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Yes because the president has total control over how the economy goes, not congress its all the presidents fault.
yes congress has some control, but he has some control over congress and military and just about everything else. seriously, if your still standing up for bush… woooow
The congress has power of the purse, not the president. The president has no control over congress. You are an idiot. There are a thousand things you can rip on Bush for, but this was Congress and the Federal Reserves fault.
No worries though, it was a Republican congress that led us up to this point, so you can just hate on them.
l2haten00b
The president signs off on the budget congress presents. If he doesn’t like it, he vetoes it, and the congress has to pass another. This actually happened in 2006, and the dems caved and gave Bush everything he wanted. Being executive means taking responsibility for what happens on your watch. You, sir, are the idiot.
3/4ths override anyone? No? Oh, well then. If congress had voted on what the nation needed and not partisan lines, we might not be in this problem.
dude
the recession (or at least the whole housing market thing) had it’s beginnings during the clinton administration.
it wasn’t all bush.
Oh my, you’re so right! The president’s actions have no effect whatsoever on global events which can influence the economy. And he certainly has NO SAY in any kind of regulatory regime or the enforcement thereof that could keep corporations in line. Idiot.
BDS – yet another BDS caption.
Hey ya know what is going to be really funny soon? When the dems put in place the card check program – it will be hilarious!
British Deer Society?
Botox Denial Syndrome?
Because Democrats Say?
Boisterous Dirty Sex?
I think we have a TLA failure… there again, does anyone really care what it is?
Texas Library Association? (Sorry Unc, but I just *had* to do it.)
Close enough !
Ahh, we’ve been graced with a Malkinite. Could you ask your Mistress why it is that everyone who has an issue with a conservative politician is automatically labeled with Derangement Syndrome? My theory is that it’s easier to slap a tag on someone than it is to actually address their arguments, but I’d like to hear the official explanation. Thanks!
That was supposed to read <politician> Derangement Syndrome.
Color me commie, but it seems to me as though we are experiencing an extreme shortage of left-wing trolls. Any theories?
The ‘left’ is feeling pretty satisfied with the outcome this cycle and the right wing is feeling pretty busted on. The stereotypical reactions are the left gets whingey and the right gets even meaner and nastier and less thoughtful.
Great point! Perhaps we lefties have too many battle scars to “get our Smug on” rapidly. School of hard knocks?
Moi, thoughtless?
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*sniff*
There, there, Eds. You might be thoughtless, but you’re ever so much fun!
*tosses ed’s favorite squeaky toy across the room*
Awwww! Eddie’s fun *and* thoughtful!!
*tosses ema’s favorite squeaky toy across the room*
Well, you’re not stereotypical, you crazy Australian Liberal, you!
:^P
Eddie’s so not a liberal though… well at least not in title. But he’s liberal
where it counts, in our hearts!
I think Slan is referring to the fact that U.S. Republican = Australian Liberal. I don’t fully understand it, but it’s an upside-down place.
Ah ok. Well my comment still stands. We do love us some Eddie.
Possible connection to classical liberalism?
Yes, we all loves Eddie!
Sorry–Just got back from looking at ICHC LOLz, and haven’t converted all the way back to English…
I still don’t fully understand it, and I freaking live here!
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Having said that, I don’t get to vote ’cause I’m not a citizen. So y’all are stuck with me voting in the U.S. according to my concience.
*hands Eds a letter “s”*
There. Now you have a conscience.
;o)
Argh! The dreaded ’s’!
This is one of the most ignorant photos and captions yet on this site….
Have people lost ALL creativity???
pretty much, but we like talking to each other, so this serves a useful function. Although the ocassional funny lol is worth chasing.
Oh hell, there IS a picture.. I completely forgot to look at it.
oops.. formatting fail.. hehe
Gotcha, bud — how’s tricks?
Great! Got a bit peeved a few lol’s back, but figured I would let that one go. Otherwise, S.S.D.D. (if ya know what I mean.)
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I have been wondering though, do you cop as much from Jane as some do here? I can imagine the interesting discussions that must go on.
Damn double post — sorry about that and yeah, we’ve always had major political discussions, that’s why she told me about this site and got me involved…we tended to avoid each other on this site at first, until she had the need to speak out, now she’s always correcting me…maybe I should turn her over my knee or something. Anyway now that her big brother is back from his all expense paid trip to Iraq our discussions at home should expand somewhat.
All I can say is, for my part, you and Jane have both helped me expand my viewpoint. I’m sure that there’s a lot that we disagree on, but that’s ok! And for the record, your gold in my book, even though you are an ex-ground pounder.
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I assume the son is Army as well?
Thanks, likewise and back atchya, if we can’t agree to disagree then where are we and why should we bother? Noone disagreed with Hitler, Stalin or Saddam… do we really want that kind of world?
Yes my son was Army, as was his brother — at least 4th generation, his paternal great grandad and maternal great great grandad were soldiers in WWI, his paternal granddad and grandma were soldiers in WWII, dad a lifer soldier, but after 12 years he’s hanging it up, after surviving three IED’s and earning a purple heart, he deserves it.
I would say your son deserves more then a purple heart, but unfortunately, not everyone extends their respect to those in the military. At least it’s not as bad as it was in the 70’s. Still, thankfully you have him back in one piece. Those IED’s are a scary pieces of work and to have survived three is amazing!
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My family were all Navy/Marines, although my sons decided that the military wasn’t for them. I can respect that, but I think it would have given them some great life experiences. Still, they have to do what is right for them. At least they got that choice. Some of us didn’t.
Gotcha, Bud — How ya been?
Of course. He’s an easy target, so shoot him down.
kthxbai!
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That would be Cheney’s job, he’s the one with experience.
Perhaps, but do we have proof the guy has ever hit an *intended* target?
In the words of James Bond, slightly changed to fit the situation “Surely the professional courtesy wasnt to hit you in the face, but to miss the rest of you.”
LMAO!! Good to see you again, Dear!
I’ll try to interject my smart ass-ish comments here and there. But works slow
so they’ve been on us more about actually doing work and not screwing up.
Its great to have a job when the boss tells you to pay more attention because
mistakes cant be afforded, and he laughs when you say “I got this job for the money not to be told not to make mistakes!”
Sounds like you’re a wealth of smart ass-ish comments. I bet you would be a fun coworker. Levity makes the day go by so well, and reminds us all to lighten up from time to time!
Yeah Im the guy when sh*t falls apart on Monday starts singing The Carpenter’s
“We’ve Only Just Begun”
I’m more of a “Welcome to the Jungle” type, but the sentiment’s the same…
With the people I work with, it’s more like “Bungle in the Jungle.”
Well, that’s all right by me!
I’ll write on your tombstone, “Thank you for dinner.”
* W H O O S H *
I jumped a verse, love, that’s all. First line that popped into my head. Link to complete lyrics above.
Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder? ;^)
D@mn that Jethro Tull and his buddy Monty Python. Neither one of them talks English right! *shakes fist; wakes, then immediately bores cat*
I was young when this song came out, and probably never knew the lyrics past the chorus, though I thought I did. Thank you for the link, but you shouldn’t go to so much trouble.
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I’m not frightened. I usually scoff at your sort.
52 days left.
“Yes because the president has total control over how the economy goes, not congress its all the presidents fault.”
So in your opinion as far as the economy goes it doesn’t matter that much who the President is? So all of that noise from the Republican party about how Obama is going to “tax and spend us to death” is meaningless nonsense?
Own up to it, right-wingers: Bush was a complete disaster for the United States. The Republicans got great mileage out of that “We don’t need a President who is smart or who understands things – it’s all very simple!” bull, but it should come as no surprise that when you put an idiot in the White House, you get bad results.
There are plenty of intelligent Republicans. McCain was one of them, though his Palin selection undermined his strength. The next time you guys have to nominate a President, pick another smart one – and this time don’t push him into selecting a moron for his VP. That “an idiot can do it” strategy is an obvious mistake, and it’s anti-American.
Seriously?
Clinton’s deregulations had nothing to do with this? Really?
The deregulation that happened under Clinton – which he approved of – did have plenty to do with it. So did the ones that happened under Reagan, and the Elder Bush, and the current Bush.
