MILITARY RECRUITING… YOU CAN’T START TOO YOUNG
MILITARY RECRUITING… YOU CAN’T START TOO YOUNG
(George Bush)
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imho this is in very poor taste… even for pk.
It is why I chuckled and favorited.
TOO SOOON!!!!
Yep, he should have went for the fifth graders instead.
I’ve read stories about College Basketball Coaches recruiting 6th graders and getting them to sign letters of intent for scholarships. Maybe this lol is onto something…
My brother stated his military path as a Highschool freshmen in ROTC (I was an ROTC member for 3 years) and had my parents sign papers to allow him to sign up for the Marines when he was 17 (they still couldn’t take him until he was 18 but he went to training exercises and such and went to bootcamp soon after graduation). So 9th grade seems to be the limit for now though I think I’ve heard of Jr. Highs with ROTC programs so that’d be 7th maybe even 6th grade.
I rather liked ROTC in high school, but i never saw it as much of a recruiting tactic. not like the guys that come in with pimped out Hummers letting people play call of duty at lunch time and telling you how the Army is so fsking awesome. ROTC at least encourages you to continue schooling and get a degree with the college program
I liked it the first two years and you’ve got a good point. I still see it as recruiting but you point out a modern version that’s probably highly successful.
It was the creepiest thing when the recruiters came to school. it was always “OMG the air force is so great, and they’ll teach you there, I got a degree in six months and now i do cool stuff, join now join now” “hey look at our awesome car, you want a car with 50 tvs and videogames inside? join the army”
At least with college ROTC the kids have a chance for a normalish experience. They got to school, interact in society normal situations, and afterwards finish their commitment to the military then can continue on with a normal life.
The kids have a chance to find themselves at least a bit, and growing up a little before having a very altering experience.
what i found even worse when dealing with recruiters was that they literally told their recruits that they could pick out their MOS and they were guaranteed to get it if their test scores were high enough. this promise got lots of people to sign up, but when it actually came time for the MOS selection process it was done by lottery at the recruit depot. once you had signed the papers you were given a job that the army needed filled.
I suppose if you scored OMG awesome you’d have your pick of OMG awesome job, but otherwise yeah, they are getting cannon fodder. I respect what soldiers do, I know someone has to do that hard jobs, but the kids arn’t really warned and by the time they know, they’re in the thick of it.
I suppose my job IS awesome. Thanks… it’s kept me up nights, but it’s worth it. Thanks for your encouragement, though.
JROTC (high school kids) always kind of scared me… whereas ROTC (college kids) seemed like a great way for kids who couldn’t make it into a service academy to join the military as an officer…
18? Here I can join the army (I’m 16) but not vote, drink or drive… great.
Ya, die for your country but you will be driven to the goal and you have to be sober.
(let’s see if this starts anything, lol)
PErsonal opinion here, but I think that if you are active military at 17 or 18, you should be allowed, with proper military ID, to legally buy alcohol. Like DWN said, you could be sent to die for your country. Is buying alcohol still too much for you?
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If you are active military, you should be able to do those things that ‘adults’ can do when they’re 21. Otherwise, it’s silly to send an 18 year old overseas with a gun.
Personally, I think it’s stupid to send an 18-year-old anywhere with a gun. I’m perpetually surrounded by dumb 17- and 18-year-olds. I’ll admit that I’m stupid too, but then, I wouldn’t give me a gun, either.
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I mean, one of my so-called “peers” was laughing about date rape the other day. It made me feel sick.
That’s awful… “Peers” ay? Some of them make me feel like I might actually be the sane one -rather worrying…
Depends on the joke really but usually it is hard to make that subject funny.
How about a scenario where both parties have intent to date-rape the other, spike each others drinks with Rohypnol, and pass out drooling on the table in the restaurant across from each other?
I am glad I stopped myself from laughing or otherwise I would have to explain why I am laughing at work…
Work is not fun damn it! You WILL NOT LAUGH!
Why is that? Because military recruiting is okay at this age, or because… actually, I can’t think of anything else you might mean.
poor taste because
1. not that funny
2. these kids are about 5
3. again, not that funny…
anything else?
1. Subjective
2. The age is irrelevant because 1 is subjective
3. Again, subjective.
I dunno, do you actually have anything else? I found their age to be what made it funny in the first place. *shrug*
if you really want a nice long reason as to why i think that this is in poor taste is :
begin rant here.
by making any sort of comments that the president of the united states is coercing little kids to join the military shows a complete lack of respect for the people that volunteered to go out and protect your rights as an american. you believe that this caption is making fun of bush when in reality it belittles our fighting forces as kids who were brain washed at a young age to believe that fighting for something beyond themselves is a noble and just cause.
therefore i believe it is in poor taste.
notice i wrote “IMHO” in my original post. which is a subjective statement to begin with…
I think you missed the entire point.
You think recruiting = coercing? That shows a greater lack of respect for people who volunteered for the military than anything that’s been said here.
Also, I think the LOL goes a little deeper than that — there’s a considerable subtext when you look at the recent issues over recruiting on college campuses and in high schools, which to me makes this more humorous.
“recruiting” five year olds wouldn’t be taken as coercion?
I don’t see recruiting as having that connotation; YMMV.
Holy overly serious reaction Batman!
It’s okay–It was sorted out later. Just one of those
awkward moments most of us have had.
Then you listed your humble opinion as facts when questioned. You choose to be offended stating that it insults our troops. We choose to laugh because we feel it insults Bush because he is a war monger and greedy twit with daddy issues.
Ergo, mileage may vary. So continue to state your opinion and we will continue to state ours. You are still simply stating your opinion as fact when it is all subjective to begin with. Outlining your opinion doesn’t change that.
If anything, this Lol makes a joke of how desperate Bush might get to keep his pet war running. Sorry, I am not seeing it as insulting to the troops.
Carry on with your indignance though.
um. yes.
my opinion is in fact my opinion.
not sure where we got off on the whole “fact” part… but oh well…
Indignant troll is indignant.
I am going to take this moment to thank you for the back and forth since it gave my mind something to work on and we have reached a level of reason and decency. Thank you for not being a care troll, our sensors can be a bit sensitive at times so we can get false alarms from time to time.
And apologies.
do you mean censors or sensors?
and thanks to you too dwn.
if we didn’t argue with each other how would we truly know where our thoughts stand? if we did not sharpen our ideas through discourse how would we know that they are effective in battle?
Oooh, now I like you a lot. I find myself not impressed by people who can’t handle a challenge to their beliefs. If my beliefs are worth having, I can defend them.
And I meant sensors, like Trolldar. Oversensitive calibration, and all the problems that can incur.
i think i need to create some sort of sarcasm sign for me…
the censors/sensors thing was supposed to be a joke… but oh well…
Don’t worry, sometimes I am completely immune to humor. Isn’t your fault at all. Just my crappy attempt at counter humor.
I however will continue to hate you ubr for kicking my dog.
But he was a three headed hellhound that guards the gates to the Fortress of Doom, so only ONE of the heads was actually kicked.
You don’t find it unsettling, then, that we force our children to swear a loyalty oath at the beginning of school every day? You don’t think that bears even a slight resemblance to brainwashing?
n8, I think you’re losing it. You weren’t trying to use a
parallel example, were you? That would be *reasoning* with
ubr. I’d sooner want you trying to train a cat to bark.
*points to ubr’s two other posts*
wow. out comes the troll.
…aaaaand proof positive.
care to say something with actual content or?
