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I’m in Heaven being proud of my country


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I’m in Heaven being proud of my country

(Tim Russert)

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  1. Brittany says:

    WHOO FIRST!

  2. Kolera says:

    It’s sad that some of Obama’s biggest proponents passed on before they could see him win the election.

  3. SimonO says:

    If it took his party winning for him to be proud of his country, then he’s not proud of his country at all, he’s just proud of his party.

    • Nenya says:

      It doesn’t say he (or the person writing the macro) wasn’t proud of their country before. And you can be ashamed or proud of things your country does, and still love it. Just like you can with your family or your friends. “I’m really proud that you did X” doesn’t mean “I never was proud of you before or cared about you.” Especially if you’re talking about someone who finally did something they were trying for for a long time (like get an A in school or something). America finally elected a nonwhite president. That’s pretty darn cool, and I think Tim Russert would agree. :) )

      • Simon says:

        fair enough

      • froofrou says:

        The unspoken implication is that he wasnt proud before though. I dont think thats true, russert was always a great person and very proud of his country, but its an unfair implication that it took voting in a non white president for people to think that this is a great country.

        • n8 says:

          The pride doesn’t have to be about race. It could just be pride that we didn’t choose the candidate of fear and division, but rather the candidate of hope and unity.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            See? There’s a nice way of looking at it too!

            Honi soit que mal y pense…

          • Xavier says:

            Or, at least, the candidate who thinks before acting. By all accounts in the Newsweek year-long behind-the-scenes reporting on the various campaigns, the only one who wasn’t acting impulsively was Obama. Now, I am sure there is some portside list to their favorable coverage, but we will be forced to assume that it wasn’t *all* lies…

          • Failerella says:

            what n8 said!

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Don’t worry… it’s counterbalanced by people who never tohught the US was much cop, and still don’t, irrespective of the colour of the President Elect.

          One comment about the whole ‘Obama ain’t American born’ cases… in 22 months I could have sources a decent forgery of a Hawaiian (an Hawaiian?) birth cert… let alone someone with the political infighting abilities of someone who was elected President of the US

          • rhorho says:

            The forgery wouldn’t have mattered, or they certainly would have tried it. Obama’s mother was a US citizen, case closed. She could have had him on Mars, and he would still be a US citizen. The *truly* stupid thing was the effort to disqualify McCain, whose father (an admiral and the son of an admiral) and mother were on a US base in a foreign country. I don’t know what it is, but there needs to be a special name for this phenomenon. I would suggest “tail-chase politics,” but that’s too long.

            • Jamieteevee says:

              McCain was born to United States citizens on US territory, (a military base on foreign soil), he was a citizen at birth and there was never a real contest of his fitness for Presidency. A few foolhardy people put up a lawsuit, primarily, to contrast the lawsuits in progress against Barack Obama.
              McCain is a citizen and a patriot, no doubt.
              Obama is a citizen and a patriot, no doubt.
              I am glad that Obama won. I think that he has a clearer vision of what needs to be done to fix the economy, the healthcare system, the “war” on terrorism, and many other pressing issues. I am also ECSTATIC that Palin is out of the picture for, no less, than 4 years. She is a detriment to ALL progressive ideals like women’s equality, women’s right to choose, freedom of religion, equality of all race, gender, age, identity of Americans. She would NOT break any glass ceiling, but would rather nail impregnable shields in place that would take generations of suffrage to eradicate.

      • Dana says:

        It’s not as simple as “finally elected a nonwhite President.” If the first black President had been Alan Keyes, I wouldn’t have been very proud. The man’s a homophobic nutcase. Likewise, I’m a woman and a feminist, but had McCain won, I wouldn’t have been very proud. Like anyone who votes in anything resembling a democracy, I want my ideals and beliefs to carry the day. Those who voted for Obama didn’t just vote for a black man, they voted for the specific ideals and beliefs Obama was promulgating. If they only voted for a black man to vote for a black man, that’s not very responsible voting.

