Her only regret…
Her only regret was that she was taking questions instead of snapping turkey necks with her bare hands.
(Sarah Palin)
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How about we all just let her go back to being nobody?
Because the turkey you eat magically appears out of no where and are never slaughtered.
Have you noticed that you’re not making any sense, kid?
You don’t have to rant inanely just because Rush tells you to.
Did you pay attention at ALL? bunnyrut is a LIBRUL!!!! Opposite of Rush!!
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Still my homie because (she?) has good ideas :^)
I don’t even eat turkey. Or any kind of meat.
exactly! thats disgusting!
well explains whyyour so sickly and pale and no boys want to touch you, stick some throbbing hot meat in your mouth and you might be more populare
Now she is a celeb nobody, even Paris Hilton has more brains, and fashion sense than Palin.
But even Paris can’t match Palin’s clothes budget.
Although that figures, since Paris wears far fewer clothes at any given moment.
Thank God!
I didn’t know you were into stick figures…
That might not be a good thing… What if she rides in a cab? and then you ride in that cab?
THIS.
IS
SPARTA!
Oh, that was complete win!
I love random words.
That owned. xD
pwn
Madness!
turkeys are overrated no use for them if they are alive=\
pig
There’s no use for some people too.
Trebinka and his 27 other ids would be a prima facie case…
i agree! can’t stand this woman and if she just went away that’d be great.
Aw- You would be madly in love with her had she been a Democrat!
Really? Who is about as far left as she is right and equally crazy? I can think of one, and pretty much no one likes him. Need a hint? Nader.
Pelosi ?
Not hardly.
I don’t know, Pelosi’s pretty much out there..
Can’t quite agree, edster. Whatever you think of Pelosi, she’s nowhere near as squirrely as Nader.
Well, the actual comment was about a Democrat. Isn’t Nader an Indie?
?? I thought he was Green Party, but since I try to block him out insofar as possible, you’re probably right.
OK, in defense of Ralph Nader: I feel bad because my comment was a little snotty, so I’ll just try to be fair and give the man credit where it’s due. Ralph Nader may be something of a flake now, but I will point out that NONE of the big three automakers had a safety department up until the mid-60s, and they probably would not have had one now, if it hadn’t been for Ralph Nader making a stink about it. That is all.
Also in defense of Nader, the dude walks the talk.
It’s a perfect example of what I was trying to say back on the Ann Coulter thread. I don’t like the man, I don’t agree with him, but I RESPECT him.
I liked and respected him until he started believing his own press releases. Somewhere in there he lost his grip on practical reality, whereupon he lost his ability as well to tell when it’s time to sit the frak down.
Well said.
I agree with all three of you. He walks the talk, but lacks the good grace to leave the house before the host goes to bed. If Bill Maher and Michael Moore are begging you not to run (in 2004), at least consider why they may think you will eff things up. (link)
Nader is with the Green Party, and has called the Dems and GOP “Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.”
I agree with him. However, I see one party as leaderless, weak, and only out for themselves, and the other actually waging war on the middle class. Now that the Democrats have regained some power, I can go back to trying to encourage them to work for the betterment of the working class and bitching (as I did all through the nineties; boy, I wish I was still that naive!) that the Democrats are no damned different than the Republicans.
Pelosi is a weak, triangulating, big business liberal. I like you lots, Eddie, but seriously, I wish we had a left wing party so you conservatives would understand just what “left” means.
seriously. thats what America truly needs. people really willing to change stuff
But wouldn’t anything left if center be left? Rather confusing I know, but technically correct. I think there are other’s here though that are farther right than I am.
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Oh, and yeah, you’re ok in my books too, PM. I know we don’t see eye to eye, but I like ya just the same.
The problem, Ed, is that the Overton window has been pushed so damn far to the right in the US. “Left” has lost its meaning utterly in American politics. The Democrats, by and large, are center by any standard except the US.
When there’s a major party aggressively advocating for a single payor national health system the way the rest of the industrialized world has, then you can say we have a left wing in America. But contrary to the BS propaganda of the past silly season, the only politician in a mainstream party talking that way is Dennis Kucinich and he’s largely ignored.
Well, I watch politics closely and live in Canada, and I agree with you.
With regards to ideology and policy, your Democrats are almost as far right as
our Conservative party, except on certain points that make the
Democratic platform more palatable to voters who actually ARE left.
So whenever I hear a US Republican refer to a Democrat as “Left wing”
or with the derogatory small L “liberal” (which isn’t an insult anywhere
else in the world, btw) I have to laugh. You guys wouldn’t know Left if it came up and bit you on the nose!
I won’t disagree. However, you have to admit that you can’t really compare U.S. politicians to the rest of the world. In terms of how things are in the States, there pretty much has to be a left and right and that is defined by the platforms each side stands behind (in a two party system.) If we had viable multi-party system, then things would be a lot more interesting in terms of who is left and who is right. But until that day arrives, we gots what we gots.
Look, Ed, I’m trying not to be inflammatory here. But when the Miami Herald prints an article worrying aloud that the long-anticipated closure of Gitmo could be derailed by the need to appease centrists, the terms have utterly and irretrievably lost their meaning in this country.
(Name for link, as ever)
(In case that wasn’t clear: “Maybe we shouldn’t close Gitmo ASAP” is NOT a centrist position. It’s about five furlongs to the right of where centrist ends, by any rational analysis.)
No, I would never take you as inflammatory. I think your pretty much spot on. All I’m saying that people are trying to compare U.S. politics with the rest of the world when in fact you can’t really do that. Within the confines of the U.S. borders, left, right, and center have a whole different meaning.
Yes, in many ways I agree with you. I’d say that goes for any country, really. In Sweden’s political climate the center is rather left of what many other centers would be. Still, it does get a bit ridiculous when terms that are not relative start getting thrown around (like Obama being called socialist (sorry: socialest), Marxist, or anything to that effect). But yes, right, left and center are all relative terms, which is perfectly sensible and as it should be (as long as one remembers that they are just that).
no, left is different from liberal. democrats are liberals, socialists are left.
Dennis Kucinich?
This was my idea for the furthest left Dem on the national stage, but it got lost.
Love Kucinich. I’d gladly vote for him and wish for a battalion more just like him.
BTW, how’d a little elf like him marry a leggy supermodel looking chick? Must be a combination of humor and power, I guess!
Read: Donkey D*ck.
As always, we leggy supermodels go for the power. You may have seen the female poster’s comments about Vlad a few LOLs back. If so, picture the reactions of those same women to Vlad if he were a simple nice guy who drove a jeep and worked at the mall…
And looked like an elf…
Thanks for the explanation though! You too froo!
Oops, I totally misread your post Rho! I totally got that backwards. Still, well said.
Personally, I’m from the Orlando Bloom school of what Elves should look like…….Kucinich looks more like a hobbit to me :^)
LMAO Froo!
F*ck yeah sister! *sigh*
I don’t ever see anyone being in love with someone who couldn’t even name a country that was in North America, or said that the vice-president’s job was that they control the Senate. I don’t see why someone would want someone that is *that* ignorant in any position of power.
They didn’t, that’s why she’s not..
Oh, with exception to being Governor of Alaska. But that’s Alaska’s problem, not our’s.
Well, Alaska is, what…750,000? Whatever the population, it is smaller in population than Obama’s old Illinois STATE Senate district. Importantly, Alaska has a high percentage of remote areas. I didn’t catch it, but my friend saw a revealing report on TV. The reporter went out to a remote fishing village, and asked the people what they thought of Palin. (1) They didn’t recognize her name, (2) they didn’t know they had a female governor, and (3) they didn’t care one way or the other about her run for VP.
Pop – 683,478
Pop density – 1.03 people/sq mi
ok, so we’ve established that Obama dealt with more people while functioning as a community organizer than Sarah Palin has as a governor. Now, can you show me the improvements that Obama made? Can you give me one story where he created a job or made any changes that helped anyone in Chicago? The last time I checked the murder rate in Chicago is a little over twice what the national average. where is the progess?
We could, but why bother? He already won.
Oh, come on froo! How many wall of text posts about Obama’s accomplishments do you need? I saw at least three different versions in the weeks before November 4th. I’m sure Seth will be along again any minute. If not, I’ll look it up after I get home from work tonight.
I’m sorry, I was in a bad mood last night because I couldn’t sleep. There is no point in dredging up old news : )
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I will be believing Obama actually accomplished something worthwhile as a community organizer right about the same time that you believe that GWB is actually a decent person : )
I’m beginning to think he is human. Does that count?
A little. For that, I will give you that Obama did not, in fact, trip a guy to get to the front of the line to get cheesecake.
That’s right–He didn’t, because he’s a nice person.
*licks cheesecake crumbs off thumb*
It’s his *friends* who trip people *evil wink at rho*
Wanna co-conspire?
*offers froo a piece of Sugar Shack Maple Walnut Cheesecake*
*eyes cheesecake suspiciously* I’ll do it for New York-style Cherry Cheesecake.
I don’t believe Obama’d trip a man to get cheesecake, but I wouldn’t stand between him and a sweet potato pie!
I’d trip a lot of people for cheesecake. There’d also be excessive use of elbows. Luckily for the people around me I know very well how to bake a cheesecake so the need to inflict pain for one is never there.
(Sorry if my original post from this morning ever comes back.) Dunno, Jane. I just bought ingredients for cheesecake, and think your elbow idea suddenly holds new merit.
I’m prepared to admit there’s some good buried in there. It’s masked by his insecurities. His insecurities (about his intellect, and the tarnish one’s soul acquires when living for years as an abuser of drugs and alcohol) cause him to become a small-minded, ill-informed, bullying man. His lack of education, and lack of curiosity, leave him intolerant of anyone who tries to offer information or world views he finds uncomfortable. His weakness of character makes him easily manipulable by those truly evil forces who backed and operate his administration. He has no regard for the working class, and believes he is wealthy and powerful because he is morally superior to anyone less fortunate.
Ahem.
Having said all that, I’m sure he’s kind to puppies and children. I’m also sure he never intentionally thought, “I hope the consequences of my actions include the utter disruption of millions of lives, and the deaths of countless women and children.” He just lacked the ability to know it was wrong.
I guess I’ll believe in his humanity when I hear a sincere, heartfelt apology for any one of the many things I he owes the world an apology for.
(whew! rant mode OFF!)
Oh. I think he seems absolutely wonderful as a person and I’m sure he’d be a blast to have over for dinner. Really. he seems adorable as a private person, but BIG SPANKINGS to all those people who voted him to the presidency.
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(No, froofrou, I don’t feel the urge to punish you twice. Unless you want to? ;o) )
I completely agree with you on that first paragraph, at least for the last 3 years :^)
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And I only ask once, hehehe. Where you go with it from there is up to you ;^)
I loved Bush’s portrayal in “Harold and Kumar Escape Guantanimo”. I’m sure it’s not an accurate portrayal, but it still has some truth in it, I think.
For those who missed it (almost everyone) you may click my name. Hilarity ensues!
I’ve bookmarked it, but my computer has this NEW HILARIOUS IDEA that I am not allowed any sound when looking at youtube-flicks. So, it looks as if it’s fun, but I keep having the feeling that actually hearing the dialogue would help me appreciate it.
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As soon as I’ve whipped the ‘puter back into shape, I’ll check it out properly.
