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NOTE: This motivational poster is likely too soon and likely offensive. If you want to see it, you can click on it. It’s a joke regarding the U.S. military jet crash out side of San Diego, CA. Sensitivity FAIL on our part. We’re sorry about that. But it made it to the homepage based on user votes. So, the link to the image and comments can stay. We just won’t force you to look at it.
NOTE 2 SELF: (Distract users with Rod Blagojevich joke here.)
Link to original image: INSURANCE: Bet you never thought you’d need military aircraft crashing into home liability, did you?
picture: dunno source, via our lol builder. lol caption: Caerid11
too soon and in poor taste
Air Force’s policy should cover them – their premiums are gonna go through the roof!
I am kinda trying not to laugh at that. Unsuccessfully, I’m afraid.
Hey, this was the Marines. Don’t be dissin my Air Force. Why do we even give the ground-pounders planes in the first place?
Air Force? Wasn’t their plane. It was the Marine’s and they don’t even take care of my FIL and he served 28 years and is a WWII vet, and POW. Better hope these people have their own insurance.
DEFINATELY IN POOR TASTE, REALLY, GET THIS OFF OF HERE!
Why is it that if you wait a couple weeks, it’s ok to make jokes about? Are 9-11 jokes in bad taste? Get over yourselves. I agree with Koki on this one.
I can’t even see it anymore thanks to fascists who wish to stifle free speech. Thanks Melissa. Javolt!
LOL!!!!!! Did you seriously just complain about free speech being restricted because a privately owned site decided to provide a link to the image instead of publicly posting it? You retard. You can go out protest without a tank running you over, you can freely criticize the government and not get killed for it, so many people would love to have those freedoms, but any Americans take it for granted and wish to simply complain.
Sorry, but valuing free speech means that you don’t sit waiting until they come for you to make a noise about it.
Valueing free speech should first include knowing what the right to free speech does, and should entail. Private arenas have never been places where you can claim a right to free speech.
Haha, awesome. If it wasn’t for bad taste this site wouldn’t exist. C’mon, isn’t the financial turmoil faced by millions worse than a few dead people (if you answer no you are stupid and probably don’t have to pay your own bills) and yet we all laugh about it.
you poke fun at someone’s shattering grief. go back on craigslist rants and raves where you belong.
Eeerm…so, 1 person’s “shattering” grief > millions of people’s “kinda shattering” grief? I’d say if anything, they offset.
I like bad taste, I know I have a twisted sense of humour. But your statement is moronic. I think most people value human life more than money.
I thought it was funny … until I looked into the “real” news and figured out what it was about. Without the family being killed – yes, funny.
i agree, san diego is reeling from this. it was a terrible accident and the man who owned the home lost everyone he loved. this was an unecessary post.
San Diego was reeling when the jumbo jet crashed in North Park. When four people are killed in an accident no matter how spectacular it may be, it doesn’t rock the community no matter how much the local news may pimp the story. It is a tragedy to one man, and his family and friends. But San Diego isn’t going to do jack about this because it has been sucking at the military teat for far far too long, and local governments are not apt to bite the hand that feeds them. When the jet crashed in north park, they changed flight patterns in and out of lindbergh field. Wait and see. SOmewhere down the road there will be a little story about how the widget wasn’t tightened or some human error in maintenence and that will be the end of that. They’ll still be flying over University City, and Miramar and Claremont and so on, just like always.
Considering the crash killed four on the ground, including two young girls, yes, it is far too soon and in poor taste.
Um, really? You know if you think this kind of thing is funny, you can just read the regular news. I come to Pundit Kitchen to laugh, not to think about a family being burned to death in their home by a freak accident.
I hate to be a pest about this – but saying they “burned” to death is hyperbole at best. They died instantly. It’s a terrible thing regardless…but the way you said it was selfishly slanted to your own point…making you kind of an asshole, to be honest.
Unless you were there, or you’re the forensic pathologist, you don’t really know how they died, instantly or otherwise. While I’d like to believe, and it’s a good bet, that it was the former, we’ll likely never know.
This is really in terrible taste. Please take it down.
get over it
This was only a few miles from where I live. This was a tragedy. I feel bad for the poor father of the family, the only survivor. It’s heart wrenching to see him on the news.
don’t read this site then numbnuts! You see jokes on here about horrors of war where those Marines are creating immeasurably worse suffering! Your hypocrisy is astounding and your knee-jerk “other people should do stuff to ease my suffering” reaction is pathetic, you suck.
Too soon, poor taste, but I still had a small snicker at the absurdity of it all.
I am a huge fan of this website, but this is incredibly inappropriate. I am honestly disgusted that this picture made it on the website. A man lost his entire family in this accident and this will NEVER be funny.
You’re tied up in the emotions of the aftermath. Why is that? Because you heard the news story? Because they’re Americans, and somehow that makes them more real than, say, a family in Hungary?
The idea is funny. The story behind it is terrible. Two different things.
Agreed.
Um, yeah. I agree with both of the other posts. Too soon, poor taste and really not funny at all. A woman and her two very young children got killed in that accident; leaving a devestated husband and father as well as a traumatized pilot who will probably question himself for the rest of his life if he could have done more.
Pudit Kitchen should take this one down.
Wow. Too soon, not funny. Nuff said
Aside from the too soon-ness (and I’m inclined to agree that it would be difficult to ever find humor in this incident…) it’s just not that funny of a caption. I mean, I think this would probably be covered under homeowners’ insurance (the property damage) and really the government is going to have to step up and pay for it anyway. Now, I concede that with something this inherently unfunny, it’s a real challenge to write a funny caption, but maybe something like “Allstate points out the small print on page 55 of your policy excluding damage from military aircraft”?
Well, check my newest stuff. Might be a better caption.
Hmm. Yes, yours is better than this one.
My stuff will never make the front page. Which is fine, it lets me build up my pretend underground cred.
Nice WoW reference…
I agree completely. The situation isn’t funny or absurd really and the caption is completely and utterly lame anyhow. Too soon? Who knows? Funny? NOT.
Or maybe ‘there are easier ways of getting rid of your mother-in-law’
Once again, in horrible taste.
One more quick comment to back up Jin’s comment above: this won’t EVER be funny. And hey, instead of getting in a flame war in the comments, which I’m sure will happen later on, maybe people could just send some good thoughts for the surviving father.
We live in San Diego and the horror of it is softened by the father’s grace for asking that the pilot be thought well of.
It will never be funny. He lost his wife, his mother in law and his two baby girls.
:::nods:::
The father is an amazing, amazing man. I admire him tremendously for his grace and composure in the wake of this tragedy. His remarkable sensitivity for the feelings of the pilot who walked away physically unharmed is so rare in this country as to be almost nonexistent.
reminds me of Job (not the work type, the Biblical man who lost everything as a test of faith)
I am not overly surprised that it made it up though, given the insensitivity of some people.
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It was a horrible thing that happened and people were killed. Not to mention the pilot.. can you imagine living with that hanging over your head for the rest of your life?
In perspective, none of the tragic things that happen are ever funny to those they happen to or to those who are currently sympathizing. Some of us, with our wicked black hearts, do find it funny because that is how we cope. We laugh to keep from screaming and tearing at our own skin. Some of us laugh at the Walmart situation. Some of us laughed at the Texas hurricane situation. Some of us are laughing now. Even more of us will laugh at something horrible tomorrow.
I don’t know what people expect or why they expect people to mourn the same. If I didn’t laugh and mourn every tragedy I read about in my life, I wouldn’t have the energy to look at anything. The caption is weak and very meh but the situation could be laughed at. Not because we are monsters but because we just wish to keep sane because we have about ninety thousand more things to be depressed about after we are done reading the text.
So don’t laugh, nobody is making you or anybody else. However, us jaded little creatures will laugh so we can just deal with the next hour without snapping.
Dammit… you’re making me like you… now just stop that
In bed…
There, that should help put me back into your aggravating wanker category or at least couldn’t hurt.
Balance has returned to the Force…
It was touch and go there…
… In bed…
Now you are just baiting me on purpose.
and that’s a bad thing?
It’s not bad, as long as you sanitize your hands before touching anything afterwards.
Precisely…
I’d be wearing gloves…
…and an auto-darkening welding helmet?
<3 I couldn’t agree more.
This is a good point. I live in a part of Michigan that’s been more devastated by the auto industry’s issues in the last 5 years than most (because we are so rural) and it’s hard for me to laugh at the big 3 execs jokes that have been going around because that’s my livelihood.
But in general, pictures depicting a scene where someone dies should be hard to find funny.
In a way, I find your situation more tragic since you are having to live on that edge every single day. This man’s family are done with pain and loss, everything, good and bad. It is over for them. The man will live his life or he won’t. He already knows that he is in hell or maybe he will work out of it. That is up to him. He has my sympathy.
You, are suffering a trial that could mean almost anything. You might die from alcohol abuse in the next few years after losing your job and family. Your family might leave. Your city might just implode on itself as a metropolitan cancer and swallow everybody whole in an economic sense.
Then again, it might not do anything. You might be just fine. However, I do not envy you your nightly worry. I don’t envy what you see in yourself in the mirror. The self doubt, the worry, concern, or horror of what MIGHT be.
In a way, anxiety is like torture. Not knowing. I won’t compare tragedies or possible futures as it demeans the trials you and this father will face. However, I state that he isn’t waiting for a shoe to drop. You are. You both suffer.
I find humor because I suffer too. Laughter is the last thing I have before I let the demons behind my eyes win and I do nothing but mourn. It isn’t right. It isn’t necessarily fair. It is just what I have to do to keep going another day.
rather like the way i deal with my own life. i laugh so i don’t cry.
Despite all of the other negative comments you have received, I actually support your right to believe what you want. I may not agree with you on this lol, but I won’t be the one the demands censorship either.
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By the way, just thanks for being who you are.
In bed? LOL
Actually I wholeheartedly agree. So ditto this, yo!
please dont take this the wrong way. but id like to offer another perspective. i live in texas, i have heard so many reports of women murdering their own children, and more so of fathers doing the same, not just for insurance, but just to get away from them. chances are the father is a stand up guy, and really loved his family, and is in a world of suck…but maybe just maybe now he can move to the beach with his secretary/mistress/gay lover. i dont think the caption was funny, but some people deal with tragedy by finding humor in it. laughter, like crying releases a lot of emotional tension and can indicate deep strong feelings. i dont really think its fair to judge others catharsis mechanism just because you dont understand it.
Agreed. And a lot of times things like this are created to make a point and not necessarily for laughs.
I think this might be the first time something on this site offended me… This ought to be removed.
Let’s say Joe Schmoe gets offended at 1 out of 10 pictures on this site. Should those “ought” to be removed as well? Good to hear you got your cherry popped and all (welcome to life, friend – where you SHOULD be shaken out of your chair once in awhile and shown what is actually going on around you, not just what you’d like to think) … but get over it fast, because life doesn’t stop every time you’re offended.
I am shocked someone thought this was appropriate to post.
I’m not even surprised… and look around matey, you’ll see the people twitching and moaning who voted the thing to the front page like they didn’t
not cool at all
I laughed.
I know its wrong, but I laughed.
NO. Not LOL. Inappropriate and sad.
I cannot begin to list the number of ways that this is just wrong.
Please listen to us and remove it. Now.
Hahaha, losing your family’s home and your family with it! hillarious!
Of course I’m being sarcastic. Who the f*** let this one though? They need to be fired from this blog. This is a good taste fail.
I particularly like censorship when it comes from nameless faceless people.
Kinda like some of these people like laughing at this same sort of stuff when the victims are nameless/faceless to them? Hypocrits, all of them.
This just lends further support to my theory that 90% of lols made in the “inspirational poster” motif are not funny.
Someone voted for it too…
I’m not saying anything about whether this is appropriate or inappropriate. What I will say is how terribly interesting I find it that people only cry censorship when it offends them personally.
You’ve just noticed?
It’s not censorship to think something that isn’t funny should be taken down from a funny site.
It is censorship to think you are the sole bastion of knowledge defining what is funny and what is inappropriate. This doesn’t bother me and I got a tiny chuckle.
The community here determines what is appropriate and what is funny. Check the comments. This is neither.
It’s up there because somebody voted for it. More than one somebody, presumably. Which = community as much as the comments do.
100+ votes. 2/5 rating. It’s a dud by anyone’s standard.
Not the 1-5 ratings on the stuff that’s already up, that starts from 0 when they post it on the front page. The win/fail/skip votes on the voting pages are different.
