Comments on: We need amnesty

By: Kakra

Kakra — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:04:28 +0000

I think we should also make sure those who hire illegals get procecuted, and, if convicted, get their business shut down. After all, as long as there’s a chance to get a job in the US, people will always be trying to come over here, legally or otherwise. And I can understand. Many of these people have poor families, and are trying to raise money for their family to survive back home, or even come over here themselves. However, it’s dangerous for both them and our economy to be trying to get over here illegally. When they realize that they can’t get a job here, what’s the point of staying, or trying to get over here again?

Also, I would like our leader to at least be investigating what is going on in Mexico, and why exactly the economy there is doing so poorly, and if there’s anything we can do to help. Our countries are right next to each other, so I would think it would be in our best interest to be working together, no?

By: VICKEY

VICKEY — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:49:16 +0000

THIS ONE IS STUPID. STUPID THAT THE FACT IS THESE IDIOTS WORK CHEAP! WE AMERICANS DONT SELL OURSELF CHEAP!

By: scum-bot

scum-bot — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:22:28 +0000

BURN!!

By: ryszard

ryszard — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:00:53 +0000

(To CF):You continue to amaze me. We both know we disagree on a lot, but you consistently get the military stuff right. (To others): Ever notice that in interviews with Islamofascist thugs, there are always children around? Ever wonder why that is? They’re called “human shields”. The 400 civilians who died in a bomb shelter in one of our air raids on Baghdad died because Saddam cynically put a shelter which was unknown to us above a Command & Control Center which he made SURE we knew about–so he could claim propaganda points. I am confident that in the Afghan incident we were after a legitimate target.

By: herb

herb — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:23:16 +0000

I don’t understand the part about denying them basic human rights.

I’m a bit spotty on that whole part about gunning for the employees and not the employer.

Kinda shaky on the limited number of work visas in comparison t the amount of labor that needs to be done.

By: herb

herb — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:18:58 +0000

ema disarmed the lol in a very stealthy and skilled manner as to leave me quite impressed.

By: herb

herb — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:17:11 +0000

The weather was hell. I find Denver too hot, too dry, and too sunny, yet we end up going to Arizona in August, back to New England in December. Planning for weather fail.

I’ve actually moved further to the Left after 9/11: I was appalled by the sudden “need” to lord over people, designing legislation to strip us of civil liberties, and effectively monitor our actions, all for some presumed “security”. We haven’t been made any safer by USPATRIOT or any other piece of legislation, so what did I loose my liberties for?

(That’s rhetorical, by the way)

I hear the righties saying we don’t need (for example) social programs, because are things the community should provide — which is one of the tenets of communism, by the way. I don’t see how or why the government is exempt from this equation, seeing as how it is of, by, and for the people. Need it be restated: I’m more for tax-and-spend policies, than borrow-and-spend.

By: Truth Seeker

Truth Seeker — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:54:13 +0000

What part of illegal is not understood? Why should we give illegals amnesty when every day hundreds of people stand in line to gain amnesty through the proper route?

By: ema

ema — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:30:21 +0000

Ugh, how’d you like the weather? It’s pretty much hell up there in the summer. Phoenix is a lot more conservative than were I live, the Berekley of the desert, Tucson. I am actually a registered Democrat to tell you the truth, but the party has gone so far left I have been voting Rebuplican, espeically since 9/11/2001. (I probably should officially switch!) I trust them so much more to keep us safe, that’s what it boils down to for me. Also if they would do what they are supposed to do and keep the government small it would be a plus. If the Democrats had come up with a better candidate I might have voted for him/her.

By: MegaBob

MegaBob — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:11:20 +0000

Huh ? O-o ! Do you admit denying that you denied admitting being at the grassy knoll?

By: herb

herb — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:06:51 +0000

We (me, missus, and the sprout) recently spent a week in Phoenix. Babe needed to meet her great-grandfather while he’s still with us. I’m not about to argue politics with an 89-year-old man, but when he’d go off about how the newspapers are so biased towards the Democrats because they wouldn’t run front page articles on Obama being a Muslim, I was a bit off-put, because the “liberal” meida was sickeningly tainted with neoconservativism. (It’s a trick of the news: publish what your readers want to read.)

