It’s OK because they’re white and wealthy.
It’s OK because they’re white and wealthy.
(Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston)
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The party of double talk and double standards once again demonstrates how it’s done.
Divorce in 4… 3… 2…
The party of racism and envy once again smears the child of a candidate.
Keep it sleazy, Dems.
The racism comment is not worth a response, but what are they supposedly envious of?
It’s racist to imply that something is okay just because “they’re white”.
Of course, the “wealthy” part is a reflection of envy. Not that the Palins are particularly wealthy, certainly not as wealthy as the Obamas.
It’s not racist if it’s a fact.
TRUEFAX = YOU’RE DOIN’ IT RITE
the comment isn’t racist, what’s racist is the acceptability
and the normativity of Palin’s daughter’s out-of-wedlock
motherhood. It’s racist to accept her situation without
condemnation because the American public is constantly
condemning young and poor women of color (predominantly
black and Latinas) for the SAME THING.
Racial double standards are racist. This image is only
depicting the sad and racist reality of the issue.
Do you even know how Obama got wealthy? Look it up before you make a comment that degrades him. McCain has how many houses, and Obama has one. Now, who would you rather have leading the nation in this economic chaos? The man who can lose a handful of houses and still have a bed to sleep in, or the man who only has one house, and understands? I’m going for the guy with one house.
It’s not smearing the child, it’s pointing out the hypocrisy of your party. Keep it ignorant, wingnuts.
It’s smearing the child. That’s the child, right there in the picture. The picture does not say anything about the party.
Keep it sleazy, moonbats.
Ummm, since McCain was the one to “disclose” the pregnancy how does that make the Republican party sleazy? Oh wait… never mind…
Disclose is not the same as make fun of, or at the cost of. Really. The dictionary says so. Also, I see no hypocrisy here. She did the crime, and she and her family are living to code they ascribe to. Just as I am sure if Chelsea Clinton ever got pregnant as a teenager, Hillary would just drive her over to the nearest baby killer and have the child taken care of. That would be them living up to the code that they have established themselves. Now, considering the money. My Mom told me, “If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.” Well, some people do have the resources to do the time, including the one above. So she can afford to be less responsible. Some people cannot. THose that cannot should be more careful. It has nothing to do with their color or anything like it. Just like Obama’s Mama who got pregnant with him at around the same age. Even Obama said that this should not be an issue. Maybe you should run with the message of your messiah and leave her alone.
Yeah, ya gotta love a double standard. A politician that tells people to do things one way but does not follow those rules in her own hosehold. Nahhh, no hypocrisy there. And we should definitely stuff our government with as many conscienceless hypocrites as we possibly can.
So pregnancy is a crime and the institution of marriage is akin to doing time in prison? I knew those lovely Republican values gave me the warm and fuzzies for a reason!
Also, anyone willing to take bets on whether the child in question would still be marrying her baby daddy if mommy wasn’t the Republican VP nom? Anyone?
You know whats funny? WHen this “scandal” first came out. Obama got on national television to tell everyone to leave them alone.
He stuck up for her and her child. And the CHOICE they made. Yeah. CHOICE. If the positions had been switched the republican party would have smeared His family across the boards. Not that they dont now.
Keep it mindless, douchebag
MUSLIM UPPITY WHITEY RESKO AYERS WRIGHT
Need I say more?
they’re not Democrats.
Indeed.
If this were Biden’s kid…watch out folks, Biden is a horrible parent…
If this were Biden’s kid, liberals wouldn’t be sliming her on Pundit Kitchen.
Shame on you all.
“if you fool me once, shame on you… if… if… well…
you fool me once you can’t get fooled again”
somehow, EP you remind me of that quote…
Where are the vicious lols attacking Biden’s kid?
Oh, that’s right, there are none.
Liberals are hypocrites.
Post pictures worth making LOLz from and we will get to it.
No, I won’t descend to the level of liberals.
DESCEND, MY BROTHER! JOIN US IN OUR LIBERAL GLORY!
*evil liberal laugh FTW*
Dude, stay cool, k? I’ll admit that I’m a liberal, but let me tell you this:
Bristol and Levi made a choice, and now they have to deal with the consequences. Simple as that.
CONSEQUENCES: NOT EVEN CONSERVATIVES ARE IMMUNE
What’d Biden’s child do again and what standard is Biden holding forth that he’s not following himself again?
Larry Craig would like to differ along with his buddies from the pro-war and somehow pro-life party HA!
No, of course not…Conservatives would be sliming her on Pundit Kitchen.
No, wait, I take that back: Conservatives would be sliming her on AM radio and prime-time T.V.
AM radio, sure, but prime-time TV? Do you actually watch TV?
Is anyone sliming Barack Obama’s kids? Or Biden’s?
The only kids being slimed are Sarah Palin’s. By slimy liberals.
You have this obsession with slime. Is it a sexual thing?
Probably needs a lot of it to, uh, well you know….
That’s because her kids are the only one’s worth sliming.
Hate. hate ,hate…..
Kid. Singular. One out of five children is being singled out for basically being proof that abstinence only, which Palin brought to the state of Alaska, was being extolled at the pulpit of the family’s church, and it is reasonably inferred that it was mentioned sometime during the girl’s puberty, does not work.
I don’t care about girls getting pregnant. I don’t care if she keeps it. And I have not seen anything bad said about the girl being pregnant. The whole reason she is being singled out is because she is living proof that abstinence-only education doesn’t work. Because if it did, clearly she would not be pregnant because she is right in the middle of the whole “no sex before marriage” belief.
Ya, we are mocking hypocrisy, not the kid. Get it right people!
Person. Singular. One out of many people on this thread is being singled out for basically being proof that stupidity only, which EP brought to Pundit Kitchen, was being extolled by right wing fundies, and it is reasonably inferred that it was ingrained sometime during EP’s childhood, is as stupid as it sounds.
Has anyone considered pretending that EP doesn’t exist? You know if we all ignored him we’d quit fueling his fire.
I know it’s really hard to resist cutting him down (he makes it so easy), but we proven over and over that it doesn’t work.
If she had received more mainstream sex ed and had still gotten pregnant, wouldn’t that prove that mainstream sex ed, as a whole, doesn’t work? ‘Cuz that seems to be the argument. I don’t think that she should have to marry him, either, and can understand why there’s so much debate. But her personal choice doesn’t negate the logic behind the school of thought that says “if you don’t have sex you can’t get pregnant”. No one seems to factor in that there are millions of people for which abstinence-only has worked. There’s no system of education that’s foolproof because there are always going to be individuals who will completely ignore what they’ve been taught and make everyone else look dumb…and that goes for both camps.
AMEN
No. Comprehensive sex education includes instructing how to use a condom, talking about birth control and what it actually is (not a so called ‘abortificant’ as Palin has described it) in addition to saying that abstinence is the only way to not get pregnant. If she had gotten pregnant after being taught about all of the ways to prevent such a thing that would show that she failed at learning, it would not prove the failure of teaching the things. You can show the kids the tools they have accessible, show them how to use them but you can’t force them to use them.
However, abstinence only education, which teaches just don’t have sex with no mention of any other ways to prevent pregnancy, gives the kids no tools and no showing them that they are available. I know that it is going to be pointed out that there are commercials and such for condoms and birth control, so they must know that they exist. However, every condom commercial I have ever seen doesn’t show what they are or how they are used. And birth control has consistently and across the board been marketed as a way to control your period and its symptoms, not to prevent pregnancy. And the ones that mention preventing pregnancy always have a married woman already with kids hawking the pharma companies’ wares.
Clearly abstinence is the only 100% effective way to prevent pregnancy and STIs. No one is disputing that or denying that. But you cannot expect every teen to do the same and the number of teen pregnancy will decrease if teens are given the tools and knowledge of the tools to do it.
Typical Liberal response to use facts to back up an argument.
actually thats quite rare
Hmmm.
I’m confused. Aren’t fact NECESSARY to back up an argument.
Or do you just rely on biased propaganda?
Okay, that’s it. Get out of the discussion now. You are using facts and sense and logic and we just CAN NOT have that in a nasty political debate. Outta the pool, young lady.
And we’ll be takin’ your pool pass too, so you can’t come back and try to make those logical arguments anymore!
Should I or shouldn’t I?
…
Ah hell, why not.
Ahem *cough*
“In Bed…”
Oh crap. I was caught out of the kitchen/bedroom. And in a pool no less. I am so sorry that your dinner wasn’t ready on time, I’ll get on that right away.
*snicker*
Is she a kid that knows other kids her age? Yes,she is. And at the age she’s at sex and condoms and such aren’t all that uncommon for them to talk about. She more than likely knew what they were, she isn’t retarded. And everyone makes it seem like the guy had no say in what was going on. He could have used a condom himself,even if she didn’t know what they were!
