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I wish I could go home.
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I wish I could go home too. Oh. wait. I am home
That was fast…
u think ur funny…. ur not
So true and so sad.
It’s an Iraqi soldier…he is home, or at least a few blocks away from home. jeez people.
BUT LOOK AT THE SAD FACES!
Depends on your view of what “home” really is.
The world changes every day, more for some than for others. While home may, for you, be the place of security that you know… for others, the fact remains that their lives are irrevocably changed, and “home” will never be the same again. For those, the old saying about never being able to go home rings in their ears and hearts.
At least, that’s what I got out of this one…
I wish he could go home too.
not an American soldier, hes an Iraqi soldier
This one just made me sad. ;_;
I wish I knew who the left person was.
Wow. I wish they could all come home. My sister in law is getting depolyed soon.
I agree. Sad but true. Perfect example of why we need to bring the troops home.
The really scary part is that our government action has literally destroyed a society and if we leave now without being certain they can defend themselves, then they will be easily taken over by anyone with military strength. It’s sort of like declawing a cat then tossing them to the wolves. It’s an awful situation. I grew up in a military town, I remember what it was like to have my Dad gone for 9 months in Desert Storm. Over half my school had a parent, sibling, or uncle/aunt in the war. It’s so hard on families here. And this has been far worse than Desert Storm. But then I think of having a not so nice dictator take over Iraq while they are weakened and I think of how their weakened condition is a direct result of this war.
However, I agree with the sentiment – I truly wish they all could come home.
Not making light of the situation, but “…in Desert Storm. Over half my school had a parent, sibling, or uncle/aunt in the war.” really makes me feel OLD. I was finishing up High school, and my husband had enlisted himself by that time. That makes me almost the same age as the parents.
If it helps, I was in High School at the time, now have an MA and have even managed to spawn a little one of my own by now…
“The really scary part is that our government action has literally destroyed a society and if we leave now without being certain they can defend themselves, then they will be easily taken over by anyone with military strength.”
We’ve done it before. Not saying that it makes it right, but history does repeat itself. Especially when a lot of people don’t see anything wrong with it. Panama and Bush 41 come to mind.
I agree completely, this is nothing new at all. Native Americans in the early days of contact would suggest to those colonizing the Americas that enemy X was about to attack them, so the Colonizers would go off with bigger and better weapons and weaken that enemy so that the Native Americans who originally suggested the plan could more easily defeat them. This is a standard military tactic. It kinda makes you wonder who was talking to Bush when he decided to push for war? Personally, I think Bush had the right heart, but lacked a great deal of the other things needed to be an effective leader. I believe that his advisers are just as much to blame for this mess and can only hope whoever the next president will be will choose wiser individuals to advise them – then actually take the wise advice.
This kind of talk would suggest we have an occupation… Pretty sure we’re not allowed to call it that. It’s a fight for “freedom” (oil)
If it were a fight for oil then I’d be paying 86 cents a gallon for gas
If it were a fight for oil, then the effects on the pump wouldn’t be seen until after the war is over. Until then, the instability of the region would raise prices several fold.
GW started announcing his timeline for withdrawal shortly after the newspapers announced the powers that be were nearing agreements on the oil sharing. I am on my way to work but I’ll provide links later if you don’t find it yourself.
I was being very honest here. Prices increased four-fold in five years, and only recently have prices dropped (due to other issues).
Prices will never drop to pre-war levels because certain powerful people have vested interest in keeping prices high, but they will drop at least a little.
I have no illusions about gas prices dropping much, even after they get their oil-sharing agreements. Pretty sure they want to keep making record profits.
‘Gas’ prices won’t change because the small drop in oil prices will be swallowed by the middle man.
Here in Australia for example, prices peaked at 1.70 per litre. Since the massive price drop of oil, petrol prices have only dropped at the pump by 20c.
It’s getting closer.
I spent $2.99 for a gallon on Wednesday morning at a station that this past summer had been selling at – highest – $4.09 (I think; hard to remember since I was so steaming mad.)