Not to mention that while you’re voting on submissions, there’s an option to flag a picture as offensive. Seems like that would have been the time to do it.
I agree that it would have been the time to do it. For some reason, the people who voted this in failed to do that. I have no problem making a few comments in an effort to correct that oversight. This site is supposed to be funny, after all. Just look at how many people had a terrible reaction to this posting.
Ok, so you didn’t vote? You know what they say about that, right?
For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s particularly funny myself, and I am pretty sure I voted “fail”, but I don’t have a problem with it being posted.
I voted it up just for you, pal.
I wonder…. how many people who come here comment and how many people who come here just to look at the pictures? I don’t know that we can assume the sets are the same. It could be there is overlap, but only the site admins know for sure and tehy aren’t talking.
OT, but have the site admins changed things re: voting? I notice that posts that make it to the front page for the past couple weeks have a link showing all other captions. iS this a way to prove to the conspiracy theorists among us that indeed there ARE other submissions that don’t make it?
Ya and I am seeing my comment stating that it doesn’t bother me. And like diss said, it was voted in. And somebody made it.
So are you stating that the voters and creator of the poster are not part of the community or are you under the assumption that only the commentary providers matter. And what percentage. So nice of you to marginalize me as being irrelevant while believing the whole community backs you.
Since you aren’t paying to be here or doing anything besides page clicks which a retarded monkey on Viagra could do, just like the rest of us, you don’t actually have a voice beyond commenting and voting.
So feel free to run your mouth but realize that people voted this in.
If I really could marginalize you believe me I would.
Which is exactly why you don’t matter.
Pretty much. Was that supposed to be an insult or something?
Not really, more like clarification. I find your posts insult you enough.
Looks like ICHC agrees with me, I guess.
Congratulations. There went your win for the year.
Damn, now he’s back down at your level!
Indeed, poor guy. It sucks down here.
Antibiotics might help.
O_o… wtf?
im sure you laughed your ass off on september 11 2001
good for you
Nope, I was busying slowly starving to death in college. I had the WTF chuckle as I had no clue what was going on. Then I got to school, logged in to talk to Lynn who was hysterical. I heard an announcement they were closing the school down so I headed out. On the way out, I met up with this really sweet woman I knew who was the person who got me into the school. I spent about an hour calming her down and holding her as she wept with fear.
After that, I wandered the fifteen blocks home while watching the skies wondering if I would be next. However, I still had that uncomfortable chuckle and I can still laugh if I see a picture with a clever exaggeration attached.
You assume too much about people.
everyone in san diego is looking to the skies in the same way
you are just saying “look at me! I laughed at first!” for attention
For attention!? Okay, that made me laugh. I said I laughed, actually more like an uncomfortable chuckle. The kind of chuckle you get when you are tired and have no idea what the hell is going on or how to feel.
What attention could I possibly be after here? In about 23 minutes, I am going to go home and not look at this site for probably two days. If the lolz actually come through at a decent pace, I will probably never see this comment thread again.
As for my statement about what happened, that is what happened. I had a nervous chuckle when I heard about it because I didn’t know what to think about and I thought my roommate was pulling my leg. Were you expecting me to lie? What exactly are you trying to get at since you already assume I am lying for attention?
Don’t let him fool you. He reads every damn comment and then writes those ridiculous manifestos to rebut them.
Rather glad that he does. DWN is a damn sharp observer of the motivations of humanity, and his outlook is often very, very different to my own. But – that’s exactly why I read him. ‘Preciate your heart, DWN. Go enjoy some down time.
I like his manifestos too, although I think I share DWN’s view more often than not.
And a mini Kudos to Wearever. I suspect we may not be of like minds generally but excellent, succinct, snarky and correct grammar and syntax. Holy frijole. I’m not seeing a lot of THAT on here!
Oh, *blush* thank you so much. It’s, like, such an honor for me to receive a “mini Kudo” from one of the PK regulars. This is, like, the best day of my life!!! I just, like, KNEW that cramming for my grammar and syntax final would be, like, totally worth it!!! I can’t wait to tell my BFFs, they are going to be, like, totally jellus!!!!
LOL I dunno about anybody else – but for some reason I read “best day of my life” as “best GAY of my life” – and chuckled pretty good about it (more than I chuckled at the picture this thread is actually for, honestly). Then more smaller chuckles followed when I read “can’t wait to tell my BFF”s and “BFs”.
Best gay of my life…LOL goddamnit. I wish you typo’d that, so I wouldn’t feel slightly gay for misinterpreting that in a homosexual typo.
Sorry, but I can’t help you with your homophobia.
Wow, I can see where you are coming from most of the time but, that statement seemed rather harsh. It was a compliment. Perhaps you read it as a snipe toward you because they mentioned disagreeing but a general compliment over your mastery of grammar isn’t something to get so nasty over.
Seriously! Wearever, someone complimented you, it may not mean much to you but there’s no reason for you to be a dick about it.
Well, I didn’t know you all were so damn sensitive or I would have curtsied.
Seriously, I’m supposed to be grateful for a compliment on my grammar from someone who hero-worships a pathetic sack of shite who gets his kicks from verbally skewering a poor woman that dared to stand up for her personal opinion? Do you guys really think that those of us who aren’t regular posters give a royal crap about your approval?
Gee, if I would have known you all are so damn sensitive I would have curtsied.
Seriously, I’m supposed to be grateful for a compliment on my grammar from someone who hero-worships a pathetic sack of shyte who verbally skewers some poor lady that dared to stand up for her personal opinion? Do you really think that I give a royal crap about having your approval?
So sorry for the double post and the run on sentence. Haven’t had my second cup of coffee, so I’m not quite up to your standards of grammatical excellence yet. Hope no one got offended.
I saw nothing wrong with what DWN said. He may have been a little insensitive in his original post, but even he apologized for that. If she wanted to go fly off the handle about his response to HER COMMENT, it was her option. The escalation could have been avoided by ignoring his comment. Poor innocent lady, I’m sure her sh*t doesn’t stink…
And I don’t worship anyone, I just calls ‘em like I sees ‘em.
Dude, you double posted AND had a run on sentence?? No more mini kudos for you, my friend.
Jules, I’m surprised you got your nose out of his ass long enough to post that. A little insensitive? He apologized? She could have ignored his comment? Dude, get real. The whole bloody thing could have been avoided if LukeWarm could have, just once, let someone hold a different opinion without pushing his own down their throat. That “apology” as you call it, was just more baiting, denigration and flaming. An apology is a simple, I’m sorry, I was wrong to say that. Not I’m sorry but YOU STARTED IT! I don’t know the lady, but when I see someone getting ganged up on for no other reason than standing up for her point of view, I’m going to defend her, sure. It’s no different than you, eddie and all the rest of the little lambies running around, pounding on random posters and congratulating each other.
As for you “calling them as you see them”, what exactly can you see besides the inside of LukeWarm’s rectum? Does he have polyps or something?
You seem to be more interested in trashing me than holding an intelligent discussion. I saw that you were acting like a dick, and I see I was correct in my observation. If my head is so far up his ass then why did you all of a sudden jump on me for adding to the discussion? Seems like the lady doth protest too much.
For the same reason you insist on trashing me. You’re defending your hero, I’m defending a lady who basically did nothing wrong, except maybe naively expecting to have here opinion respected here. The only difference is that your hero is a stupid poser, and I don’t know if
Damn!
As I was saying, I don’t know if the lady in question is an asshole or not, but she doesn’t seem to be. Her biggest fault appears to be that she’s inexperience in the art of message board survival.
Well, two differences actually. Your acceptance here depends on your blind defense of your master, and I don’t have that monkey to deal with. I can agree or disagree with whomever I want. The day I’m accepted on PK is the day I throw my laptop out of the window.
My original post says basically “lay off her, she was complimenting you”. Why am I suddenly attacking you? I’m only defending myself. Which is silly because I know better than to feed the trolls.
Okay, I guess I’m gonna have to do a timeline for you. Yes, you said lay off, it’s a compliment, to which I responded, I couldn’t care less about being complimented for my excellent grammar. You came back with I don’t see that LukeWarm did anything wrong, she should have backed off, and so on, then I said, get your head out of his ass, he’s a message board thug, nothing more, she’s just a newbie that actually thought her opinion matters so why didn’t he just leave her alone in the first place, then you said why are you trashing me and I said for the same reason you’re trashing me, you’re defending your position and I’m defending mine. At least, reading down from the top, that’s the Cliff notes version. So we’re both doing the same thing and we’re both feeling a little silly about it. I’m not going to back down on defending Bet and you probably won’t back down from defending LukeWarm. So it’s either truce time or we keep knocking heads. Depends on how important getting the last word is to either of us. Me, not so much if it’s just rehashing like we’re doing now.
Oh, please. *snort* He’s nothing more than an internet bully. And you’re so grateful to be part of the PK inner circle that you’re confusing his pomposity, his vitriol and his verbal cruelty for some sort of divine insight into the human condition. On the PK boards, he might be hot shit, but I suspect that in the real world, he’s just another underachieving drone who gets his kicks from lording his superior flaming abilities over the n00bs in between typing yet another TPS report for his dead end job.
What? Internet bully? I don’t think so at all. You seem more like someone who gets beaten down a lot and has to lash out like you’re some kind of
badass to offset your own lack of awesome-ness (if you will…and I did).
From your posts here, it just seems that you’re far more of a bully (or at least the equivalent of which you accuse) than he. He just seems to be expressing his opinions – and has seemed more than open to other opinions so long as people just cite something more concrete than “I AM OFFENDED, PLZ REMOVE!”
Anyone who would ask a woman who lives close to the crash site if she’s been able to wash the smell of their burning fat out of her hair because she didn’t take his advice about how to laugh at this is a sackless bully, regardless of your opinions on my level of badass-ness. But circle those wagons, ’cause apparently, nothing’s off limits, as long as it comes from a PK-approved source.
Back your trolly of indignation up a bit, ok? First of all, that comment was made after a lengthy back and forth between to people. It wasn’t just thrown out there as a shot across the bow. You need to reevaluate the context before you start using it to support your case. While I don’t know the mindset of DWN when he said it, I can pretty much guess it was said with sarcasm as Bet was just being a pain in the butt.
That’s bullcrap and you know it. There was an exchange of about 6-7 posts, in which he got increasingly nasty when she wouldn’t agree with him. He kept telling her how to she should think so she could laugh about it. She made it very clear that he was free to think what he likes but she, personally, didn’t think the original LOL was funny. She stated that she didn’t agree with the people who demanded that the image be removed as well. The worst thing that Bet said was to call him a fussbudget or something like that. Meant with sarcasm or not, it was a shatty and indefensible thing to say. Whatever his “mindset” he’s a mean facking bully, nothing more. But, hey, keep on defending him and calling me a troll. Then go run around looking for someone else to defend. I think someone just called Gretchen a bad name.
In other words, a troll..
Do you have any talents besides shouting “troll”? Besides your remarkable ass-kissing skill, I mean. Are you hoping to get promoted to being the Keeper of Truth once Jane moves up to Grand Mistress of Spew?
Nope, that’s it.. now f*ck in the direction of off.
Aww, whatsa matter? Mommy forget to wash your favorite cowboy jammies? Did she accidentally leave the crusts on your PB&J sammich? There, there. Here’s a nice ba-ba for you. All better?
Konamali here, again. My doctor can’t see
me today and my prescription has run out
and I have no impulse control at all. Please
forgive my childish outbursts. When I’m on
my meds I really am a reasonable, normal
adult. Again, I’m really, really sorry for all
of this.
*snort* YOU again!
I was unaware that anybody here was forced to read anything I said. Or was it the stolen lunch money? I really wished I had been granted a slap person over the net power instead of a forcing people to read/post power. Oh well, the E-gods giveth and taketh away. As for my smell comment, sure call me an ass. I was certainly being one. There, you’ve been vindicated. Feel better?
Of course, no one is forced to read your crap, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re a dooshbag. No one is forced to read Fred Phelps either, but I’m sure that 99% of the people here would agree that he’s an ass. Personally, and let me emphasize that this is only my opinion, but if I ever said something like that to someone, I’d hope that my friends would have the stones to knock me up the side of the head and tell me to quit being such a asshat. But I’m not the one you should be apologizing to. The lady you were such an preck to is the one who deserves an apology, if you can nut up enough to do it without the condescending attitude and the “feel better?” cancellation. Until you do that, and do it without sarcasm, your just one of millions of internet flamers. I’m sure you’ll find a way to rip me a new one for saying so, but I guess that’s your claim to fame.