No–Don’t want to make you look bad…
Look Rho! I think it’s trying to speak! C’mon, little troll! You can do it! I just know you can squeeze out a coherent sentence from between those flappy little lips!!
No, see, Rhorho is what we call a “regular”, and has some actual site-cred here. You, on the other hand… don’t.
so… what does it take to be a regular? i didn’t realize that there was a hierarchy here at pk…
i’ve put a couple pics on the front page… does that count?
Answer: The moxy you’ve shown thus far. No worries.
Basically, if you aren’t scared off AND you show you can play well with others (which you have) and you post at least semi regularly… you’re a regular. Your attitude about putting ideas out in order to strengthen them is a BIG plus. We like that. But we don’t like trolls, and you came off kinda trollish at first. S’okay, many regulars came off kinda trollish at first (me included). It’s how you react when we call you a troll that determines how easily you’ll be accepted. We take all flavors of political ideology here: I’m a far left social anarchist, froofrou is a right wing Christian, DWN is an… independent, Uncle Fester is a lefty curmudgeon, n8 is a lefty, Trainwreck Chaser is, hmm, right center I think? You and eddiepscetti will get along, he’s got a libertarian streak in him. There are currently more lefties than righties active here, so as a libertarian who’s not afraid to defend the honor of our people in uniform, you’d add balance if you decided to post more regularly. In any case, um, welcome to PK. We’re all crazy, but I think you’ll like it here.
I love the pause before my label. ^_^
I will second that he will like it down here. Down here, we all float…
So, if he adds balance as a Libertarian, does he then also fulfill the prophesy and bring balance to The Force?
In bed?
With a penis?
Juggling five ducks?
I MUST KNOW!!!
left-wing nut-job feels left out of Seth’s
roll call… has a *hmph.*
I don’t think Seth’s ever had an actual dust-up with you, rho. You’re too closely related in politics
don’t worry rho, i already pegged you as a left wing nut job…
and thanks for the warm welcome guys… being a libertarian
in the land of the lost is difficult… i live behind the orange
curtain and all my neighbors are red and all my friends are blue…
really hard to get a political idea across without someone
switching from an interesting debate to **** flinging…
So closely related that he *forgets* me?
His own rho?
Why doesn’t he call?
I sacrificed so much during his growing-up
years!
*throws self onto bed, buries face in pillow*
*gives rho a kleenix and a shot glass full of Jack*
*pats rho’s shoulder*
There there, dear. I’m sure he MEANT to call. I’m sure he just had other things that stood in his way. He does love you. I’m sure he’ll call you.
*dials Seth*
*whispers* (hey, we still on for tonight?)
*pats rho’s shoulder, offers another kleenix*
@ubr: Sorry–I forgot to refresh there.
Like you, I’m surrounded by “other kinders”
IRL, and love PK for the very reason you
noted.
You can peek from behind the orange curtain
as much as you like here.
Sorry rho, I left out a lotta people, no slight intended
Seth Speaks! [LINK]
(from the site’s first page): “…the information offered here by Seth / Jane is extremely articulate and clearly full of wisdom.”
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So, we have PROOF that Seth and Jane are who we think they are!!
*hugs froo; reads her post*
*reads the last part*
*downs shot of Jack; looks for rest of bottle*
(above at Froo’s post before her last one)
@ubr: this is why I love PK, we can discuss stuff here without resorting to insults. I feel exactly as you do, that putting our ideas out in a public forum and debating them makes for stronger, better, and more cohesive ideas. This place reminds me of the golden days of Usenet, before the September that Never Ended. (click my name if you don’t know what that means.)
Oh no. Seth Speaks. Seriously, I hate that book. The idea that everyone creates their own reality is corrosive. “Oh those poor impoverished people? Well, they chose to create that reality. Oh, you were raped? Why did you choose to create that reality?” It’s such a piss-poor rip-off of Buddhism, and misses the point of ‘creating your own reality’ completely. You don’t create ‘reality’ you create your own interpretation of it, your own story about what it all means. Gah, ‘Seth Speaks’ is the reason so many New Agers are actually selfish bastards at heart.
By the way, I just saw the link under you name in your last post, Seth. What the crap is My Little Cthulhu? LOL
@Seth: Glad you liked it.
(I just pasted it because of the title, Silly!)
@rho: I know, I know. Someone always has to mention that book. But nobody ever mentions Seth Thomas the clockmaker, and where would we be without his clocks? Still waiting for school to let out, is where.
Or this Seth (LINK)
AHEM. (love the name of his band, lol)
*is amazed at froo’s wide reference set
for Seth*
@Seth: You’re right. Forever I will think of
you in timeless terms.
Hmm, “shrill screaming… meant to either shock, offend, or
cause morbid humor” Sounds like my kind of guy
Or Yoko Ono.
Now I have an urge to find a New Ager and start beating them and breaking bones while crying out in horror. “Why are you doing that to yourself?!”
Though I think if I just slap them around while chanting, “Stop hitting yourself” might be just as fun though horrific might entertain me more.
Which does beg the question… If their point of view is that you make your own reality, does that make sex one big holographic bout of masturbation? Or is that some weird reality clash in their books?
@DWN: I had to work with an employer who made us all watch The Secret – more wish-fulfillment crap. My EMPLOYER!! Holy Garters of Betty Page, I was PISSED! And to hear it quoted at me after being handed a job with insufficient description (‘make it pretty’ – !!!WTF??!!) was enough to make me quit.
@pdq: So, I take it sitting there thinking “I wish I wasn’t sitting here watching this utter drivel” had no effect?
The failure of self wish fulfillment is that it is just an excuse for those who have to blame those who have not for everything that is wrong because they brought it on themselves.
Gotta love blame the victim thinking.
I am curious what you told him as you were quitting, dear pdq.
Oh, he ended up being a decent argue-er, which we can always use around here. Got off to a rough start is all. By my right of being Duchess of Weird, I declare him a Not-Troll-Type person.
*taps ubr on shoulder with gaff instead of smiting*
Seconded.
thx…
i feel all warm and fuzzy inside now…
You still… kicked…. my…. dog….
Due to the entirely slack usage of Roger’s Rules,
I hereby declare ubr officially nontrollish.
*looks around for gavel; substitutes shoe*
*SLAM!!*
So noted. *makes note in the minutes*
*draws weird porn in the hours*
*mulches garden in the days*
*bathes dog in the months*
*roughs out design for a crossword puzzle in the years*
*begins writing out a cake recipe in the fortnights*
The pledge of allegiance always bugged me.
Honestly, I never gave it a lot of thought. It was just something you DID. Like answering at roll call.
requiring kids to pledge allegiance to “liberty and justice for all” doesn’t seem like a bad thing to me… but that’s just me…
I can see it both ways. Saying the allegiance was all very mechanical, but it’s that sort of thing that never leaves, and can be considered rather brainwashy. . The message might be nice, but the method is questionable.
Lewis Black said it best… By the time you understand the Pledge, you are old enough not to say it anymore. So yes, indoctrination instead of anything useful.
Lewis Black says so many things best.
Lynn won tickets to see him live a couple years ago. We went and it RULED! Dave Attel was there too. XD
I might listen to some of his old rants since I lack new rants tonight.
I saw George Carlin a year before he died when he came to Asheville.
So.. I really only have one thing left to do… meet my lord and
Savior Chris Walken.
…….because he’s FAST.
@Max: I’ve got a fever, and there’s only one cure…MORE COWBELL!!!
One Nation, under angry invisible Sky-Daddy…
…and lusty fur balls.