        That said, yes, the idea that we have somewhat moved beyond racism is an inspiring one, except I don’t believe we have. One, Obama is rather light-skinned; I doubt a darker-skinned black man would have had as much success no matter what he stood for. Two, Obama’s a black MAN, and there was a black woman running–we seem, as a country, to save most of our racism for the people who couldn’t even manage to be born male. (When was the last time you heard of a welfare *king*?) Three, the very fact people are saying that electing him “proves we’ve moved on from racism” betrays a breathtakingly heartless refusal to actually LOOK at what it’s like to be black in this country and all the ways America has gone wrong in race relations. Katrina was just three years ago, people. Do you really think we’ve gotten better about racism in that short amount of time?

        And it isn’t just Southerners–I see racism here in Ohio all the damn time. It’s more subtle, and you don’t lose your reputation if you live in a “black” neighborhood as you would down South, but believe me, it’s there. And if I as a white woman can see it, and we’re notoriously obtuse when it comes to seeing racism? We still have a long way to go.

        • Dana says:

          All this is not to say I want to be a wet blanket about Obama winning, and I think we *have* made progress. But let’s not rest on our laurels, mmkay? We haven’t earned very many anyhow.

        • Marshy says:

          You know who would haev a really hard time running for President today? A black female lesbian Muslim. Although if a woman like that ran for President and won, it would’ve killed 4 birds with one stone.

          • Elliott says:

            Well, Wanda Sykes is three out of four. She may be your best bet.

            • Alice_D says:

              I would totally vote for Wanda Sykes. Helllllllll yeah.

            • wundawomun says:

              Yuk, Wanda Sykes is totally obnoxious. She is not funny to me at all. I think there’s only one movie that she didn’t thoroughly annoy me in. Her show was lame.

            • jules says:

              Oh god she’s awful. The way I feel about her can be summed up by one of my favorite comments, one made by Bill Cosby at some music awards (I believe it was BET). When Wanda Sykes asked him how he and other comedians of his time came to be such respected black comedians his answer was “We spoke proper English”.

              • jerseygirl in GA says:

                Wanda’s stand-up is insanely funny, and she is really funny on impromptu situations (I fell over laughing when she was on Celebrity poker)… but there is no one like The Cos!!! The Cos is the best!

                • FaileV says:

                  I find her acting to be rather annoying “I’m the witty sassy black lady” type thing, and it annoys the crap out of me, her stand up is better when she isn’t trying to fit into a stereotype.

            • Failerella says:

              wha? when did she come out (I damn sure know she’s not Muslim)

          • Uncle Fester says:

            I think a black female lesbian Muslim would have an easier ride than a white male straight atheist.

            • ema says:

              It’s cause you guys don’t have any holidays… Your no fun.

              • Jamieteevee says:

                If you mean “holidays” as in Holy Days. You are right. No day is “Holy”. it’s a day. If we choose to honor a day for some special reason and call it a holiday, what’s the difference? I can assure you that Christmas will still be in effect, not because it signifies the “birth of our savior” but because it is an important day near solstice that signifies the hope of a new year. That is what “Christmas” has ALWAYS signified. Your “Mass” was arbitrarily deposited on the yuletide to represent it’s function. Every major religion has a holiday on or near this day for a very significant reason, it is the first day of the year that you can actually see the day beginning to get longer. Spring is coming and you know how long it will be to get here. Rejoice! An end to the dreary, unending days of cold and bitter days!
                Wait, but there’s more! Independence Day! What a remarkably NONSECULAR holiday! Hurray! We won independence from our forebears. O and Thanksgiving! A day we set aside to honor the trust put to us by the people who lived here before us before we betrayed them and slaughtered them wholesale. Be sure to add an “AMEN” when you finish your list of all things you are thankful for before you eat your farm raised, steroid injected, anti-biotic fed turkey.
                Do you actually think that “we” would not honor Veterans or those who died in service to the country? What’s left? Oh, Columbus Day and President’s Day. You are probably right, I am no longer in favor of Columbus day, I never have been. Nice to have a day off in school but what are we really celebrating? President’s Day is a little homogenized but worth recognizing. Why not?
                You can bet your ass that we would be rocking the house with such honorable days as Martin Luther King Jr. Day. A man that is martyred for the cause of equality? I would not sanctify anything less.
                We know how to have fun. In fact we know what “fun” is and it’s not a government sanctioned holiday. It is the celebration of something relevant to the life you live and the joys you hold dear.

