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  1. Alcar says:

    Epoch fail indeed.
    It’s 2001-2008

    • Karen says:

      Then wouldn’t it be 2001-2009 since he’s still there until Jan 20?

    • segaphile says:

      Indeed. Of course, though, it’s about Bush, and therefore, this will be ignored for a cheap laugh. Ha ha.

      • bob says:

        is it about bush or the idiots who voted for him??

          • metonymy says:

            Those of us that remember what he did to Texas might consider the start date to be much earlier than that.

            • froofrou says:

              Bush wasn’t the problem. The governor’s seat in Texas is weak by design. The lieutenant gov is actually running the state. Bullock, wasn’t it? Anyway, since Bush, Perry has pretty much been a waste of usable space. We should install cabinets in his forehead. No one would know the difference, and at least we would get something useful.

              • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

                LOL. Never been to TX. Don’t know much about it other than my companies customer service site there SUCKS compared to ours (in FL).

                • froofrou says:

                  There’s a lot of stuff in Texas that’s awesome, our governor, however, should be a tourist destination for the great whooshing sound that happens every time he opens his mouth.
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                  I really love Texas though. You couldn’t pay me enough to leave (and I had that job offer a few months ago, but who wants to live in northeat Iowa? I mean, come on!!!!) :-)

                  • metonymy says:

                    It is a weak governorship, but he blew quite a bit of the stuff that came across his desk. Executing the retarded for example. If a guy asks for a doggie bag from his last meal, then he’s probably not what anyone in their right mind would call competent.

                    • froofrou says:

                      Don’t fault Texas for having a Death Row Express Lane. It’s in our nature to make sure that if you kill someone, we will kill you back :-)
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                      (with appologies to Ron White)

                      • froofrou says:

                        That’s the staunchly right wing nut part of my nature. I feel that if you’re old enough to murder someone, you’re old enough to suffer the (terminal) consequences. If you’re sane enough to murder someone, you deserve to suffer the consequences. If you’re insane enough to murder someone, then consider it a gene pool purge that will keep you from breeding your crazy genes into the general population.
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                        But that’s just me :-)

                        • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

                          OMG I love you, i may be a liberal with lsightly socialist economic leanings, but i’m a big fan of the death penalty murder (and someitmes for rape…).

                          Also, why can’t we start surgically castrating child molesters? Seriously…

                        • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

                          oh crap… due to bad grammar my above comment might read odd. i meant a agree with you froofrou i meant “i’m a big fan of the death penalty *for* murder” – the way i typed it the first time looks like i’m mocking you…

                        • PiMan says:

                          I’m against the death penalty, and even the life penalty (because a life in prison is not a life at all), but I agree with the castration thing.

                        • Fred Fnord says:

                          Well, the problem with the castration thing (and, for that matter, the death penalty) is that it’s so hard to undo once you figure out that he was actually innocent.

                          This is especially true in Texas, where their supreme court has ruled that anyone does have the right to have a lawyer, but you don’t have the right to an AWAKE lawyer. Seriously. Someone appealed his case because his court appointed attorney slept pretty much all the way through it and he was sentenced to death, and the supreme court basically ruled ‘nowhere in the constitution does it say that you have the right to a competent, awake lawyer… just a lawyer’.

                          He was executed. Later evidence suggests he might well have been innocent.

                          But oh well. Better to kill a hundred innocent men than let one guilty one go free, right?

                      • metonymy says:

                        So now we both kill the retarded AND make fun of their death. I’m having trouble picking an adjective. Nominees include: sick, sad, disturbing, and pathetic.

                        You already killed the guy. No need to pile on.

                        • froofrou says:

                          How is that making fun of someone? If you murder, you should die for it. Simple as that. No distinctions between young and old, sane and insane. You murder, you die. Easy.

                        • froofrou says:

                          On a related note, I’m all for if you catch someone in the act, and I mean red handed, seeing him fire the gun or stab the knife or whatever, go ahead and dispense justice right then and there. I know that’s not workable and has far too many oportunities for abuse, but I have such a staunch view against murder that I think we should just go ahead and purge the death rows and get rid of them. Clean out those areas so we’ll have space for the other crimminals. Or better yet, get rid of them altogether.
                          -
                          Like I said, that’s the right wing nut part of my brain speaking :-)

                        • metonymy says:

                          If you think that you’re being a right wing nut as you say something, then you’re probably right ;)

                          do we kill people for third degree murder? manslaghter? How about the guy who runs over a kid because he’s talking on his cell phone?

                          I’d also have a lot more sympathy if we were not 12 times more likely to kill a black guy for the same crime. That pesky equal protection under the law thing.

                        • froofrou says:

                          Yes, yes, and yes. If you think you’re going to die for a murder, then you’ll be more careful :-)
                          -
                          Just a note: I realize there is no way my idea would work. But it’s nice to think that murderers would one day come to justice.