By the way, GWB is a decent, caring human…I’ve never doubted that, he is however a very bad leader totally unsuited for the position that he has held through fear and inuendo fro the past 8 years. Hi VP is the one who is truely evil and who would destroy this country to suit his myopic vision…he’s doing a decent job of it, but hasn’t succeeded, yet.
By the way, GWB is a decent, caring human…I’ve never doubted that, he is however a very bad leader totally unsuited for the position that he has held through fear and inuendo fro the past 8 years. Hi VP is the one who is truely evil and who would destroy this country to suit his myopic vision…he’s doing a decent job of it, but hasn’t succeeded, yet.
Alzheimers kicking in ?
Yeah, because unintended double posts never happened to anyone on this site, ever. Ass.
I don’t know BOB, having a hard time rembering your name? Perhaps it’s you multiple personalities. You must have done something really bad in you past life if you Kharma is such that all of your multiple personalities are equally mega-trollish.
…and, for those interested, one source has south side Chicago at 21205 people/mile^2.
…what they don’t tell you is that 21200 out of those people are either on heroin or selling heroin…
Seriously though, heroin is a HUGE problem here. Not that it’s not anywhere else, but I live in the thick of it and it’s pretty rough. 26 dealers got busted in my neighborhood this past year and they were all within 3 blocks of me. They got busted selling dope next to an elementary school. @@
Off topic I know.
I’m sorry to hear that it’s that bad, but, frankly, it doesn’t come as a shock, either. Politically speaking, it’s a lot harder to manage a group of (forgive me) high maintenance people, than it is to manage the type of person (broad generalization) usually attracted to a state like Alaska. Those people, especially those like the ones in the isolated fishing village I described earlier, have little to do with governance, services, etc. South side Chicagoans are more likely to seek/need drug treatment programs, police protection, and a host of other services related to their living conditions. Comparing the experience of the two by mere constituent numbers is insane.
I would be madly ashamed if she were a democrat. I don’t gladly suffer fools of any stripe.
Here here!
Hell, I’m madly ashamed she’s a Republican and opens the rest of us up to scorn!
Let’s just say that I wish there were a third party that was simply Conservative as opposed to Republican. Getting her lumped in with left of center, middle of the road, and barely right wing Republicans is kind of unfair to her. She’s being labeled as something she’s not. You’ve got the Green Party for your whacked out Libs, why can’t we have another party for the extreme right wingers?
Isn’t that the Constitution Party?
Yes and no. Have you ever seen the Constitution Party on a mainstream ballot? I haven’t, but I’ve seen the Green Party. And besides, I don’t think Palin is quite THAT far to the right.
I’ll have to get back with you on that, but I think they were on the ballot in AR. Not that we’re mainstream.
Ok, I checked, and the presidential candidate was on the ballot in AR.
You can see their platform if you click my name. I didn’t see anything there that Palin would have a problem with.
*pokes head out from under flame shield*
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I pretty much agree with everything on there with an exception about the IRS. The main disagreement I have is whether or not the Federal Government is allowed to legislate that stuff. But I’m kind of for most of that other stuff.
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*hides back under shield*
*pokes head back out*
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I tried to tell you guys I was a right wing nut job, and you wouldn’t believe me!
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*hides again*
*pokes head back out*
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I just don’t think the government should get involved in most of that.
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*hides again*
*throws rock at flame shield; gleams impishly*
Just as an FYI, many third party candidates, including Froo’s lust-puppy, Kinky Friedman, have complained that it is very difficult for a third party candidate to get onto the ballot in Texas. Evidently it takes a huge amount of petition signatures.
I loved Kinky, if for no other reason than the man was HONEST! And anyone who will put Willie as a cabinet member has my vote, hehe.
I voted for Kinky! I thought he would be a great representative of our state, which used to pride itself on its colorful, unique characters. The governor position is relatively powerless, anyway, right? I have loved reading his stuff in Texas Monthly for years. My favorite line of his came when he was asked how someone with no experience could be effective in office. He answered, “I’m a Jew. We hire good people.” Yep, I lubs me some Kinky!
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Yep, I lubs me some Kinky!
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:stocks up on silk scarves, vibrating toys, feathers and syrupy dessert toppings:
I love the whole “Jewish Cowboy” meme, myself. I like Kinky, but I don’t know if I would want to see him in office in my state.
Unless he wanted to be Mayor of Portland. We used to be known for very colorful mayors.
@ Slan: You must have been a boy scout. If so, do you still have the uniform???
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@ PM: The TX Constitution calls for a figurehead governor, pretty much. The Lieutenant Governor and RR Commish have TONS more actual power. As a tone-setter, Kinky was the best idea since Ann Richards.
I hated Ann, but that’s probably because at the time she was governor, I was young enough to believe everything my parents said : )
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Kinky would have been awesome! His first day in office he planned to give teachers a $6000 raise and wanted to do more. He seemed like the kind of “I-don’t-give-a-sh*t” cowboy who would actually bully people (in a nice way, hehe. No dead fish here ; ) ) and get some stuff done. Figurehead or not, hehe.
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Like I said, the fact that he seemed to be honest really got me. Anyone who can admit to being a rebel-rousing, heavy drinking, cigar-chomping womanizer has my vote, hehe. I would actually like Clinton a lot more had he simply said “Yeah, I f*cked her on the desk in the Oval Office. Next question” than I do because he wavered. Dammit, just talk honest to me!!!!
I completely agree with you on Kinky’s refreshing honesty. I wish he had gotten more exposure. I’m sorry you were too young for Ann. She was a corker!
For you and anyone else, here are some of my favorite Kinkyisms:
I don’t remember the first half of my life. All I say is a happy childhood is the worst possible preparation for life.
How can you look at the Texas legislature and still believe in intelligent design?
I even went so far as to become a Southern Baptist for a while, until I realized that they didn’t hold ‘em under long enough.
I just want Texas to be number one in something other than executions, toll roads and property taxes.
I support gay marriage. I believe they have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us.
May the God of your choice bless and keep you. I respect Him as long as He does not circumcise me anymore.
Musicians can run this state better than politicians. We won’t get a lot done in the mornings, but we’ll work late and be honest.
The first thing I’ll do if elected is demand a recount.
We’re first on executions. We’re 49th in funding public education. We’re in a race with Mississippi for the bottom, and we’re winning.
LOL! Sounds like a modern day Will Rogers to me. Those quotes are great!
“I would actually like Clinton a lot more had he simply said “Yeah, I f*cked her on the desk in the Oval Office. Next question” than I do because he wavered.”
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Me too, froo! It’s not like he had to run for reelection (at the time) and banging your willing intern isn’t against the law, as far as I know. I’ve always felt that he should have been like, “look, my marriage and who I sleep with is none of your business, come back when you actually have something to charge me with.”
I’m going to go way out on a GOP limb and say that aside from the Lewinsky thing, Clinton will probably be regarded as a pretty good President. He did make some mistakes with Kosovo and Somalia (and a couple of other little nit-noid issues), but all in all he had a very strong domestic policy and his foreign policy wasn’t to bad either.
Coming from you Eds, those words mean a lot.
@Jane: I agree with you and froo that of course BC should have been honest in the first place.
@froo re: Clinton: Well said!
@eddie: I’m confused: you thought Clinton should have committed more troops in Somalia and none in Kosovo? I’m no expert in either, but I do feel pretty strongly that Mogadishu was the wrong war at the wrong time. I’m also pretty sure no American soldier lost his/her life fighting in Kosovo, and that’s all right by me!
Ahem… Rwanda.
Ah, yes. Clinton’s biggest failing.
In light of new evidence, I wonder how much of his reluctance to go into Rwanda had to do with not wanting to confront the Chinese? Or, am I conflating Rwanda and Darfur?
I can’t say I’m an expert on either Rwanda or Darfur. What I can say is that it bothers me when some people get on their sanctimonious high horse about Iraq and how we needed to remove Saddam because he was a dictator and the Iraqi people are better off when we did nothing in Rwanda and we continue to do nothing in Darfur. That’s not blame aimed at a specific person, obviously different presidents were in office for both. I’m just saying that if you are really looking for worthy causes and people to save there is a whole lot of the world we should be looking at.
I’m pretty sure the problem in the Darfur region is that:
1) The region has considerable oil reserves.
2) The Chinese have contracts for that oil with:
3) The Arab culture who are moving into the area, and who constitute the majority of the soldiers in the Janjaweed militia.
4) The Chinese are providing training and equipment for the Janjaweed.
So, any attempt to confront the Arab invaders is effectively a provocative act against China. The Chinese already done kicked Bush’s heinie once, and he’s been too afraid to confront them on anything since.
About electing Kinky–I’m from Minnesota, and we elected Jesse Ventura, a “colorful,” “unconventional” governor a few years back. It turned out to be agonizingly embarrassing. His only accomplishment was reducing the license fees for SUV owners, which he pushed as striking a blow for libertarian freedoms. He was honest, I guess, but honest isn’t enough after a while. Now we have a rightwing Republican governor but, speaking as a Democrat who ought to hate him, every time I hear the guy speak I’m so thankful he can produce a complete sentence that I don’t even mind his politics.
Texas has a figurehead governor, by constitutional design. Kinky Friedman is a gifted writer and musician, so no language troubles there. Kinky and Jesse both have a candid nature, but most similarities end there, imo. The point is moot, unless Kinky changes his mind about running next time. He only received about 10% of the vote. It’s an excellent showing for a relative unknown, especially considering that his republican opponent was incumbent. Regardless, Kinky said he wasn’t going to run again. The run for governor wasn’t a total loss, though: Kinky was able to use his air-time and newspaper space to discuss some of his favorite charitable causes, including a no-kill animal shelter.
Chuck Baldwin was on the ballot in WV. I think he may also have been on the ballot in VA because I recall seeing his signs along the road in Loudoun CO. I think. Hell, this was three weeks ago!!! or four???
Too much turkey…….
…and we both have Libertarians!
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You don’t gladly suffer fools? I haz a sad. *sniff*
Oh, don’t cry little one. You are never foolish in my eyes!
Rho thinking: Oh noes!! That throws me into a terrible perplexitude. If I’m not foolish in his eyes, then he’s a fool. I also don’t gladly suffer fools, but PM is my friend, only recently discovered to be a fool. If I gladly suffer him, then I’m a hypocrite…AND a fool. *brain freeze*
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Rho talking: Thank you PM! *hugs*
*hugs back* (decides as long as he’s getting hugs, he’ll treat Rho’s inner dialogue the way he treats all the perplexing things women do: ignores it)
(Pours warm water over frozen brain, hoping it’ll thaw enough to realize that a fool would be too foolish to recognize her inner foolishness)
*Enjoys warm water, adds shampoo and washes away silly Escher-drawing thoughts*
I don’t gladly suffer fools, but I DO gladly suffer goofballs! :hugs!:
*happee goofball dance*
Thank you, Slan! *hugs*
No, if she’d been a Dem, she would NOT have made it even as far as State Legislature, let alone a nominee for Veep. We Democrats have this funny appreciation for intellect, and we try to make sure our candidates reflect it, also. Just a small quirk we have.
Which explains Al Franken and Nancy Pelosi.
At least they both can write (and speak) in complete sentences, and express ideas clearly. Sheesh! She’s cunning, sure but Definitely Not Smart.
Your President Elect can’t get through a sentence without about fifteen ‘Uh’s’ in a 30 second period.
