless.
you keep claiming to do this ‘thinking’ thing…
And you keep denying it like your denial will affect real change so we are at logger heads, I’m afraid.
Short of high voltages, I don’t see much changing you…
Wisest thing you have said all day. Unfortunately the rest will just be pedestal talk and condescension.
Of course… this late at night I begin to sound like you…
At least that was clever. *golf clap*
When you get golf clap does your wood turn green?
Wrong kind of clap so I wouldn’t know. Let’s dial Tiger Woods, shall we?
I’m sure there are many who would like to get their hands on his shaft, golf clap or no.
your wood turns red when you get the clap.
I bet it’s rough. And in no way fair.
trust me, you don’t want to know anything about the flops or the chips then…
Try using the ball washer.
I’ve enjoyed reading this slice of life.
I’m surprised that no one got teed off.
Or had a stroke!
That would be a bad break!
Or par for the course.
Are you being a putts?
You all drive me crazy
These puns are rough….
I’m sure we can iron it out.
What a wonderful approach!
I prefer to be at lager heads…
It’s good for what ales you! (BTW, you’re still linking to Jonestown…)
He’s a stout fellow.
Giving head?
He’s thinking about one of the following:
1) Whether the President still gets to vote “Present”
2) Baby killing
3) If Rahm will be as bad to him as Cheney was to Bush
wtf?
I thought it was pretty self-explanatory, actually…
Self-explanatory, sure. It was also completely idiotic, and that’s not another matter. I’m really disappointed if that’s all you can manage to come up with. The “Present” issue died quite a while back, baby killing is just a fundy propaganda buzz-word, and Rahm (while I don’t much care for him) is not Joe Biden, so that’s hardly a good enough parallel.
Just a thought, so don’t rip my head off, okay?
I totally support right to choose, and did so myself as a terrified teen, but now that I have a great life, job, hubby and fam, I have come to realize that it really is the death of a person. I’ve also counseled (not professionally, mind you, but as a part of my career choice) young people considering the option. Some have opted to follow through with it, others haven’t, but I continue to support whatever is right for their lives.
Please don’t just unilaterally dismiss it as a fundy buzz-word. “Baby killer” is meant as a slam, and it works for shock effect. But the fact one realizes it is a person (eventually) is real, does have painful ramifications that ripple throughout one’s life. I look at my sons and daughters and can’t help but be regretful. Not that I am suggesting others should do so, just offering anecdotal evidence.
Again, not ripping on, or trying to undermine, anyone’s politics or belief system. I just want anyone considering abortion, or who has undergone one, to make sure they have the support they will ultimately need one day. And I also want those who call it “baby killing”, or those who dismiss it as a “a fundy propaganda buzz-word,” to take into consideration the effects those words have on others who have exercised their legal right to choose.
Here, “baby killer” directly relates to a right-wing smear tactic
that failed. Obama was falsely accused of writing legislation that
would teach young children sex education. The right-wing
extremists clung to the buzz-word tightly, despite all evidence to
the contrary. The use of the buzz-word has nothing to do with any
concern about or respect the serious, difficult nature of unwanted
pregnancies. Phaelin was totally correct in dismissing the term
out of hand.
That said, your plea was sincere, and respectful. If anyone
trashes you, please just consider the source.
^respect *for* the
When people grizzle at me for my opinion on that subject, I just point out that I’m less pro-choice and more anti-life… that confuses them no end, and while they’re struggling not to have an aneurysm, I can make my escape… :¬>
Apropos little, but I thought I’d share.
That’s a perfect response, Uncle Fester.
Thanks.
Baffling the opponent is a time-honored tradition. Thank
you for the idea. I’ve been going with calling the other
side “Anti Choice.” The ones I’ve used it on don’t seem
to like it. They pretty much don’t like anything they
haven’t been taught to call themselves, though.
I call them ‘anti-choice’ too… since they’re really not ‘pro’ anything, unless you count the death penalty
See now why is the Death Penalty legal but assisted suicide is not? The criminals “deserve” to die and the people in pain… don’t? They don’t deserve a painless end to their pain but we can FORCE someone into being killed?
*disclaimer: It is not up to me to dictate who gets the death penalty nor the ethics of it. But I think it is pure hypocrisy to kill people for killing people and turn around and say “Suicide, and ASISSTED suicide, is immoral, wrong and illegal”.
You answered your question – hypocrisy.
Damn you and your logic.
“See now why is