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OOps. The jokes have started.
Yeah, what’s up with that? This is a serious web site. Seriously. Who would joke about John McCain having the hots for his VPILF? He’s a man of honor who would never leave his current wife for some inexperienced hottie half her age. I mean, if he WERE that kind of guy, don’t you think there would be some evidence of it?
It’s too big, easy and obvious a target.
That’s all I’m sayin’!
AHAHAHAHAHA Yes it is! Especially after, at least, 4 healthy children.
I laughed aloud.
Cindy is not crippled … although she does seem to have broken her wrist … I wonder if that would allow for a fling?
Well, it would if she had cancer and John was a Democrat!
Apparently, Huey, you are not aware, or choose to forget that John McCain left his first wife, after she had become crippled, to marry Cindy, who he had been having an affair with for some time before he got divorced.
Conservatives do have situational ethics, after all.
Yup, but that’s OK. He wasn’t president at the time.
And he’s not now, and with any luck, he never will be.
True. Since he’s a republican it would have been a dude or a congressional page.
I really hope you are not refering to Cheney!
VPILF
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Ah, I see. You can make fun of the Republicans, but nearly identical jokes against the Democrats are off limits. How hypocritical.
Yes, for as any backLOL proves, no infidelity jokes have been made on this site regarding, say, Bill Clinton.
none have been made in regards to Obama’s inexperience, nor the fact that his “change” in picking a vice-president is to pick an old white guy, not exactly what “change” is supposed to stand for.
i believe that if we were to compare percentages, close to 95% would be pro-democrat on here as to what gets posted (of those that have a pro-democrat versus pro-republican only).
Oh, plenty get made, they just don’t garner the right number of votes.
(Now you’ll decry this whole site has such a strong bias while I have to look at those crap McCain ads everywhere…)
That’s odd, I haven’t seen one McCain ad. Is it regional?
Here is my theory. PK (and myspace too, I’m sure of it) *knows* your political leanings and only shows ads for the opposite candidate in an effort to piss you off. Now, this is based only on my own personal experience, but that’s gotta count for some scientific research, right?
Why is it that whenever you speak poo only comes out?
…or John Edwards.
I’d like to mark this LOL as offensive to librarians. HA! Now guess why!
This is just creepy.
I’m with you on that, gross.
My husband described her look as “a sexy librarian.”
She is a sexy librarian. But McCain’s wife is also hot for an older woman.
Let’s not forget to note that Obama’s wife is gorgeous AND brilliant!
She is proud to be an American for the first time, thats good. She cant hold a candle to Cindy
See what difference a deleted word makes, folks? Michelle’s original sentiment was that for the first time in her adult life, she was -really- proud to ve an American.
Incorrect. Source:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2008/02/18/will-media-ignore-michelle-obama-remark
“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country” – Michelle Obama
That is incorrect – no word was deleted. It wasn’t taken out of context, and there’s no way that you can defend against this quote. It was a dumb thing to say, and if my last comment gets through, you’ll have your URL source (I’m sure it needs to be approved for that reason… *sigh*).
Wow, citing blogs? Classy. You could work for Jerome Corsi.
Anyway, here’s a clip of Ms. Obama’s speech where she says (clearly): “…for the first time in my adult life, I’m really proud to be an American…” It’s even from the friggin’ O’Rielly Factor.
Check nad mate, my friend.
ummm… you do realize that there are two clips there, and she says it both ways.
Are you into necrophilia? Cindy McCain looks like the Crypt Keeper’s sister.
mmmm . . .crypt keeper
I loved all her dresses during the convention, very classy, and their daughters were so cute!
They’re probably both pregnant and on crack like their mom!
I think that you menat on crack like yourself.
that would be meant.
Stay classy, repubs!
Hey Bob, your dry cleaners called, they want you to pick up your white robes before the end of the month or they’re going to keep them. Don’t forget the hoods!
And she may have lost the campaign for her husband with her careless remarks! What a gal!
No, no… librarians sort books, Palin burns ‘em.
That is hyperbole. Palin talked with librarians about banning books, but she has her priorities. It took a lot of work to raise taxes on the oil industry, to fund payments to every Alaskan.
You’re correct, I was employing hyperbole. However, I wasn’t employing -much- hyperbole.
Technically, you were lying.
But then, lies are the only ammunition you Palin-haters have.
It’s really getting impossible not to mock you. You declare “lies are the only ammunition” we have, in the face of matters of public record.
Face the facts like a man.
where are they?(‘the facts’) I don’t see them…
Ewwwwwww I need brain bleach now.
What you said! Me, too!
Don’t hog it you two.
Yeah, we should’ve gotten the economy size.
Have you seen the Craig Fergussen video on VPILF? It is hysterical. ANd by the way it is not mean to poor little Sara so the repugs might also think it is amusing.
Craig Ferguson generally does a pretty good idea at shooting towards both sides, but not to a point where people dislike him. I’d vote for him to take over any of the prime-time Late Shows anyday.
I’d vote for him on his accent alone. Hawt.
Ew. Just…ew.
Tigh/Roslin ‘08!!!!!
OH GOD>> LOL!!!!!!
Shut this website down, imitation tofu just won it.
Airlocks for some, toasters for others! Do I smell write-in?
ACKSHULLYZ…stole.
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/147684.asp
So, Monica Guzman wins.
Oh yeah, I took it. Damn funny, had to pass it along. Now if I can only make it until January to see those last 10 episodes…
YES.
What will the human race do upon the brink of extinction? Thunder against the Cylons 08!!1
Right, thanks PK for the nice Sarah Palin day – all NEGATIVE lols! You could at least post one positive one and don’t tell me not enough votes because i don’t believe it. How about a Biden day??? Where is that?
It’s because Palin is a trainwreck on so many more levels than Biden.
Well, as far as winning an election, which this decision was completely about, Palin is a much better choice than that stodgy old bigmouth Biden was. She has generated much more excitement and if she does well tonight and at the debates McCain will win in a landslide.
I don’t really think McCain had many other viable alternatives. Palin has the potential to build a lot of hype for him so she is a good choice, that’s why the Democrats are attacking her so fiercely right out of the gate.
Short of talking Hillary into being his VP, which would have put Obama in a homeless shelter for the rest of his life, that is.
I thought that Lieberman would have been a good choice since it has that cross party appeal. Palin seemed to come outta nowhere.
Not if McCain is hoping to get defectors from the Dem’s. In that case, Lieberman would have driven them back into the fold. He’s pretty much a pariah at the moment. Now I may be off the mark, but from what I have read, Ol’ Joe isn’t very much liked in the Democratic Party since leaving like he did. If I’m wrong, someone please correct me.
I can’t see how Palin is going to attract dems who would have voted for Hilary Clinton.
I’m pretty sure they see her as an insult. See the “I solemnly swear” thread.