I just spent $2.46 last night. I was happy
still 3.13 where I live.
2.09.
at a /Shell/
It’s a miracle.
They should make a beer called Busch 41.
again true and really sad.
Learn people, it may save lives!!!!!
When I was a child my dad was in the navy during paces time and he was never at home.
Did you mean to write “peacetime”?
I love your compassion, but I for one don’t think we can afford to spend the personnel and money it will take to put them back together. Especially in the middle east, an area not exactly known for peace and harmony.
That is so true and sad.
we all could use peace…
Identify the people in the pic hmmm? Is it an innocent Palestinian woman who has had her land and home stolen by a fascist Israeli?
Or should that be a ‘Facisraeli’?
I think we are all at fault one way or another.
Umm.. The pic comes from Iraq 1, 2 your an anti-Semite.
Or should that be an Mr_angry_fascist
1- I know damn well it is from Iraq, I just take every opportunity protest against illegal actions that even the UN call unjust.
2- From Wikipedia: Fascism is a totalitarian, nationalist and corporatist ideology. It is primarily concerned with perceived problems associated with cultural, economic, political, and social decline or decadence, and which seeks to solve such problems by achieving a millenarian national rebirth by exalting the nation, promoting the territorial defense or expansion of a nation through a constant state of military preparedness and promotion of militarism as well as promoting cults of unity, strength and purity.
What part of that does NOT describe Israel? I suppose you have no sympathy for Palestinians? Are you as equally heartless towards the Tibetan struggle against the Chinese? Or perhaps you simply do not care since neither the Tibetan or Chinese people are Jews?
1:The UN is a joke(it’s FAIL at it’s charter to stop war,hunger,etc), it is the play ground for petty dictators to legitimatize them self’s, and the UN know nothing of justices.
2:The modern state of Israel was attacked on day 1 of it existence. And was attacked for about 30 years by it neighbors. Then it suffered from terrorists attacks for almost 30 years. And yet I wonder why they have so much of a “state of military preparedness and promotion of militarism”?… Oh and bye the way “purity” the Israelis will let in anyone who thinks about becoming Jewish and there family’s.
3:Yes, I feel sympathy for the Palestinians who have bin sold on a path of racial hatred that is leading them to destruction, and yes I want to see BOTH the Tibetan and Chinese to be free peoples.
4:Why are you obsessed with me caring for the Jews? That I would only care about them and no other group of people? This sir, leads me back to my first point. You are a anti-Semite.
It is not anti-semitic to call Israeli military policy facist. Because all I am doing is stating a fact. It is and nothing you or anyone says is going to change that. Only they can change it, by doing the reasonable thing and return to their original boarder. And if the Israeli citizens who would be forced to move behind that boarder are upset by moving, well a taste of their own medicine might be good for them. After all, turn about is fair play right? I am sure we can at least agree on that.
I am not an anti-semite.
mr_angry = denial
Now pay attention, cause I’m only hoing to say this one more time. I am not an anti-semite.
Oh…by the way… yes, you are.
But hes really really not. Its a handy excuse to shout “anti-Semite” whenever anyone agrees with Israel, but that does not make some of their actions towards Palestinians justifyable. “attacked on day one”? That wasn’t the peasants farmer, for sure. Lumping all af the arab or muslim nations together only shows ignorance.
And Israel is not some loving excepting nation… I don’t know where that idea came from. Just recently there has been great unrest with “Morality Police” gangs beating and harrasing women who aren’t dressed conservatively enough. Sounds wonderful and COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than those evil muslim nations right?
He doesn’t have a problem with their being jewish, he never brought that up, only their actions as a state.
*DISagrees mwahahaha
Well, you have good reason to disagree with yourself, because your first post is wrong, as i see you recognized. The original poster was obviously anti-semetic in his gloming onto his picture tol aunch a pure attack against Israel, without any mention in his diatribe regarding the total comittment to terrorism exhibited by the palestinians over the past 50+ years. He could have chosen any country, but he focused on a purely fabricated and biased attack against Israel.
