What McCain said: “Please…”
What McCain said: “Please…” What McCain thought: “Shut the fuck up, idiots.”
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haha. yup
Too bad he couldn’t say that throughout his campaign though…
He also thought “no wonder I lost with these assholes as my support!”
He did – multiple times.
I remember seeing one, and then hearing about another.
i just can’t believe they boo’d! It was like a bad wrestling match “sell.”
Yeah, pretty much. I think his expression says it all: “Uh, guys, I’m trying to concede with a little grace and dignity here, and you all are acting like a bunch of college kids whose team just lost a basketball game.”
Seriously, booing? And I swear I heard some yayhoo yell “Usurper!” I dont think that word means what he thinks it means.
McCain deserved more class from his supporters, as he was showing a good bit of it himself.
I’m amazed that someone knew the word to yell it out in the first place.
That’s the way to build unity, say your opponents supports voted that way because they’re stupid not because they hold a different opinion.
Insulting people on either side of the aisle pisses me off.
Why are you assuming that justin’s remark was directed at all McCain supporters and not just that one jerk? Could it possibly be that you don’t really want unity? Yes it can.
Obama’s got to build relationships with people like McCain and others in Congress, and he’s got to reach out to thinking people in the country, if he wants his message of hope to be heard.
He doesn’t require the rest of us to not mock the trogs who can’t follow the lead of their candidate and shut the fuck up with the hate and recrimination and instead interrupt their guy while he’s trying to concede.
Well said, Rowan. I didn’t vote him, but he showed real class.
Think of the uproar that would have happened if obama was the one who lost and he was addressing McCain
dont be silly
Yeah, I think the assholes are pretty much evenly spread between both parties.
Yet, when Obama praised McCain, as he did several times while campaigning, no one booed. Something caused that discrepancy.
I’m thinking a campaign based on hate and fear has natural consequences.
Which campaign were you watching? They booed McCain several times during Obama’s speeches.
When Obama was praising him, they booed him? If that happened, I missed it. Do you have any citations/youtube footage to back that up?
apparently everything on youtube is reputable and factually solid.
Translation: “No I have no proof”.
I watched his victory speech live and dont recall anyone booing his praise of mccain, so if they did boo, it was other times, during the campaign
yea, i actually remember people cheering whenever Obama mentioned McCain. maybe not too enthusiastically, but they sure as hell didn’t boo.
This is an important point.
Sorry, that’s standard Rove playbook: we suck, so the other side must suck, too. I thought we got over this.
Obama never tried to rile up his supporters with suggestions that McCain palled around with terrorists, and his rallies never featured calls to kill McCain or screams that McCain was some kind of traitor.
So, no, I don’t think there’d have been much booing among Obama’s supporters if he’d lost and was conceding.
No booing, just riots.
Then I guess it’s a good thing he got his EPIC WIN
Definitely. There’s always a silver lining.
Oh please! Don’t pull the “riot” bs!
Obama won, so no one had to.
Wait, Obama’s win and the absence of riots is proof that riots would have exploded had he lost?
Of course…
Yeah, all that stuff was proven to be false, y’know. Secret Service takes death threats mighty seriously.
Which is really strange, since it’s audible on tape. And even stranger that the Secret Service wouldn’t let reporters talk to members of the crowd standing in the general area the shouts came from.
I suspect it did happen, the S.S. dealt with it quickly and quietly, and they don’t want the press lingering over it and giving copycats and random psychos even more ideas than they already had.
Where’s the audio then?
This is interesting
tinyurl.com/6saz8t
As are these
tinyurl.com/4zplwh
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jw3o3y77MaA
Just paste the links…
On the youtube link… as the guy shouts ‘Kill him’ McCain can be seen to wince…
Right, because William Ayers is TOTALLY not a terrorist and definitely does NOT know Obama.
Also, all that shit about calls to kill Obama have been debunked, if you’d bother to read shit other than the Daily Kos.
And there would have been booing, because Obama spent his campaign riling people up with the suggestion that McCain would be the next Bush, keep us in Iraq for a hundred years, and destroy the economy.
Destroy what economy?
Sorry couldn’t resist.
Ayers and Obama served on a board together- and I believe (though I am not sure) that Ayers was chair. Have you ever tried to do something where you totally ignore the chair of a board?
I think there was some booing at the more intense times of the Obama campaign- assholes on both sides, seriously. But don’t act like the GOP never said anything bad about Obama.
I think McCain showed INCREDIBLE class, and I think if he had been allowed to be more like that thruout, he might have won.
Psst…all you have to do is look at his voting record…
Yeah, the whole WORLD would be pissed off.
I concur heartily. He made an effort and the supporters that were there just acted like total morons.
(And I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if someone did yell that.)
The thing is, though, McCain launched a campaign based on fear and prejudice. Then he acted like he didn’t understand the racism that his supporters displayed. What did he think was gonna happen?
It’s nice that his exit speech has some class. But it was too little, too late for my taste. He pretty much killed the credibility he had built up over years in just a few months. Sad, sad.