That’s exactly why we need to start admitting that it takes intelligence to lead the country, and stop pretending that you can save the economy by playing Santa Claus with tax cuts, deregulation, and “cutting pork”.
A really good first step would be for the Republicans to stop undermining their best candidates just to placate their wacko right wing base. There are millions and maybe even tens of millions of us fiscal conservatives out here who won’t vote Republican simply because the Republicans so consistently put the Christian Right ahead of the United States.
Amen! A rare voice of intelligence!
Won’t last. People who invoke facts on PK are almost invariably branded ’socialist’ and then universally vilified…
But, I thought Clinton was considered intelligent? What you are saying is we need to elect an economics wiz? Ok, then what about military and foreign policy expertise? You will never find anyone intelligent enough in all areas with enough charisma to get the votes, I just don’t beleive the two qualities exist together in enough candidates. What both parties do is find someone they believe people will vote for and then he/she selects a team with enough experts to advise. I don’t believe the economic situation is the presidents fault, we have been living off credit cards and then home equity for many many years now, not to mention the latest push to get people in homes. All this drives up demand and prices and it was bound to fall at some point.
I agree with your diagnosis at the end: the whole “charge it and worry about the price tag later” philosophy was definitely the problem, and the “get people into homes they can’t afford” madness sure set us up to fail. But a President could most certainly have show a little leadership – for example in suggesting that instead of putting people into homes they can’t afford, we start building homes that people CAN afford. Targeted tax credits can do that kind of thing. I’d be impressed if you could point to one national-level politician who has made that suggestion (honest: if you know of one, I’d like to know more).
As for one person having the expertise in all of those areas – no, of course not. That’s why you have advisers. Still, it’s pretty hard to go after good expert advisors when your entire campaign was built on ranting about experts’ “elitism”.
Bottom line: intelligence matters. If the Republican party is going to resurrect itself and do some good for the nation, it will first have to forcibly disconnect itself from the whole anti-intellectualism nonsense. I’m sure you noticed that when Palin was chosen for VP, several of the prominent loyal Republicans – Kathleen Parker and Christopher Buckley for two obvious examples – stood up for the party against the silly pandering. I know you guys can do it – listen to your smarter wing, and grow out of that anti-intellectual nonsense.
In the meantime I’ll be over here trying to help the Democrats grow out of that childish “race and gender” obsession.
Well, I’m not entirely convinced that elitism = intelligent. According to the dictionary it’s more like snobbery and is associated with the wealthy or a select group of people. There can be non-elitist intellectuals, I don’t think Palin was unintelligent she just is not very strong minded and has incredibly poor instincts. For a candidate to get elected it’s more important in my opinion to be likeable. If they are intelligent too you have a real winner.
Elitism =/= intelligent. And goodness knows, I’m acquainted with some intelligent people who lack common sense.
But it bothers me that many voices in this country seem to enjoy running down intelligence. Smart kids are called ‘nerds’ rather than respected. African American kids who study are accused of ‘acting white’. Intelligent political candidates are referred to as ‘elitist’, without producing any evidence of their having ‘dissed’ the less educated… Sometimes I feel like this country is moving towards an anti-meritocracy!
Idiocracy.
You know, I think the phenomena you are describing stems from early in our history to tribal days when it was frowned upon to stand out or act differently from the rest of the tribe. Conformity was encouraged so everyone would get along and feel comfortable.
Not that it’s a good thing!
In the wild, though, it does keep members of the group from being attacked by predators. Change something about a single individual in a group, and typically, that’s the one that gets eaten first. Interesting, huh?
‘Moving towards’???
Viking Gal made up a word. Is that your question? Assuming so, here is another way to put her words, and ck’s reponse:
“…is moving towards an anti-meritocracy!”
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“…is becoming a democracy that punishes merit.”
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ck: “Idiocracy”= “democracy of idiots”
Actually, I think fjaradvax was saying that ‘moving towards’ is not as appropriate as a comment along the lines of ‘have become’ or ‘have been for a long time’
Oops–my bad. Thanks for catching that!
Weak minded and poor instincts… yet she’s showing no signs of removing herself from the gene pool…
You are showing your distinct unintelligence by not thinking that Palin is unintelligent.
“the “get people into homes they can’t afford” madness sure set us up to fail. But a President could most certainly have show a little leadership – for example in suggesting that instead of putting people into homes they can’t afford, we start building homes that people CAN afford.”
OK, will somebody please explain this to me in short words that I can understand?
For at least the last couple of years, I haven’t been able to pick up a newspaper or turn on the TV news without hearing about how there’s a housing crisis, how the housing market is circling the drain, how it’s the worst blah blah for housing since the Great Depression, how houses are now worth half what they sold for five years ago, etc. etc.
Granted that I haven’t done exhaustive research on the subject — however, I am good enough at math to understand what “half” means. So, if houses are worth half what they were, does that mean I can now buy a 200K house in a nice neighborhood for 100K? No? Why not? Are houses worth half, or not? If housing values are in the tank, why wouldn’t it follow that housing PRICES are equally low? Is it only a crisis for those who are selling their houses? How is that even mathematically possible?
Well, I can maybe put this into persepctive (or at least help). When I was living in California in the 80’s I bought a house that was valued at $66,000. Three years later it was worth $115,000 (almost double what I paid for it). In 1992 I was moving and wanted to sell the house, and the value was $35,000 (half what I paid just 5 years earlier). The value of houses is relative to when the house was bought, not the original value.
One of the issues seems to be around the “Independent” regulator not only telling banks what they wanted to hear, but massaging figures when asked to.
A lot of the bad risk sold wrapping in ’safe’ packages by US banks to foreign banks, with investments being stuffed post sale with portfolios that wouldn’t
bear scrutiny is more the issue than simply ’sub-prime’ lending caused it.
If the banks had wished to avoid sub-prime, they simply had to implement the safe guards in the regulation, which relied on independent auditing and risk assessment, thus the Bank wouldn’t be declining to lend, the risk assessment auditor would. However, we’re mostly looking at graft between banks who knew it would implode run the way they were running it, and ‘independent’ auditors on kick back, while the banks then tried to sell each other the time bomb before it stopped ticking, using ever more and more baroque methods of concealing the risk until there wasn’t even honour among thieves…
The US budget deficit is a different, although related ball game, and mostly offset by Social Security in the US the Clinton days, although what Clinton did was pretty impressive compared to the Reagan/GH Bush driving the whole thing into the ground and then digging hard to git them damn russkies.
Having said that, the whole thing was started by the Carter admin and continued by the Reagan and Bush admins, and if the USSR hadn’t collapsed, Clinton would probably have continued, although ‘probably’ is a difficult word.
I still think that the single largest exposure has been the selling of Bonds to the likes of China, The Gulf states, Japan… The Chinese have a long memory and no love of either the West in general and the US and UK in particular (Opium war, partition of China, etc). If anyone thinks 200 years is a long time, the occupation in Tibet in the 50s was payback (and is continuing payback) for a war and genocide committed by the Tibetans 700 years before. Never be fooled into thinking Chinese pragmatism will continue to outweigh their desire for revenge. When it becomes clear that the US and the West has nothing left to offer, then look for the turn of the screw. something that may actually precipitate that would be the introduction of incentives for industry to return jobs to the local countries. They have a lot riding on that, and it will just piss them off.
Of course, that’s just my opinion.
Your “opinion” sure has a lot of facts tied to it…something to get used to. Thank you for the analysis, especially the description of China’s durable memory. I have tried to express a similar notion, but just sputter along, saying crap like “woe to us when China starts sending invoices,” and other rot.
Oh, and notice that your comment is completely unconnected to the reality going on here. I never said anything remotely suggesting that Clinton’s deregulations had nothing to do with our economic problems, yet you bring that up as though it were the main point of my comments.
I suggest that right-wing talk radio is leading you into fighting against imaginary enemies. That is, after all, its main role in society. Here’s a little news: the mass media lie to you.
The call of the frightened conservative: “Clintondiddit! Clintondiddit!”
I’m scared, PM. You’re a leetle too good at that!
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But wait, shhhhh, what’s that other call I hear… “Bushdidit!”, “Bushdidit!”
Will that be the call of Americans both right and left wing?
Or just the call of the sane?
