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Making your parents proud Yer doin’ it right
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Making your parents proud Yer doin’ it right
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Awesome!
I saw this in voting and already forwarded it to all the parents I know. At least four people doing it right in this picture.
aren’t you guys getting tired of the lovey-dovey “ur doing it right” lolz? this site is supposed to be funny. who comes here for their daily dose of inspiration? yawn.
Well it is part of the ICHC network, why nots for a little cute?
photgrapher: Nida Vidutis
she has a flickr account
Really? How strange… I’ve known her for years. Great picture!
people who don’t have political issues and large boots up their asses?
YAH! Sideways methinks! :=)
What were you expecting from a site called Pundit Kitchen anyway? Hello, pundits are people who talk about politics.
yep. warm, fuzzy politics. thrilling.
Very touching.
I don’t think it’s touching I think it’s wrong. Fine for the parents to be involved in politics they know what is going on and what each candiates stand for but those kids don’t they are just waving those posters and sayin “Obama’s cool” because their parents told them too. That’s not cool, it’s wrong, it’s using your kids to push your own agenda. I supported Obama but I do not support parents using their kids as propaganda tools.
No, the awesomeness was in the one kid sharing with the other kid and the fact it brought their fathers together as well. That’s cool.
And so what if the kids are waving the posters because their parents told them to? Last time I checked we’re allowed to teach our children our values and religious beliefs and political ideas. They’ll hopefully learn critical thinking skills as they get older and make their own choices, but at this young age, they believe like their parents. Big friggin’ deal.
Demonstrating communism is awesome?
yes.
OH MY GOD
Take that stick outta your arse. It’s making you unable to see things as they simply are.
not stick, sofa
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sideways
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with people on
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fat people
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i mean like yo momma joke fat
Responsible parents (obviously not you, cause you probably did just give your kid a sign to wave) teach their kids about politics and candidates. We talk to them about why we are voting for a particular person. SOME of us even have kids who disagree with us and WE LET THEM KEEP LIVING IN OUR HOME. We encourage them to question everything. Try again!
Because 5 year old totally knows how a democratic system works. Look mommy! Why is the executive branch taking so much power from the legislative and judicial branches? Apparently they also know which candidate to go for as well, right? If your kids question everything, doesn’t that get annoying after some time? If they start questioning the way you raised them up, won’t that put you in possible rebellion on their part? Soon they’ll start questioning if the sky is actually blue.
You are totally straying from the point and making none of your own. Epic fail.
My point was that this person is arguing that their children question EVERYTHING as if it’s the correct way to raise a child. No, I am not a parent because I choose not to be at this point in my life. How am I straying away from the point? Children know what candidate to vote for, correct?
Because it is the right way. It teaches children to think for themselves and not just blindly trust. It teaches and encourages them to become their own person. And that’s a good thing. No, it doesn’t lead to your kids rebelling against everything you say, because hopefully your kids RESPECT YOU. You know, that’s something else you teach your kids, right? So what if they question if the sky is blue? What if Newton never questioned why the apple fell on his head? And if kids constantly questioning you is annoying, then it’s a good thing you aren’t a parent, because that’s what kids do. It’s how they find out how their world works. Instead of just giving them an answer, help them find their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKNAZbn9p0&feature=related
Those kids are very informed. Maybe it’s from their parents, maybe it’s their own thing. Either way, I’m impressed and don’t think kids shouldn’t be taken seriously just because they’re kids. Some of the most creative people I’ve met aren’t kids. There’s nothing wrong with them having opinions, no matter where they come from.
THANK YOU! Man it was getting annoying to see all this crap about kids. We do question things; it’s natural, but within reason. I’ve always asked why my parents were democratic, and if they didn’t give a good answer, I’d look at the other candidates and see if they were any better. I never argued with my parents, so they let me form my own opinion. These days, we aren’t the sort of programmed kids we used to be, so we are usually much different from our parents, and also have very different opinions.
Please! Never become a parent! If by some warped and convoluted way you do end up having kids, god I feel sorry for them.
By that age, I was definitely supporting my own candidate. (Usually, it was also the one my parents were supporting, but that was just because I was looking at ethics for the main part.)
And “If they start questioning the way you raised them up, won’t that put you in possible rebellion on their part?” EPIC FAIL! ALL kids question why they were raised up, and most parents admit to their kids that they could have done a better job. And kids usually do not go into hostile rebellion mode; at most there’s an argument.
Also, yes, it can get annoying to be asked about everything, but it will make a kid more intelligent and educated in the long run. (admitted, the ‘Why’ stage can be a bit exasperating, but that’s not legitimate questions, that asking for attention.)
Oh, and for defining terms, the sky is only blue about 30 percent of the time. Most of the day, it’s only grey or black (because of clouds, twilight, and night, duh) and to most animals, it appears grey. Plus, think of the other planets in the solor system. You didn’t specify that it was only our sky, so what about the moon? (Sorry that was probably annoying; to us mortals, the sky is blue after all).
But back to my point (wow, I was almost straying as much as you were) Kids do have their own opinions, and it’s best for them to ask questions. Given how screwed up the world is right now, don’t you think it’s time for change?
(you’ve just been pwned by an eigth grader. Ooh what now?? lol jking)
hell five year olds don’t know shit about calculus, better not bother trying to teach them how to add, that would be silly. They can’t get through my lawbooks either, better not let them near dr. seuss.
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Apparently you arn’t the asking questions sort, because if you were you’d realize there is absolutely no harm in asking questions and trying to get new information, it makes you an intelligent well rounded individual. Maybe they will ask if the sky is blue, and then they’ll come to find that it’s only blue when you see the light refracting at a certain angle and when it’s even that angle causes the reds and pinks in the sky :O learning
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Everyone has a bit of rebellion, again not a bad thing, it means they are thinking for themselves. God i hope you arn’t a parent.
what the hell are you talking about? Your whole argument is one run on sentence.
You must be joking. He/she makes a coherent, intelligent rebuttal to your comment, and you can only flame him/her? Wow.
“what the the hell are you talking about?”
Can you read? Do you actually know the definition of a run on sentence?
Please, leave the arguments for the educated and well informed.
The sky isn’t blue. It just appears that way during the daytime.
(It’s black at night! Orange and red and purple during sunsets/sunrise!)
I’ve often questioned why myself.
Technically, the sky isn’t blue. It is every color BUT blue. Blue is the color that refracts back instead of being absorbed.
I said I don’t think parents should use their kids to forward their own agendas by making them support candidates they support and your reply is I probably give my kids posters to wave around. I’m sorry but that makes no sense. Responsible parents… with kids that age would teach their kids people need to vote to stand up for their own rights and what they believe is right they shouldn’t be used as camera fodder at political rallies. I was raised by parents who voted but are not overly political they encouraged me to think, to use my own mind and to think about the candidates, their strengths and weaknesses and decide who is best for me and the world how I see it. Now I make My Own decisions NOT my parents decisions and vote for who I think will be the best candidate. It is wrong to brainwash your children to believe everything you believe. Children are people. Intelligent ones and they should be allowed to make their own opinions and not have those of their parents forced upon them.
I am not a troll. I come here regularly. I read the comments and look at all the lols. I don’t post very often but it does not mean my opinion does not count.
And how do you know that the parents didn’t teach them about both candidates and that the kids didn’t choose the one they liked? If they’re as intelligent as you say they are, they could have easily made that decision. I find it silly that you assume that the parents have forced this on them. I say that we don’t make assumptions and focus on the really amazing act: sharing and bringing two families together.
you mean like Sarah Palin’s daughter and now fiancée being paraded for the masses?
all this brainwashing you speak of? it’s called parenting. what kind of asshole parents don’t try to pass something along to their kids?
Everyone has the right to their opinion, but if you make assumptions about others aren’t you just as bad as the other people? What if the two children were sharing popcorn? The message was about an innocent moment between children that brought the adults together. Somehow it has been turned into brainwashing children! Do you know these people? Have you been to their homes to watch them raise their kids? We can all learn from children when we pay attention. It’s just a photo that was meant to be nice. Sometimes it is possible to read too far into something. They are not posing for the cameras. It was a moment caught on film. I think everyone in this thread should take a deep breath and relax.
I was going to say something similar to this but you put it so well that now I don’t have to. Cheers Miyuroki!
So…if you’re a responsible parent, you teach your children about politics but turn around and say it’s evil to let them express themselves or…heaven forbid, let them be a part of something that’s important in their parents lives?
Can we say…out of touch with reality, anyone?
how do you know these parents didn’t talk to their kids about politics anyways?