ROFL! Racism! That’s rich considering Obama’s primary defense was “they’re gonna make you scared of me cuz I have a funny name and am black.” And Fear! You mean “McCain will tax your health care, McCain will take away your social security, McCain only cares about rich corporations.” That, sir, is fearmongering.
Haven’t you seen any of the camcorder videos on youtube of McCain/Palin ‘fans’ going to their rallies? If that isn’t racism I don’t know what is. And all the language they use in those videos are DIRECT results of the rhetoric that McCain and particularly Palin used in their speeches during the campaign.
What rhetoric? Show me where they were using racist rhetoric. Prove it.
Oh wait, you can’t. Your only proof is that they questioned him, his past connections, his plans for what he would do if he became President (which were astonishingly vague), wore white clothes, and said “that one”. Wow. That’s racist.
Haven’t you met any McCain/Palin supporters outside of those YouTube videos? The average McCain/Palin supporter is NOTHING like that, and is sick of being compared to the idiots who are by the very party of racism and bigotry. I would not be surprised if most of those people are Dems who fled the party after they nominated a black man.
That’s just as empty of an argument as the one that stated that all Palin/McCain supporters are racist.
None of the official spots painted Obama in a racist light. However, the conflation of the official with the unofficial lines of attack are strong. McCain was in
a pretty hard position, I would say, because it’s likely that he does not
have the less savory views as many of his voters, just as Obama does
not have the unenlightened ideas of many of his supporters.
Ultimately, it came down to which individual exercised more control over those
areas of his campaign.
Yeah i’m pretty sure that all the mccain/palin supporters are
brainless, racist, religious.. etc etc…
proof-
not only youtube, but
@ my job, there was much snickering about
obama, even being called “omaba.”
Hussein as a middle name! O dear god!
yeah i need a new job.
I can’t fathom how anyone can look at Obama’s supporters throughout this campaign, and with a straight face, say “OMGWTF MCCAIN FANS BOOED!!!!11″
I was impressed with his concession speech, and I personally though I saw embarrassment and pain in his face at the response of people in the crowd, not to mention the obvious weariness. Public life at that level can’t be that easy; imagine having to deal with problems among your supporters on top of it. It’s harder to appear gracious in defeat when the people around you won’t cooperate.
He played his game almost directly to slack-jawed yokels, war-hawks, and racists. Why was he surprised when they were the only ones making any noise in his crowds?
Surprised, probably not. Disappointed, more likely.
But no matter how left-leaning I am, Obama would be wise to tap into McCain as an advisor in some capacity. Just because I don’t agree with the guy 100% doesn’t mean that he doesn’t necessarily know what he’s talking about in certain topics.
Hear hear. Or is it here here? If he doesn’t publicly ask for McCain’s help *somehow*, he’s not the man I thought he was.
C’mon, it is perfectly rational to not bring McCain in the way you’re espousing, particularly because of the year-end election stuff going on in Georgia. Also, consider that it’s not just about how Obama would want to appear, but how
McCain would want to be viewed by his supporters.
It still wasn’t completely his fault they were acting like total fucktards. Even a slack jawed yokel knows when to tie his jaw up and not talk… these people just had no decorum.
right you snotty putz, how perfect you must be
How very mature. His campaign really did pander to the extreme part of the conservative base. Those that fall for the paranoia inducing attacks, like those she listed. It may be overgeneralizing to a degree, but it doesn’t make it untrue. McCain wanted unity, but the pundits are still pushing their hate, apparently successfully based on your knee-jerk reaction to a comment on a message board. You don’t have to agree, but you should refrain from insults, K?
I agree with u, Minerva! No need for insults. Just because u don’t agree with someone, doesn’t mean u have to put them down for what they believe in. In watching the debates, it was always so annoying to watch when McCain wouldn’t answer how HE felt about issues, but would launch into how Obama would/would not handle the situations. In watching a debate, I want to know how the candidate feels about the issues, not listen to him bash the other party. Mmmkay?!
So, how about telling the person who called all McCain/Palin supporters slack jawed yokels, racists, and war-hawks that THEY should refrain from insults, hypocrite?
That wasn’t the tone of that comment. It wasn’t directed at anyone on this site. Out of context fail.
They didn;t call all McCain supporter that either. They said that the campaign was aimed at that type of supporter. Still out of context fail.
It’s certainly not difficult to get the idea that many of McCain’s supporters were indeed slack-jawed yokels after you’ve been through a McCain rally. The clips of rallies posted at Youtube are close enough to what I had to deal with when he blew through my neighborhood that I’m very likely to think of most of them that way.
Come on, Jamie, you don’t honestly think some of McCain’s supporters were the only ones playing the race cards. You can try to pretty it up by calling it “heritage pride” or any of that other nonsense excuse, but Obama relied quite heavily on racism this time around.
technically race bias =/= racism. It’s close, but you don’t get the cigar. I know i personally have a white bias, it’s the culture I know and am comfortable with and I will gravitate to it, that doesn’t mean i thought mcCain would be better for being white, or that black people don’t deserve everything they have earned thus far. It just means that when push comes to shove i’m more comfortable in the culture i grew up in.
