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Nero just fiddled… Bush Riverdanced!

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  1. OldGregg says:

    Fail…

  2. n8 says:

    Hm… more like, whereas Nero merely fiddled while his empire burned, Bush was going around with a can of gas and a box of matches.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Poor old Nero got a bad rap… he actually returned to Rome to co-ordinate the efforts to put the fire out and led from the front. you know what Guilliani was portrayed as in 9/11? That was Nero…

      • got it right says:

        Thank you. I was going to mention how they were paying him a compliment without realizing it because of bad PR for Nero. He actually open his own palacial mansion to the people that were displaced. So If he one up’ed Nero then he must have done really well.

        • PortlandMark says:

          I’ve heard that the fire was a big win for Nero, because he’d been looking to do some unpopular urban renewal in the fire damaged areas anyway. Can anyone confirm or deny that for me?

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Actually, he made significant improvements to the slums in terms of sewage and clean water.

            • mothergoose says:

              Well, Bush did that…kinda. Hurricane Katrina wiped out the slums in New Orleans, and we had to rebuild it…I’m sure that included new sewage systems and clean water…

              • rhorho says:

                What percentage of the destruction would you guess has been
                rebuilt by now?

                • mothergoose says:

                  I was watching Olbermann the other night and he referenced it. He said that there are still over 9,000 families still in FEMA trailers, 5 hospitals are still closed…

                  • Mr.Wholesome says:

                    And didn’t they dust off old blue prints to rebuild the levees.
                    Because, ya know, the old levees worked so well.

                    • PortlandMark says:

                      In 1998, Discovery Channel ran a documentary about the Lake Pontchartrain (sp?) levees, and the trouble New Orleans would be in if it was hit with a category four or better hurricane. In the documentary, it was said that the levees were unfinished, waiting for some huge amount of money from the feds, and that if the money was released to finish them, NO would actually weather future storms rather well.

                      • mothergoose says:

                        I think it was Rachel Maddow who interviewed a writer from La. who said that the reconstruction plans for the levees would hold for a “hundred-year storm” (meaning the type of storm which might happen once in a hundred-years), but that Katrina was a three-hundred-year storm. He also stated that the Dutch plan their levees for a ten-thousand-year storm. Armed with that information, they forged ahead with the original plans…

                        • Tessie says:

                          The old levees might have been appropriate for the coastline as it was when they were originally built, but coastlines, barrier islands, sea walls, etc. are notoriously changeable due to storms, erosion, etc.

                        • viking gal says:

                          Not to mention the Army Corps of Engineer’s work at ’straightening’ the Mississippi river, which made the thing flow more rapidly, speeding up that erosion…

                        • slan agat says:

                          And development that has utterly ravaged the mangrove swamps, which used to be a very effective buffer against Gulf storms.

                      • rhorho says:

                        IIRC, the figure was $10 billion, which was
                        considered to be too expensive for the risk…

                        • Is it terrible to suggest that maybe 1) building major parts of a city below sea level, when not absolutely necessary, is a crap idea; and 2) REbuilding major parts of a city after it’s been shown that, yes indeedy, it’s going to flood like crazy occasionally, is an even more crap idea?

                          Not all of the New Orleans area flooded. A huge percentage of the residents of the lower 9th ward were renters anyway, so I doubt they really care about moving to the exact same place (and if I’d owned a house there, I’d gladly take an eminent domain buyout). There’s areas near and around NOLA that could be built on instead, why not do that instead of sinking so much money into flood control and levees? Bulldoze what remains of the wreckage and make it a much-needed wetlands area.

                          Feel free to commence throwing the rocks at any time. ;o)

                        • FaileV says:

                          Isn’t New Orleans actually sinking as well. i mean before the flood the ground level and such was sinking at like…an inch a year.

                        • rhorho says:

                          You may be shocked, but I agree. Old New
                          Orleans was built where the original Native
                          Americans had lived. The natives hunted in
                          the area we know as the Lower 9th Ward, but
                          didn’t settle the area, for some reason…

                          The people in the Lower 9th were largely
                          renters, but people owned those properties.
                          The short public attention span, coupled with
                          gross lack of concern of the Bush admini-
                          stration, has sustained a nightmare.