Over a Cuban cigar, while sipping port…
nice catch to the whole over-reacted topic xD xD
Well, there’s our mandatory troll for the thread. And people say quotas are obsolete.
OMG I know, how dare those parents get their kids involved in and excited about politics! We need more apathetic citizens!
Yes, let’s go to the historic, once-in-a-lifetime victory rally. Better get a sitter for the kids, tho. God forbid we have any influence on their opinions, or give them any childhood memories. They need to pick up their politics on the streets, just like their sex ed.
Yeah! Learning in school or at home is for pansies!
Yay rhorho
“They need to pick up their politics on the streets, just like their sex ed.”
I think we’re even on damaged computer screens dear!
Nah, the kids don’t need sitters, or parents, or to be witness to an historic public address. That’s what Nintendo is for…
Obvious troll is obvious
Obvious FTW YAY!!
Why? Because I don’t agree with everyone. Quick stone me now.
NO, nutbag, it’s because you have managed to take a simple picture
of two kids sharing a moment and blown it up into some political
diatribe about how you were raised and blah blah blah blah……
Remove the stick, please.
Wrong.
I didn’t make it political the caption did. “Making your parents proud your doing it right”
Kids don’t see black and white kids see another kid to play and fight with. The caption made it political and I voiced my opinion. At least I have an opinion which I can voice instead of a repeated mantra about a stick.
Nowhere in that caption do I see a single political statement. As far as
I can tell, its a statement about parenting. What DOES make it political
is the fact that they’re at the Obama victory rally. The picture clearly shows
two fathers being proud their boys came together to share… share
a poster yes, but sharing none the less. This caption could be used (as someone stated earlier) with two boys sharing a bag of popcorn. Its the picture
that is political, not the caption.
No, because you are making blatant assumptions and trying to turn this into something it’s not. You assume that these pictures were staged, by the parents, to make a political point. What disgusting cynicism. You assume that any parent that takes their kids to a political rally is trying to ‘use’ their kid to make some kind of a ’statement.’ But what statement are they trying to make, and why is that wrong?
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Look, maybe they just brought their kids to a rally because, oh I don’t know, sitters are expensive and a rally is something the family can do together whether the kids know what’s going on or not? Your motivations are obvious. You are conservative, and a picture of kids getting along at an Obama rally is too positive for you, you have to tear it down, so you make up some idiotic ‘concern’ about the children being forced to do something against their will by their overbearing liberal parents. Your mind is sick, troll, you need a psychologist.
*Hands Seth a stone*
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They asked for it, and that was an excellent verbal stoning!
Yer back! Yay! People are funny. They want to have their opinions but they don’t want anyone else to have opinions about their opinions, unless those opinions are positive. Because, evidently, having negative opinions about other people’s opinions is censorship. So we need to stop expressing our opinions about other people’s opinions. Yes, the cure for imaginary censorship is… real censorship.
Seth, that gave me a headache with all those opinions..
Oh, and for what it’s worth, I was promised bon-bons. That’s why I’m back..
*offers half-gone box of bon-bons to Eddie*
dang it! There will be payback.. you know that, right?
Well said. People want to have their opinions but I am not allowed to voice mine.
*sigh* Why must we go through this everytime. OBVIOUSLY you are allowed to voice your opinion because PK has not removed it from the board, nor has any commenter called for said removal. However, we are also allowed to express the opinion that you are an insufferable ass and we’d all be a lot happier if you’d pull the stick out of said ass. This is how free speech works.
If the stick gets pulled out, can I beat ell with it? Please? Just one good whack ought to do it.. We can use it as part of the Logic Leagues defense plan!
What part of “I support Obama” don’t you understand. I voted for him and I’d do it 10 times over.
I think it was right around the part where we don’t care who you supported because you’re still a jerk.
You don’t actually read your own posts do you. I don’t think kids should support a candidate just because their parents support it.
I don’t think this photo makes a particular statement about black and white cause kids don’t see black and white unless they have been brainwashed to by their parents they just see another kid to play and fight with.
you do realize that children can’t vote, don’t you? while i’m at it, what makes the pictures so awesome is two kids NOT being taught to hate each other. i’m from a white southern family, Lester Maddox gave a toast at my grandmothers’ birthday party. study the civil rights movement for a minute and you will know what this picture means for all of us.
I supported McCain and I still think you’re a tool.. everyone else here that supported Obama, I say “Well done!” To you I say, “Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberry.”
do you break wind in their general direction?
That would be affirmative..
Eddie come up with your own arguement instead of just backing everyone up. I am not an ass but I do not think it is right for parents to force their children to support a candidate the kids will no nothing about. Very Reasonable opinion I think.
Dude! that was awesome! I agree, the family probably thought that, hey, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, and there isn’t time to get a sitter, so lets all go! The kid’s will appreciate it later on probably!
And then there just happened to be a camera there.
My parents taught me political conservatism. I praised Republican candidates and made fun of Democratic ones.
I’m a liberal today. I learned my parents’ political values but I wasn’t forced to keep them. So give it up.
Now, I think it’s cool because of the kids sharing and reaching out to each other in a way that brought their fathers together. And because it was two fathers. And because the kids got to experience a big political event, regardless of party. And because the kids in the pictures are epitomizing the actual spirit of what Obama was speaking about–even if Obama’s just a politician and to him they’re just words, these kids are actually embodying the words.
So yeah, a lot of coolness all the way around. Only someone obsessed with trying to play identity politics won’t be able to see it, I think.
You rocks, Ham. You articulated much better than I did the true level of awesomeness in this pic.
Cheers!
I agree, I think this was a great thing to happen, but I’m sure this has happened in many moments that have been missed. This increases the value of the picture that the moment was captured. What people either look into or lose sight of the fact that the kids found unity in this event, not barack obama. This confuses people on both sides, but apparently not you Ham. Hats off to you.
What I love about the photo series is my fantasy that the white kid looked over at the black kid and said, “Hey, there’s another kid, up on shoulders like me!” Kids can see commonalities a lot more quickly than we jaded adults can.
My Mom took me to a political rally when I was 9 and I shook hands with Trudeau
who was shortly thereafter elected to Prime Minister of Canada. Of course I didn’t understand the political and social implications of the time. But I asked questions and learned and become involved in the political process as an adult. Partly because I had experienced the feelings of hope and excitement that are represented in this photo.
That’s a pretty cool story, thanks for sharing
I agree with Jules, Baca. Even if you had changed parties, you would still have a neat memory–a brush with history, however brief.
Ham, you unmitigated turd! I wish I’d written that!
this is, quite frankly, the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard. we’re supposed to just let our kids just sit and not try and pass anything along to them? seriously? it’s called, um…parenting.
Parenting? Are you mad? That’s what TV, Game Consoles and the Internet is for!
You’ll be suggesting next people speak to their children!
Don’t forget nannies for the wealthy, they can afford to pay someone else to raise their children.
ZOMG–What if the parents are away, and nanny’s secretly a, a, libberull???
Or like the ones in The Omen?
Same thing, to a Republican.
I thought Damien WAS a Republican
Well, he does have the same ‘tude as some of the evangelicals on TV. That said, I think most righties still think God votes straight GOP ticket.
The probably think that’s what the G stands for…
I agree with ell on the point of not using kids to push your own agenda. Of course this picture was released with the obivous purpose of pushing the drama and eliciting support from people. Intentionally or unintentionally the kids became tools in the political arena.
I smell a dirty sock…
I’m not sure. Without run-on sentences, it’s hard for me to tell. I WISH the opinion were limited to one person!
I don’t write like that. I get more heated and emotional. Read my posts then read this persons and you’ll know we are not the same.
no it’s touching because its one child sharing with another child, an innocent compromise perhaps. so that both children can have fun at an event that their parents brought them to…
Your concern is noted.
At that age the kids are saying “Obama’s cool” because their parents tell them to?
What sort of a nut job are you? The kids are saying “Cool I get to stay up late and I have this bright thing to wave and there’s stuff going on and there’s another kid wants my sign we can share I’m going to ask for a hotdog on the way home it’s good being on dad’s shoulders” you loon.
You seriously think the kid is sitting there being indoctrinated into the Democratic party? If so I expect to see you protesting outside a sunday school or church soon.
Do you really think that kids shouldn’t be taken to rallies? Should they also not be allowed to watch debates on TV? Should their parents never mention politics to them?
I disagree. Being informed starts when your young. There’s no reason parents can’t bring their kids to rallies and also encourage them to think for themselves. My views are somewhat different from my Mother’s, but when I was little she took me to rallies all the time, and I had a blast. Besides, on you parent’s shoulders is the best seat in the house!
