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“And now, young Skywalker… …you will die.”

(Hillary Clinton)

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  1. dude im on it says:

    … is there a Star Wars convention going on at PK?

  2. PortlandMark says:

    Speaking as a radical leftie Democrat…
    That’s pretty funny :)

  3. bittervoter says:

    Ha! I love the person who is coming up with all these star wars themed lols.
    And wow, that’s a massively unflattering picture of Hillary.

  4. fjaradvax says:

    I’m not fooled! That’s not Hillary, its ____ __ _____ in Drag!

  5. n8 says:

    I’d hit it.

    …with a nuke from orbit. *shudder*

  6. ema says:

    Poor Hillary, everyone deserves a bad picture every now and then. She fought a hard fight and deserves respect at least from her own party. I don’t agree with her politics but this is not right. The dems all hate her now cause she dared to challenge the messiah.

    • Jane St.Clair says:

      Ema, I like you a lot, but please don’t jump to conclusions. I was a Hillary supporter and I’ve not talked to a single democrat that thinks her run was anything but amazing. I still respect the hell out of her and will continue to do so, her speech at the convention was amazing. She and Obama campaigned hard and in the end he got more votes, that’s what democracy is all about. Not voting for Obama, or worse, voting for McCain would mean that you never supported Hillary at all, because her politics are almost the same as Obama with a few differences. I don’t feel that the democratic party has treated her unfairly at all. And let’s not forget, Hillary knows how to fight dirty when she wants to, she’s not an innocent victim by any means.

      • dude im on it says:

        I’m an Obama supporter and though it was kinda irritating when she held on at the end when her pulling the nomination seemed impossible, I completely understood it and didn’t like her any less. I respect her greatly! She did a great job at the convention.

      • bittervoter says:

        Hear hear! While I have my issues with Hillary, I respect her. She’s a brilliant and accomplished woman and there’s no denying that. I thought she made a great speech at the convention, and I agree that while the news media was sexist, the party did not treat her unfairly at all. As Jane said, she’s no innocent victim, she’s a tough lady who fought dirty herself.
        Those women who are voting for McCain because they think Hillary was slighted are making feminists look bad. They’re cutting off their nose to spite their faces.
        And please, would people give this messiah business a rest? Why are you so disturbed by people feeling excited and hopeful about the political process. None of us think Obama is perfect, but it’s great to see a great leader running for office again. A great leader inspires people to work hard themselves, and that’s what Obama does.

        • lowly grunt says:

          Bittervoter, you have my vote! ANd I hope you aren’t bitter anymore, either.

          NOW let’s talk about disrespect – PALIN for Vice President? Hillary worked her butt off for decades to achieve the highest office and Sarah Palin could get it simply for being pretty and willing. I think this is disrespectful of both Palin and Clinton.

          • dude im on it says:

            I mean, the only thing that makes sense about the choice is that she’s a woman. They raise such a fuss about Obama’s lack of experience, it seems like they’d avoid choosing a VP who’s that green.

            • bittervoter says:

              Agreed, it seems to me to be a calculatd attempt to win over “hillary supporters”, when she and Hillary are so different, I don’t see why any Hillary supporter would flocl to her.

              • jellybeans says:

                To some people all women are the same. Maybe she is their affirmative action pick?

                • Jane St.Clair says:

                  You mean McCain/Token ‘08? (My brother sent me a link to a bumper sticker that says that).

                  • jellybeans says:

                    Should say “McCain/Tits 08″ because that is all she is to him.

                    • Evil Pundit says:

                      You’re a real sexist.

                      • Kurt says:

                        He’s a sexist because he is stating that someone else only sees a woman as a pair of tits?

                        That’s like saying someone is a criminal because they accused someone else of robbing a quick stop.

                        You really ARE a sad hateful little man EP, and you have my pity for it.

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          Jellybeans is the one making hateful comments about people with tits.

                        • Kurt says:

                          Jellybean didn’t make a hateful comment about women, he stated that “that is all she is to him.” To put it another way, he was saying that McCain only sees Palin as a pair of tits. That isn’t a hateful comment about women. It’s not ANY kind of comment about women, it’s a comment about creepy old sexist repug presidential candidates.

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          McCain didn’t make that hateful comment. Jellybeans did.