With a penis in a public bathroom.
Dearest Rho, you’ve caused me to laugh aloud with mirth and merriment. My neighbors will think me mad… and perhaps they’ll be on to something.
will give you a wider berth now. It worked
for me!
Oh my…I chuckled aloud at work. Hand Rhorho the “Double Entendre of the Day” award! Congrats!
Thank you, Dear! IRL, I have a meeting
this afternoon that opens with the PoA.
I can’t wait!!!
*rehearses new line*
TERRORISM!
Liberty and Justice being subjective terms depending on those in charge. One Nation, Under God. Which is a religious statement for those who might not even have religion.
Then again, I did actually remember all the words.
I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One Nation, indivisible with Liberty and Justice for all.
So no, you are’t pledging allegiance to Justice and Liberty. You are pledging to the Flag of the US. In all fairness, we haven’t shown liberty and justice for all in eons let alone pledge to it.
But keep dreaming, it keeps you young.
“Under God” was added to the PoA in 1954, 42
years after it was originally written. Under my
name is a short history of the PoA.
Check that: *62* years after
Now I feel sorry for the writer… Idiots, bigots, and zealots marred his work.
what’s even worse is that the addition of “under God” was originally meant to quote the Gettysburg Address which uses the words “under God” to mean “God willing”… puts a completely different spin on the meaning of the phrase…
Wow–never heard that before. That does
cast a new light on it…
My grandmother used to say under god when she was literally
meaning god willing. So my view on the PoA has always been
a bit *tilts head to the side like Stewie Griffin* askew…
You mean like this? [LINK]
Oh damn! If my cat looked at me like that I might die from laughing. WTF?
If you put a stupid sun visor on your cat,
I bet you would receive *at least* that
look…
Now that I look it over again, I feel I am missing something…
Crap! Busted!!
*returns stolen internets*
*rolls in internets* Wooooo!!!
*mutters*
…woulda gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t
for that meddling Pledge…!
*takes Rho to jail for hot lesbian prison sex*
*breaks away, after thought of girl troll
possibly being one of the inmates*
*runs for life, liberty and the pursuit of
justice, freedom and the American way*
*gets thirsty; dashes into Starbucks*
i disagree… i don’t find liberty and justice to be subjective terms, but rather absolutes…
but hey, i’m a libertarian… go figure…
Really? I think that while it’s possible that liberty and justice can be defined in absolute terms, generally your concept of what liberty and/or justice means is going to be framed by your own situation, which would in general tend to make them subjective terms.
Two people going against each other in court are going to have very different ideas about what “justice” means in terms of the outcome, correct?
Liberty can never be an absolute. You always need to give up one kind of liberty (say, the liberty to smack me in the face) in exchange for another kind of liberty (not being smacked in the face.) Some people feel the focus of liberty should be on positive freedoms (freedom TO) while others focus on negative freedoms (freedom FROM.) Justice can not be absolute either, unless one has access to perfect information, not just about the past, but about the future, too. So your post is semantically equivalent to saying, “I haven’t really thought coherently about liberty and justice at all.”
The basis of our legal system is based off a subjective interpretation of the law and what justice is. Which is why we put a neutral party in who really can’t be neutral and expect neutrality.
Liberty is only as absolute as you can afford for it to be. Diss already covered the issue about justice.
excellent point…
i believe that their opinion of what justice is would be subjective in that one instance, but justice by definition means “the upholding of what is just, especially fair treatment and due reward…” which is a rather absolute term…
Liberty and justice…both excellent goals, anyway. Gives us a lot to strive for.
Ah but what is fair is still subjective. What you think is fair and what I think is fair might be two different things and we both could have very damn good reasoning behind it too.
i second that…
“the upholding of what is just, especially fair treatment and due reward”
That really isn’t absolute at all.
For instance, do you believe it is just to lock someone’s head in an uncomfortable iron contraption that holds their tongue? I should think not, however there was a time when this sort of thing was a just punishment and due reward for those that spoke heresy, or for women that had loose tongues..
It’s perfectly fair, they had a fair chance not to speak against the church.
Is it just to have your hand cut off for stealing, there are those that believe so. Justice is a matter of culture and what a group of people choose to accept as just or fair.
if justice is relative does it really exist at all?
It exists because we say it does and only because we desire some sense of balance in our lives. Animals don’t worry about justice, they just worry about they can and can’t do. Nothing more or less. I find that reality doesn’t really care about justice or liberty or anything of the sort.
What DWN said. We have plenty of abstract concepts that exist but are relative.
Very odd and somehow poignant how many of our ideals only exist because we say so. Equality only exists as a legality, legality only existing because we crave order as a species, order only existing to limit the damage we do to each other.
It is why atrocities (another relative concept) bother us so. Because they exist outside our notions of right and wrong. Even then we are still speaking from our limited viewpoints. Granted, I am not saying we need to cast off these constructs as I am not in the mood to build a fortress to protect my family just yet.
Money is very real and very abstract at the same time. Only has value because we say so. And so on and so forth.
I hold to the idea that it’s all a matter of defense as a species, and the cognaive thought messes with instinct. I think the concept of right and wrong is instinctual, we have social taboos that prevent a mainstream activity that would ruin the society, for instance if murder was okay, too many murders would occur and we would kill ourselves off, I believe this happens in nature as well to a certain extent, one does not kill off a member of their group for no reason. In the cases of societies sacrificing others, or canabalism, such a death was a high honor, ofte they used outsiders, and it wasn’t constant, the deaths would be lower than the new lives coming in.
We come up with more rules later, to make our own society and lifestyles comfortable, and that is where it becomes the most relative. The less crucial it is to a functioning society, the less likely it is a widespread idea.
Didn’t Hammurabi and Moses come up with the most complete set of laws? And roughly about the same time? *trying hard to remember history class*
i just have a hard time coming down with a useful observation about justice that doesn’t show it to be absolute… in my mind justice must be absolute because if it is not how can it then be just? in the real world it is very true that justice has been (mis?)represented in many different fashions but at the same time the definition of justice is something absolute…
but i do see the truth in what you say, dwn… i just refuse to believe it… (joke)
Everything is relative. But relative to what? You and I may differ on what is fair: you have your value system and I have mine. But we are part of a culture that has a defined ideal of justice. That ideal supersedes our individual ideals of fairness, because we have agreed to let it. That’s part of being a citizen. On a larger scale, almost every human being is born with an innate sense of justice, a desire to punish unfair behavior, and a desire to reward fair behavior. We are social animals and that is simply an effective strategy for social animals. So above every individual cultural ideal of justice, there is an innate human ideal of justice. Beyond that, we can imagine an ideal of justice that encompasses all sentient beings, even if we might not know exactly what it is yet. So even though the concept of justice is not absolute, it is a valid and useful concept. Of course, that is my conception of a non-relative justice. Theists usually consider justice to be absolute, derived from
Divine justice. But there are many kinds of theists, so it is still relative, isn’t it?Others derive the concept of absolute justice from a set of axioms, for instance the ‘Natural Rights.’ But the system derived depends oin the axioms chosen, and THAT is relative. There do appear to be some absolutes,at least as measured by what we actually see in human cultures. Pretty much everyone agrees that the golden rule is fair. So is tit-for-tat. Be nice to the source of thy nookie is also pretty universal. So is justice absolute? I guess that depends on what you mean by absolute…
Is that wall really there, or am I just imagining it? LOL
Didn’t mean to silly up your logic 
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Sorry Seth
The law against murder is instinctive due to self preservation and leaders thinking ahead. And now I will destroy any cred I had by mentioning a video game example, Assassin’s Creed.
