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FIRST! maybe….
Martin Luther King was a Republican. He fought against racist Democratic Party politicians and laws.
That’s a lie. It was put on billboards by the National Black Republican Association, based on something written by his niece, who is herself a Republican and has claimed that MLK was also, in the fine old Republican traditional of, well, lying.
Until I see a quote from MLK himself saying he was a Republican, I see no reason to think it’s anything other than a lie, and a despicable one. Trying to claim the dead as one of yours because they can’t speak for themselves is low, even for Republicans.
Er… Considering the fact that the Democrat party of the 60’s was one of the strongest opponents of black rights…
And the fact that the Republicans of the 60’s were the ones fighting to give full equality to blacks…
Well, he might not have stated his alignment, but I’m willing to bet he supported those who wanted to help, rather than hinder blacks.
It doesn’t matter which party he was affiliated with. Parties change as do their policies. Even if any of this was true it has no bearing on the policies of today’s parties. I would say that neither party is outright racists but one party has policies that hurt minorities more than the other – Republican policies help the rich relatively more than the poor compared to Democratic polices.
Yes, yes, I know, southern Democrats bad, old Republicans good… That’s not my point – it’s a cheap and crappy stunt to claim a dead man was part of your group for political reasons when he isn’t around to set the record straight. If MLK had ever claimed affiliation with any political group, that would be another matter, but to try to hijack him for political advantage years later is just sleazy.
Well, considering we’re about to choose between Senator John McCain and Senator Barack Obama, not Senator John F. Kennedy and Vice President Richard Nixon, how the hell is any of this relevant?
You act like the Democrats are still racist and the Republicans aren’t. Your eyes are turning brown(er).
Actually… I would consider the party that assumes black people are far too stupid to get a job or get into school on their own merit to be the racist one.
Rather than the party who has been fighting actual discrimination without giving any form of a crutch to people who are equal in merit.
Which party most often silently elects the most capable man (or woman) to the job, without caring about the color of their skin?
Which party cries out in joy and flaunts to the world that they have elected a man of color? Or elected a woman?
Since it’s no longer the ’60s and both parties have changed a lot in the past fifty years.. I think it’s safe to say that this is the stupidest argument I’ve ever seen.
Republicans are fighting discrimination? Against whom, the richest of the rich people? Because as far as I can tell, the Republican party only cares about them. They don’t care about gays, racial minorities, women who aren’t being paid comparable wages to men for the same jobs, non-Christians, or poor people. So please, inform me, because I would be interested to know what you interpet as discrimination.
I hope you’re not suggesting that the Republicans fight for the rights of African-Americans, given that they’ve had equal rights to Caucasians in this country for decades. Racism is more often than not a non-issue these days, which is as it should be.
So who are these people that the Republican party is fighting for? Certainly not rape victims who are being forced to pay for their own rape kits and who stand a chance of being denied the opportunity to abort if McCain gets into office. Certainly not gays, who will be denied the right to marry based solely on their gender, because McCain and Palin allow their own personal beliefs of what “marriage” should be affect their judgement of what constitutes a civil right.
If McCain and Palin get into office, our country is going to be in an even sadder state than it is already. And the people who still intend to vote for them–either because they’re not informed on the issues, they don’t understand the issues to begin with, or they’re only interested in their own personal well-being and are unconcerned with “the greater good”–have some amazing excuses for why they support a team who are so obviously going to do much more harm than good.
If someone is going to be stupid enough to support people who want to take away Americans’ rights–your rights, by the way–then they deserve to have those rights taken away, and the rest of us will just have to move to Canada.
Someone needs to tell McCain and Palin that 1984 was not an instruction manual. Get real. These people have nothing positive to offer anyone except the disgustingly wealthy.
And, being a moot point considering the man has been dead for years (although I’m sure is turning over in his grave at recent events), but I always assumed Martin Luther King, Jr. was a liberal/independent. He was far too rebellious to be affiliated with either party at the time. Especially given that African-Americans couldn’t vote at the time, and I’m pretty sure you don’t have a party affiliation if you don’t vote.
Just saying.
I’ll leave you with some food for thought: Jesus was a liberal. Darwin was a Christian. Chew on that for awhile.
I think you need to go back and read your Bible.
Blacks couldn’t vote in the 1960s? What the hell are you talking about…
The 15th Amendment to the Constitution granted “The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.”
and it was ratified in 1870…so since you were inaccurate in that aspect of your post…the rest of your post should be ignored. I figured you would have been a little more in tune with when groups were granted the right to vote since your screen name makes me thing you are probably a woman (and your right to vote was granted by the 19th Amendment in 1920).
Jesus was a liberal…and his actions destroyed the largest and oldest empire in the world…of course I don’t expect you to research that either (since you like to regurgitate whatever people around you say). Though it is a nice connection to make to Barak Hussein Obama. Say what you want but there are huge differences between MLK and BHO.
The Roman empire would have collapsed with or without Jesus, and I doubt the timing would have been much different either.
When Jesus died, the Romans were still 200 years from their peak.
Your argument that McCain will make things worse implies that you think Obama will make things better? Do you really believe that? We are about to elect one of two men, both of whom will make huge mistakes and drive us further into a depression. They will be different mistakes to be sure. But if you really believe there is a lessor of two evils at this point… well it must be nice to have that kind of hope.
Ron Paul was the only one who made any sense at all, and he’s more than a bit crazy.
Not that it’s any surprise… but you have no idea how affirmative action works.
That is all.
By…”on their own merit” do you mean with social programs that bolster their sense of entitlement to the point where they assume no personal responsibility for anything they do? Because that is something to be proud of!
I don’t know if you know this but everyone lies, including Democrats and President Obama. Stop blaming just one group of people for all of the political corruption in America.
He was a self-admitted socialist, he prolly didn’t care for either party.
MLK had more talent, diligence, and honor in his big toe then Obama does in his whole body.
Support AMERICA, Support the INDIVIDUAL, not the goverment!
“nutjob” ain’t far off.
And John McCain was against making Martin Luther King Day a holiday,
I agree with the nutjob!
