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Don’t look at me! He’s the one that tried to sell my seat.

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  1. Bob says:

    “. . . I just had my people offer to pay him to put one of my favorites in it.”

  2. Joe_122 says:

    2nd! But FIRST to numerate myself!

  3. charro says:

    Twelvity fifth!

  4. kismet says:

    Hey, guys, I just woke up from my nice slumber under a rock, and I’m just not getting this…. Help a girl out here, huh? FTW is this about?

    • Momcat says:

      Good Morning! ! ! wake up time! ! !

    • Trainwreck Chaser says:

      Barack was a senator from Chicago, and an individual named ‘blagovich’ or something was selling the seat he was it. He was caught red handed and died it like the snake he is. Chicago politics are extremely dirty, and there is a possibility that Obama was involved some how.

      IT is highly unlikely he had much to do with it, but that doesn’t mean Obama doesn’t have dirty hands some where else.

      • Trainwreck Chaser says:

        I’ve never been known for my spelling.

        Blogovich (w/e, a snake is what he is) was selling the senate seat that barack had occupied.

        Denied, not died.

        • wundawomun says:

          LOL I was trying to figure out “died it like the snake he is” and took it as ‘dyed’ and tried to figure that out, like it was some kind of metaphor for covering up wrong doings. haha

      • PortlandMark says:

        “there is a possibility that Obama was involved some how. ”

        About equal to the possibility that Palin was involved in Senator Stevens’ felonies.

        “that doesn’t mean Obama doesn’t have dirty hands some where else.”

        Could you at least wait for evidence to surface? Especially since you’re among the group that lamented the “Bash Bush Crowd” for so long?

      • slan agat says:

        Rod Blagojevich, disaffectionately known to sports fans as B-Rod. Governor of Illinois.

        No question, Rahm Imanuel let B-Rod know who Obama would prefer to succeed him, but B-Rod’s on tape on phone calls saying Obama wouldn’t give him anything but appreciation for the appointment, so fnck him.

        The whole mess sheds no light on whether Obama has OR HAS NOT got dirty hands about anything else. TC is trying to cast aspersions and create suspicion in a way that does not require him to produce evidence and allows him plausible deniability, but that dog don’t hunt here. It’s a scumbag RNC tactic, and it’s beneath you, sir.

    • n8 says:

      Fut the wuck?

  5. Trainwreck Chaser says:

    It’s the Chicago ‘machine’ AND he’s a politician. His hands are dirty just like every other politicians. Just no one cares to look hard enough.

    • Steve says:

      If they’re all dirty, then why bother looking?

    • n8 says:

      Oh, is that the new repub mantra? Baselessly accuse Obama of being dirty because “they all are” …? Weak sauce, but if it’s all you’ve got…

      • Alden Bugly says:

        Why not? has been the Democrat mantra to blame GWB for everything. Turnabout IS fair play you know.

        • Sir Scarfalot says:

          perhaps that’s because it WAS his fault most of the time?

          New post BTW.

        • clamboy says:

          No it isn’t. If someone kicks your puppy, it is NOT proper for you to go kick his. Also, if someone who disagrees with you politically criticizes someone you support, without evidence, it is wrong to do the same thing to someone he supports.

          Or perhaps you think ethical behavior is for suckers. That certainly seems to be the mantra of much of American punditry.

        • n8 says:

          Well… it’s a matter of public record that GWB has been a colossal screw-up and turned everything he touched to crap, so that particular mantra has been pretty much justified. There is no case to be made that Obama is dirty in any way. It helps to have facts, if you don’t want to be dismissed as anything other than a party hack.

          • froofrou says:

            OBAMA might not be dirty. Rahm may actually show up on the FBI tapes. It will be interesting to see what’s there. I hope he wasn’t actually that stupid.

            • Ya I don’t think Obama is that stupid. Then again, I already have a headdesk ready in case he was.

              • froofrou says:

                Nono, I KNOW Obama isn’t that stupid. I’m hoping Rahm isn’t that stupid.

                • Ya, because his stupidity would reflect badly on the decision making ability of Obama’s team which was a selling point for electing him in the first place. Would unravel a lot of Obama’s credibility if Rahm was that stupid. So I will keep my headdesk in reserve, just in case.