                • ema says:

                  But, there really aren’t any specific “atheist” holidays to celebrate anything specific to atheists. All those you mention are shared by everyone. I was just kidding anyway…

                  • alice says:

                    Wikipedia calls Kwanzaa “…meditation and study of “African traditions” and “common humanist principles.”
                    There ya go – a humanist holiday. No religion involved.

                  • FaileV says:

                    let’s study this phenomina for a moment. Why are there Religous specific holidays. I believe there are two answers to this, or one depending on how you want to split hairs.
                    1. taking pre existing traditions to retcon them and draw the followers to their own religon (or just take their older traditions and change it to better fit their view of the world) Most of the major christian holidays are just versions of older holidays. Christmas, Easter (ever wonder why we have bunnies and eggs? it’s left over from honoring a previous goddess) halloween…there’s more but i’ll leave you to research things as you get interested.
                    2. To keep the followers in the faith interested and stopping a melancholy. Going to church every sunday is great for the devote but days tend to run together, specific holy days are like a jumpstart to faith, it brings people together and is a further time for “hey, god is awesome”

                    why are there no athiest specific holidays? Atheism has just recently (taking into account human history) become a mainstream practice as religon is used less to try and explain the world around us. Atheism does not need holidays to push or keep faith up because atheism has no faith to push or keep up.

                    As far as I am concerned no new holiday needs to be invented. I like to celebrate the end of the year like any other person, it’s a social time where i can show my feelings for those close to me via presents. What else is there to do, and what is specifically Atheist?
                    “I don’t believe in any gods” day? christianity may as well make a “this is totally not about the roman pantheon” day.

            • AtlasShrugged says:

              To borrow a phrase..”in bed?”

            • jules says:

              Add gay to that.

        • fergie says:

          If this black woman you are referring to is Cynthia McKinney, well, it’s not about whether she’s a black woman or not. it’s whether she is a complete nutjob or not. And, she is. Completely.

        • fxquant says:

          you mean Alan Keyes was gasp, gasp, gasp … a filthy traitorous Republican, don’t you?

          • Jamieteevee says:

            no, he was a completely psychopathic nutjob.
            Please look up the actual definition of psychopathic and apply it as necessary.

            • froofrou says:

              Hang on now, Alan Keyes is labeled as a psychopathic nutjob because he has a very narrowly defined set of morals given him by his specific religion and he stands by them no matter what? So anyone who stands firm on what they believe in is a ‘psychopathic nutjob’ by your definition. Alan Keyes is just dedicated to what he believes.

              • Robert says:

                That scares people who lack belief in something.

              • FaileV says:

                I don’t know enough about Alan Keyes to agrue for him, but that set aside, an unrelenting stand can be considered psychopathic yes. It is one thing to be steadfast in your belief. it is another to be set firm and against any change or adaption no matter what experiences or new information you have. That is the difference between those that feel the world is only 6000 years old, and those that believe the christian moral code and use that to deal with everyday life.

        • Uncle Fester says:

          Or Jesse ‘Media Whore’ Jackson. Or Al ‘Bigot’ Sharpton…

          • rhorho says:

            Those tears were real, Ma-a-a-an!

          • Jamieteevee says:

            Jesse Jackson has some major flaws. He manages to piss me off, immensely, at least every 4 years. He is a media whore. I will not refute that. On the other hand. He has done more for tolerance in this country than anyone since Martin Luther King Jr. and he deserves respect for that. If you think that being a media whore is evidence of unworthiness then please name ANYONE in the news that IS worthy.

    • FC says:

      I don’t know any (decent) Americans who were proud of their country until Bush was out anyway…

      • froofrou says:

        that is an extremely unfair thing to say. i can be proud of my country and be patriotic an love this isplace without being particularly proud of or even liking the current president. for you to say that shows a very narrow frame of mind.

        • Jess says:

          You know what? I can’t stand Bush, and I agree with everything you just said. I was (and still am) so ashamed of Bush for the past eight years… but I still loved my country.

          Having said that though, it wouldn’t stop me from saying I was from Canada had I ever traveled abroad. Pride does not win out over self preservation.

        • Marshy says:

          I love the US of A too. That doesn’t mean I have to approve of every stupid decision we’ve made. This country isn’t perfect, but really, no country is. I still love this place.

