CHANGE…
CHANGE…even the trees are getting in on some of that action
(Barack Obama)
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Thirded
quartered, oh wait…
Fifthed. This is getting ridiculous. Following a stupid Palin bashing one, we have one with Obama…and trees. Wow.
sixed
Oh please….Democrats love to manufacture support out of nowhere…
Typical.
Why all the Negative Mccain Jokes? 99% on this site is toward Mccain and Palin, 1% is toward Obama, but make him look good like this joke. FACT CHECK: Obama is a socialist
Im sorry sir but you’ve just violated…. Oh hell.. enough with procedure…
Fact Check: Police, fire department, road systems…. socialist. And yet you seem
fine with those. Nice try… pay the citation and try again.
*writes a huge “L” on the citation and sticks it to sadsf’s forehead*
*Gives The Failcop a citation for service above and beyond the call of duty.*
*And gives Failcop a nice, snuggly hug!*
Does this mean Im up for the promotion to FailDetective?
No, we need you out on the streets.. sorry, that’s the way it’s gotta be.
But its cold out here this time of year!
Maybe you could be a failcop in Florida.
Why do you hate me minerva? WHY!?
LOL, San Diego?
Around here it would be the 7th ring of hell..
Could be worse, we could make him Failmetermaid. I think he should make detective before too long though. He can still work the streets. There is a lot of fail to detect.
I’m pretty sure the socialist candidate for president would disagree…
I agree with ya, sides it’s a really lame caption.
What do the candidates positions matter? It’s all about who’s an easier target for humor.
Obama is ripe for humor, I’ve made lots of these… none get posted.
They weren’t lame or mean, just funny. BUT the lame and mean and vicious anti-republican posts get put up 6 in a row?
Prove your are funny. Give us a link to all of them.
stop whining and make some negative obama lolz then
Is that his Messianic gesture causing the trees to change for him ?
It looks more like jedi mind control to me.
“This not the season you think it is” !
If you live in Oklahoma, it really isn’t. =/
It never is.
/voice of experience
I’d like to point out that Wisconsin is the same. D=
OMGOMGOMGOMG Obama’s not a muslim he’s a WICCAN!!!!1! (jk, for people who can’t recognize humor)
I wouldn’t have any problems voting for a Wiccan presidential candidate. We have given the followers of Christ enough change, let someone else have a go.
I was just poking fun at people who are so paranoid about Obama being a Muslim, lol.
Except that someone who’s not a christian would never, ever get elected. That “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” thing is nice in theory, but in practice it’s a load of bull.
In this country, at least. I honestly wonder if it’s different in any foreign nations?
I just realized how stupid this sounds…ugh. My bad.
How so?
Sadly, this is probably true as long as the Christian Right nutters have control of the media and have people believing their rewritten history of “America was founded as a christian nation” etc. If we manage to rebuild the wall of separation between church and state though, and people begin to realize that a particular faith is not what makes a good person or a great leader, then we can invalidate this argument.
A few choice Jefferson quotes can usually punch a hole in that “Christian nation garbage. Or you can shoot back “Deist nation, actually.”
I’m still waiting with great anticipation for the Republican Civil War, due to begin November 5th or so. Fiscals vs. Fundies, place your bets now!
Yeah, Palin is betting on the fundies winning. She’s planning on working on fundraising for 2012
Yeah, like the Christian Right (which is neither of course) would even understand the word “Deist”.
I’m thinking the fiscals will kick the fundies out. Fundies will become a third party which will garner an astounding % of the vote. In twelve years, the fiscals join the Democrats and in twenty, the two parties will switch their polarity again.
Your scenario is entirely plausible, but you neglected the part where the Code Pink / WWP faction splits off from the moderate Dems.
Then the Pinkers ally with the Fundies in the “Batsh*t Crazy” party.
LMFAO!
Biblicans vs. Goldwaters!
Except for the fact that they’re not really christians anyway. They just say that they are.
We need more people who live christianity and fewer that sell it, but thats just what this jew thinks.
I saw a bumper sticker that read: Come the rapture. Then we’ll have the earth to ourselves.”