You CANNOT compare Obama with MLK! Just because their skin color is the same, doesn’t make their abilities, intelligence, talents, etc… the same. What has Obama done? Seriously. I have seen no communities organized by Obama. Until this election came up I didn’t even know there was such a thing as an Obama.
MLK did not need to be president to make change. If Obama is so much like MLK, why hasn’t he already brought us hope and change huh?
MLK wanted us to be blind to the color of a person’s skin, not blinded by it.
(not that McCain’s any better)
Why does everyone say that Obama is black? He’s only half black! For
people to even compare him to MLK is ludicrous- they’re not even the same
skin tone.
Because that’s the main criteria to judge what a person is all about?
Apparently…..
Yeah, but do you see Obama making any changes anywhere near what MLK did? Anything close? Anything that makes Obama worthy of comparison to such a great man? Cause I sure don’t
EPIC WIN!
A bit much but definitely a win.
Dang skippy! I mean, I don’t think at this point we can compare anyone to MLK Jr., time will tell, but yeah, that slam of hers against community organizers pissed me and many others off. Jon Stewart’s summarizing of it was best “so yeah, all you people trying to make a difference in your communities…!*^%#! you! You’re a thousand points of bullshit!”.
To compare Obama with Martin Luther King because of that community organizing thing is really the equivelant of comparing Palin’s to Rudy Giuliani because they were both mayors.
Giuliani is an idiot.
That and Palin is a dude.
i truly wish i had an understanding of those who claim him as a great mayor. i really do. he made about 10 decisions in 8 years on his own.
<native ny’er
*applause*
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
That’s sad if you cant, considering that this isnt comparing Obama to MLK Jr.
Its taking a stab at Palin ridiculing community organizers.
Everyone knows community organizers are all saints and would never get together in an organisation and oh, say, commit massive voter fraud. Nope! They’re all just dandy do-gooders.
If you’re referring to ACORN its been discussed, ACORN knew most were faulty
And they used special cover sheets to show the registration officials this.
ACORN only turn in forms sent to them and tags questionable ones. If anything
you should be glad there are people doing this BEFORE election day so there’s
not a huge trainwreck like the voting issues in Florida.
Thanks but try again.
And no, not all community organizers are do gooders. But then again…. no
person is.
Hey dickhead BLAH: Voter registration fraud is registering Mickey Mouse to vote. Voter FRAUD is Mickey Mouse actually voting. There’s a difference. You know, kinda like you and a rational person.
The Republicans are setting up this cry of ACORN! to claim that the election was won by Obama due to fraud and should be contested.
whats your problem, why can’t i vote if i want to?
That is hilarious! Mickey, what are you doing on this site?
i’m keeping tabs on my reputation.
In bed
Get the information: ACORN turns in *all* forms it receives. It separates and notes as “Questionable” the forms that are, well, questionable, and offers all information necessary to prosecute those turning in fake forms. They have successfully helped prosecute several people over the years. This current flap against ACORN is politically motivated, using the “Questionable” forms they turned in to authorities themselves.
ACORN also stages events to shutdown bank lobbies, congressional offices and politcla events to pressure banks and congress to losen their regulations and offer more subprime mortgages. They are part of the problem, not the solution.
These inner-city precincts they claim to be helping are now spending large amounts of money to verify these bogus registrations and defend against lawsuits, not to mention the distraction of having to deal with the media circus that has insued.
By the way, at least one underage voter registered by ACORN has already attempted to vote, and that moves from voter registration fraud to voter fraud.
Great…so you are saying ACORN doesn’t have the responsibility to vet the documents before turning them in. I mean with the way people name their kids these days I guess Micky Mouse could be a legitimate name…even though it is probably an illegitimate child.
You’re right. Giuliani is a fascist. Palin’s just stupid. Although, what I’ve been hearing about her and far-right-wing Religious Reich groups sure has got me nervous, so maybe it *would* be a fair comparison.
Actually – there is a BIG difference between a community activist and a community organizer.
MLK > BO
MLK was also a proud Republican.
Before the “Southern Strategy.”
I didn’t know that, but it doesn’t surprise me, what with the traditional bigotry of the Democratic Party, especially in the South of that time.
Um, you might want to look up “southern strategy.”
In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican method of carrying Southern states in the latter decades of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st century by exploiting racism among white voters.
EPIC FAIL! MLK was nothing like the community organizers of today. Especially the socialist ACORN.
You mean that organization that McCain said was alright? He better watch his socialistic affiliations.
Yes, He better. Just like Obama started watching his religious affiliations when he started running…
And Palin with her religious affiliations and the Alaskan Independence party.
They are all scum. None of them even qualify to be MLK’s dog’s pooper scooper.
Palin is not affiliated with any extremist church and she has never been part of the AIP.
Maybe if you spent less time listening to Democrat talking points and more time actually researching the facts you would know that.
Perhaps you should actually look into Palin’s church, they are quite extreme
in their views. And Palin’s husband WAS a part of the AIP. Just because we
say/type them… doesnt make them talking points.
But apparently we have established here that a person’s known aquaintances, however shady or mystifying or weird, don’t matter. All we should do is look at their record…….uh oh……….hmmmmmmm………
Pot, meet kettle.
Hi Kettle! Didn’t I meet you back in college??
I have no problem admitting the problems of my candidates…….but the left seems to get all twitchy when you mention the problems with theirs 
The Rev. Wright Argument… thats fine. Spiritual leaders are very
influential, and that connection is to be questioned. But the Ayers
connection is so flimsy its sad. Even if Obama considers Ayers a
friend, it in no way compares to someone’s SPOUSE being involved
in a highly unpatriotic party. Now you might call that Patriotic to want
to secede from a Union such as ours. But the difference is, we won
and seceded from colonial empire rule. Until you accomplish what
you’re after in that regard, you’re a secessionist. Considering the
REST of Alaska likes America just fine, Id say they lean more towards
secessionist than patriotic.
I’m thinking that I’ve heard at various times in the past that other states such as Alaska, Hawaii, and Texas have all thought about seceeding one way or another. I’m not sure that makes you a bad American, just a really sore loser
Id rather not get into the what makes you a good/bad American
cause that debate always finds the most sore toes, and stamps
the hell out of them. Id rather leave it at the fact that the
viewpoints of those “parties” raises an eyebrow or two, just like
Rev. Wright.