I waved signs and supported the candidates my parents did, when I was growing up…. Then I started to form my own opinions and now my parents are appalled at my political views… but they are proud that I think for myself… I love this series of pics.
WTF Man? So essentially you’re saying that because I’m a teen, I don’t have my own opinions? (And don’t get into the legal stuff plz.) I mean, yes, a 6 yr old probably doesn’t understand the entire democratic system, but I certainly knew who I’d support when I was that old. And do you think that I attended community projects and rallys and protests because my parents made me? Seriously dude!
And you don’t seem to get the symbolism either. Obviously, the parents weren’t ‘making’ them share, it was just that they decided too, regardless of whether they were black or white. (Yes, the peace sign thing was probably fixed, but other than that..) Sorry, rant over.
I’m pretty sure the parents didnt force them to hold the sign up… children are just very impressionable and most children go for the candidate their parent’s are supporting, its not the dads forcing the children to hold up that sign its the children making a decision based on what their parents think.
and btw we all think that children should make their own political choices and shit but the only way to effectively do that is to isolate them from all other humans with political opinions untill they are about 14 or so and then give them 2 nonbiased explanations as to what each political party or candidate stands for
Most excellent WIN!! That is an award winning quality series of photos!
I was totally there when they took that picture! If I wasn’t so short I could probably see me!!!!!
at first i thought they were pointing gun-fingers at each other. haha.
Great pictures.
Except, the white boy is giving the UK the finger. o.O
Churchill did that a few times
The palm out is the ‘V-for-Victory’, palm in is ‘up yours’ or something like that.
That’s a neat British gesture, from archery times. Really cool!
rhorho speaks truly. I learned about it on a trip to the UK. It comes from one of the wars between the British and the French. (My knowledge of history and my memory are not quite good enough that I can tell you exactly what war.) Anyway, the French feared the skilled British archers, so many captured Britts got the pointer and middle fingers of their right hands cut off to prevent them from drawing their bowstrings in the future. So as a bit of visual smack talk when facing the French, the Britts would hold up their two fingers to say “I’ve still got these and I’m gonna use ‘em to shot you full of arrows.”
That’s how I heard it, anyway.
Archers weren’t worth crap for ransom, hence they weren’t captured, just mauled on the battlefield. But don’t believe me – I’m just a history major. But Snopes says you’re wrong, too.
He did mention that “that’s how he heard it, anyway”. Give the guy a break.
No, remember, the Brits invented the longbow, so the French were getting really annoyed that they were being shot with something as powerful as their own crossbows, but that could reload almost instantly. At least thats what the gesture means now. But don’t believe me – I’m a high schooler
Yeah, that’s an old wives tale, but it’s a good story.
I put my last comment in the wrong place, but I checked out Snopes, and it does claim the story is wrong. Does anyone know the true origin?
Sounds like a job for… Uncle Festaaaa… far as I know the story’s actually right and Snopes is off. Happens!
TBH no one REALLY knows.
Maybe it was the French who caused it. We tend to blame them for most things. (when Scots refer to the ‘Auld enemy’ your average Englishman looks for a French or German in room before realising they’re referring to him)
Personally, I favour it being a Crusades thing, since it emphatic nature is more in keeping with Levantine gestures of the time, and became reimported with the soldiery coming home… I think it’s probably just lost in the mists of time.
The French and the ENGLISH.
Agincourt was a long, long time before the union.
That’s actually a myth about the “Archery Times”
http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.asp
Wow–Snopes should send Wikipedia a memo, yes?
ANSWER: Unc says he thinks it’s probably just lost to the mists of thyme, or something like that.
Hello chaps! Brit here! The V-sign is a great British invention and it’s so nice to see it exported across the pond. To clarify – Sylderon is correct. Palm facing your viewer is V for victory. Fingers only facing your viewer is a tad more rude.
The history – the story goes that it became popular during the Battle of Agincourt (Brits v French but we’re over that now). French soldiers would capture the archers but instead of dispatching them, they would chop off their first two fingers and send them back across. Of course, without fingers an archer could not pull back the bow and was useless in battle. The V-sign was a sign to the enemy that that the archer still had their fingers – so watch out! How true is this story? Well, no one really knows so a pinch of salt may be required when considering this to be gospel.
Cheerio!
They mentioned this story on QI. If Stephen Fry says it’s false, then it’s false. All hail the fountain of knowledge that is Stephen Fry!
Indeed… there’s also a view it may have come from the Crusades
Dear Lord, Uncle Fester! You make it sound as if we’re fond of war and other scrapes!
I concur to Sir Stephen of Fry. He was probably there.
I can’t think of anyone we’ve NOT been at war with at least in some form.
Yeah, you sent us the Beatles, Led Zeppelin and the Stones. I lubz me a British Invasion!
War between French and ENGLISH.
NOT the British.
Oh for crying out loud…they are six year old children, like they would know the difference? Get over your little selves, that is an awesome and inspiring photo story.
good thing were in america.. obviously,
being an american election
for the american president……………………………… not uk
;]
p.s. aaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwz!
Nah, he’s just flashing the peace sign at the other boy; they’re making the hand gesture to each other and not the camera. Cute
I can name a few parents that would disown their kids for doing that.
Ah, but they’re not filthy liberals who voted Democrat, are they?
Hey, I had a bath this week, Unc!
Okay, not *this* week, but it’s only Tuesday…
Lol!
Once a month, whether I need one or not…
You smell fine from here!
Usually of Astor Cologne, truth be told… I do ‘tweedy and English’ to an alarming degree…
Republican version – Kid on dad’s shoulder’s drinking a can of bud. Throws can at other kid. Kids start fighting. Dads start fighting.
As a teacher, I can tell you that the above version with the can of Bud is more likely to happen with the children of my Democrat parents. The Republican parents aren’t at a rally – they have a JOB to go to tomorrow!
Yeah, MomKat’s right. Democrats don’t have jobs. For example, I have a job, so…wait. MomKat’s full of corn and beans!
Well rhorho, why isn’t Ceefax also full of corn and beans? She can say anything nasty she wants about Republicans but if someone says something equal about Democrats everyone gets bent?
I’ll leave Ceefax alone, because I don’t know. Today’s exchange with T the troll was strange, and they both stepped over the line, egging each other on. Is that why you have that opinion about Ceefax? For the record, I didn’t say MomKat is the *only* person full of corn and beans. There’s enough corn, beans and PIE
to go around, if needed.
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The thing that jerked my chain about MomKat is that she started off with “As a teacher, I can tell you,” then related her limited experience. The holes in her argument are wide enough, but that’s not what got to me. She likely has jumped to conclusions, i.e. white=employed=Republican and non-white=unemployed=Democrat. It’s not likely that she asked all of her students’ parents for their political party affiliations, so she’s probably going on her assumption of income and/or race. Her verbage sounds like bigot “code.” It certainly draws ignorant lines, at the least.
(I believe the neologism is “dog-whistle politics”)
Good catch, Herb!
I was merely trying to give background to my experience. How do you know what race or political affiliation I am? As for my asking parents for political affiliations, I don’t have to. I’ve been told, and been looking at Obama stickers and T-shirts for months. And no, most of them aren’t employed. You all are making many more assumptions than I ever have.
I feel sorry for your students.
They feel sorry for themselves, too!
It was decent for you to write again, but I totally disagree with everything you’ve said and implied. Herb taught me the term “dog-whistle politics,” which definition goes a lot further towards explaining my objections than I did.
I, too, am familiar with the term. I am sorry that you feel that I am speaking in code – I assure you, that was not my intention.
How do you explain your sweeping generalization that Democratic voters don’t have jobs to go to, explaining why they are free to attend rallies? How fair was that assessment, do you suppose?
About as fair as the generalizations I see here about Republicans. Unfair on both sides, I suppose. I shall have to put more thought into any future comments.
Hey! there’s always room for an equal opportunity bigot! I know I hate everyone in equal measure…
Dunno, em. Seems like most folk who wander in and make sweeping generalizations get slapped.
But I’m geralizing, of course…
Genralizing. geraldizong… *breathes heavily* GENER A LYE ZING!! *Gives out tarzan-like yell and hurls self off the edge of the keyboard*
*picks pdq up*
*dusts pdq off*
*props pdq back onto keyboard edge*
*gives pdq a cookie*
The ‘Fariness doctrine’ monitor has spoken…
dude. you did not want to go there.
OK, imagine this:
What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard
Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of
his graduating
class?
What if McCain had only married once and Obama was a
divorcee?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a
long affair while
he was still married?