“Nothing is true, Everything is permitted.” That proverb is a theme in the game and the explanation is that Law exists not because of a divine hand but because of reason. Which ties into what you said.
Certain laws are logical and thus present in most cultures because if they weren’t mainstream, nothing could progress. Besides, I could counter the murder law with the fact that we find glory in battle and there is technically no difference in murder and war besides numbers. Even the justifications are similar.
People murder out of revenge, perceived gain, and/or psychopathic behavior. Granted I know I missed some but still the fact remains that war and murder are pretty much the same thing just with different reasons. I am not against war or even murder because some murder is just self defense.
“Be nice to the source of thy nookie”
is quite possibly the funniest thing i’ve heard in ages…
And, paraphrased for DWN, don’t forget to feed the hand that bites you…….
I stole that line from George Carlin’s bit about the ten commandments.
DWN…
your point is very well taken… i see how certain laws that have been ingrained in our civilization are necessary. but i don’t think that really has any relation to justice… justice to me means that everything has been weighed and balanced so that things are equal on all parts… the old blind justice statue is a perfect image for this… there should be no difference in the scales and they should tip in the same direction regardless of where the scales are located…
that is why i’ve never really put any stock in the historical view of justice where the past is put under a microscope of what was considered “just” at the time. in my opinion the things that are usually pointed out as being “just” at the time were monstrous injustices… but i also know that in the future some of the decisions that our culture has made (prop 8 for instance) will be considered just as monstrous…
i guess the conclusion that i’ve come to is that justice is an absolute. it just happens to not actually exist in the real world.
@DWN
I may have a different definition of murder. I have always seen murder as an inside thing. when one kills a member of a group that they are a part of it is murder, and it is damaging. In the case of war it is different because they are two separate groups. There’s also a lot of dehumanization in war, and I believe it was developed to get over the anti-murder instincts. It is us or them, they are not a person, with a family, and a cause, they are the evil nazis, yankees, redcoats, whatever derogatory enemy name we come up with to identify them it marks them as less than human, out of the same group, it is no longer murder.
We find the idea of honor in war because you are protecting your group, against the other and preserving the society is a good thing.
In the case of a housewife murdering a cheating husband, both wife and husband are part of our society, neither was doing anything that would end the society, therefore the death of the husband is unjust (even if the wife personally justified it to herself)
Here is the rub, dear FailV. Murder is simply murder. The taking of a human life. We justify it by breaking it down into different types of murder wherein we try to make it “not murder” but at the very end, it is still life taking. No way around it.
I also challenge you that any taking of life is drastic and damaging. However it is perspective as to who it damages, isn’t it? That is why we exalt in war but recoil from Bundy. However, there are wars without a protection motif with just as much honor. You can get medals in an unjust war. You can get awards for doing your duty even if it lacks “honor” which is another construct to give positive reinforcement for a task most find unsavory.
There is honor in battle because we recoil from murder thus we need an idea to make murder of a “them” to be okay. I challenge you to truly make me believe that murder isn’t simply the taking of a human life by another human. War is murder on a scale beyond imagining that is why we call it war.
Even your own statement simply reinforces my own. They dehumanize them in their own minds but that is just in their own minds… Redcoats still had families and human lives to lose. It was still murder. Justified even possibly necessary, but still murder.
My views on capital punishment and being cold blooded aside, call it what it is. I support capital punishment if they actually do it right in the courts but I still understand that it is a form of murder, no matter how just it may be.
ubr…
And that is why I find justice subjective by means of technicality. It is about balance but balance is decided by the times, places, and culture. It is never absolute and never will be. A thief steals more than just possessions when he invades a home. However the other things he takes can’t be measured as some people will be scared for months and years while others won’t bat an eye. The damage done can’t be absolute as it is perspective that reasons out what is damaged. A murder might matter to one group and mean little to another depending on who is killed.
Justice is blind but money talks. As long as there is people, justice will be subjective because balance is subjective. So you can define justice as absolute because it IS balance. However what balances what will never be absolute.
I agree with you actually murder is murder, I was just pondering over the morality of it and why murder is wrong, but in battle it’s alright, and it’s the dehumanization. I actually hope that human beings do reach a point where all people are accepted together and we stop dehumanizing one another. It seems to me as soon as someone is accepted as being, not ‘them’ the rights and freedoms that we hold extend to them. It takes a while by the standards of a lifetime, but in the timeframe of history it isn’t that long at all.
so anyway, yes murder is killing another human being, i was just pondering earlier how we go against the instinct by warping our own minds and making up new rules so that it’s okay.
No worries, my babbling sometimes gets ahead of itself and forgets that I am probably just aggressively aggreeing with you. >_>
I do that quite a bit. I’ve spent hours debating with someone, only to find we were just agreeing…it’s quite a bit of fun really.
It’s bugged me for a while, actually, since about eighth grade. The ideals are nice, yes, but it feels like it goes beyond that. Of course, a lot of patriotic things bug me. For instance, the saying “I’m proud to be an American.” I am not proud of it because it’s not something I had any hand in achieving. I’m very grateful to have been born here, don’t get me wrong, and I think it’s a great place overall, but I think I’d be more proud to be an American if I’d had some more active role in becoming so.
Seconded. I didn’t fight to be an American. It is a quirk of birth, one I am happy for, but not an accomplishment to be proud of in my opinion since I didn’t DO anything.
Exactly. If I had worked and saved for years, finally got my visa, came here and took a job, studied hard and passed the citizenship test? You bet your wang I’d be proud to be an American. As it is, I’m quite pleased to be an American, but don’t see it as an accomplishment, any more than I’d be proud to have brown eyes or be right-handed.
I will go a little farther and say that taking “pride” in anything that you got in the genetic crapshoot (e.g. being black, or gay, or female) is a truly inappropriate use of the word and annoys me.
Patriotism – the delusion that ones place of birth has a cosmic significance.
Couldn’t agree more.
In the state of Indiana all schools are required BY LAW to say the pledge of allegience AND have a moment of silence every school day.
You have to do WHAT???
U.S. school children recite the Pledge of Allegiance at
school (or at least they used to):
“I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands
One Nation, under God, indivisible
with Liberty and Justice for all.”
Unless impaired, all stand, facing a flag with right hands
on chests.
The Pledge is also said at the beginning of some formal
meetings for adults. IMO, it’s used as a device to order,
separating pre-event chit-chat, etc. from the meeting,
or school day, etc.
^as a device to *establish* order–sorry!
Most teachers at my school don’t make us, though. My homeroom teacher asks that we stand as a sign of respect, but we don’t have to say it.
I understand that Jehovah’s Witnesses fought against having their children compelled to recite the PoA, and there are certainly other exceptions. I didn’t want to reply a simple question with a text wall, though.
And then there are contrary little nizzlefluters like me…
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Totally understood about the text wall, though. It’s been so serious around here lately.
True that!
Quakers don’t either – recite the Pledge, that is, not text-wall. The kids are given the option these days – or at least it’s not generally taken ill if the parents object on behalf of their kids. I had a long think about it and eventually shrugged it off. My son’ll get it eventually.
Glad you clarified, because those Quakers
and their text walls–Don’t get me started…!
You ain’t seen NOTHIN’ till you seen the Letters to the Editor @ Friend’s Journal. GAK!! We Quakers are, as a group, waaaaaay too earnest. I try hard to not merely break, but bury that model ;>
Quakers are dangerous seditionists, almost terrorists, at least based onthe amount of surveillance that the FBI commits to them.