                        • Minataur says:

                          OMG! I live in Texas too- I lived across the street from the Walls unit ( where they do the executions) while I was in college. The news cameras would always focus on the four or five candlelight vigil protestors against the death penalty, but would never show the 50-100 college students having an “Old Sparky” party next to them. Especially if it was a particularily nasty killer.
                          And funny how everyone on Death Row suddenly became “Retarded” overnight, no matter what their documented IQ was !
                          And yeah, “HairSpray boy” sucks as a Governor!

                        • froofrou says:

                          My husband used to work at the Ellis unit, where they send all of the idiots who keep trying to escape. Funny how Texas doesn’t have a successful escape yet :-) They may have gotten out, but they sure didn’t stay out! My husband tells stories about working in Seg. He loved it!

                        • I LOVE living in Texas. I am at Texas A&M University WHOOP
                          And I say let the murderers fry lol

                        • froofrou says:

                          Maybe one day A&M will beat Texas on Thanksgiving *evil smile*
                          -
                          OW! Don’t hit! I’m kidding! I got accepted to A&M, dammit!!!! :-)
                          -
                          Let em fry? H3ll, let’s bring back the firing squad and charge them for the bullet!

                        • 2 years in a row, lets make it 3!

                          SAW VARSITYS HORNS OFF WHOOP

                        • Erin says:

                          Whoop!

                        • markmier says:

                          Rice FTW. Go Owls!

                        • Hey erin, does it count as pulling out if i do it via internet? (only aggies know this isn’t dirty) I am not supposed to whoop lol

                      • Sheesh says:

                        That would be a little more acceptable if you actually convicted the RIGHT PERSON a little more often…. From outside Texas, it looks like you’re just happy to kill anybody, as long as someone dies.

                  • blah says:

                    I know it’s a typo, but Northeat Iowa makes me giggle.

                  • Char says:

                    Dude, if you can find a job in North Iowa, you’re doing better than a lot of Iowans.

                  • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

                    but it gets cold in Iowa right? i’ve only seen snow once … :/ which sucks. I do want to go to TX, i’ve ehard there is some really beautiful coutryside there, and that the music scene in Austin is outstanding. Also Froo, you may know this, I heard that Austin is like a gay mecca, only a gay mecca with COOl gay people, is this true?

                    • froofrou says:

                      Yes, yes it is :-) My best friend loves Austin. And the city in which I live is also breaking the mold where the percentage of gay to straight is concerned, but for some reason it’s all female. And not lipstick *shudder* :-)
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                      You should come to Texas! Especially in April right after a lot of rain. You can’t beat the Bluebonnets for just sheer, hurt your eyes beauty as you’re driving down the highway.

                      • Minataur says:

                        Austin and New Braunsfels rock !

                      • Erin says:

                        I live in the Schertz / Cibolo area just south of New Braunfels. I drive out to the hill country every spring to see the flowers. It is just breath-taking.

                      • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

                        in fl (well the central part) we have lots of orange groves. not so much with the beauty, but the scent of blooming ornage blossoms always make me so…wistfully happy.
                        bluebonnets are awesome, i used to get them and snap dragons for my mom from the local flower shop.

                        my lil’ sister and her partner live in ashville, NC which has the highest gay-straight ration in the country (according to NPR), it’s mostly women too, but a healthy balance of butch and lipstick. mostly though they are all hippies, lol.

                    • Juses is a trad says:

                      Go to Austin. The rest of Texas should secede.

              • BobThePissed says:

                Except for the Trans-Texas Corridor (and other toll projects) that he and his cronies all profited from. He is running this state into the ground and making the uber-rich land developers even richer at the expense of the rest of us.

    • Ben says:

      hahaha you failed too its 2001-2009 unless you’re planning on killing him

  2. miner says:

    Wow- not only has Obama’s aunt been living in a public housing project in Boston in poverty ( and on public assistance), she’s an illegal alien !
    Also, the “tax cuts” limit has now dropped to $120,000 a year. Look forward to more decreases until it hits your level.

    • PortlandMark says:

      “the โ€œtax cutsโ€ limit has now dropped to $120,000 a year”

      Citation required please.

      Stupid troll.

        • I would look at that, but being water boarded with Kool Aid multiple times has caused me to hate all things Fox news.

          • Musicmom870 says:

            Are you kidding? Fox news is “fair and balanced”. They said so themselves, so there you have it.

            • Charlie Foxtrot says:

              You guys bit…Don’t you know that it’s Megabob on one of his rants — Bob, go back to your bunker until you can spell Bob backwards.

              • Literate says:

                A citation was requested, and I simply provided the source.

                Jeezabus. Is this how all new people are treated?

                • froofrou says:

                  No, just make sure that you realize you’re on a site where conservatives are outnumbered. If you can’t provide a source from outside of Fox News or Rush Limbaugh, don’t bother, because no one will listen. And always make sure you’re respectful, that way you won’t get dismissed outright.

                  • Literate says:

                    Thank you for your kindness.
                    That story was in all the MSM in various forms; I wasn’t aware that I had to provide a specific source. And I don’t subscribe to RL, so that won’t be a problem.
                    I prefer to form my own opinions.

