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	<title>Comments on: Kick me&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...

Anyway, back to the pic...

Don&#039;t tempt me. I&#039;d kick him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the pic&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t tempt me. I&#8217;d kick him.</p>
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		<title>By: Airigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Airigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto.

XD I laugh as soon as I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto.</p>
<p>XD I laugh as soon as I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ennauriel</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-70786</link>
		<dc:creator>Ennauriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahaha! This made me laugh more than it should have. Win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahaha! This made me laugh more than it should have. Win.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously man, that&#039;s just mean-spirited</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously man, that&#8217;s just mean-spirited</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-69531</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steady... you&#039;ll get Madam &#039;Kill em all! God&#039;ll sort them out&#039; crawling up your arse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steady&#8230; you&#8217;ll get Madam &#8216;Kill em all! God&#8217;ll sort them out&#8217; crawling up your arse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<dc:creator>jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about that.  My father may have brainwashed me a bit, but the Clinton administration had a laundry list of things they were accused of being involved in including witness tampering and a pretty hefty body count.  Kathleen Willey might tell you about some of it but she may be too preoccupied looking for her cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about that.  My father may have brainwashed me a bit, but the Clinton administration had a laundry list of things they were accused of being involved in including witness tampering and a pretty hefty body count.  Kathleen Willey might tell you about some of it but she may be too preoccupied looking for her cat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This picture pretty much describes the entire Internet.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fitzhenry</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-69159</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fitzhenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The principle behind NCLB is good. The way it is implemented is terrible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The principle behind NCLB is good. The way it is implemented is terrible</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fitzhenry</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-69154</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fitzhenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unwanted children grow up to be drains on society&quot;
Pretty bold statement. I am 18 years old. My mother and father, are 35. Do some simple math. My parents understood that it is not their right to decide whether or not a child lives, and they would raise me no matter what. My dad joined the Navy right after graduation in order to support me and my mom. 

I am now here at Texas A&amp;M University pursuing a degree in Biomedical Sciences. Am I a drain on society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unwanted children grow up to be drains on society&#8221;<br />
Pretty bold statement. I am 18 years old. My mother and father, are 35. Do some simple math. My parents understood that it is not their right to decide whether or not a child lives, and they would raise me no matter what. My dad joined the Navy right after graduation in order to support me and my mom. </p>
<p>I am now here at Texas A&amp;M University pursuing a degree in Biomedical Sciences. Am I a drain on society?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fitzhenry</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-69138</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fitzhenry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Rush Limbaugh is a ranting moron</description>
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		<title>By: Danbala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danbala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be &quot;do not regret it AT all&quot;. Writing posts in this forum is a real pain in the arse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be &#8220;do not regret it AT all&#8221;. Writing posts in this forum is a real pain in the arse.</p>
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		<title>By: Danbala</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68934</link>
		<dc:creator>Danbala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lastly most women regret having the abortion, there have been many cases of psychological damage done after abortion, I see it hurt more women then help.&quot;

My personal experience is quite the opposite. Most women do not regret it all,. I don&#039;t have any statistics to point at, this is simply my own observation. Interesting difference, anyway. Maybe we are both right and there is a big difference between how it is handled in different countries? The ones I have heard here who have felt uncomfortable have been uncomfortable about not being more uncomfortable, because people around them had the idea that they _should_ be devastated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lastly most women regret having the abortion, there have been many cases of psychological damage done after abortion, I see it hurt more women then help.&#8221;</p>
<p>My personal experience is quite the opposite. Most women do not regret it all,. I don&#8217;t have any statistics to point at, this is simply my own observation. Interesting difference, anyway. Maybe we are both right and there is a big difference between how it is handled in different countries? The ones I have heard here who have felt uncomfortable have been uncomfortable about not being more uncomfortable, because people around them had the idea that they _should_ be devastated.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To invoke &#039;Christian&#039; law is dicey ground. Jesus was silent on the matter of revoking the Mosaic law that more or less places a value on a child&#039;s life only after it&#039;s born. 