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Sarah Palin was PORTRAYED as an idiot. She isn’t. Not by a long shot. She just doesn’t fit into the mold of a mainstream candidate and probably won’t get elected because she is too far right wing for most people. And that’s ok. She has ideals, she just doesn’t have mainstream ideals.
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Sarah Palin showed herself to be an idiot; she didn’t need anyone else’s help to look stupid. Watch the Katie Couric interview, or read the transcript — it’s as clear as day.
And, Obama is far better at articulating ideas (and doing so in complete sentences) than Sarah Palin, by far. The “um” factor? That doesn’t hold water, when you compare what each person is (and has been) saying. So, he’s not entirely used to being in a national spotlight just yet? “Um” does not damage an expression (even though it’s not a good use of someone’s speech time).
Really. There’s a reason that she and McCain lost. I was embarassed for him when he picked her. He could have done far better than her, and it was a cheap shot.
You apparently never listened to her campaigning.
The “I don’t want the vote of anyone who lives in a city larger than 10,000 people” strategy is, in fact, a guaranteed loser. Apparently she is unaware that you win elections by having a lot of people vote for you.
Sarah Palin is, in fact, a moron. Not much of an American either.
Pretending to believe otherwise just makes you look bad.
The ‘um’ thing is what a colleague of mine calls a ‘verbal screensaver’. I recorded one of my lectures once, and was mortified to hear my own ‘um’ frequency. Which was a really good motivation tool for learning to tolerate periods of silence while I’m lecturing.
But having to speak at a press conference might work to disadvantage here…if you stop speaking, the reporters will start shouting questions!
And just as a trivia fact, I can add that someone researched it here, in Sweden (though it’s closer to “urrr” than “umm” here) and statistics were quite clear that those who “urrrs” the most are well-educated, middle-aged white men. Too afraid to give anyone the chance to butt in when they’re talking. ;oP
LOL, and it’s an EXTREMELY bad habit to be in, especially when you’re a public speaker! I had to relearn a bunch of speaking points like that when I started getting on stages.
It is! I’ve also had (a joyful?) reason to learn that the sort of story that might thrill your pals down at the pub don’t really work on grumpy people at 10 am MOnday morning. “urrrs” just seem to make them froth even more!!!
Yeah, but what does your wildly infamous career as an exotic dancer have to do with saying “uhm?”
You get fewer tips if they think you’re too stupid to speak during….er……stuff :^)
Hehehe.
That was my first (and most likely last, as it’s 4 am and I really should go to sleep) real laugh today. Thanks. 
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Silly PK ate post, I know not if it will reappear, so I will repeat it, risking to be repetitive!
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Reading this post gave me my first (and probably last, as it’s 4 am and I should go sleep) real laugh today. Thanks!
And Al Gore and Barney Frank and Harry Reid and Joe Biden…….and John Kerry and Ted Kennedy and John Edwards……….
Ditto on each. Each person mentioned is usually grammatically correct, and is definitely able to clearly express ideas.
They may not be the *best* examples, but how many of those you mentioned (aside from Gore, of course) are or have been nominated to be the Second in Command of the world’s most powerful nation? A position that important needs some brains in it, don’t you think? Sarah Palin was an incredibly poor choice for that post.
John Kerry was nominated to be Leader of the Free World, John Edwards, Veep, Joe Biden is the current Veep, and I believe that Ted Kennedy was nominated at one point.
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All are stellar examples of what a leader should be. We have two drunk womanizers, two elitist pigs, a nut running around trying to make people do what HE SAYS and NOTHING ELSE, a dipstick who is almost singlehandedly responsible for the credit crisis, and none of them can form a coherent sentence when confronted with the question “What do you actually stand for?” They are all most along the lines of “If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?”
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I think the answer for most of them would be “Let me talk with my advisors and get back with you on that.”
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Sarah Palin is anything but an idiot. She just has different views on how the world should work.
Two points. First: “a dipstick who is almost singlehandedly responsible for the credit crisis” Seriously? Alan Greenspan had nothing to do with a failed economic model? Was he the fall guy?
Second: Sarah Palin is an idiot. She answered the question about Supreme Court cases in almost exactly that spirit, saying something very similar to “I’ll get back with you on that.” Heck, it took her three days to answer the question about what magazines and newspapers she read, and she still came up short on specific content.
In fairness, I’m not going to rattle on, because you picked a terrible person to defend on the “smart but misunderstood” front.
Also, she didn’t know that Africa is a continent. I think they teach you that in elementary school. Is she smarter than a 5th grader?
Nah, I believe that was a rumor, but she isn’t really bright enough to hold national office, she is dishonest enough though so Alaska might get another senator for life (almost).
My bad. JK and JE were nominated, and yes, Joe Biden is VP elect. But they all know how to speak to issues, and not just spit out sound bites (although I do agree that they spin sound bites at times).
I did not bringing character into the discussion, but evidently you feel that it has some bearing on how a person expresses themselves. HOW???
(I don’t deny that character is an important issue, I just did not bring it up here, and I fail to see how a person’s moral/ethical character has any bearing on how they verbally convey their understanging of an issue.)
Bottom line: Sarah Palin is a cunning, physical image-conscious idiot. But she is an idiot, nonetheless. She should have stuck to her prior aspiration of TV news anchor, and kept to the teleprompter, which probably would not have revealed the extent of her idiocy. Too bad for her that she had to open her mouth.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Palin is an idiot. I think she is cunning, and I think she has more-or-less average intelligence. However, I don’t think she has been using her more-or-less average intelligence to keep herself informed the way a holder of public office should. Nor do I think she has the intellect needed to serve as VP, second in line to the president. Especially not given all of the challenges which we currently face.
“And Al Gore and Barney Frank and Harry Reid and Joe Biden…….and John Kerry and Ted Kennedy and John Edwards……….”
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ALL significantly more intelligent than flippin’ Sarah Palin: No Contest!
More devious, yes. More slimy, yes. But Ted Kennedy? Really???????
Yes, really: Ted Kennedy is more intelligent than Sarah Palin, No Contest! His academic career was stellar, and his work on legislation and other achievements would exhaust me to type.
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Character and intelligence are separate issues, entirely. “Slimey” and “devious” go to character, which do nothing for the discussion of intelligence. Please don’t compare prematurely picked apples and oranges.
I like one, hate the other, but respect each for their intellect.
I think you give yourself (or your party rather) to much credit for intellect. There have been plenty of Dem’s who have shown themselves to be two bricks shy of a full load. While I didn’t agree with McCain’s choice in Palin, I wouldn’t be so quick to jump on the high horse of intelligence.
There are idiots in both parties. The only difference is who gets more spotlight and when do they get it. Right now we’re jumping on the GOP because Bush screwed things up and Palin.. doesn’t know Africa is a continent! Still flabbergasted on that.
But that’s not to say that a democrat never screwed anything up.. There’s just different levels of “screwing up”.
I’m reminded of a quote “A million years of evolution and we get Danny Quayle”.
Just don’t look at Arizona governors if you want to see shining examples of Republican leadership.
Don’t look at New Mexico for Democratic one’s either, including Bill Richardson.
Bill’s a pretty conservative Dem, which I don’t like, but I recognize it’s probably inevitable in any politician running in a predominately rural state.
Trust me when I say there have been some real ‘winners’ in New MExico!
My original comment re: intelligence was meant with more than a bit of sarcasm (perhaps you missed it?).
We Dems do not, by any score, corner the market on intelligence. But…. look at who the Republicans put in the White House for the past 8 years; is he the mark of an intelligent party? Better still, is he the BEST you could get?? Please. Eisenhower and Lincoln are far better icons of the GOP; surely there is some conservative within the party who is less of an imbecile. Sarah Palin was just another step in that Wrong Direction.
As much as it pains me to say so, I did vote for Bush both times. Yes, the man is an idiot (which I have admitted to on numerous occasions), but in truth, he’s no worse then some of the Democratic presidents that have been in office.
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And yes, Palin was a major mistake on McCain’s part. Which is why I have said in previous posts, it made me wonder if he really wanted to win. I can’t imagine that someone who sincerely wants to be president would have chosen Palin when there were so many other viable choices.
Interesting point!
Also, maybe he really thought Hillary would be his competition, and so he would have countered that with the current Governor of Louisiana as his VP choice?
“As much as it pains me to say so, I did vote for Bush both times. ”
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OMG.
You’re one of the millions I have on my list of “people to give a proper spanking” then.
Ahem *presents heinie for spanking*
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I actually didn’t feel bad about voting for him until about 3 years ago. :^)
Oooh… Well, this is going to smart then. ;o)
Don’t forget to put some elbow in it! ;o)
“into” it, rather. (Oops!!)
*phew!*
I see my job has been taken… Stupid recession.
“I can’t imagine that someone who sincerely wants to be president would have chosen Palin when there were so many other viable choices.”
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I actually wondered about that, too. That choice just caused a lot of WTFness around the world.
I’m just going to end by saying that while I think Sarah Palin was a poor choice for VEEP because of her political views and various and sundry other reasons, I still don’t think she’s the mouth-breathing drooler everyone is making her out to be. I think people are projecting what they want to see in her, and she’s making the job of that easy by trying to spout the party line and not giving gut reactions.
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I liked her. I don’t think she’s qualified to lead the country (I don’t think Obama is qialified to lead the country, but that point is moot now), but I do like her. However, she is even further to the Right than even lil’ ol’ me, so that’s kind of a hard pill for anyone to swallow : )
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And I’m sorry for missing the original intent of your post earlier. Like I said before, I’m in a bad mood because I didn’t sleep much last night, and party-line Palin bashers just make me bristle : )
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As far as less of an imbecile, I’d love to see Bobby Jindal run for higher office.
I agree froo, I don’t think Palin is a raving lunatic either. On the other hand, she wasn’t ‘handled’ very well and now those same handlers are bagging on her to get themselves off the hook.
Yet another reason I am pissed at the Republican party right now.
She made some critical errors towards the end of the campaign, when her own people accused her of “going rogue.” She may have been mishandled, but how does that excuse her interview with Katie Couric? If you remember, it was immediately after that infamous flub-fest that she was squelched, and re-educated into a talking-point vending machine: B-7–Ya betcha! … H-4–Reigning in spending … D-5–John and I are mavericks. If you read the transcript from the VP debate, you can see the work of her programmers. Much of her speech was a series of loosely-woven soundbites that didn’t make sense the way she put them together. I could hear the work behind her statement when confronted about not answering a question. The way I look at things, those involved in planning the campaign decided that she should be squelched and reprogrammed to follow a set script *for a reason.*
You’re making my point for me :^) Sarah Palin is FAR more Right Wing than any other candidate we’ve had in a while. Her gut answers would scare people off, so she was told to SHUT THE HELL UP AND TOE THE PARTY LINE. She couldn’t go off sounding different than McCain, so she had to be coached on her answers. Have you ever been coached? I have, and it’s horrible! You have to struggle to remember things that are sometimes foreign to your ingrained way of thinking, and it comes off as stilted. It’s like trying to spout quantum physics when you have no clue how it actually works.
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Were she to have been left alone to give her ACTUAL opinion on things, she would have come off as EXTREMELY right wing, but at least it would have been her talking, not her handlers.
