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You’re So Cute When You’re Being Forced Into Marriage
(Bristol Palin & Levi Johnston)
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Even though this guy seems like a supreme dick, I do pity him.
He just wanted some ass, and now he’s got the expectations of an entire country on his shoulders. If he doesn’t crack, I’ll be much impressed.
he made a mistake, and he didnt know what he was getting into
Yeah, HUGE mistake. Everyone knows you don’t fuck pro lifers.
they play, you pay
yeah, but she had…
You have to be bigger than your impulses if you don’t want this to happen to you too.
Or use a damn condom.
We are talking about doing a pro-lifer here – you want to risk that with a condom?
I am only attracted to rabid pro-lifers and dirty, dirty hippies.
I am sorry to hear that.
I’m about as dirty as hippies get…
I’m a pro-lifer, and I’m not about to force anyone into marriage over a kid. I wouldn’t even make them acknowledge the kid.
A little harsh, isn’t it? Who knows what they are like, but they’re making a choice that is an uphill struggle, the odds are not impossible, but stacked against them, even more so now. Putting her mom’s politics aside, I hope for their sakes and especially the child’s that everything works out ok. They’re going to need a lot of luck.
I was a little harsh. Hell, maybe these kids are really in love, and maybe they are scared to death, but at the same time totally excited. Maybe no one forced the marriage, we don’t know what happened behind the scenes, maybe they were given a choice.
I’m no fan of McCain or Palin, and while I support Obama, I do have some reservations about him. However, if it was his kid, I would still apply the same criticisms and scrutiny.
Don’t get me wrong, Palin literally popped out of nowhere (I know I lived in AK for four years awhile ago… alot of beauty and alot of nothing). It is her fault that her child is in the news, no one else’s. She hasn’t been veted through the public process. She chose to enter into the race for the second highest office in the country and to be ready th assume the highest. She used her family to demonstrate her credentials as a social conservative, she used her family throughout the beginning part of her acceptance speech to show what a “down-to-earth” person she is. If she can’t take the heat, she should get out of the race. She can’t use her family, time the introduction of this information for the greatest benefit, then cry foul. My main point was, we can’t forget these kids didn’t choose it…her mom did, and her mom should be held accountable for that decision…she could have told McCain, thanks, but no thanks.
It was a funny lol, though.
… and yet if we criticize the mother, we’re accused of attacking the children. If Palin didn’t want to be hit by a train, maybe she should be standing on the railroad tracks.
Her mother is the darling of a major political party and governor of the state. I doubt things are going to prove all that “uphill” for them.
Where are the incest jokes about Obama and his girls? Oh wait, the families are supposed to be left out of it except when they are trotted out on stage to show what great families they are (“Hi Daddy! What city are you in?”) Just because Palin brings her kids on stage doesn’t mean they should be ripped. Obama has brought his kids on stage, Clinton did it with Chelsea, Biden references his kids every chance he gets…….I see no comparable slagging of the families on the liberal side. The argument could be made that Obama’s girls aren’t pregnant out of wedlock simply because they aren’t old enough yet. It’s the same type of crap that is being leveled at the Palin kids, and just as unfair.
That is a foolish comment to make. They are not pregnant because they are not pregnant! Her daughter is! Who cares if when they get older they get prego out of wedlock, at that point he won’t be running for president. Not only that, but Obama does not have the same family issues. He is running for president, and it may not be his girls, but it could have been other things. The truth is it wasn’t and the fact is should have, could have, would haves are not what is being discussed, rather what is in front of us right now, and what is in front of us is a woman who can’t even seem to keep her family straight and be a completely honest about her past and things that effect her life (which Sen. Obama did that’s why nothing came out on him). So how can we trust this woman to be the VP and possible the Pres if something happens to McCain?
AMEN!
Well lucky me, I have stumbled across the “We are all so fricking happy with our lives because we made very single right choice without any mistakes by listening to and believing everything our parents said and did was correct which has resulted in our ability to know what other people are thinking and feeling by watching them on TV Blog”.
If you only realized how all of your comments and assumptions about subject that you have no inside knowledge on make you seem very stupid, which may or may not be true. Debating over policy is one thing but to actually infer that you have any clue as to what the Palin family does or says in their private lives is kinda dumb. Even for a bunch of democraps.
You must be reading different messages than I did, cuz I didn’t see anyone guessing what the Palin’s said around the dinner table.
Charlie Foxtrot it closer to your monitor and r e a d r e a l l y s l o w l y and you might just figure out, ::not holding my breath:: what comments, there is more than one, I was referring to.