Not purely fabricated. Its a huge intractable issue. Trying to say its not known that Israel isn’t getting along well with its housemates? Yes it came out of nowhere, but beyond that you chose not to respond to my comment and fall back on being dismissive
Simply invoking jewish people, and then stating something VALID they have done badly does not imply a hatred of their jewish-ness, only their policy.
Like I may have mentioned before, lumping people together makes a person sound ignorant. ALL palestinians are COMMITTED to terrorism like ALL Californians commit the crime of saying “hella”.
Actually, you haven’t stated a single fact. You have stated an opinion, distorted by your obvious support for a group of people who have consistently targeted innocents to achieve their purpose. The palestinians gave up any claim to the original borders when they chose to consistently disregard the agreement that set them into place. Having said that, the israeli’s anfd the palestinians need to come to grips with some way to share land in peace, however to wish for the borders established in 1948 is a pipe dream for palestinians, you can;tconductover50 years of unsuccessful warfare against someone, then say oops we need to go back to the beginning an do over.
There is no “sharing land”. There is a wall set up that SOME of the people are not allowed to cross, and unprovoked raids being conducted at all hours of the day and night on families.
Sharing land would be amazing for some of these people I’m sure, but I can understand the frustration at having no say in who gets to take over your homes and land without retribution.
Doesn’t have anything to do with an unpresedented level of attacks by palistinians against Israeli civilians, now does it. You’re pissing up a rope because you are defending the indefensible…people who target innocent civilians as their primary and only target.
I’m defending innocent people who are just living their lives, or being forced out of their homes. I know, I know, Muslims are SO SCARY… but really, I never condoned terrorism, nor would I. Unfortunatly terrorist=/=Palestinian and Palestinian=/= terrorist. They are two seperate groups.
You are jumping to conclusions. First, the palestinians had several chances to avoid their situation, (1948, 1956, 1967), yet they chose not to. They had additional chances (Camp David Accords and other peace initiatives) and again chose not to do so. So cry me a river, if the innocent Palistinians really want to end the violence they have an easy way to do so, renounce the violence. Second, spare me the “poor muslim” routine. terrorists are terrorists, regardless of their faith, however if you are a muslim and you choose to ignore those within your community who use terror to achieve their political goals, then don’t expect sympathy from me, just like Christians who use the same methods (abortion clinics, Oklahoma City, Waco TX, etc).
Then you are far beyond the average “terrorist!” yeller, and I applaud you. However, I still believe it is fallacious to treat an entire population based on the actions of a few. And remember that shit-TONS of palestinians are now refugees in Jordan, Syria and elsewhere.
If you were inclined to research there are many palestinian led groups promoting peace or non-violent protest. And many more that are Palestianian/Israel communicative/understanding groups. It exists. The problem IS trying to be solved in a grassroots way, but it is difficult for everyone involved when there are so many outside pressures (read USA, read Saudi Arabia read any nation sticking its nose where it shouldn’t) Once again I ask that we not generalize people to the point of misrepresenting them.
Would all of those ‘chances’ have resulted in a Palestinian state (even alongside an Israeli one)?
Has Israel ever had similar opportunity to create peace, but rejected it because they didn’t want a Palestinian state to exist?
oh no! I wrote you a reply but it must have gotten lost. Well, I guess to sum up, I said that if you are being truthful about hating terrorist of all stripes and persuasions, then I applaud you for it, its much better than most people (so my bad for assuming you were the Islamaphobe type).
Secondly i was saying that there are a large (and growing) number of small palestinian led (or in conjunction with Israelis) groups that are vocally and actively promoting peace. Or non-violence. So it does exist, I’m sure some internet diggin could find either of us some links if you wanna…?
thirdly, I just again stated that generalizing is bad, and lumping all the Palestinians together is not accurate.
And if it doesn’t work this time, or doubles… sorry!