I’m making the point that she was directed due to inability, and your point is that she was directed due to political sway mismatch. My points go to my argument that her spewage didn’t make sense. An intelligent person can make sense while toning down arguments. People close to Sarah have described her as a politically savvy, though “not intellectually curious” person. Those were the people on *her* side, okay? I have debated in college, taking both affirmative and negative sides on the same issue. I was coached then, also in athletics, and through various career workshops, so I understand your point about being awkward when learning a new skill. However, I hold to my original statement that defending Sarah Palin’s intellect is a decidedly bad draw: I don’t envy you your choice.
What can I say? I’m a vicious defender of perceived unfairness toward the underdog :^)
I’m just glad that an intellectual “underdog” is not continuing (or helping to continue) the Bush policies with a “ya betcha” instead of an “um.”
Notice how you don’t hear much concern expressed about John McCain’s IQ? Wouldn’t it figure that people throwing baseless accusations around would do so evenly, or more to the front-runner’s side?
Not if you can undermine from the bottom. Sometimes the sneaky plot works best.
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Stop getting out the torches, of course it’s a conspiracy-minded post! Leave me alone! I’m simply playing devil’s advocate tonight because it amuses me :^)
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Also, it keeps me on my argumentative toes.
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I never heard much about John McCain’s IQ, but I did hear about his school grades. Now, why do we not hear about anyone else’s? Why haven’t we heard about Biden’s scores, fr’instance? Why haven’t Biden’s foots in mouths been plastered all over the place like the ‘Africa is a country’ thing from Palin? Hmmmm>???? After all, he IS the VEEP, not just a candidate anymore, and his gaffes FAR outnumber Palins.
We occasionally heard about McCain’s class rank at Annapolis, but that was clearly because he was a discipline case, not because he couldn’t pass his classes.
We didn’t hear much about the four planes he trashed by his own screwups before he flew in combat, however.
…and we didn’t hear much about McCain’s role in the Keating Five scandal, which a lesser candidate would have brought up to demonstrate judgment, at the least.
I was a little surprised about that actually, especially when McCain tried so hard to distract from the market meltdown using Bill Ayers. Past associations that are actually RELEVANT to the current issues maybe? Past associations with a market/government crisis whose lessons were so very clearly not learned going into the current clusterfsck?
DIRECT HIT!! That’s why I have opined that, at some point, McCain and Obama pow-wowed, and traded evenly: Jeremiah Wright for Keating 5. Otherwise, there is no explanation, other than McCain feared backfire or counterattack, including Keating 5. That doesn’t make much sense to me, though. Towards the end, McCain was throwing everything up in the air, hoping something would stick. It’s a ponder for me, truly.
When McCain tuned in to the Ayers Channel 24/7, Obama rolled out a web site explaining the Keating scandal top to bottom and detailing McCain’s role in it. He just laid it out there with very little comment. I don’t think he mentioned the website even once himself – he just let the news outlets notice it was there. Nice, classy and subtle strategy there, but it got drowned in the rapid news cycle and never quite went viral the way I’m sure his campaign was hoping it would.
One of the networks (CNN, maybe) aired back-to-back hour-long biographies of Obama and McCain. The Keating Five business was treated rather lightly imo, but that was the only thing I saw on MSMedia. At some point (mid-October), I heard/read that Obama’s campaign had produced a presentation about K5, but didn’t realize it was online. (Of course, had I known it would have been a popcorn event!) It makes sense that the Obama campaign would have wanted it treated “leak” style, to avoid repercussions. You’ve loosened me a little, but I still want to think that there was a trade-off deal made at some point between the two camps. Makes for better brain-TV, if that makes sense.
I feel that the Obama camp had done the numbers, realized that they had the edge, and figured that to join in the mudslinging at McCain could only hurt them.
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By taking the high road and leaving the low road to the desperation of the McCain campaign, their perceived integrity solidified their hold on the electorate.
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Up until the selection of Palin I had always respected McCain, but that and his subsequent behavior during the campaign changed all that irrevocably.
I like the way you think, Raelalt. Your last sentence reminds me of a joke. I hope you like it:
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While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President. The old rancher said, “Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.”
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Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was. The old rancher said, “When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a post turtle.”
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. “You know, she didn’t get up there by herself, she doesn’t belong up there, she doesn’t know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with.”
Now I miss talking to old folks in the South again… Dammit.
XD that’s special, that’s very special. I need to remember that term
She is not smart enough to be a Democrat!!! She ran on a ticket of getting the working class, “you betcha” and wink , wink and then gets upset because she feels their is a class difference between her an a Kennedy. Well, duh!!
that was perfect
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Um… hate to point this out.. But that was a comment.
How do you think your turkeys get to your dinner table?
Lots of ToFu died to make my t-day turkey
Tofurky FTW
You do know that to get the tofu to taste like turkey (or any other meat), it has to soak in the juice of that meat…right?
I thought it was soaked in the blood of children. Hmmmm, my bad.
Tofurky is not soaked in turkey juice.
I thought an ‘e’ was stuck in there, my mistake.
It’s amazing the difference one letter makes.
Tofurkey is soaked in turkey/chicken broth. Tofurky is a mix of Wheat gluten, Tofu, and seitan, and tastes absolutely nothing like turkey whatsoever. It’s only selling point is that it has a texture vaguely similar to that of meat.
The manufacturer of Tofurkey (please note the “e”) is Turtle Island Foods. From their website, here is the list of ingredients from their turkey roast. Please note the complete absence of turkey or chicken broth. They are also a certified vegan company:
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Roast Ingredients: water, vital wheat gluten, organic tofu (water, organic soybeans, magnesium chloride, calcium chloride), white beans, garbanzo beans, non genetically engineered corn starch, natural vegetarian flavor, expeller pressed non genetically engineered canola oil, shoyu soy sauce (water, non genetically engineered soy beans, wheat, salt, culture), spices, lemon juice, calcium lactate from beets.
Stuffing Ingredients: Organic brown rice, whole wheat bread cubes (whole wheat, filtered water, unbleached wheat flour, organic evaporated cane juice, organic palm oil, sea salt, yeast, natural enzymes, ascorbic acid), onion, celery, expeller pressed non-genetically engineered canola oil, organic wild rice, natural vegetarian seasoning, granulated garlic, herbs and spices. Contains: Wheat
Thank you for continuing to rock, PM!
Well, Wikipedia lied to me again (or I misinterpreted it) when it said “flavored with a broth”.
I still hold that for tofu to taste like whatever it is, you MUST soak it in the liquid form of whatever it is. And even then, it’s a disgrace to the original food to call it a substitute.
“I still hold that for tofu to taste like whatever it is, you MUST soak it in the liquid form of whatever it is. And even then, it’s a disgrace to the original food to call it a substitute.”
Agreed on both counts.
Take Garden Burgers: if you try to convince me that I should eat them instead of burgers, I’m gonna laugh in your face. If, however, you offer them as one of many good choices available for sandwiches, I like them plenty.
Preferably on a toasted multi-grain roll, with fresh garden sprouts, onion, tomato, pickle, and a couple slices of bacon.
bacon does make everything better
Mmmmmm, bacon. Kind of defeats the point of the garden burger being a vegetarian option, but OTOH a friend who’s been vegetarian for decades freely admits that bacon is the one thing she misses.
Mmmmmmmmmmm, bacon.
There is also soy bacon, works quite well as a substitute.
And turkey bacon, for those who don’t eat red (or “the other white”) meat…
That said, I can cook a rasher like nobody’s business!
Turkey bacon = perfectly acceptable substitute although not quite as aesome as actual bacon, but soy bacon is, well, every soy bacon I’ve tried has been gross. I used to buy it for my daughter back when she was vegetarian and everyone else in the house referred to it as “Beggin’ Strips” because it looked and smelled similarly to the imitation-bacon dog treats.
Sean, the problem isn’t the turkey slaughtering. You’re very right about that. The problem is it shows a fatal lack of media sense on Palin’s part. Showing live animals being slaughtered is pretty much forbidden on any broadcast in the USA. I’m sure it *could* be gotten away with if the context was right, but this isn’t that context.
what context? they aren’t showing the animal being ripped open, it’s being put in a funnel. you only see it’s back end. this just shows that the media will make someone look bad for ANYTHING they do. and people will listen to the media and never make a decision for themselves.
How about watching the blood pouring out? The thrashing of the body, and the removal of the feet? Maybe in a documentary about slaughtering animals, but certainly not in a press conference about pardoning a turkey on thanksgiving!
I’ve got to agree here. I’m not bothered so much that turkey’s are killed. I’ve raised meat animals, they lived a good life (ate up my garden) and then fed me for ages. The thing is even if they didn’t show the actual slaughter, there was enough evidence to fill in the gaps and watching things die isn’t always easy. you can be okay with death and still not want to watch it, and a news program is not a place to have such things.
A bit like pardoning a guy on death row and then interviewing while a couple other guys get gassed in chambers behind you. It is the juxposition that makes it messed up.
Hey, what are you two doing in here? No one goes in this old thread anymore. Are you doing some naughty exploring? *shakes finger*
Just practicing some thread necromancy. What can I say? Black’s my favorite color… And these skulls set things off nicely.
If Sarah had not been made aware in advance of the activities likely to occur behind her, the incident would have been merely funny. It would also have been merely funny if the nation hadn’t been exposed to her various other shortcomings. Her failure to impress during the VP run and later at the GOP governors’ conference set this up as “the cherry on top.”
Er, they’re raised in a farm, slaughtered one by one, cleaned, frozen, shipped to a distribution center, and from there to my supermarket, where I buy one, take it home, cook it, take it out of the oven, and place it on the table.
Why do you ask?
I dunno about you guys, but I get my turkeys from Ceiling Cat.
Yeah, that works too, if you’re faithful, and keep the basement door shut tightly.
Uh, Paul…I’m not sure I understand. Perhaps you could come over and demonstrate that cooking business for me. I’m also really foggy on dishes, laundry and vacuuming… ;oP
You want some cooking done? Better call me! I hope you like spicy, Norhtwest/PanAsian food.
*calls Mark pronto* Mmmmmm, yummy! ; )
Wow–call that girl anything but late for dinner!
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is that what passes for “breaking news” these days? OMG she listened to some questions! And might have answered a few! Let’s tell the world! Idiots.
It’s breaking news in Alaska.
…but how about that astonishing revelation that turkeys are dying in thanksgiving times? Huh? That’s BREAKING NEWS, for sure…
What made it vaguely news-esque was that the birds were being stuffed into funnels and having their throats slit, thrashing their last right on camera, and she was blithely ignoring it, talking about what a ‘fun’ day she was having there.
Oblivious woman is oblivious. That’s about it.
Oh. I suppose I didn’t think too much of that. I mean animal sluaghter for fodd is animal slaughter for food. I get more upset about dogs being carried around in bags and things like that.
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What the heck did I mean with “animal sluaghter for fodd is animal slaughter for food”? Typoes aside it jsut makes no sense. I was intending to say:
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“Animal slaughter for food is just a fact of life (or death, if you will)”.
For me, it was easy to understand either way.
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“Typoes aside it jsut makes no sense.”
Indeed. Aside, aside!
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What made it breaking news was that she was at the slaughter house to PARDON a turkey. And she had just done a whole story on pardoning the turkey and was talking about how fun it was, while the slaughter was going on in the back ground. It did show a distinct lack of any kinid of sense at all. And just goes to reiterate what I’ve thought of her all along – she’s a freaking bimbo who needs to go back to Alaska and STAY there.
Wait, I thought the president was supposed to pardon the turkey… or are there numerous turkeys pardoned in each state?