Well, you’re being an asshat now. How’s that?
I said I hoped my friends would do it, not some random message board idiot.
You don’t know me, who’s to say we’re not friends in the
real world? Calm down son.
Not your son either, asswipe.
Yeah, cancel my last post. I just went and read your most recent post to Bet. Clearly, it’s more important for you to be right than to do what’s right. And you can’t nut up and do what’s right when you don’t have any nuts. My fault for thinking that you may have one cell with a bit of humanity left in it.
Are you going to cry about it? HO NOES, I am a bad man on the interwebz. Thanks for pointing that out.
Ok, wearever’s view of you probably isn’t true but he really has a point. You were awfy mean to Bet.
Bad man on the interwebz, LMAO. In your dreams, Dork Dragon of the Gay Blades, or whatever the f*ck you’re calling yourself today.
Wow, you’re awfully pissy for someone who just crawled out of the dark recesses of lurkdom to spit bile at someone you don’t know. Why don’t you lay off and come back when you have something constructive to say?
I wasn’t aware that I’m supposed to care about what you think of me. But thanks for crawling in here to yawp your own version of constructive criticism at me.
I like the way that you have to recycle what others say in your posts because you are too dimwitted to come up with you own jabs. Works well. Now, I shall away, and speak of you no more.
Oh, please, get off your high horse, lady. “I wasn’t aware…” is a standard PK sheeple greeting, along with “I must have been gone the day…” and the ever popular “I must have missed the memo…” Unfortunately, PK Dweebese isn’t my native language, so I’m sure I didn’t have quite the right condescension inflection, or perhaps I didn’t have the sarcasm in the correct tense. So let me rephrase using English: I don’t give a flying f*ck what you think of me, you stupid twat.
Better? So glad.
Now I feel like such a kid…I was in fifth grade at the time. The teachers called us in from recess and told us that a plane had crashed into a building, but either I didn’t understand the magnitude of what happened or they were crying too hard to get their point across. I don’t remember which. Then they sent everyone home.
My dad’s cousin was a port authority cop. On Sep. 11th he wasn’t even supposed to be on duty but after the planes hit he went in to see if he could help. They found his body weeks later in the basement of the World Trade Center. I didn’t laugh at this picture, but I’m also not claiming it should be removed. That’s the problem with censorship. Who gets to decide what’s appropriate or not appropriate? You? Me? Who has that much knowledge, who is so perfect that they can make the judgement? No one is. The fact of the matter is, there have been comments and pictures on this site that I haven’t cared for, but I never once claimed they didn’t have the right to be up. You know why? Because I’m an adult and I have the capability to scroll by it and get on with my life. The fact of the matter is, no one cares about censorship until something offends them personally, then they demand that it be removed from sight, because if THEY don’t like it, then YOU aren’t allowed to even look at it.
I just fell MADLY in love with you. Well, of course just platonically.
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Or? … ;o)
Awwwww, thanks!
But who couldn’t love Jane? She is teh speshul!!!!1!!
*happily joins fan club*
Hey, everybody–I brought punch!
*shares punch*
*toasts Jane’s fairmindedness*
Yummy punch! Does it have champaigne in it?
Oh no, Dear–far too early for that sort of thing!
*winks*
Hey, it’s 6 am somewhere! Right? …right guys? Just me? Aww, shucks…
*applauds*
*Stadium-sized applause* Thanks for this one, Jane. A large amount of sanity helps a great deal. Sane thing – if you don’t like it, move on. If you think it’s offensive, move on. Or state your disapproval if you feel motivated enough. But don’t blowtorch people for not instantly agreeing with your sensibilities.
I just conducted my first funeral. It was for a baby, prem, 36 weeks and never saw daylight. I sat with the mum and dad for a couple of minutes… their way of dealing was to crack some jokes.
Qustion to TF and somer – inappropriate for a student minister to have a belly-laugh before a funeral?
No. It would have been inappropriate for any religious celebrant to tell people that they aren’t mourning/reacting the ‘right’ way to a personal tragedy. People react the way that they react. When one is in extreme emotional pain, one shouldn’t be judged by those who haven’t been there themselves. And the role for those who are around the afflicted is to be supportive, and open–human. For some, coping includes humor.
Mind you, I didn’t like this picture/caption. And I am glad that PK has ‘enveloped’ it. But I also don’t like the judgemental comments of many on this thread.
Well, I actually disagree with PK’s decision, and I’ll tell you why. See, aside from the problem of free speech and no one being privledge to the vast knowledge and experience necessary to dictate what is right and appropriate at all times that I discussed above, censorship has one other problem, which is that it frequently does the exact opposite of what it’s intended to do. Let me explain: See, if everyone reacted the way I do, they would have seen this lol and if they didn’t like it they would have thought to themselves, “I don’t care for that” or “That’s inappropriate” etc. and then they would have moved on to the next lol. The very few people who though it was funny might have gone to the comments section, but as they were in the minority, there wouldn’t be that many of them and they also would have moved on to a lol that had more conversation. Next this lol would have moved down the page and disappeard into internet obscurity.
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Now let me tell you what DID happen. See the people who were offended weren’t satisfied with simply moving on. They went to the comments section too, they shared with everyone how offended they were, how YOU should be offended too. They implied that if you weren’t offended, if PK didn’t take the picture down immediatly, then you were somehow less than them. Then other people who normally would have passed this one by (like me) got on and said, “hey, that’s not fair, you don’t have the right to pass judgement”. Next thing you know, PK took the picture down and suddenly everyone who didn’t already look and comment wanted to know what they were missing. They wanted to see the picture, they wanted to see what the fuss was about and they got on and commented about that.
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Here’s my point, in this long winded explanation of mine. We had a picture that many found offensive and it could have gone two ways. By demanding censorship and by PK giving in to those demands they very people who was most offended created a controversial situation that generated more interest in the offensive picture than it EVER would have generated on its own. It’s like in Harry Potter 5 (for you fans out there, I’m talking to you rho!) when Umbridge bans the magazine that printed Harry’s interview. Hermione says, “don’t you see, the one thing she could have done to make sure everyone reads it is to ban it.” (This is not an exact quote btw, don’t flame me). Another example, a few years back when that Dutch (think it was Dutch anyway) newspaper printed those Muslim comics and extremist groups threatened bombing, how many people wanted to see those comics to know what the fuss was about? Censorship creates an atmosphere that encourages people to seek out and read/look at the very thing people are trying to ban people from reading/looking at.
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Ah, human nature, isn’t it fun? ; )
Dear Lord, that was a Seth post right there! I apologize folks!
Never apologize for being clear minded and rational, you know Seth wouldn’t. I don’t agree with PK taking the pic offline, even though I thought it was in poor taste. I did voice my opinion on it, and that at least gave me a chance to express how I felt.
*hurts hands clapping*
*tries to whistle*
Jane, you and your Seth speech has pinned down what so many regular PKers would like to post in this sort of situation.
Taboo things are sexy, which is one of the reasons prohibition is predictably a flaming failure, no matter what the matter prohibited. It’s a basic gut-level feeling of curiosity denied.
As I’ve said in other instances, PK and the rest of the internet sites are like a giant TV. If one doesn’t like what one sees, one has merely to change the channel. Many people subscribe to the notion that “you either get pissed off or pissed on.” My knee-jerk reaction to such people is, “give me one example of an event in which that attitude actually worked without causing additional pain.
Jane, if you’re a human, then I like human nature.
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PS Thank you for the HP reference!
Jane, you rock. Accept the handsome salary I am prepared to offer you and come aboard my ship as first mate!
I don’t know why a pirate reference felt so appropriate…perhaps because pirates are supposed to be seedy
and disgusting to the public – never to be talked about. Yet, for that very reason the general public has had a bit of a love affair with them because you’re not SUPPOSED to acknowledge them. Of course, once you get past the neat-ness of indulging in something naughty, you see that the romantic aspects of pirates and what they do are pretty few and far between.
Holy crap, random and seemingly relevant metaphor FTW.
Anyways, your “novel” was totally right
Bravo.
Guess your father’s cousin really got buried in his work!
Keep telling yourself that it’s not censorship and you’ll continue to believe it until the day someone wants to stop you from saying something because they don’t agree with it, or think it’s worthwhile.
Will do! Any more helpful advice??
Yes, it involves a stick and your ass. Feel free to connect the dots.
Oh, my. I actually thought that one of your previous posts was pretty intelligent, until the PK regulars all started to lick your ass while you basked in the glory of their attention. This one is just pitifully predictable. Maybe you should just go back to shrieking about First Amendment rights, while you and your internet pals gang up on anyone who doesn’t think and speak just like you do.
I must have missed the day where I started caring about your opinion of me. Maybe I should have marked it on my calendar. I have no clue who you are, you on the other hand, clearly have an unhealthy obsession with my posting history. Maybe instead of determining which of my opinions meets your high quality of expectations you could actually form an opinion of your own and then defend it. That would be a novel idea, I know, you’d actually have to think independently.
“I must have missed the day when I started caring about your opinion of me”? That’s it? That’s all you’ve got? You recycle the content’s of Conan O’Brien’s wastebasket and then lecture me about independent thought? That’s the funniest thing I’ve read here in a long time. Carry on!
FFS! What in God’s name do you want?
Well, I told him I wouldn’t go out with him. It was sad, and I tried to be nice, but he didn’t take it very well.
Ah, now I understand!
Conan O’Brien asked you out? Funny, I didn’t think he was into the Ann Coulter types. And before Eddie bothers to run in to protect you, yes, I know I’m not sticking to the LOL and therefore a troll, not following the rules, and I’ve probably made a grammatical error in there somewhere.
It’s like Larry Flint of Hustler er fame. I think most people would agree that the man is akin to dog feces on the shoe of the universe, but he fought against censorship, in a case that had important legal repercussions for all of us.
They’ve removed the post, and even the link to it. That’s one for the mussolini types, and nothing for the first amendment.
I think they put the link to it back up, I was able to get to it.
Wow, this has got to be the longest PK *regulars* circle jerk on record.
Wanna jon?
No, he wants to cry about how the “regulars” are beating down contrary opinions in lieu of actually forming his own.
Actually, that is my opinion. I am amused at the way you all post your condescending, arrogant rebuttals to anything that hints of a differing viewpoint, and then everyone gathers to applaud and congratulate each other. Considering the general tone of intellectual superiority around here, I shouldn’t have had to spell it out for you. Circle jerk was much more concise and, dare I say, probably a lot more accurate in its literal sense.
Except for the fact that the “regulars” as you call them almost never agree with each other. As I said earlier, Seth and ema fight about economics all the time. I don’t even bother arguing with froofrou anymore because she’s a self-proclaimed right-wing nut and I almost never agree with her. Uncle Fester is an unrepentant asshole most of the time (sorry UF, but you are) and AC and DWN fight about the fact that he talks about sex too much and she’s too innocent. The fact of the matter is you STILL haven’t voiced an opinion on any of the actual issues that are being discussed here. No, it’s much to easier to whine about how you’re being left out of an elitist internet club. Congratulations, you’ve made the world safe from people agreeing with each other on the internet. Don’t sprain your arm trying to pat yourself on the back.
Siblings can fight with each other like all hell, but will band together if anyone on the outside challenges one of the family. I’m sure that you do disagree with each other. However, all you have to do is look at any random thread on PK and you’ll see that each time someone posts something that the regulars (or whatever you call yourselves, since you don’t seem to like that term), gather around, pound the n00b down, and then congratulate each other on a job well done. It’s not even a unique mechanism. Practically every message board I’ve ever seen has its group of regulars, and they act exactly the same way when someone challenges one of them. I voiced an opinion about the dynamics of this message board, and whether you think it’s relevant or not doesn’t really matter. As the resident champion of the First Amendment, you should know that.
You sound bitter. You might want to seek psychiatric help to work out why being left out of internet cliques makes you so angry.
I was wondering how long it would be before you dragged out the “you’re bitter, you need psychiatric help” chestnut. Now all you need to do is tell me to kwit beein such a h8tr and your circle of internet cliche supremacy will be complete. Well done!
Lets try
“You’re a retard and your mother smells of urine and gin”
Mom drank bourbon, you dolt. And she smelled like mothballs, not piss.
Cheap bourbon, I assume…
Of course. Why pay extra for taste when it all contains alcohol.
You’re both wrong. She didn’t have a preference. She’d drink whatever the bar patrons left in their glasses.