So there are fascist because they have land that was ones part of Palestine… do you know how many nations have land that ones belonged to there neighbors? BORDERS CHANGE!!! The Palestinians need to start rebuilding whats left of there society and stop worrying about land that they lost because they would not agree to peace.
“land they lost because… the West said so”
K fixed that for you.
Israel took the land from the Palestinians in the first place. Israel is an illegal state. That’s not anti-Semitic. It is not anti-Jewish. It is anti-Israel, period.
And yeah, Israel will let anyone in who thinks about being Jewish…right. Are you saying that Palestinians should convert? That’s more ridiculous than anything I’ve ever heard.
No, check you first statement for ridiculous.
thank you. I will never understand the American logic that coddles Israel for being Jewish, ignoring the whole picture.
I don’t coddle anyone. Difference, Israel targets combatants who don’t care about civilians so they hide among them, as opposed to Hamas who targets innocents who can’t fight back.
You should look into some of the veterans stories from Israeli military where they tell of clearly using their power to cause fear, not protect anybody.
There really is more to the story than the gallant white knights defending King Arthur, versus the scheming evil badguys. I just don’t see things as ever being black and white, so I cannot accept stereotypes and fuzzy pictures.
And you should look at the difference between individual events on the battlefield and the long term strategic and operational execution of a force. Again, despite inividual actions, Hamas and the militant Palitinians target civilians, they Israelis do not.
What about the non-militant Palestinians?
Well aren’t YOU the little responsibility equalizer?! haha I like it.
they have a choice, support the militants or don’t. so far they support them.
Can you suggest a third option? One that isn’t ‘militants keep fighting for independence’ or ‘Israel controls everything’?
yea, the option is peace. Stop the cycle of violence. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t unilaterally support Israel. But the initiator of this thread was totally wrong. The Palestinians have had many opportunities to stop the cycle of violence. Have the Israeli’s done things wrong, yes, but they have been under constant attack, both conventional and nonconventional, and they are winning. So, if the palestinians want peace, they need to figure out how to do it. it’s like the guy who keeps hitting his thumb with a hammer, it hurts so much until he stops.
Perhaps you should look them up and read some before you say that… That was sorta the point
I won’t go into this again cause we got other threads running, but hamas=/= end all and be all of palestinians
Sorry, i don’t need to read more. Hamas dominates the gaza. Hamas targets civilians. If the palestinians want to change their lot in life, they need to commit to peace, not terrorism, until then they will suffer.
and again, the Israeli military does as well. Palestinians and Israelis alike are working in other organizations to try and find peace. These facts refute your claims. But you reject these out-of-hand as if I hadn’t spoken so I guess there isn’t too much left to say.
No, they don’t. They primary difference is the target. The palestinians are fighting an asymetric war. They attack Israeli civilians then use their own civilians as a shield. The Israeli’s attack the terrorists who are hiding behind civilians. You can paint the picture any way your mind wants to, your choice, but the intent is what makes the difference. I understand how terrorism works, you have fallen victim to the psychological ploy, too bad for you.
Earlier you said Palestinian civilians support the terrorists. Can you link me somewhere to get, or cite more information about this? Or maybe just explain to me how it is that someone who hasn’t spoken with any Palestinian civilians can have a clear understanding of their mentality? Having read literature written by Palestinians in the U.S., I was under the impression that non-radical Palestinians wanted to be allowed a national identity without being prosecuted for expressing interest in the history of their people. I could be wrong though, and that’s not sarcastic or anything, I just want to know what facts you are using to draw your conclusions.
Also, lol@calling anyone who speaks poorly of Israel an anti-Semite.
I’m sorry, I forgot to mention I was assuming that you have never spoken to a Palestinian civilian. Please correct me if I was wrong about that.
Probably not (though I agree with you on that point).
It’s probably an Iraqi woman on her way to becoming a refugee in Syria or Jordan, where she very well might be forced into prostitution because those two countries won’t give most Iraqi men and women work permits, leaving them with no choice but to make money illegally.