Good one, I bet you saved that one from the playground. Run along now, the adults are talking.
Win!
I have a guess of what may have been said around the Palins’ dinner table.
“Bristol, could you pass the moose-kebab?”
“Sure mom”
Beyond that, I have no idea.
And I only used Briston in this because I couldn’t remember anyone elses name.
Which is exactly why I recanted my original statement. I have no idea. Neither do you. I just hope the fervor over the kids dies down, and that the scrutiny over Palin/Biden/Obama/McCain increases.
I may be a Democrap, but I’m not delusional. In my opinion, they are all politicians, and all politicians use thier families (Palin), thier personal tragedies (McCain- “*wah wah* I was a POW”, Obama- “*wah wah*, I was poor and black”), to increase thier chances at winning. I just think Obama is the better choice. The fact the McCain I loved 4 years ago no longer exists (the one who called fundamentalists, what was it..a threat? *needs to fact check, its been a while since I watched that vid*) just makes me sad. He used to support gay marriage and he used to support gay in the military, but he reversed all of that a couple years ago to gear up for this election. Yeah, I’m a queer Democrap. Sue me.
You’re ok. Political discussions tend to bring out quick responses, you did acknowledge the harshness of your initial comment and enter into a reasonable analysis & discussion, something the other party couldn’t quite manage to acomplish. Rock On.
Oh, and please don’t argue with the children, they might start to think that they can form an opinion.
heh
You seem to flame quite a lot. I’m no child, mind you!
Bristol’s boyfriend may turn out to be a pretty good dad.
I can just imagine it now…
“Hey, (insert baby’s name here), guess what? Grandma ran for VP of the US.”
“And lost.”
WIN!
By definition, no.
Zing!
Given the rest of the family, I wouldn’t be surprised if they chose that name.
Nah, it seems like it would need to be some high-school level course name. Track, Trig, and now… Lit? WorldCiv? English?
ConLaw Doesn’t sound that bad (o.O)
I’m maybe the only one that cares, but Connla was the son of the Irish legendary hero Cuchulainn, so it’s not outside the realm of possibility, though it does have a dark end, that tale…)
((And given we named our girl Ophelia, dark ends do not a name disqualify))
Heh, don’t know how old your daughter is, but when she finally gets around to reading Hamlet, you’re going to have some questions to answer.
She’ll be 17, old enough to get married and have a baby, right?
No, she’ll never be old enough.
I don’t mind responding to fire with fire. I would prefer intelligent conversation, but, for example, when discussing an issue and someone enters into the conversation and calls me a name, lets just say democrap out of the blue, I will let them know my thoughts on the issue. Thats the problem with conservatives, by the way, when they can’t reasonably respond to an issue, they attack, then when someone attacks back they cry. I am actually disappointed with conservatives these days, they have become a bunch of crybabies.
Oh, and read my first post in the string. I think that I said that, or words to that effect.
I have been on the receiving side of CF’s flames, and to be honest, I don’t really mind them. The reason being is most of the time (don’t get a big head from this CF) it causes me to step back and re-evaluate where I’m going on a particular subject. I may still hold on to my ideas, but he at least tries to be objective 99% of the time (the other 1% is purely subjective, but I’ll give him that allowance.) Basically what I’m trying to say is look through the rhetoric of others and try to get to the nut of the issue.
Thanks, although I will be the first to admit that I can be a royal pain in the, well, shall we say — ass.
Yeah, you are.. but you’re ok in my books.
back at ya, my conservative friend.
I give it about a year before divorce. Forced marriages ‘because of the baby’ never work out. The only reason for marriage should be love, not media or politics.
This marriage will be an epic fail.
Ironically, its on the side intent on “defending marriage and the family”.
If you’ve got a flippin’ crystal ball to tell how their marriage will turn out, tell us who’s going to win the election already so we can all move on to something more productive; like booger jokes.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
That’s funny – it’s all a cacophony to me.
too bad it will fail after the election….but I bet…that Bristol will “lose” the baby after the election anyway….i think her being pregnant is to cover up the fact that Trig is HERS!!!
I disagree. I’ve seen several marriages which were “Just because of the baby” work out fine. Your right in that many more do not but a blanket statement is a bit harsh. And to the first poster, yes he just wanted some ass but he also needs to learn to live with his mistakes and while he is young, he is old enough to understand that “getting some ass” could also entail “raising a kid”.
I doubt he’s old enough to understand that, at least the girl isn’t. Really, when you’re 17 you’re just a kid and far from an adult.