Those pacifist beliefs are, apparently, almost as dangerous to the ‘American way’ as a pipebomber…
Well you know where you stand with a pipebomber. it’s those sneaky pacifists, fooling everyone until they’re ready to strike.
…and they’re so nice, too. All that friendli-
ness and caring for others. Yep, something’s
up with them…
*eyes pdq suspiciously*
Ya when I was a Witness as a kid, I didn’t do it. Despite leaving that faith, I held onto the idea that the Pledge to the Flag was a form of idolatry if one wanted to be technical.
I recall being punished for not saying it – no recess, a trip to the disciplinarian, etc. What’s more, when I went to school in Texas, we had to pledge allegiance to the state of Texas, too, and I refused because I HATED it there. I didn’t get to go outside all year.
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Which is exactly why I am against the pledge of allegiance.
It’s alwas been that first line that got me; pledging to a FLAG?!?!?? One nation, freedom, justice, etc is fine; pledging even to the Republic is almost sorta OK, but why in FSM’s Vast Pot O’ Pasta should I give a rip about a rag waving in the breeze?
In earlier years it was probably easier to respect
the awesome work it took to sew all those stars
onto that thing.
It takes me forever to replace a button…
*with nose in air* Weeelllll, dahlink, I’m a graduate of the Beeton School of Needleworkerydom and it takes more than a few stripes to impress ME *shows off the tapestry on wall* I finished off this while I awaited the birth of my son – labor was so dull, so very time-consumingly tedious, I rahlly had nothing better to do *tapestry depicts a haloed fish leaping out of a lake which is surrounded by Native Americans of peculiar beauty, all of whom are making love to each other* It’s entitled, Last Thoughts of General Custer.
*stands, with right hand over heart*
I pledge allegiance to the tapestry
of frollicking Native Americans
And to the Needleworkery so truly intense
One Custer, under duress,
with fish, and displayed on the wall.
I had this discussion with an englishmen, he thought it was odd, that we pledge our allegiance to a flag of all things, and they have the queen. I was under the impression that the countrymen, at the time of the founding of the united states, were discouraged from putting faith in one figure head, they’d pledged to the king and it didn’t go well, so the flag was what all the states came together under. It truely is the symbol of America, more than and person could be, that’s why we pledge to it, instead of the president or whatever. human beings are flawed, fragile creatures, the state and the ideals the flag represents are as eternal as mankind at least.
or it could be something else, i’m curious myself really.
This is where you can say that at least a Flag only represents what you want it to represent. A queen is just a person born into their position, most likely inbred as well. If I was going to pledge to anything, I would choose a symbol over a wad of genetic material with a pedigree. If I want something with a pedigree, I’ll get a purebred dog, even then I prefer a mutt.
Absolutely!
It’s not like the Queen does anything. It’s just that some ancestor was smart enough to be a decent warlord and another married the right person…
Heh, pretty much. The apples can and do have a tendency to fall very far from the tree in terms of ability.
“protect your rights as an american.”
Which of our rights as Americans are being threatened by Iraq?
you should ask the congressmen and senators that actually voted on going to war. i wasn’t one of them.
Asking you since you said our rights needed protecting. Care to back up your words?
forums are a great thing. you can actually go back and see what people wrote earlier.
do you see anythingi said justifying the war in iraq?
and are you really that naive that you don’t believe there are people in the world who want to hurt us simply because we’re americans?
Ah, so the paranoia defense. Well I believe that there are people in the world who want to kill me simply because I have long hair and believe in actual equality. Hell, I’ll bite and say we do need an army.
However, I also believe that nothing in this lol attacks soldiers. It attacks a man who would do anything if he thought he could get away with it. Besides, most of the soldiers I know went in because they wanted help with college.
So you continue thinking about how mean we are being to soldiers, people who by their nature are supposed to be the toughest Nizzlefluters on the planet.
I will state that you technically didn’t say anything about Iraq. Fail on me.
and with that statement i insist that our opinions disagree. which in no way negates the validity of either position…
and to further clarify how/why i came to my opinion…
i have seen lots of propaganda lately that should be directed at the governement and elected leaders of our country but is misguided and aimed instead at the troops, who are ordinary citizens just like us… it infuriates me… if i misinterpreted the intentt of this caption then i apologize…
Okay, you know how to play nice! Good. I retract my accusation of you being a care troll. Nobody here was trying to disrespect the troops. That was not the intent of the caption.
No harm, no foul. I found myself being PAINFULLY defensive which caused a fight with rhorho on here yesterday. Worry not, we’re irked and aiming at Bush. Our troops have our love and appreciation, especially in this task that nobody sane would have wished upon them.
It gets rather convoluted too since it is a serious matter of hate the sin and love the sinner. Our troops didn’t ask for the war we are against. They are following orders and can only do the best they can in their interests and what they believe is in the best interests of their country.
It is the leaders who have at least my ire in that I find their motives questionable at best and despicable normally. Let alone the methods being asked of our soldiers to use. If anything this picture reminds me of what corruption Bush/cronies put into our army with their dictates and rhetoric.
But alas, I ramble. Forgive me.
no need for forgiveness…
quite an effective and eloquent ramble i must say…
Many thanks and I appreciate your grace with our coal raking.
I like what everyone has said, but just want
to assert a small followup:
To my knowledge, nobody on PK has ever
said anything bad about the troops. We all
know they are doing excellent work.
I understand your fury at any effort to
downplay what our guys and gals do.
I think you’ll find a nice atmosphere here
in that regard.
true…
but being that i used to be in the service (and still have lots of friends in) i find it hard to not take the offensive when i think they might be slighted…
which came off sounding rather defensive…
i shall watch my tongue with more zeal in the future..
And to lighten the mood in my own asinine way…
In bed…
@ubr: When DWN writes “in bed…” after
something you say, it’s a compliment…
sort-of…
More like I found things being too serious, being a twit, or because I find the juxposition of the wording to be funny. Even if only to me.
I didn’t know it was your way of monitoring
seriousness.
Shucks, I just thought you liked me…
I mostly do it for the juxposition with my lolz in mind. I’m a jerk like that. But I try to be a fun jerk though… >_>
Okay, so you do like me, then. Good.
*takes crotch pin out of VooDoo doll*
Feel better?
*falls over on the floor* Oh god…. thats so much better…
The hair Rho…. the hair was too short!! My poor crotch…..
*weeps*
I’m always mixing up those darn things!
*examines doll*
Yes, this was yours… I remember having to
shave it when you got rid of your beard…
*puts aspirin in VooDoo doll’s mouth and
lays doll in foetal position on pillow*
Gee, Max. Really feeling awkward here…
Sorry?
Bless your little Polly-Anna heart. It’s just DWN’s version of ‘First!!1′…
Thank you, Unc!
Glad to see you back, and in good form!
I was wondering if he and slan had hooked up but I see that theory is right out.
They would look cute together, but Auntie
would probably object.
Or be painfully relieved.
“forums are a great thing. you can actually go back and see what people wrote earlier.”
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Here are your exact words, via the magic of copy’n'paste:
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“by making any sort of comments that the president of the united states is coercing little kids to join the military shows a complete lack of respect for the people that volunteered to go out and protect your rights as an american.”
My conclusion that you stated that the military was protecting our rights was based on your above statement that the military is protecting our rights. That seems pretty self-explanatory to me. So, to repeat my question, could you back up your assertion with examples of which of our rights were/are threatened by Iraq?