I don’t necessarily support McCain’s choice in Palin either. My point was, Lieberman wouldn’t have helped McCain’s bid for the White House.
Fair point, Lieberman wouldn’t have filled in any blanks, so to speak. Lieberman would be helpful if there were any doubt that the candidate would be a staunch backer of Israel, or unwilling to continue operations in the Middle East. McCain does not have these problems.
You are also correct in how democrats view Lieberman currently, I don’t think he’d pull any from across the aisle as it were. There were, however, many more women candidates that were better qualified and would have had a much better chance pulling the Hillary vote than Sarah Palin, IMO.
Lieberman is a dirty word in the Democratic fold. Still, he and Hil are very close on a lot of issues. If Hillary had wanted to destroy Obama entirely, she could have formed a third party and declared Holy Joe as her running mate. Of course, McCain would have won, leaving Hillary with no future in the Democratic Party, but Obama would have lost due to an even split on the left.
Ha, homeless shelter! I wouldn’t put it past his backers to toss him out with the trash if he doesn’t win…
Are you really claiming Palin as a viable alternative? The woman is a walking disaster from the word go! She’s under an ethics investigation, she’s a fundie nightmare, linked to a secessionist party, almost enough experience to be an assistant manager at McDonalds, and loath as I am to bring the children into it there’s that whole fiasco, and you think she’s viable?? What, was Dan Quayle not available?
You have to think like a repug, n8. That is, don’t think. Just believe really, really hard, and repeat yourself loudly, again and again. They think that if they keep saying that she’s awesome, everyone will believe it. If they keep saying she’s going to steal Hillary voters from the dems, why, that’s exactly what will happen. They call it faith. See, they think God is on their side and if they just pray enough, He will smite us heathens and deliver America to the bible thumpers.
Ow… I have a headache now. Thanks a ton, Seth.
McCain/Tits’08
The three biggest partisans on the left in ONE THREAD! Now you guys can all agree with each other and be happy that you never have to see another dissenting opinion. Since those are bad.
I wouldn’t consider myself a true partisan, since I recognize and admit the flaws on my chosen side. Witness my earlier remark about Pelosi, for example.
A true partisan doesn’t admit there’s anything wrong with his side. I prefer to think of myself as a fair-minded independent aligned, for the moment, with the left.
Careful then, you may not get to sit at the same table with Seth and Jellybot and join in with them in flinging food and feces back and forth with Evil Pundit.
I suppose I can play the part, if it means I get to partake in the flinging. I’d hate to miss out!
I welcome dissenting opinions, when voiced by intelligent people who are themselves open to real discussion. Don’t pretend that is what you are.
Point me to the real discussion portion of the site and I will contribute gladly. The problem will be that I probably agree with you on the issues, but not on the proper choice of candidate, so our discussion will be rather short.
n8
Get your facts straight. Sarah Palin is going to be the next vice-president of the United States. If Barack Obama, a talking disaster, can become President without any experience whatsoever, then the Governor ELECT of Alaska, a WOMAN who is in charge of a $11 billion dollar operating budget and 25,000 employees, can be vice president. One more thing, there is nothing wrong with her family. Teenagers do get pregnant but at least she isn’t having an abortion. Oh wait, that is what the dems want her to do. The Quayle reference leads me to believe that you are an old fart and we all know that many marriages began due to a opps pregnancy in your generation. Sadly, you are the type of man who makes a woman wish that YOUR mother had aborted you.
Wow, a torrent of vile abuse, unfounded assumptions, and general ignorance. How is it that I am not immediately swayed to your point of view?
Ah well. “Old” is in the eye of the beholder, but I don’t think I qualify, unless you’re still in high school. In which case, get back to class. It’s obvious you’ve got some learning yet to do.
Don’t forget the unmitigated neo-con hatred.
It’s not that they want her to have an abortion. It’s that her mother took sex
education out of schools, and then SURPRISE! her daughter got pregnant.
Funny how that works.
Actually, abstinence-only is still sex education. It’s just not the type of sex education people agree with. Just pointing out the distinction.
And does comprehensive sex education bring the pregnancy rate down to zero? And if Sarah Palin did believe in comprehensive sex education, that would mean her daughter would NOT be pregnant? How can you know that?
Abstinence only education is RELIGIOUS based and thus unconstitutional to teach in public schools. Besides that, it is a lack of sex education because it does not teach anything about sex beyond SEX BAD SAVE FOR MARRIAGE GOD SAYS SO.
Wrong, it’s more like: SEX GOOD SAVE FOR MARRAIGE GOD SAYS SO. Get it right please.
I think Kay Bailey Hutchinson or Codi Rice would have been excellent choices for McCain if he decided he needed a woman on the ticket. Palin is an insult.
Actually Obama should have gone with Nader, then they would have been the Obama/Nader ‘08 ticket! The Obamanader campaigne
Oh my God, I LOVE the term Obamanader!
Ema, that’s a WIN!
LOL! That was great!!
That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen on this site in a loooong time!! Thanks Ema!
That would have won votes just based on how cool it sounds.
Ok, that’s pretty funny!
Where to start? So far we have pro creationism, interest in censoring books, made questionable decisions while pregnant, abused her authority to get someone fired, and all around inexperienced. Oh, and a knocked up, underaged daughter who was drinking at 15. So many lols, so little time.
FFS! Can’t we leave the daughter out of this? If you want to bash her for lack of experience, fine. But the girl is 17 and made her OWN decision. How can you hold that against Palin?
Questionable parenting?
Really? So now parents are to be help responsible for their kid’s f*ck ups? Don’t tell MY kids, who knows what hooliganism they will get up to make me look bad. Your train of thought has left the station.
I think what lol means is she should have just given her a condom at age 12 and said go at it!
Oh come on Ema! Telling a child what a condom is and how to use it, along with making sure your child is fully educated on STDs, the reality of pregnancy and giving birth, as well as the reliability of ALL forms of contraceptives so that they can make an INFORMED choice (since all of you are harping on the fact that it is the kid’s choice) is not the same as telling your kid to go have sex!
Ramen to that!
See, this is the kind of logic I’d expect from someone who wikis everything instead of using their brain.
Instead she gave her no condom and now she’s 17, unwed and knocked up. Way to go! Is that what you want, Ema?
Tell me you’re being sarcastic. Please, tell me you’re being sarcastic. Yes, parents are entirely responsible for their childrens’ fuggups. If a person’s children grow up to be criminals, hooligans, bums, etc., it generally indicates a failure of upbringing.
Don’t ever run for office, ok? When does parenting stop and personal responsibility kick in?
One answer would be “when you reach your majority”, that is, turn 18. Bristol hasn’t passed that marker yet.
Another answer would be that everything you ever do will reflect on your upbringing.
In a legal sense, you’re correct. We’re talking moral responsibility here. The girl should know the difference between right and wrong by the time she reached 12 or 13. And in this day and age, you can’t possibly get me to believe that she never heard of contraception, in ANY form.