All the marriages I’ve seen with barely legal couples or those forced by unwanted pregnancies have either ended in divorce or in the husband and wife resenting each other and taking it out on the kid. It ain’t pretty.
Be carefull with statements like that
Afterall, who says that what you have seen is representable for everyone. Who knows, maybe you’ve only seen exceptions (wich is probably not the case here, I think).
Except that’s what all the research on the subject of marriage say. The earlier you marry, the more likely you are to get divorced. Furthermore, children often do not really increase the likelihood of success of marriage, several other factors do. And they are living in a state that has the 12th highest divorce rate in the country.
I do wish them luck in their marriage, but the odds are stacked against them.
In the end, it is still there choice.
I agree, I was just saying that the odds are not in their favor.
Of course, this is different than being PRO-choice.
No, they don’t believe in “Choice”. This is their thing they feel they must do.
Ah, the illusion of free will! I haven’t thought about that in years!
Oh and so you know I’m not talking out of my ass, here’s some research.
http://www.divorcereform.org/cor.html
Look under the age section…
And for those too lazy to look at the nice link I provided, here are some quotes from the research.
“Early marriage is a key predictor of later divorce. Nearly half of people
who marry under age 18 and 40 percent under age 20 end up divorced. It’s
only 24 percent for people who marry after age 25.”
“Figures released last year from the National Center for Health Statistics
found nearly half of marriages in which the bride is 18 or younger end in
separation or divorce within 10 years. For brides 25 and older, half as many
marriages break up.”
I dunno, Sarah Palin’s marriage did.
She was much older. I believe 24, which, adjusting for the attitudes of kids these days, is the approximate equivalent of 27 these days.
It’s GOOD! Don’t you see?
A loveless forced marriage, the pain of childbirth, and parenthood that she doesn’t want and is unprepared for is GOD’S PUNISHMENT for premarital sex! The way it used to be, the way it ought to be, the way it’s gonna be again!
It’s GOOD, you see?
PRAISE JAYZUS!
Wow. That’s a lot of assumptions. It was the daughter’s choice to keep the baby, and there is nothing there to assume that this is a loveless marriage. Not everyone thinks they need to run from taking responsibility for their actions. But I guess that’s a foreign idea to you, isn’t it? It’s called integrity. And it’s amazing. Both of them are taking responsibility for their mistake. Holy crap! The father of the baby isn’t just running away like a coward! He isn’t being a selfish bastard like so many men are these days. And wow. You know what? True love is actually the willingness to sacrifice one’s on desires to provide for another person’s needs. Wow. Grow up, dude. Quit living in a world without responsibility.
That girl did not have a choice. Now, I am not saying she wouldn’t have kept the baby if she did have a choice, she probably would have but it is false to say she made a choice. Her mom would have killed her before letting her have an abortion.
She had a choice, what she lacked was the wisdom to discern when that choice was being made.
People who get raped don’t ‘have a choice’. As far as I’m aware, this is not one of those cases.
You are correct. Now their choice is to do the best for their child, despite the circumstances. Her mom had a choice also, submit my family to this media frenzy or just say no.
A choice between an unwanted marriage and baby or being ostracized and hated by your family, church, and friends. win!
Because there isn’t the option of being a father to the child and paying child support without marrying her.
And my family is quite conservative, but my cousin did the same thing and we all still love her.
Even my church has two members (sisters) who both had babies out of wedlock without marrying the fathers and no one is shunning them.
The baby doesn’t automatically have to mean marriage. In no way will that make whatever “mistake” they made be right again.
In my opinion their only mistake was failing to practice effective birth control methods.
(And please, no one give me the 1% stuff I heard about Jamie Lynn when know one knew if she’d used condoms or the pill or not. It’s highly unlikely two high-profile teen pregnancies were both the cause of that 1%. Also, ripped condoms are what emergency contraception is for.)
I’m sorry, all I hear when I see this thought process is “You DARED to have sex without intending to reproduce, now deal with your punishment. That’ll teach you!”
Because, you know, every teen girl is just as fortunate as Bristol, with money and time to properly take care of a baby and parents who support them, and married couples never get abortions. …Wait a second, no they’re not, and yes they do.
Maybe if these girls don’t have time and money to take care of babies, they shouldn’t be making them just to turn around and kill them…
it does taake two to tango.
Yes, because we all know how successful abstinence-only
education is. Sex is part of life, and no matter what is taught at home
and at school, there will still be teenagers experimenting with it.
… and when all they hear in their abstinence-only ed classes is that condoms break and fail, and that all contraception doesn’t work perfectly, so they don’t use any. Now 1:4 teenage girls has an STD.