                        • Kurt says:

                          Jelly didn’t make any comments about any women. She made comments about a man. She accused him of being sexist, which I agree is probably the case. She didn’t say anything negative about Palin.
                          Should say โ€œMcCain/Tits 08โ€ณ because that is all she is to him.
                          That is a comment about an attitude, possibly held by McCain. It is not a slam against women.
                          I can’t think of any simpler way to explain this to you.

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          Liberals are making hateful comments about women, and attacking Palin’s children.

                          See the link under my name.

                        • ema says:

                          thanks! *bookmarked*

                        • Kurt says:

                          The comments about the DS baby either not being hers, or being hers and her putting the child at serious risk are an attack against Palin and nobody else.

          • bittervoter says:

            Hehe, thanks! Nah, I’m not really bitter. My s.n. started as a bit of a joke about all that “zomg! Obama said those people are bitter!” nonsense. Yeah, and I’d be bitter too if I was screwed over as much as the working class has been lately.

          • criskit84 says:

            OMG you took the words right out of my mouth. The reasoning behind it is so laughably obvious, it’s sad! The perfect comparison is this: Jessica Alba is the poor man’s Angelina Jolie, and Palin is the republican’s answer to everything the democrats have going for them. She’s young, looks young at least: Obama is young. She’s a woman: Hilary is a woman (though I still wonder sometimes…). They are trying to reflect the “Dream Team” that never came into being into one person and package it for the republican side to draw the fanatic feminists away from the democrats. And it comes off as just what it is: a shallow in pitiful attempt to beat the already golden democratic team.

            • criskit84 says:

              And as a follow-up, does anyone else find it as disconcerting as I do that the new republican VP seems as shocked at her nomination as the rest of the nation?
              I think I actually heard her say on the news that she had no idea why she had been personally invited to the announcement. The more I think about it, the more the McCain team sickens me.

              • Evil Pundit says:

                No. You’re just imagining things.

                The right-wing blogs have been speculating about Palin for months — and Biden too. None of us was surprised.

                You libs are just ignorant of what’s going on around you. That’s why you’re always taken by surprise.

            • PortlandMark says:

              Okay, we’ll have no dissing of Jessica Alba here (stern voice off)!

            • Charlie Foxtrot says:

              Hey… Hilary’s hot…check out the picture of her in that German boat.

        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

          The deal with the “messiah” business is this; The GOP Christian right annointed President Bush as their final “godly” christian President, gave him a pass on everything and guess what… he screwed it up royaly. He screwed it up so badthat they put their blinders over their ears. So the only way they can redeem themselves is to project their own failings onto their opponents, hence the made of non-factual assault against Obama. That and they built their gameplan against Hilary and Obama screwed them up.

          • Evil Pundit says:

            You screwed up your metaphor, there. Blinders go over eyes, not ears.

            I’m having fun watching Obama’s team screw up everything about his campaign. Compare the 3am text message to Palin’s spectacular media coup. Nobody is even talking about Obama’s speech anymore.

            • Charlie Foxtrot says:

              Ya think? So knowing that blinders go over the eyes, yet saying they go over the ears, what do you think that I meant? I hope it is clear as mud.

              • bittervoter says:

                Ah Charlie, if EP wants to live in a delusional world and think no one cares about Obama’s speech anymore, let him. I’m thinking that maybe he wants a reaction and if we don’t give him that, he’ll go away. Either way, why waste breath trying to use logic with someone who sounds like they worship Ann Coulter? That’s what I’ve decided.

          • eddiepscetti says:

            I will admit that I voted for Bush in 2000. Since the alternative was Gore, I really had no choice. Again in 2004 I voted for Bush, but then I’ve already made my feelings know about Kerry so we don’t need to rehash that one. Let me say this, I have never seen bush as a deliverer of any sort. And in fact, his Daddy did it right when he drove Iraq out of Kuwait. I don’t believe that the current war in Iraq was justified and firmly believe that it was a wasted effort. As for having blinders on, I don’t see myself in that light. I believe in most of what the Republicans stand for but will oppose issues that I find reprehensible. I’m not a zombie that follows blindly.

            • PortlandMark says:

              I disagree with your politics and your choice of candidates, but I respect
              your ability to see that Iraq had nothing to do with our Global War On
              Terror.

              Now, if we had just given Afghanistan the attention it needed instead, I
              might be reluctantly admitting GWB hadn’t been a total disaster.