Why bother stating the “obvious” then?
Valid character assessment, so no need to apologise for that…
Lol! As an asshole myself, I always appreciate when we can accept the title.
Which is why I extended the invitation. In fact, you can be the anchor person, ok?
And take away your job? Thanks, but no.
Do you mean wanna join? But…but…but….I’m an outsider!?! What will the PK insider gestapo think? Quick, take it back before you get kicked out of the inner rectum…I mean, sanctum!
Well you do seem keenly interested in our little circle jerk (as you call it) so you must have some higher knowledge about how it works.
Eds, I’m having a little trouble reading Zorad’s text.
After “PK insider,” that G-word…
Is that German?
Sounds like a reference to a war…
Godwin’s Law win!
Oh, I do believe that my wang is now topic of conversation.
It yells at Uncle Fester for being a bad wife. Beats him too. WHERE IS MY DAMN DINNER UNC!!!
It was, but the discussion quickly petered out due to a lack of subject matter.
I know you’re invested in this argument, but you have yourself painted into a corner. You are mistaken about a material fact your case depends upon. In your shoes, I would abandon this cause.
*snort* Right. *Quickly scans this thread and others for typical message board gang behavior* Nope. Not mistaken. But sorry for interrupting your mutual admiration society’s breakfast meeting.
Thanks, interruption noted, now get the fsck out..
Aww, what happened? You dribble down your leg instead of giving Jane that pearl necklace? So sorry I spoiled the mood for you.
LMAO! OK… that’s funny…
Oh, and I’m sure you, Bet, slash, konamaili, tumi will have fun forming your own cicle jerk. If you need pointers, feel free to ask.
I’ve pretty much seen your technique displayed in your posts, so I’ll take a pass. I’m not really into the whole *message board as substitute for a decent sex life* scene. Thanks for the generous offer though.
Coulda fooled me…
No biggie. Doesn’t take much effort to fool a fool.
Especially a fool who forgets about the autofill.
He *has* to change socks, Eds. They get pulled out of shape quickly around him, donchaknow.
Just ignore them, or insult them… I do it all the time…
And quite well, I might add.
this is funny to me, not because of the recent incident, but because i live in vegas and recently 2 planes from the north las vegas airport crashed into someones house within a 2 week period. No one was hurt, but it left these people without a home and I think this is funny because I thought at the time, too bad they didn’t have “plane crashing through my home” insurance
Not the same house both times, right?
hahahaha, no two different ones. And it was within one week, not two like I said.
If it had been the same house, you’d have to wonder if they’d built a tractor beam in the basement and were testing it out or something. (Although even two in the same city is pretty weird!) Glad to hear nobody got hurt in those.
If you ever saw or read The World According to Garp there is a scene in which they are house hunting, and whihle they are looking at this house a small plane crashes into it. And Garp, who is a worrywart extraordinaire, says to the real estate agent “We’ll take it.” Because clearly, he will never have to worry about anothre plane crashing into the house!
LOL
Worse than in bad taste – IT AIN’T FUNNY.
Man, just how are these things picked anyways, because there sure have been alot of really lame ones lately.
It’s called voting.
I love when people start claiming censorship – this site ain’t the government, people.
Censorship does not just apply to the government preventing things. When I look around and see children and refrain from dropping the usual f-bombs, that’s censorship. Demanding that this be taken down is demanding censorship.
Joining the not funny, too soon, and inappropriate crowd. First time I’ve thought something should be taken down. I don’t find the death of two small children funny.
Not funny. If no one was in that house, I would have laughed. Two babies are dead, nothing about this sad incident will ever be funny.
Because babies are the only humans that matter.
Unless you love baby seals and whales and endangered frogs but militantly pro-choice… *runs like hell to the basement, pulling air-raid sirens* We have a very strange view on the value of human life, don’t we. I would imagine that the comments would be very different if the F/A-18 flattened Robert Mugabe. Not saying that people must or must not be offended – just that we are remarkably comfortable assigning values on different people’s lives.
Please, can someone explain to this foreign devil why the pro-life / pro-choice issue is such a massive divider in the US? Why litmus-test male pollies on this issue? And why assume fitness for office (or not) on this particular issues? I have my own view, but if someone asked me (with a hundred microphones in my face) I’d punch them in the face – hard – for asking a bloody rude question.
The far-right here has been dominated lately by a faction of “Neo-Cons,” who, IIRC, first gained attention as a movement in the 1980’s called “The Silent Majority,” then morphed into what we now call the “Religious Right.” These socially conservative people organized, garnering undue sway over the Republican Party. Rev. Jerry Falwell was the leader, or at least was one of the most vocal members of the group. One of the mandates of this group was the overturning of the controversial Supreme Court ruling (Roe vs. Wade), which establishes a woman’s right to choose what happens to her body, her future and her family. The group’s unified, politically active ranks established themselves as king makers, in a nutshell.
The Republicans have relied on this bloc to ensure political victory. Many observers believe that John McCain, seen widely as a fiscal (but not so much social) conservative, chose Sarah Palin as his running mate in a vain effort to kowtow to this bloc.
You’re right to observe the relative lack of importance of the Choice issue compared to other dire decisions required of our next president. Luckily, so did the vast majority of Americans.
Turning your baby seals vs. pro-choice argument over, may I present the pro-life vs. pro death penalty mind blower? It’s okay to kill them, as long as they’re grown, it would seem.
*joins OMG in basement; brings water, candles and magazines*
As long as they’re grown, speak a language I have no chance in hell mastering and a philosophy I cannot comprehend, it’s okay to kill them. *Forgot to bring toilet-paper – if anyone else is coming down, we’d be much obliged*
Oh, now I have to go, too! *grimaces*
Charmin or Kleenex?
Do you honestly think we’re going to be picky?
*grabs roll of (whatever brand) TP*
*cartoon-runs to the loo*
When you get to my age, the brand is important.
I have socks older than you, if you recall…
But not as badly worn…
…because I don’t need them for posting.
Thank you for your unfailing resourcefulness.
*hugs*
I just gank the scott from work
I thought that McDonald’s had a big contract with Cottonelle for all their toilet paper needs.
Because an idiot like me couldn’t possibly have a “real” job. You’re a joke.
I don’t know if I’m a joke or not, but I’m sure as hell LMAO.
No aspara-gas… promise?
LOL!! I used all of that up on Australia. Alas, poor Stepnerd…
Besides that was a while ago. Surely your nostril hairs are growing back by now?
*looks up OMGs nose*
Yep, your nostril hairs are even starting to grow back…
*headdesk*
Asparagus doesn’t affect my bowel, but ye gods, you don’t forget to flush after a pee…
The second half of your comment was a little uncalled for, especially the name calling. I know US politics and issues, thanks though. My comment had nothing to do with a pro-abortion rights or anti-abortion rights stance (which is are the correct terms if you want to be a little less inflammatory).
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My sarcastic comment was more along the lines of a comment on our value of life, like you stated. The fact that the OP only mentioned the babies that died and not the two other people as well I find a little disconcerting. Why should I only be upset at this event because babies died? And like you said, would people be OMG SO OFFENDED if it was Mugabe? Or Kim Jong Il?
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Everyone dies, these people just happened to do so in a freak accident.
I’m so sad this even made it to the pundit page. I’m a plane crash survivor and this will never be funny. Please take it down.
Seriously? Wow – I used to fix planes a long time ago, and any time one went down we’d all feel dreadful – like some collective sense of responsibility across the industry. And we’d pray that anyone who survived wouldn’t be too mussed-up (knowing pretty well how unlikely that would be).
Can you talk about what happened?
Yeah. It was about 4 years ago. I was traveling with AA and one of their smaller planes, a Super ATR-72 crashed on landing at the SJU airport. It has been one of the worst experiences of my life, I can tell you that for sure. We made it safely out of the plane as there was a response team on the ground doing one of their rounds when it happened. The plane “touched” the ground, then went bouncing around until it came to a stop away from the runway. There were skid marks all over. The was a co-pilot/wind kinda thing going on and that’s why the plane crash. Nobody (that I know of) died. The pilot was badly hurt and others were taken to the hospital for observation. Thanks for asking.
It should’ve said, there was a co-pilot/wind situation going on that apparently caused the crash. Sorry, my spelling mistake.
Take this down immediately please. How dare you ridicule four lost lives!!!!!
You realize we ridiculed thousands of lives with the Texas hurricane picture a few months back right?
Entitled much? Make your own website and don’t put it on there, problem solved.
sorry this is something that I’d expect to see on 4chan, not on pundit kitchen. The guy’s entire family was killed in the plane crash. I’m not saying it should be taken down, but I do believe it is in poor taste.
I imagine if this was your home and your family that died you would not be making a joke of it.
Which is half the point. A ton of the things you laugh about, you wouldn’t laugh at if you were being targeted. I am pretty sure if Wiley Coyote were real, he would take issue with being laughed at for over fifty years. I don’t expect people to laugh at anything. However, I can see the exaggeration and absurdity. So I had a little chuckle.
It is tragic, horrible, depressing, etc etc that proves one of the many reasons I am so paranoid. Anything can happen to anybody. Any damn thing at all. I laugh because I want to stave off a coronary for another five minutes.
So save the pity and shame party. We know it is horrible.
This happened about 5 miles from my house. I saw the plume of smoke as i was leaving home going to school, it wasn’t till i got home i found out what happened. RIP to the family killed
too soon and not funny.
take this down.
Totally inappropriate! Also, the first time I have felt that something should be taken down. I have written to the site to add my “vote” that it be removed.
Ages ago, ICHC had a feature where they would “hide” a picture that people found offensive. If enough folks request it, they might respond and do so again.
And now they have. I personally find “Note 2″ pretty funny.
Of all the other captions on this one, I actually laughed at DWN’s. Go figure!
And I am honored. Thank you. ^_^
Truly, I laughed! And, had YOURS made the front page, I think the sturm und drang would have been less pronounced; the comedy was far more subtle. Good job!
XD I tried to emphasize the absurdity of it all instead of stab people with the news story.
I like to pretend and tell myself that PK keeps me underground to up my street cred. I just know that I will make a stupid one and it will make the front page. Then I’ll be pissed.
Agreed, his was definitely better.
This happened about four blocks from my apartment. I heard the crash and saw the fire and smoke from my balcony. I heard the panic in my husband’s voice when he called to find out if I was okay. I cried a little when I saw the widower ask for help in dealing with losing his entire family and his gracious words for the pilot. I think about that young man who will wonder if he did everything he could for the rest of his life.
I have a pretty macabre sense of humor and can laugh at almost anything, but yeah, too soon for this.
Look at the picture and not your memories. Look at the situation and not the bodies. That is what we are laughing at. We are laughing at a plane through the roof of a house. Something that is statistically absurd, which is why it is news.
We are laughing the picture which is a plane through a house, something that honestly shouldn’t happen. It is weird and bizarre and thus we have our reaction. We are not laughing at dead people. We are laughing at an abstract situation. Hell, most of us here aren’t even laughing as there are too many people parroting the same idea when it was voted in.
Honey, don’t tell me how to think. I’m just expressing my opinion, as are you.
And I am explaining how we are laughing at it. How we are seeing it. I don’t recall telling you how to think. I just told you what you would need to do to actually get a chuckle.
So don’t fuss against something I wasn’t even doing. At least call me on something I actually did if you want to fuss.
Thx for the hive mind explanation!
O_o. I thought I was explaining emotional detachment but whatever you say, crazy lady.
you were but you couldn’t stop saying we. maybe you’re the crazy one, you multiple personality wacko.
Right, so you are thinking I am the only person who laughed. Correction, mild chuckle before I found the wince fest that is comment area.
No, for the record DWN wasn’t the only one who laughed…
For the record, find the senitmentalisation of both the culture of the US and the UK nauseous in the extreme. If I could have handed in my ‘British’ badge at the saccharine out pouring of ‘grief’ when the stupid bony Sloane found e wasn’t ‘too special to wear a seat belt in a car driven by a drugged up Frenchman, I would have done… and it gets worse every bloody year. If one is going to wear sack cloth and ashes for EVERY damned accident and mishap, one may as well shut the whole place down and replace it with the ‘Lachrymosa’ segment from Moztart’s Requiem on loop…
God’s stripes and wounds, I’m sick of pale pink brains who presume to tell one how one should feel…
I think you might have a better leg to stand on if you actually used the shift key once in a while. You know, before you started calling someone crazy that is.
Good call. Time delay in my country – you guys get the jump for the troll-sticks.