I’m not sure, it’s a mystery to me… I hear it a lot though.
i’m no fan of bush, but damn all the pics of him lately (i mean everywhere, not just on PK) make him look like a sad-sack.
I know! I think it was Jane that pointed out it must be some sort of Republican plot to garner sympathy and support! ; )
I think it’s working too, I just want to cuddle him up, take him home, and feed him, like a stray puppy.
Sounds like what America said eight years ago, more or less.
About half the country could see it wasn’t paper trained, but half-plus-one-vote didn’t listen.
Yes, sometimes the cutest puppy doesn’t turn out to be the best behaved…
Ew, no, that puppy has issues. To the shelter with it!
LOL!!
What if I promise to get him neuterd (sp?) I promise I’ll remember to feed him and let him out. Pleeeeeeeaaaaaassseeeese Mom?!
He should have been neutered and muzzled before he tore up all of the furniture. Nope–that puppy goes. He’s the reason we can’t have nice things!!
*grumbles and walks out shuffling feet* You never let me have anything!
IF you have him put down, you can keep him… OK?
Well, thanks for ruining Christmas! I was going to try my hand at taxidermy, just for you. *puts Unc’s name on necktie list*
Im sorry dear, but I dont like pets who arent housebroken
Well, it WAS our turn. It’s like tag, now you’re “it”.
I guess so, it’s kind of silly though… Each side trying to paint the other side with ALL the blame.
You’re right. It’s doesn’t get us anywhere, does it?
Nope, but I am thankful that Obama seems to be able to reach across the isle and will be willing to work with both sides. That will be a good thing for us all. Actually I am beginning to suspect he is more conservative than Bush! I heard he was talking about paying down the deficit and that it would be his first concern after getting out of the recession. Now, if that can happen before we get attacked again by any terrorists… unlike poor India.
Since when is paying off debt a conservative thing? Because looking at the past couple of years, one would think that making debt is a conservative thing.
It’s *supposed* to be a conservative thing, I’m as confused as you are.
Juding by past history, making debt is conservative (Reagan, Bush II), and paying it off is liberal (Clinton). Barry Goldwater must be turning in his grave!
Darn, VG! You stole my comment!
You know the vikings: we keep pillaging! ;o)
Clinton raise taxes even though he promesed to reduce them. He also cut military spending. Clinton entered office with a military of 2 million and left the military with only 600,000. So when Bush came to office, 9/11 happen and hurricanes hit the southern states. So who came and voted for the war? Tom Daschle, Harry Reid and John Kerry but all deny it later when the war was unfavorable. And who came crying to the govt for money because of the hurricanes? Democrat run states.
Clinton was given some credit for the general fiscal and economic improvement from the Republican Congress.
‘Democrat-run states’ like Texas and Mississippi?
It appears that “Everest” is not a mountain of information.
Sure, now it’s silly, because now it’s your lot who are on the way down. Seems to me the GOP didn’t think it was that silly when they were fighting their way up.
That shoe sure pinches on the other foot, doesn’t it?
No, it’s always silly. I never ever made fun of Clinton and was upset with the attacks on him because of the whole Lewinsky deal.
You once again prove yourself exceptional, ema. :^)
Why thank you! You are very kind, I tend to think of myself as a oddball! : )
You’re not odd in my book! In fact, I think you’re fairly normal compared to most.
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Thanks!! Wait… does that mean I’m NOT exceptional?! LOL!!
Exceptional, yes. Odd, no..
The Libs on this site like “Uncle Tom Conservatives”- ones who don’t stand up to them very strongly.
Well, we don’t call them “libtards” but I think we do stand up to them often… You don’t have to call people names to get a point across. Why don’t you try it?
*snorts* Yeah, I’d like to see someone tell froofrou that she doesn’t stand up for her conservative beliefs. And Eddie and Charlie have gotten into some heated tussles before. As for Ema, she’s one of the nicest people I have ever talked to, and would be that way no matter WHAT her political beliefs. You see, they look at the world and they see good people who just happen to have a wide range of views on how to make the world even better, and that while debates may get heated, in the end we’re all still good people and we get more done when we treat each other with respect than if we resort to childish name calling and a “my side is better than your side” mentality.
I agree, and just want to add that people come here to share ideas. Others who just want to shout are wasting their time in this format. There is an understanding that we all want to improve our circumstances. Sometimes an argument can lead to a little dust-up, but, when the dust settles, we respect each others’ concern for the whole.
Trebinka has demonstrated several times that s/he has a fear of listening. Personally, the (granted, few) conservatives I’ve met here who are prepared to engage in civil discourse give me hope that we can move past the Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh era we’re in, and become a singular nation with competing teams of leaders again.
Frankly, if we can’t do it, I’m going to look into using acquiring “right of return” in the European Union and try to move to Denmark, Sweden, Norway, or Ireland.
(Grandma was born in the Netherlands. Any of you EU dwellers have any info on that?)
Hey, that means you are a viking, too! I guess I didn’t steal your comment after all…unless maybe you were being Irish at the time?
Yeah, I’m more Irish than anything else, except I’ve got the Dutch build. More like, Dutch crossed with an ox and given Irish skin and eyes.
That’s because Treblinka is the latest incarnation of MegaBob — BOB unless you spell BOB backwards you have to go back to your basement bunker and play with yourself since you can’t seem to figure out how to play nice.
An “Uncle Tom Conservative”? Huh, maybe I’m not a far right-wing nut job and actually see some validity in some of the platform issues of the Democrats. Just because I don’t tow the “Party Line” doesn’t make me an “Uncle Tom”. I’d say it’s time for you to come into the 21st century and put aside your bigotry and hate. It does nothing to foster a better America.
Y’all do realize you’re arguing with someone who deliberately named h*self after a Nazi concentration camp – and spelled it wrong?
DOH! Thanks for pointing that out..
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*headdesk*
@Slan: Where is DWN, anyway?
I infer from his posting times and a couple little comments he’s dropped that he only logs on from work these days.
Yeah, he’s way to busy on the weekends, if you know what I mean. ; ) In all seriousness, I’m not sure if Trebinka is Bob like Charlie claims, but if he is it explains the spelling mistake. Bob’s not the smartest troll under the bridge.
Trolls are too non-conformist to worry about spelling and grammar conventions, facts, or anything else we elitist types consider effective for conversation. Sad, in a way. *throws table scraps under the bridge*
@ Slan: Thanks! I was wondering how a N*zi reference could be left unwangified. Perhaps he should designate a weekend wang warrior.
Ah, alliteration win!
Why, thank you, Dear!
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Maybe we gals should take on those weekend wang duties…?
*ducks, while grinning*
Being relatively new here I’ve yet to witness this wangification ritual, else I’d have jumped on the issue sooner.
The ensuing testosterone buzz would kill us. A wang is dangerous in the wrong hands. *tries to make serious face*
Thats a shame DWN’s not around. I miss making strang awkward
semi homo-erotic responses to his wang comments..
*sighs* Good times.
@VG — your post has way too many opportunities for fun, yet strangely exciting responses.
@Slan: It will be a proud moment for you. I still remember how that wang danced…. *sigh*
Sigh…I was trying not to burst out laughing, lest I alert the teacher to the fact that I’m on a LOL site instead of doing work, and the guy sitting next to me asked what was so funny. My response? “I hang out with some weird people online…”
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I love you guys, you know that?
Awww! *warm fuzzy attack*
@CF I debated for a bit whether to make the ‘weekend wang’ offer. But I figured that this group would appreciate the concept. Just think: a viking and a couple of Texan gals, doing our own interpretation of the wang dance! Appliances optional… ;oP
OPTIONAL??? zOMG, Woman! “Appliances Mandatory” is the only way to wang!
OK ya’all just hit my TMI button!!! Stop for heaven’s sake before I have a heart attack. Oh and @Kuromisa, this teacher know’s youse guys are surfing the web — just don’t make it too obvious, oh and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
all in all you’re just another…
*salutes* Yes sir! This class is basically a rewind of tenth-grade bio, so it’s pretty easy. Plenty of time to play with you guys.
Obama {the Puppet Messiah} will fix everything! Just WHO pulls his strings?
He’s sooo smart, he’ll fire congress and all his staff and the military and save the world.