And who is supposed to teach her the difference between right and wrong? Her parents? Ding ding!
*sigh* I still say people are raising the parenting bar a bit high in Palin’s case. She’s human, not perfect! Of course she probably makes mistakes, but really, is the daughter NOT responsible in any of this?
Like I said before, I think Palin is somewhat responsible if she taught her abstinence only. My parents tried their damndest to get me to be their clones, but in the end I made my own decision. I wouldn’t say that was their fault that I turned out the way I did, but I would say they are partially responsible for a few gut wrenching moments of waiting to see how some tests came back..
Have I mentioned how much I love the Dude lately?
Oh, Jane, the dude loves you back.
Of course the daughter has responsibility. But you’re trying to completely absolve Palin of the actions of her underage daughter. Ain’t going to fly, sorry.
It wouldn’t be such an issue if Mommy Dearest was out fighting on an abstinence-only program in schools, where the sheer mention of sex and its hazards (babies, STDs) is considered “filth”… or if she hadn’t slashed funding for covenant houses for teen mothers… or tried to eradicate rehab programs in the same…
It’d be as bad as her running a strict anti-drug campaign, only to have the number of meth labs in her town increase over five times. Oh, wait, they did…
The kid goofed up. But she’s a kid for crying out loud. And as Obama said, Family is off limits.
It is likely that Palin taught Bristol abstinence only, and that could be partially the cause for Bristol being pregnant now. But then again, what child doesn’t rebel against their parents every now and then.
There is also a huge factor we’re leaving out here, Bristol’s BF (Who I think they are too young to have made the decision to get married, and I a seriously doubt that it was entirely their decision) In the heat of the moment, (and sometimes with a bit of social lubricant) people do things that they KNOW are wrong. Beleive me, I’ve done things while drunk that I would not have done sober. Am I saying alcohol was involved here? No, I beleive and hope that it was not a factor. But what I’m saying is it only takes one slip up, one act of rebellion, one mistake.
Do not take this as defense of Palin’s qualifications to be VP, I do not beleive she is ready to fulfill that role, especially since she didn’t even know what the VP’s job was until recently (For the uninformed, the VP’s job is to prevent disruptions of the space time continuum.) She has made poor judgement calls. She has no national experience. She is against the seperation of church and state. She is pro censorship. She has plenty of faults that we can focus on without bringing her family into it.
(Murder’s not working, and it’s the only thing we’re good at.)
Aww crap herb, is that from the same episode? I know I’ve heard that line before.
You aren’t a parent are you? Despite best efforts, people have minds and wills of their own and you cannot enforce yours upon them. Often times the harder you try to control them, the more they rebel.
As far as pregnancy goes… all that takes is getting a little too drunk one night. It hardly says anything about a persons character. Ragging on her for the behavior of her kids should be totally off limits. Your precious Obama said as much. Are you saying he was wrong? Or are you just admitting that he was saying that to save face, and he doesn’t really believe that.
Unless someone can show how she has been a bad parent, I think it should be dropped. Good parents still have bad kids sometimes, and getting pregnant at 17 is far from uncommon or a sign of long term problems. It just takes one poor decision out of millions.
You’re getting a little personal there. But no, I’m not, and it is precisely because of the high standards that I have for parenting. I’m not ready to do it right, so I’m not going to do it. I wish more people would hold off on having kids, because they are obviously not doing it right.
I apologize if that was a bit too personal, but short of actually having kids, or being a professional with a lot of kid experience, it’s very hard to formulate an educated opinion on the subject. The problem is that without that experience, the opinion is purely academic, and not based on the realities of raising a child. Some children are just very willfull, and you’d have better luck controlling me, than you would such a kid. Short of chaining them up in a room, there’s nothing you can do to prevent them from making mistakes. You can punish them when they do make mistakes, but you cannot make them learn from their punishment.
A little too drunk when you’re underage?
You are such an asshole, lolnathan. Do you walk around with big, special toilet paper?
How do explain bothers from the same family where one of them ends up a mass murderer while the others go on to be successful members of society? Look at the unibomber guy? forget his name, his brother actually turned him in.
You’re really reaching, now. My point is this: if your teenage daughter winds up pregnant, you have almost certainly failed in your duty to see that she is educated with regards to sex. This is true whether you believe that abstinence is the answer, or that birth control is the answer. In either case you have failed, because the kid obviously had sex, and obviously did not use sufficient birth control (unless the condom broke, in that case you’re just out of luck.)
The only way a teen pregnancy can reflect good parenting is if you believe teen pregnancies are good and encouraged the daughter to have one.
Wrong again, if you educate all your children the same way and one of them does not follow the advise given you are not at fault.
Bull. You assume that all your children would be the same. Could be that one is getting picked on, or is looking at different stuff on the Internet. Your child is your responsibility. If one child among any number of siblings turns out wrong, then the parent did not do a good job of reaching that one sibling and instilling their values. If you take it upon yourself (and this means anyone) to bring a child into this world, then whatever that child does in their life is your doing, because had you not brought them into this world, it wouldn’t have happened.
C’mon repubs. Show some responsibility. You harp on it enough.
You really, actually believe that? I mean, that almost sounds like satire it’s so ridiculous. C’mon yourself. Parents can’t always control their kids. Upbringing or not, everyone has their own morals and beliefs framed around more than just what mommy and daddy told them.
What you call satire repubs and focus on the family nuts have been parroting for years.
If you educate your children as clones you suck as a parent.
Ok ,well feel free to hold that thought and let us know how it works for you when your kids do something completely boneheaded. Then tell me you will go on National TV and say you were a bad parent, ok? I’m lucky in that my boys never did anything that I would be ashamed of. Of course, they’re only in their 20’s so they have a long hard road trying to live up to my standards until I cark it.
And if they don’t live up to your standards, then what? Do you feel no responsibility? Or did you not try hard enough to instill those standards, and a sense of why they’re worth living up to?
Look, if I did ALL that I possibly could and they still go off the rails, how can I be held responsible? That is the problem with society today, it’s always someone else’s fault.
I thought the problem with society today was that parents didn’t take responsibility for their children. Blame schools, blame the TV, blame video games, never blame the parent.
Sure, some kids you just can’t reach. However, I think a responsible parent must always ask themselves, “what could I have done to prevent this.”
But I think we’re getting way off track, and I think I don’t want to subject poor Bristol to any more muck than is already being thrown at her. It must suck royally to be used as ammunition against your own mother.
It would have better parenting to deny the crown, so as to not have one’s daughter run through the mire.