I&#039;m attacking nauseous sentimentality with no dealing the reality. Want a ban, fine... provide a decent end to end solution, or deal with something you personally don&#039;t like and have little right to judge. I don&#039;t get off on the idea myself, but I don&#039;t have a better solution. 

Also the &quot;Lastly most women regret having the abortion, there have been many cases of psychological damage done after abortion, I see it hurt more women then help.&quot; is only your experience. I&#039;ve never known anyone skip into a clinic singing &#039;Sweet Mystery of Life&#039;, but by the same token, I&#039;ve seen numerous women completely screwed up and wishing they&#039;d terminated when there was the option. And there&#039;s now a second person being screwed up by the decision. The coin has two sides. I know both. 
I just get very, very tired of semi-judgemental glurge based on  sentiment rather than the reality of the seriously unwanted child.

judge this...

• Eight broken ribs and a broken back, with another area of bleeding around the spine at neck level.

• Numerous bruises, cuts and abrasions, including a deep tear to his left ear lobe, which had been pulled away from his head.

• Severe lacerations to the top of his head, including a large gouge which could have been caused by a dog bite.

• Blackened finger- and toenails, with several nails missing; the middle finger of his right hand was without a nail and its tip was also missing, as if it had been sliced off.

• A tear to his fraenulum, the strip of skin between the middle of the upper lip and the gum, which had partially healed.

• One of his front teeth had also been knocked out and was found in his colon. He had swallowed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To invoke &#8216;Christian&#8217; law is dicey ground. Jesus was silent on the matter of revoking the Mosaic law that more or less places a value on a child&#8217;s life only after it&#8217;s born. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m attacking nauseous sentimentality with no dealing the reality. Want a ban, fine&#8230; provide a decent end to end solution, or deal with something you personally don&#8217;t like and have little right to judge. I don&#8217;t get off on the idea myself, but I don&#8217;t have a better solution. </p>
<p>Also the &#8220;Lastly most women regret having the abortion, there have been many cases of psychological damage done after abortion, I see it hurt more women then help.&#8221; is only your experience. I&#8217;ve never known anyone skip into a clinic singing &#8216;Sweet Mystery of Life&#8217;, but by the same token, I&#8217;ve seen numerous women completely screwed up and wishing they&#8217;d terminated when there was the option. And there&#8217;s now a second person being screwed up by the decision. The coin has two sides. I know both.<br />
I just get very, very tired of semi-judgemental glurge based on  sentiment rather than the reality of the seriously unwanted child.</p>
<p>judge this&#8230;</p>
<p>• Eight broken ribs and a broken back, with another area of bleeding around the spine at neck level.</p>
<p>• Numerous bruises, cuts and abrasions, including a deep tear to his left ear lobe, which had been pulled away from his head.</p>
<p>• Severe lacerations to the top of his head, including a large gouge which could have been caused by a dog bite.</p>
<p>• Blackened finger- and toenails, with several nails missing; the middle finger of his right hand was without a nail and its tip was also missing, as if it had been sliced off.</p>
<p>• A tear to his fraenulum, the strip of skin between the middle of the upper lip and the gum, which had partially healed.</p>
<p>• One of his front teeth had also been knocked out and was found in his colon. He had swallowed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do. I just feel that any step was good for this city, now it needs to change by moving forward instead of taking things away in reference to the school district.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do. I just feel that any step was good for this city, now it needs to change by moving forward instead of taking things away in reference to the school district.</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68840</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lack of evidence does not prove the evidence give to be true, simple as that, you can&#039;t exactly prove that the violent crime correlates to that with any evidence save the timeline which isn&#039;t hard evidence at all. I don&#039;t have to bring up another example, I&#039;m not arguing why violent crime went up.