                    • pax says:

                      hear, hear. i try to read articles from all over, regardless of their publication’s leanings. you can’t rely on networks to be “fair and balanced” but with a bit of time and reading between the lines, you yourself can. and what better way to be well informed on the other side’s idiocy than by reading their article and seeing for yourself what they’re saying.

                      maybe it’s a remnant of being a debater in high school and college, but I always prefer to hear what the other side says for themselves rather than hearing what my side says they’re saying. everyone’s biased, trust no one.

                      i sound like a conspiracy theorist, haha.

                • deadcat says:

                  Welcome to the internet. Don’t expect people to be polite.

      • Jamieteevee says:

        Miner is referring to a radio interview in which Bill Richardson misspoke. Let’s please note that Bill Richardson is NOT Obama’s financial adviser, nor is he actually associated with the campaign in any other way than that he is a Democrat and he is stumping for the team. I think he is tired, like anybody working for Either candidate.

        • froofrou says:

          Biden said they were down to $150,000 within this last week :-) Then they went back up to $250,000, then back down to $200,000.
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          And I love how it’s a misspeak when Obama’s campaign does it, but BURN THE WITCH if McCain’s people do it :-)

          • BDogg581 says:

            It should be noted that it wasn’t “back down to $200,000″ as you said, but lower.

            Originally it was $250,000 individually, and now it’s “families earning $200,000″

            Kind of a big difference, as that really makes it down to ~$100,000 per person (and I’m not sure what the individual limit is, if there is one).

            • LS says:

              Wow a $100,000 per person? Do you make that? Cuz I sure as HELL don’t, and neither do a LOT of people in this country. So cry me a river. It’s not like people making a $100,000 a year are in poverty. That’s REALLY good money.

              • froofrou says:

                Go back to his previous policies. He voted for a tax increase on people making $42,000 a year. I will have to search for a cite on that, but it was when he was a state senator (I think). Now, if he’s willing to do that (and I make almost that much……..my cost of living raise plus my merit raise should put me pretty close), AND he keeps going back and forth on his actual policy regarding the increases in the first place, *AND* he has no way to pay for the plans he wants to implement without bankrupting the country or raising taxes out the whazoo, it makes me nervous. Almost as nervous as a goat at a redneck tailgate party.

                • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                  That’s right, only people making more than $200,000 deserve a tax break, the rest of you should be glad the wealthy let you work!

              • BDogg581 says:

                You miss the point. He’s claiming that his tax increases won’t hurt small businesses, which provide a great deal of the new jobs in the country.

                The lower you put the limit, the more businesses/people will be affected.

                Not to mention the fact that when you tax businesses more, prices go up, so poorer consumers are affected as well.

                • vervain says:

                  Just to give some perspective:
                  1971 Tax Rate for Highest Earners = 70%
                  1985 Tax Rate for Highest Earners = 50%
                  2008 Tax Rate for Highest Earners = 35%
                  Obama Proposed Tax Rate for Highest Earners = 39%

                  • Seth says:

                    The Laffer curve describes the relationship between tax rates and government income. Obviously, if the tax rate is zero, income is zero. As you raise the tax rate, income also increases, up to a point. Because at 100% taxation, no one would work. After you reach the peak of the Laffer curve, raising taxes lowers income, as the economy slows down.

                    The argument is, where is the point of greatest revenue? You can’t actually experiment to find out, because there are so many uncontrollable variables in an economy, it is hard to tell if the economy is responding to your actions, or doing what it was going to do anyway.

                    Most studies put the high point of the Laffer curve at 65%. Of course, right wing and libertarian studies put it much, much lower, but it is all about the assumptions you use, because as I said, you can’t do controlled experiments on the economy.

                    In any case, the most recent government study (they ARE interested in getting the most revenue, after all) shows that we are on the left hand side of the Laffer curve, where raising taxes raises revenue.

    • n8 says:

      That’s right, go after the family since you can’t win on issues or character. You are the epitome of sleaze and vileness, and you richly deserve the loss you’re about to be handed.

    • Ceefax says:

      You guys have already tried this “Obama’s second cousin knew someone who dropped and American flag on the floor once”, about 200 times and it’s never worked. Maybe there’s just about enough time for the GOP to stop talking about Obama and start talking about themselves, why people should vote for them, instead of desperately trying to find absurd (and usually flat out untrue) reasons not to vote for the opponent. I wouldn’t bet on it though, Republicans are more obsessed with Barack HUSSAIN!!!1 Obama than even the most ardent Democrats.

      • froofrou says:

        Now hang, on. Miner is a serious troll, and an idiot, but there is some validity to the fact that the beloved aunt mentioned many times in ‘Dreams of My Father’ is living in a slum in Boston. She’s apparently ‘an exemplary resident’ of said slum, but no one knew she was Obama’s aunt until this week. It does fly in the face of being ‘my brother’s keeper, my sister’s keeper.’ Especially since he has a brother (half brother, really) in Africa living on $12 a year. Now, the brother may be very happy and not care a bit about his more famous half brother in America, but the aunt situation seems a little fishy.

