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Making your parents proud Yer doin’ it right

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  1. Mayken says:

    Awesome!

    • metonymy says:

      I saw this in voting and already forwarded it to all the parents I know. At least four people doing it right in this picture.

    • Tehshay says:

      Very touching. :D

      • ell says:

        I don’t think it’s touching I think it’s wrong. Fine for the parents to be involved in politics they know what is going on and what each candiates stand for but those kids don’t they are just waving those posters and sayin “Obama’s cool” because their parents told them too. That’s not cool, it’s wrong, it’s using your kids to push your own agenda. I supported Obama but I do not support parents using their kids as propaganda tools.

        • Mayken says:

          No, the awesomeness was in the one kid sharing with the other kid and the fact it brought their fathers together as well. That’s cool.
          And so what if the kids are waving the posters because their parents told them to? Last time I checked we’re allowed to teach our children our values and religious beliefs and political ideas. They’ll hopefully learn critical thinking skills as they get older and make their own choices, but at this young age, they believe like their parents. Big friggin’ deal.

        • Cookies28 says:

          OH MY GOD
          Take that stick outta your arse. It’s making you unable to see things as they simply are.

        • mellenmack says:

          Responsible parents (obviously not you, cause you probably did just give your kid a sign to wave) teach their kids about politics and candidates. We talk to them about why we are voting for a particular person. SOME of us even have kids who disagree with us and WE LET THEM KEEP LIVING IN OUR HOME. We encourage them to question everything. Try again!

          • machete says:

            Because 5 year old totally knows how a democratic system works. Look mommy! Why is the executive branch taking so much power from the legislative and judicial branches? Apparently they also know which candidate to go for as well, right? If your kids question everything, doesn’t that get annoying after some time? If they start questioning the way you raised them up, won’t that put you in possible rebellion on their part? Soon they’ll start questioning if the sky is actually blue.

            • Mike says:

              You are totally straying from the point and making none of your own. Epic fail.

              • machete says:

                My point was that this person is arguing that their children question EVERYTHING as if it’s the correct way to raise a child. No, I am not a parent because I choose not to be at this point in my life. How am I straying away from the point? Children know what candidate to vote for, correct?

                • snuzzle says:

                  Because it is the right way. It teaches children to think for themselves and not just blindly trust. It teaches and encourages them to become their own person. And that’s a good thing. No, it doesn’t lead to your kids rebelling against everything you say, because hopefully your kids RESPECT YOU. You know, that’s something else you teach your kids, right? So what if they question if the sky is blue? What if Newton never questioned why the apple fell on his head? And if kids constantly questioning you is annoying, then it’s a good thing you aren’t a parent, because that’s what kids do. It’s how they find out how their world works. Instead of just giving them an answer, help them find their own.

                  • Mandy says:

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKNAZbn9p0&feature=related

                    Those kids are very informed. Maybe it’s from their parents, maybe it’s their own thing. Either way, I’m impressed and don’t think kids shouldn’t be taken seriously just because they’re kids. Some of the most creative people I’ve met aren’t kids. There’s nothing wrong with them having opinions, no matter where they come from.

                    • Pian0man says:

                      THANK YOU! Man it was getting annoying to see all this crap about kids. We do question things; it’s natural, but within reason. I’ve always asked why my parents were democratic, and if they didn’t give a good answer, I’d look at the other candidates and see if they were any better. I never argued with my parents, so they let me form my own opinion. These days, we aren’t the sort of programmed kids we used to be, so we are usually much different from our parents, and also have very different opinions.

                • Pian0man says:

                  Please! Never become a parent! If by some warped and convoluted way you do end up having kids, god I feel sorry for them.
                  By that age, I was definitely supporting my own candidate. (Usually, it was also the one my parents were supporting, but that was just because I was looking at ethics for the main part.)
                  And “If they start questioning the way you raised them up, won’t that put you in possible rebellion on their part?” EPIC FAIL! ALL kids question why they were raised up, and most parents admit to their kids that they could have done a better job. And kids usually do not go into hostile rebellion mode; at most there’s an argument.
                  Also, yes, it can get annoying to be asked about everything, but it will make a kid more intelligent and educated in the long run. (admitted, the ‘Why’ stage can be a bit exasperating, but that’s not legitimate questions, that asking for attention.)
                  Oh, and for defining terms, the sky is only blue about 30 percent of the time. Most of the day, it’s only grey or black (because of clouds, twilight, and night, duh) and to most animals, it appears grey. Plus, think of the other planets in the solor system. You didn’t specify that it was only our sky, so what about the moon? (Sorry that was probably annoying; to us mortals, the sky is blue after all).
                  But back to my point (wow, I was almost straying as much as you were) Kids do have their own opinions, and it’s best for them to ask questions. Given how screwed up the world is right now, don’t you think it’s time for change?

                  (you’ve just been pwned by an eigth grader. Ooh what now?? lol jking)

            • FaileV says:

              hell five year olds don’t know shit about calculus, better not bother trying to teach them how to add, that would be silly. They can’t get through my lawbooks either, better not let them near dr. seuss.
              ~
              Apparently you arn’t the asking questions sort, because if you were you’d realize there is absolutely no harm in asking questions and trying to get new information, it makes you an intelligent well rounded individual. Maybe they will ask if the sky is blue, and then they’ll come to find that it’s only blue when you see the light refracting at a certain angle and when it’s even that angle causes the reds and pinks in the sky :O learning
              ~
              Everyone has a bit of rebellion, again not a bad thing, it means they are thinking for themselves. God i hope you arn’t a parent.

              • machete says:

                what the hell are you talking about? Your whole argument is one run on sentence.

                • snuzzle says:

                  You must be joking. He/she makes a coherent, intelligent rebuttal to your comment, and you can only flame him/her? Wow.

                • drako says:

                  “what the the hell are you talking about?”

                  Can you read? Do you actually know the definition of a run on sentence?
                  Please, leave the arguments for the educated and well informed.

            • Stephen says:

              The sky isn’t blue. It just appears that way during the daytime.
              (It’s black at night! Orange and red and purple during sunsets/sunrise!)

              I’ve often questioned why myself.

            • Kaliska says:

              Technically, the sky isn’t blue. It is every color BUT blue. Blue is the color that refracts back instead of being absorbed. :P

          • ell says:

            I said I don’t think parents should use their kids to forward their own agendas by making them support candidates they support and your reply is I probably give my kids posters to wave around. I’m sorry but that makes no sense. Responsible parents… with kids that age would teach their kids people need to vote to stand up for their own rights and what they believe is right they shouldn’t be used as camera fodder at political rallies. I was raised by parents who voted but are not overly political they encouraged me to think, to use my own mind and to think about the candidates, their strengths and weaknesses and decide who is best for me and the world how I see it. Now I make My Own decisions NOT my parents decisions and vote for who I think will be the best candidate. It is wrong to brainwash your children to believe everything you believe. Children are people. Intelligent ones and they should be allowed to make their own opinions and not have those of their parents forced upon them.

            I am not a troll. I come here regularly. I read the comments and look at all the lols. I don’t post very often but it does not mean my opinion does not count.

            • Tria says:

              And how do you know that the parents didn’t teach them about both candidates and that the kids didn’t choose the one they liked? If they’re as intelligent as you say they are, they could have easily made that decision. I find it silly that you assume that the parents have forced this on them. I say that we don’t make assumptions and focus on the really amazing act: sharing and bringing two families together.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              you mean like Sarah Palin’s daughter and now fiancée being paraded for the masses?