*waits for either a deafening silence, or bollocks that boils down to oil*
(in bed, with a penis, etc… just to pre-empt ‘First!!!111one’)
*bollocks boil down to oil silently*
It could be read that way, but it could also be read (as I did) in a more general sense that the mission of the armed forces (or one of the missions of the armed forces) of our country is to protect its citizens from harm. That’s not mission-specific to where they may be deployed at any particular time; were there to be a sudden domestic threat, I think we’d see that the military would, in fact, be there protecting our rights as Americans.
In other words, the way I see it, the mission of protecting our rights is not always going to overlap with whatever they are currently deployed to accomplish, but the mission of protecting our rights is always there in addition.
@Unc: I’m going for “deafening silence.”
@diss: Except for the “threatened by Iraq”
specific in the question, I understand what
you’re saying.
Not as many as the rights that were threatened by Dubyah….
“comments that the president of the united states is coercing little kids to join the military shows a complete lack of respect for the people that volunteered”
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Or, or… it could be interpreted as implying that there’s no limit as to how low he’d stoop to keep his pet war/goldmine for Halliburton and Blackwater/daddy issues going.
Really, after the enormity of the lies that got us into this clusterf&ck in the first place, what makes you think he’d be above feeding grade schoolers into the same meat grinder if he thought he could get away with it?
“In My Humble Opinion” is generally a decent warning that what follows is generally not particularly humble. Thanks for keeping that one up.
It’s like ‘not wishing to be offensive’, as a lead in to ‘but God’s teeth, you’re ugly!’
In the South (U.S.), it’s “Bless his/her/your heart,” then
any nasty comment is allowable:
“Bless her heart, but her back side looks like two pigs
fighting under a blanket!”
I always preferred “Two bulldogs trying to fight their way out of a sleeping bag”…
Two Beetles (VW) jockeying for parking under a tarp
or
Two midgets wrestling under a blanket…
On the East Coast, it’s any statement starting with, “No offense, but…”
In the South, it’s any statement ending with, “…bless her heart.”
Or, ‘…I’ll pray for him/her/you.”
you can usually hear the implied ‘to die and go to hell where you’ll burn for ever and then Jesus and me… well, we’ll laugh and point…’
of course… I could just be paranoid about that. I’m the first to admit it.
Oh no, you’re right on the money. Many’s a dirty ‘go to hell’ stare been shot after the person for whom you just said ‘I’ll pray for you.’ Gee, I love my religion sometimes….
I’m paranoid about that, too. In one instance,
a relatively psychologically messed up person
told me that she was going to pray for me.
My knee-jerk thought was, “Who’s praying for
her, because she needs to switch!”
No wonder my grandmother keeps telling me she’s praying for me.
Well, if you would start by doing anything
right, she could take a break…
(I have an aunt like that.)
She just out of nowhere once exclaimed, “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, You walk like a herd of elephants!” I was like, what?
We created new swears just for you to use on her, Jane.
LOL–That sounds like something my aunt
would say, between telling my mom how to
cook and bragging on her idiot son.
Care Troll cares a LOT.
so basically the whole gist of the argument in this comment thread is:
you don’t believe what we believe therefore your position is not valid.
cool. good to know the ground rules.
Do you realize how common it is for some random loser to come on here and shout “NOT FUNNY?” That’s what a care troll is. They don’t really care, they just want to get people riled up. You still haven’t explained why you care, so the assumption is you don’t, and you are just trolling.
nope. i didn’t actually… haha… this is one of the first lols i actually felt like commenting on…
Well, don’t let us scare you off! You defended yourself gamely after you got jumped on.
i will be sure to come around more often so that you can get used to my version of sarcasm…
Just a tip, okay? (I’m still not sure that you don’t
bite.)
If you label your sarcasm like you did your rant,
you ought to be in great shape, and welcome.
lol.
thx rho.
*hugs ubr* Cheers!
@ubr
I’d check your pockets now… she’s either taken your wallet or planted used ginger on you…
Fester will be wanting the ginger back though…
Unc, since when do you tip-off n00bs to
hazing stunts?
DWN, Unc’s not the kiss-and-tell type.
Never said he was. Somehow I doubt he kisses the ginger… *shudder*
Nothing on here is in poor taste- unless it makes fun of the Chosen One.
Pfft, I have lolz that make fun of him. They’ll just never see the light of day unfortunately.
yeah, it would be nice to see a smattering of lols for all sides…
what happened to the fairness doctrine?
Private site, different rules apply.
“Fairness Doctrine” went out with the Patriot Act….sorry
*crawls back into hermetically sealed, flame retardant box*
Now why would you go and put hermit seals in a box with flaming retards?
*shoos ubr out of eponymous’s box*
*grabs Seth and gives him lovin’ for being such a WIN all by himself*
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hehehe.
Hey, get off of my lap, froo. You’re smothering the poor
fella…
*checks Seth to make sure he’s okay*
How do you seal a hermit?
Silicone caulk works best, although I’ve heard of people having some success with duct tape.
Privately. Owned. Website.
They can post whatever the heck they want to, like it or not.
is sarcasm really dead?
*checks pulse*
Nope.
It can be hard to “get” when written out, though, ’specially when we don’t know you.
Well, Fester hasn’t posted in a few days. Coincidence?
And Jane is gone, too. Coincidence?
God I hope not.
LOL, you mean you hope *so,* right?
Hey! That’s not right! :p School started Monday and while my darling little angels and I parted ways, I am now working on a reading certification which requires being at the school from 7:45 in the morning till about 4:00 in the afternoon, so I don’t get on PK till late. Also, I had problems earlier in the week with PK freezing all the time.
Sure, sure, make excuses for not wanting to play with us *goes and pouts*
Oh oh oh!!! I also became an aunt again today! My niece, Esme, was born this morning!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell me the kid was named Esme and THAT”S IT, and not some god-aweful version of ‘Renneseme’.
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I like the name Esme, not so much the other one
anyone else thinking of Granny Weatherwax?
Personally, I was thinking the GAWDAWFUL conclusion to the ‘Twilight’ series that I hated so much that I wanted to burn the book and dance around the bonfire nekkid in protest.
Oh aye. Cheap plot devices enabling happy endings left, right and centre… The Volturi losing all villain kudos… Vampireness being ridiculously easy… All that “drama” on the island… Bella crying at her own wedding (that’s cringey just to read about)….
*Joins froo (with clothes on (it’s cold today))*
No, she is just Esme, and in fact, they have never, nor will they ever, read Twilight. When they found out there was a character in Twilight named Esme they almost didn’t pick it. Since my s-i-l’s choice was Enid, I’m glad they stuck with Esme. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Barenaked Ladies as much as the next person who names themselves after one of their songs, but I’m not fond of the name Enid for real.
dances with froo and AC. it’s snowing here so i’m wearing my winter boots, k? as for the conclusion i wanted a total bloodbath with only like 3 people surviving. silly mormons and their happy endings. blech.
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jane – glad they went with esme rather than enid… not a *bad* name, just rough saddling a kid with it.
He’ll have his turn, trust me.
*removes self from AtlasShrugged’s lawn*
That’s just strange to try and say “AtlasShrugged’s”
Wow–You’re right! I just had to spit after trying twice.
(Watch it, DWN!)
Watch what exactly?
How sexually desperate do you people honestly think I am? O_O
Don’t let him fool you he’s a hound And I love every bit of that hound ^w^
… *grumbles*
Crazy woman… Giving away my secrets…
Get over yourself, ubr.
as soon as you get over your chlimidea…
Chlamydia, but I think I like you
Shall we battle for his soul then?