        • Ceefax says:

          What should he be doing? Giving her handouts? Bribing officials to accept her asylum request? Taking her to the docks and shoving her on a boat back home so her being here illegally doesn’t impact his presidental chances? Nothing that he could do in this situation would be the right course of action in the eyes of a campaign that is based solely on slandering their opponent, nothing.

          • Literate says:

            If she’s his beloved “Aunti Zeituni” why doesn’t he make her his illegal domestic? Or perhaps his “champion dancer?โ€

            Or haven’t you read “Dreams from My Father?”

            • Ceefax says:

              “why doesnโ€™t he make her his illegal domestic”

              That would be great

              “BARACK HUSSAIN ADOLF BUNDY KRIPPIN OBAMA HIRES ILLEGALS!”

              • Literate says:

                She’s illegal anyway, so she might as well live under a “citizen’s” roof doing something productive.
                And you didn’t answer the question.

                • Ceefax says:

                  I did answer the question, because he’d be crucified for it. You see nothing wrong with keeping an illegal citizen family member as a maid?

                  • Literate says:

                    Let me restate the question.
                    Havenโ€™t you read โ€œDreams from My Father?โ€

                    Crucified for having his aunt live with him and care for his children? Why? My great aunt live with us in when I was a child; in exchange for room and board she provided us with exceptional, loving childcare and meals. Why not do the same in this situation?

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  I’m starting to suspect that you are not, in fact, as literate as you claim.

                  • Literate says:

                    I never made any claims; I simply adopted a moniker.

                    What makes you suspicious that I am not literate? The fact that I offered a perfectly acceptable and logical suggestion, or the fact that I did so here?

                    • Jane St.Clair says:

                      Sarcasm โ€“ cutting language, remarks that mean the opposite of what they seem to say and are intended to mock or deride. Could also use: irony, mockery, derision, scorn, disdain, cynicism.
                      -
                      What I was actually remarking on was your suggestion that the solution was for Obama to hire his illegal aunt to work as his maid.

                      • Literate says:

                        I’m not being sarcastic, and I never said “hire.”

                      • i_tego_arcana_dei says:

                        Not defending Literate here, but for me (cause I’m dumb) sarcasm is hard to properly use on the internet, because so much of sarcasm is tone of voice/facial expressions. I sometimes have a hard time discerning sarcasm in texts/IMs/comments. Doese that make any sense?

                        • PiMan says:

                          Makes a lot of sense, which is why many people will make the sacasm obvious by adding [/sarcasm] or a smiley to the end of their post or to an immediate self reply.

                  • Uncle Fester says:

                    Would that be an ad hominem, Jane? I am SHOCKED… and disgusted.

                    To think you could stoop so low… etc. etc…

                    (insert more handwringing here)

                    ah, sarcasm, the lowest form of wit…

          • froofrou says:

            It just seems a little weird that he seems to be ignoring the fact that she’s living in squalor when Obama’s main tennant is taking care of those who are less fortunate. Last time I checked, he’s a very wealthy man, so why hasn’t he arrainged for her to at least move to a slightly better part of town? Why hasn’t he greased the wheels of her assylum? He’s in a position to at least help that process out (I didn’t say bribe, let’s keep everything above board here). She is family, after all, and apparently a very important part of his. It’s not like I’m asking for him to support me or something.

            • Ceefax says:

              Oh, please, this is getting ridiculous, can you imagine the scandal if he “Greased the wheels” of an asylum application of an illegal who had been declined? If he was cutting her a cheque every month do you think Miner would be posting “Well, I don’t agree with his economic policies, but it’s good of him to keep his illegal aunt comfortable”?

              Or do you think it would be “Hussain Obama funds illegal immigrants! While legal American citizens in surrounding apartments are feeling the pinch, illegal black spotted buying PREMIUM BRANDS with Obama’s money!” We’ve already seen this kind of stuff in the fabricated stories about Michelle buying expensive food at hotels.

              I also think describing the area she’s in as a “slum” and “squalor” smells very much like the elitism that liberals are often accused of.

              • froofrou says:

                What would you describe it as? And note that I specifically said ‘not bribe.’ Why can’t he talk to the right people to get her naturalized?
                -
                It’s a minor issue, I’ll admit, but still troubling from someone who describes this particular aunt as ‘beloved’ and says that she never had a safety net to fall back into. Apparently, she doesn’t have family that she can depend on either. So it’s a contradiction of Obama’s own policy ideas, and makes him look like a bad person. Can you imagine the hatred and vitreol if it had been McCain or Palin’s aunt living illegally in sub-standard housing?

                • Ceefax says:

                  I say the most troubling thing is that the Bush administrations immigration policy was willing to send Obama’s half-aunt-on-his-mother’s-side back to a country which has seen sustained violence and bloodshed, with 1,500 people slaughtered in one short period of violence alone.

                  I don’t see how Obama using (or abusing, as I’m sure it would be seen as) his position in order to get special treatment from immigration for a family member would be seen as much better than a monetary bribe to be honest.

                  • Literate says:

                    Half-aunt-on-his-mother’s side? What?

                    Oh, and …

                    Welcome home,โ€ Zeituni said kissing me on both cheeks . . .

                    • Ceefax says:

                      That’s his relationship to her.