He’s the only person I have heard in years who discussed race with us like we were all adults. If that’s racism in your book, then you need a new book.
It was the student vote that made the difference anyway. Around 24 million students voted and they were 2:1 in favor of Obama, that’s 16 mil to 8 mil, aka students could easily match McCain and Obama votes and have enough to decide the popular vote (8 mil apart).
If by playing race cards you mean that he got a larger percent of the african american community to vote for him, you would be half right. It’s been statistcally shown that african american’s tend to favor the democratic party in the last two decades or so. In the 2004 election, about 88% of blacks voted for Kerry so the jump to 95% who voted for Obama isn’t really all that impressive.
If by playing race cards you mean making people feel racist for not voting for him? Well if you voted for him because you felt racist if you didn’t, and not because you agreed with his policies, then maybe you should put some more thought into how you vote.
If you mean that by him being black more blacks voted? Well yes, then that very well might be true, however it is to be expected regardless of whether or not he “played the race card”.
Which is just plain comical, because the more Democrats institute their policies, the worse minorities do. Since The Great Society, we have poured trillions of dollars into improving the lot for “the poor” and it has done absolutely zero good. The problem is that policies that make people dependent on government make them slaves to government. Slaves have no drive, no desire to succeed. It wasn’t the Republican Party that was turning fire hoses on marchers, setting dogs loose on protesters, calling out the National Guard to prevent black students from going to “white” high schools, or blocking Civil Rights legislation every step of the way. Since the 1860’s the Democrat party has done their best to keep minorities, especially blacks, dependent on whites for their very survival. It’s disgusting that they’ve managed to convince the very people they hurt the most that somehow they’re “helping” them.
Wow…that was long winded…
‘Slaves have no drive, no desire to succeed’. And how is it that you know what slaves think or feel? Do you know any modern day slaves of people-trafficking for example? Or is it that you’ve spoken to people brought from Africa during the period of slavery in the US, who have all obviously passed on now – did they speak to you through the ouija board?
Just wondering.
Jesus Frog, doesn’t ANYONE know their history around here?
Follow the bouncing ball, Robert: You’re talking about the Dixiecrats, southerners who became Democrats during Reconstruction. They were corrupt, they made the Democrats suck for a long time. Fine.
Flash forward to LBJ, 1964. The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, signed by a TEXAS DEMOCRAT.
Whereupon, the Dixiecrats rise as one and LEAVE the Democratic Party, dramatically reducing the net suck of the party. Shortly they become the core constituency of the modern Republican Party, causing the greatest increase in net suck of that body in recorded history.
Summary: Today’s Republicans are EXACTLY the Dixiecrats of old you’re complaining about.
Summary of the summary: You fail.
an excellent overview of history as I understood it…
I’m amused at the poor quality of public schools. I for one do not see this phantom racism that supposedly exists in the Republican party. The people who vote Democrat now are the same ones that were spellbound by FDR and JFK. While you’re correct in saying that Johnson signed the legislation, he onely did it with a handful of his own party shored up by the Republican Party, the party of Martin Luther King. No, the net suck of the party is still fully in effect, praising economic policies that don’t work, that have never worked, and will never work, while simultaneously badmouthing the very policies that have increased the percentage of people making over $100K, increased GDP and kept unemployment low.
LOL, nice use of intelligence and sarcasm. Fave line: “reducing the net suck of the party.” *clap, clap*
I think you left out the best part- *Dramatically* reducing net suck.
That’s beyond insulting. Gross generalizations are ludicrous on both sides. The fact of the matter is that neither party for decades lifted a finger, so please stop th e nonsense.
I do believe the Obama campaign used race as a spring board to get out the vote. I do not think that Barack ever used it as a campaign platform, nor did he ever hint that McCain/Palin might be less qualified for their jobs because of their race or their upbringing. This is only one of many glaring differences between the campaigns.
He did call the Clintons racist. Hmm… well, he definitely used racism in his favour to get the nomination, because what liberal would vote for a racist?
Are you kidding me? “They’re gonna try to make you scared…of me! They’ll so oh, he’s got a funny name, he doesn’t look like all those presidents on the currency, oh, and did I mention, he’s black?”
An amalgamation of several versions of his stump speech, but I wanted to get it all. He did the same things to the Clintons (whom, it should be noted, I loathe), by bringing up race and then saying his opponents were using race.
And Obama directed his at simple minded buffoons who were easily buffaloed by vacuous speeches, lies, and distortions.
Oh, and 90% of blacks voted for Obama. That’s racism, whether you wish to acknowledge it or not. Can you imagine the outcry if 90% of white people voted for McCain?
As opposed to the cultured intelligensia that Ms Palin courted so delicately, and won over most persuasively. Pteauch…
Incidentally, how does one get buffaloed? Having been axolotl’d, babooned, elephanted and ocelotted, I’m kinda curious.