Light sabres, guns, knives, or rubber chickens at dawn?
Naked, in a vat of warm custard, with sticky rubber worms stirred in… my favourite field of honour…
I thought you preferred wearing crotchless buttered Lurex
in an anti-gravity chamber with sticky steamed rice.
So wrestling and grabbing random rubber worms for impromptu weapons. Got it.
Okay, I get that this has been pretty hashed out by now, but I’m going to channel HHNF and say that when I showed this to my brother, who just came back from Iraq (it’s on my myspace so it MUST but true!) he laughed REALLY hard. So did my dad, a retired LTC.
The look on his face made me favorite this. Reminds me of George Carlin.
“They want live babies to make dead soldiers…”
May his atheist soul fester peacefully in the ground. I would have sworn in his honor but PK would have eaten the post.
We just need some new vulgarities that the filter won’t have heard of yet.
I choose “clemen.”
I like Nizzleflute.
“Slinch”
Smegma
Ya she is a real smegma who I think needs a good nizzlefluting right up her slinchy clemen.
That’s slinched-up, DWN…I’ve known her a long time…her clemen hasn’t been slinchy since she started using a tagfrotter!!
Nizzleflute me, I wasn’t informed. Nobody ever gives a fudpucker about telling me this things before I make a slinching smegma of myself.
I don’t know what it means, but the mental images are STILL nasty.
The whole swearing filter is a travashamockery.
Nizzleflute has a nice ring to it…lets see here…Oh nizzleflute! Nizzleflute you! You nizzlefluter! Did you see what that nizzleflute did? Ned got really nizzlefluted last night, shoved his keys up his clemen and tried to start himself. Yep…like it…lets keep it.
I know jack and slinch about what that nizzlefluter did. He can show it up his nizzlefluting slinch face clemen for all I give a nizzleflute.
I’m definitely satisfied. I’m heading off to court for one of the kids I work with. I might have to fire of a “nizzleflute” to the judge…I’ll let you know how it went when I get back. By the way, anyone know what the sentence is for telling a judge he’s a nizzlefluting-slinch? DWN do you have bail money just in case?
I lack bail money but oodles of love and support.
*hangs head in uselessness*
*but have…
Useless and I fail. T_T
You can use my blankey if it’ll make you feel better…
No no. I got it for you. *sniffles* -_-
FYI – I didn’t get to use nizzleflute, but I did call him a fershtunken shicklegruber…then ran like hell.
*gives fifty interwebs*
He lies there as if infectous
His uselessness perplexes us
He refused my blankey
But maybe a little “spankey”
Will make a happy DeathWyrmNexus…
LOL Awesome!!! XD
Fershtunken… admirable! How ‘farbisseneh’? Gives me the shpilkes every time
Can I say skredankmah around here?
Why not?! You’re among friends…just don’t say anything around the shiksa and her putz husband.
*gives pdq family-size box of screen wipes*
I’m verklempt. Discuss among yourselves.
The Congressional Bailout is neither congressional nor a bailout.
Discuss.
Show all work; use second sheet if needed.
How about fudpucker? As in, “Don’t be such a fudpucker you clemen!”
It sounds good to me.
Stick up your clemen and spin, you nizzlefluting, slinch eating fudpucker!
Yaaa, good stuff.
EDDDDIIIIIEEEEE!!!!!
*tackle hugs Eds, licks face*
Yeah, welcome back, Eddie!
Awww, thanks! I’ve been lurking again and really haven’t had the time to post. But, I will say the discussions haven’t changed and are still quite amusing, intelligent, and everything else that makes this place fun.
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Happy New Year to everyone!
Now that we know you’re lurking, we’ll behave better, too!
Sure will. Want to buy a bridge?
)
EDDIE!!!!!!
i just pictured you as columbia from rocky horror picture show… the scene when eddie comes out of the deep freeze and she screams his name and jumps into his arms. unfortunately (fortunately?) now i’ll only be able to picture columbia when i see you posting!
Makes me glad that I have seen her before.
*is jealous*
the sequined top hat and coat with tails always made me a little wary…
Her daughter is adorable too.
i did see that… but i’m biased. my niece is cuter. always was and always will be!
however, i don’t think picturing her as columbia is 100% a bad thing. the voice was annoying and the outfit over the top, but she had a cute figure and wasn’t ugly (just needed to do makeup by anything other than paint by number).
Wasn’t dissing Columbia. Just babbling, like always.
*humming to self*
Let’s do the timewarp again….
i would dance with you but i think if i got up on my desk and took a jump to the left my coworkers might just go to my boss and report me as officially having lost it… might not be a bad thing… medically necessary vacation??
It’s the step to the right that always gets me in trouble…
(skipping ahead) the pelvic thrusts would probably cause the most trouble here in my office. it’s a bit prude-ish. not to mention the issues it may or may not bring up with DWN. *wink**wink*
>_>
Huh?
<_<
pelvic thrusts… get it? get it?
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it’s ok, it was a lame attempt at a funny anyway. i’m well past the time that i should have gone home and walked away from the computer, but the bosses claim 5pm is that deadline. *pbbbt*
I understand pelvic thrust, I just don’t get why it would bring up an issue with me… Takes more than a vague sexual reference to light my fires, babe.
explaining a funny kills any chance that it was funny to begin with
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that being said… i was figuring if MG and i started dancing we might get some other transylvanian PKers to join and who knows what that would turn into and what may occur that *would* light your fires.
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and i’m well aware that it takes a bit to get you going. you make no qualms about being very open about it. which is fine by me. the more people are open about what gets them going, the more fun they’ll all have. i’ve been with some guys who won’t say a thing and that’s just a) boring, b)bad sex.
Now there’s a lot of truth in that!
exactly! i’m not miss cleo… you gotta tell me what you like! otherwise i’ll do what i like and eff your needs.
Mmm, sorry. You put the image of a lone woman dancing in her office then getting embarassed. My fault, I had the wrong mental image. I should have had the girl on girl pelvic thrust image.
And for the record, I haven’t said much of anything about what gets me going on this site. I do talk about what gets Lynn going though. I am sneaky like that. ; )
I hear ya about people who won’t talk though. Gets very frustrating fast. @_@
hahahaha! ok, i get the confusion DWN. but i wouldn’t have gotten embarassed i’d wave my nerd flag high and keep dancing.
sneaky sneaky. although you did reveal that you gotta have a pulse… so you’re telling some of your secrets!
yeah, those non-talkers didn’t last long. fun once or twice but boooooring.
Pulse, I have mentioned clothes a couple times, a mild school girl fetish once or twice which Lynn loves to play, and that is about it. Most of what I talk about is stuff I do because Lynn digs it and I like making her happy.
I will admit there is a certain rush to being called Master and having power over somebody so I do get into the role but it isn’t my fetish, per say. However, Lynn would probably babble about my secrets if she was actually asked. Which is why I am hiding this thread from her with my magical mental powers of obfuscation.
*takes a big breath of air*
*leans way back*
LYYYYNN! LYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYNN!!!
*gasps for air – is out of practice at screaming at the top of my lungs*
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it’s only fair for her to spill the beans if you’re doing it too.
No no no… No beans to spill. Nope, none at all…
*points at bean on floor*
I think you dropped something there…
Oh it’s never fair beans! He’s master… And if Im Baaad and tell too much he’ll spank me ^_~
And anyway. He’s really simple… Willing, able, bring food… yea it really doesn’t take as much as he says it does. I like my simple man ^_^
Better than him wanting to do something weird like put me in a rubber banana suit!