I can see how you are frustrated with this issue, I&#039;ve met people like that as well and there is very little point in talking with them. I consider myself on there side (I say that VERY loosely) and they&#039;ve attacked me.

Went I went into the abortion argument, I didn&#039;t clarify that while I do&#039;nt like the morning after pill there is VERY little anyone can do to regulate it so it&#039;s quite the moot point, but first trimester still is something I disagree with, children are a soft spot for me. Secondly being that I adhere to christian law I can&#039;t endorse anyone that is going to say that all this is okay. 

You&#039;re attacking so there is VERY little I can do to discuss this with you. Part of the problem is not teaching kids sex education at a younger age, they don&#039;t understand the pregnancy issues and that is where most of the abortions are desired. Everything else is with adults educated and no one should have and abortion because it is “convenient” because that it is irresponsible. I’ve begrudgingly heard well thought out arguments, and one thing that seems to fail to many people is the problem that there is a difference between killing and murder. 

I can understand health and psych issues but people should get that checked out BEFORE they have a child, not during and say “whoops, abort it cause I messed up”. Lastly most women regret having the abortion, there have been many cases of psychological damage done after abortion, I see it hurt more women then help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lack of evidence does not prove the evidence give to be true, simple as that, you can&#8217;t exactly prove that the violent crime correlates to that with any evidence save the timeline which isn&#8217;t hard evidence at all. I don&#8217;t have to bring up another example, I&#8217;m not arguing why violent crime went up.</p>
<p>I can see how you are frustrated with this issue, I&#8217;ve met people like that as well and there is very little point in talking with them. I consider myself on there side (I say that VERY loosely) and they&#8217;ve attacked me.</p>
<p>Went I went into the abortion argument, I didn&#8217;t clarify that while I do&#8217;nt like the morning after pill there is VERY little anyone can do to regulate it so it&#8217;s quite the moot point, but first trimester still is something I disagree with, children are a soft spot for me. Secondly being that I adhere to christian law I can&#8217;t endorse anyone that is going to say that all this is okay. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re attacking so there is VERY little I can do to discuss this with you. Part of the problem is not teaching kids sex education at a younger age, they don&#8217;t understand the pregnancy issues and that is where most of the abortions are desired. Everything else is with adults educated and no one should have and abortion because it is “convenient” because that it is irresponsible. I’ve begrudgingly heard well thought out arguments, and one thing that seems to fail to many people is the problem that there is a difference between killing and murder. </p>
<p>I can understand health and psych issues but people should get that checked out BEFORE they have a child, not during and say “whoops, abort it cause I messed up”. Lastly most women regret having the abortion, there have been many cases of psychological damage done after abortion, I see it hurt more women then help.</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know anything about an $800 toilet seat, I was in middle school during most of those times so yeah lol, no chance of me knowing to much about the clinton era save what my parents tell me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know anything about an $800 toilet seat, I was in middle school during most of those times so yeah lol, no chance of me knowing to much about the clinton era save what my parents tell me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should have said USSR held a pretty big candle prior to that...
complete sentences FAIL. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>should have said USSR held a pretty big candle prior to that&#8230;<br />
complete sentences FAIL. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mayken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, certainly for the last decade or so of the 20th and of course much of the 21st (so far) we&#039;ve been the big dog on the block. But I would say the USSR held a pretty big candle too. China and Russia are now making a pretty good stab at taking their freak shows out for a walk in the park too. 
But yeah, ultimately right now we are the big dog so everyone got their eye on us. Still not sure we&#039;re more-freaky-than-thou, just that our freakiness is large in scope and effect. heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, certainly for the last decade or so of the 20th and of course much of the 21st (so far) we&#8217;ve been the big dog on the block. But I would say the USSR held a pretty big candle too. China and Russia are now making a pretty good stab at taking their freak shows out for a walk in the park too.<br />
But yeah, ultimately right now we are the big dog so everyone got their eye on us. Still not sure we&#8217;re more-freaky-than-thou, just that our freakiness is large in scope and effect. heh.</p>
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		<title>By: dropping in</title>
