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Well, that pretty much sums up most of teh intertubies!
*commentary on
I was hoping for something in reference to Universal gestures.
Meh. Sorry to disappoint.
But you’re right; the f**k you gesture IS not only universal, it’s become unanimously accepted as appropriate in oh-so-many situations where I wouldn’t necessarily deem it wise. In this instance, I’d have been concerned about whether or not people could extrapolate the same meaning from a stump, but since he has nine others getting this one shot off wouldn’t hinder too much his ability to booger-hook.
actually the middle finger IS NOT universal, if you flipped off someone from japan they would have no idea what you were trying to convey, good luck on your ingnorant journey through life
Wow! Where did THAT come from?
And I am just sure that Japanese people (replace with: pretty much anybody)
never look at the internet, never watch a movie or television, never read a book and it’s just TABOO to interact anywhere with ANY westerner.
Cuz’ the world’s just so isolated like thatt …
Get thee to a troll’ry, why woulds’t thou be a breeder of whiners?
Everyone knows other countries spend all their time on the internet learning about American culture.
Well of course! Isn’t America the center of the known universe? LOL!
Except historians belive this gesture orignated in either the Roman or Mediterranean world, so it’s very likely not native to American culture in the first place.
American borrowed this one from the rest of the world, it seems.
Or murdered, raped, pillaged and claimed it as its own. However.
you can’t possibly believe america rapes, pillages, and murders on a regular basis….can you?
Let me guess: You’re not Native American, and
you have never heard of Gitmo or Abu Ghraib.
Wasn’t it a reference to an archers in medieval England where to disable a good archer they would cut off the middle finger, and to express “I’m going to kill you” they would flick them off? That’s what I heard.
I’m sure their is a wikipedia reference some where.
Yeah, it’s kind of like the origin of “O K”, in that no one is certain exactly who came up with it. I’d heard that one too, but since we’ve had middle fingers since the dawn of mankind (duh, I know) it seems likelier that we’ve been using them as some sort of phallic reference for a lot longer.
The middle finger has been called the ‘obscenious’ since the 1400’s, when King Canute named all of the fingers in order to figure out how much penalty to pay by law for finger-severing. So that particular obscene gesture has been around at least that long!
Alas! Another example of how I was born
too late…
The ‘ok’ gesture is considered obscene by a large majority of the world, including the American Deaf culture. Even with a world made smaller by the INternet, American culture is definitely not the only one in this world.
Right story, wrong fingers. It was the index and middle fingers, and I believe you’ll still see this gesture (two fingers out, and hand flicked upwards) in europe today. Used after the French finally defeated the English in I don’t remember which battle.
Actually that’s all an urban legend anyway. But a very common one. There’s a link to a snopes article about it with a lot of details if you like.
We’re Americans, with a capital A, huh?
You know what that means? Do ya?
That means that our forefathers were kicked out
of every out every decent country in the world.
We are the wretched refuse!
There’s no dog more loyal, faithful and lovable than a mutt. :^)
Who saw “Old Yeller?” Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?
*raises hand*
That and those who refused to take any more sh*t.
Look closer. Israeli soldiers. NOT Americans. NOT Gitmo. NOT Iraq.
Funny enough, the Japanese actually do know what the middle finger means, it just doesn’t carry the same weight as it does here. Now, if you really want to diss a japanese guy, hold your thumb between your index and middle finger, it represents the menstrual cycle… which they don’t like all that much.
Frankly, I don’t like it all that much, either.
Got your nose!!!
yeah, in Iran you point with your middle finger and flip off with the thumb.
do you bite your thumb at me, sir?
No sir, I do not bite my thumb at you.
But I do bite my thumb.
sir.
Boy, do I ever know that …
And if you don’t believe it, look it up on the innertubbies.
LOL!
Are they related to the teletubbies? And if so, which one is the “gay” one?
All of them?
ROFL booger hook.
Oh, here we go….
Cue some eejit saying this insult is a valid excuse for murder in 3…2…1…
or some other eejit posting “first”…
…Or an eejit crying “shopped!”
…Or an eejit crying “Too Soooooon!”
Or an eejit crying “Don’t make fun of Obama”!
…Or an eejit crying “You think he’s the messiah!”
Bill O’Reilly is the Messiah
He can change water into opiate laced urine…
Pfft, there is a significant portion of the American population that can do the same after eating a poppyseed muffin and drinking.
Actually, in order to flunk the new test, you would have to have eaten 13 muffins in the last 12 hours. FYI for anyone about to use that excuse.
…and don’t ask how I know that.
Horse sh*t. We proved that wrong last year.
The Messiah to the Church of Pompous Gasbags
it’s a little known fact that the enviornmental protection agency spends most of their time dealing with the smug pollution of O’Reilly and other pundits. in fact it’s illegal to have an open flame near any of them due to the imminent explosion.
“O’Reilly and other pundits. in fact it’s illegal to have an open flame near any of them due to the imminent explosion.”
`
I would think that would make it mandatory.
no no. see they’re only releasing 10% of their bile. if all of that were to be released into the enviornment it would be worse than a tanker capsizing. the poor ducks would be sad all covered in smug.
Covered in smug. Okay, that made me laugh enough to move these bones.
HAHA i can raise the dead
There is an in bed and with a penis joke to be had but I am waiting for feedback from the pearl grabbers before making an official evil smex joke. Thank you for your patience.
He can also change a falafel into a loofah… or is it the other way around?
Not only did it make me smile, but it’s also spelled and punctuated correctly, if you assume from the poster format an implied colon between ‘gestures’ and ‘they’. Makes my little ocd heart go pitter-pat…;o)
I agree, and favorited…I’m just glad the middle finger has become such an international sign of love, although I greatly enjoy the Brits reverse “peace sign”. I can’t remeber getting through a day without using the “you’re number one salute” at least once (mostly in traffic).
Peace makes the world turn round…
Actually peace has yet to show up. Mostly we get by on bloodshed and apathy with a small sprinkling of kindness from time to time.
And in the extended forecast, I see some more riled tempers, a spattering of blood in a number of areas, and a big whine fest on Stormfront while Obama is being sworn in.
Now to rhorho with current events.
*compiles sports notes patiently*
Annnnd… Apparently rhorho in stuck in the toilet from a bad enchilada night. Now FailV with sports.
*hollering from bathroom*
Not funny, Wyrm!!! Let me OUT!!!
Are you playing a trombone in there?
We are having Technical difficulties. Please stand by.
*Tech difficulty screen with picture of Uncle Fester hitting things with a bottle is shown*
Uh………YES!! And there’s a duck in here, too.
*sends cameraman to film outside the door with Uncle Fester given a mic to give commentary. Exits from backdoor and makes escape*
And now, the viewpoint of the waterfowl protection society…
Rhorho should know that trombone playing is harmful to ducks. The WPA calls for her resignation.
Quack!
*muffled by gasmask*
mmmm mmmmmmmMMMmmmmm mmmmm
mmmmm
mmmm mm mmm mmmmm
*makes hand across the throat sign at cam and it cuts back to the main studio.*
*dons gasmask*
Are you my mummy?
*curls into fetal position under desk*
That kid was way scarier than any Dalek…
*reads all…cries for laughing*
You guyz are the BESTEST Newscaster!
Ah, the Ecclestone Doctor. The one you believed could have single handedly wiped out the Daleks and the Time Lords…
*paces, muttering*
I’m in here with a trombone and a Scottish
duck. If I ever get out of here, I am soooo
firing my agent!
*clears throat while pandemonium ensues below* ALL SPORTS CANCELLED
We interrupt this broadcast to bring you some information about children’s insults…
You’d hold up your hand to someone in a peace sign and say “peace makes the world turn round,” while turning your hand round….
Aaaaand, back to Rhorho….
…Aaaand, enlighten me. What’s that mean? I assume it’s insulting, but it would go right past me if somebody did it to me!
Backwards peace sign is the British equivalent to the middle finger. (I’m fairly certain)
A victory/peace sign with the back of the hand facing forward is an insult in the UK -I don’t know if that’s true in any other countries.
No, we’re the only civilised country in the world, I’m afraid…
Countries.
*pops more popcorn*
I was speaking of England…
Really? Funny how “the UK” morphs into “England”…
Yeah, the duck was me…
I live in the England bit… if you choose to live in Hyperborea then I’m not going to dispute your choice… it has strange arcane habits… like making series of Taggart long after Taggart died…
and if you’re the duck, then who’s Mr Simmons, the owner of the haunted fun-fair?
There seems to be some sort of thought translation device that means that every time someone mentions Britain it magically becomes England.
And if it weren’t for our “strange arcane habits” you couldn’t watch Taggart because there would be no TV…
Mr Simmons? Um…… I’ll blame Charlie Foxtrot……
The current system of TV was invented by the Germans.
Logie-Bairds infernal disc device died a death before WWII
*turns off TV*
That History Channel used to be fun…
No, you’re watching UF’s memories-of-being-sixty channel…
All you Brits are the same, aren’t you? I mean, sure there are minor differences. There’s the drunk English that live in the north, the drunk English that live on that other little island, the west English who all have tails, and the snooty English of the South. Right? (note: this is sarcasm. For those not from the “Islands of the North Atlantic,” the Welsh, Scottish, and Irish HATE it when you refer to them as ‘English’ or ‘British.’)
Seth. I love you.
*would broker deal to Seth for AC’s virginity since I stole it back but is currently a corpse overdone in this thread*
This channel is MUCH better…
*Lol not thread whatever. I’m dead*
LATEST HEADLINE!!!!
DWN’s corpse attacked by women’s rights group!