            • Dan says:

              all this brainwashing you speak of? it’s called parenting. what kind of asshole parents don’t try to pass something along to their kids?

            • Miyuroki says:

              Everyone has the right to their opinion, but if you make assumptions about others aren’t you just as bad as the other people? What if the two children were sharing popcorn? The message was about an innocent moment between children that brought the adults together. Somehow it has been turned into brainwashing children! Do you know these people? Have you been to their homes to watch them raise their kids? We can all learn from children when we pay attention. It’s just a photo that was meant to be nice. Sometimes it is possible to read too far into something. They are not posing for the cameras. It was a moment caught on film. I think everyone in this thread should take a deep breath and relax.

          • JadedLilth says:

            So…if you’re a responsible parent, you teach your children about politics but turn around and say it’s evil to let them express themselves or…heaven forbid, let them be a part of something that’s important in their parents lives?

            Can we say…out of touch with reality, anyone?

          • Christina says:

            how do you know these parents didn’t talk to their kids about politics anyways?

        • chez says:

          Well, there’s our mandatory troll for the thread. And people say quotas are obsolete.

        • ck says:

          OMG I know, how dare those parents get their kids involved in and excited about politics! We need more apathetic citizens!

          • rhorho says:

            Yes, let’s go to the historic, once-in-a-lifetime victory rally. Better get a sitter for the kids, tho. God forbid we have any influence on their opinions, or give them any childhood memories. They need to pick up their politics on the streets, just like their sex ed.

        • Eric the Barbaric says:

          Obvious troll is obvious

          • rhorho says:

            Obvious FTW YAY!!

          • ell says:

            Why? Because I don’t agree with everyone. Quick stone me now.

            • Cookies28 says:

              NO, nutbag, it’s because you have managed to take a simple picture
              of two kids sharing a moment and blown it up into some political
              diatribe about how you were raised and blah blah blah blah……

              Remove the stick, please.

              • ell says:

                Wrong.

                I didn’t make it political the caption did. “Making your parents proud your doing it right”

                Kids don’t see black and white kids see another kid to play and fight with. The caption made it political and I voiced my opinion. At least I have an opinion which I can voice instead of a repeated mantra about a stick.

                • Maxwell Silverhammer says:

                  Nowhere in that caption do I see a single political statement. As far as
                  I can tell, its a statement about parenting. What DOES make it political
                  is the fact that they’re at the Obama victory rally. The picture clearly shows
                  two fathers being proud their boys came together to share… share
                  a poster yes, but sharing none the less. This caption could be used (as someone stated earlier) with two boys sharing a bag of popcorn. Its the picture
                  that is political, not the caption.

            • Seth says:

              No, because you are making blatant assumptions and trying to turn this into something it’s not. You assume that these pictures were staged, by the parents, to make a political point. What disgusting cynicism. You assume that any parent that takes their kids to a political rally is trying to ‘use’ their kid to make some kind of a ’statement.’ But what statement are they trying to make, and why is that wrong?

              Look, maybe they just brought their kids to a rally because, oh I don’t know, sitters are expensive and a rally is something the family can do together whether the kids know what’s going on or not? Your motivations are obvious. You are conservative, and a picture of kids getting along at an Obama rally is too positive for you, you have to tear it down, so you make up some idiotic ‘concern’ about the children being forced to do something against their will by their overbearing liberal parents. Your mind is sick, troll, you need a psychologist.

              • eddiepscetti says:

                *Hands Seth a stone*
                -
                They asked for it, and that was an excellent verbal stoning!

                • Seth says:

                  Yer back! Yay! People are funny. They want to have their opinions but they don’t want anyone else to have opinions about their opinions, unless those opinions are positive. Because, evidently, having negative opinions about other people’s opinions is censorship. So we need to stop expressing our opinions about other people’s opinions. Yes, the cure for imaginary censorship is… real censorship.

              • ell says:

                What part of “I support Obama” don’t you understand. I voted for him and I’d do it 10 times over.

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  I think it was right around the part where we don’t care who you supported because you’re still a jerk.

                  • ell says:

                    You don’t actually read your own posts do you. I don’t think kids should support a candidate just because their parents support it.

                    I don’t think this photo makes a particular statement about black and white cause kids don’t see black and white unless they have been brainwashed to by their parents they just see another kid to play and fight with.

                    • crud says:

                      you do realize that children can’t vote, don’t you? while i’m at it, what makes the pictures so awesome is two kids NOT being taught to hate each other. i’m from a white southern family, Lester Maddox gave a toast at my grandmothers’ birthday party. study the civil rights movement for a minute and you will know what this picture means for all of us.

                • eddiepscetti says:

                  I supported McCain and I still think you’re a tool.. everyone else here that supported Obama, I say “Well done!” To you I say, “Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberry.”

              • Pian0man says:

                Dude! that was awesome! I agree, the family probably thought that, hey, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and there isn’t time to get a sitter, so lets all go! The kid’s will appreciate it later on probably!
                And then there just happened to be a camera there.

        • Ham says:

          My parents taught me political conservatism. I praised Republican candidates and made fun of Democratic ones.

          I’m a liberal today. I learned my parents’ political values but I wasn’t forced to keep them. So give it up.

          Now, I think it’s cool because of the kids sharing and reaching out to each other in a way that brought their fathers together. And because it was two fathers. And because the kids got to experience a big political event, regardless of party. And because the kids in the pictures are epitomizing the actual spirit of what Obama was speaking about–even if Obama’s just a politician and to him they’re just words, these kids are actually embodying the words.

          So yeah, a lot of coolness all the way around. Only someone obsessed with trying to play identity politics won’t be able to see it, I think.

          • Mayken says:

            You rocks, Ham. You articulated much better than I did the true level of awesomeness in this pic.
            Cheers!

          • Trainwreck Chaser says:

            I agree, I think this was a great thing to happen, but I’m sure this has happened in many moments that have been missed. This increases the value of the picture that the moment was captured. What people either look into or lose sight of the fact that the kids found unity in this event, not barack obama. This confuses people on both sides, but apparently not you Ham. Hats off to you.

            • rhorho says:

              What I love about the photo series is my fantasy that the white kid looked over at the black kid and said, “Hey, there’s another kid, up on shoulders like me!” Kids can see commonalities a lot more quickly than we jaded adults can.

              • Baca says:

                My Mom took me to a political rally when I was 9 and I shook hands with Trudeau
                who was shortly thereafter elected to Prime Minister of Canada. Of course I didn’t understand the political and social implications of the time. But I asked questions and learned and become involved in the political process as an adult. Partly because I had experienced the feelings of hope and excitement that are represented in this photo.

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Ham, you unmitigated turd! I wish I’d written that!

        • Dan says:

          this is, quite frankly, the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard. we’re supposed to just let our kids just sit and not try and pass anything along to them? seriously? it’s called, um…parenting.

        • crimsonpen says:

          I agree with ell on the point of not using kids to push your own agenda. Of course this picture was released with the obivous purpose of pushing the drama and eliciting support from people. Intentionally or unintentionally the kids became tools in the political arena.

        • moop says:

          no it’s touching because its one child sharing with another child, an innocent compromise perhaps. so that both children can have fun at an event that their parents brought them to…

        • Terry C - Yes We Did! says:

          Your concern is noted.