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		<dc:creator>dropping in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean the same level of civility, loyalty, and respect that the Republicans showed President Clinton since he was elected in 1992?  Please- at least Bush deserved most of the derision- his attacks were based on things that matter- not on a blow job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean the same level of civility, loyalty, and respect that the Republicans showed President Clinton since he was elected in 1992?  Please- at least Bush deserved most of the derision- his attacks were based on things that matter- not on a blow job.</p>
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		<title>By: dropping in</title>
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		<dc:creator>dropping in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you are saying- but any thoughts/comments on how I pay closer to 35%?  And that seems reasonable to me BTW- I make good money, and am single, so I can afford to pay that much.  I do get irritated when tax dollars are used to buy assets for those that were not as careful as I was and bought houses they could not afford- I still have 2 years of saving before I can have the down-payment large enough that my mortgage for the house I want will be reasonable.  Even thought I was offered that size of mortgage 2 years ago when I was making 1/2 what I do now...but I did the math- Maybe I should have bought it then, then my taxes would be buying MY asset for ME.  I want to feel the appropriate liberal empathy for these folks...but since when do taxes go to buy assets for individuals...it bugs me...any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you are saying- but any thoughts/comments on how I pay closer to 35%?  And that seems reasonable to me BTW- I make good money, and am single, so I can afford to pay that much.  I do get irritated when tax dollars are used to buy assets for those that were not as careful as I was and bought houses they could not afford- I still have 2 years of saving before I can have the down-payment large enough that my mortgage for the house I want will be reasonable.  Even thought I was offered that size of mortgage 2 years ago when I was making 1/2 what I do now&#8230;but I did the math- Maybe I should have bought it then, then my taxes would be buying MY asset for ME.  I want to feel the appropriate liberal empathy for these folks&#8230;but since when do taxes go to buy assets for individuals&#8230;it bugs me&#8230;any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: DeathWyrmNexus</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68523</link>
		<dc:creator>DeathWyrmNexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was rather impressed with that. If not a shining example, then a terrible warning.</description>
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		<title>By: DeathWyrmNexus</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeathWyrmNexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have something but I prefer if it is swallowed instead of spewed...</description>
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		<title>By: DeathWyrmNexus</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68519</link>
		<dc:creator>DeathWyrmNexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, I can always afford another sex slave/factor worker. *puffs expensive puffing thing*</description>
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		<title>By: dropping in</title>
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		<dc:creator>dropping in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caveat to 7: accept that you have made mistakes....</description>
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		<title>By: dropping in</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68514</link>
		<dc:creator>dropping in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just thinking that Bush was being a great deal more gracious than Clinton (I LOVED Clinton, but he made MANY judgment errors).  But to be fair (or give perspective, not excuses, Clinton had been the focus of a witch-hunt for 6 years that came up with a blow job, and then the election was very close, and decided in the supreme court, disenfranchising many voters (no comment about if right or wrong)- so their was a great deal of anger at the injustice being served in their perspective.  Bush ruined his own presidency, the democrats did not spend unlimited resources trying to find something, ANYTHING to indict him on- he had the highest approval ratings he could ask for after 9/11, even though that was NOT handled well in the immediate aftermath- overall he did ok to most pp (not to me, but most pp thought he did well).  He went from this to nothing because of 2 things- listening to the wrong pp, and leading a culture of group think sycophancy in his cabinet- he did not want to hear dissent- he made it uncomfortable to do so, and ignored it when it occurred- Black and White- with us or against us...so if he is able to be gracious now, (and his staff), they had a different experience is ruining their legacy than Clinton and his staff did- if Bush had been investigated more closely (which he should have been if Congress provided the oversight they should have- but it is a matter of degree from appropriate to persecution).  I am not excusing what the Clinton staff did- it was infantile and inappropriate, but they did have a very different experience with the other party in their time in the white house compared to Bush. So while not justified, it may be understandable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking that Bush was being a great deal more gracious than Clinton (I LOVED Clinton, but he made MANY judgment errors).  