*hands OMG an expertly crafted Troll Stick*
Here–in case we miss one on the night shift!
Now THAT’S a stick! *Admires cunningly-wrought black iron troll stick* Ah’m honoured, Ma’am. I came in too late to cach the trolls that caught as sniff of DWN’s point-of-view.
I’m glad you appreciate the excellent craftsmanship. That troll stick is an authentic Eddie P. Scetti™. Use it in good health, my Dear.
I prefer re-bar with razor wire strands… used right you can strip them to spine and ribs with a few, deft, strokes…
Holy crap, that sounds like something from the Spanish Inquisition!
@Unc: I’ve been looking for one of those. My heels are always so rough!
@Eds: Ya just HAD to go there, dintcha?
I have to make my own… it’s based on a Roman design.
I like it, I like it! Maybe we should incorporate your design into our’s.
I think it’s high time for some more fine widdling, Eds. I like the intricate laser carvings you’ve been doing, but your production is slipping as a result.
*shows Eds blue prints for Acme Troll Smoothie Maker™*
*studies the schematic*
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I’ll get back to you on this one. But it looks easy enough!
honey, using proper capitalization and being sane have nothing to do with each other. besides, your last sentence is grammatically crap. think harder before you try to retort next time.
I didn’t say it did, I just said it would lend more weight to your argument. What was wrong, grammatically with my sentence? I’m not saying it’s perfect, you might be able to find a mistake, but not so many as to designate it as “crap”. Your word choice lends more weight to my argument than yours.
simple capitalization would lend more weight to my argument? hey, if you want to play grammar teacher and ignore the actual comments then that’s fine by me. it makes it easier to point out that you have no actual rebuttal whatsoever, only some weak attempt at trolling.
It’s like PK Bizarro world around here
lately.
The only way to lend more weight to your argument is to think whatever the regulars on PK tell you to think. This whole thread should have convinced you of that.
That is so not true.. you too can be a regular if you just make your presence known.. it’s the comments from people you never hear from about how offended they are that cheeses people off.
@slash: So I take it to mean that you couldn’t actually find any grammatical errors in my original statement that you called “grammatically crap”. You called someone a multiple personality wacko instead of actually debating with them. When someone (me) implied that if you were going to throw insults around your own posts should be above reproach, you threw a hissy fit about the fact that I wasn’t responding to your actual post (the one with the sophomoric insults, you remember that one, don’t you?)
@Tumi: The “regulars” on here almost never disagree with each other. Seth and ema throw down about economics all the time, and froo and rho, although close geographically are so far apart politically they should be in different time zones. All of this you would have known if you grew a pair and actually formed an opinion, posted it, and then supported it. Instead you’re lurking in the shadows and jump on only long enough to make a whiny statement about how you’re not accepted into the PK “clique”. Honestly, if I were you I’d reevaluate the things that are important in my life, since not being accepted on the freaking internet has sent you into such a bitterness spiral.
Meant to say agree, not disagree.
Oh, and I almost forgot.
*hugs Ed*
: )
@Tumi:
Jane has already covered the fact that the regulars don’t agree. I think the only thing lately that we could go 90% on is that Blegojevich is an arsehole. It’s impossible to “think whatever the regulars…tell you to think” because, on most issues, we would be telling you 16 different things to think. I agreed with Jane entirely this time, but do not expect 100% agreement with her on the next flameable statement either of us make. It’s just nice when we do agree, because Jane is a great person. The difference here is courtesy. As a rule, non-troll noobs don’t get dissed by regulars. That’s a silly claim you’re making. It’s really simple here. As Jane said, (paraphrase) post a material opinion and support it. That’s it.
I did post my opinion. I looked at this thread (my supporting material), and said that when it comes to an outside opinion, you quickly assemble to pound the poster into dust. Whether you agree on issues amongst yourselves is irrelevant. Even a squabbling bunch of meerkats will unite to defend the group against a threat.
Your opinion was intended to inflame an already heated discussion about the so called ‘regulars’. It amazes me that you see yourself as somehow victimized because you were called up on your comment and that you were pounded into dust. Now, had you commented on the LOL that was posted, the end result might have been altogether different. But don’t expect people to jump to your defense when you interject yourself into a disagreement.
My mistake. I didn’t know that my opinions had to adhere to specifically to the LOL. I thought that commenting on other stuff, such as a person’s capitalization vs. the validity of their posts, was allowed. Glad to see you follow your own rules.
My mistake. I didn’t know that my opinions had to adhere to specifically to the LOL. I thought that commenting on other stuff, such as a person’s capitalization vs. the validity of their posts, was allowed. Glad to see you follow your own rules.
Again, you’re willfully misreading my comment to suit your position as the downtrodden PK peasent. Slash’s post contained several insults against the person it was responding to. That made it a trollish comment, yet I never said it was invalid, I mearly pointed out that if you’re going to call someone crazy, you shouldn’t look crazy when you do it. Let me see if I can make this simple for you. Personal insults without provocation=trolling.
Jane, I give up.. Bet, slash, tumi, and konamali are free to think whatever they want. They want to discuss something, it will be without my involvement. I’ve had enough of their trivial BS.
I’m not misreading anything, let alone purposefully. I’m simply pointing out, as others have done, that you say one thing here, another thing there, you contradict yourself and can’t seem to keep your own rules straight, much less follow them. But, hey, keep on believing that you’re right.
Tumi, if you return to your answer of my point, you will find that I indicated that regulars don’t all have the same opinion, so, by definition, cannot tell people what to think. Your answer had nothing to do with my assertion. If you don’t understand how to address a point with a counterpoint, then you’re in the wrong place. Being trolly is not a substitute for intelligence, past the age of three, anyway.
Your reply may have carried a bit more weight if weren’t so patronizing. You do realize that starting your reply with ‘honey’ pushed you into the troll zone, right?
jane’s first reply may have carried a bit more weight if she wasn’t so patronizing. come on, she had a weak dig about proper capitalization and yet you call me a troll and not her? circle those wagons!
You interjecting a comment that was totally irrelevant to the thread immediately classifies you as a troll. No wagon circling is necessary, just a keen eye for the obvious.
Actually, calling someone a “wacko” instead of using reasonable discourse to disagree with someone’s opinion is what made them a troll.
Jane, you make “wacko” sound wrong.
I has a sad…
Well, only when you don’t know the person first. I mean, really, that’s sort of personal between two people who share a special bond, you don’t just go calling anyone a wacko, do you?
Thank you Jane! I feel better now. Next time you call me a wacko, I’ll know it’s from the heart! ♥ ♥ ♥
Hey, no fair! I used “Honey” and you didn’t call me a troll!! *sob* My life is ruined – the cool kids don’t like me.
DOH!! Troll using patronizing comments!
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Sorry ’bout leaving you out..
*WHACK!*
There, Bet. I hit you over the head with a troll stick. Feel better now?
That wasn’t me, you hit the bars of your cage. Nice try though.
*mutters*
…third time this week…
…HATE my cage…
…[BLEEP-BLEEP]…
…try to help a troll out…
*walks into bars at back of cage*
*continues walking*
Wow! When did the dirty insinuations end up putting rho in a cage? I think I missed something sexy : (
“Look at the picture and not your memories” “Look at the situation and not the bodies”
Gee, my mistake. I thought you were telling me how to look at it and interpret it “correctly”. Forgive me if I can’t forget that the “situation” DOES involve four bodies.
You’re entitled to laugh at whatever you want to. And I’m entitled to think that something is in poor taste if I want to.
And if anyone’s “fussing”, maybe you should go back and count how many posts you’ve made trying to convince everyone of the humor in this, Little Mr. Fussybutt.
I don’t believe I used the term “correctly.” I simply stated how you could look at it. However, name calling? Really? Is that how you want to play this? I wasn’t trying to belittle the situation. I was trying to explain the alternate view. It is something to do and people like you keep giving me something to do. And next time, try harder if you are going to insult me.
Then again, I suppose I could get nasty if you really want. Since you want to lower this down to name calling.
Mr. Fussybutt, wtf lol.
Was he one of those Mr Men characters? I always thought of DWN as Mr Tickle, but Mr Fussybutt is just going to lead to a post starting with “in bed”.
“People like you”??? Name calling without the name.
You’re not on the debate team any more. You don’t get extra credit for the number of posts you make. Having the last word doesn’t mean you “win”. Put your Roget’s and your Dorsey’s away. This is the real world, where people are allowed to express their opinion.
I don’t need you to explain an “alternate view”. I GET IT. You laugh because you’re emotionally detached from it. You laugh because the world is going to shit anyway. You’re the tragic clown. I got it the first time you posted it, and I got it the next approximately 85 times you posted the same thing. I didn’t say you couldn’t or shouldn’t find it funny. I didn’t say it should be taken down. I didn’t even address you directly. You decided to comment to me and tell me how it’s funny because you emotionally detach yourself from it. You’re the one who instructed me to “Look at the picture and not your memories” and to “Look at the situation and not the bodies”. WTF? What kind of person looks at that picture and doesn’t think of the bodies inside? Oh, right. An emotionally detached one. You mentioned that. Repeatedly.
I guess you’re right. Compassion really is a buzzkill. Lucky you.
… I have a question for a person of your moral high ground.
Have you gotten the smell of their burnt fat out of your hair yet? Does your indignation help keep the screams out of your head? Was there screams or just dead silence besides the roar of flame?
Spare me your indignation. I wasn’t trying to piss in your cereal. I was making the attempt to speak from one macabre individual to another. But hey, least you got all your self righteousness to keep you sane right? Besides, if there isn’t a win to be had, why do you keep trying to get it?
Being near a victim doesn’t make you the end all of compassion. Hopefully the smell didn’t get into your house. I would hate for you to lose any sleep.
Again, I simply stated that it was too soon for me to laugh about this, and why. You decided that I needed you to tell me “what I need to do to get a chuckle from it”. You decided to keep coming back with increasingly incendiary (forgive the pun) posts. You decided to repeatedly post the explanation of your mindset. You could have just let me have my little opinion and moved on, but nooooo…..
I haven’t called myself the end all of compassion, nor have I put myself on some imaginary pedestal of high moral ground. I expressed my own personal feelings about the image without imposing them on anyone or calling for it to be removed. I know that you fancy yourself as the resident arbiter of human motivation, a virtual pin to pop the bubble of the self righteous, so to speak, but the pure hatred and take no prisoners attitude in your last post just shows how much you really, really need to be right at any cost.
Since I don’t post on message boards very often, and you’ve obviously spent many, many hours honing your remarkable ability to cut lesser posters down to size, I have no doubt that I’m on the losing end of any war of words. I don’t have the energy or desire to learn how to win a flame war. So yes, you win. You’re right and I’m wrong. This is indeed chuckle-worthy, and I’m forever indebted to you for showing me the light. High-fives all around!
*applause* I don’t think that I could have penned such a coherent response to that disgusting pile of fecal matter. It’s disheartening that some boards get dominated by people like him and their ass sucking sycophants. It’s like junior high school for the underachieving pseudo intellectual crowd. Ever notice that people like him always claim that they only come here because they have nothing better to do and that they’ll be far too busy to read any responses. Yet they always seem to be online.
Anyway, I hope he didn’t ruin your day. I’m sure he’s very proud of himself but that was unnecessarily cruel.
Thanks for the kind words. No, he didn’t make me feel one way or another. He’s like a two year old who doesn’t get his way and screams “I hate you!” Granted, he’s gone a bit beyond screaming “I hate you” but the intent is the same. He’s just frustrated with me and so he lashes out, hoping he’ll hit a weak spot and make me cry or run away. Sort of a sad case.
But look at it this way, that little “outburst” was probably the closest he’s come to having an orgasm all year.
Were you expecting a hug after that post? Or was the applause enough? I know you love getting your internet high fives and applause while telling the world how tough you are and how those who annoy or bother you on some level don’t have orgasms. Speaking of which, how did you come to that conclusion? Finally, at what point did I say that anything I said beforehand was the only and right way? I believe this started when I stated how it could be funny and how it was viewed. My word choice was off, I will admit and even apologize for but I don’t recall asking for the attitude I got back. So no, I’m not right. Never said I was. Not about the proper way to mourn. I just get real tired of people decidedly getting offended and instead of moving on, they just parrot the same post over and over.
@Zorad: By the way, there is something called a timestamp under the name on each post. They let you properly understand the timing between posts so you don’t assume like a twit that somebody is spending all their time here. The part in front denotes the hour and the digits after the colon denotes minutes.