I personally dont care. But to state such ignorance to things that are
documented proven fact, like samurai did HAS to be corrected. And there
is no bias going on there. Those statements are documented and they
ARE fact.
And as to the record, various others such as minerva and Seth have
posted Obama projects, activity on committees in the senate, etc. In
previous posts. You can also looks these things up on the senate’s website.
I liked Obama’s “acquaintance.” If anybody bothered listening to what Rev. Wright actually had to say rather than dismissing him as Scary Ranty Black Man, we might have learned a thing or two.
Obama’s throwing him under the bus was one of the things that turned me off to voting for him. If we have lost the ability to tell the difference between “God damn America for throwing a gay pride parade” and “God damn America for killing innocent brown people in the Third World” then we have got a serious problem. I would hope God WOULD damn people for doing demonstrably bad things, rather than simply culturally objectionable ones.
so you’re going with a write-in then?
So I guess that video where the president of the AIP acknowledges her membership is a liburul conspiracy and they were all actors? Yeah… Wanna buy a bridge (to nowhere)?
Maybe you should google the video she created that was played at an AIP rally where she tells them to “keep up the good work”
Yeah, poor poor wall street, it’s all ACORN’s fault that wall street’s put the economy in the crapper. *rolls eyes*
ACORN must be rigging the opinion polls too OMG!
d00d Srsly!
What the right won’t admit is that voter fraud is something that happens on both ends. The right is certainly not innocent of it, which is why, as a volunteer on the Obama campaign, we’ve been encouraging voters to vote early/absentee.
Re: ACORN, I haven’t read enough unbiased info on it yet to form an opinion, but regardless, it doesn’t change who, when I tally everything up, I think will be the best choice for America.
Re: ACORN
learn difference: Voter Registration Fraud v. Voter Fraud
get clue
deflate balloon
ping! ฯ
Erm, were you attacking me fillerbunny? I’m confused as your tone is usually far more civil than that.
As I said, I haven’t gotten a clear picture of what the allegations are and what’s going on, and I won’t have a clear picture or an opinion at least until I visit factcheck.org
Pwnd !!!!!
Four years ago, in the state of Washington, when the governor’s race was incredibly close, the Republicans raised a stink about voter fraud from felons voting. An investigation was done and four felon’s votes were removed from the total. It didn’t help the Republicans, though, since all the felons had voted for the Republican candidate.
Nobody tries harder to rig an election than the Republicans. I’m betting they are behind ACORN as a scandal, it’s exactly the kind of dirty trick they are famous for.
If you saw some of the things going on here in Ohio, you’d know it was true that ACORN’s been doing massive rigging for Obama. There’s a bunch of other shadiness going on that may or may not be related to them but one thing’s clear: Obama’s got lots of people cheating for him. And sorry, but it’s the Democrats known more for dirty dealing.
Blah, what color is the sky on your planet?
What did you see in Ohio? And I mean see with your own eyes, not some secondhand reference from a conservative blog.
Only because the Republicans whine a lot more about it. But you guys own the press so you’ve got that platform.
From what I heard, ACORN’s “cheating” consisted of some of the register-on-the-spot clipboard-holders falsified voter registrations. The same damn thing happens every time there’s a petition drive. So you get someone to go behind them and check their work and hopefully catch them at it. So when are we going to catch the Republicans who actually rig VOTES?
At least if someone’s registered under false pretenses you can catch it before they vote. But if a voting machine eats a vote and it’s on proprietary software, who’s gonna know?
Thank God for Jennifer Brunner. I could register at home, send off for an absentee ballot and vote on a piece of paper just like a civilized person anywhere else in the world. Go figure, huh?
Agreed. Apples and oranges. To make this kind of comparison I find grossly insulting to MLK.
true dat!
Just like the Republican Party of Lincon’s day is nothing like the Republican Party of today. Who’s fighting for the civil rights of homosexuals in the same way as some aspects of the Republicans fought for the civil rights of blacks? Certainly not the now Neo-Con controlled GOP.
WINZ
Good one.
Uh yeah but just because obama is black doesn’t mean you should compare him to mlk, mlk did much more as a community organizer than obama did…… waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more
Agreed! And MLK had much more integrity and honor than Obama. MLK didn’t have the very questionable associations that Obama does….there is not ANY sort of comparison…maybe a contrast in the two men. MLK was a reformer and bucked the system…sorta like McCain. Obama just goes along with the rest of the Dems and the Chicago machine.
hey-o!
Although MLK couldn’t see Russia from his house.
HA HA. OH WOW.
Equating the two-bit hustlers now committing voter fraud across the country with Martin Luther King is highly offensive to the memory of Dr. King.
I agree, that is a disgrace!
So COMMUNITY organizers, aren’t doing things in communities? They are doing it all across the country. hmm. Who are you even referring to as a hustler?
The Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now is currently under investigation in states across the US for submitting many thousands of fraudulent voeter registrations in their respective “communities.” There you go.
Yes, spin some more. If you google “acorn fraud” (which I did) the first two pages have almost no real news results, only bloggers. So where to get thr truth on this??
If you google “voter purging” there are also a lot of blogs, but at least two of the top 5 results were from reputable news agencies. It would seem that republicans are at least as guilty of this phenomenon as dems. nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?_r=1&pagewanted=1&hp&oref=slogin
I do not approve of this being done by anyone. Election fraud is despicable and against everything this country was founded on. It strips Americans of their fundamental way to participate in the government.
So we ask ourselves. Who stands to benefit most from fixing elections this year? Polls would suggest that Dems have no need to do this. Notice, i did not say impossible some are trying to pad the lead. However, seeing as Republicans also got caught doing illegal voter purging and caging voters in Ohio and Florida in 2004, (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_election_voting_controversies)it suggests to me that they MAY be trying to do it again, but by forcing the focus onto a “known” liberal organization. Acorn may well have done some fraudulent things. I don’t approve of anyone doing it.