Yeah and kids also like to talk about how you can’t get pregnant your first time and you won’t get drunk if you drink the alcohol through a straw. You can’t teach abstinence only and then just expect that because “kids talk about these things” that they will know about it. And I never said that he wasn’t responsible either. But he was also subjected to the abstinence only education that omits teaching about condoms. It’s not like B. Palin was given special abstinence only education and he wasn’t.
i’m gay. i taught myself about condoms before i started having sex because my ultra-conservative baptist parents wouldn’t allow me to take sex ed, and they taught me that sex was fun, but only if married to a woman in God’s eyes and that even being married and using condoms was a no-no.
i’m glad i was an enterprising teen.
So am I. Stay smart and stay well.
there was more but i hit a button…
i knew more about heterosexual sex then any of my classmates who took the course because i did my own research on pregnancy/diseases/other unsafe sexual practices. most of these kids giggeled thier way through sex ed and took very little from it other then condoms and birth control stop babies (which they don’t always do, my godson is living proof of that on both accounts, his mom was on a pill and they used condoms during sex and she STILL got knocked up). most of them didn’t even think about condoms useage unless thier girlfriend was in her fertile period which is why i never dated/slept with anyone in my school, diseases were rampant.
at least cromprehensive sex-ed provides info on the tools, if not the willpower needed to use them.
I have to disagree with that last statement (”…the number of teen
pregnancy will decrease if teens are given the tools and knowledge
of the tools to do it”. )The number of teen pregnancies will decrease
when we completely remove their hormones. Because as you said,
“You can show the kids the tools they have accessible, show them how
to use them but you can’t force them to use them”. The only teenagers
who will use proper protection and contraception are those that are
responsible…the same kind that will look into what those strange and
mystical condoms are and how they work when they decide to have
intercourse. (And I’m definitely not saying that anyone who has been
“caught up in the moment” is completely irresponsible. Mistakes are
mistakes and even the best people make them.) I know that I somehow
figured it all out…even after my abstinence only education. ‘Cuz when
I was in school, I was also taught how to read…weird, huh?
Ha..how to read, but clearly not how to write.
We can’t make any educational program work in this country. why do you think we can or can not teach abstinence only? you say because one person didn’t git it no one can? if your going say something doesn’t work don’t just point at one person and say HA show some scientific evidence and on a general note can we stop with all the race bating and class warfare?
If anyone should have understood abstinence only, it should have been Bristol. She lived in a state where her mother implemented the abstinence only education, she went to a church that extolled no sex before marriage, and her mother and father seem to have some ideas of their own on the subject. It’s anecdotal evidence.
If you want some scientific evidence click the name. In Texas, the number teen pregnancies remained the same for 10 years in spite of $1.5 billion dollars spent on abstinence only education. If it truly did work at preventing teen pregnancy, one would expect to see a drop in the numbers.
Do a Google search of “teen pregnancy abstinence only” and you will get a number of other results with scientific evidence that back this up.
No, Sarah Palin does not support abstinence only sex education. Link attached. In her own words: “No, I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don’t have a problem with that. That doesn’t scare me, so it’s something I would support also.”
Also in her own words, “Explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.” In the circles that typically set the curriculum for sex-ed, explicit means including informaion on contraceptives. Also, the same article stated how the federal funding works for that part of education. Your state’s school gets money if it teaches abstinence only, it doesn’t get money if it teaches explicit sex-ed. California is the only state that has declined the federal funding. Palin had the opportunity to turn down the funding and put her money where her mouth is on the contraception issue, but did not. Also, McCain/Palin campaign officers have said that their candidates stand by abstinence being the only safe and responsible alternative.
Also she is a part of Feminists for Life, which teaches that hormonal birth control is a kind of abortion (which it is not) and plays up the small risks that are associated with birth control.
Oh, then why did she say this: ‘But in August of that year, Palin was asked during a KTOO radio debate if “explicit” programs include those that discuss condoms. Palin said no and called discussions of condoms “relatively benign.”‘
Obviously your definition of “explicit” and hers is different. I am going to take her by her word. Whatever her personal opinions are of birth control and sex eduction are obviously not what she implements in service to the public at large, which is the way it goes for many pro-life politicians. She does not support abstinence only sex education and her daughter Bristol was taught sex education the same as any other child, including condom use. If CA is the only state turning down federal funding does that mean every other state must teach abstinence only? I know that is NOT true. Also “Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said the governor stands by her 2006 statement, supporting sex education that covers both abstinence and contraception.” So, how can that be missinterpreted?
You take her at her word and I will take her by her actions. Remember, actions speak louder than words.
Well what are her actions? Prove that they only teach abstinence only sex education in all of Alaska, it’s just not true.
Also, if we can’t take her by her work, can we take Obama by his word? It’s not really fair is it?
I was actually talking about the fact that her word and her actions seem to be two different animals not even in the same biosphere at times. However, I am going to concede this one because I lack the brain to properly debate.
Curse you evenings and your effect on my brain!!!
Ok, you owe me one!!
I think I actually owe you two.
The sex ed classes in Alaska do stress abstinence, however, proper education on prevention such as birth control and condoms is included. What a child takes away from the class and how they put it into practice is up to them.
Thank you! You see, that is in no way abstinence ONLY. So, Bristol Palin was obviously educated on birth control methods as well. Please can we put this rumor behind us now?!
That is what worries me, the whole what she extols but does not implement. Good for her for supporting contraception and teaching about it. Now why didn’t she decline the federal funding? For the record, if the school teaches anything besides abstinence only then it does not receive federal funding. And I want to know how you know what exactly Bristol was taught? Just because some schools in the largest state in the union teach explicit sex education (not my definition, the Department of Education’s) does not mean that Bristol automatically was taught that. Have you sat in on all the calsses in Alaska? Or even the classes that Bristol attended? Or have you even looked at the lesson plans from her health teacher? How do you know that her school was one that declined the federal funding? How do you know for a fact that Bristol was taught about condoms?
I don’t live in Alaska, but I know for a fact that Wasilla is crawling with reporters now who would love to dig up dirt on Gov. Palin. If there was anyway they could say Bristol’s high school taught abstinence only sex education it would be all over the news right now. Just because someone knows about condoms does not automatically mean they won’t get pregnant. Many teenage girls, especially in rural areas, want nothing more than to get pregnant and get married.
I could be wrong, way wrong, and am willing to be. But my undestanding is that “abstinence only” education means that kids are taught that absitnence is the only 100% way to avoid getting pregnant. Every other form of birth control does have incidences of pregnancy. My brother has two condom children and birth control pill child. He was not a teenager when he had them, but they were all surprises. Good surprises, but surprises nonetheless. Now I can tell you, since I was at prime lets-make-sexy-time ages when the kids were born, there was not better lesson on birth control. None.
Of course $1.5 billion dollars didn’t do any thing that was my POINT. The U.S. education system is broken!!! And I didn’t say I was for abstinence only, I was saying Because one person FAILED dos not mean all will FAIL. Every day I can point out people who fail simple things, but it doesn’t mean no one can win.
No, they’re sliming Trig too. Remember all those false stories claiming he was really Palin’s grand-daughter? They were being pushed by liberals on this blog two weeks ago.
Liberals have no sense of justice or decency; they will do or say anything in order to destroy their enemies and seize power.
I see, so they do this all the time and it has never worked. The “noble” conservatives have been in power for a long time and everything is in the pot. Care to explain or shall I just expect you to shit on the keyboard again?
Jamie-Lynn spears + Papa Bear Bill O = Conservative tolerance
Some how I think Jamie-Lynn Spears kid is not going to be better off than Palin’s daughters kid…
The point is the two faced hypocritical nature of the republican party
Democrats are often guilty too, but on this issue, the republicans really went for the homerun.
In Papa Bears Own (paraphrased) Words; ” The blame lays firmly on the parents: Pinheads.”
The difference between the Spears And the Palins is the Spears didn’t just have a pregnant daughter the hole family was a mess and bill had complained about it before Jamie-Lynn Spears got pregnant. Bills (paraphrased) quote was taken out of contents. And buy the way if you git your news from comedians why should any one take you seriously?
No, it would be *you* doing the sliming. Punk.
Evil Pundit 1- liberal musician 0
or imagine if Obama’s Daughter was a little older, was pregnant, and had a boyfriend that boasted instead of being a “redneck” about being a “gangsta” who likes to “shoot some shit” and he’d fuck you up if you messed with him.
Dear God…Just imagine how’d they treat that…
Imagine if Obama had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, dumped his first wife, had a temper problem, picked some random loopy no-name as VP, and was white; he’d be McCain.