What if McCain were still married to the first woman he
said ‘I do’ to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife
after she no
longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became
addicted to pain
killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable
organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
(Five US senators accused of corruption in 1989 igniting a major political scandal as
part of the savings and loan scandal in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s)
What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
What if McCain were a charismatic,eloquent speaker?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience
that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to publicly
display a serious
anger management problem?
What if Michele Obama’s family had made their money
from beer
distribution?
What if things were switched around?
Would the country’s collective point of view be
different?
What if the Obama had paraded five children across the
stage following the
debate including a 3 month old infant and an unwed, pregnant
teenage
daughter?
MomKat also apparently can’t understand the concept of going to a rally AND going to work the next day. MINDBLOWING.
LOL–MomKat apparently can’t understand MANY concepts! I wish I could say I don’t hear crap just like hers around here! For all I know, she’s my next door neighbor–YIKES!!
Better hope she’s not your kid’s teacher…
Worse–She teaches ESL! (English as a Second Language)
We don’t call it that anymore. We call it ENL (English as a New Language) and we refer to the students in the program as ELL’s (English Language Learners). This is because of the supposedly unfair assumption that students learning English only know their native tongue. They may be a language genius with the ability to speak 14 languages, however, English is not one of them. I’m up with the buzz words because I am also a teacher, although I usually don’t feel the need to preface my statements with that fact to lend legitimacy to them.
Im sure if someone REALLY wanted to disagree with you they could
always choose the PK tried and true method of “ignoring stated facts”
or “declare them partisan biased.”
MomKat–As a Democrat, I am sick and tired of the insinuation that I don’t work. I have worked full time since the age of seventeen, put myself through school, and bought my first home at twenty-four. The only debt I have is my mortgage, and the only public money I have collected was two weeks of unemployment……..oooohhhh, guess that makes me a lazy socialist!
Now, how about you? Why are you a teacher? That’s just a low paying job for losers, isn’t it? Glorified babysitting. If you were smart, you would work in the private sector. Why didn’t you get a business degree?
Now, this isn’t my true opinion, I have the upmost respect for teachers (except close-minded ones like you). But how does it make you feel to be on the receiving end of such stupid crap?
Kalistongue, I agree with you except on one point. You paid into the unemployment insurance system, so you weren’t on public money for those two dinky weeks.
Ya, I always wondered about that, the times I was on unemployment, I was only using the money I had specifically paid in. It wasn’t anybody else’s money………
And I work 40 hours a week now, stay up late, bathe, yet am affiliated with neither party. Damn, I had a point somewhere but I ated it.
Maybe your wang had the point. I’ve heard that can be distracting.
A man should be greater than some of his parts…
I agree with you that people shouldn’t automatically assume Democrats don’t have jobs. But it also would be nice if you guys didn’t automatically assume all Republicans are trigger happy, fight at all times sort of people. Both Ceefax and Momkat crossed the line, but somehow only Momkat got scolded…not cool.
I’m with you luis. People who play “make fun of the other guy” when it comes to politics aren’t much better than people who tell racist jokes or dumb blond jokes etc.
Sounds a little off at first, but I mean mainly in the fact that “lets make fun of stuff that isn’t like us” which just leads to ignorance. I am a democrat, true and blue and I think both extreme sides (o’reily etc.) are just plain ignorant. It’s not the people who are rock solid democrat, or rock solid republican that decide elections. It’s swing voters and independents. All you people who throw stones do is make those people steer away from makind educated decisions in politics because they tire of the bickering. Shame shame.
Jeez. Hadley at the top of this page thinks we’re too nice, sappy, and boring. Ya can’t win.
Hadley should have been around here a month or so ago.. things weren’t so lovey-dovey then!
I never said anyone was lazy. As for your questions – I did work in the private sector for a long time – as a CPA with an MBA. I have no debt – paid off my house and my cars, have enough in savings for my and my childrens’ futuress, and have never taken public money. I went back to school, got an MEd, and I am a teacher because I wanted to make a difference in the world – that’s why I took a “low paying job for losers. Glorified babysitting.” I work in an inner city school trying to help kids every day. Please don’t make assumptions about who and what I am. My comment was simply a reaction to the assumption that Republicans are drunks and abusers. I see enough of it every day to make me sick, and enough bias and hate from both sides to make me doubt the future of this nation. I apologize for offending anyone. As for how I feel to be on the recieving end of all of this, it merely makes me sad that people can hate so much because of ideas. It explains the mess that we’re all in.
You say you’re sick of bias and hate and yet you add to the bias and hate here. Hypocrite.
I fail to see how anything I have said could possibly be more hateful than the bile and venom I see being spewed here on a daily basis. If you think that I am a hypocrite, so be it. As I said, all of this makes me sad, because of what it is causing in our country on both sides of the political spectrum.
Re-Read your first comment! You make it sound as though you just toddled in here, said something totally innocent, then got pummeled! Srsly, Miss Bo Peep you ain’t! Unfortunately for you, a lot of people in here are smarter than your students, and are able to defend themselves by pointing out your bad assumptions.
I think a lot of assumptions are being made on both sides.
not to liek be an ass or anything but…you said democrats don’t have a job…maybe that’s why they voted for oba, they wanted one! nd maybe they lost theirs with bush, you can never know
so people should stop assuming things, we’re all right and we’re all wrong just get over it srsly
Other people did it, that makes it okay for me too, right? What would you honestly do if your students tried to pull that one on you? I’m sorry, but two wrongs don’t make a right. If you respond to hatred and bigotry with more hatred and bigotry you don’t suddenly get happiness and fairness for all, you just get more hatred and bigotry. You flew off the handle and made assumptions that were insulting and unfair and now you’re trying to excuse yourself and backtrack. Just admit that you were wrong already and move on.
I agree; I’m in the same boat. I’ll never forget the time, way back in 2004, when Bush flew into my town and there were essentially two rallies going on at the airport–one for him, and one against. I was on the “against” side, and I can’t count how many time the “for” people yelled, “Get a job!” It didn’t make any sense, not only because I have a job and so did everyone else I knew there, but also because if only people without jobs were at the rally, then how come they were there?
What does it say about our education system when our children are being taught (at the government’s dime! ON NO SOCIALISM!) by nitwits so deluded that they think Republicans don’t attend rallies.
I guess those thousands upon thousands of people at McCain’s rallies were all just self-hating Democrats. (Which would explain the booing)
As a teacher, I can tell you that you should be ashamed of yourself for stereotyping your kids and the families they come from. No Child Left Behind as long as they agree with my politics? Get off your high horse lady.
*hands Jane the Logic Stick*
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I’m going to leave this one for you to beat into submission, ok?
Democrates drink wine and vodka martinis. Republicans drink cheap beer. (lol jking, no offense) But i think that it wasn’t really aimed at republicans, thats kind of like what goes on at a redneck sports tornament or something, not respectable political rallies. And who says that democrats don’t have jobs? Granted, they don’t earn as much, but they’re less willing to lie and cheat (think of the oil companies)
Yep
Wait no that’s just dumb.
Yeah, but it’s funnier than MomKat’s answer.
For what? Holding up a sign, sharing, or flipping the U.K. bird?
Holding an Obama sign.
This is too adorable (nevermind symbolic) for words.
AWWWWWWWW.
That is frickin’ awesome.
Once again proving that children are some of the kindest souls on earth (Until you tell them to go to bed without a snack. Damn.)
Epic. Win.
F*ck those kids.
Seek Anger Management Therapy…
are you a catholic priest?
Look at the name – clearly a Wapanese shota-fan.
I think you missed the funny.
Yeah, wrong site.
I caught the funny, obviously enough, and put another spin on it. Wasn’t trying to be literal, there. Glad you caught on, though.
We are overdue for a pope lol…
second!
you remind me of that lady who didn’t want to give candy to Pro-Obama kids
Kid: Trick or Treat!
Lady: Do you like Obama?
Kid: Uhhh…Sure
Lady: F*** YOU little terrorist kids. No candy for you
Kid: What’s f***?
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How did they find out about me?
Surveillance(sp?) care of the patriot act, of course!
Shirley Nagel was her name. If little kids didn’t understand the question, she would ask their parents, and deny/provide accordingly.
Niiice
I’d have lied and thrown it at her. Yeah, I know that “proves” her point. I don’t care, what a c*nt.
And the REAL kicker is, I happen to love peanut M&Ms! She’s extra mean because she used “good” candy. I mean, if you had to have GOP voting parents to get some Smarties candies, then “oh well, no bigs, next house.”
Maybe she was redistributing their share to less fortunate children who couldn’t visit as many houses.