                      • Literate says:

                        No it’s not … the woman is a black African from Kenya.

                        Obama campaign spokesman Reid Cherlin confirmed to the Boston Herald yesterday that Onyango, who lives on Flaherty Way in South Boston, is Obama’s aunt on his father’s side.

                        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                          dude…shut up already, you are making youself look stupid.

                        • Literate says:

                          How am I making myself look stupid? She IS on his father’s side. Obama’s mother is a white American.

                          Thanks for the welcome. Much appreciated.

                • ema says:

                  If it was a relative of Palin’s it would be plastered over all the front pages of the newspapers and in People magazine…

                  • Ceefax says:

                    And you’d be saying how disgusting it was for people to bring it up.

                    • ema says:

                      Yes, and she and the McCain campaign would have to explain it ad nauseium. But this times it’s Obama, and the story is nowhere to be seen! It’s just a little peep. What does he have to say about it? I would love to know.

                      • Ceefax says:

                        “the story is nowhere to be seen!”

                        It’s on AP, Yahoo, msnbc, fox, timesonline, CNN, cbs… Where have you been looking for it?

                        • ema says:

                          Well honestly I never saw it and I am on yahoo everyday, but I never looked for it either… I bet they don’t have an Obama explanation either, but I will try and find some of them and read about it myself.

                • me says:

                  oh please if he did anything at all you would be here complaining about how he abused his power to subvert the immigration laws of America, anything he did at all in this situation republicans would condemn so don’t act like he’s not doing the right thing anything he did the republicans would consider “wrong”.

                  To the person saying if it were palin it would be all over the papers probably because the republicans would try to use it “see Palin has a poor relative that she really cares about so she knows how poverty effects people so she is the best informed to help them” and you would all be on here saying how it proves how down to earth she is and how her whole family isn’t part of the “wealthy Elite” and would probably be advocating how her having an aunt in the exact same situation is a positive instead of a negative it’s all spin with you hypocrites.

                • bluejade says:

                  If it’s government housing that’s being described as sub-standard, wouln’t the thr onus of responsibility for it being sub-standard fall on the majority of previous office holders and policy setters?
                  And speaking as someone who’s ex-spouse was in this country for years
                  illegally; please don’t be hasty to judge. There’s a lot of bullshit that stands between you and becoming a citizen. It can be done in many cases, but it takes focus, money and support.
                  Meanwhile, society expects you to fulfill the demands of citizenship. The entity at fault for my spouse’s lack of citizenship was his well-meaning parents. Some things fall through the cracks.

              • froofrou says:

                And to be fair, I think miner would be posting crap no matter what the issue is about. He’s a tool.

              • Literate says:

                Right. Instead, I get to fund her. So I’m his “aunt’s keeper.” Yeah for me!

                An Associated Press story about poor people buying lottery tickets at cheque-cashing shops, from Cambridge, Massachusetts, on May 25, 2003, quotes a Zeituni Onyango whom it describes as out of work and without much money. โ€œIt’s like when I feel luck might fall I do that, like manna might come from Heaven. Thatโ€™s when I buy it,โ€ she told AP.

            • Rick says:

              Your diversion tactics aren’t working. McCain’s going to lose. Too bad, so sad.

            • LS says:

              Have you considered that maybe he HAS offered help and she’s one of those people who doesn’t like to accept charity from their relatives? Cuz you know, that never happens….

            • Uncle Fester says:

              The word is ‘tenet’…

              and I can imagine the squawking if he’d done ANYTHING for the woman. Your beloved Right Wing radio ‘personalities’ (I use the term loosly) would have had a field day.

              One has to love the hypocrisy… Cylla and Charybdis. Any proof he knew she was here?

          • Jessie says:

            Why not? That is the main argument of Democratic policies isn’t it? Hand outs. If he’s going to continue with norm liberal policy, he can at least do the same for his own family.
            Can’t beat that saying ‘work harder! Millions on welfare depend on you!’
            The basis of liberal arguments.

            • Ceefax says:

              Yeah, a better form of wealth distribution is to take money off firemen, nurses and teachers and give it to bank CEOs and Paris Hilton.

              • ema says:

                I’m not a fan of that bailout, but if it will help to recover our 401k and investments I think the firemen, etc. would be glad for it. It didn’t all go into the pockets of CEO’s anymore than our tax increases under Obama will go into the pockets of government beaurocrats.

              • froofrou says:

                You’re avoiding the point. Is Obama going to hold to his own stated policies or not? You can’t pick and choose, apparently.

              • Jessie says:

                Or you know, take money out of the pockets of small business owners who are the back bone of this country and put that money in the pockets of welfare recipients who have children for the soul purpose of receiving more money from the government. Nice try though. And as far as highly profitable people go, how is it right to take money from productive members of society and give it to nonproductive people, or more to the point, leeches?

                • minerva146 says:

                  So you’re saying the entire MIDDLE class are actually welfare recipients and not contributing to society? Pretty sure we have always been talking about giving the struggling middle class a break, so that they DON’T wind up sinking into poverty.