No pardon for any turkey!
they’re to stupid to survive alone, so kill ‘em before they kill themselves!
Wild turkeys, not so stupid. But I’ve heard that the domestic turkeys are seriously lacking in brain power…
They are bred to be big, not to be smart.
You’re right. A wild turkey is cunning, but something in the process of domesticating turkeys rendered them helplessly stupid. I haven’t checked this information, but have heard that a domesticated turkey can drown looking up at the rain.
That’s true. I can go on for hours about how domestic poultry was bred for this and bred for that, but that’s kind of what I went to school for : )
Okay, I checked it out and Snopes says I’m full of beans. Domesticated turkeys can’t drown looking up at rain. Their eye juxtaposition would have them cock their heads to the side to see rain, anyway.
Snopes.com has pretty much taught me not to believe anything I ever heard from my mother’s side of the family…gahhh!
Snopes has never been around domestic poultry. They really are that stupid.
Evidently, they really are stupid enough, but just don’t happen to drown in the rain.
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Wait–Are we talking about turkeys or my mother’s side of the family…? ;o)
They may not be physically able to drown in the rain, but whoa nelly they’re stupid. And in some cases they’ve been overbred for outsized breast meat so drastically that they can’t stand properly because they’re overbalanced.
In that case, they should be provided Segways. Just because Bush can’t handle one (link) is no reason that domesticated turkeys couldn’t. ;o)
Didn’t Pamela Anderson lead a PETA protest of this?
LMAO!! I wondered why Pamela’s palms were always cut and bruised…
Don’t know about that, but I’m pretty sure she was part of the “I’d Rather Go Naked than Wear Fur” campaign.
But then, this is Pamela Anderson, so it might have been “I’d Rather Go Naked, Full Stop.” ;^)
No one got my Pamela Anderson joke? That she falls forward all the time because she’s been engineered with oversized breasts? I haz a hmph.
Oh is THAT what you were trying to say! I thought you were referring to Tommy Lee banging her from behind. Silly me, I went WAY dirtier than necessary.
I’ve always liked that about you, Jane.
I’m still liking the mental picture of Pamela Anderson protesting on behalf of the rights of turkeys when:
“whoa nelly they’re stupid. And in some cases they’ve been overbred for outsized breast meat”
And then she looks down, goes ‘Aw, crap’, takes her ball and goes home. :^)
Ahhhh–Now this is better!
*hugs Tessie and Froo*
I rather disliked the domestic ones we raised. we’d let them wander the backyard for because it’s good for them to run around and whatever, when we collected them again they’d run into bushes, and get stuck…everyday…the same bush. Honestly they were the dumbest things I have ever seen. Wild turkeys though, those are some clever beasts.
Joe Mustache looked rather perplexed at the whole thing, too.
*sighs*
OK, if nobody else is going to do it, then I suppose I’ll have to:
“Blah blah blah Thanksgiving blah fascist holiday blah Pilgrims were imperialists blah blah turkeys are murdered blah blah factory farming blah blah Judeo-Christian blah meat eating capitalist pigs blah patriarchy blah blah Native Americans we stole their country genocide blah.”
*smokes clove cigarette in front of parents*
lol
I am a wee bit confused as to why this is a response to my post, but… I like cloves. ;oP
It’s a ten-second summary of the kind of rant that many American college students subject their family to when they come home for Thanksgiving break. The tenuous connection to your post is because you said, “turkeys are dying”.
Oh, I see.
) I rather like the fact that turkeys were dying. They are more useful as supper than they are alive. ;oP
Well it is breaking news that she chose a turkey slaughtering machine as the background while answering questions about what she is doing for the holidays!!!
As I have understood from this thread. The picture doesn’t make it clear what those questions were about. I kinda assumed it was about meat industry or possibly the finance market, or other turkeys.
LMAO!!
OW! NO, no, no. Don’t laugh the ass off, I’m sure you will need it.
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Trust me, Honey–It will grow right back… ;o)
oh! The “breaking news” is real!
I thought “turkeys die as…” was the caption! LOL
To be fair, it was only “breaking news” because it was on Olberman’s show. Keith was off that night, but Schuster did a good job keeping the flavor of his show alive that night.
I agree that, if we can’t always have Keith, Schuster’s a good sub. I just hope somebody besides Adriana Huffington replaces Ms. Maddow next time. I love her, but don’t like to strain to understand, especially after a long day.
I love her voice, personally. Also, over the radio, I can pretend she’s much younger than she really is. She’s a hottie, for her age!
The problem I had with Ariana is that it was really obvious she was reading lines written by Rachel’s writers rather than her own. Forced, stilted delivery – you could always tell when she was going off script and speaking her own mind because her speech suddenly flowed much more naturally.
I agree. Her inflection improves vastly when she does her own composing.
no no no her only regret is having boneitis. Now someone freeze her and let the future deal with her.
Futurama reference FTW!!!
Oh if only she DID have boneitis…. knock her over and we would all be done with seeing her around! YAY!
She’s obviously already got a Brain Slug [tm], so wouldn’t bone-itis be a bit much?
Tessie, what do you have against slugs? Saying that Sarah has a Brain Slug [tm] is fomenting slug abuse, and I won’t have it!!
In answer to your question, what I have against slugs is that they leave Snail Snot [tm] all over my yard, which is gross. However, I stop short of actually abusing them, other than going, “Ewwwww!”
The specific reference, which I’m not positive you caught, was to an episode of “Futurama”, where the Brain Slugs attached themselves to everyone’s head and colonized their brains, turning them into drooling idiots. I thought the metaphor was apropos.
Wow–I’m going to have to buy boxed sets of that show to get caught up! There are a lot of Futurama references on here, and every one I’ve checked is frickin’ hilarious! Thanks for catching me up!
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One time, after dark, I realized that I hadn’t shut off my water hose. Barefoot, as I reached for the spigot, *squish* I realized that I had stepped on a slug. It couldn’t have been a worse juxtaposition, as little bits of slug oozed between each toe. Needless to say, I took a Silkwood shower soon after!
“I had stepped on a slug. It couldn’t have been a worse juxtaposition, as little bits of slug oozed between each toe.”
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*skeeves*
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Ew ew ew ew ew! That’s even worse than when you walk into the invisible spider web on the way out the front door, and then have to do the Crazy Dance to get it off.
Eeeeuw.
I like to put out dishes of beer, for slug drowning sessions. I figure they die happy, and I dump the remains out as plant fertilizer.
But if you really want to skeeve me out, bring up iris borer grubs. *queeze*
I’ve tried everything–all of the other home remedies and all of the expensive commercial baits. Beer works the best.
I’ve never heard of Iris borer grubs, and I have tons of Irises around, from Louisiana Swamp to German to Japanese to Cemetary and lots of hybrids. I take it I’m lucky not to have seen any of these? ;o)
I’ve camped in the Oregon coastal range all my life. This is a temperate rain forest, with insane amounts of wetness annually, and never more than a few weeks pass without some rain. Out here, we have the Banana Slugs, which are huge.
Long story short, I used to run barefoot on the trails through our forests.
SQUISH!
Now, not so much barefoot.
Mmm, that slimey feeling… I always worry more about frogs though. So crunchy…
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(shameless self-promotion: )
Sounds like a case of *click my name*
Eww!
(I five out of fived your lol)
I go out of my way to attract frogs to my pond area, putting things around that they may like for shelters, etc. I also rarely spray for bugs, because I don’t want frogs, birds, lizards, etc. getting sick.
I gave your lol a five, too. (I have both St. Augustinegrass and a tuxedo cat, so that photo looks like home to me!) While we’re doing shameless self-promotion, click my name for one of my better ones (semi-topical).
5/5!
Heehehe. Yes, that one’s good.
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OMG! I looked up the banana slug, and instantly had to know the range! Luckily, those guys like your area, and fine with me!! Srsly, a 10″ slug??? That sounds more like a garden snake, without being beneficial–ewww!
I live in sultry East Texas, which is nothing like the Texas in western movies. (Think Louisiana, with fewer swamps, and that’s pretty much how it is here.) We have slugs that top out around 4″, but I don’t know what they’re called. They look like bullfrog thighs, with similar 2-3 tone green patterning. Do you have this kind, too, or just the forest ones?
Yeah, they’re more common in the (slightly) less moist inland areas, like Portland. In the forest, I’d never know whether it was an immature banana slug, or a fully grown garden slug. I admit, my main interest in slugs is not stepping on them : )
LOL–You sound like a smartie! Ever since my little run-in, I’m thinking not-stepping-on-them is an excellent strategy!
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Dunno why, but critters fascinate me. (I would call myself a dork, but Froo would do her dorkfish thing.)
(gratuitous dorknozzle reference)
(*equally gratuitous fist shake*)
And here I was thinking I liked the Pacific Northwest and I wouldn’t mind going back there someday. Perhaps I’ll just stay here in Northern Indiana. Grossest thing we have are tomato worms, and as long as I don’t grow tomatoes I’m okay.
Oh, believe me, the slugs are slow moving and easy to avoid. I’m a big believer that the Pacific Northwest is the perfect blend of climate, nature and culture. Other than myself (I can be a little prickly) we definitely have the highest concentration of nice people you’ll ever find!
Yeah, I’m prejudiced, I admit.
You may also want to avoid all other Nightshades, as Tomato Horn Worms like the whole family of plants. I have about a dozen Brugmansias (Angel Trumpets), and the THWs are on them like white on rice if I don’t get to them first! To me, the grossest thing we have are the 2″ long American Roaches, nicknamed many things, including water bugs and palmetto bugs.
I spent a college semester with all the futurama episodes <3 I simply adore their sense of humor
You guys are pathetic. Let sleeping dogs lie. Besides, how the hell do you think you get those cheeseburgers half you fat asses order from McDonald’s? Think the cows lay them like eggs? Idiots!
Er, which “guys” are you referring to? Do you see anyone here who said anything at all to suggest that they’re unaware of how we get our meat?
Right wing talk radio: helping wackos defend against imaginary enemies since 1992.
Bitter much?
Yup. Bit him, too.
More Turkey with your whine?
You started out calling us pathetic, then started with the profanity when someone responded to your inflammatory rhetoric. You, sir, deserve no attention.
Right wing talk radio: helping wackos defend against imaginary enemies since 1992.
WIN!
Right Wing Radio in-a-nutshell WIN–SECONDED!
I’ll bet that hurts, doesn’t it?
Okay. Obviously, fornicating with idiots makes you really, really upset. I would suggest, for your health’s sake, that you stop doing that immediately. (Because I “care”.)
Given the horror stories about fast food meat, I’m sure a lot of whats in them is passed out of the cows anyway.
let me do the maths here
turkey = cheese burgers
cows = turkeys
thus cows lay cheese burger eggs
what are we making with the sleeping dogs again?
Cheeseburger eggs, yummmmmmy! Is that like bunneh’s laying Cadbury cream eggs at easter?
We could only hope! ;o)
what are we making with the sleeping dogs again?
babies, apparently.
Oh god McDonald’s is just about as tasty as GARBAGE. Seriously why would anyone eat that crap, there’s plenty of other fast food that actually tastes good and isn’t made of a bunch of leftover parts that have been grinded and mashed together.
And I think everyone that eats meat is well aware of where it comes from and how it gets there.
It’s truly disgusting. You walk in and the smell hits you like a…..
like a…..
a….
ach damnit.