No, she was just being a b*tch.
1 (313) 884-2598
…wut?
I’m not sure, but you should totally annoy this person as much as possible.
S Nagel (313) 884-2598 465 Belanger St, Grosse Pointe Farms, MI 48236
If you don’t know about her, click my name for youtube of news story.
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I hope she had to move and change her phone number. What a squealin bitch! I felt the sorriest for her neighbors, who had to jump in and save the fun for the trick-or-treaters.
*blinks* I hadn’t heard about that… did I step into an alternate universe, or did some of McCain’s looney-toon base go right over the edge??
And srsly, someone needs to tell her that the Tammy Faye look went out YEARS ago…
No one went over the edge!
(Please ignore the backwards “B” on my face.)
Jules, you simply MUST stop making me spew coffee! I’m running out of monitor wipes!
Aww you just need a dust mask.
Wow. My favorite part isn’t even the video itself, it’s that all the comments from people who think the woman is despicable were marked as spam. Bravo.
It was the phone number that confused me, so I Googled it.
Google – making victimisation of insane old biddies possible since 2008
QQ
Are they on your lawn again?
I find flash bang grenades lobbed into the pack works well for all seasons…
Trick or treat, Carollers, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons…
I stopped using CS gas since they just rolled around on the grass moaning ‘My eyes! My eyes!’ which defeated the purpose and upset the cat.
That would be pedophilia.
The hobby of the RCC since Pius I.
Now if only the rest of the country would take a lesson from these kids and their parents.
Well played future generations, well played.
I get so sick of this pic. NEXT
Still got that chip on yer shoulder,eh laddie? I know you think it’s a ‘head’ but we know it’s just a bit of wood…
Yes, racial harmony is so sickening! People making friends and enjoying human brotherhood–PUHTOOEY!
Kid on the left looks like me when I was a little’un. =o
Awwww, you’re cute Phaelin!
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
plz post something funny
kthxbye
Some one taken your shiny objects? Poor thing…
*points to the LOLcats*
More your speed, I think.
Too cute, he might enjoy failblog more.
failblog iz fail
srsly
I only come here when LolCats and Hotdogs is slow…
Leave the voting age at age 18, only make it under 18. Less bigotry that way. And I see funny campaign ads “I, Ralph Nader, promise to lower taxes on candy factories…” Never mind, scratch that idea
Promise them goodies, the Democrats already do that! It works too.
And Tax cuts aren’t bribes?
Yes! They are.
So Republicans promise goodies too…
I guess they try, they aren’t as convincing apparently…
Young people think Republicans are boring.
That’s why they should ride an elephant. Anyone could ride a donkey, but an elephant? They’re already circus freaks anyways (yes, low blow, I know).
How young? I have 22 year old sons that are Republicans.. even did campaign work for Romney.
Is Yep calling your kids boring, or claiming that your kids are self-loathing bores? *scratches head*
I think it was the broad brush of generalization..
Only because Obama was the one promising them money for college, stimulus checks, and the like. Little do they realize that they’re going to have to put in service hours to earn that “free” money.
More people my age (collegiate) would probably vote Republican if the GOP started promising handouts, too.
It would be nice if we could give more handouts for college instead of handouts for failing businesses…
Seriously. That’d fix failing businesses in the long-run, too!
That would also create more responsible companies, using community-conscious business practices.
Depends… a lot of the failure wasn’t down to businesses in the ‘real’ sense, but in the insane Wonderland that is Wall Street. What started as a method of raising working capital for expansion has become a phantom zone where, if everyone tried to cash in at once, there’d not be enough money to go around.
I meant that putting college kids into the community would create better business people=better business practices in the future. I was borrowing Phaelin’s “in the long run,” so I wasn’t clear, tho.
Not while they teach the voodoo crap that passes for economic theory. Intelligent Design has more evidence than any ’school’ of Economic thought…
Something to ponder: Intelligent Design is neither.
Gee, that sounds a lot like the Military!
more at domestic Peace Corps, methinks
Or (Godwin) OBAMA’S BROWN SHIRTS!!!!!11111 (/Godwin)
I’m just glad they didn’t go with claiming the uniforms would look like Kenyan “native” costumes.
Desert camo and an AK?
*SNORK!*
The GOP does promise handouts. Just, they promise them to corporate upper management, which is a much smaller voter base. More money, often. Which suits the suits just fine, but doesn’t do much for the GOP when the economy’s tanking.
Maybe a very small number of people expect Obama to give them something for nothing, but if someone listened to his “Get out there and do something” rhetoric, they also likely heard him place the responsibility on the American people to help enact his changes.
They promise a lot of things… they all do…
Rule of thumb… if they promise anything, other than war without end, then they’re usually lying…
But I was promised a copy of Backdoor Sl*ts 8!!?
HA! I got my copy..
Goodies? Like subsidies for industries posting record profits?
“Leave the voting age at age 18, only make it under 18.”
Logic and/or math fail.
LOL, I didn’t get it either.
Yeah, that one took me a second. Basically, he means leave the voting age at 18, but instead of 18+ make it 18 and under. Make sense? Obama won either way, going by Kid’s Pick the President. XD
Sort of like a Logan’s Run of voting?
In a way, I guess you could say so. At 19 your voting rights would stop.
Adorable. You go little munchkins.
That’s so sweet. I used to hang out on my Dad’s shoulders at political rallies when I was a kid, but I was never that photogenic.
I think my heart just melted
Wait a minute: the guy the black kid was sitting on changed colour between the first and last pic. HES A VELOCIRAPTOR RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
no he didn’t. effects of lighting.
velociraptor fear FOR THE WIN!
*sniffle* This is so adorable. Too bad my high schoolers aren’t so cute.
They’re just in that non-cute phase.. it wears off.. when they hit 80..
Bullshit@!
Yeah, really. There’s no possible way that guy could be a velociraptor!
Totally staged phony nonsense, get a gripe folks, all is not sweetness and light out there.
Perhaps when the perma-haters in the (D) column lighten up just a teense, the (R) haters will do the same.
Chan ces of (D)’s ever lightening up? NIL!
That’s the spirit!
No We Can’t! No We Can’t!
I would join you in your cheer, Mark, but for some reason, feel oddly like I … can’t. Hmm.
What if it is staged? It’s still heart-warming. And why would we want to get a “gripe”? I have a gripe about trolly perma-haters of any ilk. Lighten up fxquant, or get a grip, whatever.
No, not really. It could have been if had just been about kids sharing, but then people had to bring race into it. It suddenly ‘means something’ since a white kid shared with a black kid? Pointing it out like that is racist. If no one mentioned it then the next generations would grow up not even knowing about racism. But since people insist on pointing it out every time someone does something non-racist as if it was extraordinary, kids notice and it makes them wonder what the big deal was. Then they ask questions and people explain things like “white people used to never share with black people because they were slaves”, leading the children to think something like 1) my people were slaves, white people do kinda suck for that, or 2) my people used to own black people as property, why’s that not ok now? Obviously this is a tad oversimplified, but seriously folks – racism is one of the only problems that gets better if you *don’t* go pointing things out all the time. It’s like finding some random wounded person, poking them with a stick and wondering why they hurt and don’t like you much. Let kids be kids and stop teaching them hate while trying to teach acceptance.
… WOW. This is so inane, I can’t even think of a retort.
you’re too racist to notice your own hypocrisy, or too dumb to know the difference. They’re right. You don’t stop people from looking for differences and holding them against each other by pointing them out and making kids that would otherwise never have cared in the first place notice them.
wtf is up with your last sentence?
Okay, your ignorance (or just the fact that you read waaaaaaaaaaaay into this picture) just made me break my awe. Here’s where you are wrong. Pointing out differences is NOT racists, unless you’re using those differences to one-up the other person. People can be different all they want. But if they are able to to share those differences and understand one another, what exactly is the problem with that? It’s better these kids understand that now, than later.
Exactly, whatever happened to “Celebrating diversity”?
“They’re right.” ? I call shenanigans – you two are clearly the same person.
And for the record, no. But we’re in the same house.
Sock ID confirmation, FTW.
Seem to be a few dirty socks on this board. Someone needs to do laundry!
Oh wait, that’s me.
Whydja hafta say it, Jules??? *slump-shouldered trudge to mud room*
So, the only way to learn from history is to totally ignore it?
Precisely. THAT is where the resentment and hatred spawns.
Never mind. I’m done here. Ignorance is bliss.
Uh, what does a sock say?
Depends on whose hand is up there and how far…
I think that was “sigh’s” third id, but I haven’t scanned all of the threads.