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    One of the problems of being a evil genius is that you’re the smartest one in the room. You can only hire people who are dumber than you…

                    And never underestimate the stupidity of henchmen.

                    • Very sage words. I will keep them close to my chest and reference them frequently when I work on my conquest of the world…

                      *ponders*

                      • Uncle Fester says:

                        I favour the Machiavelli role. They seldom take deliberate pot shots at the man in grey at the back of the balcony, somewhere on the left…

                        • Good point but I like being active. Unfortunately that paints a damn target on my head…

                        • n8 says:

                          Unc, Karl Rove would like a word with you. The power behind the throne is fair game these days, as he could well attest.

                        • Uncle Fester says:

                          Karl Rove was too high profile… we all knew his name before it imploded on him…

                        • slan agat says:

                          Guys, it’s pretty certain Rahm is going to be on those tapes. What is not certain is what was said. If he’s on tape recommending a candidate but NOT offering any substantive emolument in return? Then he’s just doing his job, expressing hte boss’ wishes. I would be astonished if he DIDN’T do that much.

                          If no quid pro quo was offered from Rahm, nor explicitly asked from B-Rod and accepted from Rahm, there’s no foul. Right-wing bloviators will have to wrap their heads around that simple fact.

                        • Facts? Wrap? The?

                          I’ll take it!

                        • rhorho says:

                          Considering the FBI has cleared Obama, we can safely assume that any conversation that Rahm (as Obama’s agent) had with Blago would simply communicate Obama’s *legal* recommendations for his replacement, and nothing else.

                          I’m amazed at the opposition’s desperation in this regard.

                        • froofrou says:

                          The FBI has cleared *Obama*. Rahm is still being looked at. Let’s not clear felons before their appeals come in. *said as a turn of phrase, not to imply that Rahm is now or ever was or ever will be a felon* *said in the really fast talking announcers disclaimer voice*

                        • rhorho says:

                          Assuming the tapes cover the period of time
                          during which Rahm was acting on behalf of
                          Obama, and Obama has been cleared, then
                          the presumption of innocence is valid.

                          That said, it’s funny that Blago is the only
                          person I’ve heard defending his actions.
                          Nobody seems to be harping on the
                          “innocent until proven guilty in a court of
                          law” jazz. The evidence is overwhelming
                          enough, right?

                          I know you’re chomping at the bit, waiting for something to go wrong in Obama’s camp, but could you *try* to control yourself until something on the order of *fact* comes along? Our country is in dire trouble, and casting doubt on our future leaders with no evidence distracts us from the focus we need to maintain to get our *real* problems solved.

                        • froofrou says:

                          See, you’re looking at the non-denials as evidence of innocence. You’ll forgive me for being a little more cynical about it and thinking that it’s not an admission of anything yet, that they’re just waiting to see what’s actually ON the tapes. Rahm was acting on behalf of Obama, that much is clear based off the time frame of the tapes. What he actually SAID is up for speculation, and I believe I have stated clearly in the past that I have no idea what was said, nor will I speculate. Only that I hope that no one in the Obama camp was actually THAT stupid.

                        • froofrou says:

                          As far as Obama being cleared and that therefore clears Rahm, I call bullsh*t on you because you know as well as I do that Rahm could have been acting ‘on behalf’ (with big giant air quotes) and Obama could still have known nothing about it. Obama has been officially cleared. Rahm and the other members of Obama’s staff who had anything to do with this (weren’t there a couple more?) haven’t been. Let’s wait and see on them. I’m not presuming guilt, but I’m also not presuming innocence knowing Rahms rather sticky past.

                        • rhorho says:

                          No, I’m not “looking at the non-denials as
                          evidence” of anything.

                          “Presumption of innocence” is a legal right
                          of all Americans.

                          I was musing that no one has presented
                          the “presumption” argument for Blago,
                          because the evidence against him is
                          overwhelming.