            • Charlie Foxtrot says:

              My problem is that President Bush has been the worst choice both times. Don’t get me wrong, I have no problem with eliminating Saddam Hussein, as an army major in 1990 (who for the record was not deployed to Saudi/Iraq for DS/DS) I thought that we stopped too soon. But, in 2001 the fight was elsewhere, and he screwed up, not because he was stupid, President Bush is not stupid, but because he listened to the wrong siren’s song… and that is my major issue with this President and with Senator McCain. They have/are allowing their supposed base cloud their judgement. The problem with the base is that tehy are allowing their perception of what their leaders are doing to cloud their judgement.

            • PiMan says:

              Yes, you had a choice. You could have done what about half of your country does every election by not voting.

        • deb says:

          How can he be a great leader? He has no experience!

    • jellybeans says:

      There has been one Messiah that I know of. To keep calling Obama one is to demean the Christian faith…. FYI

      • jellybeans says:

        Before the backlash let me say that I personally am not offended by it but if you are running on a Christian values platform you should heed the churches who are calling for you to stop calling him the Messiah.

        • lowly grunt says:

          Thanks, jelleybeans.
          Christians believe the Messiah has already come; Jews are still anticipating the Messiah. Obama is neither.

          • bittervoter says:

            To be a bit irreverent, and hope I don’t offend anyone, if Obama WERE the Jewish messiah, it would be hilariously ironic given that some conservative Jews in particular had serious concerns about him.
            But in all seriousness, yes, enough messiah talk. The Obamas dont’ encourage it, it doesn’t apply to his supporters, and it’s disrespectful to many people.

          • Jim says:

            Can’t we crucify him just to be on the safe side though??

            • herb says:

              I would only like to underscore this comment (apparently implying murdering a liberal*) when EP goes on his tirades about how the only negative sentiments on this site are from Liberals.


              * I know this isn’t the belief, but I’m mimicking Evil Pundit’s creative interpretation of posts.

              • Kurt says:

                Uh-oh, you said bad things about EP, don’t you know, that’s liberal hatred!!!

                And just to layer it on a little thicker, lets add this random though.
                I wonder if Evil Pundit ever wakes up in the early afternoon, to get ready for his night shift at Waffle House, and looks around his room and thinks to himself. “Holy shit, I really AM a douchenozzle”

              • Phaelin says:

                Each side has their own dicks, sadly. Though, I gotta say, there ARE a lot of those “DIE CONSERVATIVES” comments popping up lately. Just an interesting thought. :o

      • eddiepscetti says:

        Actually, Messiah is Judaic.. Christians already believe the Saviour has come. But to clarify the point, a Messiah is any expected deliverer, the awaited king of the Jews, the promised and expected deliverer of the Jewish people, and Messiah literally means The Anointed One.

      • Evil Pundit says:

        Obama is not really the Messiah. He just thinks he is.

        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

          I thought that was Ronald Reagan.

          • eddiepscetti says:

            Compared to Carter he was..

            • Charlie Foxtrot says:

              Nah, Carter thought too much, while Reagan didn’t think at all.

              • Evil Pundit says:

                Carter — a one-term failure who gave us Robert Mugabe and Ayatollah Khomeini.

                Reagan — an extremely popular two-term President who won the Cold War.

                They said Reagan was too old for the job …

                • PortlandMark says:

                  You guys always say Reagan “Won the cold war”. So, what, actually
                  Communism was a system that worked well? Only our interference
                  prevented it from ushering in a new era of peace and prosperity?
                  Hah! It was a flawed system, doomed to failure from the beginning.
                  Besides, if anybody won the Cold War for us, it was the Mujahedin in
                  Afghanistan. Supported by the US, sure. Still, that just led to the
                  problems we’re having now with Al Quaeda.

                • fjaradvax says:

                  For certain values of ‘won’!

                  • Kurt says:

                    What I find funny about this ‘messiah’ talk about Obama is that it’s mostly (or at least largely) being spewed forth by supporters of a man who claimed that god told him to run for office.

                    • Phaelin says:

                      To have Christian values does mean you’ll sometimes hear those unspoken words. Oh ye of little faith, you make it sound like his religion is a BAD thing.

                      • Kurt says:

                        Umm, phae, I have plenty of faith, just in different gods/goddesses. And I think ANY organised religion is a bad thing. That’s why I’m pagan, we’re about the most disorganised group of religions you’ll EVER see.

                    • Evil Pundit says:

                      It was Pelosi who said Obama was sent by God.

                      • ema says:

                        lol! true!

                      • Kurt says:

                        Perhaps, but Obama never claimed to be sent by god the way Dubya did.