        • garioch says:

          At that age the kids are saying “Obama’s cool” because their parents tell them to?
          What sort of a nut job are you? The kids are saying “Cool I get to stay up late and I have this bright thing to wave and there’s stuff going on and there’s another kid wants my sign we can share I’m going to ask for a hotdog on the way home it’s good being on dad’s shoulders” you loon.
          You seriously think the kid is sitting there being indoctrinated into the Democratic party? If so I expect to see you protesting outside a sunday school or church soon.

        • Kara says:

          Do you really think that kids shouldn’t be taken to rallies? Should they also not be allowed to watch debates on TV? Should their parents never mention politics to them?

          I disagree. Being informed starts when your young. There’s no reason parents can’t bring their kids to rallies and also encourage them to think for themselves. My views are somewhat different from my Mother’s, but when I was little she took me to rallies all the time, and I had a blast. Besides, on you parent’s shoulders is the best seat in the house!

        • Jim says:

          I waved signs and supported the candidates my parents did, when I was growing up…. Then I started to form my own opinions and now my parents are appalled at my political views… but they are proud that I think for myself… I love this series of pics.

        • Pian0man says:

          WTF Man? So essentially you’re saying that because I’m a teen, I don’t have my own opinions? (And don’t get into the legal stuff plz.) I mean, yes, a 6 yr old probably doesn’t understand the entire democratic system, but I certainly knew who I’d support when I was that old. And do you think that I attended community projects and rallys and protests because my parents made me? Seriously dude!
          And you don’t seem to get the symbolism either. Obviously, the parents weren’t ‘making’ them share, it was just that they decided too, regardless of whether they were black or white. (Yes, the peace sign thing was probably fixed, but other than that..) Sorry, rant over.

        • Waldo says:

          I’m pretty sure the parents didnt force them to hold the sign up… children are just very impressionable and most children go for the candidate their parent’s are supporting, its not the dads forcing the children to hold up that sign its the children making a decision based on what their parents think.
          and btw we all think that children should make their own political choices and shit but the only way to effectively do that is to isolate them from all other humans with political opinions untill they are about 14 or so and then give them 2 nonbiased explanations as to what each political party or candidate stands for

    • Dianne says:

      Most excellent WIN!! That is an award winning quality series of photos!

    • Daina says:

      I was totally there when they took that picture! If I wasn’t so short I could probably see me!!!!!

    • martcliver says:

      at first i thought they were pointing gun-fingers at each other. haha.

  2. Sir VG says:

    Great pictures. :)

  3. grmblfjx says:

    Except, the white boy is giving the UK the finger. o.O

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Churchill did that a few times

      • Sylderon says:

        The palm out is the ‘V-for-Victory’, palm in is ‘up yours’ or something like that.

        • rhorho says:

          That’s a neat British gesture, from archery times. Really cool!

          • LOLDemon says:

            rhorho speaks truly. I learned about it on a trip to the UK. It comes from one of the wars between the British and the French. (My knowledge of history and my memory are not quite good enough that I can tell you exactly what war.) Anyway, the French feared the skilled British archers, so many captured Britts got the pointer and middle fingers of their right hands cut off to prevent them from drawing their bowstrings in the future. So as a bit of visual smack talk when facing the French, the Britts would hold up their two fingers to say “I’ve still got these and I’m gonna use ‘em to shot you full of arrows.”

            That’s how I heard it, anyway.

            • Pandabum says:

              Archers weren’t worth crap for ransom, hence they weren’t captured, just mauled on the battlefield. But don’t believe me – I’m just a history major. But Snopes says you’re wrong, too.

              • jules says:

                He did mention that “that’s how he heard it, anyway”. Give the guy a break.

              • Pian0man says:

                No, remember, the Brits invented the longbow, so the French were getting really annoyed that they were being shot with something as powerful as their own crossbows, but that could reload almost instantly. At least thats what the gesture means now. But don’t believe me – I’m a high schooler :P

            • DSH says:

              Yeah, that’s an old wives tale, but it’s a good story.

              • rhorho says:

                I put my last comment in the wrong place, but I checked out Snopes, and it does claim the story is wrong. Does anyone know the true origin?

                • donkeytalker says:

                  Sounds like a job for… Uncle Festaaaa… far as I know the story’s actually right and Snopes is off. Happens!

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    TBH no one REALLY knows.

                    Maybe it was the French who caused it. We tend to blame them for most things. (when Scots refer to the ‘Auld enemy’ your average Englishman looks for a French or German in room before realising they’re referring to him)

                    Personally, I favour it being a Crusades thing, since it emphatic nature is more in keeping with Levantine gestures of the time, and became reimported with the soldiery coming home… I think it’s probably just lost in the mists of time.

            • AC says:

              The French and the ENGLISH.
              Agincourt was a long, long time before the union.

          • Narodnik says:

            That’s actually a myth about the “Archery Times”
            http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.asp

          • rhorho says:

            Wow–Snopes should send Wikipedia a memo, yes?

          • A Brit says:

            Hello chaps! Brit here! The V-sign is a great British invention and it’s so nice to see it exported across the pond. To clarify – Sylderon is correct. Palm facing your viewer is V for victory. Fingers only facing your viewer is a tad more rude.

            The history – the story goes that it became popular during the Battle of Agincourt (Brits v French but we’re over that now). French soldiers would capture the archers but instead of dispatching them, they would chop off their first two fingers and send them back across. Of course, without fingers an archer could not pull back the bow and was useless in battle. The V-sign was a sign to the enemy that that the archer still had their fingers – so watch out! How true is this story? Well, no one really knows so a pinch of salt may be required when considering this to be gospel.

            Cheerio!

        • Dianne says:

          Oh for crying out loud…they are six year old children, like they would know the difference? Get over your little selves, that is an awesome and inspiring photo story.

    • buttascotch says:

      good thing were in america.. obviously,
      being an american election
      for the american president……………………………… not uk
      ;]
      p.s. aaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwz!

    • snuzzle says:

      Nah, he’s just flashing the peace sign at the other boy; they’re making the hand gesture to each other and not the camera. Cute :D

  4. Scary says:

    I can name a few parents that would disown their kids for doing that.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Ah, but they’re not filthy liberals who voted Democrat, are they?

    • Ceefax says:

      Republican version – Kid on dad’s shoulder’s drinking a can of bud. Throws can at other kid. Kids start fighting. Dads start fighting.

      • MomKat says:

        As a teacher, I can tell you that the above version with the can of Bud is more likely to happen with the children of my Democrat parents. The Republican parents aren’t at a rally – they have a JOB to go to tomorrow!

        • rhorho says:

          Yeah, MomKat’s right. Democrats don’t have jobs. For example, I have a job, so…wait. MomKat’s full of corn and beans!

          • ema says:

            Well rhorho, why isn’t Ceefax also full of corn and beans? She can say anything nasty she wants about Republicans but if someone says something equal about Democrats everyone gets bent?

            • rhorho says:

              I’ll leave Ceefax alone, because I don’t know. Today’s exchange with T the troll was strange, and they both stepped over the line, egging each other on. Is that why you have that opinion about Ceefax? For the record, I didn’t say MomKat is the *only* person full of corn and beans. There’s enough corn, beans and PIE ;) to go around, if needed.
              .
              The thing that jerked my chain about MomKat is that she started off with “As a teacher, I can tell you,” then related her limited experience. The holes in her argument are wide enough, but that’s not what got to me. She likely has jumped to conclusions, i.e. white=employed=Republican and non-white=unemployed=Democrat. It’s not likely that she asked all of her students’ parents for their political party affiliations, so she’s probably going on her assumption of income and/or race. Her verbage sounds like bigot “code.” It certainly draws ignorant lines, at the least.