Incidentally, if your quoted figure of 90% is actually correct… that’s not racism, that’s a VERY large amount of people who have decided to do something they’ve never done before and vote. It’s actually rather pleasing that 90% of anybody decided to voice their desires.
‘Tis a bugger when democracy doesn’t work your way, isn’t it?
GOVERNOR Palin appealed to people who had real jobs, who didn’t want their rights trampled on by a bloated federal government, and who didn’t want to spend their whole lives suckling at the teat of The State. And yes, I see an (almost) entire demographic voting for a person that looks like them racist.
Democracy, ha! You mean illegal campaign contributions, ads full of inaccuracies, and massive voter fraud? That’s not my definition of democracy.
Oh, and so you agree with California’s Prop 8, then, right?
Gov Palin actually simply fear mongered. But then, expecting ’substance’ in ana election is like expecting them to do what they claimed they’d do after they’re elected. For me, I’m please that she’s back in God’s Armpit…
Where was the voter fraud, btw… I saw some attempted, yes, but the fact we know about it means it failed. If it was successful we’d *maybe* get to hear about it in 2010 or after…
Robert you’re starting to sound like Rush Limbaugh (sorry I couldn’t refrain from that insult). Explain exactly who illegally contributed to Obama’s campaign, and most of all, how did Obama manage to commit massive voter fraud and win over 60% of the nations vote? I would think if he commited fraud he would have only won by a little, kinda like George Bush in 2000. As far as lies in ads, factcheck.org reported nearly equal numbers on each side.
Also, I find it rather racist that you say the black community voted for Obama because he “looks” like them. Like all of them? Obama doesn’t look like any of my black friends, and I couldn’t say John McCain looks like me, could you? So next time you feel like saying “all black people look alike”, watch where you say it.
Oh, and being buffaloed is kind of like being elephanted, only not quite as painful.
It is a real word, btw, but I have to respond to humor in kind.
I like the use of the neotenous newt… Neoteny seems to be a global malaise atm…
If 90% of white people had voted for McCain it would have been because he was very persuasive on his campaign. Many people of color DID vote for Obama primarily based on the color of his skin. They also took that opportunity to take civil rights away from me, my family, my friends, members of my church and so many others. There is no question that when you vote for something as superficial as skin color or the ability to say “si hablo espaniol” with a Texas twang, that you will get things you did not expect with that vote.
I think I agree with what you’re saying, but I’m not 100% sure…the point is, if people had taken the time to look at what Senator Obama actually stood for, he never would have made it past the primary.
Not that I like Hillary any better, but y’know.
Obama won the majority of the white vote too. I voted for him because what he stands for.
Oh, for pete’s sake, get a grip. If the Republican party had been the political organization most attractive to blacks, they’d have the lion’s share of African American voters. They lost them way before WWI, considering that the EP was the only major legislation geared toward blacks that was enforced until after WWII. Had Nixon put through those civil rights initiatives, the Republican party would have gotten blacks as part of their base. The traditional southern Democrats splintered in the 1950s and 1960s–Strom Thurmond used to be a “Dixiecrat” before running for president under an independent party and finally became a Republican.
You are also grossly mistaken on how racism is defined in voting habits. Voting for someone because they are black is different than not voting for someone because they are white. Secondly, for Obama NOT to occasionally address race would have been impossible, simply because of the color of his skin…he would not have been able to avoid it. It is disingenuous to criticize him for doing so. Finally, if you presumptions were true, Jesse Jackson’s two campaigns in the 1980s would have inspired more of a response among the African American population than it did.
I can certainly imagine the outcry, particularly given what was unleashed during the campaign, as well as the number of people that stated they were supporting Obama.
While I found his final speech to be gracious and warm, John McCain must surely have been reminded that those who were boo-ing in the crowd were exactly the type of people both him and Palin were trying to appeal to with some of that toxic rhetoric they used in their rallies. If you’re going to use phrases like ‘pals around with terrorists’, ‘who is the real barack obama?’, ‘he doesn’t see america like you and I see america’, then you have to accept that boo-ing Obama during McCain’s final curtain call will be one of the results.
What a disappointment it must have been for him to realise that his own supporters were too ignorant to know that they were being counter-productive to his attempts to bow out with grace and dignity.
Well said.
I almost worry that the ‘grassroots’ side that especially Palin was working up and pandering to with their paranoia speeches, will be too worked up to ever accept him as a president. What symbol will it show to the world if the man elected to bring change and hope gets assassinated by some slack-jawed, racist, yokel?
Yes. I am SOOO glad McCain didn’t let her speak at the concession like she wanted. She would have undermined his message of hope, I’m fairly certain, and which, I’m sure, he was trying to avoid.
I think she would have announced her candidacy for 2012 right then and there!
I can almost hear it now: “I’d like to thank Todd and my kids…The RNC for this FABULOUS wardrobe…and I’d like to give a big shout-out to all those who voted for me…umm..I mean John McCain…and for all you Main Street-Joe-the Plumber-maverick-types, you betcha I’ll be back…be lookin’ for this lipstick-wearin’-hockey mom in 2012!! *WINK*”
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks.