But to be fair (or give perspective, not excuses, Clinton had been the focus of a witch-hunt for 6 years that came up with a blow job, and then the election was very close, and decided in the supreme court, disenfranchising many voters (no comment about if right or wrong)- so their was a great deal of anger at the injustice being served in their perspective.  Bush ruined his own presidency, the democrats did not spend unlimited resources trying to find something, ANYTHING to indict him on- he had the highest approval ratings he could ask for after 9/11, even though that was NOT handled well in the immediate aftermath- overall he did ok to most pp (not to me, but most pp thought he did well).  He went from this to nothing because of 2 things- listening to the wrong pp, and leading a culture of group think sycophancy in his cabinet- he did not want to hear dissent- he made it uncomfortable to do so, and ignored it when it occurred- Black and White- with us or against us&#8230;so if he is able to be gracious now, (and his staff), they had a different experience is ruining their legacy than Clinton and his staff did- if Bush had been investigated more closely (which he should have been if Congress provided the oversight they should have- but it is a matter of degree from appropriate to persecution).  I am not excusing what the Clinton staff did- it was infantile and inappropriate, but they did have a very different experience with the other party in their time in the white house compared to Bush. So while not justified, it may be understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt11</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68508</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you have nu-cyah-lur bombs, u no kneed grammers!</description>
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		<title>By: dropping in</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68500</link>
		<dc:creator>dropping in</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw W. this weekend---sort of made me feel like he is not as bad a person as I thought- terrible leader, and while many are irritated at Stone for being soft on W., I think the portrayal actually provides some insight- he just wants daddy to love him...forgive me but he needed to work that out privately, like the rest of neurotic America...not by invaded a sovereign country.  With that said, i think he was in over his head at all times, and easily manipulated by his advisors---sounds a lot like Carter actually- except Carter was more intelligent- they both ruined the potential of their presidencies by listening to and empowering the wrong pp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw W. this weekend&#8212;sort of made me feel like he is not as bad a person as I thought- terrible leader, and while many are irritated at Stone for being soft on W., I think the portrayal actually provides some insight- he just wants daddy to love him&#8230;forgive me but he needed to work that out privately, like the rest of neurotic America&#8230;not by invaded a sovereign country.  With that said, i think he was in over his head at all times, and easily manipulated by his advisors&#8212;sounds a lot like Carter actually- except Carter was more intelligent- they both ruined the potential of their presidencies by listening to and empowering the wrong pp.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mock people for not knowing what the Laffer curve is, it&#039;s not exactly common knowledge. The rest of your post is spot on, though.</description>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worse than snake oil. Their philosophy is an apologia for power, greed, and inequality. It is an affirmation of social Darwinist thinking. It makes selfishness a virtue, sharing an aberration, and money a God. It has also been proven to have reached false conclusions based on false premises. People are not inherently greedy and selfish, quite the contrary, most non-sociopaths are driven more by notions of fairness and reciprocity than by self-interest. Only when people inhabit a system that rewards selfishness and punishes cooperation do they become selfish, out of necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worse than snake oil. Their philosophy is an apologia for power, greed, and inequality. It is an affirmation of social Darwinist thinking. It makes selfishness a virtue, sharing an aberration, and money a God. It has also been proven to have reached false conclusions based on false premises. People are not inherently greedy and selfish, quite the contrary, most non-sociopaths are driven more by notions of fairness and reciprocity than by self-interest. Only when people inhabit a system that rewards selfishness and punishes cooperation do they become selfish, out of necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68426</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah right... Gore Vidal was saying he&#039;d like to know his ideas on anything...</description>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68422</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and he&#039;s not given my a big naked greasy hug like I wanted... he could have gone on top and everything....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and he&#8217;s not given my a big naked greasy hug like I wanted&#8230; he could have gone on top and everything&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68417</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if they&#039;re not in Leonardo Di Caprio class...</description>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68404</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your last bit of data over the correlation between Roe v. Wade and reduction in violent crime is extremely debatable.&quot;