I’m not surprised you are the way you are (decidedly Repub, though your beliefs are actully more Dem in practice) because of this atmosphere.

By: herb

herb — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:36:00 +0000

First off, so you know, it’s apple pie with a slice of cheddar cheese (sharp, white cheddar, mind). Maybe a little bit of grade B maple syrup. Sometimes with a bowl of baked beans as a side.

And in New England, ‘Yankee’ is a dangerous term, as New York hijacked the name for their baseball team, and most people born in the Northeast are honor-bound to support the Boston Red Sox over any other, and any other over the Yankees.

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:16:36 +0000

don’t you hate that? I mean, the only thing worse is laughing that hard while drinking something. You have issues at both ends if you aren’t careful.

By: lowly grunt

lowly grunt — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:05:24 +0000

You must have lost your notebook with your newer material. That’s so old. The first time I heard that one, McCain was still young!

By: lowly grunt

lowly grunt — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:02:34 +0000

My husband sent me that and I laughed so hard I had to go to the bathroom!!

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:58:24 +0000

PS Jane, I linked a funny chart in my name. You might get a kick out of it but Ema might cry … don’t look Ema!

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:57:25 +0000

but … ibuprofen will tear up your liver and kidneys and aspirin is easier to type.

By: not-so-sullen girl

not-so-sullen girl — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:36:22 +0000

Not photo-shopped (read other comments above). It was a gigantic screen backdrop. Chances are that there was some wavering that gives it a blurry appearance in that one spot. Or it could be natural glitches in foreground photography, given the large scale of the image.

By: Charlie Foxtrot

Charlie Foxtrot — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:51:57 +0000

That’s always a problem in unconventional warfare when non-uniformed insurgent forces occupy and operate out of areas where civilians inhabit the area as well. That is the problem with war, even conventional ones … if war only hurt soldiers it would be bad, but soldiers, after all are soldiers. But it doesn’t just hurt soldiers. Civilians are going to be killed, does that mean you have to let the enemy go? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Check any major war in history and find just one where civilians did not get killed and injured during combat operations. The difference between us and them? They directly target civilians, we not only do not directly target civilians, we do all in our power to try to avoid harming them.

By: Charlie Foxtrot

Charlie Foxtrot — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:44:49 +0000

Actually, it was Bill Ayers, dressed in an Obama suit who was on a war movie set in Hollywood where he refused to visit the liberal actors playing wounded troops.

By: PiMan

PiMan — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:36:09 +0000

Or when US forces can’t hit a target. Roughly two weeks ago, a US strike killed 90 civilians. Including 60 children and 15 women.
US military claimed no more than 9 civilians died and that
roughly 30 militants died too. And that it was a successful strike, despite UN and Afghan reports to the contrary.

By: PiMan

PiMan — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:24:12 +0000

But apple pie is sweet.
I wouldn’t think it too unusual for someone to have a meat pie though.

By: lol

lol — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:15:49 +0000

Nothing wrong with pie for breakfast. Especially apple.

By: ema

ema — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:57:24 +0000

Ja me entiendes!!

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:48:39 +0000

LOL! Fess up, ema, you SSAN filcher!

By: ema

ema — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:37:00 +0000

por que herb?

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:09:53 +0000

But it’s not rising because of military operations. It’s rising because terrorists don’t want to see Iraq as a democratic country. The only way they know how to do that is by suicide bombings and killing innocents. If that’s your view of McCain, so be it I’m not the guy to disuade you. His record, for good or bad, will have to stand on it’s own merit.

By: PiMan

PiMan — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:02:21 +0000

I did too, but I thought it might be fake ema’s return.

By: PiMan

PiMan — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:00:18 +0000

It still is for people out side the US.
Something I found on the internet:
To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

By: Roy

Roy — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:53:32 +0000

Tryin’ to make a point here

But still, your right, that was a stretch. But still, the current death toll is really higher, and despite my exaggeration, it is in fact rising. And does McCain care? From the looks of it, all he cares about it war.

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:52:55 +0000

Actually, 10 years isn’t that long. Try getting a Top Secret clearance sometime. When I migrated to Australia I had to have an all clear from the FBI, so the U.S. isn’t the only country that has this requirement.