                          Imaginative ideas, properly funded, *could
                          have* led to some great results.

                        • rhorho says:

                          (above was @ diss)

                        • mothergoose says:

                          *puts down rock*
                          I understand where you’re coming from, Diss, and I remember thinking at the time that instead of rebuilding NO they’d be better served spending the money to relocate. Since then, I’ve kind of come around to the thinking that “God forbid it happens where I live and they decide not to rebuild”…so while I won’t toss a rock, I will politely disagree.

                        • Well, yeah, I know when you rent, somebody owns the house! But if you were a lower 9th ward slumlord, wouldn’t you take an eminent domain buyout from the government if it was offered?

                          I don’t think it’s too late to give up on the idea of doing something creative and different there. Maybe that’s something the new administration can address.

                        • mothergoose says:

                          *addendum*
                          But I could be talked into agreeing, because I also see many areas where that money could be better spent (ie- education, job training for unemployed…)

                        • …stupid lack of nesting at this level…my post above was @rhorho.

                          Ok, so @ MG: Yes, I’m fairly fond of my house and neighborhood as well, but I’m not making a decision on what I’d want to do until after it’s been under 8 feet of water…

                        • rhorho says:

                          @Diss: I caught it, and I agree that there is
                          still a chance that NO can be properly rebuilt,
                          especially in light of the fact that many
                          Americans with construction skills need jobs.
                          I worry that NO has been neglected for so
                          long that it is a case of “out of sight (press
                          coverage), out of mind.”

                        • mothergoose says:

                          @Diss: That’s very true. And I hope for all of our sakes it never comes to that, and you are right; unless you experience it, there’s really no way to tell how you are going to feel about it. My mindset has always been that material items can be replaced. I don’t personally know anyone from NO, but I’d like to know what their perspective is on whether to rebuild or not…

                        • pdq says:

                          Isn’t the trouble with NO largely because the Mississippi delta is so damn sprawling and changeable? The river itself all along it’s length sheers off bits here & re-distributes upstate silt there. The delta’s floods moosh things around so dratted much it seems impossible to set up any permanent settlement short of a water-bourne one.
                          Mark Twain admired the river for it’s imperviousness to being tamed & channelled if you haven’t read Life On The Mississippi, it’s a fine bit of Twain.

                        • @ PDQ: Too lazy/busy/hungry to go look up cites at the moment, but from what I understand, “flood control” and channelizing the river lead to lack of wwetlands and consequently fewer, but far more destructive, floods.

                        • *sigh* I meant “led”, not “lead”….and take a w off wetlands.

                  • rhorho says:

                    New Orleans’ population is less than half of its pre-
                    Katrina (29 August 2005) number. Any guesses as to
                    *which* residents are still homeless?

                    [LINK] to 4 Aug 2008 USA Today article, indicating that
                    repopulating efforts have likely reached a plateau.
                    According to that article, “There are 65,000 blighted
                    properties or empty lots
                    throughout the New Orleans
                    area.”

                    The current number is likely not much less, and much
                    of that rebuilding has come from private organizations,
                    such as Habitat for Humanity.

                    • mothergoose says:

                      I have also heard (but would have to find a specific cite) that most of the federal money went to rebuilding Mississippi, which wasn’t hit as badly.

                      • The population is lower, but the damage was at least as bad, although more of it was directly hurricane damage rather than subsequent flooding.

                        • mothergoose says:

                          Maybe that’s why. If I remember correctly, wasn’t Biloxi just about flattened?

                        • I think at least the part nearest the coast. I know people from around the Pass Christian area who lost everything.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Mississippi had better PR:
                          CASINOS were ruined!!!!

                        • Confoozled says:

                          And there’s a lot less of MS on the coast. It’s true, the casinos draw in a lot of money, but they also provide jobs for a whole lot of people. They re-opened as soon as possible, so at least people could come back to some kind of income source. NO’s economy had a lot less to fall back on.

                        • rhorho says:

                          True that. Also, MS didnt’ have trouble with
                          insurance carriers backing out of covering
                          storm damage, because there wasn’t an
                          accompanying flood.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Check that: The flooding that accompanies a
                          storm is covered, but, in the case of NO, the
                          flooding from Lake Pontchartrain was
                          considered to be “rising” water, not “storm”
                          water. A house with storm damage, but also
                          with “rising” water damage was typically
                          denied. The buck was passed to FEMA, and
                          we all know how well *that* went!