This “puritanical” movement has been long reaching. Jocelyn Elders was fired as Surgeon General during the Clinton administration because she dared suggest that we teach kids about *gasp!* masturbation. (0% chance of pregnancy, 0% chance of STDs, great way to blow off steam…)
I thre quotations around the word “puritanical” because even the Puritans weren’t as sex-phobic as we are becoming.
Seriously. I think Elders’ idea was a marvelous one. I actually was skimming parenting books in a Christian bookstore once and found a book that recommended masturbation as an alternative to sex. I forced my mother to buy it.
Then, weeks later, my father made me attend a parent/child session of my old church’s youth group where the definition of “sexual immorality” included “manual stimulation of yourself or others”. I was quite upset at that. I even asked the youth pastor where that definition came from and got him to admit that sexual immorality is never defined in the Bible.
aaah! Tell me I didn’t read what I just read!
Aaaaaah! double-aaaah! You are … Aaaaaah!
Actually she did have a choice. She chose to have pre- marital sex. Now she has to live with the consequences. She didn’t have to have sex. Maybe she
feels abortion is wrong. How are we to know. I think everyone should
leave the kids alone and let them live their lives. They won’t have much of
a chance when everyone is meddling.
That’s right. Own up and be punished for your sins.
That comment isn’t correct. What do you think causes children? It’s not a matter of own up and be punished for your sins, its a matter of thinking about it before hand, or living with your choice afterword. Adolescents make many choices, some are good, some aren’t. Everybody likes to run on the edge once in awhile, the problem is when you fall off are you willing to suckup the results or sit around and cry about how unfair life is, or blame someone else?
There are other options besides having the baby and getting married.
not for Bristol there ain’t…
Unfortunately, you’re probably correct..
of course there are, but come-on, I’m pro choice, but that doesn’t mean just have sex without forethought then do a D&C and move on — that is paris hilton mentality. I may be old, but I do , vaguely, remember youth. THE only NATURAL way to get pregnant is to have sex. While I disagree with abstinance only education, the only guarrentee of not having a baby is not to have sex. The point is, if you are going to have sex, fine, just remember what happens when you do.
dude….Boris….at 17…you don’t know what “love”…just lust….how many times were you just “oh my god….like totally in love” at that age?
Ah, a testament to abstinence-only education. They are obviously being paid, and paid well, to get married. How long their marriage contract with the Republican party lasts is anybody’s guess. Maybe after McSame and Lipstick Pit Bull crash, they will be “allowed” to get a divorce.
This has nothing to do with God and everything to do with extreme ambition. Terribly sad the way people expose and manipulate their children for their own political ends.
Not sure I agree with you but I hope they are going to be given some kind of annuity that is guaranteed so that they will have support after the public eye moves on. The boy dropped out from what I can determine of his mother’s interview so they are going to need some serious help.
Dropping out of school was the most stupid part of this ordeal so far. He should be continuing his education (as should she, in whatever way she can while still being a good mother. I suggest get a GED and take night classes or something) so that he can get a GOOD job and help pay for the kid.
Literally laughed my A$$ OFF!!!
Oh dear, you must have had some time finding a surgeon capable of reattaching it.
Yeah, all the surgeons I see ads for specialize in taking it /off/.
Hahahha, everyone is like getting into a serious discussion about politics, I am loling
HA!
OMG You’re right! Everyone is like, getting into like, way smart discussions because like, that’s what people like do on a political website, like, right?
Srsly?
Let’s face it, Jane. Some people have a keen sense for the obvious!
The problem is, some don’t
Shotgun wedding!
And a stain on my shirt.
I don’t know what substance to assume for that stain.
Please specify.
Don’t believe everything that you breathe.
Got a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve.
Oh thank goodness, I was wondering if anyone was going to catch it.
my time is a piece of wax falling on a termite, who’s choking on a splinter.
Drive-by body piercing.
The look on that poor boy’s face says it all. He’s thinking OMG what is all this?? A week ago I was hanging out with my buds, playing X-Box, and now I’m sitting here on national TV. HELP!!!!!
I’m sure he will get to play X-Box again – don’t most husbands? lol!!
ha! My brother has a 2 month old baby … he has played 2 – count them – 2 hours of xbox since the birth. Once the little guy is 4 or 5 months old I am guessing there will be more time but right now he and his wife take every chance they can to just sleep. It does look like Bristol and Levi will have help so he might get 3 or 4 hours in 2 months
I have two children, so I’ve learned that they aren’t all the same. However, at two months the babies are usually happy if they are with you, and you respond in a timely manner when they are hungry or need changing.