I’m trying to think of something really b!tchy to say to DWN to make him regret the trying-to-sell-my-virginity thing but can’t think of anything caustic enough. Does anyone have any ideas?
Nope.
Oh, just bile yer heid ya bawbag. I’m not addressing you.
you’re a virgin?
Are you honestly surprised that AC is a virgin?
Of course I am! I’m 16!
That was @ UF.
“Of course I am! I’m 16!”
I don’t think it is your age so much as your personality, AC.
@DWN. Age was the quickest explanation. Also, you can keep your speculations to yourself.
Um, no age isn’t. Apparently, you would be surprised at the ages that a lot of people lose their virginity. 16 being the age of consent in a lot of places…
As for speculation, more like observation but by all means keep trying to give orders on the internet. It’s actually giving me reason to chuckle.
*submits the surprising number of 30-year-old grannies in her city as an exhibit*
Anyway, it varies a lot from person to person…
Wiki states that Age of Consent for Scotland is 16. I hope she is happy because I actually bothered to check just to be sure for her country.
*grins* You’ve probably been tagged by the Internetz Police for that, ya perv!
@ Diss: I wouldn’t be surprised. I know I am destined to die a pointless death and as a near shut-in any arrest made on me will be equally pointless. It’s that whole Murphy’s Law thing. If I rob a bank, I will get pulled over for a tail light or something to that effect not during a shootout during the big crime. Or I will be nailed by a paranoid cop watching the webs when I am just making a point to an obnoxious teenager rather than me planning anything worth arresting over.
@DWN, Well, I hope not. I was really kidding; although I do get paranoid myself when I decide to look up something online like “how much antifreeze does it take to kill the average-sized person?” just out of curiousity.
And quite honestly if you robbed a bank and then got caught for a busted taillight, you be about par for the bank-robber course. But don’t do that, ok?
@DWN: Hey, aren’t you already dead,
anyway?
@Diss: I’ll work on it as best I can. Murphy’s law will most likely have me killed by a stray bullet in somebody else’s mugging before I can muster the ambition to do anything beyond the normal mechanical living crap anyway.
@Rhorho: Dead to the news story thread arc but not dead enough to the authorities.
There is nothing wrong with AC being a virgin. She should wait until she’s ready. Or at least until her mom is nominated for Vice President. *teacher rant off*
Didn’t say there was a problem. Just stating that I wasn’t surprised considering the level of attitude and overwhelming bile she has towards anything remotely sexual. Also I found her excuse of age rather funny.
Eh, I was a virgin at 16.
So was I.
Were you a virgin because you were sixteen or were you girls virgins because you chose not to have sex?
I, for one, chose not to have sex. I think
AC is right to use her age as shorthand, tho.
We knew what she meant, after all.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how I see it.
Mmm, I suppose that means I am definitely more jaded since I have seen a number of people who have had sex before 15 and pregnant before 17. Saying she is 16 as shorthand didn’t say that for me.
Teenage =/= Choosing to avoid sex. Least not in the logic I have seen but I am glad you two gals caught it, I guess.
I was mainly just saying that she shouldn’t get crap for it. I too have seen people have sex at too young of an age to detrimental effect and didn’t want AC to go away thinking there was something wrong with her being one. If you’re 16, 22, 28, hell even 48, you shouldn’t have sex just because you’ve been convinced that you “should” have had it by now.
No, I was giving her crap because she is caustic and obnoxious…
Really? I likes her. I likes you too. Can it be hugz tiem naow?
*hugs Jane*
I’ll pass and just let this die. I ran smack into the mothering instinct and that can’t be debated.
*hugs Rho, contemplates a TIME OUT for DWN but decides against it*
It wouldn’t have been advised anyway.
Hey, I wasn’t attacking you, or even directing my original comment at you in anyway shape or form, so please don’t get cranky with me. We’ve always gotten along well and I’d hate that to stop just because I gave support to someone you don’t get along with.
I saw DWN in there so I responded. I don’t know what to tell you. I am not amused by the brat who curses at me in a way you find too cute to be annoying nor has the disapproving matron behavior that has cropped up lately done much to further endear me to people.
Awww, is it upsetting to you that you’re getting backlash against constantly dragging gratuitous sex into political discussions on an all-ages access forum?
Good.
What are you going on about now? What Gratuitous sex? Are you daft or just looking for a fight tonight?
@ Jane and Rho: Thank you.
@ DWN: I think 16’s early, legal or no. I’m not going to sleep with some random just for the sake of it. Anyway, the only guys around are either my platonic friends or adolescent fools, arseholes, neds or smarmy gits.
@slan agat:
@DWN: I’m kind of with Slan on this one. A few references here and there are one thing, but you get into the TMI zone quite often, IMO. It’s not like you’re the only sexual being on this board, and most of us feel this isn’t the place to bring our particular needs and fantasies. I don’t have a problem with having those conversations, but I would look for the right venue before doing it, personally.
That said, let’s get back to where Rho and Jane were smooching on one another…
Then while you were clutching your pearls, you missed the toddler bombing thread. You missed the strippers and coke thread. Etc. Etc…
Then there is your lesbian make out scene reference. Let’s not forget Uncle Fester’s rump grape discussion. This is quickly getting old.
Hold that thought, going to work. Back in a bit.
@AC: Good for you! If it’s not right, don’t
force it, by all means. You’re an intelligent
and confident young lady, and I’m proud
of you!
@Slan: Feel free to point the posts I have made in the last few months that have been beyond what the others in the thread were posting, then we can talk gratuitous. Seriously, come up with actual back up to your claims instead of vague references in a thread where I am arguing that sixteen doesn’t equal virgin, nothing more or less.
@AC: Thank you for proving my point. It isn’t your age. It is your personality and the lack of worthy options. I don’t encourage sex for the sake of sex. I was making the point that saying you’re sixteen does not mean you’re a virgin.
@Rhorho: Who was forcing anything? I’m confused. I was arguing that age sixteen doesn’t equal virginity. I wasn’t telling her to have sex. Though I am glad she isn’t sexing idiots.
@PortlandMark: Isn’t a place for fantasies and then you talk about lesbian make out sessions. And for the record, if you have Actually read what I have said in the last few months, I have purposely toned down my posts. This is because I am tired of being the sexual cliche’ around here and tired of pearl grabbing whining. If you check those around me, I try to keep my posts to the level of the other and apparently more accepted perverts. So please continue with the head up *ss assumption fail.
@Jane: I took offense to your post in the first place because you were pulling the Mrs. Lovejoy think of the children crap when it wasn’t warranted. I wasn’t encouraging AC to have sex. I was stating that sixteen doesn’t equal virgin. I have a very low opinion of AC because of her snotty and obnoxious attitude towards me. However, that said, I find she is rather intelligent and thus I don’t fear she will be somehow swayed into sex by some 27 yr old American with a stupid username who isn’t even trying to sway her into sex. AC is obnoxious not stupid. Give her that much credit.
To the rest of ya’ll, I am going to say this. If there is going to be a double standard about who can post about sex and who can’t, I want it in writing. Send it to Rhorho and she can post it on my message board here where I will then post it on my profile and try to stick to it before I get sick of it and just leave.
Seriously, it’s getting old. At least be consistent. Hypocrisy is one of my BIGGEST peeves and it boils my damn blood. Stupid yes, since this is but the internet but there it remains. So I just ask that minor courtesy and if that prove too much, I will just resort to mostly lurking because apparently I am not “Thinking of the Children!!!!” with every post I make.
I was speaking to her, not to you. I wasn’t referring in any way to you whatever. You have absolutely nothing to do with what I said to her.
@Rhorho: That’s what I thought but I figured I would cover all my bases.
To clarify, I was telling her not to force
*herself* into having sex before it’s right.
That said, she’s a smart young lady, so
I was doing more in the way of reinforcing
her decision, rather than advising her.
Ya, I already said that… O_o
You’re in for a busy day today. You’re upset
with (in order) Slan, AC, (me), PortlandMark,
Jane, and “the rest of y’all? You’re planning
for a busy day, it looks like. I don’t care if
you rage at me over this, so I’m just going
to say it. From all appearances, your text
wall is a cry for help. I’ve seen this pattern
before: You get upset, scream “unfair,”
threaten to leave, then your circle of friends
comfort you with hugs and cookies, followed
by your gratitude and pleasure at having
achieved enough attention for the day. The
next day is the start of the new cycle, which
will proceed in the same treadmill fashion.
@….pretty much everyone: Reading back over this, I think the root of a lot of the conflict might be the phrase “I don’t think it’s your age so much as your personality,” which could easily be taken in a different way than it was intended. If you think about it.
@AC: You, dear, might note that stating that your virginity is obvious from your age could raise the hackles of those who weren’t, at that age, by implication that they are wrong for having had sex at a younger age than you. But applause for waiting until you’re quite sure you’re ready.
Altogether, I think everybody’s mostly in agreement here and just a few people’s tails got stepped on.
@Diss: Thank you, that actually helped.
@Rhorho: What circle of friends? And when did I do this yesterday? When did I exaggerate? I’m actually not upset with you and I am only annoyed at Jane because she followed up with pearl clutching with a joking threat of more matronly discipline. If anything, I am pissed at Uncle Fester for starting the Fratboy bragging crap that he said I was doing. I am still waiting to see where I was actually Bragging about anything. Even you the other damn day said I was boasting then when you reread my post, you retracted because you couldn’t find anything. So please, keep pontificating but I am going to wait for those rules I am supposed to follow because I wasn’t lying about there being a toddler bomb thread, a snorting coke off strippers thread, and yet when I make a crack about virginity, it requires this nonsense.