                          Time will tell, and in the meantime, cynical
                          speculation is counter-productive to the
                          tasks our nation faces.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Blago comes from the Shaggy school of defense. Even if you’re caught red-handed, deny deny deny! It wasn’t me!
                          -
                          Rahm’s a little more schooled than that, as is Obama. It would be foolish to run off at the mouth like Blago did and then be proven so horribly wrong. Rahm is acting wisely keeping his mouth shut until the whole truth comes out.
                          -
                          *slaps down Right-Wing-Conspiracy-Nut side of brain that is screaming ‘NO! THE TRUTH WILL NEVER COME OUT! BLARGH!*
                          *buries that side of brain under 6 feet of dirt and tequilla*

                        • rhorho says:

                          With Rahm, you are presuming guilt before the facts come out. Stop doing that. As of this point in time, there is more going for his innocence than for his guilt. For one thing, he hasn’t been named in an indictment. You don’t have a leg to stand on.

                          *sows acorn above buried Right-Wing Conspiracy-Nut side of froo’s brain in hopes that something good will come of it, eventually*

                        • froofrou says:

                          I NEVER SAID HE DID ANYTHING. I said it’s likely, but it’s just as likely that Obama had eggs with his toast this morning. We know he’s on the tapes. We don’t know what he said. That’s all I said. Dammit. :-)

                        • @rhorho: And I am going to back Froofrou here. She isn’t saying he did anything. She is saying he isn’t cleared yet. For one making a fuss about facts not in evidence, you are certainly claiming them against froofrou here.

                          It is actually rather annoying. She doesn’t have a leg to stand on because she isn’t trying to stand on anything. Get it?

                        • slan agat says:

                          Actually, you’re splitting a pretty fine hair there between saying he did something and saying it’s *likely* he did something. True that froo hasn’t whipped out the Mark Slackmeyer GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY! yet, but directly above you she admitted that she’s saying it’s likely Rahm did something dirty and then admitting she’s spitballing.

                          Call rho for overreacting if you must, but calling bullsh!t when she’s making a legitimate bullshit call is swinging too far the other way.

                        • pittypat says:

                          With a penis?

                        • rhorho says:

                          @froo: Saying it’s *likely* that Rahm did something wrong, along with your earlier claim to know whether Rahm is “being looked at,” which you DON’T, is irresponsible in the best light. Even your statement that “Rahm’s a little more schooled than that” implies that he has done something wrong, without proof.

                          Patience, please: We will have actual facts in a short while. It’s just as likely that Rahm has been asked for silence, to aid any continuing investigation, than it is to presume guilt. We are taught in school that defendants are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Rahm isn’t even a defendant!

                          @DWN: She’s creating shadows, just like TC was doing a little while ago.

                        • pittypat says:

                          I agree. The “hasn’t been caught yet”
                          claims are an indictment.

                        • pittypat says:

                          Happy 2009 guys! This dial up sucks, so
                          I’ll be back next year …

                        • froofrou says:

                          “You know as well as I do that Rahm could have been acting ‘on behalf’….”
                          -
                          “I’m not presuming guilt, but I’m also not presuming innocence knowing Rahms rather sticky past”
                          -
                          That’s all I said. Also, there is a link that shows that he is being looked at, although in a peripheral way by the Attorney Gen’s office. Only because he was involved.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Crap, forgot to close off the bold. SOrry.
                          -
                          And Rahm has been involved with (as I said) sticky politics before, so is it so far outside the bounds of normal thinking to bring that up? He’s a shady political figure, based solely off his past performance. NOT HIS FUTURE PERFORMANCE. He’s done some strange political things in the past that were skirting the bounds of legalities. It’s not beyond the pale to think that it would follow that he’s very good at it, seeing as how he’s never been sent to jail.
                          -
                          THAT”S ALL I SAID. He’s good at what he does, no matter what that might be.

                        • slan agat says:

                          froo, I’m calling bullsh!t. Not presuming innocence IS presuming guilt, by casting aspersions and attempting to tear down credibility. You don’t have to pull out the Mark Slackmeyer GUILTY!GUILTY!GUILTY! to be out of line on this – as you yourself argued when it was TC doing it. You’ve said yourself that “it’s likely” he did something, and then admitted you were spitballing? Fine, you were spitballing. Cut it the fnck out.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Look, I’m tired of this getting blown out of proportion. I said he had something to do with the investigation. HE DOES. He’s being looked at by a grand jury ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE ON THE TAPES. That doesn’t mean he did anything wrong. I’m just not taking a stance either way as far as innocence or guilt. I didn’t say he did anything. I’m just not ready to completely absolve him until the entire text of the tapes is out. Why is that such a bad thing??