I did all sorts of things with babies in pouches, front backs and back packs. I wasn’t an xbox kind of father, but I do recall programming computers with an infant on my lap.
That ended as soon as the infant reached the age where he wanted to touch everything.
Favorite Parent Story Ever:
I asked my friend Seth how his Daughter was doing.
His reply?
“SHE’S SIX!”
Statement: Only noobs play Xbox, real men have a PS3!
His name is Levi? Is he gay?
I am typing this with an almost-two month old on my stomach (and a milk spit-up on my shoulder), holding the keyboard on my feet and trying to type.
“Okay, she’s sleeping,” the wife says, “I’m just going out with my friends for a little a while. She’s eaten and should sleep for some time.”
Some time was ten freakin’ minutes. PK’s the closest I can come to doing anything constructive. (which it’s not; which was the point.)
Oh, you know I didn’t mean to imply that all husbands do is play X-Box! I just meant that marraige is not a death sentence with no more fun allowed ever again. In some countries they still celebrate marriage with gatherings that last for days. It doesn’t have to be looked at as something dreadful, although they are kind of young.
Don’t fret it. No one took your comment as anything but a funny true comment
Naw, we play Playstation as well.
I’m just waiting for the pornographic photos and video he took of her to come out.
Now that would be fun.
You know he took them. It’s a matter of if it’s him, a friend or a burgular that gets them out. I’d say middle-end of October would be a good time.
OMG nasty, but
He does look a little scared in the photo, if body language tells you anything it looks like he is pulling away from her hand. The look on his face is a little bit “deer in the headlights”. He looks like the kind of guy that has lots of girls running after him, probably would knock up a few more if he wasn’t getting married now! lol!
Y’know, I wondered about this. There are some pictures floating on the interwebs of this young man and his friends and the female with him in a couple pictures is blond. I think we are witnessing the 17 year old wanting to get the hell out of her parent’s house finding a way to do it. Sad, really.
While that is a possibility, it’s also likely that the pictures are from before he and Bristol started doing what they do, or he was also seeing a blonde, or (I don’t know what all is in the pictures) he just has a close friend who’s blonde.
The fact that Ms. Palin had NO trouble at all putting her 17 year old pregnant daughter up for public scrutiny tells me all I need to know about her.
“ME first, Country Second, Family, last.”
Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Or the one.
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KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!
Agreed. Don’t get me wrong – I hate her for plenty of legit political reasons, such as the fact that her politics would move us back – way back – but this is the real nail in her coffin.
No, it tells you that the Democratic smears against her 17-year old daughter as being the real mother of Trig had to be countered with the truth.
You’re blaming the victim, when the real villains are the media and liberal smear-merchants.
It was a valid theory at the time based on her actions – flying at 8 months pregnant, not announcing for 7 months then not showing at all while the daughter was out of school with mono and looked like she had a bump…
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And yes, I will be flamed for this BUT: Bristol does not look 5 months along on a 1st time pregnancy. At 5 months most 17 year olds wouldn’t show on their firsts.
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So there you have it. I have been thinking it but would not have mentioned it again if you hadn’t brought it up EP.
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I think this is what happens a lot around here. One of the more rabid NAeo-Cons will make a statement about past ills that we have all stopped talking about just in hopes to get us going again so that they can start flaming the mean-terrible liberals.
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If YOU hadn’t of brought it up poor Bristol would have been spared this vicious attack. But, that isn’t really your concern is it? You throw her to the wolves more than any liberal by bringing up every nasty comment again and again and again. You don’t let it rest after the world has moved on. You dredge it back up to chew on it some more and make yourself even angrier.
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In Bristol’s defense, she could have tried to gain weight to hide the pregnancy which is a common action in teenage girls and would answer why she looks farther along.
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I have never said anything mean about the kids. Just about the mother but you won’t believe that because it doesn’t make such delicious talking points.
Jelly-1
Evil Pundit-0
Is it just me, or is the concept of forcing a boy to marry a girl he got pregnant sort of …19th century?
He’s a free person, not a slave. I don’t care whose daughter he knocked up. If he doesn’t love Bristol, or want to be married to her, he should say no. Of course, he’ll have to pay child support, but seriously, dude, you don’t have to marry her.