Imagine if Obama had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, so not technically
a natural citizen. McCain and his cronies would have cried foul and demanded he be ineligible to be president!
So, if people are serving in the military it means that their children are not US citizens? But of course they are. And if the US parents just so happen to be out of the country their children would still be Americans right? Why punish the very men and women that are willing to give their lives to protect this country? Why punish them by taking citizenship away from their children?
On another topic, if universal health care is so great why to Canadians travel to the US for surgery? Why do British bad teeth stereotype come from? I am sure that is has nothing to do with the national health care system. Have you ever been on an HMO? Yeah, its crappy. And soon, everyone is going to get crappy health care. Just as long as everyone gets the same thing. Hmm. I think we’ve heard about this concept before, and it doesn’t work well.
I don’t understand why so many democrats are for big government. Its going to cost the taxpayers of all classes more. It seems that big government would also hinder free movement between classes. If the government buffers my ability to fail they also ‘buffer’ my ability to achieve.
See you later, in the cheese hand out line.
The comment wasn’t about the naturalization policy or the military but about perceived, potential hypocrisy.
And for millions and millions of Americans crappy health care is better then waht they have now-none. BTW have you seen McCain’s genius plan? The part where 20 million working Americans would lose their plans they get through their employers? Yeah, soooo much better.
I vote Democrat bc I care about others. The economy grows more under Democrats than Republicans so, really, the cheese line would be longer with McCain as pres than Obama. Think on that.
Um, crappy health care would be better than the nothing a lot of people, me included, have right now. As for getting better health care, if you want a better plan, you should have the option to buy a private plan that is better.
Republican: Because Someone Has To Work To Support Welfare.
Sucks don’t it? Hell I am working, this very minute. Still no health care.
Maybe you should consider a career or job change.
Vote Republican: Because only multi-billion dollar corporations deserve welfare
Oh crap, there goes my indignant rage against fiscal hypocisy again.
RAWR!!!!!!!1 (##*&#($#*&$*$*)%*$(&%*(&$%*(&$*($*(%&$*(&%*($!!!
Yeah, those lazy welfare queens like Archer Daniels Midland, AIG, Exxon Mobil, Enron, and Haliburton.
Remember, massive deregulation that leads to massive ponzi schemes don’t cause housing crisises, lazy minorities do.
*whoosh!* You went down the minority road, I didn’t
I know plenty of non-minorities abusing welfare, and I don’t like it, not one little bit! And if I recall correctly (I’m honestly not sure about this one), Halliburton wasn’t a bail out. They got slagged for having government contracts. 
Just… stop. Dont insult people who, like myself are getting most of my paycheck sucked away to pay for someone else who playing a system made to
help people. And DONT do it to make it seem like your “party” are the
good guys. In politics, no one is the good guy, there’s only the guy
who’ll screw things up the least. Unfortunately… I dont know which one
that is this time around.
But point being, just… stop.
Your paycheck is being sucked away to make rich people richer, get your facts straight. A lot more money goes to military spending and sweetheart no bid cost-plus contracts than ever goes to the low income. Where’s your indignation now?
The majority of your paycheck taxes go to failed welfare programs
Lie.
WHAT!!!! Are you high??? The war in Iraq is costing YOU one thousand five hundred dollars a MINUTE. That’s Iraq ONLY. AFDC and HeadStart and WIC and ALL the other entitlement programs in the entire US don’t add up to even a significant FRACTION of our defense budget – which is SEPARATE from the budget for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and what they’re doing to ramp up in Pakistan and Iran. Not even a significant FRACTION. Like, point zero five nine percent. Get your facts staight before you make dumbass bumpersticker talking point claims. Holy CRAP!!
I’m going to have to ask for a citation on that
Oh good God, it’s common sense. Here’s Ben Cohen’s animation about it http://www.truemajority.com/oreos/; this chart here http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm breaks it down more fully but keep in mind “human resources” is *everything having anything to do with people that aren’t in the military,* including the non-military payroll of the government itself.
Most of your paycheck? In taxes? Like most whiny bitches who
complain about welfare, while voting to spend more money on
corporate welfare and warfare than any liberal has EVER spent on
anything, you are a liar.
And an idiot.
in bed
( I couldn’t resist)
I’m flattered.
In bed.
I get that a lot.
In bed
Which would be an option under the Obama plan, according to his website. (name)
McCain’s plan seems to involve changing the way the insurance companies work, by lowering premiums and co-pays and making the companies accept people with pre-existing conditions and others who are ‘unisurable.’ It also allows you to choose the company that you want, but from what I understand from his website you still have to be able to afford health care in the first place.
My paycheck is about 50% smaller once the government and insurance companies get done with it.
I had an episode of sciatica (nerve compression due to a crappy office chair) my insurance is disputing the claim alternately as prior existing condition or worker’s comp. I pay for insurance coverage that I don’t get, I don’t see what the difference would be if you add a chunk in taxes, take the chunk off for insurance and let everyone get healthcare.
The English pay more in taxes but once you take off what we spend in insurance premiums it actually is cheaper for them.
SO – I pay some more taxes and save money in the end.
YOU pay more taxes and get insurance you didn’t have before
THEY get coverage that was never available to them before (they being the poor and disenfranchised and children of same)
In the end the only ones paying more would be the ones that are working without healthcare (but probably want it) and the very very rare few who’s companies still pay for the insurance premiums.
Companies would pay more in taxes to cover the majority of the burden but I am sure it is nothing like what they pay now for worker’s comp and insurance premiums. I currently pay $36 every 2 weeks for coverage (single). My company picks up 80% of the premium (so $36=20%). Family plans cost $127 every 2 weeks with the company still paying 80%. Insurance is one of the largest expenses many companies have, Worker’s Comp insurance is another. Pull those off the balance sheets and you could probably double taxes in most cases without companies seeing a difference in total expenses.
I still have my fiancee’s insurance trying to dodge amounts they owe for what should be claimed.
Shit, I wasn’t allowed to add my daughter’s medical bills to my insurance because her congenital aberration was “preexisting” when they transferred hospitals.
After we mangle some CEOs can we swing by some insurance companies?
Rich Canadians travel to the U.S. because the U.S. gives it’s all for rich people. I don’t think normal Canadians can afford American health care. So, yeah, go to socialized medicine and our rich folks might have to sacrifice a little so that everyone can get care. Boo hoo.
I think the stereotype of British people having crappy teeth comes from Austin Powers and is based on 60’s British movie stars who grew up during and before WWII when the British didn’t have socialized medicine.
I know a few people who live in countries with socialized medicine. None of them has ever expressed a desire to go back to private pay.
British teeth are not the fault of socialized medicine. British people just have bad teeth because that’s the way their gene pool is. Also, their dentists don’t really care all that much. Dentistry is just a much more developed science in the US.
TRUTH!
I had to replace a retainer in London … it was twice the size of my American made one (they kept my broken one because they were so impressed by it) and the damn thing hurt like hell to wear. I had to get another made when I came home for Easter.
Liberals, not necessarily Democrats, are for big government because that is the basic nature of liberalism. Kind of like, why do dogs bark? That’s what dogs do.
I’m a liberal and I’m not for “big government;” I’m just for not taking all the cash from the middle class to give it to incredibly insanely rich people who take it and put it in tax-free offshore bank accounts. And insanely rich people who make guns and bombs and other things that kill innocent women and children.
Surgeries are something that often require a specialist that may not be in the same country that you are. Also if you are going to use that argument, explain the thousands of Americans that go to India and Mexico for surgeries. Explain the senior citizen center around the corner from me who sends someone across the Ambassador bridge weekly to get cheaper drugs. Canadians coming here for surgery, a specialty procedure, is a shaky argument at best.
McCain’s eligibility for President has bipartisan support.
What Democrats support him?
I’m curious as I haven’t heard any names.
Not support for him actually being president, but support of his eligibility to run.
Or imagine if Obama was a clueless Communist who boasts about giving out free money to the proletariat, with a pastor who claims America deserved the 9/11 attacks and has said publicly “I hate America”, and had a wife who stated that she had never been proud of her country until her husband was selected to run for President! Good God, surely the nation wouldn’t be insane enough even to let him run in that case!
All McCain has got is his whole “stuck in Vietnam while serving his country with his life” thing. Good thing us Democrats have a real candidate who knows sacrifice! CHANGE!
Oh my, giving money to the proles is BAD. In America, we only give money to the people who have proven they deserve it and can handle it: the rich. Which is exactly what YOUR party is proposing as a solution to our financial problems. Funny thing, that. “Give more money to the rich” seems to be your answer to everything.
Giving money to the poor rewards people for being poor and keeps them weak and helpless. But, that’s what we want, right? We would never want to encourage the successful and the enterprising, would we?