                        • rhorho says:

                          From your article:

                          “Whatever you think of Emanuel — an abrasive, take-no-prisoners political brawler — he has always struck me as exemplifying the best in the traditional if sometimes messy politics of getting things done for people. He may be hard-charging, even mean, but he seems to be a principled man — the polar opposite of Blagojevich.”

                        • slan agat says:

                          You’re doing fine, froo, that’s an excellent job backpedaling. You’ll be safely away from the cliff in no time.

                        • froofrou says:

                          It’s not backpedaling when I’m just saying what I’ve been fricking saying the whole time.

                        • froofrou says:

                          What you’ve done is taken part of a single post I made, took what I said and turned it into what you think I meant, and then are using it to try and make me back down. I didn’t say what you’re accusing me of saying, nor did I mean what you’re accusing me of meaning.

                        • rhorho says:

                          Perhaps this was a silly misunderstanding. I think you’re likely to agree that your first post about Rahm started off with a troll sentence, then backed off of itself. You probably thought that post had a net effect of zero, yes? Because you took it back?

                          See what you think of this paraphrase:

                          “GWB is being looked at for war crimes. Let’s not clear felons before their appeals come in. *said as a turn of phrase, not to imply that GWB is now or ever was or ever will be a felon* *said in the really fast talking announcers disclaimer voice*”

                          Your first reaction might be, “Gee, rho is being snarky, implying that GWB is a defendant, and a felon. Sure, she went funny later, but she’s definitely trying to say that GWB is a criminal. That much is clear. If she didn’t mean it, she wouldn’t have posted anything.”

                          See what I’m getting at?

                        • froofrou says:

                          Yes and no :-) My brain works differently than that, and I’m not taking offense at the implication that GWB is being looked at for war crimes, because the fact remains that he more than likely WILL BE even though he’s not at this moment.
                          -
                          I think it’s a case of differently working thought processes colliding together to make a scary little collage of irritation, hehe.
                          -

                        • rhorho says:

                          Okay, bad example, but it looks like you’re
                          getting what I mean.
                          :-)

          • Trainwreck Chaser says:

            I hope your not naive enough to believe their isn’t dirt worth digging up about Obama. The liberals just love him like a fat kid loves cake. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be president until we find out what it is, I am saying that if there is something, even if it was important, most liberals would either decide not to be believe it or down play it when it was important.

            • n8 says:

              Or maybe whatever trifling thing that got dug up or manufactured really would be worthless and a waste of time to indulge. I mean really, you think that the combined forces of Hillary and Johnny Mac haven’t uncovered everything there is to find? The only thing Repubs can do now is to spin up some sort of transgression out of whole cloth, as it appears you were attempting to do. Or, you know… maybe concentrate on rebuilding their shattered party and coming up with a valid reason to even exist. NAAAHHH, who am I kidding.

              • Trainwreck Chaser says:

                “Or maybe whatever trifling thing that got dug up or manufactured really would be worthless and a waste of time to indulge”

                What I’m saying might not even exist and you are already dismissing it.

                Are you just messing with me or are you nuts?

                • rhorho says:

                  I hope your not naive enough to believe their isn’t dirt worth digging up about Obama.

                  What I’m saying might not even exist…

                  Which is it? Contradiction leads to train wrecks…

                  • Trainwreck Chaser says:

                    Fair enough, again all i’m saying is don’t be surprised if there is any. I never said that he shouldn’t be president for this non existence of dirt. I’ve even been quoted as being interested in where this presidency goes.

                    • rhorho says:

                      Implying wrongdoing without evidence is
                      inflammatory. Take it further and you’ve got the
                      Salem Witch Trials.

                      n8 pointed out that two powerful opponents have
                      thoroughly investigated Obama. Rod Blagojevich
                      *quite colorfully* indicates his disdain for Obama
                      for not playing ball on FBI wiretap transcripts.

                      Simply put, there is evidence to the contrary of
                      your implication and none to support it.

                      Billions of people, domestic and foreign, are
                      “interested in where this presidency goes,” so
                      forgive me for missing the citation that you are
                      interested, as well.