So yes, I am asking for help. I am asking for your little cliche’ of Slan, yourself, apparently Portland Mark, and Uncle Fester to actually get something consistent written down so I can know Exactly what isn’t going to irk you and if that just turns out to be me, I can leave. I just notice how much sex actually gets discussed, then I say something and Slan comes out of left field like he did on this field. Then again, maybe virginity and age discussion is gratuitous because he is a closet child hungry pedophile, I don’t know. As I stated and if you actually compared posts from a few months ago and the last few weeks, I have made a marked effort to tone down the TMI but apparently, Portland Mark is still seeing it. So I am done playing these games with your group. Write it down, post on my messages so I can take further steps. We’re adults and should be above this crap.
I don’t want a pity party, I am already overselfanalytical enough these days without trying to deal with getting a patronizing bit of internet cuddle time to soothe my itty bitty feelings. So if you are going to computer chair psychoanalyze, actually back it up instead of strawmanning me. The straw aggravates my skin and I am out of lotion.
All this is wasted, wasted – on both sides. Somehting like 90% of our communication is through tone & body language and this shtuff gets incredibly bogged down in explication. Foo.
With respects and love to all, I’m going to take the day off simply becuase I’m RL wasted with emotive overload. My best wishes for a calmer day go to all.
Rest well hun.
@ DWN: No rules from me, but, if it helps, I’ve noticed the decrease in “TMI” posts. Maybe the difference isn’t the topic itself, but the personalization. Perhaps the feeling of “frat boy bragging” comes into play when someone describes a particular sex act in an immediate, personal context. Any follow-up conversation centers on that one person’s individual sex acts or requires similar exposure by others, and thereby isn’t up for grabs and team play for those who don’t care to share on a personal level. That exclusion, coupled with the subject matter, may give rise to feelings that the author is indulging him/herself overmuch.
A week ago, my reference to your boasting (or whatever) was more of a general comment, enhanced by the tone of your attack. That’s water under the bridge, on this side. You understand that there is no pontificating, irked, computer chair psychoanalyzing, strawmanning, or claiming that you exaggerated yesterday here, right?
So basically, when I talk about sex, those who lack anything to add feel slighted and thus have to share that negative feeling with me later… That is depressing…
I talk about sex from my perspectiive because I don’t have sex in somebody else’s body. I don’t brag because I honestly don’t think sex with me is anything to brag about, maybe a step above laying back and thinking of the empire. … Anyway, I talk about sex because it is fun. I get responses and have more fun. I find sex to be nothing to be shunned and thus discussing experiences helps to enhance the experience of others. Ginger being perhaps my only real success in enhancing anything for anybody else.
For the most part, I try to stay out of the huge topics about history and politics, except for the occasional bit where I find the humor of adding In Bed or With a Penis but I blame Captain Wow for the penis addition to my bag of tricks.
I stopped talking about the sex act itself mostly because it would be a great conversation with at least two to five other people and then suddenly I get a pearl clutching wince fest that ruins every tiny bit of fun it was. I don’t believe in censoring the internet. I just don’t. There’s no point so that argument ALWAYS rubs me the wrong way because I never see it used on anybody else and hell I look for it just to make sure I am not being a primadonna and thus crazy. I honestly don’t come here for self aggradization. There is no point. I can get blown at home, ya know?
Either way, I cut back on it. Or at least made that effort. I won’t stop the topic entirely because I find it just as valid as a pun thread or rhyme thread. Hell, sex gets discussed without me even bothering anyway.
That all said, I want to say this as well. I want to thank you Rhorho. Despite everything and anything, you always manage to be the calmer of the two of us in any discussion. I don’t know what bile or adoration the next day brings but I want you to know that I always deep down appreciate your candor and understanding.
I appreciate your candor and sincerity, too.
I don’t think anyone cares whether you
talk about sex, except, perhaps, when it’s
immediate and specific. In such case, some
people don’t necessarily “lack anything to
add,” but simply choose not to add anything.
They don’t necessarily “feel slighted,” but
instead feel that a direct approach falls into
their “squick zone.” That doesn’t make them
priggish, necessarily. Perhaps you would
agree that, generally speaking, people more
priggish than you fall into the middle of the
Bell Curve, and wouldn’t seem “priggish”
to most. (Your expressions of feeling
attacked by “pearl clutchers” is my point
of reference there.) Does that make sense?
Just as a reminder, this is still an effort
towards understanding, and no attack is
intended.
Everytime somebody says something about clutching pearls, my mind goes wandering over to the term pearl necklace.
*wonders vaguely about her own mental health*
*gets distracted*
@Rhorho: Well let’s say that it bugs me when Slan comes in here to have a chest thump about me getting backlash for “gratuitous sex” comments when I am just talking about age and virginity and then has the gall to talk beastiality with the same minor in another thread. That is what really truly galled me. I wasn’t doing anything and haven’t really done anything only to be attacked by somebody doing something that could be considered worse in barely a thread over. As for the direct approach, well here is the beef I have. I wasn’t the only person discussing personal experiences but I am so far as I have seen the only person getting consistently attacked/flamed/chided/whatever. I found Uncle Fester’s thread about the point becoming like a gang rape victim more disturbing than anything I would come up with to talk about. That is why I wanted the apparent double standard rules.
It’s aggravating to be hit with hypocrisy over and over again. And don’t worry, you and me are good. I plan to take every word you say in this thread in the calmest and most logical light I can. *hugs*
@Diss: Now that you mention it…
Look, if I’m disturbing, it’s that you’ve got a pale pink brain about some stuff… same as me, same as every other bugger here… get over it…
and it was Grammar, not ‘the point’… the point was assaulted, strangled, assaulted again, then buried in a lonely spot on some moor…
@DWN: I’m glad we’re on an even keel.
There’s no point in bickering: We
accomplish a lot more when we are calm
and sincere.
As for the rest, it’s best to deal with others
directly, as I don’t own any franchises.
@Uncle Fester: I don’t recall making a fuss about it in the thread. I actually commented in kind. I am simply stating that had I made the same comment, I don’t see it going as well. That was my point. Either way, you missed the point of my point.
@Rhorho: Fair enough, I’ve been waiting for Slan or Portland Mark to speak for themselves the whole time anyway since they decided to call me on things I honestly haven’t done in months like they are current events… You and I were technically cool to begin with this go around. I just managed to exasperate things. Sorry love.
@DWN: No problem, and I was glad for the
chance to clear the air, anyway.
It was sort of the same lecture you’ve given me…
and no you didn’t…
Dropping the Fester mask (since you’re a smart guy, and I like you)
as to it not going ‘as well’… It think it’s that I’m usually that colourful in my mishandling of anthropomorphisms… Mother Nature being a robust old drab, Lady Justice being a hooker with a taste for old money and men in uniform… and pretty studiedly asexual. OK, I mention boobies, but that’s deliberately juvenile, and everything is theatrically grotesque… I’m a cartoon. Creepy, ooky Uncle Fester… equal opportunity curmudgeon and all around arse. Very little of it is ‘real’… it’s a parody of opinion and action. If I really believed my crap, I’d not be functional.
If you’ve committed a ’sin’ (which really you’ve not) it’s that you’ve actually shared the man behind the mask a little too much. Actually being the real deal is probably more disturbing to people (and more likely to get their puritan streak out) than anything else… I’m a cartoon… you’ve unfortunately become uncomfortably real… and that’s scary. Do you deserve to be villified for this?
Hell, no. I was out of order for my comments, but nasty old Fester does that stuff. If you noticed, I’d stopped, since I’d got the joke. You are as you are, take it or leave it. Something I admire as a character trait. So, ignore the prebyterians and self appointed monitors of good taste.
Despite my goading, I genuinely enjoy your stuff when you’re on form… that’s not to say the ‘in bed’ stuff is universally amusing… it has it’s moments, but sometimes, when someone IS being serious (which any clown is from time to time) it would be nice not to have to wrangle ‘in bed’ ‘with a penis’ type comments…
Otherwise *uncle fester pops back in to place* tell the cottaging ididots where to stick their faux moral horse droppings with a pitch covered pole…
The above was at DWN… obviously…
DWN may be ‘beyond the bell curve’ with respect to sexual openness by USA standards, but then the USA still has a bit too much Cotton Mather in its nature for my taste.
I’d rather that this country got a little more comfortable with normal human sexuality, and a little LESS comfortable with violence, and with violent impulses expressed through images (verbal and visual) of implied sexual subjugation. But that’s just me…
@Uncle Fester: That was refreshing and honest. I appreciate it and will try to curb my minor infractions. The sad thing being that I am not a cartoon. If anything the internet is where I can be completely myself. I have to wear a mask all day at work and most times around friends. Rare few people I feel I can honestly trust with how odd I really am. The name seems to throw people but I blame my inability at sixteen to come up with a proper name for a dark dragon god. I just keep it because I am a sentimental fool at heart. Either way, I’m honored, thank you.
@Viking Gal: It is something that always bothered me too. I would prefer an orgasm to a gunshot wound but culturally, people would rather watch me get shot than get off… Not because they hate me or even know me but because me getting pleasure is more damaging to them and theirs than me dying in front of them on film.
And… putting it into that personal perspective made my blood run cold.