Gotta feel bad for Jordan at this point, isn’t it that more than half of their population is refugees?
Are you sure that is actually an American soldier?
Doesn’t look like any of our camo plus no deployment patch on the arm.
That is definitely not a US military pattern
The man on the right is most definetly an -Iraqi policeman.-
The United State Army pattern (ACUPAT) is a three colour pattern featuring a slate grey, foliage green and light sand colours. The Iraqi-Police use a similar pattern, but it features two blues, a small bit of khaki and very dark brown.
That would suggest that he already IS home, technically. Which makes this so-called LOL even less funny than it was to begin with.
The whole concept of this LOL is actually a FAIL.
I don’t think it was meant to be funny. We get those kind of lolz here every once in a while…..
Exactly what I thought.
The IBA (vest) isn’t even US issue.
Actually, that’s a member of an elite Iraqi unit. Al Hilla SWAT had similar uniforms for a while. So did the Iraqi Special Forces. Hilla SWAT later changed to brown nomex cover-alls, so I think that’s a Special Forces.
It’s definately NOT an American.
Danke! i knew it wasn’t American.
I wish Obama would go home…..
Poor little xenophobe, going to have someone whom you class as inferior to you as your president.
You deserve it.
That makes him a xenophobe? Name-calling much? Maybe he just doesn’t like the guy. People say roughly the same of Bush daily – are they xenophobes? I think not. Perhaps I’m just retarded, though.
Yeah, I agree with you for a change. Jumping to conclusions in a big way. It’s ok to disagree, but? Not that Thor sounds much different than EP on some of his posts, so maybe that’s where this response comes from.
Yeah, that’s probably got a good bit to do with it. Still, that was more of a radical comment than what Thor started off with.
Calling Bush names doesn’t make me a xenophobe, you see, because he and I are racially and culturally similar. Definition: FAIL
Of course, he does like to think he’s a Texan; I could go for a little xenophobia against texans.
Except for those long legged Texas women. They can move in to my neighborhood anytime they want.
I would say I wish McCain would go home, but I’m in Arizona and the more he’s away the better I like it.
Well, he’s going to be moving to a new spot pretty soon. 4 year lease with an option to renew, pretty sweet deal.
HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH! It’s funny because you still believe it!
The slight majority of the US voting public appear to still believe it too. How naive of them :rolleyes:
I thought the desert was her home?
and the inner city is my home, but that doesn’t mean i’m happy and comfortable anywhere in the inner city.
I’m not certain, but I don’t think the troop in this picture is a part of the US government’s military. I mean, he’s probably American, but I don’t think he’s Army or anything. His uniform’s camo pattern more closely resembles one made by a private contractor out of Canada than it does any uniform that our forces wear.
If I’m right, then that means that this particular solider is a private soldier and therefore where he is by choice… more or less.
It’s also possible he’s not American at all…. And it’s also possible that I’m totally wrong
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This should be moved to Failblog.
I wish I had some icecream in the fridge.
Nice name. Angry sexism much?
Why do they have a storm trooper helmet in the back of the car?
Because those are not the droids they want.
Doesnt matter WHERE either of them are from, or what country they’re affiliated with. It is the hopelessness in their expressions that make this a horrible/beautiful photo.
EVERYONE understands the feelings in this lol, and that’s what makes it so poignant.
Never mind the whys or whos, the point of this is that war sucks. Only people with money to make will tell you differently.
agreed.
I agree as well but war is always going to happen all that we as the people of this world can do is try to make peace last as long as we can and end the wars wars we of earth state as soon as possible with the lest amount of death on ether side.
AGREED!
The picture doesn’t say it is an American Soldier. Teh powars of sughestsiun, you haz itz.
Don’t they all…
Personally, I think the war has gone on long enough. If we win or retreat, I DON’T CARE; as long as it’s over (and if we can negotiate peacfully), then I’ll be happy.