‘Cause, y’know, being poor is *fun* and all that. Living paycheck to paycheck, working crappy minimum wage jobs? TOTAL breeze, laugh a minute.
Do you really not understand how difficult it can be to get out of poverty when you have no training, no knowledge of where to go next, no connections that can train you in how to be successful? Oddly enough, the ability to be “successful and enterprising” is not an inborn characteristic of the human race . . . it’s a consequence of having people around you train you how to succeed in the society you’re in. A LARGE number of people have no one to show them how to do that.
Amen *applause*
They know, they just don’t care.
It also takes trying. I did not make it to being a presidential candidate by sitting on my ass, like so many of my generation do. They are training people in the next generation to be lazy. There have steadily been more lazy-depend-on-the-government types in every generation since welfare started. I worked hard and rose above the mean.
Which is the best reason I can think of you elect you president, sir.
“the ability to be “successful and enterprising” is not an inborn characteristic of the human race ” – that is true, that’s why we should be glad and support the ones that are successful and enterprising because they are creating jobs and distributing wealth to those that aren’t. Works much better than having some government beaurocrat hand over money for doing nothing. Why do you think there are so many illegal Mexican immigrants coming into the country? Because the Mexican government does not have social programs! Because they are getting jobs here! Jobs poor Americans wont take because they are getting handouts from the US government.
“Jobs poor Americans wont take because they are getting handouts from the US government.”
Or, rather, because they won’t take the pay that illegal immigrants will take, because they have to build a real life off it here, in the US, which is very different from squishing yourself into extremely crappy temporary housing and sending half your paycheck home to Mexico or a South American country where the American dollar goes VERY far. Tell me, have you ever heard the term “living wage”? And are you aware of how far even the new minimum wage is from being an actual living wage?
If they are sending half their income, and sometimes more, than they are making enough to live on here. They just aren’t as picky, they are interested in raising their families and not concentrating on what they don’t have. They know what it’s like elsewhere and appreciate what they can acheive in this country. A Living wage is a completely relative notion.
Good thing a candidate like that only exists within the Republican Echo Chamber, eh?
Im sorry but unless you signed up to be a PoW, its not called sacrfice. Thats called hardship, personal tragedy, or just plain wrong. At no point in time did he have an option of what was happening to him. Im not belittling the man for what happened to him, but calling what happened to him a sacrifice is a slap in the face to him and any other PoW. Shame on you, sir.
Shame on you for not knowing the story. John McCain was told he could go home early because of who his father was. He declined to leave early and let several other POWs go home before he did. How is that not a sacrifice? How is that not noble? Shame on you for belittling a SACRIFICE of freedom for his fellow POWs sake! “Greater love…” and all that rot.
*shakes head*
Sigh.
Then there’s that guy who went to Vietnam, talks about it endlessly, came back and married a rich heiress, ran for president…. But enough about John Kerry !
At least John McCain has a modocum of personality. Lurch has none
You’d think after the egg trying to elect a Munster to the White House laid for the Dems, the GOP would have paused in trying to elect Uncle Fester…
I know who I’d cast as Morticia!!! What about Cousin Itt and Thing?
The major difference is that the “Liberal” Media (*dun*dun*dun*) were allowed to question Kerry’s war record, even after proving himself out several times, whereas with McCain, if you so much as imply that there were -any- irregularities with his service record, even before his POW stint, you’re driven out of town on a rail.
Funny how that “Liberal” Media works, eh?
My chickens are coming home to roost.
Didn’t I tell you that already?
Also called hypocrisy since he has not done ONE DAMN thing for veterans, POW’s or MIA’s since he got out.
or imagine if Obama’s Daughter was a little older, was pregnant, and had a boyfriend that boasted instead of being a “redneck” about being a “gangsta” who likes to “shoot some s**t” and he’d f**k you up if you messed with him.
Dear God…Just imagine how’d they treat that…
No, Obama’s daughter wouldn’t be “punished with having a baby” in his words.
Obama has two daughters.
Unlike Palin’s daughter, Obama’s children are not being smeared in the media.
That’s because conservatives have class and decency. Liberals only have hatred.
What are you going to smear two elementary school girls with? Their macaroni collage looked like pasta salad instead of the Starry Night?
I’m not going to smear them with anything.
That’s because I’m not a hate-filled liberal, and I don’t smear the children of candidates.
Translation: I got nothin.
No, it’s because THEY AREN’T PREGNANT.
Honestly, why is everything, “Liberals do this!” and “Liberals do that!” with you?
Is it even remotely possible, in your world, that people act independently of their political party!?
How do you know they are not pregnant ? Can you site sources ? Hmmmmm!
It is almost certain that the younger daughter cannot be yet, and more likely than not that the older daughter cannot be yet either.
Can you cite sources that show that they are?
Well, when Chelsea was making regular visits to the counseling center at Standford University after her boyfriend broke up with her, there were no pundits talking about how Billary’s outlooks on life created an unstable child. Nope, off limits. And rightly so. Republicans do not, liberals do whatever they want.
Or maybe it’s just that “Billary” isn’t trying to get her “outlooks on life” to be taught in schools claiming they work…
As has been stated NUMEROUS times before, nobody is going, “O LOL PREGNUNT TEEN!”, it’s more like, “Oh look, her mama’s abstinence only sex education worked REALLY WELL for her……NAWWWTTT.”
I believe the phrase ‘apples and oranges’ applies here.
Feel free to cite where Hillary and Bill were trying to state their way of raising children as the best and to be done with everybody else’s children. Then you will have a leg to stand on.
Four words: It Takes A Village
Luv you hunny!
You mean like Fester calling Nyarlathotep ‘uppity’ as in Uppity N*gger? That sort of class?
Or perhaps the class of people praying for a McCain win with a rider wish of a speedy death, then editing it when called on it and coding it down to ‘imprecatorty prayer’? That sort of class.
You’re joking… right? Shall I begin to list just a few of the things the Clintons have been called by Conservatives, *since* he left office? How about a couple of the different names Nancy Pelosi has been called oh… this week? Wow, I really can’t believe you made that claim without your head exploding from the hypocrisy.
Or it is because they are like 10 years old … moron
Bullseye! Great LOL and right on target.
Yes, it perfectly demonstrates the sheer nastiness of liberals, who are happy to attack a candidate’s children with public smears.
Seriously, how much do you get paid to do this? Do you get paid by the post, or is it a flat salary? How does your boss check and see that you are doing a good job?
I send him free bumper stickers and shlt.
Could be Saturday Night Live, making a skit claiming that Pailin’s husband had incest with his daughter to produce Trig. Real class, those Liberals !
Wooooow. The things your brain produces.
SNL actually did that. Can’t blame Bob’s brain for it.
Bob’s brain is surely to blame for something.
Giant advances in Quantum theory….
Care to discuss the rape % and incest % in Alaska? I am sure they are quite illuminating.
The moose are too ashamed to admit it so the data’s skewed.
So it is even higher that I suspected. I am shocked…
You send McCain shit? that’s just cool!
Go McC!!!!
(do they come with a cert of authenticity? I’d hate people on E-bay to think I was shilling them!)
EP, I offer you twice as many stickers, and I’ll throw in some yard signs.
You don’t want him on your side, Mr. O.
If so, the boss must be sorely disappointed. Repeating yourself over and over to try and make people believe that what you’re saying someone said is really what that someone said only works on the stupid.
If only there weren’t so many stupid people who *do* believe that sort of thing.
I believe that repeating oneself over and over again until the lie is believed is the Republican’s proven strategy for getting themselves elected. How can you argue with success?
Where does Voldemort stand on health care and the economy?
Also with success – which means NOT with the kind of Republicans currently in charge, of which McCain is just one more. In favor of something that works, and against corporate welfare. The economy needed correcting, and now that’s happening. It’s sad, it happens, and burdening our grandchildren with trying to stop it (and on the track record of the current administration, probably failing) by shoring up failing corporations and individuals who should have known better is neither fiscally conservative nor particularly ethical.
Oh, I was hoping for a response about muggles and lightning bolts…
Oh get the hell off your high horse. Go tune in Limbaugh or Neal Boortz and hear what they’re calling Obama and his wife right this minute.
No…its ok because they are getting married.
Which is why they probably got forced into it, no?
So I can screw as many girls out of wedlock as I want to, and I only have to marry them if I get them pregnant? Awesome!
Bigamy is still a crime in this country
Key term was Out of Wedlock, hun. He isn’t marrying them. And technically Bigamy is marrying two. The word you want is Polygamy.
I’m assuming that Seth’s boys can swim, and with his vigorous thrusting he will impregnate at least two women whom he will then have to marry. And you’re right, I was limiting myself with the bigamy. Polygamy sounds more fun, hehe.