@Viking Gal: Sorry, I missed a step. As for subjugation, depends on if there is consent. I’ve found myself thunderstruck over what people will ASK to have done to them. However, if you are talking about abusive sexual relationships that hinder the growth of one or more parties, yes, count me as against it. I don’t do that non-consent thing…
Hey, I’ll be honest. I logged off the computer and did other things last night. As a result, I only scanned most of the above and I doubt anyone will come back and read this. Let me copy verbatium the comment I made where I joined this discussion:
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There is nothing wrong with AC being a virgin. She should wait until she’s ready. Or at least until her mom is nominated for Vice President. *teacher rant off*
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It DOES NOT mention anyone’s name except for AC. DWN YOU responded with what you were or were not doing but my original comment had absolutely NOTHING to do with you until you responded. Following that Rho and I shared our opinions. I followed my original post and your follow-up trying to respectfully explain my position and you were unfairly cranky to me considering I DIDN’T DO ANYTHING TO YOU. Look, I’m not going to get into a TMI debate because frankly, I don’t care. If I feel it’s more information then I want then I just scan over it and move on with my life. I get that you don’t think much of AC, that’s not my business. I happen to like her, that’s not your business. Here’s where the problem is: I made a comment that wasn’t directed at you and didn’t mention your name. Furthermore, in all the time we’ve both been posting here I’ve never said anything negative to you and have frequently defended you to other people. Your attitude to me was unfair.
@Jane: I took the needing a Time Out comment as a rebuke. It actually had DWN before it. I actually stated that numerous times. The comment about not wanting her to think it wasn’t okay to be a virgin also rubbed me the wrong way as I wasn’t saying anything of the sort. So basically you came to her defense, even without mentioning me, over something she wasn’t being attacked over. Either way, whatever. You wanted to interject a random positive element which had a very awkward timing for me and I reacted. Sorry, the way things looked and still look as I read them over rubbed me wrong. I’m sorry you were misunderstood.
The time out comment was because you told me that you were argueing with the mothering instinct. See, the way it works is you say something unfair and something unfair gets said back to you. It doesn’t change the fact that my original comment had nothing in it to indicate that it was directed at you, or really had anything to do with you at all. It was also, clearly, said half in jest (hence the VP comment). You overreacted and that is your problem, not mine. Saying you are sorry I was misunderstood makes it seem like it was my fault you took it the wrong way. I’m not responsible for making sure my comments don’t inadvertantly offend you. Like I said, I’ve always been really nice to you and defended you on several occasions. For you to get on my case for something that wasn’t directed at you is extremely unfair.
@DWN:It’s true that you did come across as a pretty negative at first -possibly due to the fact that I told you to bile yer heid. (Sorry about that: I was just annoyed that you brought up the virginity thing AGAIN.) I thought you were insulting me when you said: I found her excuse of age rather funny. ” Excuse” does imply something quite negative, don’t you think? I suppose it was just a slip of the keyboard tho, since your later posts do clarify what you meant.
@Jane: It’s simple. Order of posts. Yours was right after mine stating that there was nothing wrong with her being a virgin. It was a random and interjected element into a debate. Thus it was addressed as a debated issue. It seemed a rebuke. It isn’t required to put a person’s name beside your post for it to address the previous post. I’m at a lost of what further to tell you. Your tone in the post seemed accusatory and I was already being defensive.
@AC: I brought it up as a smart*ss comment to you saying you love Seth. Your name calling in the other thread didn’t really engender me to go anything but negative. Then again, I was being an *ss but that was half the bloody point.
In a sense saying excuse was an insult because saying you’re a teenager in no way, shape, or form means innocence. That we aren’t exactly on good terms to begin with and every other exchange seems to reinforce that… However, at best, it was a soft insult due to your predictable use of Scottish flavored profanity. You’ve made a choice, which is perfectly fine and even laudable, however it has more to do with your sense of readiness and possibly the lack of worthy sexual counterparts. In your case, I am honestly going to say it is the former as I am sure with your grace and charm, you could have your pick of the Scottish Stallions, blah, blah, insert uplifting words here.
That said, the virginity joke started as more of an Ebay joke and I figured the concept that I was selling things that didn’t belong to me in any form would have hammered that home. If it soothes any wounds, I was conceptualizing more a sale of a piece of paper that says “AC’s womanly virtue” than your actual person. However your wincing reaction caused the joke to be funny to me again when you spoke of adoring Seth. Thus bringing us full circle back to the present.
I realize my post followed yours and if the posts were still nesting that would be one thing. However, by the time I joined the conversation they had stopped nesting and a great number of people had commented. I’ve been posting long enough that if I wanted to direct something at you I would have used an @ sign. I also refuse to apologize or feel guilty because YOU took my post the wrong way, especially in light of the fact that I have never been accusatory to you ever. I am not attacking you now either. I still think you are a smart, funny guy who adds a lot to the environment here. All I want is for you to stop trying to spread the blame, admit that you overreacted to something I said in innocence, and apologize for it. Nothing eloquent, drawn out, and none of this “I’m sorry you’re upset” crap. Just freaking say you’re sorry, is that so hard?
Um but I am not sorry. Your post annoyed the hell out of me as it came out of nowhere. Still annoys the hell out of me. So yes, I was defensive but I’m not sorry for being so. I already apologized and blamed myself in the previous posts for all I am going to blame myself. I am not asking you to apologize for anything or even admit anything. I’m just too stupid to stop myself from posting when you keep insisting I apologize to you.
However this I will apologize for. I am sorry that I didn’t say “F*cking Duh, Jane. Moving on.” and then stepping over your statement. Though I suppose I could go with something nicer like perhaps… “Ummm, ooookay. Irrelevant so moving on.” instead but eh, either works for me. Take your pick, you aren’t getting anything else from me.
Okay, continue being the victim then. Bottom line, I did nothing to you, I am not to blame for you being defensive. You lost a friend today, it was only an internet friend, but it is what it is.
You two! Make up or I’ll have to take my mask off again, and noone likes what happens then…
I’m with Fester on this one.
Thirded. Jane, cut DWN some slack, he’s been complaining of depression issues. DWN, cut Jane some slack, I’m sure she didn’t mean anything derogatory towards you. I really like you both and the idea of you remaining angry at each other makes me sad.
I’m not promoting divisiveness here, but I,
too, suffer the effects of Depression. IRL,
that state does not exempt me from facing
repercussions for my misdirected actions.
Stretching my neck out here, but the points
have been made. These two are both grown,
and can decide for themselves what to do
here. I suggest the rest of us butt out.
It’s easy to say, “C’mon you two, kiss and
make up.” Again, I’m not promoting
division, but see that as the easy way out,
and classic enabler-speak.
@rho: Would “Oh, for crying out loud, you two, stop being so pissy wiht each other!!” be ok?
@diss: I’m not sure either of them would
appreciate being called pissy. Opinion-wise,
I’m in the “let’s butt out” camp. As proof, I’ll
offer up that you can say whatever you want,
without consulting me.
@rho: Eh, I suppose not; and I’m going to agree with you and butt out.
@rho: you’re right of course. They’re grown ups and can make their own choices, and depression does not excuse grumpsnarking, it just makes me sad because I like them both and I don’t like to see people I like unhappy.
OK
I said that we’d all regret this…
The nature of this medium is crippled. It bypasses normal filters that we have in normal life. This is why I tend to go for the cartoon view of Fester. We also are lacking cues for body and face that we have in the ‘real world’. I quote that since, in some ways, due to the ‘filter’ bypass, this world can become more ‘real’ that reality… certainly on an emotional level.
Now, far be it from me to get in the way of a real hissy fit, this is just a breakdown in communication, based on the limitations and the rawness of the medium, what I’m seeing here is a breakdown in communication, not a real, balls out, ‘You’re a retard’ type argument.
You guys are mainstays of the community. Deal. And when the self imposed nasty SOB of the community says it, I’d take notice.
I said we’d all regret this… I am as I press the ‘reply’ button… This sort of peace keeping does no good for my rep.
@Rho and @Seth
‘Grown up’ doesn’t cut it… to play that card you end up missing the whole nature of the internet.
Now, can I get back in my damned shell… I’m like a hermit crab between homes…
@Seth: You have a tender heart, and so have
the others posting here, including me. (Hell,
even Unc, for crying out loud!)
It’s no fun when friends fight, but, in the long
run, band-aids on bullet wounds don’t work.
*sigh* After having said I’d butt out, I’m going to note that I’m dealing with a particularly annoying case/person today and so possibly what I said above might be taken as a little snippy; if so I apologize. For explanation, by “pissy” I wasn’t referring to thte two of you in general but really just the “You apologize”/”No, YOU apologize” exchange. And I do like you both; and in general agree with Fester that you’re dealing with a communication breakdown.
@fester, very good point about the nature of the Internet. And we always knew there was a big old softy behind the fester mask, don’t think you’ve been fooling anyone
Of course we know Unc has a softer side, but
that doesn’t mean we want to *see his back
four legs and slimy backside. I’m glad he
doesn’t change shells very often…
@Rho
If you think that my exposure is a band aid, then you don’t actuallly get the man behind the mask.
I was active on BBS before the web. I was among the first 300 AOL members in the UK.
I’ve seen this stuff more than you can imagine. And it’s damaging long term to zeitgeist. A new one will form, and maybe that’s great. Maybe it’s not.
Now, I’m not a big bridge builder, but watching a functional bridge burn simply due to two people having sticks up their arses
Nothing to apologize for really from any of you. Jane said something which had the timing of annoying the hell out of me. She is annoyed that I am annoyed and that I won’t apologize for being annoyed. Um no, I won’t apologize for having an emotion. I’m not asking her to apologize nor am I claiming to be some hurt and destroyed victim. I’m not hurt or destroyed. She wants to pull the We’re not friends anymore because you won’t apologize for being mad, then fine. I am not taking all the blame for an unconditional apology. There isn’t a point. I don’t even do those for Lynn and I get amazing sex from her.