                      • Kurt says:

                        Now, I do not beleive either candidate is ordained by any deity, be it Yawheh, Bast, Freya, Shatki, Rhiannon, Odin, Oberon, or Zeus/Jupiter. But, as food for though, if you did have a deity supporting one party over the other, which party do you think would wind up having a hurricane flung at their national convention?

                • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                  lthough it took them forty years of unheralded, yet consistent policy, the Democratically controlled Congress of the United States to 40 years +/- to defeat the Soviet Union. On the other hand, the Republican controlled Congress took only 12 years to defeat the USA.

                  • Evil Pundit says:

                    Whoa, you’re really on the Kool-Aid tonight!

                    • ema says:

                      really, guess he thinks the usa is defeated, i dont

                      • fjaradvax says:

                        One of the more interesting subtleties of cold war is the extent to which it lacks any clear indicators of victory/defeat. ‘The USA is defeated’ could be true in some senses, less true in others.

                      • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                        Oh really? Why then does this administration support an interrogation method called waterboarding which the US Army outlawed as torture in 1902? Which unalienable rights are you willing to take away from someone… the Declaration does not restrict it comments to countries.

                      • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                        Pls see my post below, I don’t know about you, but my morals are not for sale.

  7. Lallz says:

    Face like a leather couch, but on the plus side, look at how shiny and light reflecting her hair is. Wouldn’t mind having her hair stylist, thats something I can say.

    Oh and I need a moment of joy here to express my explosion of joy at Palin being named as McCains VP =D

    • Seth says:

      Yeah, nominating Palin pretty much undercuts any ‘Obama is inexperienced’ arguments. They just shot themselves in the foot with that. I can’t wait to see how Evil Pundit spins this one, lol.

      • Trainwreck Chaser says:

        Obama is a senator

        She’s a governor

        We’ve elected govenors to presidency before……

        • lowly grunt says:

          Yeah, that worked out so well eight – er four years ago.

          But you must have been referencing Carter and Clinton. ;-)

        • bittervoter says:

          We’ve also elected senators. Such as, I dunno, Abraham Lincoln for one.

          • Evil Pundit says:

            Abraham Lincoln was a Republican who started a war and became extremely unpopular.

            Hmmm.

            • Charlie Foxtrot says:

              Abe didn’t start the war. I believe it happened when S Carolina turned to treason and fired upon American Soldiers performing their duty.

              • Evil Pundit says:

                Oddly enough, George Bush didn’t start the war either. It began with Afghanistan’s Taliban-sponsored al-Qaeda attack on New York in 2001, and with Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990.

                A lot of people said Lincoln was the worst president ever.

                • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                  Sorry, another misinterpretation of facts. President Bush’s (current) decision to invade Iraq had nothing to do with Desert Shield/Storm, nor was it connected to the terrorist attack on september 11th 2001, except in the minds of a few delusional individuals.

                  • Evil Pundit says:

                    Now you’re rewriting history.

                    The 2003 invasion of Iraq was a continuation of the 1991 war which had not ended. It was directly sparked by the new appreciation of threats against the US that followed 9/11.

                    • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                      Not true. Iraq invaded Kuwait based upon the mistaken word of the US Ambassador to Iraq, a Bush appointee. Using the UN resolution, the USA, covering up its diplomatic mistake, led a coalition of forces with the authority to remove the Iraqi Army from Kuwait… NOTHING else. Upon completion of that mission, the UN resolutions allowed for the establichment of several restrictions upon Iraq, which wer in place when we invaded in 2003. The actual situation was as follows. We had Saddam Hussein contained. We could continue to do so with in an economy of force effort as we used our main effort to close with and destroy the stateless terrorist organizations that attacked the USA on September 11th 2001.

                      • bittervoter says:

                        As Charlie served in the military and was an army major, I’m all for taking his opinion seriously. He’s certainly not alone among the military in thinking the Iraq war was a mistake.

                        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                          Thanks. I will also add this. As Commander in Chief, President Bush had the perogative and responsibility to choose when and where he wanted to “throw his spear into the ground,” in other words decide where he wanted to fight his war. He chose Iraq. So be it, the real kick in the ass is he screwed up the actual fight.

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          By that token, McCain’s military service means that McCain is right about Iraq.

                        • Jane St.Clair says:

                          You love to leap to conclusions that serve your purpose, don’t you? All she was saying is that considering Charlie was actually serving in the Army during the time of the first Iraq war (which by your own admission you were between the ages of 5 and 8 years old at the time) it would stand to reason that he would know a little something about it.