              • herb says:

                (I believe the neologism is “dog-whistle politics”)

              • MomKat says:

                I was merely trying to give background to my experience. How do you know what race or political affiliation I am? As for my asking parents for political affiliations, I don’t have to. I’ve been told, and been looking at Obama stickers and T-shirts for months. And no, most of them aren’t employed. You all are making many more assumptions than I ever have.

            • pdq says:

              Dunno, em. Seems like most folk who wander in and make sweeping generalizations get slapped.
              But I’m geralizing, of course… ;)

            • Uncle Fester says:

              The ‘Fariness doctrine’ monitor has spoken…

            • Pian0man says:

              dude. you did not want to go there.
              OK, imagine this:

              What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard
              Law Review?

              What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of
              his graduating
              class?

              What if McCain had only married once and Obama was a
              divorcee?
              What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a
              long affair while
              he was still married?

              What if McCain were still married to the first woman he
              said ‘I do’ to?
              What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife
              after she no
              longer measured up to his standards?

              What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became
              addicted to pain
              killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable
              organization?
              What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

              What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
              (Five US senators accused of corruption in 1989 igniting a major political scandal as
              part of the savings and loan scandal in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s)

              What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
              What if McCain were a charismatic,eloquent speaker?

              What if Obama was the one who had military experience
              that included
              discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
              What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly
              display a serious
              anger management problem?
              What if Michele Obama’s family had made their money
              from beer
              distribution?

              What if things were switched around?
              Would the country’s collective point of view be
              different?

              What if the Obama had paraded five children across the
              stage following the
              debate including a 3 month old infant and an unwed, pregnant
              teenage
              daughter?

          • ck says:

            MomKat also apparently can’t understand the concept of going to a rally AND going to work the next day. MINDBLOWING.

            • rhorho says:

              LOL–MomKat apparently can’t understand MANY concepts! I wish I could say I don’t hear crap just like hers around here! For all I know, she’s my next door neighbor–YIKES!!

              • Meh... says:

                Better hope she’s not your kid’s teacher…

                • rhorho says:

                  Worse–She teaches ESL! (English as a Second Language)

                  • Jane St.Clair says:

                    We don’t call it that anymore. We call it ENL (English as a New Language) and we refer to the students in the program as ELL’s (English Language Learners). This is because of the supposedly unfair assumption that students learning English only know their native tongue. They may be a language genius with the ability to speak 14 languages, however, English is not one of them. I’m up with the buzz words because I am also a teacher, although I usually don’t feel the need to preface my statements with that fact to lend legitimacy to them.

                    • Maxwell Silverhammer says:

                      Im sure if someone REALLY wanted to disagree with you they could
                      always choose the PK tried and true method of “ignoring stated facts”
                      or “declare them partisan biased.”

        • Kalistongue says:

          MomKat–As a Democrat, I am sick and tired of the insinuation that I don’t work. I have worked full time since the age of seventeen, put myself through school, and bought my first home at twenty-four. The only debt I have is my mortgage, and the only public money I have collected was two weeks of unemployment……..oooohhhh, guess that makes me a lazy socialist!

          Now, how about you? Why are you a teacher? That’s just a low paying job for losers, isn’t it? Glorified babysitting. If you were smart, you would work in the private sector. Why didn’t you get a business degree?

          Now, this isn’t my true opinion, I have the upmost respect for teachers (except close-minded ones like you). But how does it make you feel to be on the receiving end of such stupid crap?

          • rhorho says:

            Kalistongue, I agree with you except on one point. You paid into the unemployment insurance system, so you weren’t on public money for those two dinky weeks.

          • Luis says:

            I agree with you that people shouldn’t automatically assume Democrats don’t have jobs. But it also would be nice if you guys didn’t automatically assume all Republicans are trigger happy, fight at all times sort of people. Both Ceefax and Momkat crossed the line, but somehow only Momkat got scolded…not cool.

            • Mike says:

              I’m with you luis. People who play “make fun of the other guy” when it comes to politics aren’t much better than people who tell racist jokes or dumb blond jokes etc.

              Sounds a little off at first, but I mean mainly in the fact that “lets make fun of stuff that isn’t like us” which just leads to ignorance. I am a democrat, true and blue and I think both extreme sides (o’reily etc.) are just plain ignorant. It’s not the people who are rock solid democrat, or rock solid republican that decide elections. It’s swing voters and independents. All you people who throw stones do is make those people steer away from makind educated decisions in politics because they tire of the bickering. Shame shame.

          • MomKat says:

            I never said anyone was lazy. As for your questions – I did work in the private sector for a long time – as a CPA with an MBA. I have no debt – paid off my house and my cars, have enough in savings for my and my childrens’ futuress, and have never taken public money. I went back to school, got an MEd, and I am a teacher because I wanted to make a difference in the world – that’s why I took a “low paying job for losers. Glorified babysitting.” I work in an inner city school trying to help kids every day. Please don’t make assumptions about who and what I am. My comment was simply a reaction to the assumption that Republicans are drunks and abusers. I see enough of it every day to make me sick, and enough bias and hate from both sides to make me doubt the future of this nation. I apologize for offending anyone. As for how I feel to be on the recieving end of all of this, it merely makes me sad that people can hate so much because of ideas. It explains the mess that we’re all in.

            • Will says:

              You say you’re sick of bias and hate and yet you add to the bias and hate here. Hypocrite.

              • MomKat says:

                I fail to see how anything I have said could possibly be more hateful than the bile and venom I see being spewed here on a daily basis. If you think that I am a hypocrite, so be it. As I said, all of this makes me sad, because of what it is causing in our country on both sides of the political spectrum.

                • rhorho says:

                  Re-Read your first comment! You make it sound as though you just toddled in here, said something totally innocent, then got pummeled! Srsly, Miss Bo Peep you ain’t! Unfortunately for you, a lot of people in here are smarter than your students, and are able to defend themselves by pointing out your bad assumptions.

                  • MomKat says:

                    I think a lot of assumptions are being made on both sides.

                    • Jeez says:

                      not to liek be an ass or anything but…you said democrats don’t have a job…maybe that’s why they voted for oba, they wanted one! nd maybe they lost theirs with bush, you can never know :P so people should stop assuming things, we’re all right and we’re all wrong just get over it srsly :P

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  Other people did it, that makes it okay for me too, right? What would you honestly do if your students tried to pull that one on you? I’m sorry, but two wrongs don’t make a right. If you respond to hatred and bigotry with more hatred and bigotry you don’t suddenly get happiness and fairness for all, you just get more hatred and bigotry. You flew off the handle and made assumptions that were insulting and unfair and now you’re trying to excuse yourself and backtrack. Just admit that you were wrong already and move on.

          • Kara says:

            I agree; I’m in the same boat. I’ll never forget the time, way back in 2004, when Bush flew into my town and there were essentially two rallies going on at the airport–one for him, and one against. I was on the “against” side, and I can’t count how many time the “for” people yelled, “Get a job!” It didn’t make any sense, not only because I have a job and so did everyone else I knew there, but also because if only people without jobs were at the rally, then how come they were there?