I’m into polyamory myself. All the fun of dating with all the security and understanding of marriage. Or, all the terror of dating with all the annoyances and dull routine of marriage. I guess it depends on how you do it.
LOL, nice. I think it is both actually.
I suspect your “dates” look suspiciously like your hand..
You do have a point if the girls are all fertile enough and don’t kill him when they find out he is playing them. I am way too possessive for polygamy to work for me though. My fiancee’ and our girlfriend will do just fine though I might torture a couple people on the side but that isn’t proper conversation here.
>_>
<_<
In this case, what’s Monogamy? I stick to it but please tell me I did not do anything wrong!
Might be a good question considering society nowadays and adultery.
It’s a kind of wood.
Only after a two week dry spell. Or Viagra.
only yours is a twig
Ok, going for penis humour. Is that really all you’ve got?. Monogamy, sounds kind of like Mahogony, which is a kind of wood. I was making a joke.
Just noticing you tend to call women you dissagree with “hun” an awful lot for someone who espouses women’s rights as much as you do it doesn’t seem to mesh. He did say “marry them” and bigamy is marrying more than one person at a time.
No, he calls people “hun” if he’s debated with them in the past and has some degree of familiarity and affection for them. If hun is a slam against women then my waitress at Applebees last night must be sexist. Honestly, don’t jump to conclusions.
And he calls them ‘hun’ if they’ve recently crossed the Alps on an elephant.
I lol’d thank you.
You’re confusing Attila with Hannibal, hun.
I still lol’d dammit…
It’s okay; so did I. Doesn’t have to be fully true to be funny.
*blush* Sorry!
You’re too awesome not to forgive, love.
Thanks for having my back, love. XD
Actually I use hun, dear, etc, if I happen to like the woman as a person. I find it works much better than Hey Bitch as Hey Bitch tends to give the wrong message of affection and familarity that I am going for. I have done my own person studies, in a lab coat with a rectal thermometer in my pocket, with various subjects. Invariably, they get bent out of shape if I refer to them as Hey Bitch. Unless they like it like that but those are other studies I performed without the lab coat. So don’t worry, I did the research and found that women have a lot more to be mad about than me using terms of endearment. I call my fiancee’ and a BDSM mistress we are friends with Hun as well, even when we are agreeing just fine. You don’t know me, don’t pretend to see a pattern as I know very strong women and they have the thick skin to not let a little platonic affection burn their flesh. Also, I tend to have the same level of thick skin when being called dear, hun, sugar, etc by the women I know when we are talking.
As for rest of your post, yes I have already be corrected thank you. I will blame lack of caffeine or a momentary lapse in critical reading skills. I’m sorry, can we move on or do you wish to pursue the passive aggressive angle of calling me a sexist prick?
*sigh* Looks like PK ate my post so we will have to wait for it to pop up.
Er, isn’t screwing around with as many girls as you want fairly common for people nowadays?
If you do marry the one you knock up, you’re a hell of a lot better person than most people.
If she was black, they probabaly would not be getting married and he would just be the “Baby’s Daddy”. If they were Hispanic, they damn well would be getting married or he’d lose his cajones.
And you’re the dipshit who was reffering to an obama commercial as our ‘minute of hate’? What the fuck is wrong with you. You have got to be the slimiest individual on pundit kitchen, based on that comment. You are a racist, you are a hypocrite, and you are a republican stooge. Please for the love of all things good and decent in the universe, stop posting your bigotry on this board. Nobody wants to see it. Nobody benefits from it. And it only serves to reinforce the meaning of the caption on the above picture.
No, really, tell me what you really think, you hate filled bag of pus?
Don’t hold back !
Typical hippocrit !
And what have I said that is hypocritical? Apparently neither of those college degrees help any with your spelling.
He’s mad cuz his penis is small. Happy Heathen!
You remind me a lot of MegaBob. I’d say that probably isn’t a good thing.
Hey hey here!
It’s okay Bob. I still think you are Lulzy. EP is my bane.
(blushes)
OB1, Friendly advice for you. You are way out of your league here. Move on to a pokemon forum so you can be with others of your maturity level.
For the love of all unholy, don’t feed the troll.
People reply to Evil Pudit all the time… it’s way too late
I thought sex BEFORE marriage was wrong? They’ve obviously being screwing beforehand…
It is, but that’s where free will comes in. We are all human, after all, and tend to do whatever the hell we want without thinking 5 minutes ahead to see what the consequences will be
Ya, pretty much everybody I know didn’t wait which I always thought was a tad outdated anyway. I understand waiting for the right one but I would like to know what the sex will be like before I commit to sexing that one person and whomever we jointly agree to bring in.
Besides, why wait to learn what they like? Make the Honeymoon epic with Knowledge!!!
And handcuffs.
What did I tell you about being a brat to me at work, girl? I am supposed to be keeping my calm at work. I don’t want to put any eyes out.
You must be a Republican at heart, then. Or at least a Republican at some other body part!
I am a Moderate, ma’am. I like bits from both. Broader selection. I was actually a tad impressed that McCain suspended his campaign to work on the economy and invited Obama to help. Then again, the cynic thinks both will use it as a ploy but I can always dream that McCain is being noble and Obama will be wise enough to go with it.
I’m waiting for the “I offered a debate and he turned it down!” arguments to start after it becomes mainstream knowledge that McCain has asked to put off the debates until after this crisis is over. *sigh*
And I will be defending him at that point. Unless he makes it all a political stunt, then I will just be mad. However, his actions today seem very honorable and he has my best wishes. I am hoping Obama decides to have the wisdom to set aside the differences and get this problem solved. If he lashes out at it, it will definitely screw him over.
It’s a stunt. McCain said that it’s important that he deal with things that particular Friday night, raincheck the debates to next Thursday, and just set the VP debates on indefinite hold.
Something’s fishy with that scenario.
Suppose so. I am going to try and soak up another day of news before taking a definite stance since both candidates are starting to get on my nerves lately.
Health problems?
I won’t go into those. I just get frustrated when I list my issues.
Y’know, McCain made a big deal earlier this year about how he really didn’t understand the economy. Can anyone explain to me how *him* going back to Washington is going to help get anything done?
Hahaha, you amuse me! I agree, ya ought to know what we are getting into before tying the noose! Not to mention being educated about how to only get pregnant when you want to.
Ya, my fiancee’ and I were very lucky as horny teenagers. We weren’t being that cautious and had a couple scares but… They sobered us up and she got on birth control post haste cuz we both hate condoms. Now we have two beautiful sons because we chose to have them. She wants a girl in the future but I am trying to negotiate her out of that. Two is enough for me. X_X
And I don’t want to feel the urge to buy a shotgun.
Shotgun wedding si just a figure of speech Nexus. You can use a battle axe if you prefer.
I do own a scimitar. *cue insipant Muslim comment*
I keep it by the bed in case me coming down the stairs naked with it isn’t enough to scare off intruders. I should get a battle axe though, never had one before.
GAH!!! Blasted spelling. *Insipid*
Or a flail. I saw some for sale at Pennsic with giant 20 sided dice on each chain instead of spiked balls.
O_O
WANT!!!
Wanna take bets that Jr gets flushed the minute it looks like
Obama gets the election. I’ve seen oil and water mix and
Combine better than these two.
I think its a little late for chunky to get an abortion.
Unless she “tragically” has a *cough* miscarriage….
Come on now. Calling her chunky is no less uncool than picking on Chelsea fifteen years ago was.
Picking on Chelsea was uncool?
Yes.
I mean, it’s not not uncool.
Guess I am a jerk then. Oh wait, I didn’t care so I didn’t do it. Woot, I’m safe. Luckily, I have other ways to be a jerk.
I met ol Chelsea a few months ago and, sorry, DAMN that girl is ugly ! Momma’s gonna be lucky if she can marry her off. When I asked her who was the short man with her, she got mad and said “THATS my MOTHER!”.
Double damn- I really thought Hillary was a man as she was wearing a suit.
Several people with me thought the same thing.
Classy.
He does make a good point. (MegaBob, that is)
Yes, that the most important thing about a women is how attractive she is.
Eleanor Roosevelt would give you a high five.
In a Yo Mama sort of way. Maybe.
What can I say- it’s the truth. I guess they all wear a lot of makeup for television ( ALL the politicians)
I paid $5000 for mine.
Hillary must pay more- much more
Wow: the obsession with and objectification of beauty as it relates to political function. This isn’t exactly supporting the attack that Liberals/Dems are the sexist ones here.
Just, y’know, a heads up.
@herb – Pretty much. I think the instant feminist period has passed just as quickly as it appeared.
I find it depressingly amusing that the repubs jumped down the throats of those mentioning the Palin was really nothing more than a token vagina for being sexist, then pull stunts like this on a routine basis.