Has it ever occurred to your pea size righteous brain of yours that Bristol is actually be proud of the fact that her mother was nominated to be the vice-president of the United States? And that this mother and this daughter love one other unconditionally? I am proud of the Palin’s family refusal to be embarrassed by their daughters pregnancy. The very fact that Bristol Palin was able to sit in public under the scrutiny of the entire world with dignity, class and composure says alot more about the quality of her upbringing than anything else. You can be negative on this family and this candidate but many young Americans, male and female, have found themselves in this same situation and went on to lead successful happy lives. Last time I looked, the democratic party took kind to votes from single unwed mothers.
Bristol Palin looks like she will be supported by a great family and caring, loving mother. She is better off than most of you.
I don’t think Sarah Palin’s daughter getting pregnant at 17 is a reflection of her parenting skills. I DO think it is a reflection of the failure of abstinance only education, which Sarah Palin supports and would be in a position to encourage implementation if she became Vice-President.
Actually it is a failure of Bristol to follow the abstinance only teachings, if that is what she was taught. I’m sure at her age she or her boyfriend knew about birth control. Even if you teach kids about BC they may or may not use it… Either way its a failure on the child to do what they should. If I had teenage children in this day and age I think I would go nuts trying to protect them!!
And even if they did use protection, that’s not exactly fool-proof. Seriously. I don’t think anyone wants to mention that possibility.
That is the flaw of Abstinence only education. They’re taught “Never have sex. Period. Ever. Unil you’re married” So they go out into the teenage world, with the mindset of following those teachings. Then they get into a situation where they will wind up having sex. Sure, you can say here all you want that “Oh, they should just say no at that point” But you know as well as I do that sometimes emotions take over and rational thought says “you know what, I’m sitting this one out”. But they get in the situation that will end in sex, and they’re not prepared for it. They haven’t been taught anything about safe sex, or contraception or any of that.
Here’s an analogy, just because I like analogies.
The only 100% certain way of never getting hurt in an automobile accident, is to never get into an automobile. But in case you wind up getting into an automobile anyway, you should know how to use the seatbelts.
I disagree. All it takes is forgetting to use a rubber one time, being irresponsible with birth control, or just getting a little too buzzed one night to get pregnant. I do agree that abstinence-only education is crap, but it isn’t the single cause of most teenage pregnancy, as you are implying here. Nearly all forms of birth control require some responsibility on the part of the kid. You can’t teach responsibility through anything but experience.
Really? Abstinence is crap? It should at least be offered as a solution, along with birth control. It is the only fool proof way to be safe from disease or unwanted pregnacies. Teenagers should be concentrating on school and getting into college, building foundations for their adult lives, not running around after each other but then that is what the media portrays to them as cool…
So far, ema, you state the opposite of what Palin stands for. She -doesn’t- want birth control available for anyone, abstinence taught to the -exclusion- of any other talk, anti-choice in -all- situations, for cutting -all- social welfare programs for the child that is now forced to be born… yet you still cheerlead for her. I don’t get it.
Read more carefully ema! Didn’t say abstinence was crap, I said abstinence-only education was crap. Kids should be given all the options, so that they are as protected as possible.
doh! reading comprehension fail on my part…
Let me see if I can explain my position a little more clearly. We as adults have a responsibility to give our children the tools and resources to make an INFORMED decision about sex and its consequences. If we don’t and our children get pregnant or contract an STD then the failure is on us. If we do and our children still decide to have sex and get pregnant or contract an STD than the failure is on them. Don’t get me wrong, children should be told, and told often that the only 100% method of avoiding pregnancy and STDs is abstinance, however knowing our children aren’t always going to make the best choices they should have the rest of the information too. As a teacher, I do not need Sarah Palin telling me that a full and comprehensive sex education program shouldn’t be taught in our schools when we see the results of an abstinance education in her own family. This in no way faults her parenting or her daughter for the decisions they have made. It DOES strike at the validity of an issues she supports.
No it makes Palin look bad because she was the one who took sex education out of schools.
Grrrr! that should be ‘held’ not ‘help’.. *sigh*
‘Cause it’s all in now, baby! Everything’s on the table! Everything is up for mockery! If the right-wing blowhards can go on and on about Chelsea Clinton’s looks, then the left-wing blowhards can harp on Bristol Palin’s baby bump. If you can’t take the heat, get outta the kitchen.
Ouch! I never said Chelsea was ugly (although I know a few on here have said as much.) Personally, I think she’s good looking young woman and would be proud to have her on my arm if she was my daughter. I just hope she doesn’t turn out like mom and dad!
Not to argue, but I seriously missed out on that one. O_o
Nor do I really think she’s “ugly” per se.
Either way, to harp on one or the other is bad mojo.
And will bring bad karma down upon your head! Who knows, call one person’s child ugly and who knows what you may end up with?
Yeah, you might wind up with a kid like Megabob.
Can I get a kid like Megaman instead?
I hope so. I was honestly thinking the same think. So, maybe I should start calling other people’s kids Rock.
Or Roll if it’s a girl. And don’t forget Rush. I am such a geek.
We may just get along after all.
Ok, but don’t let the other libs know we’re hanging out. They’ll pick on me if they find out I have con friends.
You honestly believe that? Biden has many more years of experience of putting his foot in his mouth and his votes in the wrong place. The man is a walking legacy to all that is wrong with Congress. At least if Palin has made mistakes, it only effected the state of Alaska.
didn’t he say something about Obama being a “clean” candidate?? also wasn’t there something about convenience store workers all being East Indian? correct me if I’m wrong here…
So we should give her a larger sandbox to play in? After putting Wasilla into a $22 million dollar financial hole and running the state-owned Matanuska Maid Dairy into the ground? D’ya think?
It worked for 99% of the Members of Congress.
I’d have thought the ‘Couldn’t make this shit up’ one *was* positive – it’s not like they were trying to pass the photoshop off as reality, right? – perhaps my irony detector is too sensitive.
Supply and demand, Ema. That’s capitalism for ya!
Ok don’t come crying to me when they win the election because everyone feels sorry for her because she’s the victim of sexism. Not to be a party pooper, but this really is sexist.
Wait, people en masse are going to feel sorry for Palin because of this one picture on this one website and that’s how McCain/Palin are going to win? What reality are you in?
No, it’s the sexism of the media attacks and the Obamabots that will generate a backlash.
About time you got here.
I knew it was feeling way too intelligent in here.
Because everyone knows women can’t be taken seriously. They are only there to be sex objects.
What is this ? 1952?
I am so sick of this sexist attitude towards women of valor and substance.
Put up a Republican woman of valor and substance and maybe we’ll find out. Haven’t seen one yet.
Like Pelosi is a shining example.. God that woman makes me ill.
That woman makes us all ill.
That’s because you’re wilfully blind.
Nuh-uh, you are! (Fight fire with fire, as they say.)
As a democrat, I have to say my Gov Jodi Rell is quite the woman.
You go Sarah !We are behind you 1000 % !
These sexist pigs can go piss up a rope.
Wait, who is this “WE”? I’ve got tits and I’m not going anywhere NEAR that trainwreck.