And then he’ll buy me that unicorn I asked for and give everyone floating cars and unlimited pie and get dogs and cats to get along and power the world by the shininess of Biden’s teeth ZOMG!!!!
I’m first in line for the floating car. I’ve been waiting on mine since the 70s! The future seemed so much cooler then.
I’ll settle for a jetpack.
Jetpack.. *drool*
I just want him to keep the Bermuda grass out of my flower beds.
If they could just bottle the life force of Bermuda grass…
I think all Bermuda grass grows from one main taproot, as big as a California Redwood, emanating from the molten core of the earth. (I haven’t researched it, but really think I’m right on this…)
You mean like the Armillaria ostoyae in Oregon, that spans over 2000 acres and has a continuous underground root segment 3.5 miles long? Damn, that’s a big organism.
Thank you for the name, ck! Truly amazing colony!! Have you heard about the Wisteria (aka Wistaria) in California? That puppy takes up an entire acre–fascinating!
I don’t need a jet pack; I just want a para glider. Much more fun, longer flights, and no fuel worries! Safer, too.
You’ll definitely be able to laugh at all us jetpack-wearing nuts when there’s a global oil shortage!
No, no.. the jetpacks will run on benzine, not an oil by-product. We’ll be gold!
Y’all will be gold all right- for about 50 seconds at a time!
Didn’t one of the Walton (Wal-mart) family guys get killed on one of those?
Wow, that’s something to carve on your tombstone…
I dunno, Id much rather that 5 second hydrated pizza from Back
to the Future III.
I’d rather have a pegasus (sp?) than a unicorn. I mean, sure, that gold horn is flashy, but what does it really do? A pegasus can fly!
What about a Pega-corn? As long as it’s a wish, go for it all!
I don’t know, pegacorn sounds dirty, and not in a good way. More like a “I don’t remember eating pegacorn” way. Unisus? No, not sure I like that either.
LMAO!! Maybe just a Pegasus with a machine gun mount, then.
I believe I’ll take that fantasy steed good madam!
Pegasus… Machine gun… my god, the way to world domination
is all so clear now! Quickly minions to my Genetics Lab of Sinister
Intent!
Now that is the evil warlord I was kidnapped and forced to marry! I love it when you use your sinister genius dear. *sigh*
Indeed, I may not always be doing business, but Im always open..
If only I could perfect the sharks with frickin laser beams on the ir heads!
This looks like a job for…Robocop on a Unicorn!
(linky)
Pegacorn sounds like an unappealing fetish, and Unisys sounds like an outdated computer system. “Wing-ed unicorn”?
It stabs people!
Yes, and if he fires the military, just imagin the amount of unemployment.
True enough ema. However, I will at least have to say that giving Bush discredit for our problems is a lot more timely.
Timely, yes! I’ll give you that one.
Well, he did manage to single-handedly erase all the incredible things Reagan did for our economy and nation. So, yeah, “Clintondidit!”
Also, let me remind you, in Bush’s first term, he was favored by everyone. But for some reason, he gets blamed for all the things other people do wrong. Plus, would you rather have Bush as President, or that flip-flopping weakling John Kerry? Dote on that.
One more thing!
You wanna know who’s responsible for the recession? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Sure, go ahead and buy an expensive house you can’t afford, it’s America! What’s that? The bank that gave out your loan a year ago forgot about it and wants the money back? And you don’t have that money because you don’t how to save? Don’t worry, it’s America! We’ll be juuuust fiiine!
“all the incredible tings Reagan did for our economy and nation.”?? Maybe in your state. But by the end of the Reagan years, the people of New Jersey were in a hole of despiration… Things had been good there, up until his second year in office.
Wyde is a teenager. He wasn’t even alive during the Reagan years.
Ah. That explains a lot!
What possessed you to spout that random accusation? I mean really, where did you get the idea I was a teenager? Stop the presses and hold the phone — I want to know where you got that from.
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P.S. I’m done arguing with you ignorant morons; it’s an insult to my intelligence. Why should I try to save others from stupidity? The few free-willed people left and I will look down on you from our pedestal of common sense. Let me know when you look up the >real< facts.
This is what you said earlier – “At my age, which I won’t disclose, the few right-minded adults left would consider me performing intercourse immoral.” — What else could you possibly mean by that? You are younger than a teenager?
Or he’s older than the oldest troll.
Troll-thuselah!
Oh now that was nice. *applauds*
I was hoping someone would get that one!
*grins; curtseys*
Ema FTW!
Cheers Ema!
Naw, he probably forgot that he said he was a teen and is terrified that someone is stalking him…
Since when was being called a teen an “accusation”?
When it proves that you dont know what you’re talking about.
See, you’re an intelligent teenager, and when you don’t know something, you ask. You don’t:
1) Forget you told everyone you were a teenager when you went off on some crazy tangent about how ema and I shouldn’t lust after firemen.
Or
2) Rhapsodize about Reagan: The Golden Years when you weren’t even alive to present some sort of first hand knowledge to back up your crazy ramblings.
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See the difference?
We didn’t realize you were the font of all knowledge. Having said that, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I’m sure we will get along just fine without you self-proclaimed superiority.
*offers Eds umbrella*
We need to be careful, Eds. The few free-willed people left and Wyde are looking down on us from their common-sense pedestal, and that fat kid on the right looks like he needs to pee!
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Actually, this one impressed me. Usually trolls do a hit-and-lurk. This one announced his pretend departure. Perhaps it has something to do with his name change.
Or possibly he’s suffering from a Jesus Complex and we’ll be subjected to his version of the Second Coming (no pun intended, thanks).
Ew. Just…ew.
Maybe because you’ve stated it right out before? I mean, honestly! Quit giving my age group a bad name.
“You wanna know who’s responsible for the recession? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.”
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I’d go further and blame all of us who live in “the western world”, at least. This recession is pretty global.
This crisis is global because we all are linked in the financial markets. Local councils in country Australia bought US mortgage secured investments. Those same packages that caused this problem. The only reason all countries are to blame for this is because we were all stupid enough to let ourselves get too linked to the US economy.
What I find funny is that this could not have happened if the US had kept in place the regulations put in after the great depression to prevent this sort of thing. Sure it would have put a tether on business, and may have reduced growth or profits, but citibank would still be financial at that point…
Good point. I don’t understand how deregulation passed under so many noses, especially after the Savings and Loan crisis beforehand. All I can guess is that greed is a powerful intoxicant.
Because no one ever believes that they’re the ones who are going to pay the price. They tell themselves that it’s going to be someone else’s problem and it could never affect them. Like you said, greed is most certainly a powerful thing.
But somehow it all boils down to “BUSHDIDIT! IF YOU DISAGREE YOU ARE A SLAVE TO BILLL O’REILLEY AND OTHERS RAAAWR!!!!!!!!”
Wow, Matt–I was going to ask how you were handling the University of Texas beating Texas A&M 49 to 9, but somehow, I think I have my answer…
At the end of the day, no matter what the scoreboard says, I am still an Aggie, and they are still t-sips, and that means much much more.
And as to my statement, you know it is true. No-one can express anything pro-bush, or even not anti-bush. I don’t really think he was a great president, or even really a good one. But it is incredibly ignorant and just plain stupid to assume that one man is responsible singlehandedly for the economic recession.
*sigh* Your last post and this one are going to the troll borderline, with caps shouting and speaking in absolute terms. You can say whatever you want on here, but YMMV, depending on how you put things. That, and perhaps you take other differing opinions too personally? If you can, pretend I wrote your last post, substituting “Clinton” for “Bush.” How inviting is it for you to answer, seriously? Does it encourage conversation? No it doesn’t: It’s just a rant, and, as such, it’s easy to blow off as a troll post. I don’t think you want that outcome. If you read the posts on here, you will come across your same sentiment expressed in non-troll language.
Now, my son, go forth and troll no more…or I’m calling your girlfriend! ;o)
trolling was not my intent. The EPIC CAPS was simply my evaluation of what this picture says. And I’m sorry, but it really is just stupid to believe that one man is responsible. Could I say that a single general is responsible for winning or losing a war? No, his soldiers have to fight. Can you say the coach of a football team is singlehandedly responsible for his team losing the big game?(Fuck, I just lost the game) It is true he plays are part, but he isn’t the reason it happened.