I’m sure she’s expecting you to be an azzhole. Consider your mission accomplished. Your message board punk status remains intact.
Don’t assume, like a twit, that anyone needs your little lesson on timestamps. All they have to do is drop by any Mon-Fri during business hours to see that this is pretty much your only gig. The first part denotes Monday through Friday and the words “business hours” denotes 8:00 AM till 5:00 PM or a similar time span. *Sits back to enjoy the warmth from the coming flames*
doesn’t the time stamp come from your own computer clock, so it would nt say if the person is in another timezone, thus out of business hours, or what exactly it is they do, not really a flame or anything, just pointing out you assume quite a lot
It still records an eight hour time span just fine, no matter what your computer clock says. That was the point of my post.
Hey DeathLukewarmBunghole, I see you’re here gettin’ your jollies on again. What’s the matter, Jenny not tighten the nipple clamps enough? Awww. Well, hope that unleashing on some poor lady made you feel all better. Now you can go back to your steaming turd of a life and draw another crappy dragon.
FV, I believe the time stamp is the web sites as my time is currently 3:00 pm, where as the time on the messages is about five hours ahead (which would be correct for west coast from where I am).
@Nomins steaming turd of a life…now that’s funny. I’m laughing, but WTF are you talking about?
Konamali, do you know Bet or where she hangs out?
Have you checked under the bridge?
@Nomins: That was nice and specific. So glad to have a stalker. I might have to call you George. Cuddling won’t be involved.
So sorry. You really don’t spend all that much time here, considering that you’re so busy keeping the underworld safe for all the other faeries and all.
Save the cuddling for your spawn. The handmaiden just coughed up a hairball and the kid’s eating it. He’s sure to puke all over from that.
eddie, how clever. Come up with that up all by yourself? Didn’t think you could detach your lips from Jane’s ass long enough. Or did you finally figure out not to put your nose in her buttcrack?
OH NOES. She’s gonna be pissed and holler at me for the personal attack.
Hello, I’m DeathWyrmNexus and I’m an internet gaming dweeb. I love kitties, zombies and pretending I’m a badass in between being a Dark Dragon God and trying on my girlfriend’s panties (shh, don’t tell her, *wink*). I have an awesum pleather coat that I just lurrve and I wear my hair long and greasy to compensate for my prematurely receding hairline. My hobbies are ripping random strangers on various message boards, shopping for new bondage accessories and producing laughably hideous “art”.
Relax, you guys, your whole world didn’t just collapse. It’s actually Nomins here, but since one of you cowardly buggers decided to post under my screen name, I thought I’d try it out too. And you know what, it’s kind of fun!
I’ll be here till Thursday, tell your friends and don’t forget to tip your waitress!
You’ll always by Little Mr Fussybutt to me from this day forth :¬>
Lol! I can see that name sticking…
DWNLFB FTW!!
It’s less about name calling and more about laughing at the mental image of you sitting in front of your computer, typing post after post, trying to convince people of what they need to do to get a chuckle from this. Your words, not mine. I’m surprised that you didn’t catch the humor in it. Just emotionally detach yourself.
But whatever. With your highly developed flaming skills, I’m sure that you’ll do an excellent job of verbally eviscerating me, much to the delight of the handful of people here upon whom you rely for mutual ego massaging.
Ummmm, how is HIS posting from his computer any different from YOUR posting from your computer? Hey Pot, I’d like you to meet Kettle, I believe you have something in common.
The difference is, well, sheer quantity of posts. And I’m a little disappointed. Your other posts are witty and well thought out. The “pot meet kettle” thing is just phoned in. C’mon, you’re better than that.
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t get the internet etiquette email that clearly defined the exact number of posts needed to make you a loser. I’ve never understood the logic of one person on the internet telling another person on the internet that they are a loser because they are posting on the internet. I don’t care if you’re posting once or a hundred times, you’re both on the freaking internet. The pot meet kettle thing, as you call it, exactly fits this situation, either we’re all losers for posting or none of us are, it’s not something that can be measured. Telling someone they’re posting too much is a cheap shot and doesn’t lend anything to the discussion.
Well, gee, while we’re on the subject of memos, let me refresh your memo-ry about a post you made down the thread a bit…
“I know, I don’t even recognize ANY of the names! Are they just lurking in the shadows waiting for something to make them jump out and yell “OFFENSIVE!”? Also, I thought we called them CareTrolls. You know, like CareBears, only WAY more annoying.”
So, let me get this straight. If I lurk, and then post when something when I feel that I want to, I’m a troll. If you don’t recognize my name and I dare to post, I’m a troll. But, if I have a Jane St. Clair-sanctioned, Jane St. Clair-recognized name and I post, it’s okay.
What I didn’t do is call anyone a loser, or say that anyone is posting too much. The only thing I dared to do is put my un-Jane St. Clair-sanctioned, un-Jane St. Clair-recognized screen name and opinion up here.
That about sums it up..
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Seriously, you completely took out of context what was meant. Jane was simply saying that these lols come up all the time, and the only time we hear from the lurkers is when something offends them. Can’t you see where that might be just a wee bit annoying? Besides, it isn’t even the “OMG, I’m offended!”. It’s the “OMFG! I OFFENDED! Take it down now!” Where does that come from and what gives anyone the right to demand anything like that?
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Truth is, I found the caption offensive as well, but I didn’t demand that it be taken down. That is where the name of CareTroll came in. Do you get it now?
@ eddie
I agree that it shouldn’t have been taken down. But people have the right to say they’re offended as much as you have the right to laugh about it. What I don’t get is the whole thing about lurking. I come here a couple of times a week and have a look, but I don’t comment very often, because nothing moves me to take the time to comment. But if I do comment, I get called out for lurking and trolling. So what does a casual observer do? Do I announce that I’m here every day on the outside chance that I’ll see something I want to comment on? Why do occasional or one time commenters get the bum’s rush? With all the free speech rhetoric tossed around, why does that only apply if you are a frequent poster? I’m not being snarky, I’d really like to hear why this is. So please, try to explain it to me without the condescending attitude. I tend not to give much weight to responses that are designed to belittle me while informing me.
“And I’m a little disappointed. Your other posts are witty and well thought out. The “pot meet kettle” thing is just phoned in. C’mon, you’re better than that.”
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This was your first mistake (I don’t do internet code, so quotes won’t be fancy). You don’t start off patronizing and expect a decent response, that is in no way logical. If, instead, you had said that it was the amount of posts that tips you over the line and that you didn’t think I was being fair, my response to you would have been different. Even with your condescending attitude I talked about how I didn’t think amount of posts made a difference and you responded with an attack on something I said on a completely different part of this thread. You’re trying to play the victim here and it just won’t work. The fact of the matter is you came out throwing punches and then got mad when we hit back instead of taking one in the face.
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As far as the censorship thing, I never once said that people shouldn’t be allowed to post that they are offended. By all means go through every single one of my posts on this page and show me where I said those people shouldn’t be allowed to say they were offended.
Ok, in a nutshell it goes like this. If you make a valid comment on something that has merit, that’s fine, but be prepared to defend your position if called up on it. If you make a comment that is inflammatory towards another or is a personal attack, expect to get flamed back. Several others that were called ‘trolls’ decided that it was in their best interest to personally attack someone. Should that be tolerated?
@ Jane
Sorry to disappoint, but I definitely don’t expect a decent response from you. It was sarcasm. I’m not mad, either, but it’s interesting to see that you said “when we hit back” instead of “when I hit back”. So much for your insistence that there’s no group-think going on here. (Sorry about the fancy quotes, but I’ve observed elsewhere that using correct punctuation here is very, very important to the validity of my response. Not to bring up one of your quotes from another part of the thread or anything.) To your point, if you say in one part of a thread that it doesn’t matter if you post once or one hundred times, and then go to another part of the same thread and complain about new/infrequent posters, don’t whine when someone calls you out on it. As far as censorship, no, you don’t come out and say people shouldn’t be allowed to say they’re offended, you just call them CareTrolls and hold them up for “when we hit back” gang ridicule.
@eddie
So who gets to decide what constitutes a valid comment or what has the proper amount of merit? Who decides what is tolerated? I see places where you say that in order to be valid, it has to relate directly to the LOL, but in other places you support evaluating someone’s skill in grammar and punctuation as a means of validating their post. If English isn’t my first language, and I make a syntax error, does that automatically exclude me from the valid comment zone? Or in the interest of open discussion, are all comments, LOL related or not, proper use of the King’s English or no, allowed? Who decides what’s inflammatory, and therefore, flame-worthy?
I don’t even know why I’m still arguing with you, since you so clearly want to be slighted.
1. Using internet code to quote another person isn’t “correct” punction, it’s just a difference in style. Again, you so want to see insults where there are none, you didn’t realize that I wasn’t disparaging your use of them, simply giving an explanation for my lack. For about the 300th time I’ve said this, I never said slash had to use correct punction. I DID say that if you are going to call someone crazy you shouldn’t look crazy in the process. Why is it that it doesn’t matter that slash was insulting? Why do you only think the fact that I responded to him in defense of another person is cause for attack? Is it because he’s not a “regular” and therefore can say whatever he wants as long as he’s fighting the oppressive PK regime?
2. If you and I were the only people having this discussion I would use the word “I”. Since Ed has been responding to you as much as I have, as well a few others, I used the word “we”. That IS correct grammar, in case you were wondering. “Hit back” was a euphamism for commenting back. Ed and I (we) are commenting back at you. As comforting as it may be for you to think, “ZOMG KUNSPIROCEE!!!” that just isn’t the case.
3. “I don’t even recognize ANY of the names! Are they just lurking in the shadows waiting for something to make them jump out and yell “OFFENSIVE!”? ”
This is what I ACTUALLY said. It was in response to someone asking where all the concern trolls came from. I didn’t put the whole quote in there because I’m pretty sure you’re able to scroll down and find it for yourself. However, at NO time did I say people need to post more if they’re opinions need to be valid. If you’re just going to read the comments and not say anything, fine. If the ONLY time you’re going to comment is to say, “this is offensive/stupid/unfunny/ take it down” then don’t be surprised when you’re not taken seriously. If, on the other hand, you’re going to say, “this is offensive and I don’t think it should be here for these reasons” then most people will respond in kind. This isn’t a “group mind” thing, it’s a common sense thing. You don’t start a new job and go in on the first day being an asshole and expect your new coworkers to take you seriously. You don’t start any new endeavor in life by being an asshole and expect to be taken seriously.
5. Now it’s your turn. Feel free to not respond to anything I’ve said to you directly and continue taking previous posts of mine that weren’t directed at you out of context to “prove” the point that you’re being oppressed.
*their opinions*
You know, I have to agree with you. The more you try to undo your many contradictory posts, the more you twist semantics to prove your point, the more puffed up with indignation you get, the more you try to deny that you run around defending each other, the more you accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist, the crazier you sound. And you’re right, the misspellings and punctuation really do make it sound even crazier!
My question… When dd I have elite flaming skills? I could have sworn I was just posting to either be an ass, humorous, or some combination with candy thrown in from time to time.
*snort* At least someone got it. Every message board has its regulars, and it’s funny to watch them circle the wagons to protect one their own. IMHO, he probably just need to get laid once in a while.
get laid, get the sticks out of their anuses, whatever.
I thought that the stick in the arse IS how they get laid.
And this is exactly what I was referring to. You want to align yourself with this mentality, expect to be abused. You see, Bet said ‘he’, slash said ‘their’, and you followed suit with ‘they’. I can only assume from your comment that this encompasses me, so now you have personally attacked me. Should I just take it and let it pass?
They could do something useful when the get the stick up there… like but a brish head on it so they clean as they go…
I love your idea, but you should really take it out and clean it once in a while. Aww, did I cross the troll line there?
Go ahead, take it. Up the ass. Like you always do. Aww, was that a personal attack?
Hmmmm. Trolls are thick tonight. Must be the full moon and the free egg nog down at the Y.
The only trolls here are the regulars, apparently you have to establish credibility *SCOFFS* to say something offends you.
Being called a troll here is more of a compliment than anything. Too much group-think and ass kissing is required of the regulars. But you do get eddie as your diaper-changer, if you’re into that sort of thing. Rumor has it that his lips are the softest.
Matt, correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t YOU a regular? I’m certain I’ve seen you on here before..
Oh, Jules, I think he IS a regular! Quick, run and tattle to the Dork Dragon Lord that there’s a dissenter! Maybe he’ll give you an extra spoonful of gruel tonight!