Id rather more christians simply convert to full out Judaism.
maybe they’d chill out a bit! and thats what this pagan thinks.
My understanding is that for a person to be Christian, they just need to believe that Jesus is the son of their god.
It is entirely possible to follow a religion but do it badly.
That’s not exactly correct. Close, but not exact. In order to be a Christian, you have to believe that Jesus is your Saviour and that only by accepting His grace you will get into Heaven.
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If simply believing that Jesus is the Son of God will get you into Heaven, then Satan and all of his cronies will be meeting us there
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But you’re right, a LOT of Christians are Christians in name only, and by so doing make all of the rest of us look bad. Kind of like how extremist Muslims make Islam as a whole look like a kook fringe religion.
Clearly our definitions are similar but different. I would contend that Satan, as believed to exist by Christians, is a Christian.
Similarly, the Satan as believed to exist by Jewish people, is Jewish.
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Side note here: I’m not sure if it has appeared on your computer, but you post has a horizontal scroll bar.
It hasn’t
I’m sorry for the screwy post.
Nothing screwy about it. No words are hidden, the scroll bar only slides the tiniest bit.
Christians get into Heaven by my definition, and since Satan committed the unforgivable sin, he will never be there again. That’s where they differ
If God is all-powerful, then how can there be any sin that is beyond God’s capacity to forgive?
The unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Lucifer put himself as God’s equal or better, and got spanked for it. He’s not welcome in Heaven anymore, because he HAD the reward and gave it back. If you give back the Gift, God doesn’t offer it again.
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Note: that’s not the same as losing your salvation, that’s a different concept taught by a few denominations who like to scare their people into acting right. Nowhere in the Bible or any other canon does it say you can lose what God freely gives. You CAN give it up, however, but only if you had accepted it first.
What froofrou said plus here is my 2 cents. I don’t think it’s beyond God’s capacity, but I do believe he created a framework with rules through which he is perfecting us. He can’t change the rules or there would be no integrity, they have to be the same for everyone. This is the way he chose to do it, I have no explanation for the method but I am imperfect and finite and don’t understand at this time. The bible does say, somewhere I don’t actually remember, that “now we see as through a glass darkly”. Someday I think we will all understand.
1 Corinthians 13:12
9For we (U)know in part and we prophesy in part;
10but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
11When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.
12For now we (V)see in a mirror dimly, but then (W)face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also (X)have been fully known.
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You’re exactly right, ema.
That’s perfect, I love you!!
Thanks.
You start talking about the Bible and it brings out my innate right wing nut
I love that there is someone else who doesn’t mind talking about this stuff in mixed company! *hugs* 
It’s not nuts to talk about it, and I bet there are a few left wing nuts that love the scriptures too!
…in bed. Oh yeah, time to get biblical!
It doesn’t have a scroll bar on my computer either. Maybe your screen is *ahem* smaller than average?
LOL!!
It would be a combination of my screen resolution (1280×1024), poorly designed html/css, and the browser I’m using (Opera).
Everyone’s so up in arms saying Obama is a muslin. That’s simply not true, he’s a satinist…
(and yes, I’m aware of the misspellings)
LOL! Only because Michelle likes the silky feeling..
;P
Nothing compares to soft bedsheets…
you seam to im-ply this thread can be selvedged
Booorrriiiinnnnnggggggg……
Just imagine four years of this stupidity if he gets elected …
Imagine 2 months of McCain’s bumbling followed by 3 years and 10 months of Palin’s Comedy Show if he doesn’t.
You mean things will be really boring, like we won’t have wars or an economic crises or anything exciting and stressful like that? Why didn’t you say so sooner?!
It’s going to be hard to convince me that we wouldn’t at this point. With our track record, we’re going to be pulled into something again whether we get out of the sand-trap or not. I do like your troll-bash, though.
On that note, I just really still don’t like the guy, and not from a racist or “OMG ANTI-CHRIST” stance. It’s all for political reasons we’ve mentioned before. And the guy comes across as a general sleazeball, much like McCain does from time to time. So few choices… It’s almost like we don’t have the option of checking “Bob Barr” on our ballots when we vote. (Well, some states don’t, clearly, but still.) I’d like to suggest everyone look into him, that way they don’t just settle for the guy they hate less. Or whatever you want to call it.