                      • I will support this TC. Two people who wanted Obama to lose more than ANYBODY on this planet and have the power to put him through the wringer scanned his life to death and back. Hillary and John attacked him with every reasonable resource they had and even some that weren’t reasonable if I recall but don’t quote me since I lack citation.

                        That is unless you think John and Hillary were playing nice…

                        So ya, there might be dirt but it was so damn small that Hillary and John, his opponents, didn’t think it mattered. While I hate conceding to authority in these matters, these people for all intents and purposes wanted him dead in the water. If they didn’t find something boggling, what else is there?

                        I don’t doubt that as president he will walk into a few mudholes and come out the other end filthy. But before then, so far he was clean enough to hold out against Hillary and John. Rod condemned him for not playing along.

                        So yea, interesting. Interesting that you make the implication without fact. That and the presidency will be interesting.

                • n8 says:

                  I’m dismissing what you’re saying precisely because it doesn’t exist. There is no proof of its existence, there’s nothing to even suggest that it might exist other than that you desire for it to be so.

                  Kinda like God. [Ooooh! Yes, I went there!]

            • dropping in says:

              You mean like a blow job that took 6 years and unlimited funding to ferret out said wrong doing?….yes Blow jobs are certainly significant reasons for impeachment…

          • Trainwreck Chaser says:

            Also, way to be defensive RIGHT out of the gate.

          • dropping in says:

            Ok, I have to take exception to the “everything Bush touched turned to crap”…NOT a Bush fan, but the AIDs funding in Africa HAS saved a lot of lives, and done more good than harm- although even in Africa they see Bush as a collosal screw up according to one commentator from Cote d’Iviore this morning. But he did do one decent, could even be called high minded thing- I almost forgot until story this am on NPR…

  6. AtlasShrugged says:

    Wow, he’s not even in office yet.
    I have a feeling we’re gonna be hearing this a lot in the future…

    • Silverfish says:

      I do hope you are not surprised by that.

    • clamboy says:

      Well, you are the one who assumes Obama is a criminal simply by virtue of the geographic location of his home so, yeah, BoringNovel, if people like you take the podium, then yes, we will be hearing a lot of this in the future…

      • froofrou says:

        Um, that was TC making that assumption. AS is another cat altogether.

        • clamboy says:

          It was in another thread regarding the Blago affair, but AS has made that assumption at this site.

          • froofrou says:

            I agree, but you’re jumping on him for something he didn’t say at this time. It’s a little irritating when that happens, because you’re assuming that he hasn’t changed his views. Also, you’re jumping on him for an innocuous statement that wasn’t saying anything but the obvious. It’s the same as if I had said ‘Gee, George Bush is going to have hell in the future from the press and site like this/’

        • Uncle Fester says:

          There are times I can only tell them apart by lifting their tail feather…

          … in bed

          (to save anyone else having to type it)

  7. Barb says:

    Well grrr everyone.

    I think he looks nice. I think he’s deserved that much.

  8. Lllll. says:

    …coming up on the next Maury…”I’m one million percent positive that he’s the president!”…betrayals caught on tape…”You don’t know me! You don’t know me!”…”He should step-up and be a man”…lie detector tests reveal earth shattering conclusions…”Barack ‘Hussain’ Obama, you are not the president”…”Aaaaauuugh”…”I told you! I told you! Uh-huh! Like that!”…

  9. TigerShark says:

    why is it if a conservative says something strong…its called pounding the RNC rhetoric….but if a liberal does the same its called shining the light….newsflash brainiacs….DC’s been in trouble longer than the last 8 yrs….and as long as ya keep sendin the same horse to the race…gonna get the same results….is obama clean?….dunno…but look at who he’s around….his finance manager….obama says..I’ll hold wall street responsible..but yet when his finance manager was the head of fannie mae or freddie mac(not sure which n dont care)….when the senate started to investigate…he took 90 mill and ran…now I ask you…if obama’s campaign finance manager franklin raines was in charge of the aforementioned agency….wouldnt that make him a banker?….and as for TARP…regardless of whose administration it was that concocted the idea….IT WAS A DEMOCRATIC LEGISLATIVE BRANCH THAT POUNDED IT THRU…..against opposition by the republicans….pay attention!!!!!


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