He may not feel free, or he may really love her and want to marry her and make a family, we don’t really know. Some churches put a great deal of pressure on their members to conform to a strict social order. These two have a couple of advantages over other pregnant teens. They have the social support of their family for their choice (if indeed it was their choice), and they have the financial support. The fact is that many teens in their situation have neither, and that’s a big reason why abstinence-only sex-ed is a FAIL. A recent study claimed that 96% of people in the US admitted to pre-marital sex. I figure that means 4% of people are liars. Even people who believe sex before marriage is a sin still do it, why in the world would we close our eyes and base our policies on what some people WISH would happen? How stupid is that??
Fundies live in a fairy tale land devoid of reality.
Not necessarily.. maybe as a general rule that could be correctm but there are some of us that buck the trend.
Then you guys are not really fundies.
uh, a Moderate Fundie then?
Radical moderate?
Oooooooooh, Racical man.. I can dig it!
Crap..RADICAL!! sheesh.. I hate Monday mornings..
Nobody forced him.
It’s a stupid caption on a lol, not a serious report.
So you talked to him. And know for a fact that this is his decision?
The poster children for abstinence only education!
i love it! you know if they do go through with the wedding, he’s going to screw around on her the entire marriage. or one day he’ll snap and pull a scott peterson.
Scott Peterson is just a psycho. Don’t think marriage was responsible for that.
Wow. This is why people LOVE to hear what brilliant Libs have to say. You are a sicko.
Wow, make some more assumptions, people. It’s quite entertaining.
Half of the marriages in this country end in divorce. Maybe they’ll make it, maybe not–but if not, they’re just the same as half of the other marriages, many of which don’t have “too young” or “felt forced into it” as an excuse. Who cares? Let them do their thing and hopefully they’ll defy the odds.
And NOBODY here has ever mentioned condom. He problably was never taught about it either.
You know, it’s not like condom’s a ‘new’ invention. You can’t walk through a grocery or drug store without seeing them. So I highly doubt he was ignorant to what they are or used for. It was probably more a matter of teen lust rather then poor education.
Not exactly. If you’re not educated on them, it’s less likely to occur to you, and ditto if you were fed a pack of lies such as those religious right organisations such as Focus on the Family like to dish out.
Or you could just be a horny teenage boy who thinks he’s invincible and nothing bad is ever going to happen and he wants to have sex RIGHT NOW and if you loved him you’d do it. Now, if Bristol was fully educated on condoms and knew things with her boyfriend was getting serious she should have had them in her purse ready to go. The moral to this story is that guys are jerks and you need to look out for yourselves ladies!
Unfortunately when the testosterone kicks in, you’re absolutley correct!
I don’t know if “jerks” would be the thing to call them… they’ve just got hormones screwing up their clarity of thought. Sounds like some other situations I can think of, which happen more or less regularly every month to half the population…
*steps slowly away from n8*
You’re on your own with that one..
Ah well, it won’t be the first mob of angry women I’ve fled from. The torches aren’t so bad, but the pitchforks really sting!
Sad but true with a lot of guys. That’s why I have my own stash! Hooray for 4 free condoms a day at University Health Service!
At first I thought you said “Hooray for free condoms day”. I couldn’t help but think, “They only give them out one day a year/month? They’re just asking for it!” Reading fail on my part, hahah.
Sorry, but I totally disagree. When I was that age, and were talking decades here, I knew about condoms. Every guy I knew kept one in his wallet ‘just in case’. I should point out that my upbringing included very Fundamentalist teachings, so even though I was taught ’sex is bad until married’ I was still prepared.
Lust comes all along our lives. But the younger you are the worse are the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. You have to be taught from the very start that condoms are a critical part of sex life. It’s ok to have sex, but teenage pregnancy is so wrong.
Not unless the teens are willing to keep the kid.
It’s still not something that people should encourage. I’m all for the kids making their own choices, but I still don’t think that teenage parenthood should be seen as something to celebrate.
When do you cut it off? What age is too young to have sex? Kids do have to be taught all of the options, but they are kids and the emphasis has to be on resisting the natural urges… that’s what adults do, teach kids the right things to do. It happens with drugs, alchol, cigarettes, driving a car… everything. Will some of them ignore it, hell yeah, but that doesn’t mean we don’t tell them.
Actually, the federal government provides funding to high schools for sex education. Since the begining of the BUSH era, that funding has had some strings attached, ie, you only get the money if you teach abstinence only sex ed, many schools have elected to refuse the funding, for some reason. So will the GOP VP nominee advocate the continuation of that policy or not?
It does go a bit further back, as I mentioned above, when the Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders pissed off the Religious Reich by suggesting that we teach kids a safe yet gratifying substitute for sex (spanking the monkey/double-clicking the mouse).
That’d probably save a few mishaps. And by spanking the monkey, surely they don’t mean flying solo. For guys, that won’t always cut it.