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Sorry, kinda went off on a tangent there. Sorry to hi-jack the comment, Jane. ;D
Ok political reasons I understand, they’re always out there… but seriously…
Sleezeball? Why? Because he’s so calm when under fire? Because despite being
slammed with some of the worst slurs Ive ever heard a presidential candidate
been called, and doesnt loose his cool? Thats sleeze? Or is it because he looks
smoother in a suit than McCain? Is it because every attack thats been laid against
he’s calmly and rationally shot it down with reason and logic? I could say a lot
of things about both candidates… but sleezeball, neither of them are that.
Im not bashing your opinion, or saying its wrong… but just for my own
curiosity I MUST know why you feel that way.
I agree with Maxwell. Obama is a good and decent man. Just because he has the temerity to run against the Republicans and get within striking distance of victory, some feel the need to cast aspersions on his character. There is no evidence to indicate Obama is anything other than a family man and patriot.
I however dont agree with my using “loose his cool” instead of “lose his cool”
Dont worry.. I’ll be notifying the failcop on myself
Yeah, you can tell a lot about a person by how he treats his kids. As far as I know, Obama love his daughters more than anything. He calls them from the road, he does activities with them… He may not be perfect, some people have criticized that he doesn’t show this warm side in public, but I really don’t think he’s a sleaze.
Phaelin, I absolutely agree.
Edit: with the Bob Barr part. I don’t think Obama’s a sleeze, but I don’t like him that much. He’s simply the lesser of two evils for me.
Aye, I went a little over the top on my rant. He’s no sleaze, but I still don’t much care for the guy. Glad to see a sympathizer!
I’m glad to see another user of “aye.” We don’t agree politically, but I salute your use of “aye”!
Waye, thank you! ;D
That’s cool. All I was really trying to do was poke fun at EP’s tendency to respond with “oh yeah, well Obama…” to everything whether it’s relevent or not. Then I went to bed and you guys ran with it and had all the fun, so more power to you I say!
Hehe, Jane’s bed…
Oh, change. Like raising taxes on the rich and their companies so that they will pass their expenses on to the consumers, whose tax savings won’t even make a dent in mitigating the inflation and cost of living increase caused when those companies avoid getting taxed for outsourcing by hiring American and then cutting wages.
Or change like scrapping tens upon tens of billions in missile defense spending and Army FCS so that while every major military competitor with the United States is making their missiles more deadly and upgrading their troops’ capabilities we’ll be standing still waiting for them to catch up to us.
Or change like listening to speeches that would be better suited for TV dramas instead of looking at the long-term facts. (For example, Obama is the same dude who told a crowd in Selma AL that the civil rights marches that took place there were seen by his parents, and the courage of those people in Selma encouraged them to overcome the racial divide and have him, and that’s why he can claim he belongs in Selma, AL …. even though those marches didn’t happen until 1965, but his parents met in 1959 and had him in 1961 … but that didn’t stop the crowd from giving him a standing ovation for the TV cameras … that’s the “change from old washington politics” you’re voting for).
“This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama. ”
For fact checking, there’s a small portion of the remarks.
If you’ve bought into this trickle down voodoo then the simple solution is when you get your tax cut write a cheque to Bill Gates, Paris Hilton or WalMart Inc.
I think this trickle down BS is as a result of the republicans promoting politics of greed. “I earned it, it’s mine”, instead of what I can do for my country. That isn’t helping anybody, and it sure isn’t creating unity. It’s one of the many contributors of the divisiveness we have going on in politics today.
“Like raising taxes on the rich and their companies” I’m sick of the entire “HE RAISES TAXES. HE’S EVIL.” mindset. Who do some people think is getting more benefit for federal services? Who has more insurance? The person with no cars, or fifty? Who has more property taxes? The person who owns only a cardboard box, or the person who owns an entire island?
Whose tax money is going to make a dent in our outrageous national debt? The guy who sleeps outside of the Chase bank building, or the people who can afford to spend exorbitant amounts of money without batting an eye?