                        • Kurt says:

                          I think EP got a “Jump to Conclusions” mat, republican edition. The difference between it and the standard model is, the rep version only has two squares “Praise republicans” and “Make up shit to bash Democrats about”

              • eddiepscetti says:

                North states and South states had a disagreement about rights of the states, and national bias twards southerners for many years. At first, North wanted to stop slavery from spreading. Later, many Northerners wanted slavery to stop everywhere. The South wanted to keep slavery. They passed many laws and compromises, but at the end both sides had a problem. When Lincoln was elected, South decided to separate or secede from the Union. South Carolina was the first to go, and many other “slave” states joined them. They elected Jefferson Davis as president and started the Confederate States of America. At first, President Lincoln thought they would come back. He waited for months but, it never happened.

                The Civil War started in Charleston, South Carolina on April 12, 1861 when the Confederate Army led by General Beauregard attacked Fort Sumter.

                • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                  You can justify treason anyway you would like. The Officers of the Army Confederate States of America betrayed their oaths, in which they swore “so help me God” to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. They and their civilian leaders, who did the same, did not challenge the policies through the court system of the United States of America, they didn’t even give it a chance, they betrayed the USA. Anyone who thinks differently is wrong. Anyone who displays a Confederate Flag disgraces the Constitution of the United States and glorifies Treason. It is interesting that most of these same people call themselves conservatives.

                  • eddiepscetti says:

                    WHOA! I wasn’t justifying treason and concur with you on displaying the Confederate flag. I was only trying to enlighten as to what caused the Civil War.

                    • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                      Sorry, Epic over reaction. mea culpa

                    • herb says:

                      The Cessation of the Southern States wasn’t about slavery; it was about economy. For the most part, the Northern States didn’t give two shits about race. The North was an industry built on textiles, manufacturing, and shipping. The South had an agrarian economy, which required a large workforce.

                      Had the South succeeded, I’m sure they’d be telling kids in schools how insufferable it was to be part of country that allowed Irish ghettos to exist solely as a constant supply of child labor. Oh, did the six-year-old have his arm wrenched off in the loom? Oh, he bled to death? No problem! The Dooley family of his is popping out another!

                      CF is correct in his treatise on treason.

                      (Here’s a shock) EP is over-simplifying history to suit his own agenda. He fails to mention that the Republican Party of Lincoln’s time was a federalist, big-government, pro-immigration political group while the Democrats of those days were States-rights good-ol’-boys.

                      • eddiepscetti says:

                        The Confederates did not attack Ft. Sumter until AFTER they ceded from the Union. Thus, it wasn’t really treason in that regard because the South already saw themselves as a seperate government (from the North’s perspective, yes it would be treason since the Confederates were not recognized as being seperate). You say it wasn’t based on slavery, but in fact it was since the slaves were the biggest part of the South’s economy.

                        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                          Sorry, the act of succession was in fact treason. Why did our founding fathers hold onto the Declaration of Independance for two days? They knew that they were comitting treason, but decided to do so anyway, the difference? GW and the boys won, REL and the boys didn’t.

                        • eddiepscetti says:

                          Hmm.. ok, I see what your saying. On the other hand, the South wasn’t thinking in terms of treason as they felt they were justified by the socio-economic polices being forced on them by the North.

                        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                          True, but they lost, in 1781 we won. The winners get to choose, the losers pick up the board.

                  • Kurt says:

                    Grats Eddie, you have just earned for yourself one (1) cake with the words “EPIC WIN” airbrushed on top in black light sensitive edible colouring.
                    (Incidently, I don’t know if it exists, but if anyone knows about edible black light sensitive colouring, let me know because that would be freakin COOL)

            • The best way to handle insolent bullies on here is to just ignore them.

              I am so tired of them and their mud-slinging…of which they (repugs) seem to have vast reserves of it to sling. I think itโ€™s because they know they’re inherently wrong so they are constantly on the defense, like a cheating spouse. I believe it was Shakespeare who wrote, โ€œThe lady doth protest too much… โ€
              In this case, it’s no lady, but a family barnyard animal that likes mud does comes to mind.