Gotta love this. The Demo’s rail on people for being aloof and out of touch with America, but Palin has a son with Downs and a pregnant daughter and they are attacking her for it with impunity.
Probably 10% of the girls in my senior graduating class were pregnant or had a kid already, and a good HALF of the girls my freshman year of high school drank. Anyone criticizing her for the actions of her SEVENTEEN year old daughter has never had a child that age.
Well, Palin did say that if her daughter became pregnant as the result of a rape, he’d still make her have the baby.
I feel sorry for her kids.
What about criticizing her when her FIFTEEN year old daughter was drinking? Where’s your cutoff?
Glass houses. Throwing stones. She should know better.
My cutoff isn’t an age,but the answer to this question: Was she making a good faith effort to raise her child properly, and her child rebelled anyway? If so, then nothing the child does should reflect on her, period.
What mandates a good faith effort and how do you know that Palin made one?
Now how in the world could that question ever get answered? Do any of us live in that household?
That’s my point. If you want to make Palin out to be the 100% innocent one in this mess you have to prove that she made a good faith effort. Which you can’t.
Nor can you prove that she didn’t, so your question is invalidated by your own criteria.
But I’m not the one trying to convince others that Palin is innocent using a flawed argument, now am I?
Nobody is innocent, that’s a naive way to look at things. I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt however, when there is no way to reasonably prove otherwise. I know from experience that most often when a 17 year old gets pregnant, or a 15 year old drinks, the only way the parents could have stopped it is by locking them in the basement. You can preach till yer blue in the face but in the end it is the kids choice whether to make the right call. All you can do is make sure they know whats right and whats wrong.
or… they’re not used to white trash…
‘1000%’ just says it all, really, doesn’t it?
Why don’t we just say a google%? Or maybe even infinity%, how about that?
How about a googlefinity%? Does that work?
Hypercenterbole?
What exactly is she supporting? THe bottomline, conservatives don’t care about rerality…simply call youself a conservative, through out a few gratuatous statements and you are golden, no reality check, nothing.
Yeah I am a woman and I do not like her. I just graduated with one of my bachelors degrees in Women’s and Gender Studies, so it is safe to say I am a feminist. I would love to have a woman in office but I look into what the issues she believes are. I do not agree with hers. I am not sexist because I won’t vote for her, I am looking into more important things than just the sex of the candidate. This is not to say that I think Obama/Biden are a walk in the park either, there is no candidate that I like 100%, but you have to weigh out all the issues instead of looking at just one such as the gender of the candidate.
Sorry for repeating myself there.
Thank Luna, a feminist that I can actually stand!
What fraction is that?
I have made several LOL pics with POSITIVE SUPPORT for Sarah Palin.
NONE of them have been published. I guess the folks here have an agenda.
There is a definitely left-oriented bias on Pundit Kitchen. Anyone who says there isn’t is just blind.
There are two reasons for it. One is the fact that this site is part of the I Can Has Cheezburger network. Secondly, it’s a “Web 2.0″ site. Both of those types of things are predominantly left-aligned. I’m not sure who picks which photos get posted, but there is a definite bias.
People will say “Oh well if you want to see lols that are anti-left, then submit them!” They are getting submitted, but they aren’t making it to the front page.
Look back in the older pics. There are a ton of ‘lols’ that just aren’t funny whatsoever, they are just personal attacks with no humor value. Walking up and going “You’re an idiot!” isn’t really that funny, regardless of how true it may be.
But I only see pro-McCain ads. Odd.
I notice that, too.
It seems obvious that there’s just more to laugh at on the Republican ticket. It’s a comedy goldmine!
And here’s a reality check for you, they will never see the light of day unless you hyperlink your name so we can look at them. Until then, hold on to the dream that your LOL’s will get published. I have a few that were much better then the ant-Bush/anything GOP stuff that goes up that never even hit the voting page (oh, except once.. *sigh*)
Your “I’m going off the rails on a crazy train” lol is so funny!!
Thanks ema, my favorites are the “Born White with Polyester Style” and “See that? That’s your hope fading.” Oh well, I think the people would have gotten a laugh from a couple of them.
I love the hope fading one too, so many funny ones
umm … okie.
Not really
Oh, just look at from a Republican’s point of view, ok? I mean, I have seen lot’s of Bush/McCain LOL’s that had me absolutely rolling and got a WIN! from me. So while I may support McCain, I can still laugh at the LOL’s.
See, this is why Eddie is in my friends list. I hardly agree with anything that he’s said on this site. (A few exceptions) But I do agree with how he’s said it.
People like Megabob, or evil pundit, or any of the other inflamatory neo-cons, I have a serious dislike for them. But people like Eddie, I think of them more as friends that I just disagree with.
Btw Eddie, if you don’t vote for Obama, I’m TPing your house :p
Start saving them rolls of TP up now..
Oh, and money for the plane ticket. I hear it’s quite expensive to fly to Oz now..
It’s even more expensive to fly to Neverland…
No, you juat to believe..
WOW! My fingers disengaged from my brain on that one. I meant to say, “No, you just have to believe..”
Second star to the right and straight on till morning, don’t forget (I know how guys don’t like asking for directions)
Thanks Jane, I’ll write that down. And all I have to do to get to Oz is wait for a twister. Maybe I should wait near a trailer park.
Well… had you read the entire series you would know that there are many more ways to get to Oz. The main problem is crossing the deadly desert that surrounds it on all four sides. It’s a lot like trying to get to Iraq for a vacation, really.
Just no IEDs in Oz. I have been wanting to read the series for a while though. Is it commonly available at bookstores or do you have to do a bit of hunting for it.
By the way, thanks for that Kurt.
This momentary lapse in judgement (on both sides) was brought to you by Mylanta. When heartburn over trivial crap is too much, take Mylanta!
Lapse in judgement? What a lib and a con being friendly towards each other? Reminds me of the line from the first Ghostbusters “Cats and dogs, living together… MASS HYSTERIA!!
And who would ever have imagined!! I came across this and I think it pretty much describes my political philosohy perfectly, a Moderate Republican. Read on and let me know what you think:
A passion for civil liberties;
A disdain for conformity and suspicion of authority;
A belief that the Constitution is a living, breathing document with timeless values that must be made relevant in a modern age;
A commitment to protect the environment and not engage in mindless exploitation of the nation’s natural beauty. A spirited case must be made for reusable energy sources like solar power. Modern technology provides many options before the earth is harshly, brutally, and needlessly pillaged.
