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paris like totally supports obama instead of that old icky guy.
OMG like an airhead totally supports another airhead!
Yeah, cause Obama graduated in the bottom five of his class.
Oh, no, wait. That was your boy. McCain.
I know that’s not a problem, judging from Dubya, y’all must like ‘em dumb.
That is why I love reading your posts, Frigid.
But when there’s only five in your class…
Before the advert at least, the Hiltons were pouring money into McCain’s campaign.
His commercial spreads the cheeks of the two biggest supporters of the Repubs: the obscenely-rich heir/esses and the bayou trailer trash. Why to bite the hand!
Akchulee Paris is running herself … see you at the debates bitches!!!
Actually Paris is running herself – See you at the debates b****es!
(reposted … you may see 2 … one with lolspeak and swears … so ashamed)
I would LOVE to see Paris at the debates. That would make them soooooo much more fun to watch.
Wow, she might actually be ditzier than Palin… THAT WOULD BE FUNNY!
weak….
Yes, srsly
Ya, rly
Ummmmmm, is it wrong that I can see some sense in Paris Hilton’s energy plan?
No, though I consider it funny that teh Talking Heads™ (not the band… “and the days go by”) seem to think it’s a better plan than either candidates, when from what I’ve heard, it sounds pretty damn similar to Obama’s…. But hey, gotta keep the horserace going and the viewers tuning in…
Actually, she spouted McCain’s plan without knowing it. (Of course, it would be interesting to find out if Obama later amended his to make it more like the “Paris” plan … after all, he made his big speech after her ad….
hmmmmmmm………
Actually she took key points from both plans and merged them … which is actually the smart thing to do.
not really, though …. McCain has had both a short term plan (drill), a medium term plan (effiency standards, build nuke plants, other proven technologies) and long term (invest in research of renewable technologies).
Obama tends to be all long-term and non-specific, unless he’s revamped his plan in the last week or two.
Way to reverse the truth.
Pre-Hilton, McTaint’s plan was Drill Here/Drill Now with a bonus prize for the person to invent an electric car battery that gets 100 miles/charge (ignorant of the fact that in this country there are already two such batteries in small production.
(That’s what I don’t get about dittoheads: how can McCain be for wind and solar energy when he consistantly votes against them?… Oh, yeah: the same way he’s “for the troops”)
Stupid smiley. Way to un-subtle my comment. Jerk.
You are wrong. McCain’s plan has always been to have everything on the table, drill, nuclear energy, clean cole, battery, hydrogen, wind, etc. Paris did support McCain’s plan.
Provide me a link to a Pre-Hilton news article where McCain outlines using strictly-supervised offshore drilling as a bridge to solar/wind, as Paris has outlined.
And by the way, it’s spelled “coal”.
WTF? You seriously never heard that before? You need to get in the habit of doing some reading on your own. Among other things, look up McCain’s energy speech back in April 2007.
Link : https://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/Speeches/13bc1d97-4ca5-49dd-9805-1297872571ed.htm
Nuclear energy is a disaster waiting to happen, I hope to hell we stay far far away from it.
Based on … what?
Please don’t say Chernobyl, unless you can tell me where there is a similarly-constructed plant in the US.
Based on rapidly increasing cost of uranium (80% imported) and the
potential for geothermal, wind and solar, nuclear is old hat
STILL cheaper and more efficient, not to mention cleaner, safer and LESS radioactive than even a modern coal plant, with existing quantities of fuel which will last for centuries rather than decades (oh, and the BYPRODUCTS of current nuke plants are materials potentially valuable to future generations as an additional power source, too!)…
THIS is “old hat”?
Man, tough crowd!
That, or you just get all your nuclear-power “knowledge” from watching ‘The Simpsons’.
COUGH! *Three mile island* COUGH!
You simply haven’t been paying attention…. McCain’s had lots of specifics for months (see post above). Obama’s near-term plan is … what… filling your tires with air? Nice idea, but that’s the stuff of a Public Service Announcement, not an energy policy.
Is it wrong that I have this overwhelming urge to point out that the Talking Heads song is called “Once in a Lifetime” ?
man were all fuked no matter what
Paris Hilton has more substance.
Her energy plan is more comprehensive than McCain’t.
She’s more intelligent than Obamoron.
Obvious troll is obvious.
because it’s so obvious that she’s more intelligent than Obama
Which is why she took out student loans to attend Harvard and taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago for 12 years?
No, she is smarter because she did not do all of that and STILL has a better idea (which happens to be McCain’s idea) for a comprehensive engergy program. That is why she is smarter. And, seriously, if you have read both plans, actually read them, and honestly believe that Oballama’s is more comprehensive, then we know you did not go to Harvard. Oballama weasels around the nuclear issue like a snake in jelly. Now, if you believe it because you are just a dumbass, then you get a pass.
she had a better idea? you think she actually came up with this plan?
silly silly steve.
like everything, paris is told what to say.
yet, i’d still vote for her.
“like everything, paris is told what to say.”? –So is Obama.
Like McCain can even keep his stories straight.
But just remember, folks, as his campaign advisor said, John McCain does not always speak for the McCain Camp.
I’m not all that happy with McCain lately, but Obama is a radical socialist that will destroy our fragile economy with more taxes and social programs that never seem to really help anyone. So, I have to vote for McCain and hope he choses well a VP.
Obama is not a radical socialist by a longshot: he’s a centrist Democrat. If you want a real Leftist, look up the plans Dennis Kucinich wanted.