        • Char says:

          What does it say about our education system when our children are being taught (at the government’s dime! ON NO SOCIALISM!) by nitwits so deluded that they think Republicans don’t attend rallies.

          I guess those thousands upon thousands of people at McCain’s rallies were all just self-hating Democrats. (Which would explain the booing)

        • Jane St.Clair says:

          As a teacher, I can tell you that you should be ashamed of yourself for stereotyping your kids and the families they come from. No Child Left Behind as long as they agree with my politics? Get off your high horse lady.

        • Pian0man says:

          Democrates drink wine and vodka martinis. Republicans drink cheap beer. (lol jking, no offense) But i think that it wasn’t really aimed at republicans, thats kind of like what goes on at a redneck sports tornament or something, not respectable political rallies. And who says that democrats don’t have jobs? Granted, they don’t earn as much, but they’re less willing to lie and cheat (think of the oil companies)

      • Trainwreck Chaser says:

        Yep

        Wait no that’s just dumb.

    • Tessie says:

      For what? Holding up a sign, sharing, or flipping the U.K. bird?

  5. JadedLilth says:

    This is too adorable (nevermind symbolic) for words. :D

  6. Anya says:

    AWWWWWWWW.

  7. Blackup says:

    That is frickin’ awesome.

    Once again proving that children are some of the kindest souls on earth (Until you tell them to go to bed without a snack. Damn.)

  8. SKW says:

    Epic. Win.

  9. sukiyaki says:

    F*ck those kids.

  10. crxmanpat says:

    Now if only the rest of the country would take a lesson from these kids and their parents.

  11. Mel says:

    Well played future generations, well played.

  12. Phaelin says:

    Kid on the left looks like me when I was a little’un. =o

  13. RoQ says:

    Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

    plz post something funny

    kthxbye

  14. Johnathan says:

    Leave the voting age at age 18, only make it under 18. Less bigotry that way. And I see funny campaign ads “I, Ralph Nader, promise to lower taxes on candy factories…” Never mind, scratch that idea

  15. Muuu13 says:

    Adorable. You go little munchkins.

  16. Kara says:

    That’s so sweet. I used to hang out on my Dad’s shoulders at political rallies when I was a kid, but I was never that photogenic. ;-)

  17. boaks says:

    I think my heart just melted

  18. badgerigar says:

    Wait a minute: the guy the black kid was sitting on changed colour between the first and last pic. HES A VELOCIRAPTOR RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

  19. Jane St.Clair says:

    *sniffle* This is so adorable. Too bad my high schoolers aren’t so cute.

  20. fxquant says:

    Bullshit@!

  21. fxquant says:

    Totally staged phony nonsense, get a gripe folks, all is not sweetness and light out there.

    Perhaps when the perma-haters in the (D) column lighten up just a teense, the (R) haters will do the same.

    Chan ces of (D)’s ever lightening up? NIL!

    • markmier says:

      That’s the spirit!

      No We Can’t! No We Can’t!

    • Pat in Washington state says:

      What if it is staged? It’s still heart-warming. And why would we want to get a “gripe”? I have a gripe about trolly perma-haters of any ilk. Lighten up fxquant, or get a grip, whatever.

      • heartwarming? says:

        No, not really. It could have been if had just been about kids sharing, but then people had to bring race into it. It suddenly ‘means something’ since a white kid shared with a black kid? Pointing it out like that is racist. If no one mentioned it then the next generations would grow up not even knowing about racism. But since people insist on pointing it out every time someone does something non-racist as if it was extraordinary, kids notice and it makes them wonder what the big deal was. Then they ask questions and people explain things like “white people used to never share with black people because they were slaves”, leading the children to think something like 1) my people were slaves, white people do kinda suck for that, or 2) my people used to own black people as property, why’s that not ok now? Obviously this is a tad oversimplified, but seriously folks – racism is one of the only problems that gets better if you *don’t* go pointing things out all the time. It’s like finding some random wounded person, poking them with a stick and wondering why they hurt and don’t like you much. Let kids be kids and stop teaching them hate while trying to teach acceptance.

        • Tee says:

          … WOW. This is so inane, I can’t even think of a retort.

        • stepnerd says:

          So, the only way to learn from history is to totally ignore it?

          • Tee says:

            Precisely. THAT is where the resentment and hatred spawns.

          • sigh says:

            No, moron. History and racism are two different things. History is a study of events of the past, with the more distasteful subjects generally studied by older, more mature minds. Racism on the other hand is not a logical subject driven by facts, but rather an emotional issue often taught at a young age to minds that are not prepared to make all their own decisions. To put it simply, it’s fine to learn about events in the past, such as slavery, but it’s not good to impress thought processes, like racism, on the minds of children. They don’t just come up with it on their own you know.
            -
            A side example that may help illustrate: Black History Month. Intended to showcase that black people have had just as much of an effect on history as everyone else. What does it actually accomplish though? Kids of any other race find themselves wondering why black people are special enough to get their own month and why they don’t. It puts an unneccesary wedge in place. Instead, just teach History. When you’re on a subject such as WWII, that’s the time to mention the Tuskegee Airman, not arbitrarily in February. It’s like segregation of History. If they’d just teach things when the subject happens to be on the lesson plan normally, you don’t miss any important details, but no unneeded stressors interfere with the message. By saying “Black History Month” you imply there is some difference there that should be taken note of. And that’s not what people need to focus on.

            • Tee says:

              Okay, I actually agree with this statement (and this is coming from a biracial individual)… but that has nothing to do with the meaning of this picture. In a country where we still have division of races, this picture is endearing to the fact that innocent children can share a view without the understandings of their race. and at the end of the day, when they grow up, they will still understand that they are indeed different, but the same. Each should be proud of who they are, yet too proud to think they’re better than the other. This picture symbolizes that very thing.

            • stepnerd says:

              Well, that solves everything, then.
              So long as I don’t talk to my kids about the history of racism and it’s effects on today’s society, they won’t have any questions about the KKK, neo-nazism (cue DWN’s wang), skinheads, disproportionate representation in gaols (jails for you Americans), racially based assaults and murders, incidences of racism that they witness in their every day lives, etc.
              Wow, that’s so easy!!! Just ignore it and it goes away!!!
              Thanks, Sigh. I thought it was more complicated up to now. I was making parenting so much harder than it needs to be.

              • sigh says:

                Not at all what I said, but thanks for intentionally misinterpreting it. :P

                • rhorho says:

                  Hey, you said at 8:15 you were done. Put your sock down and STAY done, already.

                  • My wang finds this entire thread silly. We learn the past so as not to repeat it. We can teach kids that yes there are differences and in a different age, we were ignorant enough to let those difference divide us. My wang simply states that we should learn the past to understand the why of our present and the how of our future.

                    Learn your history so you know why it is important that we are together now. Lest my wang find you in contempt and I promise you, he is intimidating in an old British Judge Wig!!!

            • jules says:

              Starting a post with “moron” pretty much invalidates anything you have to say.

              • rhorho says:

                Good point! Sounds like grown-ups speaking on Charlie Brown tv shows.
                .
                Example: Jules, you moron! WONK-WONK-WONK..WONK-WONK!
                .
                Wow, it works! Tho I typed it myself, I can’t read it now!