It is communication breakdown and I’ve been apparently experiencing it for quite a while. Hell I think the only reason I stay on Gaia is because I can move on to different areas when I wear out my welcome. Looks like mine is quickly wearing out here so I am going to cut back my posts.
That said, no depression is excuse to avoid repercussions. Rhorho is right, however the enabler talk just puts off the invalidation vibe which makes me sound like a mental patient I know whom I would rather forget. So blah. I’m out of input into the matter. And I am certainly out of givadamn. Apparently I am better off as a parody.
In bed, with a penis, have fun. I’m tired, it’s cold. Etc, etc, whine, whine, blah.
@DWN: Hmm. After review of your earlier post, I think I may owe you an apology for my earlier post, as you weren’t asking her to apologize.
Anyway. *hugs* Have a good weekend even with the crap weather and all. I’m out of here for a while but will probably check in some over the weekend.
and live up the invertebrate similes…
@Diss: Nah, we’re cool hun. I haven’t had a single problem with you the entire time I have been here. If anything, you’ve backed me a couple times. Which means a lot to a guy who manages to set himself up to be shot a lot. No worries love.
@Unc: I don’t think your exposure is a band-
aid, and wasn’t directing that comment at
you. I didn’t see your post before I posted,
one minute after you did.
I just meant, generally speaking, placations
don’t solve problems.
Sh!t! And I just now read your post before
that one! I’m sorry, Unc!!
@Rhorho: Just in case, I wanted to say I wasn’t attacking you. I was just reminded of something unpleasant by the enabler comment. No worries. We cool.
I’m not suggesting ‘placations’, I’m suggesting that we have pepople talking at cross purposes. Generally speaking, things move while ever there is communication. The cessation of communications results in no net benefit, and a net loss over time. there is a tiny… and I mean tiny, chance that somethingsomething here will make a REAL difference. I’ve ben around long enough to see the pebble in the pond to become a tsunami… now, maybe I’m over estimating the dramatis personae here, but the lost synergy of Jane and DWN is something I don’t see as an easy loss…
In my defense, I am as about as necessary as a used Kleenex. This place did just peachy without me before I arrived and will continue to do so with me cutting back. Hell as it is, I haven’t cut back as much as I had intended. I’ve still posted about five times in the last hour. Least it is a three day weekend so I won’t be on then either so things should normalize without me.
Last sans mask comment
Never, NEVER underestimate the pebble in avalanche…
Now, let my arseholey resume…
Since I am tired of feeling like the sh*tstorm/avalanche, I will try to be the pebble then.
OK, I lied… none of us are the avalanche, we are all pebbles
BOOBIES!
In bed… With a penis but only if you pay extra.
Amen! *Rattles a Tambourine*
Least we can count on that still.
…And I’d like to apologise for contributing to starting such a beast of a thread….
Pfft, not your fault I don’t believe in unconditional apologies on DEMAND. I could apologize otherwise but eh. Still not your fault hun. You are not responsible for the evils of others and never blame yourself for things outside your control.
@everybody: erm, this may be an awkward spot to post this…but be assured it’s not intentional to point up anything – just timing
@DWN: Do you play guitar?
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/01/highly_questionable_guitar_the.php
@pdq: I am going to take this moment to say I adore you. I need to get a break from my seething frustration at the above thread. That was hilarious and no I don’t play guitar. Even if I did, my hands are getting arthritic which is one of the reason I haven’t drawn in ages. Still awesome though. *hugs*
Arthritic? At your age? Jeez, one more reason I refuse to grow older. That sucks.
kuro,
i’m 23. i’ve got arthritis in my spine, hips, hands, shoulders and knees. it’s genetic (i’ve linked to my specific type of arthritis – spondyloarthropathy). i started having trouble with my hips and knees back when i was 15 or 16. unfortunately you don’t have to get old to get arthritis. in fact, i’m getting ready for my second MRI in 2 weeks to determine if the arthritis in my hip has caused an alternate injury.
however, through the power of drugs… life goes on.
oh, and DWN… i stopped painting because i couldn’t hold the brush. it also killed my playing clarinet because my fingers would hurt too badly. i still play sax from time to time, but not like i used to.
I can ignore it most of the time but if I write something by hand or draw for any extended period of time, it starts to ache. Also aches due to barometric pressure but that is because of an old fracture I had. I probably just have crappy luck with my hands. You’ll be just fine.
@Shortright: Sorry to hear that love. That sucks a great deal worse than my petty hand issues. *hugs* Hopefully your MRI comes back with at least a little bit of positive news. -_-
Oh wow. *hugs* That’s awful. I’m glad it’s treatable, at least.
@DWN – i’d rather have my legs messed up than my hands. i use my hands for everything… if your hands hurt everyday how do you wipe your butt, or pick your nose, or type in comment sections of a goofy website?
as for the MRI… the first one came back that my sacroiliac wasn’t inflamed, which was good but that i may have an injury in my hip causing inflammation. so i’m going back in for a special MRI where they inject contrast directly into the hip joint rather than just by IV… it’s supposed to be way more accurate. the only thing i’m not looking forward to are the copays i’ve got coming at me from all of this. blech.
@kuro – you learn to deal. either you wallow in self pity and never do anything ever again… or you deal with it and just give up certain things. i use4d to love to rock climb, i can’t do it any more… it sucks, but it could be a lot worse.
Well it probably wouldn’t be so bad if he would stop popping his knuckles. >.>
@lynn – i do that too. my rheumatologist actually told me that while it’s not good for your joints, it’s not bad for them either. just so long as he’s not forcing them to pop… he’s ok doing that. it seems more likely that his prior injury is causing some scar tissue in the surrounding joints, ligaments, tendons etc and that’s causing the arthritis tendencies.
SO HA!!! I mean, I see. >.>
Original Shortright: I lack insurance so I can’t even get meds. I just mostly avoid drawing, not that I have much of inspiration anymore, and only write when I have to or when I work on DM homework to run game for D&D.
@DWN – there are over the counter meds that can REALLY help with arthritis. glucosamin (sp?) is really good for the joints, as is fish oil. talk to any pharmacists and they’ll be able to recommend an appropriate dosage for your size and level of inflammation. if you don’t want to do those, because they di tend to get a little pricey-er, you can do tylenol extra strength rapid release. yes, that’s a SPECIFIC type of tylenol. it’s about the same cost as regular tylenol but something in the formula is really good for arthritis symptoms. tylenol arthritis strength (or whatever they’re calling it now) is totally bogus. while having insurance and being able to get real drugs is nice, the side effect o the liver isn’t necessarily so nice. the OTCs work just as well on mild arthritis… so just go for that.
P.S. i’m NOT a doctor. i don’t claim to be one. i just happen to know a bit about arthritis drugs and such.
(stated because there’s usually one person in every conversation who has to bring up the “you’re not a professionally trained such-and-such so you have no right to be giving people advice on it”)
Not a doc and nor do I have arthritis, but feel compelled to point out that acetaminophen has no anti-inflammatory effect, although they could help with pain. (ibuprofen and naproxen do have an anti-inflammatory effect and are also OTC). Not a bad idea to exercise some caution with long-term use as well due to the potential for liver damage, especially if you drink (I know that’s not an issue for DWN, but it is for a lot of people). /Know-it-all PSA.
@shortright: I love that we both made the “not a doc” disclaimer! Do you play one on tv?
*agreeing with diss*
there’s something in the formula that works for some reason. i have no clue what or why… because normal tylenol doesn’t do it nor does tylenol arthritis. i was actually told by my rheum to get the tylenol extra strength rapid release and to use those when she didn’t want to up my meds b/c she was worried about liver functions.
i have no clue what makes it different than normal tylenol that doesn’t work, but it does. weird biology stuff prolly…
nope, but i do work for a healthcare company… so i could probably find a doc who would back whatever i said. “hey alan, would you sign the bottom of this page?… no, no specific reason you’re signing… i’m not pretending to be a doctor and need your name and credentials… nope, not at all.”
Already taking fish liver oil for the depression idea that Charro told me about before though it seems to make only a small dent.
Btw, thanks girls. Very helpful and I will look into them.
@diss – SIL worked at a pharmacy and no considers herself a knowitall on drugs. even told me i was taking the wrong meds for my condition. *headdesk*
@DWN – try the glucosamin… it’s expensive but works. you can get it at places like sams club in huge quantities for cheaper though. i wouldn’t have guessed that an OTC like fish oil would do much for depression, but then again i’m not a doc a pharmacist or a depressed person. so my knowledge there is nil, at best.
@shortright: I think it’s an occupational hazard; you get bored and start reading all the interactions and everything. If you don’t do that, then you end up crank-calling customers or having sex in the stockroom….
@DWN: I think glucosamine is one of the things my mom takes for her arthritis; she also uses some type of veterinary meds that I’m a little leery of but which she assures me just aren’t approved in the US because the FDA has it’s head up it’s a$$….she’s a grownup and thinks it helps. I can find out what it is if you guys want.
@diss – it doesn’t help that she’s kinda a know it all on everything else too. but i can see where the job would get boring and you’d read a lot of stuff. however the med i was on was one she never would have encountered. it’s a specialty injectible that has to come from specialty pharmacies because of the ways it has to be stored and transported and stuff. i told her she was wrong, she started yelling and i walked away… i excused it as her being pregnant and as such off her bipolar medications. might be giving her the benefit of the doubt though.
vet meds?! that’s scary… i know some of our stuff starts on animals and all, but if it’s not FDA approved i’m really wary. even one of the dosages i’m on right now isn’t approved for someone of my size (i’m at the max dose for someone 50lbs heavier than i am) and that has be all weirded out. not to mention, fearing for my liver (esp. because i like beer… a lot).