Totally. Read above, young man, and you will find that the consensus is that the current recession is a group effort. It took a lot of stupid moves by many people to create a mess of that size! Ranting is not attractive, nor is it productive.
Thank you VG!!
Matt, using your general/war and coach/game scenarios, can you see how it is not fair for you to troll me, Slan, Jane, PM and others for what the caption says? We had less of a role in creating the LOL than Bush had in creating the bleak economic outlook. Surely you can agree.
Well I don’t see how i was trolling you. I never personally attacked any of you. I simply interpreted what the picture said, sorry that got lost in translation
Your caps shouting had nothing to do with Jane’s post whatever. If you fail to see what you’ve done, there’s little else I can say to you.
Pissing in the wind…
*shouts from upstairs*
Sorry, I can’t hear you! I had a little “accident,” so I’m in the shower!
It had a little bit to do with it. It was adding on to her agreement that it was everyones fault, and that no single man was to blame, and i(poorly it seems) connected that to the message in the picture.
Unlucky to get hit by the bit that didn’t freeze in the arctic blast….
Well, I guess what we’re saying Matt is that without the benefit of face to face conversation it’s kind of hard to get intent, especially when you respond to my post with an angry post and didn’t specify that you were building on my post. It look like you were attacking what I said and a lot of people were confused by that. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve said inflammatory things before, and even some things that have incited anger, but that post in particular wasn’t one of them. I guess what we learned today (what? I AM a teacher) is that when you are misunderstood and people are all WTF dude, the best response is to say, sorry, that didn’t come out like I intended, explain what you DID mean, and we can all go about our happy way. Which is what you eventually did. We all happy now?
You’re either a teacher, or a South Park character.
Just so long as I’m not a teacher ON South Park.
Ms. Chokesondik? Oh god.. Im sorry… I had to!
Is she the one with her boobs around her navel?
Yes, ew
Now my favorite scene from south park ever
Mr. Garrison: Ok, now how about we get a answer from someone who’s not a complete retard. Anyone? Come on Children don’t be shy
Kyle: I think I know the answer Mr. Garrison
Cartman: *strange mocking noise*
Kyle: Shut up fatboy
Cartman: HAY! Don’t call me fat you fucking jew.
Mr G. Eric! Did you just say the “F” word???
Cartman: Jew?
Kyle: NO he’s talking about “fuck” you can’t say “fuck” in school you fucking fatass.
Mr.G: KYLE!!
Cartman: Why the fuck not??
Mr. G: ERIC!!
Stan: Dude, you just said “fuck” again!
Mr G: STANLEY!!
Kenny: fuck
Cartman: What’s the big deal? It doesn’t hurt anybody FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK
Mr.G: How would you like to see the school counselor?
Cartman: How would you like to suck my balls?
I watched that movie way too many times….
She was, not to say you share physical comparisons. I just didnt
see you as Mr. Garrison. It was more an emphasis on the name
*wink wink*
Ummmmm Matt? I didn’t say anything about Bush. Calm down. Don’t be like Wyde the crazy fourth grader.
He’s the Conservative Medical Student… more or less the same thing it seems…
Perhaps he’s practicing for “Western Medical Bedside Manner 101″ class. They could use more people like him at Saint Jude Thaddeus Medical Center.
Well said.
Nope, I am feeling fairly certain that the way the US has handled (or not handled) its financial issue and the rest of the world being linked to that is not solely to blame for the shape we’re in. Insane housing prices, loans with bad coverage, etc. have been happening here in Sweden for sure, and from what I understand, quite a few other countries have been happily prancing down that road.
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Of course the US is involved, but to think that they are the only reason it’s happened seems to me to think too much even of their influence.
Hm, I think I need to answer one more time, now with a cup of coffee in my hand. (Everything gets better that way.)
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I’d agree to it being the main reason, but not the only reason, to blame all of us to some extent. At least when looking at the problem on a smaller scale, I know there are many here now who have basically stopped shopping, because they are so much in debt from the “hayday”-years we’ve had. I’m still being a good citizen and spending as much as I can*. ;oP
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*) Yeah, okay, I’m just really bad at stopping myself from buying what I want. ;oP
“Plus, would you rather have Bush as President, or that flip-flopping weakling John Kerry? Dote on that.”
Kerry, of course. Obviously. Did you sleep through the last four years?
Come on. Reciting right-wing talk radio lines is not the way to help the United States. When you refer to Kerry as “flip-flopping weakling”, you might as well be picking your nose in public. You’re embarrassing yourself, kid.
Kerry’s snafu — apart from being as exciting as a recitation of British Parliamentary law — was in using the phrase “I was for it before I was was against it.” ZOMGORS! He’s a waffling wiffle-waffle!!1! And McCain was as constant as the North Star? He voted against his own immigration bill. Oy.
I want to write something about this sickening apotheosis of Reagan by the Right, especially those too young to know him, but all I can hear in the back of my head is the overture to “The Omen”.
You…you said…Reagan wasn’t…perfect?
*Grabs shotgun and cat; runs to the storm shelter*
reagan wasnt perfect but hes a damn sight better than anything weve got. now. pardon the lack of proper punctuation. im in a deer stand again. i just had to jump in on this one! :^)
LOL!! If you see red hair to the north, don’t shoot!
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I think the GOP has a new batch of promising hopefuls on the horizon. That said, I really-really-really want Sarah to run. I’m prepared to beg…
got my deer!!!! and i want bobby jindal to run.
How many points? About Jindal, you’ve mentioned his name before, once or 30 times… In my mind’s eye, you are dressed like Janis Joplin, singing a twisted version of Bobby McGee. Too bad “Jindal” doesn’t rhyme with much. Congrats on gunnin’ down Bambi’s mom/dad!
Nice shooting froo. Mmm… venison sausage…
Bobby Jindal would be great!!
My father would have wanted that deer’s heart…stuffed with parsley and prunes! Enjoy!
…with a side of fava beans?
it was a little spike buck. i wasnt even in the stand yet, we were just walking through the woods! we”re going back out in a bit :^) mmmmmm, backstrap!
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and i i coildnt get you shooting north, rho. we’re in marshall right now :^)
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ema, aside from jindal, is j.c. watts still in politics? he’d probably be a good counter to obama, and we couldnt get accused of being racist :^)
Good job! Thanks for the shooting direction tip, too.
) Just to be on the safe side, I’m going to wear my Libtard helmet until you signal all-clear!
Well Pres Reagan was alright, he did have the foresight to capitalize on the effort of his predecessors and push the S.U. into collapse, but he wasn’t all that.
Reagan was a disaster for the middle class. If you’re wealthy, then yeah, Reagan was a good president.
If you were lower income or left-leaning union, then he was friggin’ Antichrist.
One of the worst things Reagan did with the whole decrease regulations thing was to let lots of mentally handicapped people out on the streets when they absolutely cannot care for themselves. More freedom is not necessarily a great thing for everything, but most people want it.
I like where you’re going, but I think you missed a beat here. It wasn’t regulations that Reagan changed and put the handicapped on the streets. It was federal funding for state facilities for the mentally ill. Somehow, it was believed that that money was better spent buying bombs.
Yea, now those people are roaming the streets and are a big part of the homeless population. It’s dangerous for them and for the rest of us… That was the one thing I remember about the Reagan administration that I didn’t like at all. Not that we don’t need bombs.
Well said, ema.
Bombs? We really don’t need bombs nearly as much as we need the ability to make bombs when we need them. The problem with a bomb is that it costs wealth to create, but doesn’t give wealth in return. Conversely, spending on social programs like health and education pay a dividend in higher productivity and lifelong increased income and taxes from that income. Your strong economy and sensible foreign relations prevent most need for bombs, and on the rare occasion when they’re needed, you mobilize the nation, a la WWII, and kick the heinies off the bad guys. Afterwards, back to your regular spending programs to keep ahead of the rest of the world.
Well actually Raytheon here where I live employs quite a lot of people, a lot of them in my field. I wouldn’t want to work there but if funding was cut it would definitely affect the economy of my town… But maybe there is a point, we don’t need an infinite supply of them… Research is always a good investment IMHO.