          • Mac says:

            in some cases yes

        • Mayken says:

          Ignoring racism and pretending it doesn’t exist will not make it go away.
          Nor is does pointing out things that are good and right promoting racism.
          I got called the n-word for the very first time in freakin’ Kindergarten. Thank gods my parents had actually talked to me and my brothers about how to handle people who say racist things to us. Even still I came home in tears and I remember to this day just how horrible that felt. Please tell me exactly how ignoring racism would have stopped the 5 year old who called me that word. Are you seriously saying that this kid learned the n-word because his parents kept pointing out all the non-racist shit going on around them?
          And for frak’s sake, it is a white kid and a black kid sharing a poster at a rally for the first African American president-elect. Seriously, people aren’t supposed to point out the frakin’ obvious? I think the coolness in the pictures is in the sharing and the bringing together of two kids and their fathers. But, it is impossible not to notice that they happen to be of different races. And isn’t that kinda all symbolic and crap on top of what is otherwise an ordinary act of kindness?

    • ginganinja says:

      I think you mean “get a grip” not “get a gripe”.

    • Ham says:

      Yeah, we should get a gripe. You’re a good example for us all.

      I love the “we’re only haters because you started it first!” playground logic you try to use. Predicating the end of your jerkish behavior on never perceiving yourself to be slighted in anyway is a feeble attempt at excusing for your nasty demeanor, but it doesn’t hold water.

      Reminds me of the Onion vox populi quote: “If black people keep acting like animals every time we treat them like animals, racists like me will never respect them.”

    • Ham says:

      Additionally, the politics of hate you’re referring to got a good start in the 60s when every liberal was a “commie” and really caught steam in the 80s when the new Conservatives managed the identity politics coup of getting even the word “liberal” to sound evil and malignant.

      Moral high ground–not yours.

    • Uncle Fester says:

      Well, you’re no lightening up any, you hypocrite…

    • Kara says:

      Get a gripe? Looks like you beat us to it. Go back to your trash can, Oscar. ;-)

  22. NinjaPacman says:

    SUCH ADORABLE LITTLE CHILDREN.
    Right after they steal money out of your wallet and use it to buy $20 of candy.
    Then they are not so cute anymore.

    Also I agree with fxquant. This was definitely staged.
    Because in real life, somebody would have dropped the sign and then they’d be fighting over whose fault it was.
    And I would laugh hysterically.

  23. K2M says:

    Though not an Obama supporter, this picture(s) is pretty darn cute.

  24. Linkinbassist says:

    Pictures like these are why i still have hope for humanity. We can learn a lot from innocence…

    • ethana2 says:

      Little does he know his brother was killed in a partial birth abortion.
      That kind of innocence?

      • Pat in Washington state says:

        Oh look, another ass.

        Ethana2 do you do this in all the conversations you join? Try to make it all about your agenda? Your comments do not pertain to the pic nor are they an appropriate response to Linkinbassist. Go be a troll somewhere else.

      • ck says:

        Epic red herring fail.

      • phinary says:

        [Citation needed.]

      • Eric the Barbaric says:

        Pathetic troll is pathetic.

      • Ham says:

        Strawman much?

      • Rvo says:

        You know, science can tell you a lot of things these days. Maybe the parents knew that kid was going to grow up to be like you.

        And then they aborted the little sucker right quick.

        • dude...man says:

          WTF is up with that? Out trolling the troll? Yeah, never understood THAT logic.

          That’s a pretty horrible thing to say on so many levels. I can’t help but notice the hypocrisy when people are all like “Oh, this picture is so cute and symbolic and a positive thing” (which is most definitely is) but then turn around and say things like this or, as Rhoro does endorse such a horrid statement by saying “FTW!”.

          What Ethana2 said was bad, but Rvo’s response isn’t any better. I’m baffled how some of you can be all “unity, positivity, etc” in one breath and turn around and be so hateful in the next.

          Gotta love teh internets…

      • Steve says:

        I agree. It would be better to make abortion a crime. History clearly shows that making something illegal will absolutely prevent people from doing it Making a substance or practice illegal NEVER pushes it to the black market and organized crime due to the sudden increase in profitability… /sarcasm

        Abortions are currently performed by licensed medical professionals under sanitary conditions, are regulated, and are generally very low risk for the mother. I understand many people see this as murdering children.

        Black Market abortions will be performed by anyone with a scalpal in un-sanitary conditions, with no regulation, supervision, or emergency care available, and will be highly dangerous for both the mother and child. Is it better for both the mother and the child to die?

        Abortion is tragic. This I agree. Making it illegal will not prevent it from occuring, it will simply make otherwise innocent people criminals and increase the danger for both mother and child.

        • jules says:

          Yay for logic!

        • Tee says:

          I don’t know how many times I’ve tried to explain that to the self-righteous. I’m glad someone else share my logic.

        • stepnerd says:

          When continually heckled by a protester using the phrase,”What about abortion?”, Gough Whitlam (an ex Prime Minister of Australia, who was unashamedly socialist) replied,”In your case, I’m willing to make it retrospective!”

      • Steampunk Demimonde says:

        …….and where did you pull that from?

  25. momcat says:

    common! cut the negative crap. . . this is supposed to be FUN! isn’t it?

  26. Shannon says:

    OK, I saw this live at the Obama rally in Manassas, VA on 11/3. It was near impossible to get good pictures of it because of the ridiculously bright floodlight that was being shone on the crowd. I tried to get a shot of this, as I was about 50 feet away from these kids. The kids were both holding up signs at one point, then they started exchanging them. The last picture may have been slightly staged, but so what? It is still a pretty amazing moment. And for the idiots going on about the hand signals – they were peace signs. The person who caught the picture must have gotten it on an off moment or at a strange angle. I have no idea who these kids were…but, for the record, the schools were closed the next day, so what is the big deal about parents wanting to take their kids to a big rally the night before election day? I think it is a great civics lesson.
    I guess I better never show you people the pictures of my daughter on election day holding up my sign from this same rally – she asked to hold it and the moment was too cool not to capture on film. My daughter is 2.5 and she talks about Obama more than I do – she kisses his picture in the paper (and I have NEVER done this). She may not know about his politics, but she certainly was not coerced into being his fan!

  27. bigiboo says:

    I love this picture.

  28. scotth says:

    While people may say this is cute i kind of have to agree with the poster that said dont drag your kids into politics. The concept of the kids sharing is nice but i doubt those kids have any idea what the sign means. I dont think its right to involve your kids in politics unless you describe both sides of the arguement. And i hardly doubt these kids are old enough to understand abortion, the economy, the war, etc. Leave the kids at home or dont use them to push ur own beliefs.

    • machete says:

      no offense, but, how the heck do you think religious groups grow?

      • Sige says:

        Bingooooooooooo.

      • minerva146 says:

        I was going to say something along these lines earlier, but didn’t want to start a war. Indoctrinating kids into your own religion is pushing your beliefs much ore than is political philosophy. Provided you teach your kids enough critical thinking, they’ll either accept or reject any of their parents’ belief systems based on their own experience. Exposing them to the things you hold important is ok, as long as you also allow them to think for themselves.

    • Mac says:

      why does it matter? the kids can’t vote, and most likely they will go through a rebellious phase before they turn of voting age and develop there own views.

    • Ham says:

      Involving your kids in politics will keep them involved as they aged. Trying to keep them to your political views as they age, that’s dumb. Getting them involved is a GOOD thing. You can’t try to keep your keeps from something their entire youth then try to tell them it’s important for all their adult lives and expect them to ever do it at all. You teach them young to follow your lead. When they grow up, they’ll apply their own views, but be more likely to follow your lead in terms of how they comport and involve themselves. You teach them that way so they learn the pattern. Where they apply the pattern will change as they grow.