        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

          A governor for two years of a state with less people than Indianapolis. No she’s was picked to say you poor liittle women are really too stupid to think, so here’s a lil womaen all you Hilary supporters can vote for. We’ll just keep her in the Kitchen, barefoot and…

        • PortlandMark says:

          We’ve elected senators to presidency before…

      • truthtalker says:

        The difference is she’s new to politics and has gotten stuff done instead of just being ‘present’. And McCain still has plenty of experience over Obama, who’s VP choice has already failed at the White House twice. Keep trying, Buckaroo!

        • ema says:

          That too!! HEEE HEEE!!!

          • truthtalker says:

            Besides, last I checked Obama was runnign against McCain, not Palin. Though she has more experience than Obama too.

            • truthtalker says:

              That’s “running”, incidentally. Wish there was a way to edit typos on this thing.

              • Kurt says:

                Actually she doesn’t have more experience. Her only experience above city level is 20 months as governor. Other than that she was mayor for a time, and soemthing else before that but I can’t remember what.

                • musicmom870 says:

                  Something else–a journalism major? That ought to qualify anyone to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

                • truthtalker says:

                  Governor is an executive position, 20 months of that is more than the zero months of executive experience Obama has. Further she was in elected positions as mayor for 5 years before Obama started doing anything in the government. So she has more time in the government *and* more applicable experience than Obama. And she’s #2 on the ticket and he’s the #1.

                  • Kurt says:

                    Ok, executive experience, fine, I’ll cede that point. However, how much experience does she have in a position that influences national policies.
                    (I’ll give you a hint. The answer is none.)

                  • markmier says:

                    Click my name for an objective analysis of how much “experience” matters for presidential success.

                • jellybeans says:

                  Mayor of a town of 5,000 … whoop!

        • PortlandMark says:

          Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act.[54] In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act.[55] Obama introduced two initiatives bearing his name: “Lugarโ€“Obama,” which expanded the Nunnโ€“Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons,[56] and the “Coburnโ€“Obama Transparency Act,” which authorized the establishment of http://www.USAspending.gov, a web search engine.[57]

          Obama sponsored legislation requiring nuclear plant owners to notify state and local authorities of radioactive leaks.[58] In December 2006, President Bush signed into law the “Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act,” marking the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor.[59] In January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, which was signed into law in September 2007.[60] He introduced S. 453, a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections.[61] Obama also introduced the Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007. [62]
          ater in 2007, Obama sponsored an amendment to the Defense Authorization Act adding safeguards for personality disorder military discharges.[64] He sponsored the “Iran Sanctions Enabling Act” supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran’s oil and gas industry, and co-sponsored legislation to reduce risks of nuclear terrorism.[65][66] Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children’s Health Insurance Program providing one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.[67]

      • ema says:

        We can give up the “inexperienced” argument, but Obama can’t give up on the “change” argument!! HEE HEE!!! It’s all he has!! :D YAAAY

        • lowly grunt says:

          Which is pretty much what most of American wants, ema.

          • bittervoter says:

            Amen. He also laid out a very clear policy last night that left even fox news commentators speechless. Plus there’s the whole intellect, leadership, transparency, surrounding himself with experienced people thing he has going for him. ;)
            And might I mention, even though it’s not the most important thing, an awesome wife and adorable children.

            • ema says:

              I can even now feel him and that stodgy Biden melting into the background. Can’t wait for the Republican Convention!

              • ema says:

                That’s because the timing of his announcement was perfect!! No one is even talking about the great Obama speech anymore in the media, everyone is rushing to find out more about Sarah Palin, the server for the Governor’s website in Alaska went down this morning! Good job.

              • PortlandMark says:

                Biden has some votes in his past I don’t agree with, but he’s a smart,
                pugnacious SOB who is going to be the Republicans worst nightmare.

            • ema says:

              Wait… transparency what??? Obama?? The one censoring political ads right and left because he doesn’t like them? There is none of any kind of taint on Sarah Palin – excellent all American female!

              • lowly grunt says:

                You used to be a cheerleader, didn’t you?
                I get that “I’m gonna put on mah happy face and yell even though we’re being creamed in the biggest game of our lives” vibe from you.

                • bittervoter says:

                  I agree. I don’t recall any censoring going on with the Obama campaign. Reacting to an ad and saying it’s inaccurate and inappropriate is not censorship. And really, what is up with these attack ads? What is the McCain campaign smoking? My boyfriend postulated, and I agree with him, that McCain can’t think of anything more legitimate to attack him on, so he’s doing these personal attacks.
                  And calling the Obama kids brats, classy!