A wall of malodorous fog, eerily reminiscent of rancid grease and fake pinesol.
Does that come close?
dinner?
*FAKE* Pine-Sol??? That DID it! I’m never going there again! Hmph!
I demand REAL Pine-Sol!
Me, too! I’m even prepared to throw shoes… but not my good ones.
I’ve got an old beat-down pair of mil-spec boots you can throw, but that may violate WMD non-proliferation conventions.
Depends. Pre- or post-odor eaters?
We can dip them in REAL Pine-Sol, THEN throw them. Two statements in one fling! Thinking about it, maybe you should throw them. I throw like a girl, and it wouldn’t be appropo to have such a woosie (sp) throw on such an otherwise powerful piece of footwear.
…or we could catapult a cow!
Waitwaitwait…are we demanding real Pine-Sol or real cow? I think we sort of lost track here.
You’re right. Thanks for pulling me back!
Okay, so cow’s out; Pine-Sol soaked, otherwise stinky boot’s in.
Can we make Molotov cocktails out of Pine-Sol bottles?
Oh, if only Pine-Sol were flammable!
I suppose if we doused the cow liberally in Pine-Sol, that would be all right. But, wow, flaming Pine-Sol?
That’s it! Cheap gin!
Uh…I didn’t *hic* know you were saving the *hic* gin.
Now, sit still, botha-ya!
That was all part of the plan, rho sweetie…get you all liquored up, then both of me charm you into a threesome. ;^9
Well, alright, but *hic* I want in the middle…
Exactly. I’ve got you right where you want me. :^9
z z z z z *hic* z z z z z
Awwwwww. :snuggles the sleepy rho:
purrz…purrz *hic* purrz…purrz
Mr. Farmer: “Hey there Old Henry, I need about 4 pounds of ground beef today.”
Old Henry reaches into the pouch on his side and pulls out a nicely packaged 4 pounds of ground beef just like you’d find in the grocery store.
Mr. Farmer: “Thanks Henry, see you tomorrow.”
Old Henry: “Not a problem, sir. Just let me know, I’ll be here grazing till you get back.”
That’s how it works…. right?
Exactly!!!
I’m starting to think that there’s an entire army of robots here.
What is it with you people and this imaginary “people don’t know where their meat comes from” nonsense? What makes you think this has anything to do with that? You’re what, the fourth or fifth person who has posted this kind of comment, despite the complete absence of any evidence that anyone here thinks that meat magically appears.
“how the hell do you think you get those cheeseburgers half you fat asses order from McDonald’s?”
[menacingly] You wouldn’t be implying that there’s something WRONG with a fat ass; now, would you?
LOL Tess! KaBooM is projecting, or putting his personal flaws or bad feelings onto others. Chances are, you wouldn’t want to get into a butt bumping contest with him/her. Sadly, KaBooM’s ability to cope with life is directly related to the quality of the grease in the french fry vat.
I’m personally quite content with, um, powerful muscles that enable me to sit for long periods of time.
That having been said, I don’t think I’ve actually eaten at McDonald’s for at least a decade. They’re not even good fast food, imo.
LOL–Powerful muscles! I agree with your assessment of McD’s. It’s never choice 1-10 with me, either.
Hey, your ass muscles drive your legs too! Very important, they are.
They drive other things too, but that’s for another LOL. ;^)
I have never received a complaint about my posterior, but, then again, it’s well known locally that I bite.
Ooh, promise?
Certainly! My bites don’t usually draw blood, unless the moon is full, of course.
;o)
Uh oh…if the moon is full, will your bite turn me into a WereRho?
:^[}
Tsk, tsk. That’s just what people say–
*checks moon phase calendar*
Don’t give that another thought…
Well.. Let’s think about the logistics of your fatass comment here.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2606654/mcdonalds-burgers says that 75 burgers (on average) are sold every second with an average weight 2.4oz.. So that is 6,480,000 burgers a day, or 2,365,200,000/year.
2365200000 * 2.4 = 5,676,480,000oz sold/year or 354,780,000lbs of “beef based product”.
According to http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/208697.html
Uncooked beef (in pounds):
Live weight, whole animal 1000
Hanging weight (after slaughter) 682
Total meat yield after processing 550
So you get an average of 550lbs of meat per cow.
So that’s 645054 cows per year. Just for McDonald’s.
Now I don’t claim that this is all perfectly accurate, also I am bad at math so the math may be wrong.
But when you think about it, there are A LOT of McDonald’s out there selling A LOT of burgers a day. Are there really enough cows for all of that? I doubt it. There are also those cows used for milk n stuff, so not all cows are turned into beef.
So, no Mr. Smarty Pants KaBooM, we DON’T know where all those cheeseburgers come from. Perhaps you would care to explain just WHERE they come from? Cause it sure as hell isn’t all from the cowburger eggs.
Oh and all the stuff everyone else said too.
“there are A LOT of McDonald’s out there selling A LOT of burgers a day. Are there really enough cows for all of that? I doubt it. There are also those cows used for milk n stuff, so not all cows are turned into beef.”
I remember reading, I think it might have been in Fast Food Nation but I’m not sure, that McD’s buys not only beef cows (steer?), but also milk cows that no longer give milk, because they’re cheaper and the meat is leaner. I’m not a fan of McD’s, but I thought that was a pretty clever strategy.
If I’m not mistaken, milk cow meat is not leaner than steer meat. I’m thinking that there are easily 1,000,000 cows around to slaughter each year, nationwide, if not a lot more. The number of cows x weight of meat is a little simplistic, because your McDonald’s burger does not contain the better cuts of beef in it, anyway. The roast, sirloin, and skirt meat (for fajitas!) would be sold separately, along with other “choice” cuts, to other places. IIRC, burgers are made primarily of ground chuck.
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While we’re into cattle speak, you know there are cows and bulls, and the collective is “cattle.” Now, what is the name of the animal, itself?
“Bessie”
Cow? Bovine?
Cow.
Beef. There are cows and bulls, the descriptor “bovine,” and the collective “cattle.” But one animal is a beef.
Wouldn’t that make a group of them ‘beeves’?
Actually I remember reading that somewhere, Elizabethan period usage I think.
Without checking, I believe you’re right. Oh, and I think I read somewhere that the U.S. slaughters 35 million of them a year. That’s a lot of methane, imo.
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I love the fact that people think of “beef” only in terms of being from a cow or steer, then can’t come up with the name of the animal. I’ve stumped a lot of country folk with that question, which stumped me the first time, too.
Pardon my blooper.. I just say cow. I got it from my dad, when asked what his favourite meat was he would simply reply “cow”.
If I’m not mistaken, the term “bovine” can be applied to animals other that cows and bulls, like equus can be applied to animals other than horses.
No, I was not in 4-H when I was a wee lass.
The “Its stuck in the pipe, call Joe” one was funnier.
Click my name.
Enough already! Get over it!
Right, because the Clinton jokes have stopped. Settle down. I already told you it’s all a personal conspiracy against YOU. Might as well settle back and chill for the ride.
Well, I dislike Palin but this is ridiculous. Animals die. She is there. We gotta eat. Move on. If anything, I can respect a woman who can handle the facts of life. I do find it funny she waffled on about it later. I would have preferred if she had toughed it out and asked people how do they think turkeys get on the table.
To be honest, I wish people had the conviction/balls to kill their own food. Then perhaps we would have better respect for the animals we kill and less processed nonsense. You want a turkey? Hunt it, kill it, dress it, cook it.
Granted, one could point out the hypocrisy in my words since I haven’t gone out and hunted anything. Then again, I won’t be eating my dinner today, meat and all, then freaking out because I see the image of how it died. I already know it died. This isn’t news.
LOLz like this just make liberals or anybody who spoke against Palin look weak and stupid or pathetically out of touch with reality at best.
I agree about ridiculous people and their sensibilities, but some of the offhand comments she made juxtaposed against the bird stuffed in a funnel twitching out its last, blood spilling into the basin, had some grim unintended humor.
Really, compared to the industrial farm turkeys most people will be eating today, the free-range birds on that farm had it pretty good.
“grim unintended humor.”
True, that. I watched the video on HuffPost and couldn’t decide if I should laugh my head off or sit in stunned amazement. I wound up sort of doing both.
I agree. I’ve said this elsewhere in this post, but Palin *was told* about what activities were likely to take place behind her, but she decided to stay in the spot, regardless. I’m aware that meat comes from animals. It’s just that there’s a time and a place for everything, and Palin’s inability to discern as much goes to the point that she’s an igmo.
Igmo? I haven’t heard that since I was in the 6th grade :^)
LOL! That’s about when I stopped maturing, I guess. *ponders* Yep, that was it!
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What’s an igmo?
ignoramus + moron, I guess.
I giggled at it a little because the caption started a scene in my head where Palin happily scampers off as soon as the cameras stop running, chasing the dinners-to-be around, gobble-gobbling and all. Very much not a political giggle, just an absurdity one.
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I would agree if she had not be PARDONING a turkey a few moments ago. THAT’S the story, not that she was at a slaughter house.
Ah, the things I miss. However, I always felt the turkey pardoning was a bit ridiculous in and of itself. Seems a tad off to pardon a turkey from any position of power and then go off to have some meat product later.
So I will grant that it was hypocritical to talk about pardoning a turkey while others are slaughtered. Thank you for the information.
“LOLz like this just make liberals or anybody who spoke against Palin look weak and stupid or pathetically out of touch with reality at best.”
Can’t quite agree with you there. I don’t hunt, and I do eat meat (at least occasionally), and although I prefer not to think about some of the grosser parts of food preparation a la “Fast Food Nation”, neither am I so naive as to think that the meat magically appears in the supermarket where I shop.
That being said, I also think that we’ve all had plenty of evidence during the campaign of Palin’s callousness, mean-spiritedness, cluelessness, and apparent lack of concern for that which is appropriate. Making this LOL now may make her opponents seem like sore winners, but I do think it’s perfectly in character for her.
Yeah, but I really don’t want most of the people that I see at the grocery store walking around in the woods with loaded weapons…well only if I don’t have to go out at the same time to get my own. And (for the record) I don’t hunt, love red meat and don’t care where it comes from… reindeer steak for Christmas Dinner anyone?
In your case it comes from the freezer, since mom is the one who actually grocery shops. : P
“now this was fun!”
Poor turkeys.
Cant wait for xmas dinner YUM
I’m sure the bitches at PETA are furiously masturbating right now.
I didn’t want to laugh at this, but I did.
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Because “omg it’s food that’s where food comes from it’s natural” is being repeated ad nauseam everywhere: That is not the point. There are lots of things that are natural and yet aren’t an appropriate backdrop for an interview:
-People on the toilet
-Cattle being mated
-Drunk people throwing up
-Operations and Autopsies…
…the list goes on. These are all facts of life, just like killing animals for food. Still, they’re not good choices of things to be going on in the background if you’re giving an interview. You have a right to complain if you would accept the next state of the union address being given right next to a vet with his arm up a cow’s ass. If you think that would be inappropriate: So is this.
I would agree with you to some extent, but I would say that depends on what the interview is about.
If it is, in fact, about the process going on in the background, fair enough. Except Palin wasn’t. She’s talking about the political process, campaigning, “reigning in the growth of government” etc. What the bleep does that have to do with turkeys? She only referred to her location after she was asked about it. Bad, bad, bad choice.