Prove it, you who didn&#039;t know what the Lafler curve was... One thing I leardnfrom my days researching positive feedback mechanisms in markets is that one can&#039;t really predict with any certainty, over even a medium short term, how a societal fashion will affect any other metric in that society. 

And, here in the Old Country, the least common form of abortion is partial birth/third trimester, despite it being legal. Generally, the &#039;OMFG I don&#039;t WANT a baby&#039; brigade are in the &#039;morning after pill&#039;/1st trimester scale (and really people with that reaction probably are wise to not have children), the remainder being health and psych issues and spread more evenly.

TBH, anyone pulling the &#039;OMG Teh Innocents!!!!1111eleventy-onewww!!&#039; style argument need to pull it together and think from their goddamned neck UP. and come up with a socially cohesive plan that deals with all aspects of the root causes, not just pull up pictures of foetus road kill (that are usually inthe gross pathology end of foetal development to anyone who has looked at the matter of foetal development even as desultory fashion as I have)
 and wail &quot;The Horror... The Horror!&quot; ATM, unless you have better answers than &#039;I don&#039;t approve&#039; you&#039;re a part of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your last bit of data over the correlation between Roe v. Wade and reduction in violent crime is extremely debatable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Prove it, you who didn&#8217;t know what the Lafler curve was&#8230; One thing I leardnfrom my days researching positive feedback mechanisms in markets is that one can&#8217;t really predict with any certainty, over even a medium short term, how a societal fashion will affect any other metric in that society. </p>
<p>And, here in the Old Country, the least common form of abortion is partial birth/third trimester, despite it being legal. Generally, the &#8216;OMFG I don&#8217;t WANT a baby&#8217; brigade are in the &#8216;morning after pill&#8217;/1st trimester scale (and really people with that reaction probably are wise to not have children), the remainder being health and psych issues and spread more evenly.</p>
<p>TBH, anyone pulling the &#8216;OMG Teh Innocents!!!!1111eleventy-onewww!!&#8217; style argument need to pull it together and think from their goddamned neck UP. and come up with a socially cohesive plan that deals with all aspects of the root causes, not just pull up pictures of foetus road kill (that are usually inthe gross pathology end of foetal development to anyone who has looked at the matter of foetal development even as desultory fashion as I have)<br />
 and wail &#8220;The Horror&#8230; The Horror!&#8221; ATM, unless you have better answers than &#8216;I don&#8217;t approve&#8217; you&#8217;re a part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: FaileV</title>
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		<dc:creator>FaileV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A solution that on the whole causes more problems than it fixes is not a solution. NCLB may have helped in a few places, but it was severely detrimental in many other places. 
It&#039;s good your schools benefitted, but surely you agree we must press forward and find a solution that benefits everyone and doesn&#039;t hurt so many people that did not have the luck your schools did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solution that on the whole causes more problems than it fixes is not a solution. NCLB may have helped in a few places, but it was severely detrimental in many other places.<br />
It&#8217;s good your schools benefitted, but surely you agree we must press forward and find a solution that benefits everyone and doesn&#8217;t hurt so many people that did not have the luck your schools did.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Fester</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68374</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Fester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah, the Austrian School... Mostly economics is Voodoo, but theirs was snake oil</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin loves Joe the Plumber</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68358</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin loves Joe the Plumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s why you vote. I find it amusing that gays can&#039;t legally marry but abortion is legal, war is legal.</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin loves Joe the Plumber</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68351</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin loves Joe the Plumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you hear that Rush Limbaugh was complaining that Obama had YET to do anything about the economy? :/</description>
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		<title>By: Sarah Palin loves Joe the Plumber</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68348</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Palin loves Joe the Plumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;m sure we&#039;ll have plenty of chances to make fun of the GOP.</description>
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		<title>By: Tessie</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68292</link>
		<dc:creator>Tessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[sound of crickets chirping]