Now after mulling over these questions, tell me who is more obligated to pay up. Then get me a bowl of wheat thins for having to read that.
minerva146, if I earn something, it IS mine. Talk about fairness?
If I earn something after taking large amounts of risk, and pouring my life and blood into something, I deserve it, not you.
Get yer own successful business and stop trying to take what someone else built.
How could the homeless man hope to start his own business and make money when he owes over a thousand dollars in unpayable taxes?
How did the Vietnamese boat people come over with nothing and do so well ? I had a lot of friends in school that were boat people and these kids studied and worked all day to an unbelievable degree.
To paraphrase for Yoo
“If you’re on fire… I wouldnt piss on you”
Um, not all wealthy people are entrepreneurs that started from nothing. They are, in fact, rare. There are many professions like, Doctor, lawyer, etc, that by their nature, don’t really create many jobs, if any. How is that trickling down when they make their fortunes? Again, nobody is asking for a handout. I wprk hard. I just think those with more should pay more, as they tend also to benefit more from the comforts of society. ALso, The homeless guy SHOULD have an opportunity to start a business if he has a great idea. Unfortunately, the American Dream is a thing of the past for many. The opportunities just don’t exist anymore. Liberals don’t want everybody to have the same amount of money, but they do want everybody to have the same opportunities to make money. Also, we’d like to be able to make sure we can keep food on the table.
We will continue this conversation after your business goes bankrupt and you have no money to buy food. Won’t you be glad not all people are assholes like you.
Dude, that is SO true. Kind of off topic, but I watched an episode of 30 Days where the host and his girlfriend tried living on minimum wage for a month. They wound up getting so stressed that they had to get some furniture from charity. That scene returned my hope for humanity…
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Sorry. End of off-topic.
(*tag on the off-topic!)
..it didn’t really get bad until one (gf, I believe)
needed medical attention.
Then they were screwed.
“I hereby call upon the mighty unholy powers of DWN to smite the unworthy down”?
Is it that time yet?
Not yet.
*waits patiently in the shadows all cool and mysterious-like*
smoking a marlboro red
Nah, I don’t smoke, I will be eating an apple menacingly.
. . . said Tom, deliciously.
A tall form , 6′3″ to be exact, almost made of shadows in that black long coat loomed nearby. Without words, it masticated an apple, each crunch like a small scream in the night wind. Piercing hazel eyes peered out from a scowling face, goateed but untrimmed. Gloved hands held the apple captive as he ate, long brunette hair caught by random breezes in the alleyways that make up the guts of this putrid excuse for a city.
The blade in his other hand felt almost weightless as he palmed it, keeping it from view. Perhaps it was overexperience but he lived for it while others were put out like so many lights at bedtime. There another unworthy to be cut down, another notch in a belt never worn. There was some who would call him cruel but their money was always there or they were already dead. He was a ghost, a nonentity, and tonight he was the end of somebody’s line.
The carcass of the apple would be found near the crime scene in the late morning but it would like be ignored for the graphic display in crimson only a few meters away. No footprints, not even a hint besides that poor apple. Nothing. It would be as if the night just took victim and made a party favor.
A sigh left his frame like the last mourner at a funeral, depressed and without much hope. There was his payment right where it was supposed to be but also another envelope. Of course, jobs like his were never over and nor would he ever run out of work.
That prose was just dripping
I love it!
Honored. I like writing Noir. <3
It’s so thick you can almost cut it with a knife! You’re very good
I’ll never look at apples the same way again…
XD I do a wad of writing and I should get off my butt and write that novel I keep telling myself I will do.
@Jane: I do what I can.
Listen to you, pouting like a child. “Mine, mine, MINE!” Get over yourself.
He would, apparently, prefer to provide his own roads and what not.
I’m sure he goes to bed cursing Teddy Roosevelt every night for implementing that socialist “progressive tax rate.”
No, that’s Ted Stevens.
You mean, “NO!!!!”
Warren Buffet (you know, one of the richest men in history, most respected investor around, etc) says we need to raise taxes on the wealthy and use it for universal health coverage and higher education. He says it’s good for America.