Late night TV and Daily Show/Colbert would be doing backflips with giddy joy at the thought of her running again. (If she thought Africa was a country and not a continent I’m sure she’s got quite a few other backwater gems in her
)
63% of Republicans want Palin to run for pres in 2012.
99% of Democrats want her to run too.
Bah dum dum.
Palin should not ever, and I mean, EVER, run for anything again…except maybe Race for the Cure.
I think that it’s a smaller group than you think. There were three levels of paranoia here. One is an outgrowth of the economic climate and fear of terrorism that the McCain campaign tapped into. The second was the standard Cold War-era argument, while with third was the genuine racist element. The number of people ready to support the incoming president, I believe, are higher than the number of people that voted for him, particularly because the election for the most part went smoothly and the wide margin of victory. At this point, many of McCain’s supporters are adopting a wait and see, success will benefit us approach, which is the most you can ask for after such a vigorous campaign.
To be fair to McCain, most of the really bad stuff didn’t come from him, but from others on his side.
I saw a clip where a woman at a town hall meeting told him she wouldn’t vote for Obama because he was an Arab. McCain corrected her, said Obama was a good man who he happened to disagree with, and walked away from her.
Palin is the one who accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” If the news reports can be believed, this was against direct orders from McCain.
That sounds like the beginning of the campaign. When McCain actually DID try to correct people and make Obama not seem so bad (to McCain’s followers). But over the course of time, he stopped. Probably got told by his handler, er committee, that it would undermine his own campaign.
And the woman has no clue, clearly, that Arab =/= Muslim. There are only 23 Arabic nations, Nigeria isn’t one. And not all Arabs are Muslim. -_-
And muslim doesn’t need to be the dirty word it’s been turned into these last few years either. one thing about Mc Cain’s correction that bothered me: “He’s not an arab, he’s a good family man” Can we not treat those two as mutually exclusive please? Thanks.
“And not all Arabs are Muslim. -_-”
Well said, ask the Copts
Barack’s ancestors are from Kenya man.
Actually, Obama’s dad was Arab, so technically so is he. He is not, of course, a Muslim, but that’s a different discussion entirely.
Um, his father was from Kenya. Black African. Not Arab. He was raised Muslim but rejected the faith (and all faiths) and became an atheist. Not Arab.
Oi…his father was a Kenyan Arab. I promise. I bear no ill will towards him due to his heritage, but I’m not gonna ignore it when it comes up, either.
Jeez, Arab is an ethnicity. Muslim is the faith. He was from a Subsaharan African tribe, not North African.
NO! His dad was AFRICAN. He was also a Muslim. Islam, like ALL religeons is not actually hereditary.
According to Islam, it actually is passed on from father to child. They all think he’s a Muslim. Some of them are going to get a rather rude awakening, however. That amuses me.
Once again, gross generalizing. How many of “them” have you spoken to recently?
Kenya is in fact predominantly Christian, and the majority of Muslims–all 6% of them–are in fact Arab and South Asian, and do not reside in the same region as Obama’s father did. Obama’s father in fact converted while he was in Zanzibar apparently. He also did not have a relationship with his father in his formative years on a par with his step father or grandparents.
Hey everyone, republicans are the only people that could possibly run a dirty campaign.
Being impartial does not mean pretending that it’s impossible that one side was more underhand in their tactics than the other.
I think anyone that’s being honest with themselves will admit that the Republican campaign was more underhand this time around.
To be honest with myself I didn’t pay attention to the political adds since I listen to political radio and watch tv a lot, they became numb for me. But people are acting like this is the first time there have been mean political adds on tv, that there haven’t been mean people expressing there opinions for the last couple of years.
Secondly the media has kissed Baracks ass on numerous occasions. Unlike most democrats with Bush, I’m going to support Barack even though I don’t agree with this policies because I believe it will better aid America then my cynicism. You may have disagreed with Bush, but the hate and the ranting and the rage did nothing to help America, and now you are asking us to unify under someone that not everyone trusts. It’s hypocritical to say the least but I know when I see a good idea. Unity right now is what is needed.
Lastly, Don’t be surprised when people say stupid shit. There are plenty of idiots around the world that some how get put on TV (Jerry Springer, Montel, Morey, The Hills, OC, everything on MTV. I could go on forever….) quit acting so surprised. I VERY MUCH doubt that people who said “Kill him,” have any clout whatsoever, and I will be there next to you if something like that ever happened, ranting and raving just case something like that happens is useless and only useful if it did happen. Take your own advice, unify next to people you don’t like. They’ll see your example and rethink there opinion, and if not then they’ll just be stupid and that isn’t your problem. THAT is the epitome of tolerance, and people forget that so often it makes me scream.
(Editing for grammar idiocy………have it Nazi’s, I tried my best here)
Except… the only people who would be asking you to ‘unify’ under a president you do not support are idiot’s in their own right. No one who actually matter’s is expecting any of us who did not vote for him in the first place to suddenly magically thrust our support behind Obama. The vast majority of the people who have said anything that could be interpreted as such were simply saying ‘Yes, it’s okay to disagree with the man, and refuse to support him, but you still must do so from a place of dignity and respect’ which is… at it’s heart I think, what McCain was REALLY trying to say.