LMAO at all the people saying “But Bristol made the choice to keep her baby!!!”
As if ANYone believes that shit, for one flying minute.
I am willing to bet good money that Mamma Palin pitched a bitch and what really went down was something more like this: “You WILL keep this baby and you WILL get married! I will not be made to look a fool! I don’t care if you aren’t ready and don’t want to get married! It’s not about what you want! It never was!”
I sooo agree with you. Kids having kids, what monster would want that?
Wow, a monster? *sigh*
What mother would be proud of that?
mothers are generally proud of their kids. the young couple may have made a mistake, but I look at this picture and I see a tousand kids in high schools across the USA. It is life as we all know it. This is not their fault… it is her mother’s for choosing to bring this into the media forefront. Sarah Palin is to blame for these kids discomfort.
I think in this case Palin probably felt it was better to ‘get it out there’ before the MSM got a hold of it. You have to admit, it does allow for better damage control in that they can think through any repsonses and not be blind sided.
It was because of all the left-wing blogs that were saying that she had faked the pregnancy, she was forced to bring it out in the public because of the rumors.
Right, but had she chosen not to bring it out that the daughter was pregnant, can you imagine the MSM asking what else she was hiding?
Perhaps, but given that she and her family are going to be in the public eye for at least the next few months, and Bristol’s bump is only gong to get bigger, it wouldn’t be very long before it came out anyway. Remember, the thing that sparked all those rumors was that Bristol appeared to be pregnant.
Really… are you sure? I’m not convinced, besides it doesn’t matter. Sarah Palin accepted the nomination. She has made herself quite clear on her positions, and has even used her family to support them and gain credibility with those who agree with her. You can’t have it both ways. If she didn’t want the attention, then she could have just said NO.
No, Palin didn’t decide to release the information to counter the rumors about Trig from those meany left-wing bloggers. Palin decided to release the story because the Enquirer had informed her that they had the story and they were going to run with it. Palin released her side of the story as a pre-emptive strike so that she could put her own positive spin on it and blame those horrible meany bloggers. Because really, countering a rumor by tossing your own kid under the bus makes so much sense.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sarah_palin_at_war_with_her_daughter_over_pregnancy_wedding/celebrity/65370
Again. All she had to do was say no. She didn’t. She used her family, and still uses her family to prove how great she is, but no one can even look sidways at her misuse of her family. BS. She is out for her own political agenda and she doesn’t care who she hurts, sorry don’t buy the innocent mom act. She is just another corrupt politician who can’t tell the truth from her own reflection in the mirror.
Okay, so maybe this has already been said, because I do not have the time in my life to read all eight thousand posts, but before we all pity this poor boy for being cruelly forced into marriage– MAYBE HE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WHEN HE WAS HAVING THE SEX WITH YOUNG MS. PALIN. I, personally, am a little sick of the “poor baby daddy” business. Poor nothing! He got sex committment-free with a cute young thing with no baggage, and now he’s created a somewhat older, baggage-carrying young thing, with another young thing on board that inevitably will have baggage one way or another as well. How mean of that young thing’s parents to force him to face up to his committments.
I wouldn’t say commitment free. Even if it doesn’t work out, he’ll still 18-21 years of support to look forward to. Sounds like a damn big commitment to me!
The problem with this is teenagers and thinking — it doesn’t happen. As far as the kids go, what teenager can go against a governor that has been know to use the power of government against people who have “trespassed” against her family. That’s not who I want as a leader.
SO SAY WE ALL!
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Folks like you remind me of the days with my head in the idealistic clouds. Accidents like these happen all the time, regardless of age and publicity. And just as often as the father says he wants no part of it, the mother says she doesn’t want the father around anyway. Or, beyond that, the mother claims to want no part of it. It’s easy to say what we think they need to do when we haven’t lived it.
Yeh, and she got sex commitment-free as well. She just happened to get pregnant, but nobody is forcing her to keep it. She may have to live up to her mother’s pro-life image (even though she already ruined the encouraging-abstinence deal), but that doesn’t mean she can’t put it up for adoption.
Nobody should be trapped in someone else’s decision. Unless she made it clear before they hopped in the sack that she wanted to have his child, he has every right to his own personal choice. This was a couple of teenagers having near-meaningless sex.
What ultimately happens to the baby is up to Bristol (and her mother’s political agenda). But seeing as how they’re not married and had no prior plans to do so, he shouldn’t have to take responsibility for an accident, just because she doesn’t want to put it up for adoption. He won’t get to use the child as a tax deduction, nor will he get to live vicariously through the grandchild of a governor.