                • Sheesh says:

                  Why do you tax whiners always think that the taxes are going straight to welfare recipients? Only a tiny fraction ever goes to welfare recipients, it’s just a target of convenience invented by the right. It’s expensive to run a country this size, it requires a lot of infrastructure, but all you can think about is how it might cost you an extra twelve cents, IF you actually made enough money to have the higher taxes. The slogan was “no taxation without representation”, but you all seem to think it was simply “no taxation”. It’s the dues you pay to live here, and I’m sick of hearing you unpatriotic ‘real Americans’ whine about it INCESSANTLY.

    • pwnd says:

      Wow – NO ONE CARES. Damn butthurt McCain fans.

  3. Freep says:

    Well, that’s your opinion. I think Bush has done a good job. He’s kept terrorism at bay since 9/11 (which was planned for five years under Clinton), and freed Iraq (which we haven’t heard much about lately as CNN only reports the bad news.)

    It’s also nice to have a president who loves his country and his wife. It’s been a while since we’ve seen that sort of thing. He’s an honorable, decent man, I’m going to miss him.

    • BDogg581 says:

      I don’t know about Bush having “done a good job” as you say, but at the same time I don’t agree with the full fail. As you say, though, the biggest measure of success here is that, as much as people can complain about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, despite warnings both by terrorists and the media of another attack, there has not been a single successful terrorist plot in the US since 9/11.

    • ema says:

      I don’t think he was all that bad, one thing I do fault him for though is his poor communication skills. Also, his spending and the huge increase in the deficit. He did defeat Al Qaeda and destroyed their training camps and they have not been able to recover from it. That’s why they are praying for a Bush, republican humiliation in the elections.

      • Ceefax says:

        Bush is the single best thing to ever happen to the Al Quaeda franchise.

        • ema says:

          What, now that their training camps are destroyed and they can’t even get a video out on the internet until it’s 2 weeks too late? Doesn’t seem all that great to me.

          • Ceefax says:

            He’s the best recruiting poster they’ve ever had and he’s the reason for their huge increase in support. An Obama victory would be disasterous for an organisation that has had at its lifeblood a Bush administration wholly complicit in their efforts to paint America as the great Satan. In fact even if McCain gets in they’re going to take a serious hit. There’s nothing that they’d like better than another 8 years of Dubya.

            • ema says:

              Al Qaeda and rich Saudi sponsored madrassa schools are doing all the recruiting they need. We are supposed to NOT protect ourselves and our interests because we might make them mad? That’s nuts. They are praying for a Bush defeat and an Obama victory so he will leave them alone and they can build themselves back up to pre-Bush levels and plan for new attacks.

              • metonymy says:

                Go after Al Qaeda, please. But do it with some skill. Bring the weight of the world (which we had with us right after 9/11) down on them rather than making it a personal pissing contest. It should be embarrassing as a world leader if your attitude makes even the people who agree with you abandon the effort.

              • Ceefax says:

                What utter rot, especially since the Saudis have been best buddies of the Bush administration for the past 8 years. Do they tell you about how things are going in Afghanistan over there (click my name). If Bush hadn’t abused his position as commander in chief to send them on a personal errand maybe the allied forces would have a chance of victory in Afghanistan. Instead Bush turned Iraq into an absolute cluster **** for four years, playing straight into Bin Laden’s hands (Bin laden who’s been saying for over a decade that his goal was to draw the US into a war in the middle east.)

                What Bush should have done is fight back with strength, instead of being a weak and pathetic leader chasing personal dreams and distractions.

                • froofrou says:

                  I actually agree with you on that. If I had my way, we’d be setting up the Middle Eastern Wal-Mart and Sam’s Club where Afganistan and Iraq used to me. Mow it down, I say.

                  • ema says:

                    I agree and they waited far to long to increase troop levels with the “surge”. That war could have been finished much faster, another thing I don’t like about Bush’s performance as Commander in Cheif…

                    • froofrou says:

                      He’s been trying to please all of the people all of the time, and it pleases none of the people none of the time. He quit sticking to his principles about three years into his first term, and that’s when I lost respect for him.

                  • n8 says:

                    Well, that -would- give China a nice return on their investment, seeing as they’re the creditors loaning us the money to keep this war going. Heck, that reveals the situation in a whole new light… we’re just acting as China’s cat’s-paw.

                • ema says:

                  I didn’t even see any mention of Al Quaeda in that article, that was the main reason we went into Afghanastan in the first place, not the Taliban although it was nice to be able to get those poor women out of their homes and back to school and work. If we have to work with the Taliban in some way to restore stability to the region, then I don’t see that as a complete loss. As long as they don’t provide haven and a place for the training camps to start up again. Also, I have no reason to believe Bin Ladin is still alive.

              • stepnerd says:

                Click on my name (I hope it works) to see what international opinion of the US election is. Scroll down to Iraq and compare their preference to your allies’ preferences. Doesn’t look like they’re praying for an Obama victory to me!

              • Sheesh says:

                Would those be the same rich Saudis that Bush got on the first plane out of town after 9/11?