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, it just seems to me that Repubs have more to gain from this sort of thing this year, and are known to be better at spin. My 2 cents, not worth much.
wikipedia is your source? That’s very reliable.
Stick your head back in the sand…
Where are the reliable sources for ACORN’s supposed fraud?
there are none. hence the google search produces only blog entries.
Here’s two newspaper articles. I can present you with many more.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_592407.html
“Thousands of allegedly fake voter registrations by a nationwide organization are being investigated. At least nine states are reviewing voter paperwork, and Allegheny County police are looking into similar accusations.
Employees of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, commonly known as ACORN, are under investigation in Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin since local election officials started noticing irregularities among the thousands of registrations submitted by ACORN. ”
Also,
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/elections/article852295.ece
And,
Investor’s Business Daily analyzes Obama’s links to ACORN:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=308790381199062
Again, if this isn’t enough, I can provide more.
read n8’s comment below.
Your first newspaper article is from the Pittsburgh Tribune Review which is a very, very, VERY conservative paper that has been known to put a lot of spin on what it prints. I’d take anything from that paper with a grain of salt.
A hammock. You has it.
Dude! I love hammocks, if he doesnt want it.. can I take his?
I don’t think you want THAT hammock……or what’s in it!!!!
It took me a second to get that one… XD
no, I picked the wikipedia entry because it summarized the MANY things that happened in that election. You can look up each individual infraction pretty easily. just figured it was the easiest read for those who had never seen the info. If you require, we can get each individual source in triplicate. The article HAS a bibliography.
ACORN is required -by law- to submit every voter registration form that is submitted to them. If I go into an ACORN office and fill out a voter registration form saying my name is Elvis Presley and giving my address as Graceland, they have no choice but to take it.
What they do in these situations is to attach a cover letter that states that the registration is faulty, and why. That part isn’t required by law, but they do it anyway.
What’s happening now is that ACORN is being blamed for faulty registrations, but that’s basically shooting the postman for bringing you junk mail.
Then what’s wrong with lambasting the Demtards behind it? Maybe the Republicans are guilty as well, maybe they aren’t, but they haven’t been caught, sucka. If you’re going to do something underhanded, do it right.
They were caught blatantly caging voters in 2004. read the other sources I posted about voter purging this year.
Also, because it’s wrong to blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few individuals. If some douche hands in a faulty registration form, the democratic party, Obama campaign or acorn doesn’t control that individuals actions.
First off, if you’re shifting your strategy to blaming the “demtards” behind it, then you tacitly admit that ACORN bears no fault. If you have any integrity, you should change that tacit admission to an explicit one.
Secondly, how can anyone know that those submitting faulty registrations are “demtards” (as you call them) and not agents provocateur looking to discredit ACORN (which until now was what you were just doing) ?
Republicans removed thousands of Floridians from the voter rolls before the 2000 election for allegedly being felons. Didn’t check SSNs or any other identifying information, just kicked ‘em off ’cause their names sounded sorta like the names of convicted felons. (In Florida being a felon loses you the franchise.)
A major player in the Ohio Republican Party was also the Secretary of State for the 2004 election and tried to throw out provisional ballots because they were on the wrong thickness of paper. Now, these were ballots HIS OFFICE PRINTED, not random forgeries or something. But it had nothing to do with Kerry grabbing a majority in exit polls. Nope, not a bit.
The former CEO of Diebold lives in Ohio and promised to deliver Ohio to George W. Bush. Funny, that.
Just as Al Gore was trying to block tens of thousands of US Military votes coming in from overseas……..
I thought that was ok.
But nobody is making such equations.
The equation the picture is making is with Obama, who is doing no such thing with voter registrations.
The alleged acts (Remember “innocent until proven guilty” anyone? This is America we’re talking about, right?) are from an organization that McCain has supported and praised. And far from voter fraud, it is voter registration fraud. While if true it is still a bad thing, it would not result in any improper votes being cast. Though pretending so sure does make a pretty straw man.
yeah, I read this on another blog:
“Show me those people in Las Vegas who plan to vote for Barack Obama while impersonating the members of the Dallas Cowboys, and perhaps I’ll take the GOP’s ACORN story seriously.”
This may well have to do more with acorn’s impossible quotas for their employees, and less to do with actual extra votes. Not defending them, just a thought.
DENIAL- you has it !
unless or until those extra registrations somehow manage to vote at the last minute (see: 2008 democratic primary, Lake County, Indiana; see also: 105 ‘extra’ votes in Bridgeport, Conneticut).
remember, one party has historically been against voter identification at the polls. wanna take a stab at which one that might be?
Republicans are just setting the scene so when Obama wins they can whine about voter fraud with no substantial evidence.
I hope someone personally delivers the papers showing Democrat voter fraud to you- and staples them to your forehead like in the movie Get Smart. Maybe you’ll even believe them then !
I’m sorry, your delivery of rational thinking is on backorder. Can you hold out on those spoonfeedings you’ve been getting from right wing blogs for a while longer?
Really. โShow me those people in Las Vegas who plan to vote for Barack Obama while impersonating the members of the Dallas Cowboys, and perhaps Iโll take the GOPโs ACORN story seriously.โ
There have been multiple posts by myself, n8, and others disproving this. Also a Google search come up with nothing but conservative blogs, and there is a history of caging and fraud amongst republicans particularly in 2004 race, and you still spout talking points as if there could be any truth behind them. Denial much. Look at the evidence available.
I haven’t seen any good answer (or indeed, any answer at all) to the facts I’ve presented. I can only assume that this last-minute flailing against ACORN is nothing but a hollow act of desperation.
Yep.
There are reasons for that. Take, just for one example, homeless people. Depending on how long they’ve been homeless and under what circumstances, quite a few of them do not have ID. Yet they have the franchise. How will they vote if they have no ID?
Oh wait, they tend to vote Democrat. Guess they don’t matter.
Have you ever actually *voted*? You go in, and they look up your name on a list. You can’t vote if you don’t give them a name. If the name isn’t there, they don’t let you vote. If your name IS there, they mark it off because you showed up. If it’s marked off, they let you cast a provisional ballot while they try to figure out what the hell happened. If you try to vote outside your district but you are registered and you tell them you are, you have to cast a provisional ballot. And while your name is never actually on your ballot, it is packaged WITH your ballot so ultimately, they can tell whether you voted twice.