And forcing a marriage is just going to cause even more static in the family. High school and teenage couples rarely last beyond the early 20s, and if they’re forced to be together it’s that much worse. The only reason he needs to marry her now is if he cares about her mother’s political career. Otherwise, let them grow up for a few more years.
I’ve been called a lot of things, but I haven’t been called an idealist in about 30 years (+/-). He made a choice and he has to live with it. I agree he shouldn’t get married if he doesn’t want to, but this couple has more pressure on them than the average teenage unmarried pregnant pair, all because of her mother’s decision to enter into national politics. However, he is required to take responsibliity for the accident, he did so when he put decided to have sex.
I don’t think he was calling you an idealist. I think he was call Kelponia an idealist since that’s who he responded to. However the rest of your points are valid.
Thanks, my old eyes blur with all these crazy boxes. Mea culpa.
Okay, I’m not going to attack your opinions or anything, but I just want to point out one thing: “he shouldn’t have to take responsibility for an accident.” So if I accidentally kill someone while practicing as a doctor, I shouldn’t be responsible for that? If I accidentally call someone a bitch because I was thinking it but didn’t mean to say it (not implying you– I am aware that Erik is usually a masculine name…) I shouldn’t appologize? And since when is a baby “an accident”? That baby was accidentally concieved, but calling that child “an accident” is dehumanizing. YOU put a hand on a pregnant woman’s stomach and tell me that thing moving around in there is just the vagaries of an internal organ…especially when it moves away from your poke.
Epic burn!
Huh?
Epick non sequiter response to apparently nothing.
Abstinence-only fail. Wouldn’t have happened if they’d used a rubber or the pill, like civilized human beings with decent sex-ed.
Mutual masturbation for all!
Your mouth can’t get pregnant, and your tongue can’t knock her up. Oral FTW.
If we’re all getting off, we don’t really have time to blast each other to hell. Life needs more orgasms.
You DON’T have to get married in order to accept responsibility or be a good father/parent.
I believe this marriage is forced in the sense that the family view point is such- pro life, no premarital sex, etc. The view point is a little old fashioned, but is such – you knock up/get knocked up, you do the “right thing” and get married. Also, I do NOT believe this would have changed had Palin not been selected as the Republican VP candidate. I do believe it was made all the more worse for it, though.
Also, I’m with CF on this one. It just seems like Palin is putting herself and her country first, and her family last. My purest opinion, but if you choose to have a family and children, they come first until those kids are adults. It’s not just Bristol that is making me say this, but she has four kids that are under 18 and one has Down syndrome. With the media the way it is, I think this puts these kids in a tricky situation, and I don’t think it’s fair to the kids. Bristol and Levi are in a hard situation and now they are not allowed a chance to figure things out, and are going to be used by both sides (Dems & Reps) no matter what the outcome is.
I’m leaving it at this for now.
You watch–he’ll be on a cuckolding site in six months.
I kind of doubt this is a forced marriage, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Didn’t he have a Myspace page that said he didn’t want kids?
I think Palin is exploiting the kids and putting a lot of pressure on them. These kids are going to be in the spotlight now, whether they wanted to or not. Being in high school and pregnant is one of the worst things that can happen to a teenage girl. Having that news plastered all over the country and your mom parading you around like the poster child for good morals and values is even worse. The majority of teen marriages fail, and this marriage will be under a TON of pressure because of Palin’s “no sex before marriage” views. Now Palin wants to make herself look good because her unwed pregnant teen daughter didn’t get an abortion. Come on, lots of women don’t get abortions. That doesn’t make them better than everyone else.
I don’t really feel sorry for Bristol and Levi because Bristol got pregnant. I feel sorry for them because they are being forced into the public spotlight, whether they like it or not. Due to Sarah Palin’s political beliefs, they will probably be under even more pressure because if they go something wrong, Sarah Palin will be totally blamed. And if you see videos and pictures of political conventions and such, Bristol and Levi look a little freaked out in many of them.
Palin is not winning any votes by forcing her daughter, through pro-life brainwashing now or earlier in life, to have a child. The same pro-life crowd that McCain already had in the bag now has an ill-timed reason to worry about Palin’s supposed family values. How can dividing ones attention among five children come off as anything but irresponsible breeding?
Next week’s/month’s prediction:
Sympathy vote for a miscarriage.
The political circus is a much more familial circus this year.
Break out the shotgun pa, we’re gonna’ have outselves a maridge!! ye ha!
Abstinence works! Teach it in a school today!
who r these ppl?