PC or not, I still lol’d.
And besides, it’s *so* untrue. I think she looks deliciously curvy. Or at least, she would if she wasn’t under 18
Over here in the decadent old world, she’s been legal for two years…
So we can leave tongue marks on the monitor, and not feel seedy and disgusting….
Having said that, if she’d fuck a no-neck redneck thug, I think I’d walk away.
I tend not to find short bus type specialness ‘arousing’
Ecomonic status fail!
Racism died in the 70’s, and if black people keep bringing it up like this, it stays alive. What a lame lol.
Ummm, I am a white guy and I know better than that. A significant number of the minority community keep reminding us of it but it definitely still exists on its own.
Awareness of the world around you, FAIL! People refusing to admit that they have any racial biases is part of the reasont they still exist and are causing problems. It’s like the Avenue Q song says “Everyone’s a little bit racist”.
Furthermore, How can anyone say racism doesn’t exist when looking at the lower life-expectancy, education, and income levels of so many people of color? That’s not saying the majority of Americans hate people based on race, it’s just indicative that there are some serious issues going on.
So you’re saying only Whites can be racist ?
How naive of you.
What we term racism is generally a function of power differentials, friend. When a group that has the power to limit the activities and choices of another group or denigrate that group based on that second group’s supposed racial characteristics, we have racism. It is very hard to be “racist” against Caucasians in general, though it is possible to be racist against Caucasian subgroups, i.e., Italians, Germans, Irish, etc.
You are talking about the result of racism, not actual racism which is a human condition and affects all races. When one group has power over another it will use racist assumptions to justify bad treatment. Bad treatment as a result of racism is something we can fight against and have done so with great results so far.
Reading comprehension FAIL, bobby. I never said only whites can be racist, racial bias is something all people are equally capable of, and as I jokingly referred to with the Avenue Q reference, *no one* is free from racial preconceptions or biases, but it’s as thinker says, racism is related to power dynamics.
Considering a line from that song goes “Bigotry has never been exclusively white” I’d say no. He isn’t saying that at all.
Ass.
Wow, what world do you live in? Racism is alive and well today and it has nothing to do with “black people keep bringing it up”.
I disagree with this.
Yes, racism is alive and well today. Also, it gives people like Jesse Jackson a job – they’d be unemployed, otherwise. The situation now is much better than it probably has ever been, or, at least, it would be, if not for the kind of Jesse Jackson’s…
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/democratic_racism/2008/02/25/75308.html
How racist was your comment? Who’s to say the guy who captioned this lol is black? Did he say so himself? For all we know, it was a white guy who captioned it.
Ignorance is not bliss.
“Racism died in the 70s…”
On what planet?
Actually that post fell through a time vortex; the poster lives in the year 5590 and is reminiscing about the good ol’ days of the 5570s.
If racism died in the 70’s, what’s this:
“If there were no racial prejudice among voters, Sen. Barack Obama would receive about 6 percentage points more support, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll, designed in partnership with Stanford University.”
Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/22/race.politics/?iref=mpstoryview
That result is based on Democrat voters. We all know the Democrats are the party of racism.
I know! Like that Klansman David Duke!…
No, wait–
The name you’re looking for is Senator Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia). A Kleagle of the Klan, he is still in Washington as a Democrat.
you’re living in the 1800’s aren’t you?
The Dems, they sure don’t like women. They trash Hillary as hard as Pailin.
They’re one step away from being Muslim…
I get it: you’re pretending to be Obama-as-a-Muslim. I’m not laughing. Not because I can’t handle trashing Barack, but because your ignorant slurs of Islam I find to be of the lowest caliber (which is lower than Sean Hannity’s punditry being called “journalism”).
As often as I try to turn the other cheek, there comes a time when I feel the need to point out that you, sir, are being an ass.
I’m embarrassed for him.
Trust, if McCain and Palin don’t win the election, these two aren’t getting married. They both already look like they’re in prison.
However, if they want to create some publicity, Shove these two morons down the aisle with a shotgun a the day before the election.
Yeah, I worry for pure Bristol Palin.
er poor. (not so pure anymore I guess.
)
best typo ever.
I worry for her too. Pregnancy is stressful enough as is – all of this on top of it can’t end well.
I don’t think any of us have met either of them and we’re judging them now based on a photo submitted to a site devoted to adding funny captions to photos. I don’t believe any of us actually know how they are going to do in the future.
don’t they look so happy??
Well, aren’t there two major problems with having a kid when too young:
1. You’re too immature to be a parent
2. You’re too poor to be a parent
Well, Governor Grandma seems okay with helping out the new baby enough that her own kid can learn as she goes. She’s also wealthy enough to help out the new baby.
It’d be one thing if Palin said, “Screw you, kid. You’re having that child and I’m not helping you.” But it’s very different when she says, “Well, we’ll work this out together.”
Bravo…. Somebody making some sense.
Life happens. It just happened to happen to them. I think he’s doing real well by marrying her, and her mom is doing real well by being supportive.
Why does he have to marry her to do “real well”? Why can he be a supportive father and not marry. There is nothing wrong with being an unwed mother, as you are implying.
And why wouldn’t her mother be supportive. B. Palin chose the choice her mother supports. Who knows how supportive S. Palin would have been if B. Palin had taken a trip to the local Planned Parenthood. Even if was just for BC.
No the problem is it’s a publicity marriage, to shore up the fact that Palin’s obsessive devotion to abstinence-only sex education doesn’t even work in her own family, let alone in a community or the country. The pregnancy is egg on her face, so the marriage is pretty clearly arranged. Forcing your kid into marriage to save your public image doesn’t sound too supportive to me. It’s still, “Screw you kid. You’re having that child.”
as a matter of fact, it’s “screw you kid. you’re having that child, and you’re marrying the daddy. I dont care what you want!”
Ya know, as long as I don’t have to pay for it, they can make as many babies as they want. If they plan to make babies on welfare, then they can go to hell (figuratively speaking; alas, I lack the necessary supreme powah to assign eternal fate of others). Them paying for it = fine, everyone else paying them to do it = not fine.
True say.
Lame Lolz. Not funny. Kids bad decision should not be a deciding factor in your choice for President.
Oh, it’s not. There are so many other reasons why I’m not voting for McCain/Palin.
It’s not about the kid, it’s about her mother. Or more specific, it’s about the irony that something Palin likes o so much fails with her own daughter. We feal sorry for the daughter, it’s Sarah who’s actually getting attacked.
Everyone that is against this future marriage is close-minded. I know of tons of people who make their marriage work despite being married because of unplanned pregnancies. Would it be better if the guy ran off? Would it be better if they didn’t even try to make things right? Sorry I guess I’m a little old fashioned. Yes mistakes were made but what could possibly be better than marriage. Is it so hard to believe that the guy is trying to step up and do the right thing and not being forced into it? Oh and you are racist if you think that the crap that they are receiving would be worse if they were black, because you guys are sure layering it up thick.
I would think we are more cynical than closed minded. We hope it works but won’t be surprised if it bombs. Call it observational experience.
Why is marrying considered “making things right”? I think that is more closed-minded than thinking, hey maybe this girl should think about her life choices.
Saying you know people who make their marriages work despite being married because of unplanned pregnancies is a moot point. There are so many people who are unhappy with their marriage who “stay together for the kids,” which is unhealthy for everyone involved. I could also say I know plenty of people who had crap marriages and had a kid because they thought it would bring them together, and that also didn’t work.
No one is suggesting that the father should run off. They are suggesting that the girl already has made one life altering decision, maybe she should think a little bit more about the next one instead of assuming that is the next logical step.
And what could be better than marriage? How about they make a decision that would make them both happy, not their parents happy. He doesn’t have to be married to Bristol to be a father, he can be supportive and available as a dad without marriage. Or is that too new fashioned?
Choices!!!? In the land of opportunity and freedom?!
YOU SPEAK BLASPHEMY WOMAN!!! Back to the yurt and made me dinner and other feminine duties…
Disclaimer: Don’t sue me, I’m funny.
Damn. From all the time I spent posting here, I burnt the pot roast dear. Silly me, being a woman and all. I’ll go stay in the kitchen from now on.
Don’t forget the knee pads and chapstick when I come home. It’s been a long day.
Disclaimer: You rock btw.
Right. Thanks for reminding me. It’s almost the new moon and that lunacy was about to kick in.
Thanks. A good chuckle never hurt anyone.
Oh and I needed that chuckle today. I will ready the tranq gun for the new moon. And the ball gag… And clean the soundproof room.
Anyway before I make it too weird, I’ll shut up now.
wow…yet another below the belt swipe at Sarah Palin’s family…how shockingly predictable…
Vicious personal smears against candidates’ families are all the Dems have.