Why do you hate America, Andrew?
Personally I would love to see a flat tax implemented, across the board, with no write-offs. Say something like 15% from everyone, regardless of how much you earn.
Jerry Brown wanted that too but I think by his calculations, it would only take something like 5%. Of course he also referred to “spaceship Earth” and, since he was boinking Linda Ronstadt, he could say anything and be happy.
Oh right, Governor Moonbeam. While he was a major league twit, some of his ideas were actually valid. At the time, 5% probably would have been sufficient. But today, we would probably need 15% which would include a having a surplus.
A person in Australia living off just $6000 would be down to $5100 under those rates. From $115 per week to less than $100.
Are you willing to be the one to tell them they may need to eat less to survive?
A person in Australia living off of $6000 would be frequently visiting CentreLink. Besides, the tax structure in Australia is far different then that of America.
I used Australia because I know the numbers better. And I used $6000 because it is easier to calculate the difference between 0% and 15%.
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I’ll work out the difference for minimum wage in Australia for you then.
Minimum wage is $543 per week for full time work, meaning $28276 per year. Tax on that is $3341 (or $62 per week).
At a constant 15%, tax is $4241 per year (or $81 per week).
Would you really want to take an extra $900 from them every year when they probably aren’t exactly living comfortably as it is (to put it lightly).
What about in the US, where minimum wage is less than half that? You
want to have them have even less money to (barely) live off too?
Ok, taking your example, let’s say I earn $6000 a month, that means I’ll be paying $900 a month in taxes. That’s a hell of let better then the $1600 I’m paying now, don’t you think?
Yes, but $4400 per month (after tax) is not difficult to live off.
You’re still voting for someone who’s going to annihilate the military’s spending on programs that DO matter by legendary porportions, and you’re still voting for someone who, as for the rest of that post, will willfully lie to your face for a round of applause. Why do you hate the military, Portland Mark?
Why do you want to borrow and spend so much? Seriously we aren’t paying our own bills and you keep wanting to spend… Do you want to speak Mandarin or Catonese when this hits cuz I say you better learn now.
Oh, I totally agree: we spend more money on the military than the rest of the world combined, and that is the essence of why we’re having budgetary problems now. When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, all your problems start to look like nails.
I think the military should be reduced to being big enough to throw our weight around if we need to, but small enough that if we need to go to all out war, we need a WWII style recruitment and training program to do it.
That said, I disagree with Grampy McSame on another thing: I don’t think it’s possible to spend too much on veterans’ benefits. He keeps voting them down. You’re voting for him? Why do *you* hate the veterans?
I am reminded of the Manson song, Disposable Teens now…
Could the WAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance please pull forward from the last lol. We have another patient in need of immediate attention.
Indeed. I can hear the sirens a’comin’.
Agreed. Though I suppose some people will use any opportunity to try to make their penis look bigger.
“Potatoes? POTATOES?? (Insert political candidate bashing here)”
So anyone who disagrees with you automatically gets a childish
” wambulance “?
What a wanker you are!
Oh but this is true! Everybody wanks!
Eunuchs dont.
Yes but would they not wank mentally? Or psychologically?
Everyone wanks mentally by the indulgence of ego. I admit to being a guilty party
I admit to wanking mentally at the indulgence of your prescence, good sir
Ah, that’s “Good Lady,” my friend. Bwahaha.
Oh really? Then I don’t feel so straight anymore. XD
This is getting good… *gets spy camera*
If Obama is a millionaire, and his half-brother lives on a dollar a month in Africa, his aunt lives in a ghetto in the US and he makes speeches about “I am my brothers( and sisters) keeper”- why the heck isn’t he “spreading his wealth” around?
He won’t even support his own family- do you think he’s gonna support you ?
Well except for the fact that anytime its brought up about his plan to help africa, people like you come back with “WTF! He wants to bailout africa now!? What about
us Americans!?”