Despite what people on both sides of the political war believe… it is more treacherous to NOT question one’s government than it is question it.
I have no idea what the deal was with all those unecessary apostrophes… I apologize for that.
“Despite what people on both sides of the political war believe… it is more treacherous to NOT question one’s government than it is question it.”
Isn’t this the same rhetoric that the left has been using for the past 8 years and been called all kinds of things like anti-American, communists, socialists, nazis, etc., by the right because they weren’t supporting the President during a time of war? How convenient that now they’re out of power the right is stealing all of the left’s best lines.
Most definitely, it is much healthier to question one’s government. It is, also, however, necessary to vet the veracity of the source of those questions.
Really? So massive voter fraud in every swing state, raising copious amounts of illegal money from foreign donors and false names, and accusing your opponent of racism at every turn, whether we’re talking about Hillary or McCain, is more underhanded than…what? Pointing out your opponent has associations that would disqualify him from taking a bullet for a president, much less being one? That the radical redistribution of wealth is socialism? Perhaps saying that raising taxes on the producers in economic downturns is a disastrous plan? Give me a freaking break.
I hope you’ll be able to get behind your new president – he received more votes than any other president elect – I hope you will unite behind the decision your country has made, and join with them. People both in the US and the world over have suffered through eight years of Bush and the destruction he has wrought….I think your country deserves another option. And your country has spoken.
I believe I’ll show Senator Obama every bit of respect the Democrats showed President Bush after his election.
No, I’m really a better person than that.
Suffered? Suffered? If by suffered, you mean growth of GDP, increase in median wage, decrease in unemployment, no terrorist attacks on US soil, more aid given to Africa than any President before him, then you have an odd definition of suffered.
While expanding Governmental and Executive Power on a scale previously unseen in US history, spying on his own citizenry while wrapping himself in the flag, handing out no-bid contracts to his cronies, and lying to get into a second war front that anyone with even a feeble grasp of history is a bad move, censoring the news such that they can’t film coffins coming home from his Iraqi adventure and parlaying a Budget surplus into a massive deficit in a shade under 4 years…
Somehow, you forgot that bit…
Hmm…. seems to me that during Bush’s presidency, I remember: a horrible terrorist attack, de-unionization, a greater income gap, millions of dollars being dumped into an un-winnable war, a huge increase in unemployment, complete ignorance of environmental concerns, a massive decrease in world respect, and the complete and utter downturn of not only our, but the worlds economy.
That’s right Bobby, don’t let facts get in the way of your Fox News talking points.
The bogus registration forms were separated out, tagged as bogus and submitted AS REQUIRED BY LAW. There has not been ONE documented case of any of those bogus registrations being used in an attempt to actually vote.
And you do NOT want to get the machine started on McCain’s far more damning associations, of which chairing a committee that gave Khalidi half a million dollars is only the tip of the iceberg.
Actually, they weren’t, because the various supreme courts wouldn’t overturn them. Really? Is that the best you people have? “Fox News Talking Points”? Gimme a break. More importantly, when voting starts a month early, you can register and vote the same day, and you will NEVER BE ABLE TO find those ballots again. When 110% of a city’s registered population votes, that’s fraud.
OK, I’ll play-Obama using taxpayer funds to go help the genocidal African dictator Odinga strongarm his opponent into gaining power.
Citations?
Charges which have all been refuted of exposed as ill-defined.
No, anyone can. Republicans did.
Except Chris Shays, gotta respect that.
INVISIBLE BOOBIES.
God, I’m so 12 sometimes.
How large is that invisible woman you’re imagining?
Almost big enough
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ck for the WIN!
McCain did give a lovely speech. It was gracious and classy. He was a maverick once, just not this time. I feel almost sad for him.
Perceptive, I’d say – that pic screams for that cap!
I’d be afraid of boobies that big.
Wuss
McCain must be too, the way he’s holding his hands is like he’s pusing them away, not grabbing on.
PUSHING, PUSHING!!! GAH!!! *can’t type today*
And what man in his right mind would do THAT?!
Palin looks like she just swallowed a slug. And not the tasty kind, either.
“I just threw up a little in my mouth” face – ur doing it rite.
Is everyone here radically left? That was funny when PunditKitchen was launched, but now, it’s boring. There is no one here willing to make a remotely right wing photo for fear of being slammed into the ground faster than Rosie O’Donnell(sp?) after jumping out of a plane without a parachute. The reason he isn’t lifting his arms higher is because he physically CAN’T. HE WAS SEVERELY BEATEN IN A POW CAMP. SHOW THE MAN SOME RESPECT.
I submitted a photo over three months ago with a right wing caption. I then submitted a left-wing captioned photo, and found it on the site within the HOUR. I’M SICK AND TIRED OF THE 10:1 LEFT-TO-RIGHT WING BIAS.