>_>
Damn woman… spilling my beans…
<_<
*fist waving and revenge plotting as my mystique has been killed like pigeons versus a brat with a BB gun*
Ow, my beans!
DWN… get on that Banana suit idea…. do it for me DWN!! FOR ME!
*perks* Banana suit??!!?? DAMN!! *daydreams commence*
Crazy woman… Erasing my brain with epic orgasms… I’ll show her… *impotent fist waving and muttering*
I’m not funny when I am drunk with Orgasm!!!
*goes back to muttering*
Now I gotta get a banana suit for Max’s sake. Revenge on Lynn… In bed with a penis… Banana rubber penis…
*babble babble mutter*
oh, me either… just saying columbia isn’t bad looking so picturing froo as columbia isn’t that bad of a thing. just a very straaaaaaange thing.
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yet remarkably, i don’t picture eddie as meatloaf. hmm. weird.
Great…. Now I will.
lemme know how that one goes for you!
“the sequined top hat and coat with tails:
She earned that; the girl could TAPDANCE!!
*tackleglomps* Hey you! How have you been?
Holy nizzleflute!! How’s your fudpucker hanging, Eddie, you slinchy old son-of-a-clemen!!
The Ed-man returneth! Welcome back ya old clemen-sucker!
Eddie, you’re back! How was the move? You missed out on all the fun, crazy troll lady invaded, but then we had this awesome troll bashing party, and we LOLed, and we invented new uses for ginger and new bad words oh but you heard that part, and then Rho and DWN got in a fight, and we didn’t LOL, but they got over it and we all LOLed, and then we bashed more trolls and
*passes out from not stopping to take a breath*
*wakes up again*
*blink, blink* Eddie, you’re back! How was the move? You missed out on all the fun…
With a penis…
Thanks Seth.. the move was great! The wife’s family has taken to calling the new house the McMansion (which I don’t get), but I prefer House of Pscetti.
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Sorry I missed the troll-bashing party, but I’m sure everyone had a great time and it sounds like peace and order have been restored.
I choose “sifnuta”.
I don’t have a sifnuta clue what the nizzleflute you are talking about, woman…
You guys have all lost your bergaflickin minds!
That quote rings grimly true. *sigh*
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Seven words you can’t say on PK?
Sounds about right. Would make for a fun youtube if any of us was brave enough to get in front of a camera and do a skit…
I’m thinking of making a video of myself reciting the poem that mothergoose posted earlier, “Make the Pie Higher,” but I’d have to borrow a friend’s camera. I’ve been declaiming it for people all day.
Haha, make sure to link me on Gaia if/when you make it.
But then my mystique would be gone!
A woman never lacks mystique. Besides, you aren’t seducing me anyway. Why do you need mystique?
Wait a minute, given what I’ve read in the past, I didn’t think mystique was one of the top 20 qualifications for seducing DWN.
O_o…
I shudder to ask what you think is required to seduce me.
An active pulse…
Wow… Just… Wow…
Surely that’s a requirement, though? I would say it’s on my list.
Maybe it goes without saying, though.
*gives DWN hugs*
It’s ok, Wyrmie, dear…I kid because I care…you always hurt the ones you love…
@Diss: Good point. I did think a pulse was a normal requirement for interaction though… So yes, goes without saying.
@mothergoose: In bed… LOL
@Diss and DWN…unless the whole necrophilia thing is your bag…
@DWN…with a penis
*is relieved to confirm DWN definitely not a necrophiliac*
Ewwwwww, necrophilia… Ewwwww….
MG: Now you are just giving me too much credit…
No, diss dear… I like interaction with a living being. I have napped in graveyards but I draw the line at corpses. Actually I draw the line a number of steps before corpses as there is a number of other fetishes I won’t touch but that is another topic altogether.
So no, just no. Ewwwwwwwwwww…..
Talk to you nizzlefluters tomorrow.
*heads home to guzzle brain bleach to forget about bringing up necrophilia*
You have to admit, MG, you were the one that raised the pulse issue…
*waves ‘bye for the night!*
That she was. I has standards. High ones too. >_>
@DWN I’ve taken naps in graveyards too. People look at me very strangely when they ask me what I did the previous day and I tell them I napped in a cemetary. It’s sifnuta-ing annoying.
@charro: I found it very peaceful and helpful in giving perspective on life. There was graves all the way back to the Civil war in the one I visited. I was a very angsty and nearly dead teen though I was still humbled seeing a marker for a boy younger than my years in the ground before me. Then another and another. All dead in a war.
The strange looks bothered me not for I had gained what they had not. Perspective and how short life can truly be. I was always a bit odd though.
@MG
I think you’ll find it’s ’soft earth, fresh flowers, a warm night and a seculded part of the graveyard’
“I shudder to ask what you think is required to seduce me.”
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I’ll just take a guess here:
REAL whipped cream, not that gross non-dairy stuff.
I try not to mix food and sex though I did find out that I like to bite recently.
Glad I could help…now get back to your fudpucking English Project!
All I have to do now is memorize the poem…it’s for a national contest, so I’m really excited. It’s called Poetry Out Loud.
Best of luck…if there’s voting involved count me in…twice
Creepy pedophile-like leer, yr doin it rite.
I didn’t want to be the first to say it… He does have that mincing boy hungry look on his face though.
Dunno. I was thinking “dicing,” rather than “mincing.”
He kinda looks like he used his finger and not a spoon.
Poor Grandma! *sigh*
I think that one kid (under the “s” in “start”) knows exactly what
you’re talking about…
You’re right, he’s got that look!
Must have learned from our guys here?
There is an element of cruelty in accuracy, isn’t there?
And here he was going for “Friendly Pedophile.”
Creepy Dubya… Creepy.
The kid directly under “can’t start” is looking distinctly suspicious of the whole thing.
…but Georgie got to sit in the BIG chair, because he was the tallest boy in class!
…what you didn’t know was that Dubya wasn’t allowed out for recess because he kept taking little Julie’s Milk in the name of National Security, had little Hakeem sent to Gitmo, and then scared the class half-to-death with the whole “Are your mommy and daddy part of the Axis of Evil” thing.
But you know its all for libertification.
One word… strategery.
Side note: Does anyone remember that show “Lil Bush” that used to come on Comedy Central? That was amazing.
I loved that show! In my favorite episode, Cheney had to be aborted
after he was sucked into Barbara after a torrid rendezvous.
Good, twisted stuff! The Scooby Doo episode was fun, too.
Oh, I remember that one! It was such a great show. Has it been cancelled, or is it only on late at night? I haven’t seen it in ages.
I don’t know–Sorry!
The look on his face makes this pic.
It is why I just had to favorite it.
Yep, completely true, everyone knows he’s going to do this. Every liberal should freak out until January 20th.
How can you spot that TC is on board a jet?
It’s the one that keeps whining when the engines have been shut down.
As general comment; if you saw someone near a playground with that expression on their face, wouldn’t you sort of expect them to be at least moved on, if not a restraining order placed on them?
In a perfect world, yes.
IF anyone wants a really unfunny, sick caption, how about
“Hands up who wants Uncle George to show them what a ‘Bad Touch’ feels like?”
I confess, I flinched a little when I thought of that…
Didn’t even raise an eyebrow. I think your time off has made you slip a bit.
You mean you didn’t imagine him doing it to you? Girl
I have worse demons in my head than Bush, wimp.
Good one: All twitchy here!