A strong belief that diversity — gender, racial, social, sexual, ethnic, and religious — should be celebrated because it gives the United States moral strength. Diversity — in the long-term, encourages respect, understanding, and a greater sense of community;
A commitment to fiscal prudence and limited government;
A recognition that government does have a basic social responsibility to help those in need;
A belief that the nation does have international responsibilities;
A belief that God and religion have a very important place in America — at the dinner table and in churches, temples, and mosques. But it should never be used by politicians to advance a narrow moral agenda;
A belief that the national government should be used in a limited manner to advance the common good;
A commitment never to put party above country; and
A responsibility to publicly criticize those who call themselves Republican when the situation merits. Moderate/Progressives have a duty to vote against the party line when it doesn’t serve the greater good. Doing so doesn’t make them less Republican; it demonstrates that they have the honor, political courage, and intellectual honesty to put nation above party.
A passion for civil liberties;
Agree
A disdain for conformity and suspicion of authority;
FTW!!! Conformity is for the weak minded, and authority is just one more tool that can be abused.
A belief that the Constitution is a living, breathing document with timeless values that must be made relevant in a modern age;
Agree
A commitment to protect the environment and not engage in mindless exploitation of the nation’s natural beauty. A spirited case must be made for reusable energy sources like solar power. Modern technology provides many options before the earth is harshly, brutally, and needlessly pillaged.
Uber agree, Part of my religion is that I actually ‘worship’ nature, and beleive the Earth itself is a living, sentient entity. (Gaia, among other names)
A strong belief that diversity — gender, racial, social, sexual, ethnic, and religious — should be celebrated because it gives the United States moral strength. Diversity — in the long-term, encourages respect, understanding, and a greater sense of community;
Definitely. What fun would it be if everyone were the same.
A commitment to fiscal prudence and limited government;
fiscal prudence on gov’s part or peoples?
A recognition that government does have a basic social responsibility to help those in need;
Without a doubt.
A belief that the nation does have international responsibilities;
Too an extent. We should act if we’re called on to help, or are directly threatened.
A belief that God and religion have a very important place in America — at the dinner table and in churches, temples, and mosques. But it should never be used by politicians to advance a narrow moral agenda;
Disagree. To name one religion as the ‘official’ religion is to negate other religions.
A belief that the national government should be used in a limited manner to advance the common good;
National gov should be used to give people the means to help themselves
A commitment never to put party above country;
Definitely. I actually disagree with the 2 party system.
and
A responsibility to publicly criticize those who call themselves Republican when the situation merits. Moderate/Progressives have a duty to vote against the party line when it doesn’t serve the greater good. Doing so doesn’t make them less Republican; it demonstrates that they have the honor, political courage, and intellectual honesty to put nation above party.
Don’t vote your party, vote your heart.
That must have taken a lot of thought to come up with.
I bet you must be proud of yourself for contributing so much to the discussion.
Or maybe they just aren’t very funny?
now even my comments are not going thru
this one did… keep trying
Links and profanity catch the filter’s attention. Keep it clean and text-only and you should see your comments instantly.
trying this link
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/3/carepackageur128649408471194884.jpg
Hahah! Now that is a lol. See people? Its possible to make a lol about a woman without stooping into the sexual gutter.
You think? Seemed to be implying that Palin was the “package”. That’s definitely sexual. Though I have to admit, I’d sign for that package. Just not for VP.
Sexual, but no gutter involved. Definitely tasteful. No dirty librarians for example, or photoshopped swim suit pics. Obviously sex is a really big part of humor, but it doesn’t have to be tasteless and dirty.
How is that Lol?
Sorry, not even a “heh”
Because it’s a funny caption on a picture. I’m sorry that your idea of what a “lol” is has been twisted by years of partisan hackery, but in the real world humor doesn’t involve mega-partisan personal attacks. You must be a sad, sad person in real life. A real bummer to be around for sure.
*sob*
I am a broken woman because of your scathing internet retort about my sad life.
I can make the same claims about you if you find that caption to be funny. At the most it was mildly (very) smile worthy but all it really looked like was one of those slide shows of firefighters and kittens and angels that make the rounds and fill my junk mail with captions like: America’s Heroes, Angels Among Us, Open Your Heart … sappy and crappy and usually attached to a tag line telling you to forward it to 20 people or your spleen will implode.
Oh, before you ask – I have nothing but respect for firefighters … and kittens
Good. If you dis’ the kitty, you don’t want to know what I will do to you.
what about firefighting kittens?
Do you not visit the other sites in the ICHC network? The ” ur doin it rite/rong” thing is very common. It’s more funny for anyone who views the other sites. Personally I regularly visit all the sites because I just love a light hearted laugh and with the exception of PK and Failblog, they have them in abundance. So these kinds of references are particularly amusing to me. Just because something isn’t hateful and offensive doesn’t make it unfunny. I’m sorry that you do not like positive pictures. You might want to look inside and see why that is.
Walking up to someone and calling them an idiot isn’t funny.
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Saying their lives must suck is though!
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Your life must suck, your parents probably beat you, You must be a fat single unhappy man in your mom’s basement eating cheetos and drowning your sorrow in Mountain Dew while peeing in a soda bottle so you don’t miss a second of PK.
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You are right, that was funny!
Hey!!! That crack about the soda bottle was over the line!
What passes as an acceptable comment, and deserving of a place on the front page of this site are two different things. You are welcome to your opinion of me, but if you tried to make a LOL about it, it would never see the light of day.
Until I join the Republican party and/or become famous. Then it’ll get posted in about 30 seconds flat.
I’m sorry if I did that too fast … Your comment above was that calling people names isn’t funny. Yet you always call me names (I feel honored by your attention really I do)
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So then I called you some names, see what happened there?
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So now, we have you being kind of a hypocrite and me being kind of a bitch, isn’t the world a lovely place?
I never said calling people names was inappropriate, I said it wasn’t funny. That’s not hypocrisy, because I wasn’t trying to be funny. I see the point you are trying to make, but it’s not valid.
For those of you whining about this slamming the Republicans – what do YOU think should be captioned? This picture was just ripe for this sort of caption…try doing something pro-republican with it. Even then, will it actually be funny? If you want to make lame support pictures, buy your own webspace/blogspace or something rather than subjecting everyone to what may be your unfunny opinion.
I’m not whining.
Keep up the sexist attacks on Palin. She will get sympathy from voters.
Man EP, that’s what I don’t understand at all. This is going to backfire big time. Democrats snagged a lot of female voters with Obama since he is a younger guy, and the Hillary supporters who feel obligated to go with Obama. This is only going to chase them away. My thinking is that they feel they will come out ahead if they trade women voters for old diehard sexists who wont vote for McCain because his VP pick is (insert some bass ackwards PMS joke here) I dont think that will work, but I could be wrong.
Palin is pandering to the Hilary voters and as such it is an insult to think she will take any Dems.
Her views are completely polar opposites from Hilary’s and therefore a Dem vote for Palin is no more than a vote for her vajayjay. It would not be for the ticket or the candidates, it would be only for the naughty bits.
Add to this all the bad stuff in her closet – Firing nearly everyone when she took mayoral office, discussing book censorship then firing the librarian who said no … firing the guy who refused to fire her B-I-L (though the B-I-L did deserve to be fired) etc etc …
This was a dumb, crazy, idiotic pick and I am constantly amused by the lengths you guys are going to make her look like a reasonable choice.