[muffled cough in background]</description>
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		<title>By: Tessie</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68290</link>
		<dc:creator>Tessie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[locomotive cheer]

I bow to Seth, the master.</description>
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<p>I bow to Seth, the master.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correlation is not causation, sure, I agree. There could be many reasons for the drop in crime, but I haven&#039;t heard any other good theories that explain the correlation, have you?</description>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68269</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your last bit of data over the correlation between Roe v. Wade and reduction in violent crime is extremely debatable.</description>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68266</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the argument should start at the definition between killing and murder as to which I feel there is a HUGE difference.</description>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68262</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, everyone agreed that the end of the Cold War would mean a smaller military. But Clinton did more than &#039;gouge the military,&#039; he cut waste in the military and in all other areas of government. Remember the $800 toilet seat? Was getting rid of things like that what you call gouging, or what you call getting rid of pork barrel spending?
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The bad thing that Clinton did to the military was outsourcing so much of the operational aspects. Well, he started it and Bush took it to it&#039;s illogical conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, everyone agreed that the end of the Cold War would mean a smaller military. But Clinton did more than &#8216;gouge the military,&#8217; he cut waste in the military and in all other areas of government. Remember the $800 toilet seat? Was getting rid of things like that what you call gouging, or what you call getting rid of pork barrel spending?<br />
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The bad thing that Clinton did to the military was outsourcing so much of the operational aspects. Well, he started it and Bush took it to it&#8217;s illogical conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68257</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the deficit going up yes, you are right, we have been hurt, but can&#039;t that be offset by the pork barrel spending? Second, I know that clinton lowered the deficit by gouging the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the deficit going up yes, you are right, we have been hurt, but can&#8217;t that be offset by the pork barrel spending? Second, I know that clinton lowered the deficit by gouging the military.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, abortion is a hot button issue, because it involves some very basic ideals such as &#039;don&#039;t harm the innocent&#039; and &#039;human life is sacred.&#039; Different people have different definitions of &#039;harm,&#039; &#039;innocent,&#039; and &#039;human life.&#039;
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Just remember, it&#039;s only &#039;murder&#039; if it is unlawful killing. Killing is just peachy if it benefits society, capital punishment &amp; war being the prime examples. So the real question isn&#039;t &#039;is a fetus a human?&#039; it is &#039;does killing this fetus benefit society?&#039; If you are going to be pragmatic and sanction any kind of killing at all, you must perform the same analysis of abortion that you do of other types of killing. Otherwise, you are being a hypocrite. Oh, and you can&#039;t claim &#039;innocence&#039; as a reason not to kill a fetus. Enemy soldiers are just as innocent as our soldiers are, yet we kill them because not killing them would be a problem.
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And the data proves that killing fetuses benefits society. Adult violent crime rates began to fall exactly 18 years to the day after Roe vs. Wade passed. Unwanted kids grow up to be drains on society. I realize that this analysis is Machiavellian and uncomfortable, but it is the only way of looking at the problem that does not get bogged down in undecidable, competing definitions of what human life is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, abortion is a hot button issue, because it involves some very basic ideals such as &#8216;don&#8217;t harm the innocent&#8217; and &#8216;human life is sacred.&#8217; Different people have different definitions of &#8216;harm,&#8217; &#8216;innocent,&#8217; and &#8216;human life.&#8217;<br />
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Just remember, it&#8217;s only &#8216;murder&#8217; if it is unlawful killing. Killing is just peachy if it benefits society, capital punishment &amp; war being the prime examples. So the real question isn&#8217;t &#8216;is a fetus a human?&#8217; it is &#8216;does killing this fetus benefit society?&#8217; If you are going to be pragmatic and sanction any kind of killing at all, you must perform the same analysis of abortion that you do of other types of killing. Otherwise, you are being a hypocrite. Oh, and you can&#8217;t claim &#8216;innocence&#8217; as a reason not to kill a fetus. Enemy soldiers are just as innocent as our soldiers are, yet we kill them because not killing them would be a problem.<br />
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And the data proves that killing fetuses benefits society. Adult violent crime rates began to fall exactly 18 years to the day after Roe vs. Wade passed. Unwanted kids grow up to be drains on society. I realize that this analysis is Machiavellian and uncomfortable, but it is the only way of looking at the problem that does not get bogged down in undecidable, competing definitions of what human life is.</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68252</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonna have to read that more then once.