His half-brother lives in a hut in Africa, his beloved aunt lives in a ghetto in (Boston?), so where is the ‘brother’s keeper’ part coming in? Forget the African bailout, what about sending his brother a $20 and almost doubling his yearly income? (don’t freaking flame me for a talking point, you guys have them too
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The Yoo guy is right. its not fair to punish people who work hard for their money. Ever seen the movie, The Persuit of Happiness? yeah well that guy worked hard for his money and became successful through determination. I dont think its fair to take that away from him and the millions of other men and woman who try to accomplish success also.. Now the people who dont appreciate the millions they are swimming in might deserve it, but not the guys trying to live the American Dream… (if thats still there after the whole economy crapped out)
Without taxes, how do we fund public schools? Or should we go back to the days when only the wealthy could educate their kids?
Should we go back to no police force, no EMTs, no army unless called up by the government, no CDC to monitor for epidemics? What about maintaining bridges and dams? All of that gets paid for by taxes.
And how about the people who work 2 or 3 jobs at a time for most of their life, to try and support their family–hoping that their kids will have a better life. Are you saying that someone who works hard at a low wage less deserving of a good life than someone who was more fortunate?
I’m all for someone who succeeded at the American Dream, but I am also aware that sometimes life just craps on people, for no apparent reason. Serious illness, death of the bread-winner, theft of retirement savings.
I’m willing to pay my share to support the infrastructure of a modern society, and to maintain the safety net that might help the less fortunate have a chance at survival. It is what is called supporting civilization.
-high five-
seconded
*Another snuggly hug!*
As I remember, In The *Pursuit of *Happyness movie, a huge component in his success was sheer luck. Obviously, the same experience could not happen to just anyone, maybe one in a million if I’m going to make a wild guess. Besides, a lot of elements in that movie were fabricated to make it watchable and interesting. Point being, sure, it’s nice (albeit it inspires delusions) to look down from the top of the social class ladder, but you’re speaking as if the majority of people living in America are wealthy, self-serving and living large, which is simply not the case. We just can’t keep believing that we’re going to get money from the moneyless.
So why is it, that when someone makes over a couple million a year… and the government wants to repeal tax breaks that still equal to LESS taxes than when Reagan was in office, and that poor, poor entrepreneur is only making 2.5 million
instead of 3 million a year… why is it that in doing so, the government is destroying the american dream?
You wanna know what my american dream is? Not having to worry about which bill I “get” to pay on time and which one is going to have to wait till next week and
catch a late fee….
I don’t believe I ever said anything about how taxing the rich was destroying the american dream…
It all goes back to the fact that trickle down does NOT work. So the ones who can afford more need to pay more. Nobody is leveling the playing field. If you make millions, you’ll still make millions, just do your fair share to enjoy the benefits f a stable society. PortlandMark sums it up well below.
You specifically no, but a lot of other folks seem to think that way. Or at least
you’d think they do with how staunchly they seem to defend these people that
make over 100 times what they do and continually screw them out of money.
No one gets rich “all on his own”. Even if you work hundred hour weeks for years to become rich, it wasn’t all your own doing. In becoming wealthy you already took advantage of the infrastructure of society, and paying taxes is the price you pay for using the commons.
What am I talking about, specifically?
1) Schools, both for your education and so you have a supply of educated workers.
2) Roads, for our own transportation, that of your employees, transportation of your goods or services, and direct support for your life (How did that food get to your house? That computer?)
3) Police and fire protection, both of which respond with more resources for the wealthy than the poor.
4) Military protection, and the diplomatic efforts which make it possible for us to engage in commerce beyond our borders.
5) Access to a relatively stable monetary system, without which you wouldn’t be able to engage in the commerce that made you wealthy.
6) Access to a regulated stock trading system, which largely finances our economy’s growth and therefor provides the wealth you captured to make yourself wealthy.
To reiterate, if you become wealthy in the US you already took advantage of a disproportionate amount of these resources, and paying a higher tax rate on that is just plain patriotic. If you disagree, I invite you to try getting wealthy in some other nation.
Durn, I am filling up my bookmarks page, people!!
Excellent post, Portland Mark.
(blush) Thanks!
We all have equality… the Equality of Opportunity and the Equality of Time.