You don’t need ID for any of that crap. The Republicans are just trying to make it harder for the homeless and the seriously poor to vote, because guess who they vote for overwhelmingly?
Maybe if you’d stop trying to throw everybody out on the street or into prison, they’d vote for you more often. Sorry, ranting about abortion and teh gayz doesn’t cut it when people are hungry and a week away from eviction.
The only thing MLK Jr and Obama have in common is race.
Comparing them is absurd at best, offensive at worst. MLK Jr did more for this country than Obama could ever hope to accomplish. Best of all, he wasn’t a politician.
Damn this LOL pisses me off. Ignorant f*cks.
THANK YOU! finally someone talks sense.
second that.
third
Lolnathan, I’m sorry you’re so angry that you can’t think straight. As long as Obama is alive, no one has any idea what he will accomplish in his life. You think there is nothing left to do regarding race in this country? It’s like you’ve given up all hope that anyone ALIVE could accomplish anything further.
Even YOU might accomplish something important in your future. Don’t write anyone off until they’re 6 feet under.
By the way, you’re missing the point of the lol because you’re so quick to get offended.
Hey a voice of reason, who’d have thought
Inconceivable!
Commenting- yur doin it wrong.
Reason FTW!
This lol isn’t comparing Obama and MLK, it’s mocking Palin’s comment. Thanks for playing, try again next time.
I respectfully disagree. It is too soon to say what Obama can/will accomplish, but these two men do have something else in common besides race. The ability to inspire, the ability to unite, the ability to connect with thousands (millions?) with words. No small feat. I am not saying he is equal to MLK Jr. but to myself, and safe to say others, the comparison is not absurd nor offensive.
the ability to unite with thousands (millions?) of dollars from ACORN and other underhanded organizations? Tell me – why is it that Senator Obama has accrued the 2nd highest pot of cash from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, (second only to the chairman that does the oversight? Both dems?)
Also – tell me why some are comparing Governor Palin’s experience with Mayor Guliano? HE stopped at the position of mayor, SHE continued to become (so far) govenor of the largest state – you know, the one that provides more of our domestic energy than any other state?
It is true that Senator Obama is the second on the list of CONGRESSPEOPLE who have taken donations from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but it is estimated that Senator McCain’s campaign manager toke upwards of $2 million from them in lobbying fees. NPR’s This American Life stated this on their most recent broadcast, if you are going to demand a source.
Damn, McCain’s a little old to be toking anything, isn’t he? Also, you’re using NPR as a source? GTFO, feminazi.
1) It’s a typo, you’ll live.
2) It was in an interview. You would know this if you listened to TAL at all, it’s all first hand information. Not to mention, that NPR is funded by the government and is a perfectly legitimate source of information.
3) Name calling is inappropriate in this sense, seeing as how I presented some actual information and wasn’t trolling. And if you were going to call names, at least use one that would apply, seeing how nothing I said related to feminism or implementing an authoritarian state. Something like “liberal nerd” or “big ears” might come closer to being more appropriate.
Nerdie girls are sexy and ears are just something to whisper dirty thoughts into. I see no insults to be had there.
And once again, DWN sucessfully de-seriouses an argument with a sexual innuendo!
Win!
Um…in bed?
My girl seems to think I win there.
DWN- In your threadz… Screwing de serioz bizniz!!!
Nerdie girls are sexy and ears are just something to whisper dirty thoughts into. I see no insults to be had there.
Pay no attention to him, some people can never hope to make a rational argument in their lives and feel threatened by any woman who can articulately disagree with them.
The last time anyone called me a feminazi was in high school, because of something I said in English class, so that ought to tell you about this dude’s maturity level.
In bed.
*snort* Thank you. I’d have been sad if you didn’t say that.
Thanks you two.
Always glad to help.
feminazi, lol, epic fail.
I want to be taken to a “female run concentration camp” OH YEAH!
I would have fun turning the tables on them… >_>
Isn’t feminazi a Rush Limbaugh coined term? You just showed your own qualifications for commenting.
So, what does Obama’s rear end taste like when you kiss it ?
I wouldn’t know anymore than you would know the taste of McCain’s ass.
And you keep saying you’re an independent. But I havent seen you say anything good except about Obama ?
Im in the same boat with DWN. We’re voting democrat this year because…
well Im sorry… what are the options? Republican or Democrat right?
And the independent parties arent showing anything much better.
Im sorry we didnt choose your side, but you’ll have to get over the whole
“people disagree with me” issue, it happens in life, and in the real
world, where adults live and work.
Being an independent doesn’t mean you can’t favor a candidate. It merely means that you don’t claim a party. My father, for example, has voted Republican in every presidential election. Yet he is not registered with either party, thus an independent. My mother has only voted for a Republican once in her presidential voting record. Yet she is not registered with any party either. Also, an independent.
DWN has said he is a moderate, which also, does not mean that he cannot agree more with one candidate than another. Independents, which aren’t always moderates, and moderates, who aren’t always independents, can pick people to vote for that they think is best for the job. Just like people who label themselves as liberal or conservative or are registered with a certain political party.
Max and Christine already covered pretty much all the rebuttal I could have but I did want to say this.
Moderate means that I see the good in both parties. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean I have to like any particular candidate. Ever. I was unaware that I HAD to split myself in half and pick both candidates simultaneously. This run, I like Obama. I can admit a left leaning but I have very conservative, almost Good Old Boy values about the home. I believe it is my castle and thus I should be allowed to protect the hell out of it. Democrats tend to give me a violent itch when that discussion comes up about guns.
So I don’t really understand your annoyance. Do you truly love ever republican candidate you see? If not, are you still a republican? I’m a moderate/independent simply because I don’t believe in just one party. And I thank Max and Christine for backing me up here.
You don’t even deny that’s whre you get all your “reliable” information.
But where do you get yours? It;s not wrong to listen to Rush, Hannity, Levin, or the others, as long as you balance it out with a healthy dose of CNN, Headline News, NPR, MSNBC, and so on. It’s interesting to hear how those sources tell the same stories, but depending on the words they emphasize or leave out, it completely changes the meaning of the story.