That was AC with cultural events. Thanks AC. rhorho is having technical difficulties so we will cut to FailV instead.
*paces in locked bathroom*
*uses crowbar and busts Rho out*
*sniffs*
“Good God Rho!!!”
*pushes Rho back in and welds door shut*
DWN, live from outside the building. We can no hear the screams of those who have smelled what the rhorho is cooking. It is safe to say it endangers America and possible Mexico. 25 injured. 2 dead. More as this story develops.
*We can NOW hear…
I swear I am going to break these fingers if they don’t cooperate…
“possible Mexico?”
*breaks DWN’s fingers, figuring it couldn’t hurt,
and might help*
In a related story, Out-going President Bush has announced the discovery of WMD in a sealed bathroom, and a terrorist plot to Rho-gas America. Invasion plans to follow…
In breaking news, Bush has presented details that a mastermind known as slan agat is responsible for the terrorist activity. He also states that the threat will be dealt with by absorbing the gas with DWN’s ego. Hey Wait! I don’t have an ego!
Fetch my latte NOW!!! *sips latte* Now polish my shoes…
As I was saying, I do not have an ego. This is preposterous! I’m going to kick his Beep and tear off his beep beep beep and then beep beep… Oufff!!!
*is tackled, beaten, and carried off by Secret Service*
Rho here. Yes, I know…
DWN has had a little bit of a technical problem
himself today…
*wipes foamy spittle off desk*
Back to the news:
Two toxic gas clouds in Texas appear to be
headed towards Crawford and Dallas,
centering on the newly purchased home of
the president. Our on-the-ground reporters
are on the way. More as this “breaking”
story develops.
*toward* I got the DWN disease!!
*Offers Penicillin*
Thanks Srrsly!!
*injects self with penicillin, then daubs a little
extra behind each ear*
That seems to have done the tttrick.
Oops! I guess it takes a while to kick in…
It’s not reality tv…it’s PKTV!!!
In breaking entertainment news, Peace was spotted last night leaving a hot LA nightclub with Lindsey Lohan. Peace then ran over a paparazzi’s foot, hit a parked car, and projectile vomited on the police as they were arresting her. Rumors are that Peace will be entering rehab in a plea-bargain agreement and will likely have to perform community service.
In bed… Which isn’t different than any other night.
In other breaking news: Peace has hired Gloria Allred as its attorney and will be appearing on Fox News with Britt Hume. Peace is worried that the liberal media and those pesky bloggers might take anything Peace says out of context and blow it all out of proportion…back to you, DWN!!
Tragedy struck when twin sisters Faith and Belief were found dead in their hotel room, loaded up on enough drugs to kill a herd of deer. Police are ruling it a homocide due to injuries they say came from a struggle. They aren’t releasing the names of any suspects…
However these two men were seen at different times earlier that night. *picture of n8 and Uncle Fester*
If you have any information, please call us at 1866GIVADAMN.
DWN, this just in…Court documents show that Faith and Belief had taken a restraining order out on George W. Bush back in 2000. Neighbors say they heard a struggle with unnown assailants last night and later saw George W. Bush being walked away from the scene.
Wait!! I”m getting reports of a white bronco driving north on 95 followed by a number of police vehicles. We are getting sketchy reports that the Bronco is being driven by Dick Cheyney and that Bush is apparently in the back seat…more on this story as it develops…Wyrmie, back to you.
MMmm MmmMM mMmm mmm!
*said while gagged and bloody in the back of a black, unmarked van driven by Secret Service*
And cut to our panel of experts on freedom of the press and the right to an ego…
*Cuts to scene with Bill O’Reilly and Keith Olbermann choking each other*
Quick!!! Go to commercial!!!
((LOL))
*continues banging head and wonders why I am being shown a little TV while being driven to who knows what*
*back from commercial break*
…and Richard Simmons will now show me
how to make one of his healthy favorites.
*dons apron; walks over to kitchen set-up*
So, Richard, is this recipe in your new book?
Film of a random aspect of life with pretty landscapes in the background…….
Oh, it’s a car advert.
Dammit Rho! Too sooooooooooooon.
Ahem…
*back from commercial break*
…and Richard Simmons will now show me
how to make one of his healthy favorites.
*dons apron; walks over to kitchen set-up*
So, Richard, is this recipe in your new book?
Wait, so when under extreme stress, DWN starts singing old Crash Test Dummies songs? Who knew?
*sighs and softly bangs head on floor of van while being taken to destinations unknown*
*van stops. Thugs pull DWN out and leave him in front of Fester’s house, bound, gagged and in nothing but undies, then speed off*
*is suddenly very bothered by this situation but glad Uncle Fester is still at the station. A bit jet lagged from the commute to England but more than able to grab a sharp bit of glass and cut self free. Flees and wonders how the hell I am going to get out of here. Planning is cut short as constables carry me off.*
Double damn…
DWN! You’re in England!
Oh!
…………..
We have a new Britain correspondent.
*calls DWN at constable station*
…All I remeber is you saying something about drinking Jet fuel and seeing if you could fart your way into outerspace. Got all the way to England, though. Better luck next time, DWN.
O_o *puts down phone call and plots horrible revenge on mothergoose for paying off those thugs*
*cough* Ahem, this is DWN from… Inside a prison cell for indecent exposure. I don’t know why I am here or what is going on. Let alone how I have a cameraman and mic… Apparently I am to be executed for derangement under the Articles of Allegiance under High Chancellor Sutler. It’s been a great ride and good night everybody.
*Bakes DWN a cake with a Master Key to the prison in it*
*brings DWN some clothes*
*and a getaway car!*
You can drive a stick shift, right?
*is killed the next day while cake is in transit. Is given to the next prisoner in the cell due to a clerical error who makes an escape to later become a high paid mercenary in the Middle East war zones. DWN is bured in a shallow and unmarked grave*
oh we marked it, just not with a head stone…
*graverobbers steal DWNs unmarked corpse and return to FaileV, who has some fun playing doctor (Frankenstein) * IT”S ALIVE!
Shhhhh!!!! I told you not to tell anyone!
*whistles, gazing up at the sky*
*bows head reverently*
Here lies our dear friend, poor DWN
His neck stretched by the noose.
If he’d only gotten the cake in time
Baked by mothergoose.
(above intended for ubr, but fits for FaileV,
curiously…)
*is now a crispy corpse due to excessive electrical experimentation*
*cough* sorry sorry it’s the mad scientist genes ya’know *adjusts dials*
crispy corpse…Krispy Kreme…mmmm…donuts…
*leaves office in search of diet breaking goodies*
*brings tray of assorted donuts while watching FaileV’s attempts at medical history*
@MG — Oooh! You get any cinnamon-sugar ones? If not, I’ll take a glazed. Thanks!
@Diss: Help yourself…plenty to go around!!
*warms cinnamon roll over DWN’s still smoldering corpse*
how bout a raspberry filled for us workaholics over here?
*puts chocolate with sprinkles in corpse’s
mouth, in case FaileV’s contraption works*
*puts unpopped bag of pop-corn in corpses hand for sh!ts and giggles*
@ubr: Would you mind coming back to the “Fine Line..” lol and clarifying some details for me and Portland Mark regarding your experience with being drawn on by the armored car guards? We’ve got into a whole big thing over discussing it.
Give the mad scientist some room people, too many confections in my work area. *adjusts knobs and dials and hits machine with a hammer. blinkers blink, whizzers whiz, and something goes pop* well that should do it *pokes DWN’s corpse
Why is my donut on fire?
*grabs now popped popcorn from DWN’s hand and begins to nom*
*is now on fire*
*puts fire out by repeatedly whacking corpse with a chain*
Oh, well…
*dunks flaming donut in coffee*
Mmm…warm and crispy.
I blame all the snacks, making corpses lethargic, messing up there metabolism, terrible
FaileV, a good craftsman never blames his tools…
well of course, i insist the hammer worked, it’s all the extra snacks. DWN isn’t dead anymore, just on a sugar crash. tsh reanimated corpses today.. back in my day when you reanimated a corpse it had the good manners to at least get up and wreck the lab a bit. no respect no respect *wanders off mumbling.*
Well, if he doesn’t at least smash some test
tubes, I suggest you refuse to revive him
in future.
*passes FaileV some forged “Do Not
Reanimate” documents*
*stays dead like a good waste of space*
*feels guilty, but doesn’t know how to
operate FaileV’s machinery*
*suddenly comes up with bright idea*
Adolf Hitler…Nazis…Luftwaffe
Joseph Goebbels…The SS…Sieg Howdy
*has trustees who inherited that task*
*is one of trustees*
Now, get up, ya lazy dead bum!!!
And now for the weather. It’s F*ing cold in Philly, and probably elsewhere on the globe. Traffic in 10.
That’s STINKIN’ cold in Philly, soon to be feckin’ UNBELIEVABLY freeze-your-nuts-off cold by Friday with a high of only 16*.
And for all my buds in Minnesota, yes, I know – ‘what are you complaining about? That’s sweater weather!’
*confused dog sound*
Hey…I live in York, Pa and it’s sunny and 95 today, but the wind is whipping out of the north at 90mph bringing the windchill to -6*
You’re yorking me around…
Nope…Born in Scranton, raised in Philly, spent two years in Lubbock,Tx., back to Philly, College in Ohio, then transplanted in York…
Lubbock? That’s almost as bad as… as…
Amarillo!
*screams*
amarillo? i’ve always wanted to gorge myself at the big texan…
You’re among friends here, so that’s okay.
BTW, do you think these shoes are okay with
these slacks?