      • metonymy says:

        Oy, where to begin…
        Defeat Al Qaeda? oof. Makes you wonder why we’re going after high value Al Qaeda targets like the one we just got in Islamabad, or how they capture and execute our allies (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C11%5C01%5Cstory_1-11-2008_pg7_24)

        In my opinion his worst failures are not sexy topics. Letting domestic infrastructure go to hell for example. It won’t cost us during his presidency, but when the failing roads and bridges really start to go down, it will either hurt business, or the national pocketbook when we pay for the neglected repairs.

        I would continue with my laundry list but I need to go to the store and get some more Kool-aid.

      • pwnd says:

        Agreed, it’s so nice to see a man love his wife and not ditch her for another woman when she was injured. Nancy Reagan couldn’t even stand to be in the same room as Cindy. Damn.

    • Jessie says:

      I second that motion.

    • Tessie says:

      Please contact as many people as you possibly can between now and November 4, and tell them exactly what your post says. Thank you.

      • Ceefax says:

        You’ll have to do it on the down-low, the McCain campaign would have a fit if their volunteers were going around saying they liked the Bush administration when they’ve been spending the last 6 months trying to distance themselves from him.

        Don’t get me wrong, Obama’s not perfect. I dislike his religiously motivated right wing attitude to some social issues particularly. But on defence and foreign policy at least he’s already looking stronger and more coherent than the previous administration was.

        • Tessie says:

          “the McCain campaign would have a fit if their volunteers were going around saying they liked the Bush administration when theyโ€™ve been spending the last 6 months trying to distance themselves from him.”

          Which was pretty much the entire reason for my post. If Freep actually went around telling people how he thought Bush et al was a super duper president who had done a nifty job, he would, at the very least, remind people that a) Bush exists and that b) Bush is a Republican, which, as you correctly note, the McCain folks can’t disavow/distance themselves from/bury in the backyard fast enough. Therefore, I’m hoping that he gets the gospel out to everyone possible between now and election day.

          Hmmm… I may be better at subtlety than I thought. [ponders]

          • Ceefax says:

            Sometimes sarcasm doesn’t come across on the internet very well. Also, sometimes my comprehension skills do not work on the internet very well :P

            • froofrou says:

              I think you comprehend just fine, otherwise ema and I wouldn’t bother debating with you. You don’t pick out a dolt to whom to share your ideas, it’s not sporting :-)

            • Tessie says:

              I’m not 100% sure that I’m able to say anything that is NOT sarcastic, so I tend to put a lot of qualifiers in my sentences just so my meaning is clear.

              Sarcastics Anonymous
              “Oh, yeah, like we really need a 12-step group!!”

    • gnn1 says:

      oh yes, he kept terrorism at bay, since we’re OFTEN under terrorist attack. Attacks from foreigners, what, 3 times since 1942?

      And Im sorry, but Iraq may not be under the rule of Saddam hussein anymore, but it’s FAR from free. Internal unrest and all that. If it were truly FREE we could pull out without worries, no?

    • minerva146 says:

      Except he had intelligence about 9/11 and chose not to act on it. There’s a chance it could have been prevented.

    • minerva146 says:

      Pretty sure I couldn;t come up with honorable and decent either. He’s lied throughout his presidencey and been caught at it numeroust times. He’s allowed his staff, cabinet, cronies, etc to ignore congressional subpoena’s. There’s a long list to disprove the “honorable” bit. There’s enough evidence to impeach, but Pelosi’s too weak to see it through.

  4. Tom Trifik says:

    OK OK OK
    I’m convinced!
    I’m going to vote for Barack Obama.

    Because Bush is President NOW it make McCain a BAD CHOICE!

  5. Jane St.Clair says:

    Why PK?! Why must you play on my sympathies and continue to make this man adorable to me?! WHY???!!!!

    • ema says:

      LOL! He does look cute holding that widdle flag! ;)

      • Jane St.Clair says:

        Well, and the tears in his eyes with the gingham tie… adorable! I think the first signs of this were the pic with the owl and the myspace one, and then we stopped being all about the Bush is dumb, and Bush is adorable (yet slightly special needs).

        • ema says:

          Right, I didn’t even notice the gingham tie! He is becoming less and less threatening I guess and will now be able to be just a cute little screw up who just wants a pat on the head! :)

  6. Charlie Foxtrot says:

    This is actually Jane. Since my computer is once again infected and being fixed by my computer savvy cousin, I decided to borrow dad’s for the morning. Now I actually have to get some lesson planning done (my excuse for borrowing said computer) and I need to switch the name back since it is clear that Charlie can’t manage to do this on his own. *sigh* So this post is really just to get his computer to autofill his name again (and maybe just a little bit of venting at that)

  7. dot says:

    Number of fails in this picture:

    1. Assuming he does not die before then, Bush will be in office until 2009, not 2008.
    2. Bush assumed office in 2001, not 2000.
    3. Presumably, the word that the person who captioned this photo wanted was “epic,” meaning “extending beyond the usual or ordinary especially in size or scope,” not “epoch,” meaning “an event or a time marked by an event that begins a new period or development.”