Correction: Alaska does not provide more of our domestic energy than any other state. As soon as 2006, Texas was still the top crude oil producing state, producing 21% to Alaska’s 15% – which is still only slightly more than produced in – surprise – California (12%). Also, 25% of domestic crude oil production in 2006 came from Federal offshore leases in the Gulf of Mexico. Currently working in the oil and gas industry, I would probably bet to see some of the northern states like North Dakota and Wyoming moving up on the list of the country’s top producers as key reserve areas continue to be explored, developed and brought online.
As for natural gas, Texas and Louisiana account for 60% of domestic production by themselves. Oklahoma is ranked 3rd nationally in production of natural gas. The largest natural gas fields in the US are located in the “mid-continent” (Oklahoma and Texas), the Gulf regions of Texas and Louisiana and the North Slope of Alaska.
Sources:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/crudeproduction.html
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_1741500821_14/united_states_economy.html
…and my own work experience.
(Sorry if this posts more than once, I think the internet ate my first attempt.)
Also, as far as Alaska being the largest state goes, it is only largest in terms of area. In terms of population (which I think matters a bit more when it comes to governing), it’s the third smallest. My nearest city (Columbus, Ohio) has a larger population.
You should get your facts straight about FNMA and FHLMC. Yes Obama did receive the 2nd highest amount of cash from them, but it was almost all from employees. He only received 16,000.00 from their lobbyists and executives while McCain received well over 100,000.00 from their lobbyists and executives. Do a simple google search and don’t get all your facts from FoxNews or right wing blogs. Try using factcheck.org before posting rethoric.
Don’t forget what Rick Davis got as a lobbyist for fannie/freddie, McCain’s campaign manager.
Why in the world would Obama get cash from PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY AS DEMOCRATS??? Da NOIVE!!! I tells ya, ain’t no sense in politics no more!
Not true, LN. They have in common the occupation of being community organizers, though I’ll grant the scale is different. More importantly though, you might note that the lol does not mention Obama at all. I believe what it does, rather neatly, is to skewer the Republican sneering at community organizers as a group.
I apologize for getting angry, but the constant propagation of a false image of Barack Obama on both sides is getting on my nerves. The right wants to portray the man as a Muslim, a terrorist, a baby-killer and who knows what else. The left wants to portray him as, well, the equivalent to every great man in history.
I’m sorry but Obama has done very little for this country and its people compared to the people he gets placed next to. He has played the game. He is firmly in bed with a political party. He has done nothing to change our country. If uniting 50% of the country is all that is required to be a great man, then our standards are lower than ever. Anyone with a microphone and a news camera can get half of the country cheering for him if he says the right keywords.
Kang: Abortions for all!
Crowd: BOOOO!
Kang: Very well, no abortions for anyone.
Crowd: BOOOO!
Kang: Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
Crowd: YAAAAAY!
Simpsons!!!
My fellow Americans. As a young boy, I dreamed of being a baseball, but
tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward,
and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!
But you’re not right in stating he will never be like MLK or that the only thing they have in common in race. That simply isn’t so, and what Obama will accomplish in his life remains to be seen. I can go back and forth arguing with you all day about whether or not Obama is in bed with his political party, blah blah blah, but the fact is he’s certainly accomplished enough for the people of Illinois to be a State senator for years and then be elected to represent them in the U.S. senate, and he has the potential to do plenty of great things for our country when he becomes president.
Not to mention he is a civil rights lawyer and a professor of constitutional law, and I think anyone who devotes their time and energy to teaching is making a meaningful contribution to their world.
You just argued that money is worthless if you haven’t spent it yet.
Your approval rating just dropped drastically.
gimme a break. not even close.
Have the Democrats conceded that Sarah Palin is also the governor of Alaska?
Sure, for what is now just coming up on two years. She’s the governor of a state of about 680,000, which is smaller than the population of many of our largest cities.
I’m not knocking small states in and of themselves, just that leading them is not necessarily qualification for leading a country of 270 million. Especially when Governor Palin was found guilty of abuse of power in those small circumstances. Imagine what she could do with even MORE power.
Along those same lines…
Have they conceded as well that she is also just going to be VICE president?
And don’t say “McCain’s going to die in office, so she’ll be president anyway” because seriously… He’s not that old.
She’s not going to be president. She’s not going to be vice president. She’ll be lucky if she can hang on to her current rank when this is all over.
I agree, she’ll be neither. But as 33% of vice presidents have eventually become president, by either election or inheritance, thins has to be seriously considered as your vote. Further increasing her odds are the facts that McCain would be the OLDEST elected first-term president, increasing the chances he could die by natural causes. Add in the fact that he has been treated for cancerous melanomas four times (and has been a bit squirrelly with his release of his medical records of late. Because of his risk for further cancers, his odds are increased even more that he will die in office. Therefore, his selection of Vice Presidential candidate has to be scrutinized more than for other candidates over the last few elections. I, for one, don’t want a nutjob like Sarah Palin as leader of the free world. So even if I liked McCains policies, I would have to consider whether I would vte for him because of her.
Seconded. The presidency is so stressful lately that I’d really be concerned for McCain’s health. And my god, if Sarah Palin becomes the most powerful person in the free world, I want off. Time to go colonize the moon or something.
Speaking of 33%, did you know that a 73 year-old American has a 33% chance of dying in the next 8 years? Add John’s 3 melanoma surgeries and years of abuse in Hanoi, and Sarah Palin as Presidentess looks very possible.
On a bit of a tangent here, but I’ve often wondered at what age it becomes a 50% chance to die in the next 12 months.
“Governor” doesn’t mean much in itself. Like with Shrub being governor of Texas–completely meaningless. It is a figurehead/bully pulpit position in that state; the lieutenant governor has more power, frankly.
So Mr. Shrub cheated his way into office twice with no meaningful experience in government whatsoever. If I walked into an HR office of, say, an accounting firm demanding to be hired as a CPA with no degree and no certification, they’d laugh me out the door. This idiot wanted to be President with no real leadership experience, several “top dog” jobs handed to him and he’d screwed up every one of them. *looks back at the past seven years of mess* Here’s your sign.