                        • slan agat says:

                          OK, guess it’s down to me to call a spade a spade.

                          Mississippi: Republican politicians from the governor on down. Got lots of help.

                          New Orleans: Democratic mayor and governor, got fncked.

                          Administration overseeing it all: Under investigation for using the Attorney General’s office and federal prosecutions as an arm of the RNC.

                          Any damn questions?

                        • Kashmir says:

                          Oh now wait just a minute. The Mississippi Gulf Coast is still in shambles. Had it not been for volunteer organizations, many people would still be in FEMA trailer hell. That we have a Republican governor made NO difference. People on the coast are still fighting insurance companies who refuse to pay up because the damage was caused by storm surge (flooding) and not the actual hurricane itself. Hurricane insurance does not, by default, cover flood damage. Interesting loophole, isn’t it? Haley Barbour fought like hell for everything Mississippi got. It wasn’t alot. Being Republican may not have hurt but it damn sure didn’t help.

                          Katrina and the aftermath was one massive clusterf*ck from start to finish. For the record, I’m a register independent who didn’t vote for Haley the first time but did the second time and I’m a raging liberal to boot.

                        • rhorho says:

                          @slan: Only partly true about MS. Go to
                          Google maps, and take a tour. Only the
                          casino area/Biloxi has been rebuilt well.
                          A couple of MS villages (where there were
                          no casinos) remain entirely demolished.

                      • Kashmir says:

                        Hrm…Waveland MS was basically wiped off the map. Nothing was left. The Mississippi Gulf Coast caught the brunt of the hurricane. New Orleans survived the original storm only to be trounced by flooding caused by levee failure from the storm surge. Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagoula all are still reeling from Katrina. FEMA was all but useless. The horror story of what happened in New Orleans eclipsed the rebuild on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Lives are still in shambles from the storm. Both areas will never be like they were.

                        To say that Mississippi wasn’t hit as badly is wrong. There wasn’t the dense population of New Orleans to consider but for about 10 miles from coast to interior was laid waste. We got a category 1 hurricane in Jackson. Hattiesburg was hammered.

                        I’m not being disrespectful, just answering your question.

        • n8 says:

          Interesting. Thanks to both of you for the history lesson!

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Nero did have to kill his mother to ensure a clear run at the throne… so he wasn’t exactly a ‘nice’ guy either…

          • Jocasta says:

            And not only that, he had to try several times. Old woman wouldn’t die! :|

            • Uncle Fester says:

              She’d pretty well murdered her way to the top, and then wouldn’t let go. TBH, killing her was a public service.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              As a side bar, doesn’t politics like the romans did it put of Slick Willie’s BJ to shame?

              • Not so much as it shows how oversensitive we all are. His BJ wasn’t anything close to Roman politics and we acted like he drank her blood afterward and raped her bloodless corpse.

                • Uncle Fester says:

                  Indeed…

                  I miss the good old days, when a political point could be resolved in a duel…

                  • They were bloody days but at least they did something…

                  • Tessie says:

                    Yeah, you and Andrew Jackson.
                    `
                    “Jackson was elected to the top office, and when he wasn’t busy shaping the Presidency as we know it today, you could find him out back dueling. In case you haven’t been to the 18th century lately, this unmanly sounding activity actually involves standing across from an armed man and shooting at him while he in turn shoots at you. The number of duels that Jackson took part in varies depending on what source you consult; some say 13, while others rank the number somewhere in the 100’s, both of which are entirely too many times for a reasonable human being to stand in front of someone who is strying to kill them with a loaded gun.

                    On one occasion, he challenged a man named Charles Dickinson to a duel, (the reason behind it wasn’t important, not to us and certainly not to Jackson), and Jackson was even kind enough to give Dickinson the first shot. We’re gonna go ahead and repeat that: In a duel with pistols, Jackson politely volunteers to be shot at first. Dickinson happily obliged and shot Jackson, who proceeded to shake it off like it was a bee sting. When Jackson returned the favor, Dickinson was not so lucky, and that’s why his face isn’t on the twenty. The bullet, by the by, remained in Jackson’s body for 19 years because, we assume, Jackson knew that time spent removing the bullets would just fall under the general category of “time not dueling,” Jackson’s least favorite category. ”
                    `
                    No TV in those days, I guess they had to make their own fun.