You&#039;ll be happy to know that I am combing the internet for an updated version of the accomplishments of bush and having a very hard time finding them and getting to the point where I&#039;m raising my hands giving up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonna have to read that more then once.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be happy to know that I am combing the internet for an updated version of the accomplishments of bush and having a very hard time finding them and getting to the point where I&#8217;m raising my hands giving up.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I should explain that term. Basically, the theory goes, at 100% taxation, nobody would work at all, so government revenue would be zero. A 0% tax rate would also net the government zero income. Obviously, at some point between zero and one hundred percent taxation, we have the point of maximum government income. Raising taxes beyond this point will slow the economy enough to reduce income, but lowering taxes below this point won&#039;t speed up the economy enough to offset the lost income.
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The question is, where is that point? The Austrian School economists such as Milton Friedman would have us believe that point is very low, but other reputable studies have shown the optimal tax rate for maximizing government income is actually around 65%. Any guesses what our ACTUAL tax rate 
is? It&#039;s very simple to figure out, just look at our GDP and actual government income. Our tax rate is 7% of our GDP, the lowest among any first world nation by a large margin. Even Austrian School economists can&#039;t claim that 7% is the optimal tax rate for government income, and claiming that lowering the tax rate even further would somehow raise government income is simply ludicrous, and no sane economist would claim otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I should explain that term. Basically, the theory goes, at 100% taxation, nobody would work at all, so government revenue would be zero. A 0% tax rate would also net the government zero income. Obviously, at some point between zero and one hundred percent taxation, we have the point of maximum government income. Raising taxes beyond this point will slow the economy enough to reduce income, but lowering taxes below this point won&#8217;t speed up the economy enough to offset the lost income.<br />
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The question is, where is that point? The Austrian School economists such as Milton Friedman would have us believe that point is very low, but other reputable studies have shown the optimal tax rate for maximizing government income is actually around 65%. Any guesses what our ACTUAL tax rate<br />
is? It&#8217;s very simple to figure out, just look at our GDP and actual government income. Our tax rate is 7% of our GDP, the lowest among any first world nation by a large margin. Even Austrian School economists can&#8217;t claim that 7% is the optimal tax rate for government income, and claiming that lowering the tax rate even further would somehow raise government income is simply ludicrous, and no sane economist would claim otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68243</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I about 90% agreed with you, where in the world are you coming from?</description>
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		<title>By: Trainwreck Chaser</title>
		<link>http://punditkitchen.com/2008/11/11/political-pictures-george-bush-kick-me1/comment-page-1/#comment-68233</link>
		<dc:creator>Trainwreck Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment got eaten, how is this happening? I&#039;ve got some rebuttle but I&#039;ll admit to you seth (cause I like you and this should be an example to others) that I don&#039;t know anything about our tax system. Laffer curve is over my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment got eaten, how is this happening? I&#8217;ve got some rebuttle but I&#8217;ll admit to you seth (cause I like you and this should be an example to others) that I don&#8217;t know anything about our tax system. Laffer curve is over my head.</p>
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