This is ridiculous. To compare Obama to MLK is a joke, and an incredible insult to MLK.
He was no community organizer. He was a LEADER. Obama is a stuffed suit.
You need to read the news more – you’re jumping to assumptions about what the lol is about because you’re ignorant about things that McCain & Palin have been saying.
They put down Obama as “just a community organizer,” while Palin is obviously much more experienced/meaningful/important because she’s in office in a small town. McCain & Palin are saying that community organizers are not important. THAT is what the lol is about. It actually has nothing directly to do with Obama. So get off your high horse and get educated about what’s going on around you.
No one’s comparing Palin to MLK, fool. Logic FAIL.
Awareness Fail. He pointed out that the LOL is based on the McCain-Palin ticket downplaying community organizing by saying “being mayor is kind of like being a community organizer except with actual responsibility” No one ever said that Palin was like MLK. Read what was posted.
Stating the Obvious FAIL! Community Organizers DON’T have any real responsibilities. It’s a volunteer job more or less. MLK is a great man, but Obama…wtf did he ever accomplish as a community organizer? Nothing.
Reading fail. I wasn’t referring to MLK at all in my post, nor have I at any point on this thread, shockingly enough. Some community organizers, and yes, other volunteers take on immense responsibilities. American Red Cross Disaster Relief anyone, The United Way? You are knocking volunteers? I’m sure the folks in hurricane zones, flood zones, impoverished neighborhoods, returning veterans in need of support, etc would differ with your opinion that volunteers and community organizers accomplish nothing.
Pardon me. Correction. My previous post also mentioned that someone was NOT like MLK, so I did mention him, but didn’t talk about him. Figured i’d get that out of the way before someone says “Did too!”
Um, all it means to be a “volunteer” is you’re not getting paid for the work you’re doing. What are you, five?
Being offended by one persons opinion, on a humor site = EPIC FAIL
I’m offended that they’re offended.
I’m offended you’re offended they’re offended.
I’m offended that you’re offended by them being offended by something that is supposed to be humor and yet was labled as offensive by offensive people. I am highly offended.
In bed…
Offensesensitivity !
They need some insensitivity training right away.
Berke Breathed FTW!
The picture doesn’t mention Senator Obama and doesn’t compare Senator Obama to Dr. King. What it does do is point out the insulting, condescending, narrow-minded shot taken by Sarah Palin. And in her next breath she accuses him of being an elitist.
I also don’t think that, just because the man isn’t another Dr. King, Senator Obama needs to crawl in a hole and pull the hole in after him. They are different me, working for the same cause in two different ways. They are both human, flawed, yet struggle to do good. If everyone who comes after Dr. King has to be BETTER than Dr. King, well, The Dream will die.
The pic wasn’t meant to say BO = MLK, because MLK>>>>BO.
It’s taking a stab at Palin’s attack on community organizers.
Seriously, before MLK came to mind I thought-…?
That’s like saying, soup kitchen workers? LOL! Bus Drivers? LOL! Volunteers? LOL!
Because every job in this country is all for the good of the country, and if anything, we should be thanking community organizers.
Did Barack use his experience as an organizer as a major point in his campaign? No. But yet, Sarah thought it was so ridiculous thta she had to take a stab at it.
Or were they simply running out of ideas, and that was the best they could come up with?
Only problem is Obama is no MLK. It’s like touting Obama as a Senator and saying McCarthy was a Senator too. It works in reverse too. Obama is not MLK, JFK or Jesus. He’s an inexperienced, ignorant senator who’s all flash and no substance and is beholden to ideology over reason.
Flash to the discussion about the repubs are really the only ones Deifying Obama. It’s on a different thread today.
You fail. All o’ you. You’re having a serious political discussion on the LOLCats network.
No one said you had to stay and read it.
PK is srs bsns.
Epic fail to every Republican in this discussion who deifies MLK as the Perfect Black Man but who supports policies that perpetuate institutional racism. Want racial-equality cred? Work for it. Words are cheap.
MLK = great American.
BHO = good for nothing.
John McCain voted against instituting the MLK day holiday multiple times, and even tried to get it removed in AZ. That’s what he thinks of the great man.
Race-baitor
Ah but does that stop it from being true and if so, what does that mean?
Well, you know, she is actually the Governor of the state of Alaska. Idiot.
MLK was atleast able to accomplish something that has assisted millions of people, then, and years later, and has a legacy that most people will respect for generations to come.
You say that it is about that comment Palin said, which is fine, I get it I get it, but though it does not come out explicitly, it is inadvertently comparing Obama to MLK. Yes MLK “organized” a community, a group of people, but he was also a major activist, which is how we know him.
I am not commenting on the political sides, though yeah it is political. I am looking at the psychological side of this particular LOL. You can say things without saying them…
As current standings are, tbh, neither major party has someone that I will sit and go OMG this person is qualified for President, and look at that awesome person they picked for VP. In fact last 2 runs have been pretty poor for the choosing.
When you study up on Obama’s “community organizing” with ACORN and his support for radical Afrocentric educational programs when he chaired the Annenberg board, one realizes that it is a JOKE for Obama supporters to use King’s image in comparison. As Lloyd Bentsen might say, “Senator, you’re no Doctor King!”
Gosh, Randy. When I grow up, I want to be an unrepentant racist, just like you. I’m sure we’d be really happy, just the two of us, settling down together in the 1850’s.
Afrocentric? Do people actually talk like that?
The next four years are going to be an awakening for you and your clan. I know it will be hard for you to accept the fact that America has become a more enlightened place and left you behind, but we aren’t going to slow down or change course just to ease your fear of the Negro man.
The racist here is Obama, not Randy.
Obama attended a racist church for 20 years, listening to Jeremiah Wright preach hatred against whites and Jews.
Obama is the ultimate race candidate.
Obama’s election will fly in the face of what MLK dreamt. Obama is judged worthy of the presidency because of his race and not the content of his character.
Just so you know.