Yep. Not only was she a horrible pick for VP, now she WON”T GO AWAY!! Maybe she could go on Oprah and they can duke it out for the camera’s attention.
Seriously, Min, haven’t you seen “Bambi vs. Godzilla”? There’d be no contest.
As to the interview, a governor pardons a condemned inmate then stands around giving an interview in the execution chamber. It’s what is known as “situational irony”.
Bambi vs Godzilla, FTW!
Well, yes, then it’s odd. Still, the lol isn’t too bad – a captioner can only work with the picture, not with assumptions on who have/haven’t seen it. So, yeah.
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reporter: “Thank you, senator.”
Palin: “Oh, we’re done now? Camera’s stopped?”
reporter: “Yes, and yes.”
Palin: “YAY!” *runs off, squeaking with joy*
sounds in the distance:
“gobblegobb…”*snap* “gobbl…” *snap* “go.” *snap* *snapsnapsnap*
No, I totally agree. Wasn’t complaining about the caption at all — just about the valiant defenders of Palin (actually, I’m not even saying this is her fault, it was just a clusterbleep all around). Whenever someone makes fun of the hilariously bad direction of this news segment, someone is bound to launch into a diatribe against how all them durn libruls are so out of tune with nature, and how we all apparently think hamburgers come from the supermarket, how we should all kill our own food and so on, and so forth.
This ticks me off. Yeah, lookin’ at you too, DeathWyrmNexus. I and every meat eater I know knows where meat comes from, how animals are farmed and killed (and most do, to some extent, care about how it’s done too). There is not a hint of naivete about this, much less “weakness”. It’s a misrepresentation of what the issue is with this news segment.
On a side note: the large-scale meat farming, the process of killing, butchering, preparing etc. has little to do with the lovely romanticised hunting-and-gathering that so many people think is beneficial to the human experience and the eradication of “weakness”. Not even every person from a prehistoric hunter-gatherer society could stomach the serialized butchering necessary for a modern, industrialised meat supply. Killing one animal every now and then is a far less harrowing experience. Note that I’m still not outraged that a turkey is being killed in the video in question. I’m just annoyed at the super-simplistic “people are so out of touch with their food”-talking point. Most people who run their mouth about the “weak” modern society couldn’t stand half a day in a meat packing plant, whether they’ve killed one or two animals themselves or not. There’s a reason why the job of butchering animals for other people is one of the oldest in the history of civilisation: It takes skill, it takes nerves and it is considered an unappetizing process, on the whole — so kudos to the people who do it.
But, hey, those Romans with their new-fangled outsourcing ideas can just get lost with their wussy attitudes; empires are built on flint axes and spears, right? In our day, we killed our own mammoths!
(whew, that felt good. Still, rant mode off.
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“No, I totally agree. Wasn’t complaining about the caption at all — just about the valiant defenders of Palin (actually, I’m not even saying this is her fault, it was just a clusterbleep all around).”
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Ah, I see. There is much confusion in the comments here on what is actually being commented on, I think I misinterpreted your post somewhat, and for that I apologize.
*stops butchering chicken long enough to raise deboning knife high in the air*
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Hear hear!
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*goes back to mass slaughter of nasty little chickens*
reporter: “Thank you, senator.”
Palin: “Oh, we’re done now? Camera’s stopped?”
reporter: “Yes, and yes.”
Palin: “YAY!” *runs off, squeaking with joy*
sounds in the distance:
“gobblegobb…”*snap* “gobbl…” *snap* “go.” *snap* *snapsnapsnap*
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LMAO!!
Oooer! Good to see that someone else shares my sense of situation humour.
That was a stroke of genius, Danbala! You provide excellent visuals, complete with, uh, soundtracks!
I agree. The only outrage here is the idiocy of a camera man setting up in full view of a person slitting turkey’s throats and draining their blood into a bucket.
I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but they either meant to make her look bad or are just blithering morons.
The interview was for a local Alaska station. Sort of diminishes the sabotage angle…well, sort of. She hasn’t exactly ingratiated herself with the home crowd.
Or in a segment of society where hunting is much more part of the mainstream, nobody thought it was all that awkward except in retrospect.
Her talking about the campaign being brutal and being asked about budget items “on the chopping block” remain priceless, however.
I agree with you.
Actually the reporter asked her if she would like to move to a different place for the interview and she told him, no this is fine. My problem with the showing the back ground is not that we don’t know where meat comes from but children watch the pardoning of a turkey, they don’t need to see the slaughter of them.
She doesn’t need help to look bad or to be a blithering moron, she can do it all be herself.
I suspect it went something like, “Hey, can we shoot from this angle? Uh…the light’s better! Yeah, that’s it!” and since she’s mostly facing the camera she may not have realized until after the interview started that the guy is continuing to slaughter turkeys behind her, at which point her options are a) maintain composure and finish the interview or b) stop the interview, ream out the cameraman, and look like a raging bitch.
Personally, I thought it was hilarious that they pixellated out some of the turkey-killingness on the news, as if it were something obscene. If you can’t deal with where your meat comes from, feel free to go vegetarian. (And pass the turkey!)
I mean, seriously, this is *ALASKA*! There wasn’t anything picturesque available as a backdrop?!? I simply don’t believe it!
AMEN!!
“You have a right to complain if you would accept the next state of the union address being given right next to a vet with his arm up a cow’s ass.”
Wait, is that actually an option? Hmm.
Especially since, in Alaska, I’m sure finding an attractive backdrop for an interview isn’t much of a challenge!
AMEN again!!
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turkey genocide!
not really, the sort of turkey’s you eat on thanksgiving is hardly a turkey anyway. It’s more like a mutated version that lacks any survival skills at all.
Kind of like KaBoom, huh?
I only wish that KaBooM was that same guy from TV with the loud voice. You know the guy? He sells KaBoom! cleaner, and I think his first name is Billy. At any rate, I would dearly love to put him in that turkey processing funnel thing, or give him the ol’ “Fargo” treatment…but I digress. Often.
Come to think of it, “pardoning” turkeys doesn’t make any sense at all. The turkeys aren’t being executed for their crimes (that I know of). The turkey population, by and large, does not seem to be involved in drug trafficking or money laundering. I never heard of a group of turkeys taking people hostage. Why do politicians DO this? Who started it, anyway?
tI dunno. Them turkeys look like a shifty lot to me…
“The turkey population, by and large, does not seem to be involved in drug trafficking or money laundering.”
NOW who’s being naive?
Per usual, laughing my arse off at you, girl! Do you know how much I have to eat to keep my arse growing back? I oughta send you a grocery bill…
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Somebody please tell McBarbie that her 15 minutes are up.
The only chance for a bump back to national fame would be doing a porno with Joe the Plumber.
{You’d watch it. You know you would.}
Will they throw in “Peggy the Welfare Queen” too?
yeah, im sure she does that
Has anyone here actually snapped a turkey’s neck? I haven’t, but I have snapped a chicken’s neck or two (get your mind out of the gutter, I used to raise chickend : ) ). There’s nothing more satisfying than watching the little bastard go down!
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I HATE chickens, which probably explains my current occupation : )
as long as you just twisted their necks and didn’t choke any of them. (sorry, froo, I know it was wrong, but I just had to say it).
LOL, we won’t go there ; )
Porbably wise
Probably besy. (I hope the other’s don’t pop in… why is PK eating emoticons)
I mean BEST… no cows implied
I’ve seen a chicken get it’s head cut off on TV…but it lived
i think someone mentioned this, but doesn’t the failblog channel on youtube have this interview?
Sarah Palin being a tasteless moron breaking news. Just not breaking news by any definition.
Lul…turkeys are freaking scary animals, it’d be interesting to see her try and get close up enough to a wild one to snap it’s neck…then again turkeys are pretty dumb birds and will drown in the rain…usually.
I’ve never met a nice wild turkey or a nice domesticated (farm) turkey before..they just run at me like GOBBLE GOBBLE DIE BITCH! ;~; unprovoked too!
I can’t believe that’s breaking news though… Lul at the station symbol…even though it’s a peacock and not a turkey it’s still pretty close.
I like Sarah Palin.
Thank God im Canadian.
A better caption would have been “This is the last time I let the Press pick the interview location.”
Sarah Palin showed herself to be an idiot; she didn’t need anyone else’s help to look stupid. Watch the Katie Couric interview, or read the transcript — it’s as clear as day.
And, Obama is far better at articulating ideas (and doing so in complete sentences) than Sarah Palin, by far. The “um” factor? That doesn’t hold water, when you compare what each person is (and has been) saying. So, he’s not entirely used to being in a national spotlight just yet? “Um” does not damage an expression (even though it’s not a good use of someone’s speech time).
Really. There’s a reason that she and McCain lost. I was embarassed for him when he picked her. He could have done far better than her, and it was a cheap shot.
Sarah Palin was crippled by the fact that she is a LOT more Conservative (big C) than McCain, and still had to follow the party line. She can’t sound like she’s different than the candidate. She had to think about her answers, because they were coached answers and not gut reactions. Obama has a lot of the same problems (that’s where the “uh’s” come in) because he’s a lot more left wing (don’t flame me, I know it has a different meaning here) than he lets on. He has to think about his answers.
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Neither candidate is stupid. Quit singling out one person just because you disagree with them.
“Neither candidate is stupid. Quit singling out one person just because you disagree with them.”
I don’t agree with McCain: McCain is a smart person and a decent American.
I don’t agree with Palin. Palin is a moron, and FAR too unpatiotic to be VP.
I’m sure it’s fun to imagine that the complaints about Palin are nothing but political stances, but in fact, there are morons out there in the world, and in fact Palin is one of them. So is Bush. If the Republicans don’t like having their candidates referred to as “morons”, they need to stop nominating morons as their candidates. Notice that no-one referred to McCain as a moron: we DO know the difference.
Thank you, Paul. You win 1.5 internets! That’s the best boil-down I’ve seen yet! I’ve tried to express the same sentiment in >1000 more words, and didn’t come close to you. Good job!
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“Sarah Palin was crippled by the fact that she is a LOT more Conservative (big C) than McCain, and still had to follow the party line.”
And slightly* insane. (From the view of most of the peopple I know, including me.).
*) where “slightly” means A LOT.
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“Neither candidate is stupid.”
Probably not, but are you sure that none of the VP suggestions weren’t a wee bit … INSANE?
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Yeah, I’m being Swedish here – my only concern with the US election(s) is that I prefer what I think is safest and most constructive for the world as a whole, and
godwhatever-you-think-is/are-the-powers-in-control knows that Dubya was bad, and the McCain/Palin combo was frighteningly close (at least in all appearance) to go in that same direction or even further off the sanity track.“but are you sure that none of the VP suggestions weren’t”
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AAARGH! I got caught in the friggin’ double negative. I will now and spank myself thoroughly to teach me a lesson. Ooh yeah.
Back the self-flogging wagon up, Sistah! You made total sense!
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The problem with your definition of insane is that it rests on her not being able to give a decent interview, not on anything that is definable. Sarah Palin is right wing (as in make Rush Limbaugh proud right winger) who isn’t palatable for most people living in the United States or around the world. That doesn’t make her stupid, insane, or anything else. It makes her RIGHT WING and nothing else. Like I said before, she isn’t ready yet. One day maybe. But not yet. And NOT insane.