    • PiMan says:

      I’ve always found the term ‘gas’ weird. It most definitely is a liquid based on oil, not a gas based on natural gas.
      .
      That’s why we call it petrol here.

    • Literal says:

      Oh yeah … so many strawmen to set ablaze, so little time :)

  3. PiMan says:

    Looks more like a line dance to me.

  4. KaBooM says:

    clever…

  5. Mr.Wholesome says:

    Sorry that was cruel. I knew they weren’t over there. They’re actually, THAT’A WAY!

  6. Jack Squat says:

    To nitpick, Nero wasn’t actually in Rome when it caught fire, so he probably wasn’t fiddling. As others have said as well, he did help the refugees.

    …well, except for the Christians, he sent them to Gladiator camp.

  7. lowly grunt says:

    LOL!

    I wish I had Photoshop; I’d add this [link] guy’s head to one of ‘em…..

  8. Mike says:

    Yet he kept any more Americans from being killed by terrorists here in America ever since9/11/01.

    • PiMan says:

      I have a rock. It keeps away killer elephants.
      Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

    • slan agat says:

      Yet he was asleep at the switch despite repeated warnings and allowed thousands of Americans to be killed on his watch ON 9/11.

      Next fncking question.

    • PortlandMark says:

      1) He didn’t stop 9/11, in spite of many warnings.
      2) He didn’t stop attacks on American’s outside of US borders.
      3) He is the only president to lose an entire American City.

      • Beth says:

        Cite sources? Especially “lose an entire American city”? What city was entirely lost ? And Clinton didn’t stop Osama “in spite of many warnings”.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Clinton did capture the WTC bombers, within a couple of weeks… the ‘warningss’ of Al Qaida activity were at the end of the Clinton admin and the intel was handed to the Bush admin who promptly did nothing.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          and if Bush hadn’t screwed FEMA by putting his horsey buddy in charge, then it would have had more of a chance of NO being sorted with some speed, rather than the guy going on vacation as Katrina floods hit…

          I’d say that was a ‘lost city’… If you’re going to have an Emergency service at federal level, give the job of running it to someone whose emergency experience goes a tad further than a thrown shoe…

        • Uncle Fester says:

          and as a final reply, a question.

          Do they have to get a proctologist to confirm your eye colour? I’d have thought so, since your head is for far up you own arse… curious minds want to know…

  9. NinjaPacman says:

    I’d laugh harder if it looked like he was Riverdancing. But it doesn’t. Actually, now I just wish he’d chosen a career in Irish dancing instead of politics.

  10. pyano says:

    I find it very annoying that it is referred to as “riverdancing” in the post, and that no one seems to think it worth the time to correct. Riverdance is a dance company in case you forgot, and they perform IRISH DANCE, which Michael Flatley certainly didn’t invent. You’d think that a nation that stole and bastardized a holiday from the Irish could at least remember a few key points of their culture.

  11. DaffySaffy says:

    What’s more, that’s not proper Irish dancing they’re doing, ‘cos they’re smiling! Irish dancing is VERY SERIOUS, people! Hands straight by the sides, face forward, back ramrod-straight, and above all NEVER smile – people might think you’re enjoying yourself!

    (Did Irish dancing at school, wasn’t all that good at it, never got to the level where I could have the noisy, clunky shoes, but all these years later I’m not bitter, honest. . .)

  12. megan says:

    it’s not called ‘RIVERDANCING’ it’s called Irish Step Dancing.
    I’m an ISD teacher and it drives me NUTS when people call it riverdancing…

    sorry, someone on another post brought this up and there was a big discussion on it.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      I call Irish folk music ‘Diddly-Eye music’ too…

      Are you bleeding from the ears yet?

    • slan agat says:

      On the other hand, muirnín, Bush did for governance what Michael Flatline did for step dancing – flushed traditional ideals down the loo in favour of his own skewed vision and played to the lowest common denominator. So it rather makes sense.


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