No, moron. History and racism are two different things. History is a study of events of the past, with the more distasteful subjects generally studied by older, more mature minds. Racism on the other hand is not a logical subject driven by facts, but rather an emotional issue often taught at a young age to minds that are not prepared to make all their own decisions. To put it simply, it’s fine to learn about events in the past, such as slavery, but it’s not good to impress thought processes, like racism, on the minds of children. They don’t just come up with it on their own you know.
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A side example that may help illustrate: Black History Month. Intended to showcase that black people have had just as much of an effect on history as everyone else. What does it actually accomplish though? Kids of any other race find themselves wondering why black people are special enough to get their own month and why they don’t. It puts an unneccesary wedge in place. Instead, just teach History. When you’re on a subject such as WWII, that’s the time to mention the Tuskegee Airman, not arbitrarily in February. It’s like segregation of History. If they’d just teach things when the subject happens to be on the lesson plan normally, you don’t miss any important details, but no unneeded stressors interfere with the message. By saying “Black History Month” you imply there is some difference there that should be taken note of. And that’s not what people need to focus on.
Okay, I actually agree with this statement (and this is coming from a biracial individual)… but that has nothing to do with the meaning of this picture. In a country where we still have division of races, this picture is endearing to the fact that innocent children can share a view without the understandings of their race. and at the end of the day, when they grow up, they will still understand that they are indeed different, but the same. Each should be proud of who they are, yet too proud to think they’re better than the other. This picture symbolizes that very thing.
Well, that solves everything, then.
So long as I don’t talk to my kids about the history of racism and it’s effects on today’s society, they won’t have any questions about the KKK, neo-nazism (cue DWN’s wang), skinheads, disproportionate representation in gaols (jails for you Americans), racially based assaults and murders, incidences of racism that they witness in their every day lives, etc.
Wow, that’s so easy!!! Just ignore it and it goes away!!!
Thanks, Sigh. I thought it was more complicated up to now. I was making parenting so much harder than it needs to be.
Not at all what I said, but thanks for intentionally misinterpreting it.
Hey, you said at 8:15 you were done. Put your sock down and STAY done, already.
My wang finds this entire thread silly. We learn the past so as not to repeat it. We can teach kids that yes there are differences and in a different age, we were ignorant enough to let those difference divide us. My wang simply states that we should learn the past to understand the why of our present and the how of our future.
Learn your history so you know why it is important that we are together now. Lest my wang find you in contempt and I promise you, he is intimidating in an old British Judge Wig!!!
That’s one smart Peter.
Once again, I am in awe of a wang!!
Starting a post with “moron” pretty much invalidates anything you have to say.
Good point! Sounds like grown-ups speaking on Charlie Brown tv shows.
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Example: Jules, you moron! WONK-WONK-WONK..WONK-WONK!
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Wow, it works! Tho I typed it myself, I can’t read it now!
in some cases yes
Ignoring racism and pretending it doesn’t exist will not make it go away.
Nor is does pointing out things that are good and right promoting racism.
I got called the n-word for the very first time in freakin’ Kindergarten. Thank gods my parents had actually talked to me and my brothers about how to handle people who say racist things to us. Even still I came home in tears and I remember to this day just how horrible that felt. Please tell me exactly how ignoring racism would have stopped the 5 year old who called me that word. Are you seriously saying that this kid learned the n-word because his parents kept pointing out all the non-racist shit going on around them?
And for frak’s sake, it is a white kid and a black kid sharing a poster at a rally for the first African American president-elect. Seriously, people aren’t supposed to point out the frakin’ obvious? I think the coolness in the pictures is in the sharing and the bringing together of two kids and their fathers. But, it is impossible not to notice that they happen to be of different races. And isn’t that kinda all symbolic and crap on top of what is otherwise an ordinary act of kindness?
I think you mean “get a grip” not “get a gripe”.
Yeah, we should get a gripe. You’re a good example for us all.
I love the “we’re only haters because you started it first!” playground logic you try to use. Predicating the end of your jerkish behavior on never perceiving yourself to be slighted in anyway is a feeble attempt at excusing for your nasty demeanor, but it doesn’t hold water.
Reminds me of the Onion vox populi quote: “If black people keep acting like animals every time we treat them like animals, racists like me will never respect them.”
Additionally, the politics of hate you’re referring to got a good start in the 60s when every liberal was a “commie” and really caught steam in the 80s when the new Conservatives managed the identity politics coup of getting even the word “liberal” to sound evil and malignant.
Moral high ground–not yours.
Well, you’re no lightening up any, you hypocrite…
Get a gripe? Looks like you beat us to it. Go back to your trash can, Oscar.
SUCH ADORABLE LITTLE CHILDREN.
Right after they steal money out of your wallet and use it to buy $20 of candy.
Then they are not so cute anymore.
Also I agree with fxquant. This was definitely staged.
Because in real life, somebody would have dropped the sign and then they’d be fighting over whose fault it was.
And I would laugh hysterically.
Because you’re an ass.
…Ouch. I just got called an ass. On TEH INTERWEBZ. I find myself flattered.
(btw: It’s called a JOKE. Learn to get a grip.)
((Unless you were joking too. In which case…lulz.))
Though not an Obama supporter, this picture(s) is pretty darn cute.
Pictures like these are why i still have hope for humanity. We can learn a lot from innocence…
Little does he know his brother was killed in a partial birth abortion.
That kind of innocence?
Oh look, another ass.
Ethana2 do you do this in all the conversations you join? Try to make it all about your agenda? Your comments do not pertain to the pic nor are they an appropriate response to Linkinbassist. Go be a troll somewhere else.
Epic red herring fail.
[Citation needed.]
Pathetic troll is pathetic.
Eric, my dear, you are on a troll-roll! X)
Strawman much?
Not as much as the recent GOP ticket, but the night is young…
You know, science can tell you a lot of things these days. Maybe the parents knew that kid was going to grow up to be like you.
And then they aborted the little sucker right quick.
FTW!
WTF is up with that? Out trolling the troll? Yeah, never understood THAT logic.
That’s a pretty horrible thing to say on so many levels. I can’t help but notice the hypocrisy when people are all like “Oh, this picture is so cute and symbolic and a positive thing” (which is most definitely is) but then turn around and say things like this or, as Rhoro does endorse such a horrid statement by saying “FTW!”.
What Ethana2 said was bad, but Rvo’s response isn’t any better. I’m baffled how some of you can be all “unity, positivity, etc” in one breath and turn around and be so hateful in the next.
Gotta love teh internets…
You want us to sit back and tolerate trolls, treating them gently, so as not to hurt feelings? Sux for you that we shout back sometimes, Sock.
And how’s that working for you?
Good to see you grasp the concept of taking the “High Road”.
Sometimes, to fight the devil, you have to climb in to the pit and grab that sucker by the tail… OK, it’s a Nietzsche deal, but someone has to do it…
There’s that quote about wrestling with pigs…
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Either way, if I want to deal with socks, I’ll do my d*mn laundry!
Wrestling pigs is fun… 6 boobies and an 8 inch tongue…. hmmmm
I agree. It would be better to make abortion a crime. History clearly shows that making something illegal will absolutely prevent people from doing it Making a substance or practice illegal NEVER pushes it to the black market and organized crime due to the sudden increase in profitability… /sarcasm
Abortions are currently performed by licensed medical professionals under sanitary conditions, are regulated, and are generally very low risk for the mother. I understand many people see this as murdering children.
Black Market abortions will be performed by anyone with a scalpal in un-sanitary conditions, with no regulation, supervision, or emergency care available, and will be highly dangerous for both the mother and child. Is it better for both the mother and the child to die?
Abortion is tragic. This I agree. Making it illegal will not prevent it from occuring, it will simply make otherwise innocent people criminals and increase the danger for both mother and child.
Yay for logic!
I don’t know how many times I’ve tried to explain that to the self-righteous. I’m glad someone else share my logic.
When continually heckled by a protester using the phrase,”What about abortion?”, Gough Whitlam (an ex Prime Minister of Australia, who was unashamedly socialist) replied,”In your case, I’m willing to make it retrospective!”
…….and where did you pull that from?
common! cut the negative crap. . . this is supposed to be FUN! isn’t it?
OK, I saw this live at the Obama rally in Manassas, VA on 11/3. It was near impossible to get good pictures of it because of the ridiculously bright floodlight that was being shone on the crowd. I tried to get a shot of this, as I was about 50 feet away from these kids. The kids were both holding up signs at one point, then they started exchanging them. The last picture may have been slightly staged, but so what? It is still a pretty amazing moment. And for the idiots going on about the hand signals – they were peace signs. The person who caught the picture must have gotten it on an off moment or at a strange angle. I have no idea who these kids were…but, for the record, the schools were closed the next day, so what is the big deal about parents wanting to take their kids to a big rally the night before election day? I think it is a great civics lesson.