                  • bittervoter says:

                    As a pre-emptive measure, here is the link for it.
                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/new-mccain-ad-attacks-oba_b_121403.html
                    Honestly, as if anyone things his kids are going to be president. Talk about talking down to voters.

                    • Evil Pundit says:

                      You idiot.

                      That’s an obvious piece of satire.

                      • eddiepscetti says:

                        Although, satire aside (which this obviously was), Jimmy Carter asked his daughter Amy what the most important issue in that election was and she said, “the control of nuclear arms”. And as a side note, be aware that Obama plans to disarm America: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs&feature=related

                        • Charlie Foxtrot says:

                          Eddie. We may disagree, but you a are among the best. Great LOL. Thanks, now lets get back to fighting, hopefully with a respectful and dignified animosity. Who knows, we might actually find some more common ground. regards, tpg, LTC (USA) retired.

                      • bittervoter says:

                        Oh, you’re so nice, EP. On second reading, yes, it’s satirical, but I wouldn’t put it past McCain. I had a hard time believing those rediculous “Paris Hilton” and “messiah” ads were real at first, since they’re so stupid.
                        I feel sorry for you EP, you must be a very miserable person. I shall no longer waste any time giving you the reactions you so sorely desire. Peace!

                        • Evil Pundit says:

                          You’re the fool who fell for a satire, thinking it was real.

                          What else have you been fooled about?

                        • Phaelin says:

                          Seriously, that was a wee bit too obvious. Guess that’s the “look for the negative” aspect some of these people have. And I just love that last little “miserable person” bit. True class from someone who just got schooled.

                        • bittervoter says:

                          Say what you want about me. I decided already I wasn’t going to waste any more time reacting to someone as deluded and hateful as Evil Pundit. I can admit when I am wrong, and while I feel a bit silly, given McCain’s previous bizarre and low brow campaign ads, I wouldn’t put anything past him. The negtaives in McCain campaign aren’t hard to find at all. Looking for the negatives and every little mistake is something both sides are guilty of.

                  • truthtalker says:

                    The censoring is the threat to have the licenses removed from any station that dares play certain ads. Not that he has the power to follow through, but if he became president he could affect the balance of who’s on the FCC, and they could fail to renew a license, even if they couldn’t just yank one.

                  • Evil Pundit says:

                    Obama tries to get the FEC to prosecute the group running the ad that truthfully linked him to Ayers. That’s censorship.

                    Obama instructed his supporters to threaten any TV or radio station that ran the ad or brought up his relationship with the terrorist Ayers. That’s censorship.

                    Obama is fundamentally anti-democratic.

                    • Phaelin says:

                      At least when it comes to saving his own arse, right?

                    • herb says:

                      “Obama instructed his supporters to threaten any TV or radio station that ran the ad or brought up his relationship with the terrorist Ayers.”

                      No, he didn’t. The Ayers connection is thin, and the history you paint for him is false. Those that loudly object (like myself) are doing so because we are tired of this Goebbels-playbook repetition of falsehoods and misrepresentations.

                      But I suppose I charge McCain with censoring those that wish to question his interment at the Hanoi Hilton. He cries whenever someone suggests that it alone doesn’t mean he has executive command experience; dare I wonder his reaction to those curious what he told Charlie to receive such posh treatment…

                      • truthtalker says:

                        In fact he did. Google the words “Obama threatens” and “Ayers ad” and you’ll find quite a long list of articles from both sides of the aisle saying that same thing. They’ll be slightly different on the details, but the basic fact runs through them all.

                        How you can say the connection is “thin” is beyond me. He says they’re friends. He’s worked with him on numerous occasions. I’d say that’s anything but thin. And it doesn’t matter if he was 8 when the guy did it. You don’t befriend people who bomb places and years later are still talking about how they wish they could go blow up some more places. Not exactly “A material” kinda people. I could elaborate more, but honestly if that one doesn’t jump out at you you’ll probably never get it.

                        McCain does not cry about people discussing his time as a POW. He hardly talks about it at all. Those that do are those (like myself) who feel it’s kinda low to question “what he told Charlie to receive such posh treatment” when everything that happened has been documented, and all the folks in the camp with him even vouch for his strength of character. Now as to whether it relates to executive experience, the fact that he was a POW doesn’t neccessarily by itself, but the fact that he was a Captain does, and his command of his troops in the situation does.

                        • Kurt says:

                          Umm, he whips out the P.O.W. card every chance he gets. Did you not see the clip from Leno? Here’s a rough paraphrasing.