Thank you for letting me get that off my chest.
You’re welcome.
I agree with this comment 100%! Too bad this site won’t display everyone’s opinions, just the popular ones…
I’ve made them too… inot a one made the page, so be happy it’s a popularity contest.
I do enjoy the same people who whinge about the possible introduction of a ‘fairness doctrine’ then whine about the fact they don’t make the grade.
Life ain’t fair… so deal
If you comment often and with fervor and some intelligence you’ll be known here, if you comment with too much intelligence you’ll end up having walls of text no one reads. I’ve found the happy middle and my opinion has some respect…for a couple people. The people that I feel matter.
I can’t believe i’m including n8 in that sentence but I am.
TC, I like your answer. It sounds like you could make a go at a political office with that kind of theory…
By popular, you mean voted for… As in how they are selected, as in… I’ll stop, if I have to explain it anymore, you are too stupid to breathe.
I’ve submitted several as well. None made it to the voting page.
Why is mocking cripples ‘Left Wing’? The Reps are the ‘Let them starve in the street’ party
Also, the imprecatory gesture he’s making would look stupid if it went above the shoulder. Less ‘calm down’ and more ‘Let’s have a Mexican Wave’.
Seems the bile is is rotting your brain, you hick.
How about you quit projecting your own insecurities, darling?
okay i deeply respect the man for his time in the POW camp, that is something i will never back down on, however you do need a bit of sense of humor. If everything funny has to make perfect sense then there’s not much point in living.
Humor is illogical, the picture looked funny and words were added. Yes we can recognize he isn’t a dolt, but it’s a momentary suspense of reality to have a good laugh.
Where is the comment about lifting his arms to which you are responding? You brought that up, as near as I can tell.
Like I said… bile rotting his brain…
I said I had something to get off my chest.
And, Uncle Fester, you went from quasi-agreeing (Maybe kinda-sorta possibly etc.) with me to saying that “the bile must be rotting your brain, you hick.”
I’m just disappointed that this page is a biased!popularity contest. And, oh hold on.
No, I never agreed with you. See, that bile…
and yup, it’s a popularity contest.
You’ll have to forgive Uncle Fester. His family tree doesn’t branch, and the anger stems from the primates who birthed him tossing him back under a rock until they thought he was dead.
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UF, I’m a little sick of you just tossing out names for people who have different views than you do. I don’t understand where your anger comes from, but if you can’t have a decent discussion with people who don’t necessarily agree with you, how do you exist in daily life? You must be extremely lonely.
Ah, the Conservative Police has arrived… How nice.
No abortion clinics to picket?
Proving the other guy’s point: You’re doing it right.
I don’t care what people say about me online. I have deduced that his tree didn’t branch, by the socratic method. I looked at all the facts, and concluded that he is a antisocial bigot who has no life. (ZING!)
Equal opportunity bigot, please… credit where it’s due
Huh?? The caption doesn’t say anything about McCain’s arms, nor do any of the comments I’ve read (at least so far). Most of the comments I’ve read since the election are respectful towards Sen. McCain and point out that he’s a not a bad guy at heart. If his campaign was hijacked by some of the more extreme elements of his party, they/we are deploring this.
McCain is no doubt a war hero. If you watched CNN’s special on both McCain and Obama you might have noticed something I thought was odd. McCains special focused on McCain the man and what he had done for the country, Obamas focused more on what he could DO for the country.
CNN is usually remarkably balanced. but the amount of time they spend on McCains war service began to turn me off. He did great things, but now is what we want to see, what would he do now. He’s a great man, I just don’t think he’s the best one for America right now.
Both of those were produced by the candidates, not by CNN or any other source. Just because it was aired on CNN doesn’t mean they produced it. It just so happened that Obama’s strategy for securing votes was to talk about actual policy and McCain’s was to talk about what he thought would get him the votes.
Ah, I’ve learned something. Makes more sense that they were
produced by the candidates.
I voted for Obama and I think the gesture McCain’s making here is just right. Even if he physically could lift his arms higher, he didn’t need to do that here.
I’ve made left wing ones that never made it.
I’m not!
I think they should be welcomed just as any others would be,
Republicans own the radio, Democrats own the internet, tough luck.
You got THAT right! Check out those Manson lamps.
That was Brandine, My Wife, Mother, Sister, Cousin, Daughter and Niece.
Damn, Tessie & FaileV have got me.
ck said “IMAGINARY BOOBIES!” I know NOW that he was sarcastic (Hopefully). I did NOT know that when I first posted. I have had a habit in the past of jumping! to conclusions. I thought I had kicked it. Apparently not. this has been very insightful to me.
I’ve gots to run, Brandine wants me to go sort through my roadkill collection. I’m
gonna sell the not as intrestin’ ones at the flea market this weekend.
Oh, and Sue, thanks for the compliment. When Ifirst read that, the first thing that went through my mind was “above comment = MADE OF WIN!”. I’d gladly return the favor by stickin’ up for you sometime.