I guess I better never show you people the pictures of my daughter on election day holding up my sign from this same rally – she asked to hold it and the moment was too cool not to capture on film. My daughter is 2.5 and she talks about Obama more than I do – she kisses his picture in the paper (and I have NEVER done this). She may not know about his politics, but she certainly was not coerced into being his fan!
Cute! I’d love to see the pictures. I wouldn’t recommend posting them here though, the trolls might go crazy.
I love this picture.
While people may say this is cute i kind of have to agree with the poster that said dont drag your kids into politics. The concept of the kids sharing is nice but i doubt those kids have any idea what the sign means. I dont think its right to involve your kids in politics unless you describe both sides of the arguement. And i hardly doubt these kids are old enough to understand abortion, the economy, the war, etc. Leave the kids at home or dont use them to push ur own beliefs.
no offense, but, how the heck do you think religious groups grow?
Bingooooooooooo.
I was going to say something along these lines earlier, but didn’t want to start a war. Indoctrinating kids into your own religion is pushing your beliefs much ore than is political philosophy. Provided you teach your kids enough critical thinking, they’ll either accept or reject any of their parents’ belief systems based on their own experience. Exposing them to the things you hold important is ok, as long as you also allow them to think for themselves.
why does it matter? the kids can’t vote, and most likely they will go through a rebellious phase before they turn of voting age and develop there own views.
Involving your kids in politics will keep them involved as they aged. Trying to keep them to your political views as they age, that’s dumb. Getting them involved is a GOOD thing. You can’t try to keep your keeps from something their entire youth then try to tell them it’s important for all their adult lives and expect them to ever do it at all. You teach them young to follow your lead. When they grow up, they’ll apply their own views, but be more likely to follow your lead in terms of how they comport and involve themselves. You teach them that way so they learn the pattern. Where they apply the pattern will change as they grow.
Er, that was supposed to be “You can’t try to keep your kids..”
i would like to keep my keeps kthx
No backsies!
Leave my keeps out of this!
How about this parallel: Your kids don’t understand the books you read, but setting a good example by reading, and encouraging your kids to read at their levels, will encourage them to read as adults.
That was pretty much exactly the parallel I was thinking of when I wrote my response.
Glad I’m not the only one.
Why does it have to mean that these two fathers were using their kids to push their own agenda? Why does taking your kids to a political rally have to mean they’re unfortunate pawns? Why should parents leave them at home? Who are you to decide what is right for the parents to do with their kids when it comes to taking them or not taking them to a rally?
People, this is a freaking picture (well, series of pictures anyway). Speculating and pontificating about the motivations behind it is pretty ridiculous and more than likely fueled by whatever one is predisposed to think then what is actually going on.
For the record I agree that actually using kids to push any political agenda is deplorable but to claim that is what is going on with these pictures? I just fail to see how one can arrive at that conclusion.
Here’s a thought (not just directed at you), stop twisting touching pictures whose context you know nothing about to suit *your* agenda.
Puh-leeze. NO-body in my family EVER shut up about their beliefs, opinions, everything under the sun, etc. etc. etc. for two seconds. Amazingly, they managed to impart their beliefs and values to me (since they are good, loving people overall) without turning me into a brainwashed zombie. As an (?) adult, I agree with some family members about some issues, and disagree about others, pretty much as anyone would in any random group of people. Sharing your values with your children — and it’s not as though you could completely avoid it, anyway — is not the same as using or brainwashing them.
I was a little distracted reading that, why the “(?)”?
I was facetiously implying that it’s questionable that I’m an actual adult.
Ah ok, thought that might be the case, but I wasn’t sure. I guess we’re all just toys-r-us kids.
Agreed. And taking them to a rally isn’t going to invoke brainwashing either. You mean to tell me that these kids are now going around discussing tax and foreign policies over milk and cookies?
FTW!!!
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Change we’ve needed for a very long time. Nothing says it better.
Hey folks – we on the left get it. You’d rather we didn’t vote at all so your bullies can further tear down the Constitution. Have you heard the latest about Bush giving local police the freedom to look at EVERYONE as a terrorist, to check us out without any kind of warrant, and to put ANYONE on the list?
FCS, like it or not, this was witnessing history being made. Do you even know what Obama said? No mccain/palin hate/fear-mongering speeches either. The kids saw nothing traumatic like fights on the ice in hockey, brawls in baseball, and unnecessary violence in football. Nor were they witnessing the overt sexuality and violence that is readily on the TV.
I was indoctrinated as a ‘proper’ Republican and ‘Bible-thumpin’ Christian all through my childhood and followed the family tradition for the first 15 yrs or so of my adult life. Then I travelled, married, had kids of my own and thankfully saw beyond the narrow scope of both beliefs.
Now as Left-leaning Independent and part of the Christian Left, our agenda is to help people down in the trenches. We hate the war but love the troops, our causes reflect that sentiment and we usually don’t see ‘elitiest’ neo-cons down there willing to get their hands dirty.
50 years ago, a photo like this could not have been taken. Yes, we can!
50 years? Hell, 1967 it would have been a problem
Benjamin Franklin said this:
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Amen and Amen.
Yes we can!
That can be taken a few different ways depending on your perspective
The same way that the same arguments were used on both sides to make different points before the election, that particular quote can be seen differently based on your world view. Personally, I think having to give up my right to the pursuit of happiness by using my hard-earned money to obtain said happiness is pretty crappy, but others view it differently. If the rumors are true and Obama wants to instate a private millitary force that consists of young men and women in state-issued uniforms (I’m aware of the mixing of descriptions here, bear with me) who are in compulsary service if they want to go to college is a giving up of essential liberty. And I see that particular idea heading in a very scary direction.
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You can paste that quote directly above a Muslim person’s house and it will apply, especially one who has been unfairly hassled at the airport.
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Further, you can paste that quote above every card-carrying NRA member’s house and it will still apply.
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Different views, different takes on the same quote.
So, where do the Brown shirt rumours come from?
Fox News, natch.
Possibly… I’d not jump to that conclusion this time, despite the source of the FUD.
I’m not clear on why some right-wingers still feel compelled to throw scare tactics into the mix. We’re not going to un-elect Obama, after all. RATINGS???
some people only understand fear. It’s not hard to grasp.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: The only thing they have to fear is *lack of* fear, itself!
Why do you think religious movement have hell?
FTW! Huzzah!
froofrou, the rumors are right-wing scare tactics. Obama has said nothing of the sort, and it wouldn’t fly, even if that were his spooky-secret intent, anyway. I mean, think about it: His program of free college for community service has been blown into a compulsary militia, complete with commie uniforms? C’mon: You’re smarter than that!
Check out Fester’s link in the posts below. He did say it, but he has not brought it back up. Now, whether that means that he has scrapped the idea or is just keeping it under wraps remains to be seen.
) bring up things about Palin, McCain, Bush, Cheney, and everyone else on the right who cause you concern.
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I’ve said that I’ll give the man a chance to screw it up before I condemn him, and I mean it. But allow me a little nervousness about some of the things (ok, a lot of the things) he has said in the past. I’ve a right to take pause and bring up things said in the past that strike me as odd, strange, or just plain dumb, the same way that you guys on the left (with all the love in the world
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Everyone says things they don’t mean in order to get elected. But what he said before he wanted to get elected is what makes me wonder.
Okay, froofrou, I see what you mean. I have already seen Unc’s link, but didn’t hear Obama say anything about goosestepping or brown uniforms. I wish you weren’t so nervous, but, in fairness, I was nervous four years ago, and I was (sadly) correct to be.
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To allay (sp?) your fears a little, think about what the odds are that the lefties would get behind anything that takes on military hues. You know we’re all a bunch of naive, unwashed hippies, right? (meant for a laugh) Can you imagine a bunch of us getting up, dressed, and on jogs at 5:00 a.m.? I better stop this line of thought, or my head will asplode.
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BTW, aren’t Republicans all about a strong national defense force? Is the Patriot Act not as scary in Bush’s hands than Obama’s?
Strong national defense, sure, but not a privately funded military that smacks of (ack!) censorship. I just have visions in my fevered little brain of sitting somewhere talking with my friends, making a careless statement about how I think that Obama could be less of an idiot, and the next thing I know I’m on my face in the dirt with my hands zip tied behind me and a knee on my neck.