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Being a non-American, I’d guess that you’re getting most of your news from only left wing or more left than BBC type sources given what you wrote about McCain and Palin being anything like GWB in the slightest. McCain and Bush have tussled about numberous things, and I don’t consider then even remotely alike.
Actually, I think ourmedia has really triewd to be fiar, I was being a bit more childish than called for. But seriously – saying really weird things in interviews go fairly far in the “not-having-all-the-horses-in-the-stable”-direction for me. For real, she scared me lot-lots.
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I am not saying anything about intelligence here, but her view of the world is so far from mine (which is not completely “out there” by our standards) that it seems insane (like the A.C.Clarke definition of advanced technology). It might be that Palin is just centuries ahead of me, but … abortion issues, creationism issues, foreign-policy-experience-issues …
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I’m thankful to the American people for the way the vote fell this time.
Thank you for still talking to us Americans, despite our bad choices for the last eight years! It’s nice to see that people overseas understand the difference between the will of our nation and the results of trust that has been abused.
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In the way of explanation, Froo and I come from Dubya’s state, Texas, where the prevalent opinion sides with Froo. In Texas, I’m considered to be the screwy, if not crazy, type. I’m sure Froo reels a little when she’s confronted with world views, as they differ greatly from those she is exposed to daily. That said, I like Froo plenty.
Froo doesn’t reel, Froo just shakes head in wonderment :^) Froo is a lot more worldy than she lets on.
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*mumbles under breath *”you better like teh froo…..teh froo likeses you” *mumble mumble*
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I likeses teh froo ver-ver muchez!
“given what you wrote about McCain and Palin being anything like GWB in the slightest”
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Sorry, I missed commenting on this in my post. I am sure there were vast differences, but living in a foreign country, what affects me most is foreign policy, and then – in the for us vital matters – Dubya/mcCain is just two sides to the same pile of war.
To me, and to the vast majority of American voters, McCain offered nothing substantially different than a regurgitation of the policies of George Bush. The McCain campaign tried mightily to run away from the unpopular president, but imo spent far too much time trying to assasinate the character of Obama, and not enough time demonstrating a difference that the American voter could see. Imo, you may be mistaken that there were vast differences between Dubya and McCain. I didn’t see much difference, and I’m not alone.
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And her intelligence (or lack thereof) is ‘apparent’ to you because you’re sitting left of the center. You WANT to see her as an idiot because you disagree with her. I admit having to fight my inbred predudices against Obama because he and I don’t agree on ANYTHING, so it’s hard for me to see him as a non-idiot. I can admit that he’s well-spoken at times.
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It irritates me that Sarah Palin is portrayed as something she is not. She is not, by any stretch of the imagination, an idiot. You just don’t agree with her.
“It irritates me that Sarah Palin is portrayed as something she is not. She is not, by any stretch of the imagination, an idiot. You just don’t agree with her.”
That’s utter PC nonsense, and you know.
That’s a troll statement. Back it up :^)
You’re right, what was I thinking? After all, Obama only went to one college to get his undergraduate degree. Palin went to five!
She must be better edjimicated then, right?
Don’t be flippant, dear. I went to four colleges :^) I enjoyed the hell out of each of them, too!
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And I never said she was better educated. I said she isn’t the idiot she’s made out to be. That’s all! :^)
Slan, that’s not fair! Sarah went to one of those schools twice, so she only technically went to four schools, and is therefore just as smart as Froo. Actually, I like Froo, and, therefore, cannot stand by my insult, though Froo may not feel insulted, although she should .
Oh, crap. My head is going off into that Escher drawing thing again…
“You WANT to see her as an idiot because you disagree with her.”
OK, while I freely admit that my perceptions of people are subjective, and probably have a lot to do with whether I perceive them as being “like me” (which I think is common to human nature overall), I think you’re using something of a broad brushstroke here, and I don’t think it’s completely successful.
You are obviously intelligent, even though we don’t agree on all things. eddiepscetti, ditto. William Buckley and George Will and Barry Goldwater are examples of people who I respect as intelligent, even though I don’t necessarily agree with their politics.
There is the political spectrum, and then separate from that, there are degrees of intelligence at every stage of the political spectrum (who said geometry doesn’t come in handy in real life?). That being said, Sarah Palin, in her every utterance that I’ve heard, has impressed me as being not only ill-informed, but intellectually incurious (neither of which are quite the same as unintelligent).
I’ll give you ill-informed, and perhaps (maybe, grudgingly) intellectually incurious. I can’t stand it when she’s lumped in with the unintelligent. She may not be up on current events, or be able to quote you the population stats for Outer Mongolia off the top of her head, but she is obviously SOMETHING, or she wouldn’t be where she is. Even Lorne Michaels said that when she walks into a room she OWNS it, that’s she’s incredibly articulate and easy to get along with. That is a very expressive type of intelligence, and has nothing to do with ‘book lernin”.
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I view her as an apple that was picked before it got ripe. It will one day become a really large, prize winning, and melt in your mouth sweet apple, but if you pick it too early you just get the bitter tiny fruit.
Froo, come on, now. We Texans don’t know eff-all about apples. What I’ve read indicates that apples don’t grow in size after they’re picked. I’m sorry, but your girl is a flash in the pan. As much as I would dearly love to see her torn asunder in the 2012 primaries, something tells me that my wishes may be circumvented by the GOP elders. First impressions die hard: Your dream candidate just doesn’t cut the mustard. Why aren’t you focusing on the likes of Kay Bailey Hutchison or Olympia Snow?
I’d rather have Bobby Jindal.
You may have a point there. Bobby Jindal has that Obama flair. You know I like Kay Bailey better than anyone, because of her stance on stem cell research and her Houston roots. That said, Olympia Snow is no slob, and I really think Charlie Crist could be a tough adversary.
I’m glad to see you aren’t putting all of your “apples” into one basket. There is more to life than being loyal to a one-trick pony. You and I will never agree, but I feel sorry for Sarah Palin, in a way. She was drawn out into the national stage, which fed her ego, but which did little for her party. Vanity aside, it wasn’t her fault that she was chosen to run. Bobby Jindal (or Charlie Crist or Kay Bailey Hutchison or Olympia Snow) would have been a better choice, in the first place.
Isn’t it funny how nobody mentions Christine Todd Whitman anymore? I suppose that’s because the GOP has prostrated itself too thoroughly to the radical right for an intelligent moderate woman to be welcome in the tent these days.
Somewhere around the time that the Palinator was sinking the McCain campaign but good, I posted a comment to the effect that, if they felt that they absolutely HAD to have a woman on the ticket to get the Hillary fans (which I don’t agree with, but anyway), they should have gone with a known quality like Christine Whitman or Liddy Dole, but some genius on the campaign staff got the bright idea that Sarah Palin would be a better choice because she was further right than the other two.
I remember that. I think the PK regulars compiled quite a list of conservative women that would have made much better choices than Sarah Palin. It was fun playing what-if like that! ; )
Out of hundreds of great captions, THIS is the one you guys went with? Hope that blow job was worth it…
Seriously weak.
It was very nice, but you should see to getting that chipped tooth filed down. Ouch.
My disagreement with Sarah Palin has nothing to do with my argument that she is (truly) an idiot. Here’s one example:
“GIBSON: We talk on the anniversary of 9/11. Why do you think those hijackers attacked? Why did they want to hurt us?
PALIN: You know, there is a very small percentage of Islamic believers who are extreme and they are violent and they do not believe in American ideals, and they attacked us and now we are at a point here seven years later, on the anniversary, in this post-9/11 world, where we’re able to commit to never again. They see that the only option for them is to become a suicide bomber, to get caught up in this evil, in this terror. They need to be provided the hope that all Americans have instilled in us, because we’re a democratic, we are a free, and we are a free-thinking society. ”
Here, Palin attempts to answer the question that Gibson asks. But she does so by spouting sound bites and emotionally-charged words (‘American ideals’ and ‘never again’ and evil and terror and hope, and ‘free-thinking society’ ), not by explaining how she thinks those ideas (the sound bites) provoked the hijackers to attack. She didn’t say WHY they want to hurt us, or what we may have done to provoke any anger — she just says that they are against our ideals.
I think a much better answer would have included an understanding of the conflict, and of the impact that U.S. politics has had historically on the Middle East (nearly all of which is Islamic). Also, she could have tied the idea of us being a ‘free-thinking society in with a contrast to Muslim societies like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Indonesia, as well as the former Taliban-ruled Afghanistan, where women’s rights and liberties have been grossly restrained by radical Islamic fundamentalists. She could have spoken of Islamic terrorists in Morocco who blow up schools, because they are schools for girls; she could have talked about the groups of Religious Police in Iran and Afghanistan who beat women who they find on the street who are wearing nail polish or makeup. SHe could have spoken of the drastic rise in female suicides after the takover of the Taliban in Afghanistan, because women who were doctors and lawers and professionals were now confined to their homes by Islamic laws.
Sarah Palin spoke of none of these things; she did not demonstrate anything but a very rudimentary view of Islamic countries and their politics. And I’m not that smart in these issues — I took some classes in college, and I read online news (a lot of the BBC, with Reuters and ABC News).
But that’s just basic civillian knowledge. I expect the leaders of my nation to be a LOT smarter than I am, and to be much more educated on international issues than I am, ESPECIALLY if they have the possibility to be the person running my country. Sarah Palin falls woefully short. Perhaps she is not the idiot that she appears to be, but she has no business in a national post of any importance where critical decisions are made. NONE.
Even you, in your defense of Sarah Palin, have spoken more succinctly and with a clearer presentation of ideas, than she does in any of the interviews I’ve heard (or read, as transcript). If elections were based solely on speech/presentation, I would much sooner vote for you than her, even though you vehemently disagree with me. Although I don’t know how well you present yourself verbally in public or on TV; care to spend $150,000 on clothes and take a swing at the next GOP Veep slot? You might get me to switch parties.
To be really, really honest, and probably making me flame-bait for lots of US citizens, what surprised me most about 9/11 was the multitude of Americanswho went “I have NO IDEA how this could happen to us!?!?!?!?”
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(and yes, feel free to flame away at the “Americanswho”.
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Upon hearing the news of the Twin Tower airplane attacks, Bill Clinton instantly said, “Osama bin Ladin.” Even I, with my simple understanding of world opinions, was surprised at the severity achieved, but not at the sentiment behind it.
This is getting beyond silly.
Froo, if ot soklely came down to grammar and presentation of ideas, I would vote for YOU as Veep, over Sarah Palin. Your sentences have nouns and verbs, and your nouns and verbs match. You don’t use run-on sentences, nor do you construct your sentences with nested dependent clauses (that are mighty hard to follow).
You express your ideas succinctly (even if I disagree with them), and you respond to my ideas with counter-ideas that pretty much match up (i.e.: when I say something about apples, you respond back about how oranges are better — you don’t go spouting off about telephones and flowerpots). Your flow of logic and ideas is sound, even if the conclusions are (imho) wrong.
And now I’m going back to my lunch. Have a good post-Turkey Day, all!
(sorry for spelling errors)
As far as me running for office, the amount of cussing I do at the screen before I sit down and actually scrabble together a rational answer would keep me out of politics, lol. :^)
I want to make it a known fact that I would vote for you before I would vote for Sarah Palin.
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poor turkey
Leave the wolves! What have they done?!
The turkey being cut up and stuff was so disgusting that it was blurred out on my local news station o.o
Sarah Palin is a waste of a great set of tits but she sure makes life more interesting for the rest of us.