I like the happy personal smears. They’re less like pap smears and more like jam on toast.
We’d be up to our armpits in racist, sexist garbage if Obama’s girls were teenagers, and you know it.
We’re up to our arms in racist, sexist garbage already. And it’s all coming from the Democratic Party.
Do you just have that line as a macro or something. As much as I see you spout that garbage, I figure you must have a hotkey for it.
aren’t the conservatives or cons also bent on relating Obama with terrorists or calling his relatives also terrorists?
Well, i’ll try not to make TOO many friends here…
I don’t recall there ever being a Caucasion history month, and last I knew when you bury the “N” word, it draws attention to your race. I don’t see caucasion people burying the “C” word.
Also, if colored Americans have a lower life expectancy, lower education levels, and lower income, chances are that reflects they are not doing much about it. I know a lot of people who come from NOTHING, and don’t get educational benefits because of their skin color, and still manage. If it were between a colored student and caucasion student applying for college they would choose the colored student because we have to walk on egg shells so they don’t play the race card. And honestly, a lot of you said “white” instead of “caucasion”. Should I be offended? I mean, if I say black, that’s racist right?
“Colored”? *sigh*
I should really walk away from this, right? Tell me why I should walk away from this?
Walk away from this.
Because someone obviously has never called a black person colored to their face?
Obviously because… they still have a face.
Every time I hear something silly like this it brings to mind an episode of “The Office” where Michael Scott, the most irritatingly stupid boss ever, mentions ‘colored greens.’ Stanley corrects him that it’s actually ‘collard greens,’ and Michael’s response is “Well that’s just silly. You dont’ call them ‘collard people’.”
Long live ‘toopidity!
I was turned down for a promotion because they were ” only promoting black people” and the dumbass told me that to my face. My lawyer straightened him out.
And by “Black” they meant “Competent”
Competent a playing the victim maybe.
Bitter much?
I have yet to honestly say that I was discriminated against for being white. I know that I have mentioned it a couple times but out of all honesty, it was me being bitter when there is nobody to blame but myself.
Stop blaming your skin for your problems and you can better tackle them.
I, too, should walk away, and will, after pointing out that there are 11 White History Months a year.
You are sooo ignorant its not funny, there is no white history month, every month is designated for something. Women, Asian/Pacific, African American… So yea we have all heard that line, but if you had half a brain you wouldnt use it.
Trying to deny that the history taught in schools isn’t Anglo-centric is a joke.
I have a screaming baby to deal with, otherwise I’d spell things out in small words for you just how fucking ignorant you and/or your statements are.
Such language in front of the baby ! OoO !
I was going to sum things up with a simple “She’s two months old; she can’t read yet” quip, but for the point we’re not planning on treating vulgarities as forbidden fruit, but instead as what they are: coarse language used by the common people, and typically unbefitting a lady like her, except in extreme circumstances where such language is permissible.
But then I thought, why the hell do I need to explain myself to people on PK?
It’s cool. I understand. My four month old boy will probably say many things that he shouldn’t and most of it my fault.
Yes, I’m sure the infant can read the tiny text on this computer screen.
That’s why they have tiny eyes, the crafty little buggers !
Almost useless fact. A baby’s eyes are actually the same size as an adult. Your eyes do not get any bigger as you get older.
You will soon learn what is taught in schools since you are going to learn second hand. Until then, stop being a racist ass. (ooo i can curse to) I hope your baby isnt too inbred to live a good life.
Okay, I’ll try to explain this in small words:
For the better part of the first hundred-fifty years, only white men were in power, which meant they got to dictate what version of history would be told. Over the last ninety years, other groups have wedged themselves into the limelight enough to warrent special times throughout the year when White History has to acknowledge what is still not commonly taught in schools.
1) What was the first major peace accord in North America?
(a) The Constitution
(b) the Federalist Papers
(c) the Mayflower Compact
(d) The Iroquois League of Nations
2) Who participated in the above accord?
3) Where was the above drafted?
4) Who was the first non-Native to spot the New World?
5) Who was the first European to spot the New World?
6) When did the Slave Trade begin?
You should stop know, you try to sound smart but you arent. Better part of the first 150 years? wtf is that? what 150 years? sorry you are racist, but there are parts of the nation that the “black man hasn’t let the gov. keep them down” sorry that you still want to complain. For me i will take the one day a year where i can be proud to be white. But if that offends you, then you really are a racist.
Quiet down whitey!
Waaaaaaaaaaaahmbulance.
Shut up, you ignorant Cracker.
Without looking it up, and without an education in American history, I’ll give it my best shot.
1) (c)
2) Wouldn’t have a clue
3) Somewhere in an Eastern coast colony
4) I could go for the cheap answer and say ancestors of the natives, because they weren’t native before they arrived. But I think I’ll guess someone from China.
5) Leif Ericson
6) Ancient times.
Because, you know, teaching an American history that champions manifest destiny and westward expansion *completely* ignores the accomplishments of “whites.”
Black is actually the correct term. Not all black people are from Africa.
btw, it’s caucasian
Colored=racist, black=not
someone needs a little bit of diversity in their life… and a reality check.
I consider myself ” European-American”. Try putting that on the next form you have to fill out- it drives them crazy !
Wow man, that’s a bigger load of narrowminded Cracker bullcrap than I’ve heard in 25 years or more. And I grew up in Orlando in the 60s!!
“white” history months! racist! i’m offended! i’m discriminated against!
It’s easy to discriminate against the ‘toopid. They don’t know what’s really going on.
*sigh*
I’m doing my best to walk away, I really am, but some people just need a good slapping.
Stupid people can’t help it. It’s the willfully ignorant that you need to hit with your car.
Don’t slap stupid people—Sh*t splatters !
Does Wayne Brady need to slap a bltch?
LOL dictionary should define conservative as someone who believes that nothing should ever be done for the first time.
You really need to cut down on the drug usage- you’d make much more sense.
…it DOES help to be wealthy when you’re a teenager having a child.
Apologize if this copies anyone else’s comments…don’t have time to read all 100+
Eek, I can’t believe this got on the front page. Anyway, my point was if any one else in the world were in their position(knocked up, unmarried), they would be shunned/stereotyped/disrespected, etc…
All of a sudden I see that Spears kid and now these two, in the spot light and the powerful people around them turn it a positive thing to support their own agendas. (politics/britney/etc…)
Personally, I think every pregnancy should be accepted by society. I don’t care what anyone does with their bodies or when any one gets knocked up. I just find these double-standards disgusting.
They are being shunned/stereotyped/disrespected.
By you, and the other liberals.
I really hate to be the next Chris Crocker (only instead I would be going “LEAVE BRISTOL ALONE!”), but I really think the kids need to be left out of the politics. Being 17 and pregnant sucks. The only thing worse is having that news plastered all over the country. This is going to put a lot of pressure on her and her finance. Teen marriages already have a pretty low chance of making it.
What I don’t get, is that many lower class girls often get shunned and called nasty names when they have an unwed teen pregnancy. But oh, an upper class girl has an unwed teen pregnancy, and suddely she is a role model because she didn’t get an abortion. Well, you know what? Tons of girls do not get abortions all the time. And not all of them are as well off as Bristol. A rich, upper class unwed teenager in the public eye who gets pregnant always gets so much praise (take a look at Jamie Lynn Spears). I say that praise should be going to the lower class girls who actually have to work hard when they keep their kid. Many of those girls may not have families with a lot of money to help them, and many aren’t getting support from the father of their kid, let alone marrying him.
The Spears girl was not praised at all. Her parents were called pinheads. She was constantly questioned of her choices. In fact, Grandma Spears is in Newsweek talking about the extreme differences between the treatment of her daughter and B. Palin. Check it out:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/159894
The Spears girl was not praised at all. Her parents were called pinheads. She was constantly questioned of her choices. In fact, Grandma Spears is in Newsweek talking about the extreme differences between the treatment of her daughter and B. Palin. Check it out in the name.
I agree that the treatment (for the most part) of Jamie-Lynn Spears and her family was pretty rough, but you have to wonder if that doesn’t stem from the fact that her family is turbulent at best and a complete train wreck at worst. Bristol is the only one (so far) of the Palin kids who has gone off the reservation, and she didn’t stray that far (granted, she’s the oldest, but let’s table that for a moment
). Unplanned pregnancy is only one of the myriad things she could have gotten herself into. At least she does have the love and support of a strong family, not a mother who is actively pimping her out for the shock factor. Trotting out the family for a photo-op is a bit different than writing a book about how good a parent you are and then trying to pit the magazines against each other to squeeze as much milage and money as you can out of pictures of your out-of-wedlock grandaughter.