If you make the wrong decisions and don’t take the Opportunity when it is offered then you only have yourself to blame.
Don’t get educated, don’t learn all you can, don’t observe and practice success, just sit on your butt and wait for those who did the hard work to hand you their reward. We all have the same chance when we start, unfortunately some people have idiots for parents that immediately puts them at a disadvantage, but there are resources to tap into that will help a willing person push beyond those disadvantages.
You assume that parents who put their children at a disadvantage are idiots? Is poverty the same as idiocy now? You don’t imagine that very intelligent people might be forced to drop out of school because of familial or societal pressures? You don’t think that a person can be made to hate school because it made them feel inadequate, or mishandled their intelligence? Why should we blame these people for the lot that life handed them; for a flawed system? There are many untapped geniuses trapped by society into poverty. And why should such a person be obligated to go out of their way to break from the norm, when everyone they know is working at McDonalds anyway?
Inversely, there are people who are given an unfair advantage. I’m not bemoaning my own situation here, I fully appreciate that I’m better off by default than millions of others, but there are so many unqualified people vaulted into success by their heritage when other struggle to make ends meet. Don’t say everyone has the same oppurtunities, or that everyone has to work hard for success, because it’s not true.
I’m educated and I work hard. That still doesn’t mean there are job opportunities waiting at my fingertips. That still doesn’t make it easy to afford health insurance for my family. That still doesn’t make it easier to decide which bill to pay this month. I’ve never looked for a handout. I do want a job that takes advantage of my intelligence and skills. I’ve had my job downsized or shipped out of the country. You make a lot of assumptions there.
Too many excuses, too much whining there girlie.
Opportunity abounds, maybe your career choice or job field sucks. You made those decisions, not I.
I’ll be damned if MY Hard Work goes to fund the lives foolish, lazy and stupid. They have the freedom to work as hard as I do and to learn and to progress and to earn as much or more than I do. Hooray if they do!
You may be an intelligent and skilled person, but your critical thinking is flawed if you suggest that socialistic wealth redistribution is the answer to you plight.
Health insurance WAS Affordable, Until the Democratic Party started messing with U.S. Health Care and demanding it be GIVEN to everyone, illegal aliens included, and then the costs associated with it went drastically high.
Choosing only the facts that agree with your point of view only makes you feel good; it doesn’t make the truth change in your favor.
The entire middle class thanks you for your pontificating judgement on their work ethic and values.
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Also, Illegals have nothing to do with the cost of healthcare. It costs more for you and me for people to go to the emergency room than it does if eerybody had access to good preventive care.
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You have yet to present any “facts” items Rush limbaugh has discussed do not count you see.
Also, not every region in the US is equal as far as opportunity goes. My area has lost over 40,000 skilled jobs in the last 10 to 15 years. Tends to flood the market, you know? That’s why in my area we have college grads working at Walmart, target, JC Penney, Burger King, etc. Their jobs aren’t here anymore. How am I supposed to fix this when I can’t afford to go bacck to school and can’t get credit for a loan???
We do not have equality of opportunity. Most of what makes a person successful in life are social connections, and not everyone is well connected with rich people. We don’t all have opportunity of time, either, given the lack of opportunity some people must work three or more jobs, leaving them with far less time to invest in other endeavors.
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Uhhh, hmmm, I just noticed something. “We all have the same chance when we start, unfortunately some people have idiots for parents that immediately puts them at a disadvantage.” Isn’t this a complete contradiction? I mean, we all start with parents, right?
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The real problem is expectations, Most people can not do any more than is expected of them. Almost everyone who has made something of themselves had someone along the way who really strongly believed they could. Really try to picture yourself growing up in a poor ghetto. What role models do you have? What opportunities do you see others like you succeeding at? What is the impact of subtle, daily expectations, like the fact that you get followed around in stores by security, or people cross the street when they are alone and they see you. What do you think that does to a person’s beliefs about themselves, over time?
I see that he has no response to you Seth. Can’t contradict ACTUAL facts and logic.
In bed…
And now someone mentioned change! *does another shot*
lmfao SOCIALISM hahaha it still makes me laugh