                          Jay:(to McCain) For one million dollars, how many houses DO you own?

                          McCain: (Five minute diatribe about how he spent time in a hanoi POW camp and didn’t have a house or a kitchen table or any kind of table at all)

                          Look it up on Youtube, I’m sure it’s there somewhere.

            • Jane St.Clair says:

              That speech was amazing, got me all excited about politics again. I almost didn’t even want to come on to PK today because I was worried the bickering would ruin my Hope High.

              • bittervoter says:

                Ha, me too! And yet, here I am (even though I always say I’m going to stop reading the comments). Still, nothing has crushed my hope high. I just think a relatively small group of people are never going to change, but most of America wants change, and is not extremist to the right or left.

                • Phaelin says:

                  Seriously, where’s my Moderate party? It’s like the best of both sides, you know?

                  • herb says:

                    I want to see a 5-party system (Far-Left, Mod-Left, Centrist, Mod-Right Far-Right) paired with Instant Run-Off Voting (IRV).

                    This way, one would vote for their top 3 candidates. If your #1 didn’t win by a specific percentage, then that vote is discarded and your #2 is tallied… So on, until there is a clear winner. This would do away with the Dark Horse candidates and create a more accurate cross-section of the populous.

                    • truthtalker says:

                      I have to agree the bipartisan system is very flawed. Not sure how we could really make the change though because people already have the idea that a 3rd party vote is half a vote for whoever you *don’t* want. You’d have to dissolve the Republican and Democrat parties and start from scratch to keep people from just voting it right back to two parties again.

              • Kurt says:

                You have Hope!!! My, the sheer audacity. :D

        • Kurt says:

          And Change isn’t an argument, it’s a platform. Big difference.

      • Evil Pundit says:

        Palin mas more executive experience than Obama (and Biden too, for that matter). She also has experience as Commander In Chief (Alaska National Guard).

        She has more experience than Obama where it counts — and she’s only a candidate for Vice President. McCain’s Veep is more qualified than the Democrats’ Prez!

      • Phaelin says:

        You copied that straight from Yahoo, didn’t you? What a good little liberal!

  8. QGFDSD says:

    OMG! Is that HIL?

    Wow.

  9. jellybeans says:

    Anyone else missing the usual bunch of Pugs?
    Looks like they let the wimmins do all the talking today.
    I guess they can’t even fake enthusiasm for ovaries in the office?

    • eddiepscetti says:

      I’m just catching up.. it’s still early morning here.. :) I haven’t even had a chance to read up on McCain’s choice, but you can bet I will! :)

    • bittervoter says:

      Hahaha! Good one Jellybeans. I thought a few times today “wow, EP hasn’t put in his oar yet?!”
      Incidentally, I just heard something great re: Experience.
      When Abraham Lincoln was elected president, his experience was 8 years in the Illinois State Senate and 1 term in the U.S. Senate. He was also a believer in uniting people rather than perpetuating differences and strongly opposed a popular war, that history has seen to be a mistake.
      I’m by no means saying “Obama = Lincoln” or that Lincoln was perfect. But, it makes you think!

      • Evil Pundit says:

        Lincoln was a Republican. He was also a great man, while Obama is an empty suit.

        • herb says:

          The Republican Party in those days was pro-immigrant, pro-federalist, anti-states’-rights…

          But then, knowing that would require that commie-pinko libtard thing called “research”.

          • bittervoter says:

            Ha! Though I wouldn’t expect anything more from EP, someone who thinks blogs are a news source that needs no supplement, Herb.

  10. eddiepscetti says:

    But Lincoln was a Republican, so any similarities stop there.

    • bittervoter says:

      Yeah, but at that point the parties were very different, and the republican party was very different, and much more liberal than it was now, possibly more liberal than the democratic party.

  11. cacapeepee says:

    ugly

  12. SilverFire85 says:

    Holy crap that’s scary!

  13. Kartai says:

    its more than scary…. its… dunno… freakishly (if that’s a word, I’m chilean) accurate…

    X_X bad toughts…

    I’m trying to decide with photo its more accurate, if this one or the one of Benedict XVI

    (Please, I’m not trying to offend anyone… it seem that things are a bit hot here)

  14. John says:

    She looks like she’s a scale map of the Grand Canyon…

  15. Cellie says:

    *pushes skywalker to the front*

  16. ZAp says:

    lol so many star wars jokes


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