By: dhatth

dhatth — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:33:53 +0000

10 years, thats one hell of a background check. i like the other idea tho. if they want to be part of this country, let them fight for it, that and i think anyone convicted of a violent gun crime should serve their sentence in iraq, you wanna play with guns, here you go, dont forget to duck.

By: lol

lol — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:53:35 +0000

Maybe diplomats are lacking because the US gave the UN the finger?

By: herb

herb — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:20:33 +0000

The hell’d my post go?

Bullet points for now (while it eventually stumbles through the door later in the evening, reeking of rum and beer, and with another LOL’s lipstick on its collar):

* My friend discovered his SSN had been jacked when his earnings statement showed a sudden increase of SS put in the piggy bank for him. He wins.

* I find out my SSN had been jacked when the IRS sends me a letter for failure to pay income taxes on earnings.

* ema being from AZ strangely explains much for me.

By: herb

herb — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:16:05 +0000

“Unlike Obama who (unfortunately like Clinton) if the going gets tough…RUN!!!!”

:eyeroll: Fact checking fail.

By: herb

herb — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:58:21 +0000

You’re from Arizona? No shit. That suddenly seems to make sense.

On topic, though: a buddy of mine got his semi-annual Social Security statement to discover that he apparently raked in a hefty chunk of SS from an employer in CA when he was in school in VT. Someone uses his SSN, he earns income credits for retirement. Someone uses min, I get hit with an evasion charge from the IRS.

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:57:29 +0000

LOL! Seriously funny image in my head now!

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:48:16 +0000

I did too, but I figured you meant democrats so I let it ride knowing you’d figure it out eventually.

By: Jane St.Clair

Jane St.Clair — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:47:06 +0000

I’m sorry Jellybeans, I have to disagree with your statement. Anyone who has dealt with military doctors knows they give you Ibuprofen not aspirin.

By: ema

ema — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:20:16 +0000

It just gets them a job mainly.

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:17:57 +0000

GIven that though, they’re still illegal. Having a fake SS number doesn’t grant you citizenship or the rights thereof.

By: ema

ema — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:17:45 +0000

It’s a huge underground business here in Arizona, creating fake id for illegal immigrants – fake driver’s licenses, fake SS cards, etc.

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:15:57 +0000

That I wouldn’t doubt. Years ago the State I was living in had my SS number on another person’s drivers licence. It took me ages to get that one sorted out!

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:14:33 +0000

No kidding? Dang, that’s the first I’ve heard of that one!

(I’m not being sarcastic either, I honestly hadn’t heard that.)

By: ema

ema — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:12:40 +0000

Oh, and I don’t think they check real careful if the SS is from the right person or not.

By: ema

ema — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:11:49 +0000

The get fudged ones from what I understand, and their employers pay the taxes in the payroll like with everyone but they never file for a refund.

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:11:04 +0000

I did, but I figured you would come along and correct it..

By: eddiepscetti

eddiepscetti — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:09:22 +0000

Wait a second, if they’re illegal, how are they paying income tax and Social Security? They can’t have Social Security number if they are illegal, they would have to apply for and be issues a Green Card for that to happen. As for paying tax on the things they buy, that’s true. But then they end up send back what money they do earn to their home country (note I didn’t specifically say Mexico.) The other problem I have is the illegals coming across the border, getting free services such as medical and then expecting tax payers to foot the bill (including those that have legel residency status.) As for your question, I can’t really say as I have no knowledge of that. I don’t really see how that is relevant though since that was a different time and the economics were poles apart.

By: ema

ema — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:01:54 +0000

I mean Democrats dammit – no one even noticed my mistake?

By: jellybeans

jellybeans — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:56:47 +0000

He may visit them but he doesn’t help them. He constantly votes against any kind of help or assistance or improved care for veterans.
He should be ashamed of himself, I mean really … As a veteran himself he should know that the people who fight for us and are wounded or in need of our care should get every benefit and assistance we can possibly provide.
You will say democrats are anti-war but at least we want to help the soldiers who need it when they come back from fighting those wars we oppose. The republican standard all to often is “Thanks for fighting, know you lost some buddies and got shot up a bit … here’s an aspirin and a lollipop now GTFO”