There must be a lot of wind in my office cause it’s damn cold in here too. And far too many stink bugs. I hate those things.
If there are living insects (even indoors) it’s not cold.
We’ve got a high of -5 today, with a low of “my car keys just froze to my skin”. Sunshine all day!
Forecast for overnight: “Stay the fsck indoors!”
Well, here in the land of horizontal sleet it’s bloody freezing too.
Flaming Nora! I venture outside for half an hour to do the Avon round… Drookit isn’t the word for it…
Why the hell do I live in Scotland? Why couldn’t the Picts have found their way to Benedorm? I am moving there the first chance I get, I swear…
AC you live in Scotland? My family and I are heading over there in July to do some family history tracing…will it still be sleeting then?
Ah yes! Precipitation that defies gravity is always especially nasty!
@MG Nah, in July, probably just plain old rain…
*is somewhat dazed* So THIS is what happens when I’m at work.
Yes, you miss a riveting discussion about weather.
Don’t worry: you can be a newscaster too…
LATEST HEADLINE!!!
PKTV signs on schoolteacher in attempt to logicify future broadcasts!!!
Good evening viewers. This just in: I can’t brain this evening, I has the dumb. (I have spent the whole week administering tests in which the students read to me and I write down what they say wrong. If I have to hear about Halloween at the Zoo one more time…)
In other weather news, I endured a Tuesday of 38 (100) degrees. It didn’t get below 28 (80) degrees until 11am the next morning.
I would be jealous, but I’ve seen your spiders. I’ll take the minus five it’s supposed to be tonight with good grace.
i’ve never been to halloween at the zoo… how was it?
Well…. apparently the animals went for a walkabout since their cages weren’t locked and they were mistaken as participants in the halloween costume contest. That little issue went unresolved in the face of Tyrone’s stunning version of a two-footed humpback snakebiter costume.
You lead a charmed existence, Dear.
That’s nothing. You should have read the edge of your seat mystery, Buttercup Bates: Private Eye. Couldn’t put it down.
At least they didn’t read HP, and ruin it for
you. That would be like Bill Shatner singing
your all-time favorite song…
I’m safe, no point doing a running record on HP. It’s too advanced and too British to be of any use in leveling kids.
But the later books in the series have enough heft to level most kids at one blow.
One of my happiest parenting moments was discovering that after I read HP chapters to my 3-year-old at bedtime and turned out the light, she would turn the light back on and read ahead until she fell asleep. The only word she couldn’t figure out was “euphoria,” she remembers to this day. (She’s 13 now.)
Awwww! That takes me back a few years,
to those glorious nights of Nancy Drew by
flashlight… *sigh*
Narnian Tales here.
I thought it was tidal forces and inertia… who knew?
Pffft, you and your science… Science is the lesbian sister of Socrates…
No wonder I found her so damned HOT when I was I was in school…
Drats!! And I just returned all those clothes to Dykes R Us…
When she makes out with her friends Biology and Physiology…. Dayum!
Maths was a hot chick too…
I always had a hard time understanding her. She seemed nice enough though.
Hoo boy – didn’t she ever show you her slipstick?? ;>
I never got far with Math… English I did just fine with.
Yesh, me too also. I still likes numbers & geometricities, tho – comes in mighty handy wif sculptings.
The running news-commentary has got to be one of the funniest bits around here for a while! I dropped in for a few minutes & got sucked in – gotta run off now, taking my mom home from the hospital. Haffa gute tay & smooches at allye *mwah*
LATEST HEADLINE!!!
Married newscaster caught kissing sculpting enthusiast.
LATEST HEADLINE!!!
PKTV accused of being reactionary and news-mongering….
((In prison even!!!))
O_O NO CAMERAS!!! Can’t a condemned man get some privacy?
LATEST HEADLINE!!!
AC told to shut up.
Privacy?
LATEST HEADLINE!!!
Freedom of Press threatened!!!!
LATEST HEADLINE!!!
despite earlier accusations of being reactionary and news-mongering PKTV gains recognition for having the fastest headlines in the media
Then shouldn’t we say,
“EARLIEST HEADLINE?”
ba dum chh
GRANDMA’S LETTER:
Dear Son,
The other day I went up to a local Christian bookstore and saw a “honk if you love Jesus” bumper sticker.
I was feeling particularly sassy that day because I had just come from a thrilling choir performance, followed by a thunderous prayer meeting, so I bought the sticker and put it on my bumper. Boy, I’m glad I did! What an uplifting experience that followed!
I was stopped at a red light at a busy intersection, just lost in thought about the Lord and how good He is and I didn’t notice that the light had changed. It is a good thing someone else loves Jesus because if he hadn’t honked, I’d never have noticed!
I found that LOTS of people love Jesus! Why, while I was sitting there, the guy behind started honking like crazy, and then he leaned out of his window and screamed, “For the love of GOD! GO! GO! Jesus Christ, GO!”
What an exuberant cheerleader he was for Jesus!
Everyone started honking! I just leaned out of my window and started waving and smiling at all these loving people. I even honked my horn a few times to share in the love! There must have been a man from Florida back there because I heard him yelling something about a “sunny beach”… I saw another guy waving in a funny way with only his middle finger stuck up in the air. Then I asked my teenage grandson in the back seat what that meant, he said that it was probably a Hawaiian good luck sign or something.
Well, I’ve never met anyone from Hawaii, so I leaned out the window and gave him the good luck sign back.
A couple of the people were so caught up in the joy of the moment that they got out of their cars and started walking towards me. I bet they wanted to pray or ask what church I attended, but this is when I noticed the light had changed. So, I waved to all my sisters and brothers grinning, and drove on through the intersection.
I noticed I was the only car that got through the intersection before the light changed again and I felt kind of sad that I had to leave them after all the love we had shared, so I slowed the car down, leaned out of the window and gave them all the Hawaiian good luck sign one last time as I drove away.
Hey Grunt, I guess this means we’re related…my grandmother and yours must be one in the same!!!
ROFL! I love that so much. I think I’ve been behind her.
…in bed…sorry had to…
I’m going through DWN withdrawal since he’s now a rotting corpse
Are you from Chicago?
Your having a heart attack.
Edward Monckton!
*cough cough*
*whisper*
“You’re”
They laughed… then they shot him…
I find this picture to be pretty hilarious.
Ah… when you’re running low on rockets, you must resort to this terrible doomsday device.
Yes, the F-bomb is very effective in any format, usually. But the Israeli government has the “UN-get-off-our-back” card. That trumps all, I believe. After all, it worked for Hitler in the 30’s and for Stalin in the 50’s.
I guess that if you want to eradicate an entire people, the best way is to follow the pattern; remove them to camps, starve them all to death and ignore the rest of the world.
Israel learned from two of the best, it seems.
Yes, yes, the wang is summoned but not pleased.
the wang might be better pleased by the fact that adolph hitler [LINK] is now no longer in his parents custody!
Now to figure out which is worse. Taking him because of a name or that the parents are nitwits.
they say they didn’t take him “because of the name” because that would be unjustified and all… i’m thinking the worse part is that his parents are inbred morons (nitwits just doesn’t quite seem to cover their end of the gene pool).
Pretty much they are going to fabricate a reason. They are stupid for sure but the name isn’t a reason to take away a kid. Name choice is not something I want left to the government.
Can we agree that someone messed up enough to name a kid Adolph Hitler might possibly have some other issues that would make them inappropriate parents? Just possibly?
well, dad says he named the kid that because it’s “unique” and no-one else would have the same name. but if you check out the pictures associated with this article [LINK]… you’ll see they’ve got quite a bit of neo-nazi stuff around the house, and the house is situated in a large neo-nazi filled area of pennsylvania. i’m not up to snuff on my child protection laws but i *think* being raised in a cult is reason to remove a child. i’d definitely classify a neo-nazi camp (for lack of a better word) as a cult. and then the name is just kinda the icing on the acke… the parents can’t really claim they don’t believe the nazi ideals when the house is covered in nazi memorabilia, the kid is named after hitler, they live in a neo-nazi camp, and dad has a swastika tattooed on his had.
/rant
*cake
That, I will go with. Yes, being raised in a cult is a good reason to remove them.
That laid an egg in TX… but that’s because it was a Jesus cult…
i think the major issue in TX wasn’t only that it was a jesus cult, it was that they claimed they had a call from inside the compound that forced them to go in… but upon further examination there really wasn’t any call.
they might have a similar issue here though, in that they obviously went there wanting to remove the kid b/c of his name… they just happened to find all the proof to support them while they were doing it.
i’m all for that kid being taken away from his parents, but they have to make sure they follow the laws and do it right so he doesn’t get sent back to them.
Ya, as a child I had to spend a few months away from my mother due to a crazy aunt making up accusations that later proved to have no backing and distanced me from my grandparents because they were stupid enough to believe them so Mom didn’t talk to them for a few years which meant I didn’t talk to them for a few years.
If you are going to yoink a kid legally, do it… I dunno know… Legally?
@DWN – i have a crazy aunt. but no one listens to her since she claims all sorts of crazy things. according to her eating meat causes cancer. but not because of hormones in the meat or anything… just meat. did i mention she’s crazy? and vegan? and a body builder? and CRAZY?
that sucks about being yanked from your family for no reason though.
Oh there is much much more about that crazy aunt and her sadistic three sons but after the one girl claiming everything and anything, I am loathed to share my experiences. Nothing would change anyway.
sounds like your family is full of oxygen thieves… capital offense you know?