I agree. Even research into bomb making.
Holy crap Ema you live in Tucson?
Yes. You’ve heard of the place?
Was just there last January, visiting family and family of a friend. It was really fun seeing all of the students doing ’street spam’ with signs for Ron Paul!
Heard of it. I spent 25 years of my life there.
Wow, I’ve lived here for most of my life, it sure has changed. I used to like it here but it’s growing to fast with not much control… I’m planning my escape north! Possibly the White Mountain area or somewhere near Flagstaff.
Hahahahahaha I’m planning to move back there as soon as I can.. This “Chicagoland” thing is just not doing it for me. Too damn cold. Not built for this.
Flag is nice. My parents and hubby are there, I miss having family around (that cares about me).
I lived in Chicago for a very short time too. Around the Wilmette area in the North Shore. I know what you mean about cold! I really like smaller towns myself, if Tucson could just stay small it would be perfect,… except for the heat but that is bearable. Hope you can make it back soon!
After living in sub-zero temps, the heat is a blessed respite. I was there at the end of September this year and it was still in the 90s, I was delighted. Ah.. memories.
No the heat never dissappoints! Good luck and let me know if you make it back!
PM, you ‘re discounting the times, at that time we needed to expand the military, including the making of bombs that you disagree with. The Soviet Union was at the end of a long-term military expansion, had we let them recover the world would be quite different. Just because we didn’t take the right course after the collapse of the Soviet Union wasn’t Regan’s Fault, it was ours. Having said that, Reagan wasn’t the GOD that conservatives wish he was and his economic policies set the stage for where we are today. No I am not saying it was all his fault, but he set in motion concepts that led to our current state of dismal economic affairs.
I’m saying we could have spent significantly less on the military and instead invested in economy enhancing infrastructure, education, and research, and the soviet union would have collapsed under its own weight, leaving us even more wealthy and powerful than we are now.
I do believe we need *some* bombs, but I think having enough nuclear devices to kill everyone in the world twenty some times over is probably a bit of overkill.
Our geographic position prevents us from being invaded by anything but a concerted attack by the entire world, we really don’t need to be able to fight two simultaneous wars, which is what the Department of Defense has determined is the proper strength of the military. The problem is, once you spend that much money on a military (currently more than the rest of the world combined), it becomes a real temptation to see that as the *first* way of dealing with problems.
What’s the saying? “If the only tool you have is a hammer, all your problems start to look like nails.”
Along with bombs is tech support, – they do not bring in money, but they are a necessity. If woar never happend bombs would not be a necessary evil. Unfortunatly there are a few things in this world that are needed that cost money but do not bring it in. I will agree with your point though. We do need to find a way to keep our noses out of things and if they attack us we go and light up their world. Talking does not always work.
Woar? WTF? A is on the extreme left, O is all but on the extreme right
I have no Idea – ment war. my fingers sometimes have a mind of their own, and I don’t do a very good job of spell checking. thanks for the catch on the mispell.
Woar! Hunh! (good god y’all) What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
Say it again…
With Jackie Chan’s accent, cause THAT’S freakin funny!
Chon Wang? That’s a horrible cowboy name!
Whoa take ‘er easy there, Pilgrim…
Hai-Ya!
I stepped into another quote from something, didn’t I? Sometimes I just *hate* me!
Shanghai Noon. One of my kid’s favorite live-action movies.
I like you, rho^2. And I do have a peculiar reference set, being a geek of many flavors. But if you compile them into a Netflix queue you’re in for a hell of a month’s entertainment! (With some of it, I think you’re very fortunate to still have the first experience of the thing ahead of you. ;^D)
*grabs notepad*
*skritch-skritch “Shanghai Noon”*
I’m catching on. I have a long list of catch-up movies to see. Evidently, spending most of my time outside has deteriorated my pop culture reference set to that which I can remember from the last century. I’m a total plant freak, but making botanical references rapidly pares down my social circles. That said, garden geeks can have fun, too! (link)
And clearly I need to get outside more, but living in the chilly north I don’t have quite the range of opportunities. Also being very sensitive to sunlight; I burn in about 10 minutes. :^(
I have fair skin, too. It’s just a matter of wearing good clothes and sun block. I’m not a big fan of cold weather. People who move here from up north claim that we only have three seasons (no winter), but I think it gets too cold here. I’ve been up north in the winter, and it was fun, but it was nice to get back home, too. The neatest weather event I’ve ever seen was a snow storm with lightning in it. That was in Wyoming.
A co-worker several jobs ago had a cousin with some land up in the Berkshire foothills, nearest neighbors a mile away, and during snowstorms he’d go up there to Planet Brett, have a bonfire and light off illegal fireworks he’d bought in New Hampshire. Something about the synergy of snow falling on your face, the glow of the fire, the smell of gunpowder, and the taste of pepper vodka……
My friend and her husband have a patio boat, and every July 4th, a group of us go out on the boat to the middle of the lake, lay on our backs, and watch a big fireworks show that a rich guy does every year. The fireworks explode over the lake, the boat rocks like a cradle, the Mojitos pour, and the mosquitos are back at the shore.
I’m sorry, Mark. Would you mind repeating that? I was having dinner, complete with my favorite vegetable, ketchup.
LMAO! Ah, good old Ronnie.
You know actually, ketchup is full of lycopene, which is a pretty potent cancer fighter! It’s actually more accessible in ketchup than in a tomato. So remember to eat your ketchup kids! : )
Ketchup
Saturday, December 27, 2003
Listen
GK: …….after this message from the Ketchup Advisory Board.
TR: These are the good years for Barb and me. We had a nice quiet Christmas and watched all of our favorite Christmas movies on DVD, sitting in our PJs and eating popcorn and got dressed and went out for dinner at a restaurant and dinner, which used to take four hours and included weeping and yelling and slamming doors, took twenty minutes including dessert, and we came home and got right to work on the 5000-piece jigsaw puzzle that Barb gave me for Christmas last year, a Jackson Pollock jigsaw puzzle, which is almost finished, and now she’s given me an Ad Reinhardt one, which should be a big challenge —– and then suddenly she burst into tears. (SS SNIFFLING) Barb. What’s wrong?
SS: I always feel bad when Christmas is over, Jim. You know that.
TR: You miss the kids? You feel guilty about how we kicked them out of the house and told them not to come back until they’d straightened out and now it’s been six years? Is that it?
SS: No, it’s just that —– I love listening to the radio at Christmastime. It’s like suddenly we go back to the Fifties and we have pop music again.
TR: I don’t understand.
SS: You remember pop music—– Perro Como, Patti Page, the Lennon Sisters—–
TR: Sure.
SS: Radio got so ugly in the 70s. And the 80s and the 90s. Heavy metal. Hip-hop. All that anger. And talk radio. Oh my gosh. But Christmas comes along and for two magical days we’re back in the Eisenhower years when everybody sort of got along with everybody else. Because there are no heavy metal Christmas songs. So we get to hear Bing Crosby. Andy Williams. Burl Ives. It’s the 50s 24/7 for two days.
TR: When did you start saying “24/7,” Barb?
SS: I’m sorry. I meant, “Round the clock.” Anyway, I wish it could last longer. Til Epiphany. January 6th. The twelve days of Christmas. —- Remember the Roger Wagner Chorale recording of that? Remember when there were choirs on radio—– the Harry Simeone Chorale? The Norman Luboff Choir? Now you have groups called Chameleon Pustules and Naked Fusebox Mama. I miss the old days.
TR: Hey—- turn up the radio—– (GUITAR LOW, STARTS)
SS: What?
TR: Turn it up—— they’re playing our song.
SS: Oh it’s Bob—-
RD (SINGING, DYLAN): Chestnuts roasting on an open fire.
Jack Frost nipping at your nose.
Yuletide carols being sung by a choir
And folks dressed up Eskimos……
Everybody knows—–
TR: All we need to ease our transition back to non-Christmas is ketchup, Barb. You know that. Ketchup contains natural mellowing agents that help you get over the post-holiday blues. And its festive red color really brightens up almost any dish.
SS: No doubt about that. (THEME)
RD: These are the good years, faces all a-glow,
Smoke from the chimney, the moon across the snow.