Bristol also is 17 and drinking. Pregnancy is not the only thing she has gotten herself into.
I don’t know who else in the Spears family is a “train wreck” besides Britney. Their father and mother have always been supportive of their kids and what they want to do. Their daughters wanted to get into show business, and look where they are. Their son didn’t and they fully supported his decision to do that as well. I’d say helping your kid realize their dream is really supportive. Also, babysitting your granddaughter so your daughter has some time off is also rather supportive of the Spears matriarch. I don’t think J.L. Spears was pimped out, I think she had some part in the decision to sell the photographs and story. As far as writing a book, people have been willing to buy books about the Spears family ever since B. Spears “Did it again.” I can’t blame someone for wanting to make money in a capitalist society.
Not only are the Palins not rich, I don’t see what “white” has to do with anything. They’re two inexperienced children having a child, just as so many others have done, no matter their skin color. This racist remark shows that someone brown has issues.
It’s white guilt most likely.
I can only imagine what the Dems would do if her boyfriend were black ? The term “coniption fit” would be pretty accurate. I mean, they wouldn’t be able to make fun of her !
That remains to be seen. There is that kid in LA who says he’s the father of Bristol’s child…
He also came out and said he was lying about that for attention.
Sorry to dissapoint you OB1, but typically Democrats are ok with mixed race couples. Thank you for playing though.
she don’t look to happy in any of the pics you see of her and the BF thats for sure.
Considering all the hatred that’s been directed at her by Democrats and the media, it might be a difficult time for her.
You mean it would be okay if they were poor and black or at least democrats.
Racially-charged pot shots at a candidate’s child?
Honestly, are there no depths to which you guys won’t sink?
You think the Palins are “wealthy”? Wow. You are retarded.
Yeah, I’d say “wealthy.” They aren’t living paycheck to paycheck, can afford health care for all their children, aren’t having trouble paying off a mortgage, are going to be able to help Bristol take care of her child (which I think is great– I’d do the same for my kid– though I find the conservative hypocrisy appalling) and doing all this in ALASKA, which is a damned expensive place to live. So yes, they are “wealthy.” Get your head out of your ass and understand how financial unstable life is for the majority of Americans.
I wouldn’t call financial stability “wealthy”. I think what Jim is trying to say is that they are not wealthy by politician standards. Nowhere near the wealth that Obama has, or even Biden.
And everybody knows you can disguise thrift store furniture if you throw a giant bearskin on top of it. Especially if you skinned it yourself.
And not even a tiny percentage of what the McCains have.
And Palin hunts wolves from airplanes. Most people not only can’t afford a decent rifle, they certainly can’t afford to pay to get an airplane off the ground.
Oh she does not! She suports aerial hunting of wolves, she doesn’t do it herself. It’s a form of predator control, not saying it’s right but SHE does not do it herself… Geez.
I think we should be able to hunt lawyers and CEO’s from airplanes .
Agreed!
Thirded.
All in favor say I
All grammar nazis say aye.
Exactly, tis why I would use a cloth filled with steel ball bearings. Keep it intact but give me grim satisfaction.
Oh and Aye!!!
I don’t necessarily agree with hunting from a plane, but you’re wrong on a different part of your post
People who want things find the money to buy them. Guns, cars, motorcycles, boats, whatever. If you live in the part of the country where guns are plentiful and normal, and you want one, there are ways around having to fork over a bunch of money at one time for a decent rifle. Besides, a 22-250 isn’t an expensive gun, and is more than decent. 
Mmm, I do like guns. I just don’t own any yet.
I could loan you one for our march to get the CEO’s.
Ooooh, I am tempted but I would prefer somebody else wound them. Then I will just beat them to death while they bleed out. Tis a bit more personal.
You don’t want to ruin the pelt !
I need to pick up that M-44 Nagant I’ve been drooling over for months now. 7.62 ammunition with a 15 swing out bayonet.
I have one of thous, there nice little
rifles. I,m hoping to git a CETME some time
My husband’s next birthday present is going to be a .270. GREAT for deer hunting! Although, he enjoys bow hunting just as much or more. He’s supposed to get me a little compound bow this year so we can go together.
Ooooh, bow hunting for CEOs and Lawyers…
Be vewy vewy quiet. I’m hunting wascals.
huh huh huh…
Are those legal to hunt deer with?
A decent rifle isn’t that expensive
Maybe Oprah could afford it
Statistically, teen parents who have secure family lives do pretty well in raising their own kids. This means the parents don’t kick them out, the father sticks around and provides for his family, and the mother gets to complete her education. Bristol has the advantage of a wealthy, well- established family structure. If she were poor, with a pair of abusive parents who threw her out on her own for being a ’slut’ and an absent boyfriend, she’d have a rough time raising that kid. This is true regardless of the race of the family.
This is true.
as opposed to being black, piss poor & not knowing who the father is?
skin color is a lame excuse, if they are piss poor it’s because they never bothered to save their money, or use the benefits “black” people get toward a better education to get a better job to make more money and move out of the area, and if they don’t know who the father is they probably didn’t get the free birth control available to them just about EVERYWHERE you turn nowadays and are having way too many sexual partners reflects the irresponsible kind of person who would commit the previous statements.
You are naught but a dumb Cracker. Please stop typing now.
what a maroon
. . . “a maroon”?
Oh dear, Forge, April just called you DARK REDDISH PURPLY BROWN! I’d be deathly insulted if I were you!
wealthy….since when has roughly $44,000 and a little some that depends on the fishing season, been considered wealthy?
the palin family is not wealthy.
A fuckin’ men
Curious how the far left blasts McCain for being rich after marrying an heiress, but when it was Kerry, THAT was okay ! Care to explain that one?
At least McCain’s wife was smart enough to make him sign a pre-nup!
kerry didn’t abandon his disfigured wife for said heiress.
Said disfigured wife says that neither of them were the same people as before, and that’s what killed the marriage. She also speaks highly of McCain and says they are on good terms.
Yes she said that McCain acted like he was 40 going on 25. She wasn’t attractive enough for him anymore so he screwed around. Stay classy!
Still not answering the question .
Debating with trolls is a catch 22, amirite?
“Curious how the far left blasts McCain for being rich after marrying an heiress, but when it was Kerry, THAT was okay ! Care to explain that one?”
Um, wasn’t the RIGHT bitching about Kerry being married to an heiress, hon? And who’s been blasting McCain for being married to a rich lady? This is an honest question, as I’ve not heard a single bit of this so far. That’s what I get for listening to NPR, I guess. No dirt on the candidates.
LOL!
obviously its ok b/c ms. palin and mr. johnston are taking responsibility for their actions as opposed to blaming their problems on someone or something else like most liberals would do
It’s Bush’s fault !
I speak on behalf of Australia when I say: who cares?
Racism and class envy… classy…
Wow, seems this website favors Democraps. More LOL’s that favor them are picked than for Republicans. Join the ranks of the Liberal Media why don’t ya!
Lets go back to the 50’s. When teens and parents rarely talked about sex. Where unwed young mothers were shunned. Sure worked then right? (sarcasm…) That’s the thing about teaching abstinence only education. Kids talk about sex with eachother- so why can’t adults talk reasonably with young people about sex? Why?
We came from it. Every single person in this world was created because 2 people had sex. It’s not shameful; it is natural, human procreation. To just say not to do it, is like sticking your head back into the sand of an era gone by. I do not think it is like condoning it to say “Here is what to use so you don’t get pregnant or get a disease”, young people are impulsive, and have a lot more options and choices, and responsiblity for themselves; they are becoming adults. They lack the years of trial and error experience to look back on for their decisions, and often feel a sense of immortality.
I think it is wise to speak to them about the risks involved with having sex, they are at an age where they start to make decisions. So give them the real facts, and acess to protection from diseases, and give acess to birth control. Because parents can’t be there 100% of the time; they are growing into adults, and it is part of their process. Be supportive and understanding, open and upfront about your views and concerns with your teens.
Learning from friends is not good education when it comes to sex education.
I had a friend who thought you got pregnant by french kissing; luckily I was able to talk to my mom about these issues, and we had sex education in our highschool. So we friends were able to set our misguided buddy straight.
yeah, I heard kids in Florida believed bleach prevented AIDS. But this incident proves sex-ed is needed.
Vote to bring abstinence eduction to a school near you!
Why is no one jumping on the fact that Sarah Palin’s eldest, Track, joined the army to avoid going to jail?
Wish I knew…
“I believe marriage is the sacred commitment between two unwilling teenagers”
The boy looks so scared. XD
I is not ok. Money or no, keep the pants on till after the wedding.
Article on the AP, actual interview, about how Levi loves and wants to marry Bristol and is excited to be a father. Says no one is forcing them. It was on Yahoo earlier, google it.