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Now I realize that’s way over the top, but us uptight Bible-thumping Repbs (to counter your unwashed hippies, hehe) do NOT WANT that type of privatized military control. Call me a hypocrit all you want for wanting to socialize the military, but a private force of college kids roaming around with uniforms and billy clubs just so they can go to college is a little much. They haze like crazy in college. Can you imagine some elitist twit with a billy club and powers granted by the President???????? *rumaging for duct tape to tape head so the pieces won’t be lost when it explodes*
Under wraps? Fer god’s sake… it’s there, it’s down to the individual to make their mind up as to what it means… Reading more, I think the ‘Brown Shirts’ analogy is over stating it. Thus what’s to discuss here? … it’s not appropriate to the main picture and guessing is reading goat entrails, just without the reliability
I’ve noticed you seem to enjoy paranoia and fear… I suggest you live it up. I’ve already said I wouldn’t put it past any politico to do that crap, but I don’t see it’s much different to the Homeland Security ‘Rat a neighbour’ scheme… Certainly no more scary.
found one source (linked under my name… I’ve not found my usual two additional independent sources since there’s the you tube of the original broadcast…)
OK frou… you’re right to be concerned until it’s resolved. My question would be who their allegiance is to…
Something being neglected, who is there to hate? The Nazis had the Jews, The Disabled, the Slavs and the Gypsies. Homeland Security had ‘Terrorists under the bed’, and tried to encourage people to rat out neighbours and family they suspected… All well and good having the Brown Shirts, but without a decent (and easily popular) hate target, it’s a bit toothless (running the Goebbels play book here, since it’s reliable) I add the ‘easily popular’ clause since the Nazi’s distaste for the disabled laid an egg such that their extermination plan had to be run under the disguise of ‘medical treatment’…
Uh oh, where’s DWN?
My wang was on a break. He can only dick with Nazis so many times a day.
Wuss
Oh noes!! Now you’ve done it! *Hugs Uncle Fester* Nice knowing you!
I don’t like to disagree with you, but I don’t think froofrou is right to be scared. Obama is just saying that we need a powerful national security force, and it should be as strong as a military force, but NOT military. The state-issued uniform business in the rumor really puts a McCarthian spin on the subject, so naturally my eyes are rolling.
She understands that though
and as an addendum. There isn’t an evil I wouldn’t put past anyone with the will to lead.
Did you take a happy pill today? Are we agreeing?
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I do agree with you, though. Those in power tend to get corrupted absolutely, and with the House, Senate, and White House all swinging Democrat, and most likely the next appointees to the Supreme Court appointed Dem as well, the balance has shifted in what could be a very scary way. No one needs the authority to be God, as Obama will have when all checks and balances are no longer in place because they are all firmly in his camp. You need dissent, and I’m not talking about a tiny minority in Congress who can’t do anything but stomp their feet in anger if something gets passed. Thank goodness that the fillibuster-proof majority didn’t work out.
You mean unlike the way the Reps stacked the Supreme court? Or wasn’t that ‘corrupt’? God’s teeth… are you really so damned naive, or do you have to work at it. Dissent maybe existed in the 90s but for the past 8 years there have been fewer checks and balances than previously seen.
And simply because a broken clock is ‘right’ twice a day doesn’t make it useful
The entire system is corrupt and broken. The system of checks and balances hasn’t worked correctly in years. More years than I’ve been alive, to be honest. There needs to be sweeping changes in Washington that won’t happen until the entire system collapses under its own weight and we have to pick up the pieces and rebuild.
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As far as paranoia and fear on my part, when I look at history I see that every majoy civilization has come crashing down at one point or another. There is a life-span on these things that can’t really be extended. The Mayans, the Native Americans, the Chinese, the Russians, the Holy ROman Empire…..all of these civilizations at one point ‘ruled the world’, and all of them eventually failed. Some of them are back on the upswing again because history is cyclical in nature and tends to come back around to the way things were (or a variation thereof). I’m pretty sure we’re on our way out as the ‘leaders of the free world’. I just hope we don’t go down as hard as some of the other civilizations in history.
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Don’t flame me. I don’t think we’re going back to living in huts and using horses and carts to get around (no matter what Greenpeace wants us to do). But I think our days of being the big mean kid on the block are numbered. Now, whether we go down under our own weight, or whether some other nation just takes us over remains to be seen (I’m not talking militarily either, I just mean takes over as in controlling trade, giving us money, that sort of thing…..China seems the best bet since they’re already doing that now), but it will happen. It’s just a matter of WHEN. If that’s paranoia then ok. I don’t think it is. I think it’s being a realist based on the histories of other nations and the track we’ve been taking over the last 100 years or so.
A valid argument here. I’m just curious what 2012 will have in store for us and exactly what caused the Mayans to end their calendar there.
I really have to wonder whether the right wing bloviators stoking froofrou’s worry are massively distorting Obama’s plan to triple the size of the AmeriCorps service program and similarly expand the Peace Corps. A lot of the talk about expanding AmeriCorps has been focused on creating a civilian disaster-response organization to make up for the government’s post-Katrina failures, and the Peace Corps’ efforts to improve living conditions in sensitive areas of the world could do more to advance US diplomatic objectives than any number of fully outfitted brigades. That is to say, civilian service organizations could contribute massively to domestic and international security.
Hmmmmm.
How to brainwash your children 101.
How to be a cretin – Master Class
Yes; good, good. [matches fingers together a la Mr. Burns] Fresh victims for our army of commie-pinko-socialist minions. Soon we will take away the billionaires’ heliports and give them to welfare mothers to sell for crack, wuhahahahaha!!
LMAO–Tessie, I lubz it when you can haz too much coffeez!
That was awesome. Thanks for posting this photo series.
These little guys obviously don’t know a Democrat from a Republican. What they hopefully will take away is that an African American can become President. It’s historic and a valuable lesson for both of them. Their sharing of a sign makes it even sweeter. There will always be the naysayer “Mr. Potters” in the world. But like mean old Dick Cheney they will soon fade away.
“These little guys obviously don’t know a Democrat from a Republican.”
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Why “obviously”?
Sharing is caring. When they’re 18, they’ll have learned enough to make their own decisions, hopefully.
For now, it’s cute. End.
My impression is the one boy wanted to share with the other boy and the parents were so touched or impressed they asked them to pose for the last picture.
It’s special that two boys shared, embodying people coming together just as Obama is a result of two individuals who defied wrong stigmatism about the other’s culture. Perhaps soon America will truly become multicultural and less about people picking partners who match the shade of your skin.
People and their prejudice. Surprised someone hasn’t complained about why the boy didn’t share with a girl and how the ‘good ol’ boys club’ oppresses women. -_-
hooray for sharing! i actually got a little misty eyed
To the folks upstream who were complaining about people using their kids to further their own political agenda, I have two words for you: Sarah Palin. She pimped the kids out at every opportunity.
ZING!!!!
Is there an echo in here?
Is there an echo in here?
That’s just too goddamn adorable for words.
This is what I call spreading the wealth.
They shared. It’s cute, and it shows the unity this election season has created. Even after an intense primary, the Democrats pulled together, and made history in the process. It doesn’t matter that the kids probably don’t know all that much about politics.
Look at it this way: a white kid is sharing his sign with a black kid. This sort of picture, many years ago, would have been impossible to find.
I think it’s a great display of the progress toward unity we have made in this country.
And to those of you accusing the parents of using the kids: kids like sitting on daddy’s shoulders, and kids like holding signs. More likely than not, the kid asked for it. I remember one time when I was little I held a sign advertising a radio station I had never heard of. It didn’t matter, kids just like that sort of thing. It’s all about being part of things.
That’s adorable!
Bottom line is: people are coming together for a common goal. In the process, by their examples, they are teaching their children not to hate one another for being different. It’s adorable, cute, intelligent, whatever adjective you want to use but it’s good. I’ll bet the people who bitched about this kick kittens and puppies for fun too!
Oops, forgot the joke part. FAIL
Well, that was a satellite up-link sort of delay… probably via one of the Voyagers.
why are people making such a big deal about this. its not like theyre giving them porn
Just plain AWESOME!
Sharing is good. And this is super cute. I love it.
Here’s an idea….
Instead of flaming each other in the comments, why not just appreciate a cool picture when you see one?
Awesome! And also…. so cute! I love this!
Doin’ it right? I’m not so sure…the whole “vote for socialism” thing isn’t quite right in my mind…is there something wrong with me for that?
Bravo! We could all learn a lot from those two kids in just these four little pictures. Makes me smile
Impeach Obama!
this is so cute.
A definite Win!
Makes me all warm and fuzzy