    • ell says:

      Glad I’m not the only one.

    • dude...man says:

      Why does it have to mean that these two fathers were using their kids to push their own agenda? Why does taking your kids to a political rally have to mean they’re unfortunate pawns? Why should parents leave them at home? Who are you to decide what is right for the parents to do with their kids when it comes to taking them or not taking them to a rally?

      People, this is a freaking picture (well, series of pictures anyway). Speculating and pontificating about the motivations behind it is pretty ridiculous and more than likely fueled by whatever one is predisposed to think then what is actually going on.

      For the record I agree that actually using kids to push any political agenda is deplorable but to claim that is what is going on with these pictures? I just fail to see how one can arrive at that conclusion.

      Here’s a thought (not just directed at you), stop twisting touching pictures whose context you know nothing about to suit *your* agenda.

    • Tessie says:

      Puh-leeze. NO-body in my family EVER shut up about their beliefs, opinions, everything under the sun, etc. etc. etc. for two seconds. Amazingly, they managed to impart their beliefs and values to me (since they are good, loving people overall) without turning me into a brainwashed zombie. As an (?) adult, I agree with some family members about some issues, and disagree about others, pretty much as anyone would in any random group of people. Sharing your values with your children — and it’s not as though you could completely avoid it, anyway — is not the same as using or brainwashing them.

  29. Mimi says:

    Change we’ve needed for a very long time. Nothing says it better.

  30. Mimi says:

    Hey folks – we on the left get it. You’d rather we didn’t vote at all so your bullies can further tear down the Constitution. Have you heard the latest about Bush giving local police the freedom to look at EVERYONE as a terrorist, to check us out without any kind of warrant, and to put ANYONE on the list?

    FCS, like it or not, this was witnessing history being made. Do you even know what Obama said? No mccain/palin hate/fear-mongering speeches either. The kids saw nothing traumatic like fights on the ice in hockey, brawls in baseball, and unnecessary violence in football. Nor were they witnessing the overt sexuality and violence that is readily on the TV.

    I was indoctrinated as a ‘proper’ Republican and ‘Bible-thumpin’ Christian all through my childhood and followed the family tradition for the first 15 yrs or so of my adult life. Then I travelled, married, had kids of my own and thankfully saw beyond the narrow scope of both beliefs.

    Now as Left-leaning Independent and part of the Christian Left, our agenda is to help people down in the trenches. We hate the war but love the troops, our causes reflect that sentiment and we usually don’t see ‘elitiest’ neo-cons down there willing to get their hands dirty.

    50 years ago, a photo like this could not have been taken. Yes, we can!

  31. Mimi says:

    Benjamin Franklin said this:

    “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

    Amen and Amen.
    Yes we can!

    • froofrou says:

      That can be taken a few different ways depending on your perspective :-) The same way that the same arguments were used on both sides to make different points before the election, that particular quote can be seen differently based on your world view. Personally, I think having to give up my right to the pursuit of happiness by using my hard-earned money to obtain said happiness is pretty crappy, but others view it differently. If the rumors are true and Obama wants to instate a private millitary force that consists of young men and women in state-issued uniforms (I’m aware of the mixing of descriptions here, bear with me) who are in compulsary service if they want to go to college is a giving up of essential liberty. And I see that particular idea heading in a very scary direction.
      -
      You can paste that quote directly above a Muslim person’s house and it will apply, especially one who has been unfairly hassled at the airport.
      -
      Further, you can paste that quote above every card-carrying NRA member’s house and it will still apply.
      -
      Different views, different takes on the same quote.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        So, where do the Brown shirt rumours come from?

      • rhorho says:

        froofrou, the rumors are right-wing scare tactics. Obama has said nothing of the sort, and it wouldn’t fly, even if that were his spooky-secret intent, anyway. I mean, think about it: His program of free college for community service has been blown into a compulsary militia, complete with commie uniforms? C’mon: You’re smarter than that!

        • froofrou says:

          Check out Fester’s link in the posts below. He did say it, but he has not brought it back up. Now, whether that means that he has scrapped the idea or is just keeping it under wraps remains to be seen.
          -
          I’ve said that I’ll give the man a chance to screw it up before I condemn him, and I mean it. But allow me a little nervousness about some of the things (ok, a lot of the things) he has said in the past. I’ve a right to take pause and bring up things said in the past that strike me as odd, strange, or just plain dumb, the same way that you guys on the left (with all the love in the world :-) ) bring up things about Palin, McCain, Bush, Cheney, and everyone else on the right who cause you concern.
          -
          Everyone says things they don’t mean in order to get elected. But what he said before he wanted to get elected is what makes me wonder.

          • rhorho says:

            Okay, froofrou, I see what you mean. I have already seen Unc’s link, but didn’t hear Obama say anything about goosestepping or brown uniforms. I wish you weren’t so nervous, but, in fairness, I was nervous four years ago, and I was (sadly) correct to be.
            .
            To allay (sp?) your fears a little, think about what the odds are that the lefties would get behind anything that takes on military hues. You know we’re all a bunch of naive, unwashed hippies, right? (meant for a laugh) Can you imagine a bunch of us getting up, dressed, and on jogs at 5:00 a.m.? I better stop this line of thought, or my head will asplode.
            .
            BTW, aren’t Republicans all about a strong national defense force? Is the Patriot Act not as scary in Bush’s hands than Obama’s?

            • froofrou says:

              Strong national defense, sure, but not a privately funded military that smacks of (ack!) censorship. I just have visions in my fevered little brain of sitting somewhere talking with my friends, making a careless statement about how I think that Obama could be less of an idiot, and the next thing I know I’m on my face in the dirt with my hands zip tied behind me and a knee on my neck.
              -
              Now I realize that’s way over the top, but us uptight Bible-thumping Repbs (to counter your unwashed hippies, hehe) do NOT WANT that type of privatized military control. Call me a hypocrit all you want for wanting to socialize the military, but a private force of college kids roaming around with uniforms and billy clubs just so they can go to college is a little much. They haze like crazy in college. Can you imagine some elitist twit with a billy club and powers granted by the President???????? *rumaging for duct tape to tape head so the pieces won’t be lost when it explodes*

          • Uncle Fester says:

            Under wraps? Fer god’s sake… it’s there, it’s down to the individual to make their mind up as to what it means… Reading more, I think the ‘Brown Shirts’ analogy is over stating it. Thus what’s to discuss here? … it’s not appropriate to the main picture and guessing is reading goat entrails, just without the reliability

            I’ve noticed you seem to enjoy paranoia and fear… I suggest you live it up. I’ve already said I wouldn’t put it past any politico to do that crap, but I don’t see it’s much different to the Homeland Security ‘Rat a neighbour’ scheme… Certainly no more scary.

  32. Uncle Fester says:

    found one source (linked under my name… I’ve not found my usual two additional independent sources since there’s the you tube of the original broadcast…)

    OK frou… you’re right to be concerned until it’s resolved. My question would be who their allegiance is to…

    Something being neglected, who is there to hate? The Nazis had the Jews, The Disabled, the Slavs and the Gypsies. Homeland Security had ‘Terrorists under the bed’, and tried to encourage people to rat out neighbours and family they suspected… All well and good having the Brown Shirts, but without a decent (and easily popular) hate target, it’s a bit toothless (running the Goebbels play book here, since it’s reliable) I add the ‘easily popular’ clause since the Nazi’s distaste for the disabled laid an egg such that their extermination plan had to be run under the disguise of ‘medical treatment’…

    • jules says:

      Uh oh, where’s DWN?