Ketchup is flowing on the escargot.
GK: Ketchup. For the good times.
RD: Ketchup…ketchup…
LMAO!! Where did you get this???
That sounds like something from a prarie home companion on npr. i love that show! the be bop rubarb pie and powdermilk bicuit commercials are alwys cute.
Love Prairie Home Companion. Well spotted Froo.
It makes all things edible, even my cooking. lol!
Ema, that’s neat–thanks for the tip! If one doesn’t eat so much ketchup (not that I was lying to make a joke), is lycopene available in other tomato products, like soups, juices, etc?
I believe tomato paste is full of it, so if you like spaghetti with marinara sauce that would also be a good source of lycopene.
Also, SALSA!
its the number one condiment in america.
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why is that?
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because people like to say salsa!
Quoting the Master, FTW!!
I just like to say the word smock… smock smock smock!
Thanks!
) I’m a huge marinara fan!
Salsa!
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Yeah, it does have that certain ring to it. Rolls off the tongue much better than pico de gallo.
Salsa has that lovely sensuous sibilant quality, but I kind of like the rhythm of pico de gallo…
I make my own pico de gallo, all straight from the garden–delish!
Pico de gallo >> salsa in a jar
Also, garlic improves immune function and olive oil and red wine both lower cholesterol.
Garlic also keeps vampires from putting fang marks in nearby foliage.
Garlic also keeps
vampiresRahm Emanuel from putting fang marks in nearby foliage..
Fixed.
Garlic does not keep Rho from putting fang marks in Slan!
I’ll hold you to that!
Okay, but it would help if you could act a little surprised.
Eager victim is eager.
Hang on, there was a president BETWEEN Reagan and Clinton, who came in riding high on an economic upswing, promised no new taxes, and left office with the economy in recession. One-termer, had some odd syntax quirks in his spoken word…waitaminit, waitaminit, his name’s on the tip of my tongue, don’t tell me….
Next time, little turnip-boy, I suggest you pull your head out of the ground and read a bit before you spout off.
(And yes, I am in a pissy mood today, thank you for noticing.)
Between Reagan and Clinton… hmmm.
Can I have another hint?
Nope, can’t do it, wouldn’t be prudent……
Oh man, I just had flashbacks to Dana Carvey doing Bush Senior! One of the best one’s was where he was wearing night vision goggles and was threatening Saddam.
Ever see the ep where Dana Carvey as Bush 41 co-starred with Will Ferrell as Bush 43? It was teh awsum!
No, link it up!
Almost as good as Norm McDonald as Bob Dole, and Darryl Hammond
as Gore fishing on a pier…
@Jane [link]
Thanks Rho, you’re a peach! (This is something my mother says to me, I have no idea what it means but I think it’s good)
Its means you’re sweet and good in cobbler. But you cant bite in
too hard otherwise you’ll chip a tooth…
If I’m a peach, then together we’re a peach of a pear!
)
…and Max is the cat’s pajamas and/or meow.
=^o.o^=
You know, the last time I tried to put a cat in pajamas, I almost
lost an eye. I think whoever coined that phrased has never tried
to pajama a cat.
I once shot a cat in your pajamas…
If Will Ferrel actually fired a rifle like that, he’d be dental reconstruction immediately thereafter.
@rhorho: So, what were you doing in Max’s pajamas? (besides
shooting at a cat)
Being in pajamas shooting a cat sounds like a porno.
@ema: Well, Max has to keep that hammer from rusting, now doesn’t he? ;o)
@froo: Yes, and thanks. It was a very bad…uh…kitty.
Did Bush I ever actually say, “It wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture,” or any variant? Also, “Nope, not gonna do it?”
I believe he actually did say “Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture.” I’m not sure about the other though..
“Well, he did manage to single-handedly erase all the incredible things Reagan did for our economy and nation. So, yeah, “Clintondidit!””
If memory serves, Reagan left us with a record (for that time) deficit at the end of his presidency, and Clinton left us with a budget SURPLUS at the end of his; so yes, in that sense Clinton did manage to single-handedly erase all the incredible things Reagan did for our ecomony and nation. Good point.
I think why that happened with Reagan (deficit) was he increased military spending to the point where the Russians could not keep up with us and it lead to the fall of communism which was a good thing for us and helped Clinton who was able to cut military because the threat was reduced and create a surplus (whew! run-on sentence alert)
The main problem with the “We spent the Russians into submission” meme is that it suggests communism was actually a working system that would have continued if we hadn’t beaten it. I believe it would have collapsed sooner rather than later anyway.
Secondly, they really hurt themselves trying to prosecute a war in (ahem) Afghanistan.
(I loved the movie Charlie Wilson’s War!)
Well, we at least hastened it’s demise or at least solidified it, which chartered in a sort of golden age for us with Clinton and we were then able to pay down our deficit. That’s the way I see it anyway.
Hmm, a Golden Age financed by the “peace dividend”; the money we saved by not having to spend as if we were in a war anymore?
Well we’re living with the results of the peace dividend. That misnomer, along with the current war against al-Quaeda sidlined by Mr. Bush’s War has led to an overextended military because he didn’t have the political courage to expand the military to handle both requirements. Also, Pres Reagan’s expansion of government also contributed to his deficits.
Cold War: Epic Straw Man Fallacy illustration
Mark, “Timber Charlie” Wilson is from Froo’s and my family’s neck of the woods. Small world, eh?
Texas is known for nothing if not colorful political figures!
Yeah, Good ol’ Ma Ferguson set the trend!
*Beams with pride*
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But we Texans are still embarrased by LBJ ( and our current governor)
Seriously, I didn’t realize Texans were embarrassed by LBJ.
Maybe it was the Royal We.
LBJ was a mean ol’ arse, but Texas is a big place. As you can see, his reviews are mixed.
“If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it ought to be good enough for the children of Texas.”[
LMAO!
“When things haven’t gone well for you, call in a secretary or a staff man and chew him out. You will sleep better and they will appreciate the attention.”
Didn’t LBJ meet with people he didn’t like while sitting on the Oval Office toilet? You gotta love a man who lets you know EXACTLY what he thinks of you
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I think so, too, but there are lots of people who didn’t appreciate his famous diplomatic stylings.
Didnt Reagan also remove the cap on interest credit companies could apply?
Maybe Im a bit foggy after my college years… but I think before Reagan came
along the interest rates credit companies charge now were… criminal acutally
It’s not the AMERICAN PEOPLE, it’s the people who stand to get richer by screwing over the poor in this country. There’s such an emphasis in this country on having that nice little cottage with the white picket fence. You know, the “American dream”, the one that makes a lot of us feel like we’ve somehow not achieved all that we can without living outside of our means.
The rich came along and started offering these subprime loans to those who can’t afford to buy a nice home. People bought into that because it was wrapped real nice and pretty, getting an insanely cheap mortgage so there was no worry about being able to afford it. It had nothing to do with willingly living outside of their means. You get a subprime loan when the market’s great, and you’re paying $300 a month for a few years and you’re not worried. Suddenly something goes wrong, and that $300 shoots up to $3000, and that goes on for several months and NO you don’t have the money to pay back the loan because the increase has completely depleted you of all your savings. Then you start doing things out of desperation, like opening up credit card accounts, just to make ends meet. Now the bank wants to take back your home because you’re at your end, leaving you with no home, horrible credit, and no money. Times this situation by millions of Americans and we’re left with a butchered economy.
I’m not giving people who fell for the subprime loan BS a “get out of jail free” card, but there’s a level of understanding in this situation, especially when you consider stapling the phase “he could sale water to fish” to people in the loans business (as well as many other high dollar businesses).
You express this well.
It wasn’t exactly “the rich” that came along and offered the subprimes, they were encouraged by the government to make the loans, so they made the loans to people that couldn’t afford them anyway they could. Because of the availability of loans to just about anyone whether they could afford them or not, the price of houses went up unnaturally and created the housing bubble. Did the rich make money? Yes, but government programs that weren’t such a good idea in the first place are to blame.
I think it was definitely the plan by those who wanted to steal more of America’s wealth. By lowering interest rates and cheating to put people into loans they didn’t qualify for (who remembers which company leaked memos proving as much?) they artificially drove the value of real estate through the roof. They took their profits and left the rest of us holding the bag.