Anyone making a ‘Take a big steaming cup of STFU you howling dogs’ type gesture looks like they’re copping a feel of mammoth boobies… doesn’t matter how high they can raised their arms, god love em…
‘Take a big steaming cup of STFU you howling dogs’ type gesture
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My keyboard is amazingly clean now, I just cried laughing all over it.
Fine. I will finally agree with you, Uncle Fester. Even though I think you’re still a jerk-off.
Why thank you… I still think you’re a turd too…
mccain is a total hottie !
We’d both need bags over our heads before I’d do him…
Dear god, I have GOT to stop impersonating a right-wing blowhard online. People take me SERIOUSLY. I shook Obama’s hand TWICE!! YAH!! OBAMA WON!! WOOHOO!!
Did the leprosy clear up and the leg grow back?
What? *fails epicly*
I’m happy to report a full recovery from Echinococcosis. Parasites from
all dem purty ded foxes I put in the back of my truck. (Since, apparently, I’m still a hick.)
Long as they weren’t too fresh… the meat’s tough otherwise.
Nothing a long marinating can’t cure…
That was my exact thought! My response would have been “I’m done pandering to you ignorant morons. You lost my campaign, fuck you, good night.”
McCain’s ineptitude lost his campaign.
The problem is, he’s been calling for the boos at his rallies for months. He can turn it off when the election is over, but expecting the people he riled up to turn it off, thats another story.
The trouble with the starting is the stopping.
Yes, because heaven forbid people be upset when a Marxist is elected president.
Another student of Das Kapital speaks…
“Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit.”~Oscar Wilde.
it’s misinformed parroting like this that makes me wonder what the average intelligence of this type is?
just a note in case you didn’t know. Marxism =/= Socialism and Obama =/= socialist.
I’ve heard so many idiotic statements about, socialist dictators and how we’re going to be communist…like Japan (so very wrong it burns…)
I’m pretty sure distribution of wealth to people who “need” it more than those who actually earned it is one of the major tenets of Marxism. Of course, so is government control of banks, factories, and the like, so don’t think I’m not pissed about that, too.
Progressive income tax = Marxism. You heard it here first, folks.
If Trotsky were alive, he’d piss in your coffee.
Yeah, actually. “From those based on ability, to those based on need.” And Obama’s talking about taking money from 5% and giving it to 95%, so that goes beyond a progressive income tax. If Trotsky was alive, he’d be laughing at us for going down the road and not even realizing it.
it is true that many Black people went out and voted for Obama, but don’t let that mistake you. Not every one voted for Obama because he was Black, but because of what he can actually do for this country and they agreed with his ideas. and i believe somewhere that 67% of White votes went to Obama. so you really cant pull the race card with this, because the Black vote alone wouldnt have enable Obama to win
I mean, people just might as well admit-they are still upset that a Black man won office. Because honestly, if this election were between two White men, then we wouldn’t be dealing with many of the comments out there.
I think that this election showed alot of people that racism is still running. And it’s not going to take the first Black President to get rid of that. It may take another lifetime.
1. Obama is half white as well as half black. Why is he giving himself a slack as anti-black race-hate victim? Why is he siding with race-baiters?
2. He was associating with radical socialists, anarchists, black and white, all his life. Please stop telling he did not see or he did not know (like he is a moron). He selected his friends CAREFULLY (read his memoirs). Black church is regurgitating anti-white hatred since slavery, but not every single black person in this country is even a slave descendant. Black church never, ever made an effort to unite people, but accused evil whites and incited hatred and divide.
3. Ironically, the most furious black radical activists are of mixed race and some are so light-skinned, I just keep wondering – what gives? And if Sharpton is so black-and-proud, why relaxed hair ?.. Why they live in
4. Subprime mortgage mess started back in the early 70s as part of Affirmative Action and finally reached its climax, and Obama who was lobbying it (and intimidating CitiBank into lending to the people who will fail payments) is now blaming Bush.
5. What was the result of Obama’s effort as “community organizer” in Chicago? Did these people become more motivated, responsible, morally stable, or respectful of Constitution (or Ten Commandments)? Did they start working for profit to provide for they families or are they still waiting for a handout? Face it, pandering does not guarantee any decent results.
6. While we gaped at the Presidential race, Obama’s people were busy talking with Hamas, making friends with more terrorists. No wonder they supported him. Congratulations on your new POTUS. Have fun.
Well played!
I love the throwing in of the Religion… it add so much to the argument.
You can always tell the Religious Right by how wild the claims are and how much proof they have for them. Also, Picky, if your going to keep calling liberals Marxist, i’m going to start calling you a fundamentalist.
Nobody care’s a “a Black man won office.” Nobody gives a damn. They’re pissed a Marxist socialist who hung out with Saul Alinsky types got elected. Good God I’m tired of hearing about racism. It’s dead. There are still pockets out there, of course, but they’ve been marginalized and pushed to the fringes and have no power any longer.
Wow…spoken like someone who dismisses anything with which they can’t identify.
He should have said: “Your racist, xenophobic shenanigans cost the f***ing election!! Thanks a lot! Now shut the f*** up!