I happen to agree with his policies actually…
Just so you know.
people…….PALIN IS A GOVERNOR!!!!!!!!! she was a mayor, now she is the CEO of the largest state in the Union! The majority of U.S. presidents were governors before they were Presidents! Sarah Palin IS more qualified than any of the candidates running today.
Those who are saying that Gov. Palin is not qualified to be vice Prez has to agree that Clinton, Roosevelt, Lincoln, Reagan, and Carter were also unqualified!!!
This campaign is the only thing Obama has led!
minerva146
October 14th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Sure, for what is now just coming up on two years. Sheโs the governor of a state of about 680,000, which is smaller than the population of many of our largest cities.
Iโm not knocking small states in and of themselves, just that leading them is not necessarily qualification for leading a country of 270 million. Especially when Governor Palin was found guilty of abuse of power in those small circumstances. Imagine what she could do with even MORE power.
Except that Obama has never governed anything and therefore is less qualified than Palin.
Except that Palin has never abused power — unlike Obama, who used his Senate position to funnel money to friends and relatives.
Really-She never abused her power because I could have swore there was a recent investigation and it was found that she did use her power to attempt to get her ex brother in law fired. I am so glad that she doesn’t make things personal and can always stay objective.
He makes up his “facts” just so you know.
The report said there MAY have been an abuse of power, she was cleared of ethics charges. It was never definite.
And if my dumbass brother in law tasered my nephew, I’d be all over him like white on rice!
Whether the guy was an jerk or not, is neither here nor there. It was up to his supervisors to determine the truth behind those allegations and take appropriate disciplinary action. Using her position to step on a few toes IS abuse of power. And see my link. She was found guilty. Although she was “within her rights” to fire the commissioner who wouldn’t do as she asked about the brother-in-law, you have to admit, it was pretty much out of spite.
If there was no wrongdoing, why was the GOP trying to get the investigation suppressed until after the election? They had to go to the courts about it, but were shot down.
If you call protecting others “spite,” then I’d hate to rely
on you to protect anyone….
How does this even make sense,. He refused to fire the guy because he knew it would be unethical to do so and an abuse of her Gubernatorial power. She fired him for saying so.
“A 263-page report released Friday by lawmakers in Alaska found that Ms. Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, had herself exerted pressure to get Trooper Michael Wooten dismissed, as well as allowed her husband and subordinates to press for his firing, largely as a result of his temperament and past disciplinary problems.
โSuch impermissible and repeated contacts,โ the report states, โcreate conflicts of interests for subordinate employees who must choose to either please a superior or run the risk of facing that superiorโs displeasure and the possible consequences of that displeasure.โ The report concludes that the action was a violation of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.”
All ethics questions aside, how is Alaska’s trooper law so lax that an obviously negligent and dangerous trooper was left in his job? In Texas, if they find out that you were unfaithful to your wife you are disqualified from even applying for the job, and if there is even a hint of impropriety you are run out of the job.
Depends on if adultery is a crime in Alaska.
I believe that it is. But that isn’t the question, I was questioning how something so relatively small (these days and times) as adultery could get you kicked out, but tasering a 10 year old is ok? Or drinking on the job? Or abuse of his own power as a trooper?
My mistake, I couldn’t be bothered actually looking up what you were talking about.
Why do I never learn from that mistake?
I still love you, even if you are being sarcastic
You were just changing the subject aftet I showed she is actually found guiltyy
I realise it came off as sarcastic, but I almost entirely meant what I said.
And since Delaware only has 180K more population makes him qualified over
her? And he’s a senator not a governor, to boot…
no, below is why he’s more qualified:
* Like Barack Obama, Biden has been an outspoken critic of Bushโs handling of the war in Iraq.
* Bidenโs leadership was instrumental in helping to bring stability and peace to the Balkans. In 1999, Biden wrote a resolution endorsing the air war in Kosovo that was passed by the Senate.
* Biden is a leader on the congressional effort to end genocide in Darfur.
* In the late 1990s, Biden led the effort in the Senate to bring Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic into NATO and to pass the Chemical Weapons Treaty.
* Biden has been instrumental in crafting almost every major piece of crime legislation over the past two decades. His Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 put more than 100,000 police officers on Americaโs streets and has been credited with bringing down crime rates to the lowest in a generation.
* In 1996, Biden authored legislation to create a national registry of sex offenders, which tracks people convicted of sex crimes involving violence or committed against minors.
* Biden authored and passed the landmark Violence Against Women Act, the strongest legislation to date that criminalizes domestic violence and holds batterers accountable.
* Biden was a strong supporter of the Family and Medical Leave Act, cracked down on deadbeat dads, and has been a consistent champion for equal pay.
* Biden was one of the first to introduce legislation to address global warming and he co-sponsored the most aggressive piece of climate change legislation in the U.S. Senate.
* Biden is a champion on the issue of making college more affordable by using the tax code to reduce costs.
* Biden was successful in passing a provision that prevents budget cuts to military facilities while the nation is at war, one of his key priorities, ensuring that all veterans have top-notch medical treatment in a fully-funded VA health care system.
Senator Biden has a proven record of bringing people together to get things done. From global warming to combating violence against women to confronting the challenges of the dangerous world in which we live, Joe Biden has fought every day over the course of his life in public service to improve the lives of middle class families.
Out of curiosity, let’s see if you will do the same research and post McCain’s record up for everyone to see
sure, there’s lots of information about Keating available. Seriously tough, McCain used to not be that bad, and nobody is debating his war record. It’s just that being a POW doesn’t qualify him for president. He’s not the same “Maverick” as he once was anyway. he has sold his soul to Karl Rove and Dick Cheney a few years back and is now just a neo-con tool, no matter what he maybe used to be.
Yeh, but Obama is no Martin Luther King….
OMG, you are so stupid. please find the nearest bridge and jump off it.
holy cow, how did this many comments show up? aren’t they all pretty much about the same thing? (watch there be another comment like this one. that would be kinda ironic. but whatev.) jeez.
And the Indiana Jones Award for digging crap up in Feb 09 goes to Leah… We’ve put special plastic on the points so she doens’t hurt herself on the sharps…
Absolutely everyone in this thread completely missed what this pic was talking aboot