Sorry again guys, it seems the best I can do
is wait for my prescription to be filled.
Meanwhile, I’ll try to be civil, and when I
can’t help my childish insults I will apologize.
Believe me, I’m am so very very sorry for
all of this.
I am on here some. I won’t succumb to the group think and I won’t attack someone because I don’t recognize the name.
@Jules: No, Matt is a regular troll here, nothing more.
@Kona: Seriously, I like you better than Matt, because you show potential for humor, wit and intelligence. If you could abandon the personal attacks, you’ll make friends here–promise. (We tried to work with Matt, but one dismal failure doesn’t ruin it for all, right?) C’mon, give it a try. We have snacks…
She’s right you know.
@Rho, sorry, I occasionally tend to mix up names. I generally like what Max has to say, dyslexia did the rest. Thanks for clearing it up : )
NP, Jules. We regulars need to band together. Evidently we aren’t allowed to speak to those outside of our wagon circle!
@rhorho: Thanks for the invitation. Snacks, you say? My backstage rider includes marshmallow Peeps, Maui Onion Kettle Chips and Hendrick’s gin. Can you accomodate?
Seriously though, right now I’ve got a sockmonkey posting as me here and on another PK thread, wtf? I know who it is and it’s someone inside, but I don’t want to say who. I’ll deal with him on my own. I’m a pretty big stickler for fair gamesmanship, so tell me honestly, is this sort of thing standard on PK or is it discouraged/verboten, as much as it can be of course. I’m talking about regs, not trolls, amateurs or once in a blue moon posters, obviously.
“is this sort of thing standard on PK or is it discouraged/verboten”
Can’t say I’ve been here long enough to really now, but I’d say it’s definitely not standard. The “Terms of Use” refers to “the Community Guidelines”, I’ve never any such, so I guess it’s mainly self-moderating. In a case like what you describe, I’d contact the admin.
“really now”? Know, of course. Kah-now!
@Danbala: Thanks for the info. I should have been more specific about my little sockmonkey friend. By “someone inside” I meant that it’s a PK reg. Sort of a sideline guy, but reg nonetheless. So my question is, do the PK regs do a good job of self-modding, again, within reasonable expectations? I don’t want to have to watch my back constantly, especially if I’m supposed to be among friends. I’m not trying to be insulting about the community here, but it’s supposed to be fun, right? Anyway, thanks again.
Something sounded off about the comments. It happens, and it’s a shame that some jerks have to act like that. You sound like a reasonable person (from this post obviously). Welcome : )
We do a decent job of self-policing, but sometimes people get through the cracks
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Usually a troll is only called a troll if they jump out of the wood work and start yelling, making baseless claims, or other wise conduct themselves in a manner that doesn’t allow for conversation. There are some people who we try to de-troll, but it doesn’t always stick.
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And dont’ be fooled, a lot of regulars troll here and there, but they are usually obvious about it and only doing it to make a point. AND they will own up to it if questioned or called on it.
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Enjoy
And from my point of view, I look dimly upon anyone that would resort to using someone else’s name. Konamali, you do seem reasonable, and aside from this thread, you sound like someone that could be a contributor. The other’s well, who knows. I try and take things as they come, but will admit to taking things personal sometimes.
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FYI, a couple of the ‘regulars’ had the same problem you’re having but it became obvious who it was. Hopefully this twit will show themselves out as well.
Could be Bob, I guess. He hasn’t shown any of his faces here for a while, so it was only a matter of time.
@froofrou: Thanks. I guess I’ll figure out who’s nom de plume belongs to whom eventually.
@eddie: Thanks also. I try to be. I’m man enough to admit that I get a little cheesed when I see someone treated as a troll when they’re just naive, but as you said, take things as they come.
@Kuromisa: I’m obviously a newbie here, so I don’t know who Bob is. I do know who my sockmonkey is, so maybe it’s Bob using one of his other names. Thanks for the info.
So is getting laid your only real insult? Anybody irking you to any degree is just not getting any sex?
Maybe if you got laid more, you could come up with better insults.
You forgot to remind him that it doesn’t happen alone…
What? Why break the kid’s heart so close to Christmas?
She’s probably just trying to make sense of that postal attack you made on her a bit up the thread. It was a totally effed up thing that you said, and you still sound pretty tightly wound, so I can completely understand the assumption. Flame on!
He was wearing camos and carrying an AK47?
Why does no one tell me the fun part of these things?
I think you have to put on the aluminum foil hat to receive the super secret fun communiques.
(Sorry, I realize I’m a noob here, and an unpopular one at that, but you seem like you have a great sense of humor and the ability to laugh at yourself, so I hope that my little “insult” isn’t premature. I just couldn’t resist.)
I’m surprised you don’t have a problem with him. After all, he’s a “regular” too.
The difference is, he seems to be able to think for himself as opposed to the general lock-step mentality of the rest.
Because not everyone is laughing at the insulting responses of you and Zorad, it means we can’t think for ourselves? Many of the people on
this forum debate, even argue, but when they act like douchebags, they getcalled on it. And we all have our own opinions.
Well, I’m sure you have way more experience with douchebags than I do. Rumor has it that the boss man likes his rectum nice and pinky-clean.
You’re a joke too. I’m convinced you and whoever up there are socks.
I’m not surewhether or not they’re socks, but it’s so much fun to watch them argue about it.
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I’d better start getting on over the weekends; I missed a lot, huh? *sigh*
She doesn’t know what she’s talking about. From the looks of things around here, you get your ass licked more than enough.
She probably got a good look at Lynn and realized that nobody would fukc that pig. Then again, beggars can’t be choosers, can they?
Again, I’m laughing but wtf are you talking about?
sounds like just a bunch of personal attacks with the general theme being Lynn’s sex life. It’s funny though, it reminded my of Iago, with the visually suggestive commentary…just less subtle and more crass
Awww, poor widdow guy. Wasn’t subtle enough for his dewikett widdow sensibiwities. Hope his bottom didn’t get a rashie-washie.
This is a sock for Komanali. Like I said
before, please disregard my posts. I’m
having trouble sticking to a regular schedule
with my medicine. Again, I’m really really
sorry.
@ FauxNomins @ 8:27
Wow, posting under my screen name? Really? Weak, dude, really weak. Now that’s something only LukeWarm would stoop to.
All bitching a sh*t flinging aside, I agree that using someone else’s name is BS. I doubt if it’s DWN though, since he has had that happen to him in the past. My guess is it’s someone just wanting to fan the flames a bit more. So, yeah, it sucks when people do this to others here. But because there is no way for the site admins to control it, we just have to wait until they get tired and move on to their next project.
Eddie, I appreciate that you said that, truly. It takes stones to put down the swords in favor of fair play. Thanks.
I’ll take you at your word on DWN. I don’t know him other than this thread, but I really do think his behavior towards Bet was overkill, needlessly cruel and completely unnecessary. She’s obviously an amateur, and I have a soft spot for the naive. It’s just bad form to stomp someone that harshly when they really don’t deserve it. I won’t back down from calling him out on it. I know that’s not a popular view here, and I don’t expect you to agree, but I stand by it.
Anyway, thanks again for reaching out. Restores a bit of the old faith in mankind and all.
It’s all good with me too!
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@Nomin: All things considered Nomin, I know you’re lying. Try to take better care of yourself. I have a very good idea of who you are and hopefully your mother is okay. I also hope your scars have healed since last we spoke. After this barrage of posts, I am going to be done in this area. So have fun.
@ DorkWyrm: Dude, get over yourself, I’ve bought toilet paper that’s rougher than you. But run along, the hobbits need you.
I don’t agree with your previous comment, but I love this one.
I’m glad that my memory isn’t as selective as yours. For some reason, I can’t look at the house without thinking about the four people who burned to death inside.
I am just glad that I can be selective at all about my memories. A lot of things I just don’t get to detach from so I end up in a bad funk anyway. I can detach from a picture that shows no people. I don’t know what to say to the fact you think I am missing out on something because I am not mortified everytime I see this picture.
Were I seeing the bodies, I would be just as disturbed as the rest of you but I can detach from this and I am glad for it. I’m obsessive enough without imagining screams the rest of my day.
Looking at your posts and your determined attitude to not only be right but to show others why they’re wrong for having feelings leads me to believe you wouldn’t actually care if there were bodies. It seems as if you are saying that simply so that you don’t come across as a completely horrible guy. But there is a problem in this country with being able to detach ourselves from things.
My mother is a grade school teacher and was out doing recess duty one day when a car crash occurred just outside the playground area. Two of her students began to laugh and point at it. I can’t say as anyone was injured by it, but still, the idea that children can personally see something that is potentially detrimental and laugh at it without being affected is a scary thought.
How dare you accuse someone of not caring there are people in there…
For some, it’s WHY the picture is funny…
(This place needs better smileys – Think ‘Devil’ there)
Nice. Nice : )
And the rest of you seem determined in the first place to call me horrible. Maybe I wouldn’t bother posting if you hadn’t in the first place? Quite the conundrum, isn’t it.
It isn’t about being right. There isn’t a Right here. People aren’t wrong for having feelings. I never said that, now did I? Didn’t even infer it. I simply said we all cope differently. I am just disagreeing with the idea that I have to break down every time I see a sad picture.
So think I am horrible if it makes you feel better. I stated what I think, so assume what you will.
On another note, damn I must be bored to come here. I am rather disappointed in myself for bothering. Oh well, a little emotional masochism never hurt.
No, you’re not horrible, just a fussy-butt!
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That’s “Little Mister Fussy-Butt” to you, Eds!
*tries to keep straight face*
*breaks down giggling*
Delightfully Pert Little Mister Fussy-Butt… I bet it’s like a nearly ripe melon cut in half back there…
Wow, I so didn’t need that visual.. thanks so much for that! hehe
LOL… Apparently I need to get laid more. There is an irony to that statement that just is either too funny or too ignorant to be funny. I am still getting a chuckle though.
Yeah I’m not sure more sex would be all that beneficial to you DWN. ; )
Get it right, will you! It’s Dork Lord God of the Blade of the Fussy-Butts.
Please disregard this. And all of my previous posts.
It’s no excuse, but I’ve gone off my medication and
have gotten really tangential and abusive. My
doctor just called and reminded me to take my
pills. I should be ok in a little while. I’m really, really
sorry.
Here too? OMFG, you actually made me laugh!
“…and his gracious words for the pilot.”
I know. I was profoundly amazed by that. I can’t even imagine being coherent, much less ready to forgive and wish the man well at that point.
I think it’s significantly harder to find even dark humor in tragedy that touches you closely. I once had a propane tanker blow up on the interstate near my house, killing several other motorists. Now, I’m quite sure that somebody, somewhere, could find humor in that, but having seen the aftermath myself, I don’t think I could (although I didn’t know any of the people myself). So I understand what you’re talking about, I think.
Sometimes, humanity manages to surprise me…
And dark humour in the face of death, madness, and general mayhem is a family standby for my lot. I look upon it as a very lucky happenstance, although most people just find it gross…
I do find that people can be at their best when they are having their worst day.
Rather heartening in a macabre sort of way. Then again, Misery always loves company.
Bet,
I agree with you. I’m down by the stadium. I can pretty much laugh at a lot of things but that man’s strength and courage through this shouldn’t be mocked with something like this. Totally agree.
Glad you and husband were able to connect quickly and reassure one another. We have friends up in that area and it took us a bit to get a hold of them.
Definitely not funny, very much distasteful, and hugely disrespectful. Sophomoric.
Honestly this is in such bad taste that I cannot believe it hasn’t been removed yet. People were killed, and to see all the people that found this caption amusing is rather disheartening.
Did you say that on the Iraqi PK pics? Or was Stalin correct, and the death of a few is a tragedy and the death of many a statistic?
True that, Unc. More recently, there was the Anarchy LOL. How many posts in that comment section were devoted to anger and pity over the death of the 15yo Greek boy? All of us are selective about what we choose to wail and sob over, lest we forget.
This is in incredibly bad taste.
too soon
Gonna need to do better than that to offend me.
I don’t even know what this is about…?
Google FTW!
I use to live near Miramar and was always terrified that something like this would happen. My heart really does go out to the husband and the rest of the family left behind.
I thought the armed forces stopped bombing the Koreans 60 years ago.
I was reading through this chuckling at all of the people getting so offended at this one occasion where people died, yet find others similar situations so amusing… and straight up LOL’d when I got to this one.
Well done sir.