    So, in a caption that has four words (counting the dates as words, which they technically are not, but work with me), three of the four are fails. Which begs the question: who fails more in this picture, the one who is being insulted or the one attempting to do the insulting?

    (definitions from Merriam-Webster Online: http://www.merriam-webster.com)

  8. Roy says:

    Yes, he’s leaving! And lets hope the ‘Bush r Dumb’ jokes go with him.

    • Tom Trifik says:

      YES! Then we’ll get “Obama R Dumb” jokes.

      Well, in about 6 months after the media figures out how screwed we are by electing such an incompetent “media personality” that they lovingly created.

      But remember, an incompetent “media personality” with a cool mantra of “CHANGE” and Marxist/Socialist leanings is so much more preferable than another horrid republican.

      VOTE OBAMA it’ll be CHANGE for SURE!

      • Skwearly Bob says:

        ***The previous message brought to you by an idiot!***
        ***Barack Obama is no more threat to the U.S. than Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, Osama Bin Laden, Nikita Khrushchev, Chairman Mao or any other nice radical killer with a Socialist-Marxist-Communistic-Fascist viewpoint!
        ***We should welcome his thoughts and embrace his plan to emulate those people despite all the death and failures during their reigns. We can do it! Yes we can!
        ***vote for Bob Barr, he won’t win so it won’t be Your Fault!

    • But then the market of anti-bush merchandise will crash! It was so huge that we’ll ALL feel the negative impact. :D lol

  9. Kase says:

    *Epic Fail*

  10. Anyone says:

    YOU KNOW, THAT’S REALLY RUDE. BECAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY AT A MEMORIAL FOR A FALLEN SOLDIER, WHICH WAS NOT BUSH’S FAULT, NO MATTER WHAT YOU WHACKS SAY.

    • Someone, waaahmbulance? We could use their assistance.

    • Tessie says:

      Yeah, because, you know, it’s not like he STARTED A WAR or any… thing…

      [crickets]

    • Charlie Foxtrot says:

      You have no idea what this is about. And, he is the “Commander in Chief” or so he likes to proclaim, and guess what…The commander is responsible for all his (her) unit does or fails to do, so yes it is his fault, you freaking moron.

    • Jane St.Clair says:

      *psssst* Hey….you over there. See that key? You know, the one above your shift key? Yeah. It’s a caps lock. See what it does is when you press it then everything you type is in capital letters. You wanna hit it for me? Yeah, cause your post is FREAKING ANNOYING!!!

      • CaplockWhacker says:

        Whack whack whack !!!!!!! on Anyone !

        • Jane St.Clair says:

          Look, I’m sorry, but I’m not going to go out with you. Masturbating on my every post isn’t going to change my mind. Someday you’ll find a girl that shares your interests in creating multiple names for yourself and posting on an internet forum in a disruptive and annoying way and it’ll be true love. I know it hurts right now, but soon you’ll see that it just was never going to work out between us. I’m flattered, really, but your green skin and trollish behavior are just a turn off for me. You understand, right?

    • PortlandMark says:

      Bush has *never* attended a memorial for a fallen soldier. Get over it, and please disable your stupid capslock.

  11. Charlie Foxtrot says:

    He’s such a sad little man ever since he ruined America.

  12. erika says:

    well, getting back to the actual lol-politician…

    i particularly enjoyed the fact that the word “epoch” was spelled as such, and not as “epic.” good play on words, to whomever was responsible for the caption. there you have a summation and title for the bush presidency. Epoch of Fail.

    and, in parting, it blows me away that people still think anything coming from Fox News could be reliable. i mean, are you serious?

    • Juses is a trad says:

      It’s pretty sad when one must watch BBC news to get unbiased news.

      • Uncle Fester says:

        I’d not rely on that… the Beeb tends to be pretty much Pro-Democrat in it’s reportage, although it does attempt to self apply a fairness doctrine. From a US stand point it’s more or less Pravda (back before it became the Weekly World News in Cyrillic), at least based on what I’ve seen of Liberal thought on here…

  13. lowly grunt says:

    Saved to my favorites.

    And durn you Jane, for once again pointing out his humanity….

    Makes it really hard to continue being angry at him but until he has some serious come to Jesus time, I’m keeping him at arms length.

  14. Gail says:

    He looks broken, as well he should.
    SHAME on him and his puppet masters!
    Send them to jail.

  15. Pirate77 says:

    Spell fail. But that’s liberals who think they have a funny.

  16. pax says:

    i’m just curious… why the use of the term “epoch?”

    just did a google search, and it doesn’t seem to apply.

    was it a typo? any body? bueller?

  17. Darnity says:

    George Bush will end up going down in history as one of the greatest presidents of the modern era.

  18. LadyoftheLake says:

    He’s either sad because he’s leaving, or because he now knows what the caption says about him is true.

    Hopefully it’s the latter.

  19. GW says:

    Bush is the best President in the past 16 years

  20. Nathan says:

    I appreciate you using a photo from a Funeral for our fallen solders. Very Tasteful. Thank you for your support.

  21. Archangel says:

    The true FAIL is that you misspelled “epic”



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