        • FaileV says:

          yeah i’m with them on this. I’ve been ashamed of my country many times. on high and low levels, but through out all of that i still love the place enough to stay and change it for the better.

      • ema says:

        I am proud of the country because of the ideals we attempt to live up to, not that we always do. Also the fact that we still are able to speak our minds and do something to change things every now and then if we feel moved. That has little to do with any particular president.

      • Tessie says:

        I was proud of my country, but not of my government. For the last 8 years, I despaired for my country because the things my government was doing were deplorable.

    • Paul says:

      Nonsense. That would only be true if the Republican party had not done so much recently to shame the United States. Defeating them is, in fact, something that the United States can be proud of, and of course, Americans ARE proud of it.

    • ShadowVenus says:

      If that is your assumption, then I must ask if you ever actually watched MTP while Russert was host?

  4. Nenya says:

    Aww. I choked up a bit. :) )

  5. DW says:

    Oh. I has a sad now.

  6. Mr. Happy Face says:

    Aww this is soo sweet.

  7. MAJGross says:

    Tim Russert would absolutely be proud of his country for this. I’m sure he is rolling in his grave over the media influence on the election. Tim Russert was a fair man.

    • Casey says:

      Always with the media. The media is always the problem when things don’t go your way. Gettin’ pretty tired of THAT tune. NEXT!

      • Robert says:

        Well, when Obama gets more stories with more positive spin and McCain gets fewer stories with more negative spin…I mean, seriously, if McCain was friends with an abortion clinic bomber, went to a white supremacist church, or purchased his house from a slum lord at a price dramatically below market value, you better freakin’ believe that would have been an issue. It would have been the only story, over and over again.

        • Robert says:

          Just like if Sarah Palin or John McCain had said any one of the dumbass things Biden and Obama said, that would have been trumpeted non-stop.

          • dropping in says:

            Why does no one on the right seem to recall the 1990s? The media, and Congress committed witch-huntery…sometimes they fall with you, sometimes against. Logically I have a hard time buying the Obama was given more pleasant coverage out of a bias- while most reporters to admit to being more liberal- their bosses (Rupert Murdock) are Republican activists and leaders in the RNC…so that plays a role too in my head…

  8. Kaitlin says:

    I dunno. I think Big Tim would have been majorly disgusted by the rhetoric and polarization, pre- and post-election. I wish he was here to help with his great perspective.

  9. ema says:

    I don’t think there would be any concept of “country” in heaven much less being proud of it…

    • FaileV says:

      i would disagree there, certainly there would be no self inclusion with the idea of country. in heaven there wouldn’t be americans or british or whatever, I think that they could easily look on at groups of people, recognize them as different and be proud of them each equally for their accomplishments. There would be no “hey look my country totally beat your country” nonsense but more “look, that group of people accomplished something to better humanity”

  10. redheaded1 says:

    I miss Tim so much.

  11. missk8 says:

    i really liked this one. not a lol, but definitely smile-inducing. tim russert was a great man.
    so unfair he wasn’t here to see it – but i’m sure young luke will work to fill those big shoes as will the many future journalists he inspired.
    thanks for sharing. :)

  12. FormerRepublican says:

    I has a sad, too.

    I think Tim Russert has always been proud of and loved his country. He also loved politics and the political process. I think he would be proud of his country, regardless of the outcome; he would be proud of the enthusiasm of both campaigns, of the people who went out and gladly waited HOURS in lines to vote, that we could accomplish this great democratic undertaking in peace and safety. I think he would be proud of the involvement and interest among young people in this election, and proud of the work his son is doing.

    That’s what this caption says to me.

    Miss you, Tim.

  13. royallyfuked says:

    who the hell is Tim Russert?
    And why in the hell should I care?

    • Rvo says:

      Look him up. He was pretty freaking fantastic.

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  14. seth says:

    This is in horrible taste

  15. headslammer says:

    Good man. I am sure he is.

  16. Robert says:

    Tim Russert would have actually asked Obama tough questions, unlike every other “journalist” in the last 20 months.

  17. alleee says:

    Sigh.
    Facepalm. Why I’m an atheist.

    You’d think that finally, in heaven, we’d be rid of the concept of “country.”

  18. debra says:

    I miss Tim.

  19. ookimo says:

    Thank you for the smile. What a great caption!


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