Me too. It’s sooo wrong but so damn funny.
I want to see this SOOOOOO bad…I wish I had seen it before it was taken off. Boo.
Did you happen to see the link that says “Link to original image”?
As of last night, clicking that link took you to a page that said “this image has been deleted by its creator” or something to that effect.
It’s back now, but it’s possible that bootothat got the same message I did last night.
Oh, ok.. fair enough.
This really is just… really poor taste.
The man lost his whole family and is still trying to be stalwart and strong, lending his prayers to the pilot so that man doesn’t suffer for the accident.
I’d give some profanity but …. I can’t choose just one.
“lending his prayers to the pilot so that man doesn’t suffer for the accident.”
Let’s hope he’s praying to a different God to the one that flattened his house with a plane.
Prayers for someone doesn’t necessarily have to be to a God. I have them and they’re not for a God. Not all religions are based on that structure.
Thank you though.
I can’t believe this got enough votes to make the front page at all. You people that voted FOR it make me sick.
They are the same people who voted on the Texas Hurricane picture. We had this exact same fight then. Hell, we had this exact same fight on the Walmart lol.
So I am surprised by your surprise.
And the Zombie Reagan. And … Any partisan lol. Hell, whatever the lol is, there are people who get upset, and people who don’t.
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(Me, I only have an issue with the cries for censorship, really.)
(But it’s big.)
(The issue, that is.)
Damnit. As so often, I have to correct myself. I am also lightly offended by people who say “If you think this is even remotely funny, you are subhuman and you deserve to see your children be abused by a camel”-like things.
.
Issue.
Big.
Too.
you called?
I may use that one in the future… it has the right level of ‘peppy zing’
Camels are always useful for just about any form of insults, curses and the like. Way underused, that humpy beast.
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At least one member of our military agrees.
*remembers “camel hump” lol*
Hmm. That must’ve been before I started reading PK. I have to go sift through all dem dusty ole funnies some day!
Even the walmart pic didn’t have this many venom spitting trolls..
OH NO. A PICTURE THAT YOU PERSONALLY DON’T FIND AMUSING IS FUNNY TO SOMEBODY. THEY MUST BE A HORRIBLE PERSON. QUICKLY, TAKE THIS DOWN. NOT LIKE IT IS A PUBLIC SITE OR ANYTHING.
Also, I don’t see any of you crying “murder” when the picture relates to the lives of people who aren’t middle-class suburban families being lost. Seriously, it’s a bit hypocritical. Sure, it was a huge tragedy, but it’s a tragedy whenever anybody loses their lives.
You can find it funny if you want, you can find it offensive if you want. It’s a free country, after all.
Amen to that! It’s the internet people, there are offensive things all over.
And for once I agree with you. I’m sure some of the people who were offended by this googled “donkey show” once or twice.
It wasn’t funny because it wasn’t funny. But plenty of the FAIL blog pix aren’t funny. Let’s not take them all down.
Where did all these concern trolls come from?
some people wait to be offended…
Well the waits over!
True that! …and some people live in *this* world, where bad things happen. Very little of humor is painless.
As Mark Twain once said: “Humor is based on the suffering of someone else.”
(I don’t know if I’m remembering the quote correctly but that’s the gist of it.)
It CAN be fun to flame sometimes, but I really don’t see any thing flame-worthy about this image. All I see are adherents of the Church of Victims railing against those who won’t bow down and worship at the feet of people that had bad stuff happen to them. Sometimes bad stuff happens, but when it does happen it tends to be impersonal. Experiencing tragedy does not lift people to a higher plane where there can be no slings or arrows.
Please forgive me. I use this quote too often, but it fits:
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“Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die.” –Mel Brooks
Mel Brooks – A great Taoist Sage
I know, I don’t even recognize ANY of the names! Are they just lurking in the shadows waiting for something to make them jump out and yell “OFFENSIVE!”? Also, I thought we called them CareTrolls. You know, like CareBears, only WAY more annoying.
I guess no one told us that you had to be a recognized name here to post your personal opinion.
You missed the point altogether. The only time you hear anything is when something offends someone. It’s fine to post an opinion, but why only when you don’t agree with something?
didn’t you know? the regulars here do no wrong. point out when they act like trolls and you’ll get at least three of them ganging up on you. it’s a joke.
*sigh*
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I’d answer you, but your mind is made up. So whatever, ok? Bitch, whine, and howl at the moon for all I care. You’re just unloved and you want the world to know it.
Likewise, if you only lurk, and only post when you’re offended, don’t be surprised if you get a “WTF?” response. Jane, others and I are amazed at the sheer number of people coming out of the woodworks to be appalled, only to disappear again. As regulars, we can tell other regulars and noobs apart, that’s all. There’s no reason to inject snobbery here, seriously. We’re just confounded, nothing more.
Dude, hate to break it to you, but you could not possibly sound more snobbish. You think that because you post here the most, you get to decide what is valid and what isn’t? You get to decide that if someone doesn’t want to waste their time commenting on this until it just absolutely offensive, that they don’t get to voice their opinion? here is no way of denying that is exactly what is going on here.
No one is trying to decide who’s opinion is more valid. It’s just a bit annoying to only hear from people when they’re pissed off. That in itself is an opinion, so deal with it.
Matt has established his difficulty dealing with anything in excess of 3″ away from his nose, so it’s no surprise that he can’t distinguish a sound opinion from one of his own.
Go cry, emo kids.
Those of you who find this funny should be ashamed of yourselves. A young family was killed. You must have no hearts. This was an absolutely terrifying event for those of us who have to, you know, live here. Thanks a ton, guys. Hope this never happens to you.
Yeah, it’s only ok to laugh after an arbitrarily proscribed amount of time. Before that it’s horrible. Laughter is evil then. After though, it’s totally ok.
But now, you need strangers online to shame you. Because THAT’s totally going to have an effect on you.
Everyone should wait for a day where no tragedy occurs at all to crack any sort of jokes whatsoever. I’m sure a day on Earth with no tragedy should be coming up really soon. Let’s all hold our breaths.
Heh. I’m reminded of the old adage “tragedy + time = comedy.” So, what IS the appropriate amount of time to wait before letting the jokes fly? I mean, is it safe to poke fun at the Hindenberg yet? Just curious…
Goodness, no. Slight titter at Otto Lilienthel is permitted.
OK… that’s the BEST comment on the thread to date… quite made my day :¬>
damn it, im dutch, i just wanna see it.. stupid wankers for deleting it>.<
Ditto. ):
Click ‘recaption this’ for the image. The text is listed above.
If it’d been a picture of a building in Iraq with the same caption there wouldn’t be half as much crying and whining in this thread, some people really need to get over themselves. If you don’t like it there’s a big red and white “close” button on the top right of your browser.
I do not care whether it made it to the front page based on user votes. You have a choice whether you want to put it up or not. It is YOUR responsibility! You blame the people voting. Too many in poor taste. I am outta here.
Reading PK monitor note FAIL.
Good, buh-bye.
It was deleted when I tried to see it. I cannot make a proper angry comment about something awful that happened if I do not see the caption.
Anyway … It is too soon and it will never be funny, and should never be made fun of.
dugg it
Who said art had to be in good taste?
When people die in an accident, NOT FUNNY.
But when it’s intentional laugh it up.
Heeehehehehe.
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I guess this website has accepted advertising money and is no longer an open forum. that disappoints me.
And what gave you the idea it’s NOT an open forum?
I dunno. I don’t really find it offensive, per se. I mean, it’s not like the caption says “It sure is hilarious that people died and this guy is all alone.” I didn’t even know what the picture was in reference to until I researched it AFTER seeing the caption (admittedly my own fault, but the point remains the same). It’s sort of in the same vein of parents being offended for their children based on sexual innuendo. If a child is old enough to recognize the innuendo, then they probably won’t be offended by it (with some exceptions, of course). I mean… I get WHY people are offended by it, but it seems a little like we’re making a mountain out of a mole-hill here.
Besides, this is the same website that makes fun of people for losing their jobs based on the economy. Or people burning and dying in Iraq. Not to mention that the caption is only marginally funny at best.
What I want to know is where the hell the line is and why the hell I can’t see it?
I paraphrased Stalin a little earlier… and there isn’t a line, really, just people’s general inability to cope with large numbers…
I think all the people out there who get “offended” by every little thing are ruining this country. You can’t do or say ANYTHING anymore without “offending” someone. Yes, its tragic. And not to sound insensitive, but I don’t know them. I sympathize with him, but I can still find humor in a picture and caption. I’m not laughing at the deaths, I am laughing at a PICTURE with a FUNNY CAPTION. Get over yourselves. You are not that important that we should all think about every single person in this world’s feelings and adjust how we speak or act for fear SOMEONE SOMEWHERE might get offended. You’ll never get anything done that way, cause there will ALWAYS be somebody somewhere you offend. Billions of people in the world, its gonna happen. Deal with it and move on.
“I think all the people out there who get “offended” by every little thing are ruining this country.”
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Not that I think this will make you feel better, but it’s definitely not just an American thing.
i agree that it’s got some bad taste to it, but c’mon? removed!? i don’t care who did it, ichc oranybody else, but that’s against constitutional rights. it wasn’t illegal, and it wasn’t nice, but you can’t just do that.
btw, if you’re laughing at the picture and caption, that’s fine. if you’re laughing at the fact that people suffered during this event, f*** you.
“i don’t care who did it, ichc oranybody else, but that’s against constitutional rights. it wasn’t illegal, and it wasn’t nice, but you can’t just do that.”
Are you stupid? ICHC is not bound by the Constitution. No one has freedom of speech on this blog, except for what “freedom” of speech the site admins decide we have. They have every right to censor, delete or otherwise edit ANY content on this site, because they own all the content. Dumbass.
Actually it wasn’t totally removed, you can still view it if you click the link where it says:
Link to original image: INSURANCE: Bet you never thought you’d need military aircraft crashing into home liability, did you?
They made it so those that wanted to see it still could but you are just forewarned that you may not like it. They made it that way to try to stop people from boo-hooing about the fact that it made the front page, since apparently so many still don’t get it that pictures are voted on and whatever gets the most votes goes to the front page regardless of what ICHC thinks of it.
It was originally. I for one am glad they put it back up, I’d have never gotten to see what all the fuss was about otherwise.
So many experts of ethics on here, and yet none of you can do anything besides spill your self pretentious drivel on an LOL website. Makes me laugh
:::raises hand::: I made chocolate cake for my gaming group.
ROFL!! Thank you for providing the sweetest rebuttal evar!
this is quite pathetic. Go outside kids
Right, so being a self righteous douchebag is ok.
Yep. It is better than being a pretend philosopher
I’m sorry, I can’t hear you all the way up there.
*gives Jules steel umbrella, just in case*
And by up here, he means he’s up to his ears in…
Damn, Jules, I just can’t. You make it too f*cking easy. It’s no fun when you do that.
I’m getting all mushy in my old age.
I love all of the philosophers on here, such deep understanding of human nature. and yet… you accomplish nothing. Your display of “knowledge” here does nothing for you and only makes you seem stupid. And before any of you circle jerking regulars and self appointed guardians of the truth attack me (or “flame me” as you internet tough guys have called it, or call me a “troll) i do not intend to to change your mind, I can’t, but i want you to know that the rest of the world is out living, and laughing at you
Oooer! You mean that the world is divided into people who write on Internet forums on one side, and people who laugh at said forum writers on the other side and there is no connection between those groups?
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Then … what are you?
(Yeah, yeah, dnftt and all that, but I have so many leftovers in the fridge right now, and I really hate throwing away food.)
Then what do you care?
I’d be more offended if I knew what this picture is showing.
(other than burning wreckage, that is.)
Even if they do, time passes. I’m sure some day someone close to this man will say something along those lines. It may even be funnier. Hell, he might make the same joke to lessen the grief.
Dammit, I hate when this happens. Jules, for as much sh*t as we’ve been giving each other, I have to agree with you on this one. I’m sure that in 1912, making jokes about the Titanic in public, and probably privately as well, would have been unthinkable too. But time passes and Titanic jokes become mainstream. Difficult to imagine now, but I suppose in 50 years, maybe sooner, 9/11 jokes will be late night comedy fodder too.
/sigh
This should be placed back on the front page. People get too easily offended at things that are marginal in the grand scheme of things. I would be much more upset at all the economic jokes because there are thousands of families now without an income, soon to be without homes.
Prioritize, people. Prioritize.
IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES OR FAMILIES.
Dugg it !
I like this I dugg you