Perhaps you are swayed by the Vajayjay?
McCain/Tits ‘08!
I prefer the term “Token Vagina”
Just about any politician who has has executive power is going to have this same kind of dirty laundry. It’s just politics. If you’d take your partisan glasses off for half a freaking second you’d realize that the only reason no ones dug up anything on the other candidates regarding executive decisions is because.. oh yeah… they’ve NEVER been in a position to make any. Yet consistently governors get elected over Senators, despite having far more skeletons in their closet.
It’s simply a matter of making more decisions. The more you make, the more that are going to be bad, or at least look bad. It’s easy to say someone always does the right thing, when they’ve never had to do anything at all.
Look, you have talk of censorship here and a fired librarian. This is against some of the basic principles of this country.
You have someone wanting to get rid of that whole church/state separation and bring the bible into science class.
You have calls to drill in ANWAR.
I don’t think it is partisan glasses making me so scared this ticket will win.
Did you see the article about GOP backing off ANWAR until after the election “when they have a chance to really go after McCain” with her in the whitehouse with him the ANWAR doesn’t stand a chance.
Forget the kid, forget the irresponsible flights, Let’s talk about fired librarians and national preserves.
You’re not going to sway conservatives by appealing to conservationist sentiment. Republicans want the ANWR opened to drilling, so protesting their VP candidate on those grounds is only going to make them like her more.
Come to think of it, protesting her for being a bible-thumper isn’t going to work any better. It’s like saying “she’s a Republican!” Their response will be, “yeah, so are we!”
LOL! Great post. That made my day. You just highlighted something extremely important. When some partisan goofball spends all their time “preaching to the choir”, they lose their ability to sway anybody. It’s easy to talk big when everyone agrees with you.
You complain and complain and then do the same things yourself.
Really? Show me where I’ve supported a single Republican view. All I’ve done is criticize the forum antics of some people, who happen to be Democrats because they just happen to be the most populous here.
Show me where I’ve agreed once with, say, Evil Pundit, on an issue. Occasionally he’ll say something amusing, or true, which gets overlooked because he’s so radical outspoken right-wing.
Evil Pundit is not radical outspoken right-wing, he’s just a dickhead.
You may or may not agree with EP, but the fact is, like everyone else he is entitled to his opinion. You call him dickhead (your opinion), I call you wankstain (my opinion). See how that works?
My opinion is that you two are acting like little boys in a sandbox fighting over who gets the blue dump truck. In other words, completely immature.
Jenna, Eddie is just proving a point. And face it, Wankstain is pretty funny.
I am not trying to convince Repugs, I am trying to be sure those disenfranchised Hilary-ites actually pay attention to some issues rather than voting Vajayjay like the PUMA people want.
She doesn’t deserve sympathy. She deserves to be fired for abuse of her powers in Alaska and then she deserves to be forgotten.
I can’t decide who is the most die-hard leftist partisan on this site. Seth or jellybeans. Obviously EP is the most partisan right-wing guy, but you lefties really have a competition going on.
She’ll be forgotten after November.
even if they win she will be pushed aside in November. She is just filling a hole in the ticket … no pun intended
They’re not sexist just because you claim they are. Of all the lines of attack available for targetting on Palin, not one of them involves making fun of her for being a woman.
I disagree. But in the end it doesn’t matter if it’s actually sexist or not, its the appearance of sexism which is damaging. If people feel offended or upset, they are less likely to vote for Obama now. It’s not about logical thinking, so little is, really. It’s about feelings. It shouldn’t be, but that’s how it is.
What then, it’s “Don’t pick on the girl” ? That’s the most sexist strategy of all. It’s as if you’re saying to go easy on her because she’s a girl and thus can’t take it.
I’m sure she could care less what a bunch of morons pundits say about her, but yeah, the WISE choice would be to not pick on her. I’m not saying I know what the Democrats should do, obviously they need to counter the addition of young, attractive, inexperienced VP candidate with something. But they have to be careful given the realities of the situation. They especially need to be careful about playing the “inexperience” card against her. It isn’t sexist, but given that Obama has even less Presidentially-applicable experience than Palin, it will make them look bad. At least the Republitrons only put up the inexperienced candidate as VP.
Hear, hear!
I will have to say I agree somewhat with Lolnathan on this one. Our PK debate aside (because really, not like we’re winning any elections here) there is a very fine line to walk. Although I don’t feel that bringing up some of the issues we’ve talked about here is the same as attacking her family, a lot of working moms aren’t necessarily going to see it that way. Attack too much and people will want to defend her, not enough and the press goes soft on her. As poor a choice as I think she may be, I’m not real sure how the democrats should play this one.
So let’s ignore the tits and concentrate on the power abuse and censorship and the whole anti-women’s rights thingies.
I like the logic that she’s going to win over a bunch of ticked-off feminists by dictating what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. The repubs think they can woo women by putting a barely capable woman on the ticket. Want someone with competent executive experience? Why not pick Condi?
See, it’s only okay to exploit her sexuality if you’re a righty. Why are there captionable pics of Palin in a bikini holding a rifle? Why is there a VPILF site?
its a photoshopped picture, you could do the same with any other candidate.
Mea culpa. I checked this site before Snopes.
After listening to some of the press I’m just expressing my worry that we may be between a rock and a hard place with Sarah Palin. McCain just very well might be an undiscovered genius because it is going to be hard to disagree with her without looking like you’re attacking working moms, but we can’t leave her along because then they’ll skate in on her perkiness.
alone, not along, what the hell is wrong with me tonight?
Jane, you ignorant slut!
You’re right, I forgot! That’s what’s wrong with me!
Really it’s not about sexist attacks generating sympathy or getting the Hillary vote, it’s about identification with the most voters. The more people who identify with her values the more will vote for McCain, that is what he is banking on and I think it will work for him if there are no other screw ups.
Gun toting throw backs to puritanical ages … God knows they are not thin on the ground
We live in a democracy and the majority rules whether you like them or not, democrats need to think about that. The country isn’t impressed with their far left leaning radical socialist picks. Why can’t they see that?? Why didn’t they choose better? They didn’t have to go so far with Obama, what were they thinking? This was their election to lose, too bad.
McCain didn’t have to go this far right either now did he?
Palin opposes Birth control even for married couples. She opposes abortion for rape and incest. She opposes abortion if the mother’s health is at risk. She opposes it if the child’s health is compromised. Sorry, not everyone can care for a very ill child and what kind of life would that child have? (I am not meaning Downs Syndrome, DS people have very fulfilling lives but what about a child that will live less than 5 years in constant pain and agony that destroys the parents’ marriage and depletes savings? It happens) Palin supports teaching religion as science and removing science from sex ed. She is all for censorship of books in public libraries and she is gung-ho on drilling in parks and preserves.