Then address the other issues. They took the kids based on a name. Does that not bother you? The article I read basically stated they had no reason to take the child other than the issue with his name. They were coming up with something. To me that is Backwards of how law is supposed to work. They are presuming guilty before evidence. And no, the child’s name is not evidence before an impartial court, which apparently we don’t have since the child was taken in the first place with such flimsy reasoning.
Shortright clarified the other issues, which is fine. If they are crazy cultists, get proof and then grab the child. The name isn’t proof. They could have easily just been jerks, which is still legal.
I think someone should drain that portion of the gene pool. Too dumb to bread!
*breed* sigh.
i’m sure they wouldn’t be able to figure out how to make bread, either. it’s okay. *hands viking gal a slice of banana bread*
Those two certainly give lie to the myth of superior dentistry in the US… they could have been Dutch…
i *think* there was quite a bit of drug use in their past. i was bored and researching these fools and i’m remembering them both fessing up to hardcore drugs use (but of course am unable to find it right now). meth face usually looks like that… it rots your teeth something nasty. not to mention all the gross stuff it does to your skin and innards.
Sucks to see it in your sister too. -_-
Now this is what I would have liked to have read before I made statements. All I had before was there was issue with his name and he was taken. Now I am actually getting reasoning. Ugh. *headdesk*
@DWN – at first i was all fire and brimstone about them too. then i got curious and did a little research and the more i read the more i was disgusted. the kid is better off without them. his name was bad enough…. but the rest of it is just disgusting. horrible human beings. my friend hank and i used to call people such as these parents “oxygen thieves”. it’s an apt title, no?
@ shortright: Nice to see I’m not the only one who refers to certain people as “a waste of oxygen”.
@diss – YAY! it’s a precious commodity and these mouth breathers are taking more than their allotted share. cleanse the gene pool and allow more oxygen for the rest of us!
Oxygen thieves, I like it. Can we make it a capital offense?
punishable by death? or do we just revoke their oxygen rights and see how well they do on their own?
… >.>
Can it be both?
most definitely!
Yum! Thanks!
Isn’t the “UN-get-off-our-back” card more properly called the ‘Holocaust’ card?
… or “guilt trip” card. It all means the same thing.
Anyone know why-might the person on the right be wearing the headgear we see? Doesn’t look like any jewish sect hat I’ve seen.
P.S. I don’t think it’s ’shopped.
I’m going with “to keep the sun out of his eyes”.
Ah, the history of humankind and of human fashion. What percentage, I wonder, of the hats made & eventually widely worn effectively keep sun out of the wearers’ eyes?
Excellent question! Personally, I prefer sunglasses.
Yep. Good ones. I have perfect vision without glasses or contacts, so wearing sunglasses used to drive me bat-shit crazy. I tried on a pair of Oakleys one day, and was amazed by the clarity.
I think it would be cool to wear a Panama hat just for the fun of it.
Something broad-brimmed, like a cowboy hat, would not only keep the sun out of the wearer’s eyes, but keep the rain from dripping down the back of his/her collar.
Or the snow, indeed. My black wool felt hat does so admirably, being in shape somewhere between fedora and cowboy – the brim is too wide for the former, the crown dents in the wrong place and the brim too flat for the latter. It actually looks rather similar to the broad black brimmer of the IRA (link, ducking out of Fester’s line of sight).
*glare*
Actually I have quite a collection of Fedora style wide brims… they’re dead practical ( a lot more so than the ‘Indiana Jones’ Poet with Adventurer cut a la Herbert Johnson, IMO… the brim is too narrow..)
Actually, it’s probably the most efficient headgear for desert regions… hell, I still were mine for gardening when it’s hot… and it’s not that bad in wet and windy weather….
Ah sorry, I was looking at the right. It’s helmet cammo netting. Maybe he’s machine gun or sniper…
That should read ‘the “wrong” right’ ;¬)
*spins in circles trying to find the right right*
*falls over*
*is confused*
*offers diss a left hand to help her get back on her feet*
*comforts her with brownies smuggled from several threads back*
camouflage helmet netting is used to disguise the shape of the wearer’s head in order to prevent them from becoming the target of sniper fire…
and it also makes you look really cool when patrolling the strip looking for burka babes…
I can’t help but notice that it’s usually the captions with the quickest ‘gut’ reaction that make it onto the home page, and rarely the ones with actual wit.
In that respect, I guess it pretty much mimics life.
To be fair, there’s not an awful lot of LOLZ to be had in Gaza.
I always miss out on the good threads.
Pic is a win. It’s snowing here in IL and I am NOT looking forward to driving in it.
*munches skittles thoughtfully*
Least you have your health.
I hope you’re not referring to mental health.. I don’t think I have ever had that.
I doubt that anybody does.
I am heavily medicated.
With a penis.
I wish! That would be fantastical.
..In bed
=oP
Hopefully it won’t be much longer for ya.
T minus 1 month and counting.
Will there be ginger the night he arrives?
Hahahahaha you dirty boy.
Just curious to see how long before he gets to see how ginger keeps you indoors all weekend.
Hahahahahahaha. Yes, there will be ginger. T minus 1 month and counting. Then I’m sure he will have full understanding.
Excellent. Glad I could help in my humble and small way.
I am glad you could help as well.
HUG TIEM!!!
*huggle huggle*
*squeeeeze*
Yay hugs!
Mmm, the world sucks a little less now that I have had a dose of hug tiem.
I still have the drive home to “look forward to”.
*squeeeeeeeze*
But I don’t wanna!!!
*huggle* Well hopefully it won’t last too long and you will snuggled up and resting at home before you know it.
Least you have your Skittles…
And the screen name of a 70’s “coochie-coochie” diva….
That imposter has only one “r” in her name. I have two. Also, I am addressed as Charro IRL.
Just so you know, you know?
I think I’m in love.
No wai. With whom?
Random trivia: As silly as her stage persona is, it’s an overlooked fact that Charo is apparently a pretty darn talented flamenco guitarist.
Thanks diss!! Maybe now people will look at me a little less ridiculously.
I’m old enough to have seen her play on TV. VERY talented…and sexy, too!
Must be tough to play with all the feathers…
especially with her holding peeled ginger where she does…
…taste the rainbow. Didn’t someone theorize that rainbows are actually unicorn puke?
I thought it was pegasus poop.
even num yummier.
Num Yummy?! WHO’S NUM YUMMY?!?!
But they have gold at the end…. So, aren’t they leprechaun bogeys?
Maybe leprechauns are also attracted to pegasus poop.
No. Rainbows puke more rainbows. [LINK]
Okay. That was sick.
i think that link gave me a seizure.
LOL!!!
That… was just bizarre. What the devil possesses some people to… oh, never mind.
Oh, that Rachel Ray! She’s a heller, that one!
Is that an Hassidic helmet (or Helmut)?
I can’t believe we’ve been on this thread all day, and no one has said Word One about how that man’s head covering matches the chain link fencing.
Have we really sunken that low, people???
Style, he has it.
Not shopped– this is from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7822942.stm number 10…. It was taken at the Jan 9 protest at Bil’in– I was there.. and the soldiers didn’t stay behind the fence very long. >_<;
quelle surprise… there again, it had become a penis size issue…
Look at the smug little smirks those little shits are wearing.
c’mon Obama, rescind support for Israel so Apartheid can finally end….
*crosses fingers*
this is just offensive. take it down.
To whom?
So are all these PK commenters’ constant uses of “in bed” and “penis size,” even though (I think) the latter usually has a good basis in psychology. Are you a stranger to the comments?
This ain’t your auntie’s ICHC, luv. I wish it were closer to that — with more standard English and a lot less vitriol, but there’s some excellent thinking and writing going on here.
Penis size? Who the hell is saying that?
In bed and With a penis is the word usage I’ve seen…
That was me… about why they soldiers came through the fence…
Aha, and that is why we need an edit button. Now to be appropriately horrible.
Soooo, do we know if a good time was had by all in the picture or did she call them later nagging?
In defense of the PK commenters, we do a far better job of using standard English (including spelling, punctuation, and capitalization!) than people on a lot of websites. Overall, we’re nowhere near perfect, but an “edit post” option, as noted many times before, would help immensely. Yes, we occasionally get crude, but we do at least tend to be crude in a somewhat literate fashion.
Remember – your Shift button is your friend.
there’s a shift button?
Good God- don’t any of you people have jobs?!!!!!!
I don’t need one: I get paid to stay on at school.
If I was one of those two guys, I’d start laughin’ and laughin’ just to make sure the point got across that the given gesture hurt me by a factor of diddly squat
. And it does look like they are about to crack up.
Apparently, it didn’t end well…
Name for civilian is Shaif Hirboush — 49 year old palestinian lady. Known in town for her unruly locks and willingness to show them off. Very risque.
Uncle Fester can go to the Bloody Bowels of Hell (along with the French- the bastards) for the comment he made about England being the only civilized country on the face of the Earth even though it is not a nation and only part of the UK (which is really Great Britain- call it what it is you Tea-Drinking Pansies (Manly Scottish and Northern Irishmen excluded from the previous insult)!). You may ask why I am insulting everyone, it’s because I’m an AMERICAN and that’s what we do! Deal with, sissy. Now get lost before I start insulting you in AMERICANEESE!!!
Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!
Melissiaklfsdhkshglksrhgkds (think of a better nickname!) can join Uncle Fester in Hell for Apartheid comment while being poked by Hamas terrorists who blew up the buses of innocent school children and starting the current war! Have fun frying like bacon in hell Melissiakawhozuwhatzit! Mwhaha!!! (Don’t you love the open the discourse of ideas.)
Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Who is awesome.
Indeed
I stole your exclamation points, Super-Froob!!!!!!!!
Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Super-Froob is a noob.
Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!