    • rhorho says:

      I don’t like to disagree with you, but I don’t think froofrou is right to be scared. Obama is just saying that we need a powerful national security force, and it should be as strong as a military force, but NOT military. The state-issued uniform business in the rumor really puts a McCarthian spin on the subject, so naturally my eyes are rolling.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        She understands that though :)

        • Uncle Fester says:

          and as an addendum. There isn’t an evil I wouldn’t put past anyone with the will to lead.

          • froofrou says:

            Did you take a happy pill today? Are we agreeing? :-)
            -
            I do agree with you, though. Those in power tend to get corrupted absolutely, and with the House, Senate, and White House all swinging Democrat, and most likely the next appointees to the Supreme Court appointed Dem as well, the balance has shifted in what could be a very scary way. No one needs the authority to be God, as Obama will have when all checks and balances are no longer in place because they are all firmly in his camp. You need dissent, and I’m not talking about a tiny minority in Congress who can’t do anything but stomp their feet in anger if something gets passed. Thank goodness that the fillibuster-proof majority didn’t work out.

            • Uncle Fester says:

              You mean unlike the way the Reps stacked the Supreme court? Or wasn’t that ‘corrupt’? God’s teeth… are you really so damned naive, or do you have to work at it. Dissent maybe existed in the 90s but for the past 8 years there have been fewer checks and balances than previously seen.

              And simply because a broken clock is ‘right’ twice a day doesn’t make it useful

              • froofrou says:

                The entire system is corrupt and broken. The system of checks and balances hasn’t worked correctly in years. More years than I’ve been alive, to be honest. There needs to be sweeping changes in Washington that won’t happen until the entire system collapses under its own weight and we have to pick up the pieces and rebuild.
                -
                As far as paranoia and fear on my part, when I look at history I see that every majoy civilization has come crashing down at one point or another. There is a life-span on these things that can’t really be extended. The Mayans, the Native Americans, the Chinese, the Russians, the Holy ROman Empire…..all of these civilizations at one point ‘ruled the world’, and all of them eventually failed. Some of them are back on the upswing again because history is cyclical in nature and tends to come back around to the way things were (or a variation thereof). I’m pretty sure we’re on our way out as the ‘leaders of the free world’. I just hope we don’t go down as hard as some of the other civilizations in history.
                -
                Don’t flame me. I don’t think we’re going back to living in huts and using horses and carts to get around (no matter what Greenpeace wants us to do). But I think our days of being the big mean kid on the block are numbered. Now, whether we go down under our own weight, or whether some other nation just takes us over remains to be seen (I’m not talking militarily either, I just mean takes over as in controlling trade, giving us money, that sort of thing…..China seems the best bet since they’re already doing that now), but it will happen. It’s just a matter of WHEN. If that’s paranoia then ok. I don’t think it is. I think it’s being a realist based on the histories of other nations and the track we’ve been taking over the last 100 years or so.

                • jules says:

                  A valid argument here. I’m just curious what 2012 will have in store for us and exactly what caused the Mayans to end their calendar there.

    • slanagat says:

      I really have to wonder whether the right wing bloviators stoking froofrou’s worry are massively distorting Obama’s plan to triple the size of the AmeriCorps service program and similarly expand the Peace Corps. A lot of the talk about expanding AmeriCorps has been focused on creating a civilian disaster-response organization to make up for the government’s post-Katrina failures, and the Peace Corps’ efforts to improve living conditions in sensitive areas of the world could do more to advance US diplomatic objectives than any number of fully outfitted brigades. That is to say, civilian service organizations could contribute massively to domestic and international security.

      Hmmmmm.

  33. framus says:

    How to brainwash your children 101.

  34. WannaSmile.com says:

    That was awesome. Thanks for posting this photo series.

  35. MediaMoet says:

    These little guys obviously don’t know a Democrat from a Republican. What they hopefully will take away is that an African American can become President. It’s historic and a valuable lesson for both of them. Their sharing of a sign makes it even sweeter. There will always be the naysayer “Mr. Potters” in the world. But like mean old Dick Cheney they will soon fade away.

  36. Delia says:

    Sharing is caring. When they’re 18, they’ll have learned enough to make their own decisions, hopefully.
    For now, it’s cute. End.

  37. Love says:

    My impression is the one boy wanted to share with the other boy and the parents were so touched or impressed they asked them to pose for the last picture.

    It’s special that two boys shared, embodying people coming together just as Obama is a result of two individuals who defied wrong stigmatism about the other’s culture. Perhaps soon America will truly become multicultural and less about people picking partners who match the shade of your skin.

    People and their prejudice. Surprised someone hasn’t complained about why the boy didn’t share with a girl and how the ‘good ol’ boys club’ oppresses women. -_-

  38. Bird is the Word says:

    hooray for sharing! i actually got a little misty eyed :D

  39. TwinkiesMum says:

    To the folks upstream who were complaining about people using their kids to further their own political agenda, I have two words for you: Sarah Palin. She pimped the kids out at every opportunity.

  40. Will says:

    That’s just too goddamn adorable for words.

  41. Jewpanese says:

    This is what I call spreading the wealth.

  42. Ali says:

    They shared. It’s cute, and it shows the unity this election season has created. Even after an intense primary, the Democrats pulled together, and made history in the process. It doesn’t matter that the kids probably don’t know all that much about politics.
    Look at it this way: a white kid is sharing his sign with a black kid. This sort of picture, many years ago, would have been impossible to find.
    I think it’s a great display of the progress toward unity we have made in this country.

  43. Ali says:

    And to those of you accusing the parents of using the kids: kids like sitting on daddy’s shoulders, and kids like holding signs. More likely than not, the kid asked for it. I remember one time when I was little I held a sign advertising a radio station I had never heard of. It didn’t matter, kids just like that sort of thing. It’s all about being part of things.

  44. Wickawyn says:

    That’s adorable!

  45. s57sunny says:

    Bottom line is: people are coming together for a common goal. In the process, by their examples, they are teaching their children not to hate one another for being different. It’s adorable, cute, intelligent, whatever adjective you want to use but it’s good. I’ll bet the people who bitched about this kick kittens and puppies for fun too!

  46. Bucky O'Hare says:

    Oops, forgot the joke part. FAIL

  47. The Great Bazooka says:

    why are people making such a big deal about this. its not like theyre giving them porn

  48. sin4jon says:

    Just plain AWESOME!

  49. Zggam says:

    Sharing is good. And this is super cute. I love it.

  50. Wombatish says:

    Here’s an idea….

    Instead of flaming each other in the comments, why not just appreciate a cool picture when you see one?

  51. sunset says:

    Awesome! And also…. so cute! I love this!

  52. Alexander says:

    Doin’ it right? I’m not so sure…the whole “vote for socialism” thing isn’t quite right in my mind…is there something wrong with me for that?

  53. Laura says:

    Bravo! We could all learn a lot from those two kids in just these four little pictures. Makes me smile :)

  54. Seph says:

    Impeach Obama!

  55. kathrynreherg says:

    this is so cute.

  56. Brianna says:

    A definite Win! :)

  57. Bradley says:

    Makes me all warm and fuzzy :D


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