Well then if she *really* believes all that she may just barely even out with all the left wing dems in Washington right now who wont allow ANY compromise on abortion and who are after gun ownership rights and don’t want to drill for the oil we so desperately need and wont even look at nuclear energy. Really democrats are looking really really bad to the country right now. She wont be able to change anything single handedly and I don’t think she would even be able to, I wouldn’t support absolutely no abortion rights. It is what she represents to the country that is what matters right now.
wow, I really mangled the grammar in that post…
Given that three Supreme Court seats are likely to open up soon, and both McCain and Palin swear to see Roe v. Wade overturned, yeah I’m going to drive these points home.
Where us nasty boogeymen liberals want to ensure that people have the right choose (and hopefully choose what is best for them), you glorious repubs want all personal liberty stripped down: you wish to tell women that they have no options, they must have that baby regardless — hope you weren’t expecting any help with that baby we’re making you have! — you wish to tell us what books we can read; whose god to worship; who we are allowed to love and who may accompany us in the back of an ambulance…
I’m curious how often Palin has spoken to young girls pregnant with their brothers. I’ve met one, who had to have the child because her family had the same anti-choice stance as the wannabe-VP. Anyone know how often she sat in with a couple who are pregnant with a baby with hypoplastic nephregenisis and told them how, though their baby -will- die, they must have it (and the resultant $35,000 hospital bill) rather than any other safe, quick alternatives.
How many abortions are enough? 2, 3, 10, 20? There are absolutely no limits, why can’t we have any comprimise on this issue? Why do babies who are still alive after abortions have to be left to die when they could have just as easily be kept a live? This is something Obama has voted against. How aborting babies in the final trimester? Why not just have them and throw them against a wall!! There has to be some middle ground here for our country.
The only possible compromise on the abortion issue would be letting women make their own decisions about their own bodies. Those that choose abortion can do so. Those that choose full term pregnancy can do so.
*gasp* Oh the HORROR!! Then people would have to… (ohdeargod)… -THINK FOR THEMSELVES!!!
But that hasn’t been done since the invention of government!
Well, you’re sort of missing the point of the debate. Proponents of banning abortion believe that women are making decisions about their child, not just their own body, so your argument would be unconvincing to most of them probably.
Let me remind you that there is ALWAYS a choice. A pregnant woman can always choose to throw herself down the stairs, or go poking around with a coathanger. The issue is safety for the woman who chooses to abort. She should have the benefit of competent medical help.
Paraphrasing n8: outlawing abortion will not end it. The difference between the 8 million abortions since Roe V Wade and the 8 million abortions in the thirty years prior to RvW is the number of young woman who died as a result.
Oh I agree, but if someone relies strictly on the “its her body she can do whatever she wants” argument, they will be shot down easily. Better to actually state facts, like the safety issue, than rely on a one-liner catchphrase.
While I do think the “It’s her choice” argument holds a fair amount of water – it really IS much safer to go about it this way. The number of abortions won’t change, as has been said already. The problem is getting people to choose abstinence AND use protection more/correctly. But that is just as unlikely to happen, so why not leave the abortion issue as it is and let the woman decide for herself – ESPECIALLY since there are limits on when it can be aborted, anyway.
How will the concept that women should have freedom over their own bodies be shot down easily?
Because their bodies are also carrying a child, so it’s not just their bodies.
There is also a father too you know.
Yes, let’s force women to be walking incubators!
So a mass of cells has more rights than a woman?
Apparently. But only if they’re inside a woman. Fertilized embryoes are destroyed by the thousands, but it’s for a good cause — making more rich people.
(It’s not so much as women should told what they can and cannot think or feel or do that pisses me off.)
Look, go ahead and jeer, like I said before I am not against abortion to some extent, I don’t think it should be encouraged. We are promoting a culture of death in this country, and who do you think are actually having all the children of the future? Muslim populations are outproducing us in that area and will soon overtake us as well as Mexican populations who are highly conservative and family oriented. How do you think Roe/Wade will stand up when more conservative candidates start to get voted into office by majority muslim and conservative Catholic populations in the not to distant future? Pro abortion Americans are aborting themselves out of existance.
“Yes, let’s force women to be walking incubators!” – no one forces women to be walking incubators, they are by nature – its one of the miracles of nature
*sigh*
We’re not pro-abortion; we are pro- -safe- and -legal- abortions. And if are to be bred out of existence, so be it, eh?
So white Christians need to have fewer abortions otherwise those scary Muslims and Mexicans will outbreed them. Wow, that’s effed up.
not scary to me, they are conservative and my values are a lot closer to what theirs are… but maybe you should be scared
You are talking about end cases anyway, those are NOT the norm.
Neither are babies left alive after abortions. Or aborting babies in the final trimester. Or throwing babies against the wall.
Just sayin’.
When are babies left alive after abortions? I’m honestly curious here.
I mean in the legal abortion sense, naturally. The same question holds true for the final trimester bit. That’s fairly illegal last I heard.
You can google Born Alive Infant Protection Act – it deals with babies actually born alive during an abortion. I have not read a ton about it yet so I don’t know how it actually happens but I do know that Obama voted against it because he thought it might threaten Roe/Wade. Why can’t we budge even an inch on some of these extreme abortions situations? I just can’t understand that. Is it worth leaving a live baby to die?
Maybe you should read more before spouting an opinion. It would make you look far less stupid.
McCain could follow that same advice…
duh – it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact
A hasty review of facts can lead to a poor decision.
I didn’t mean they actually throw them against a wall, that was an exaggeration on my part. I was just saying that in some cases with late term abortions the baby could actually live on it’s own.
what planet do you live on, ema? democrats are looking bad to the country right now? do you live in flippin’ canada or something? do you ever leave your house or turn on the teevee? democrats don’t look half as bad as the republicans. unless of course you’re deluded.
The Dems do look bad, the more the press shoves the Dem’s left wing socialism down our throats the worse they look. Case in point- Al Gore, Nancy Pelossi, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy, Barry Obama, etc. etc.
Superb negative straw-man! 30 bonus points!
Just read this today suggest others should check it out http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
Very nice link kaitlen.
Yay for the political fools! Clinging on every candidates word, picking it all apart and still spouting everything the party line dictates while truly getting promised nothing. You guys rock!
You rule my world XDDDDDDDDD
seriously, what’s with the ‘librarian’ thing?! that’s a total stereotype!
DJ-seriously? It’s a joke, it’s supposed to be funny. And just for the record, stereotypes are everywhere, and I’m sure you use them in your every day life all the time…maybe even unconsciously. Scary thought, huh? I’ll tell you what’s with the librarian thing…SHE LOOKS LIKE A FREAKIN LIBRARIAN. It’s a joke, get over your high and mighty self and just accept it. There are bigger things to complain about…please go find one
LOL~!