Not at all, this was a well intentioned plan of the government to put more people in their own homes. I don’t remember the name of the plan but that is also well documented, it had to do with Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac backing the loans. That artificial demand is what drove up home prices.
Click name for link.
It was Chase Manhattan, who distributed a memo telling how to cheat the company’s automated computer loan system. The story came out in The Oregonian, so I probably noticed it more than others may have.
If you can’t fix it or don’t think to fix it in 8 years, it’s yours.
Bush had 8 years, most of the time he could just yell “or the terrorists win” and the democrats would cave on pretty much anything, and he either didn’t see the need to fix it or wasn’t able to despite getting his way on pretty much everything.
Eventually, ya gotta take some responsibility.
Actually, it’s all Montezuma’s fault. If he’da whacked Cortez when he had the chance, our Mexican overlords would be cleaning up the mess.
Excellent point! Bush had the Democrat legislators by the short-and-curlys. Anyone opposed to his policies faced being singled out as unpatriotic, and certain to have trouble getting reelected. I also like your point about Bush squandering his popularity. He certainly didn’t make much of his “political capital!”
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LOL Montezuma! All this time I had been blaming Christopher Columbus for wandering this way in the first place!
Wouldn’t they be our Aztec overlords?
God I hope not, half the posters here would be sacrificed, if you catch my drift
I would totally be safe from that one ;o)
No what I am saying is lets spread the blame to everyone responsible not heap it upon just one of the many who caused this whole mess. Has bush been a almost complete fuck-up? Undoubtedly so but lets at least try to be reasonably fair when assigning blame, is that too much to ask?
Well I will say that if you notice, most of us regulars dont get our lols posted up here. Probably because they’re not inflammatory enough for the masses or wrongfully blaming the right people. Most of us, as you can see here, do shoot them using fact, logic, and common sense.
The prez looks like he is going to cry…
He wanted a bigger flag…
I think this picture’s on the early pages of the site, captioned:
“Stupid terrorists…Now I’ll never know what happened to the pet goat.”
Cute!
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I think this picture was taken at a memorial for 9/11 or for returning vets from Iraq. I don’t remember when, but this picture has been around for a while. I see it as Bush either 1- acting like he thinks he should, or 2- finally figuring out how badly he screwed the pooch.
And yes, Bush did it.
Still was not all Bush’s fault. What all of this boils down to is it is the peoples fault. We all fight and bicker over everything and we don’t try to work together to fix it. We can disagree, but we still need to find the correct solution to fix it.
I’m scared, PM. You’re a leetle too good at that! ;o)
Nesting fail.
ok, democrats, deal with THIS “legacy”!
lame duck, my aunt fanny
Yep. That was totally his goal, to ruin America’s economy.
Silly PKers, we all know Bush wouldn’t even be SMART ENOUGH to cause a recession (even if a president was CAPABLE of doing that single-handedly.)
Hm, Firefox is telling me that “handedly” is not a word. Then again, it’s also telling me that “Firefox” is not a word either.
Firefox fail.
*sigh* – yes, yes, it’s all Bush’s fault, and some goes to Clinton, and some goes to the other Bush and Reagan and yada yada yada all the way back to Woodrow Wilson.
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There really isn’t much point bitching back and forth about who did what when. The fact is, it’s history and it can’t be changed, unless someone has a wayback machine. So as it’s been said, it’s time to pull together, regardless of your political flavor, and make the U.S. great again!
But eddie, its all your fault!! …. For making me fall in love…. all over again..
LOL!!
Sorry libtards, no recession yet, not even by the amateur definition of two 1/4’s of negative growth.
Clintoon vs Bush years:
unemployment = tied at 5.2%
#employed = 13 million more during Bush years
income inequality (Gini index) = grew 29 times as much during Clintoon years
inflation = statistical tie (Clintoon lower by .02%)
I could go on, but the damage to computer screens and keyboards as libtards’ heads explode would be nasty. It would cause a terrible smell in their parents’ basement too.
I’m no big fan of Bush, but the facts don’t go along with what you heard on the Cartoon News Network or on MSDNC.
Clintoon? Libtard? MSDNC? I’m sure you think you’re really clever for regurgitating those tired old conservative phrases thought up by someone with half a brain. Bravo!
This is what happens when we let third graders on the internet. I think this child may have been left behind.
LMAO!!
Did EP’s mom let him out of the basement?
LOL!! As far as I know, he’s only let out for Play Therapy sessions.
Just as clever/tired/regurgitated as the ten-billionth BDS post.
What’s the matter, did a few of those pesky facts upset the little two-year-olds in in lib-land?
DNFTT
Isn’t that special? Can’t dispute the facts, call the commenter a troll.
I’m sorry, where did you present a fact?
Duh, anyone who uses the phrase “libtard” is a troll. Go be an hero somewhere else.
“an hero”
spelling fail
ck is from Scotland. You fail at fail.
You have no manners. Your parents should have their parenting license revoked. Please to remain silent until you learn to extend the courtesy and respect you would like to receive in return.
Manners? Perhaps you should read the definition of the word. I expect neither courtesy nor respect from those without a clue. Why don’t you remain silent until you get a clue?
Angry troll is angry. Please keep posting, you are providing the most laughs I’ve had all day.
Playing with trolls is fun, as long as you are up-to-date on your tetanus and rabies shots.
I enjoy styling their hair. Pink trolls are my favourite.
You know, if you poke them with a stick every now and then the entertainment value goes up exponentially.
*snork*
I dunno Eddie I think someone beat this guy with a stick, the “ignorant
angry stick” Then turned it sideways and shoved it up their…………
Nose.
Right! Which is like showing them the back of your hand. Either they flinch or bite..
“I expect neither courtesy nor respect from those without a clue.”
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I have the feeling this guy is going to get his wish, and then some.
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“Why don’t you remain silent until you get a clue?”
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Yes, why don’t we all shut up on our own site, and sit in awe-stricken, worshipful silence while this troll berates us?
Im getting a raging clue
A big, hot, thick, throbbing…clue
tee hee!
Hey, I found a picture of you on the internet!
LOL!
Awwww, cute!! A baby Republican.
Everything has a larval stage, it seems…
Adorable!
Oh no, I laughed so loud my neighbor banged on the wall!
Sorry, Mark–I was the one knocking. I thought you were watching Fox. Sorry!
hahahahahahah!
Thanks for the compliment; I wish I really were that cute.
Amateur attempt to distort and limit data presented as “facts” in a piss-poor shot at proving your point, which is obviously to sling insults at people you don’t know. — FAIL. Lame attempt to hide your loser personality status. — FAIL. Ability to see the handwriting on the wall. — FAIL. Run along and play now, the adults are talking.
This is funny, because it has finally been announced that we have been in a recession for the last twelve months.
He doesn’t look sad in that pic. He looks like he’s trying to contain inappropriate laughter.
I think it’s more of a “OH GOOD LORD WHAT HAVE I DONE!!!” face…
I think he should just resign and get it over with!
Sorry, that makes absolutely no sense. He’ll be gone in less then 2 months, why would he resign?
Right, that would be like the person that puts in their 2 week notice and doesn’t stick around to train the new hires. I’m just glad they are all cooperating with each other.
And Jaysus, if he did, we’d have Cheney for two months. Where’s the win in THAT???
Thanks for that mental image–not! I need mental floss now!
Shooting-everyone-in-the-face-with-a-shotgun win?
I still think my favorite lol on this site is the “Guns dont kill people – Dick Cheney
kills people” lol.
Bush supporters: SHUT the F up and SIT DOWN!
This is funny on more than one level and if you cannot or will not see that then you are just a douchebag.
Okay, this is not funny and supremely disrespectful. He was at a military funeral you idiots.
And we’re to know that by? I don’t see anywhere that indicates when or why the picture was taken.
Ok, this is just ignorant leftist propaganda! Bush didn’t cause the recession. The recession was caused by the failure of the housing market, which waas subsequently caused by congressional regulations on mortgage companies. Google the Community Reinvestment Act. Do your homework and stop spewing ignorant garbage that you hear off of MSNBC.
If you want a quick run down, check out this video. Its a little hokey but completely based on researchable fact: