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This is what eight years of borrow and spend, tax breaks for the rich, deregulation, and trickle down voodoo economics get you. Remember this. This is a defining moment in the failure of an entire ideology, akin to the failure of communism when the Berlin wall came down.
If only.
Yeah. Too bad no matter who’s picked, the cycle will just re-start itself. Are they ready to at least call this a recession yet? It’s getting close to a depression…….
“The media have accurately predicted 36 out of the last two recessions.” -Zig Ziglar.
Recession has a rigorous definition: two consecutive quarters of negative growth of the economy. To date, we have not had one *month* of this.
The economy is growing slowly, but it is still growing.
Then why has it been nearly impossible to get a steady job for the last three years? I know, I’m too old but can’t prove the discrimination. The economy is
growing, alright, it’s growing mold. It’s growing more money for those who already have most of it. It’s growing wings and flying away. It’s growing an island for the Bushes and Cheneys and their accomplices to retire to and watch the rest of us starve.
I guess it really depends on the type of work you do. The city in which I live is creating jobs on a daily basis, and it’s pretty good here…….but I realize that my experience isn’t everyone else’s, so I’ll shut up now.
Like all the poor Hollywood elite ?
Really? Then how come unemployment here is up 15%, gas prices have come down, but, oops, there’s no gas!??? My retirement fund dissapeared…. If you happen to see it in your fantasy land, hold onto it for me, will ya?
If the economy was in such horrible shape as people believe, my company, which is notoriously tight-fisted and stingy, wouldn’t be expanding operations nearly as fast as it’s going. I’m not saying there are no problems, but the economy isn’t going backwards.
Depends on your company’s business though. What do they do there?
Poultry production. The workforce here is so bad that we can’t pay people enough to stay and work. I’ve never seen the like of it………they would rather sit home and stay on welfare than work an actual job……..quitting after a day……….but of course, they drive better vehicles than I do so I guess it’s not all bad. The point is, there are jobs out there, but (in my town, at least), no one wants to work them.
In a truly capitalist society, that would cause your employer to raise wages to the point the job was worth doing. Are your workers unionized? If they were, things might be a little better.
In our union plants, we weren’t able to give a pay raise. They bitched and moaned and wouldn’t accept the terms of the deal (that one of the jobs became an upgrade that you have to apply for), so they turned down the raise. Our non-union plants, on the other hand, received two raises in the last year. Our people make more per hour now than any other entry level job in the entire city. By a lot. This is just the weirdest workforce I have ever seen.
If people are quitting after one day, perhaps you should take a closer look at the working conditions. It has been my experience that any employer will work an employee to the point of inhuman treatment, then fire him/her for inefficiency. That’s why Personnel became “Human Resources”: a resource is something to be exploited, used up and replaced. But that’s just been my experience. I’ll shut up now.
I was actually going to say something to that effect. It is easy to blame the workers. If they are lazy, that can’t be helped. But if there is a problem with the work, then perhaps that can be improved to retain employees.
They can’t ALL be lazy, least I wouldn’t think so.
I think a lot of laziness on the job stems from resentment. “This is my $7.00/hour rate. You want more work outta me, you pay me more, or give me healthcare.” Not all laziness, mind you. I work for the state so I see a lot of different kinds of laziness. But laziness is complicated, isn’t it? Take the laziest guy in the world, put him on a task he loves to do, and he isn’t lazy anymore, is he? So, isn’t that one of the things management is getting the big bucks for, figuring out how to motivate people? I think in most cases where you see lazy workers, you see bad management right behind them.
Well said. That’s why I’m trying to find a job I’ll like. You want to be good at it so you can move up in the company. If you enjoy it, you’ll be good at it, and if you’re good at it, you’ll get paid more, and in turn, you’ll enjoy it more. It’s a healthy cycle!
A lot of it also stems from alcholism and drug use which is rampant. Some people will work until they get their first paycheck, quit and go out and get high or drunk. Then when they run out of money they do it again.
I’m not claiming that alcohol and drugs aren’t a problem, but I think you are seriously overstating how much of a problem they are. The only time I see anything like what you describe is in communities with unemployment rates in the double digits. People self medicate with drugs and alcohol to cope.
Ema, I really hope you aren’t infering that most laziness and unproductivity stems from people just soaking up booze… Please tell me you aren’t saying that.
Seth I’ve seen it, and ya, they need to stop self medicating like that, it’s not medicine. I am talking about people that have jobs. Wyrm, I don’t know if it’s most, but I lived in a rural SE AZ for some years and knew business owners who could never keep employees after the first paycheck and that was why. I am not armed with facts for the entire country though… So just take this as an off hand comment on what I have seen as a contributor to the problem.
We didn’t have gas in Atlanta for two weeks (I had to use gasprices.com to find it and go out at 3 and 4 in the morning to get it–and I drive a limousine.) But it has come back.
The 15% figure is disturbing. Could that be due to local conditions? Where do you live? Georgia’s unemployment is at its highest in a long time–at something under 6%. Your username sounds as if Michigan wouldn’t be far off . . .
Ooo – someone from back home. I miss it so.
You from heah?
Yeah, I had the same trouble last week trying to get home from Tech. There’s an AM/PM that usually has at least some up here during the day on Spring Street. You just have to wait awhile. That was last week anyway. This week things have finally calmed down, methinks.
Yup. From the Chamblee portion of Atlanta.
I’m currently in Marietta, but after being here for 30 years have lived pretty much everywhere north and east of I-20 and I-75–Peachtree at Lindbergh, Decatur, Stone Mountain, Cheshire Bridge at Lenox Rd., Roswell, Norcross, Marietta twice.
And by the way–what fantasy land? I cited Zig Ziglar as saying that the media are alarmists in general, and in this case about the economy in particular.
The fact that the economy is growing, albeit slowly, is indisputable; you can check any number of sources. Likewise the fact that we as a nation are not in a recession, although you may be *locally*.
I am far more broke than you are, probably more so than anyone here, and I take personal responsibility for that. I plan to change it by using the principles in Dave Ramsey’s “The Total Money Makeover” (https: / / beta.daveramsey.com/shop/prod326.html), which is by my bedside.
That I am broke ain’t the gummint’s fault, nor will they get credit for my prosperity when I achieve that. MY responsibility.
Is it really? I mean Lehman Bro looked fine last quarter- but they were, um, well, I think the word is Lying (sp?- I am a terrible speller and a dyslexic typer). SO I am not sure we can trust numbers coming from CEOs that make more money when they lie about their growth? It seems very unlikely that AIG, Wachovia, WaMu, LB, etc, etc, etc all failed just in the last month- I think they have been failing and hiding it. That is part of the credit crunch problem- no one wants to loan money to any of there colleagues, because they know many of them are hiding their true losses, and the whole system fell apart. And to be fair, many also do not KNOW how big their losses are- Paulson just “made up a really large number”…no one really knows- so can we really trust these numbers at the moment? It seems irrational to do so to me.
I am not talking about numbers from CEOs, and nor should you trust them. Some former hotshots are going to be led away in handcuffs, not least the ones from Fannie and Freddie whom we *know* cooked the books.
But nor am I talking about the finances of a few companies. I am talking about the national economy.
Politics aside, and as simply stated as I know how–the mortgage thing happened because lenders were pressured into making loans to people who shouldn’t have qualified. The bad loans were rolled into bonds which were sold to both American and foreign companies, such as banks and brokerage firms, which is why *their* markets are so deeply affected. THEY TRUSTED US, and we sold them a bill of goods–literally.
The only numbers I am asking you to trust are (a) that the American economy is growing, and (b) we are not in a recession. It is an economic technical term, not an emotional condition, and we don’t meet the criteria. Both facts are easily verifiable.
Yeah, and too bad that after those eight years, there was nothing Bush could do in his own eight years to reverse it.
Ahahaha. Clinton presided over the largest economic expansion in recent history. Bush screwed it up. The financial statistics on the matter are plain as day. Democratic policies are simply better for the economy. Everyone does better under Democratic leadership, even the rich that the Republicans try to help do better under Democrats, because the Republican economic ideology is fundamentally flawed and divorced from reality.
No matter how bad it gets, people never admit when they’re wrong. Good points Seth.
What points? All he said was Clinton was president when the economy is strong. This is capitalism. As much as you’d like to think that Clinton or Bush created a good and bad economy, you’ll eventually have to realize that this is capitalism. As such, the largest influence on the economy is going to be the businesses and workers, or rather, the economy itself. It is a separate entity from the government. To say Clinton = good economy and Bush = bad is an oversimplification to an almost disgusting degree. There are so many other factors at work. I could present facts that support my view (click name), and you’d unanimously ignore them and fling the facts you’ve all used before, and again in such numbers that no one could respond to you because they’ve simply been drowned out.
That being said, I’m sick of American politics. Let’s go Canadian! Who do you think should have sovereignty over the Northwest Passage?
If what you say is true, why is there such a direct correlation between Democratic control and prosperity? Why does the country consistently do worse when Republicans take power? Could it be because Republicans don’t believe that government works, and whenever they get power, they attempt to prove it?
Yet the Democrap run Congress screwed things up, not Bush. He can only veto or sign bills.
Republicans ran congress on the economy’s way up when Clinton was president. Republicans ran congress most of the time on the economy’s way down as Bush was President.
It’s not just capitalism. There have been laws and executive orders enacted during both administrations that either encourage business and by proxy economic growth or stunt it. We do not have a free market as you are suggesting because the government and the Federal Reserve retain some kind of control over how everything is going. TO say it’s capitalism is a gross oversimplification. The point that I believe Seth was trying to point out to you, which you blindly ignored, was that Democrats’ policies toward the economy and business have allowed for more prosperity than the Republicans’ policies.
Here, here!!! Well spoken.
Funny SNL skit on economy. This was deleted from SNL website, wonder why? (Takes awhile to load, not hosted on youtube)
They are removed because they make Democrats look bad, viz. the “Alaska Press Conference” from a coupla weeks ago.
BTW, they are so funny because they are so true. Even Dems have to admit (and laugh at) their own internal inconsistencies when they become so overwhelmingly obvious. It’s the power brokers at the top and the know-nothings at the bottom who can’t see, admit, or allow the humor this close to election.
it was removed because they used the real names of that married couple that screwed over Wachovia. (not the time share ones) And because they had a cap under the names: People who should be shot (or man who should be shot) …
They are saying they will put it back after editing it enough to not get sued.
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It is a move based on their lawyers screaming “OH GOD, WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE SUED!!!” not one based on Democrats screaming “OH GOD, NOW WE LOOK BAD TOO!!!”
Of course the “KAHNSPEERASEEZ!!!!” are more fun than simple litigation avoidance
So what about the “Alaska Press Conference” skit?
The Media Obamatrons are carefully censoring anything that might make the Messiah look bad- like here.
censoring not required, nothing makes him look bad, you’ve got him confused with Palin, she makes McCain look horrible.
Comfy little straight jacket in that padded room of yours ?
No, Megabob — tell me when are you coming clean with your Hee-ro stats?
Reports of the demise of capitalism have been somewhat exaggerated.
Also, the masking tape store down the block is doing well.
The peasants are revolting!!! Quick invest in torches and pitchforks!!!
I should invest in office supply stock.
You shouldn’t insult the peasants like that…
They just need baths.
Quick, invest in shower technology… I think it has growth potential.
Showers for the masses!! yeah!!
Perhaps I should invest in soap stocks. That might have an upcoming boom…
The masses need rubber ducks NOW!!
*starts buying stock*
Those dern masses never seem to run out of needs! I suppose they will need towels next!!
The masses need towels NOW!!
Damn, I am running out of investment money.
Dont worry, ask your senator. They’re freakin magicians at pulling
money out of nowhere and giving it away! I mean cmon… at least
towels have a ROI!
Good point. I can has Bailout?!
The last time a government set up “showers” for the masses was Dachau ?
(Shudder !)
DON’T PANIC! And always carry a towel.
Wanna get high?
towelie, you completely missed the reference. Here’s a hint, it isn’t South Park.
I need to read that book and watch the movie again… :/
I’m gonna get high.
DWN,
Try to get a copy of the BBC production, which only covered the first three books. The production is cheap, the sound is HORRIBLE, and they NAILED the spirit of the thing. LOL.
R.
Like the shirt says – save water, shower together. It’ll save money too!
There are better ways to flirt with me, ya know.
Going Out of Business: USA
Now, THAT’S funny, regardless of context.
Reminds me of a particular shop which remained open in London during the Blitz, despite the nightly attacks. The owner kept a placard up saying, “Open as usual.” When he returned one morning to find the building destroyed, he reworded the sign to read, “MORE Open than usual.”
LMAO!
The ad at the Bottom of the page:
“DONATE $12 TO REGISTER NEW VOTER and GET A FREE OBAMA SHIRT”
THAT’S ALL YOU’LL HAVE TO WEAR AFTER HIS REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH PLANS!
THEY TRIED TO REGISTER THE DALLAS COWBOYS’ ENTIRE PLAYING SQUAD IN NEVADA VOTER DRIVE.
CROOKED POLITICS, SOCIALISM, HIGHER TAXES, MARXIST PLANS, LIES!
OH BOY! I’M VOTING FOR HIM. I CAN’T WAIT! END OF AMERICA HERE WE COME.
Once again, the capslock marks you as a deep thinker.
Oh this made me lol, thank you Mark!
Mark’s got my vote for Pres of PK…. Perhaps you need a running mate? One
that can plagiarize or wink too damn much to scare away your votes?
Hmm? Hmm?!
I nominate eddiepscetti, but I don’t know how his winking skills are.
Silence the fool, my minions!
Thanks for the support (blush)!
Frankly, although I disagree with Eddie about, oh, everything, I’m sure being associated with such a smart, principled thinker would only make me look good.
Sooo, you’re my opponent now? Damn, I nominate Maxwell Silverhammer as my running mate. If he votes for you, then he will be somebody of wise character to help improve my image on the Issue Beating platform.
TERRORIST!!! KILL HIM!!!!
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You really want to vote like that guy?
So what you’re saying is… you’re going out of business?
Well I love it this one. It made me LOL, like lols should!
The thing is, it’s all very much out of balance. One one hand you have people who are so rich that they could use 20 dollar bills as toilet paper for a year and still be rich. On the other hand, there are people like me who have to rely on the few generous rich people just for high school. (Thank you JKCF!) And then the people who live in a half-rotten mobile home and scour the town for dropped wallets all day just to get along. The scales are out of balance……
But as everyone knows, the heavier side goes down and the lighter side goes up. One day this is going to change.
We might as well have a faith based government – we already have a faith based money system. The ONLY value that our current money has is that the person who is paid with it has faith that it will be desired by the person he tries to pay with it. When everyone wakes up to that, I shudder to think what will happen. I will not be listening to complaints unless they are from people who have documented proof that they tried to do something to stop it. That should save me tons of time.
Dood!