I notice you fear the threat of increased taxes, which must mean you’re in the upper 1% of income, as that’s the bracket he wants to tax (while somehow not returning it to the Republican standard under Eisenhower, a whopping 91% of income).
We’re not going to agree on social programs, so I won’t argue that point.
School means nothing. It teaches you how to find canned bits of information, injest, retain, then regurgitate it at will. Not that this is not valuable, it just isn’t enough. Real problem solving takes practise, will, experience, and conviction above all. You could go to Harvard and be no better than the guy who went to Hooters. Inteligence is the same way. The man with the highest recorded IQ is just a bouncer in Alaska, while there are Nobel Prize winners with IQs only in the 130s (higher end of average). The only determining factor in eminence is the “rage to conquer;” that will to actually use the God given talent or opportunity that has been afforded. If Hilton got her plan from a culmination of informed sources (even if those sources are presidential candidates), and produced a legitimate plan for energy then it doesn’t matter where she went to school. She deserves credit for thinking at all, and not blindly following one idea or the other exclusively. For the record, I’m not 100% on board with her, but kudos for stepping out.
Obama gives better BJ’s though, from what I’ve seen on this site.
Well, I have to concede that.
Nah, your mom’s are way better.
Daft didn’t say the *best*, just better than Paris’.
Whee! Baseless assertions are fun!
Yes they are! Where are some?
Look for any comment posted by “ema” or “Evil Pundit”
Herb the dumbass strikes again. You should look Seth up, you two could totally be brothers or lovers. You pick.
We’d be drinking buddies, if we lived in the same city.
You desire for us to be homosexual lovers is far too telling of your counterphobic tendencies. .)
Darn, another internet love connection foiled.
Wow, lumping my posts together with EP’s? I really don’t deserve that! Thanks!
You’re right. That was a bit harsh. My apologies.
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McCain’s is most comprehensive (and the bulk of it long-standing; see his speech from April of LAST YEAR). The one that Paris Hilton was given is a subset of McCain’s plan. Obama’s plan is a subset of Paris Hilton’s plan.
*OBAMA*, srsly?
Policies and platforms aside… McCain’s horrible at campaigning.
Negative campaigning this early on shows just how badly his campaign is going (That and right-wing terrorists in a panic, shooting up churches, assassinating Democrats, creating arms caches and making death threats to Obama)
All the islamo-nazi terrorists are being real real quiet so everyone will vote for Obama. They like him.
Seriously? You’re going with ‘Terrorists like Obama?’ THAT is your plan of attack? That is SO original, did you come up with that yourself? Islamo-nazi, nice touch, it makes them sound scary, yet at the same time, you can always claim its a joke.
He is the candidate endorsed by Hamas and I didn’t come up with islamo-nazi, but it fits – islamic extremists want all the jews dead. That is very nazi like, no? Anyway there are more of them than any “right wing terrorist in a panic” and they are way more organized.
Heck, Obama was caught taking ****foreign contributions**** from Gaza and is in the process of (finally) giving them back …. or at least claiming to do so…
And don’t forget that Obama is friends with the unrepentant domestic terrorist, Bill Ayers.
Bill Ayers?! *sigh*
At least Obama never denounced America.
but give him a chance, I’m sure that’s coming.
Then McCain would bitch about he did so *40 Years prior*.
It is logically true. Try telling anyone that Terrorists, after have been chased all over the globe by a Republican administration for eight years, are not rooting for a Democraft president, with the hope that things will be different? The Viet Minh did the same thing. They were of the opinion, correctly so, that eventually America would give up and a leader sympathetic to the feeling would be elected. They thought that all they had to do was wait it out, take their pot shots, and they would eventually have their way. It worked then, and, logically, the terrorists think Obama being elected would be a step in that direction. I really do not know what Obama would do, but I do know that he would at least feel as though he had to continue to show muscle so as to avoid being labeled weak in his early time in office.
Well, we do know Obama’s security advisor thinks it would be a good idea to follow the sage wisdom of Whiney the Pooh when dealing with our enemies. Makes me feel safe.
“You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can never bomb it to peace.”
As McCain wants to go to war with Iran, and insists on pissing off Russia, while still “winning” in Iraq, plus whatever the hell is going on with Afghanistan, my question is: where is he going to get the manpower and the money from?
Giving the reaping of the Iraq cash-cow by private contractors ($.80 to the dollar), I’m sure his paramilitary lobbyists are encouraging his support of war, but I can’t see how he can pull off his plan.
(Just don’t call him a warmonger.)
It’s been pretty quiet lately as far as terrorist attacks in this country go. I hear what you are saying though about the military being stretched thin. But just saying ok, that’s it, no more war for us is not going to change things in the rest of the world, or the sentiments of those who want us to submit to them. They will see it as weak, it is what they expect us to do. They will continue with attacks on all fronts, economic, legalistic, etc.
It has /always/ been pretty quiet on the American front.
Terrorists tried to bomb the WTC in ‘93, but thanks to [the heroic actions of Bill Clinton not carpet bombing the Middle East]*, the [Islamo-conservatives]* stayed in the shadows until a Republican entered office.
* No, these are not my genuine opinions; these are facetious examples i am putting forth for the purpose of discussion.
I don’t believe I’ve ever heard Obama say that he’d just throw up his hands and hide under a tea cozy; he’s for a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, but only to focus on Afghanistan and lean a little pressure on Pakistan (you know, the country that’s harboring bin Ladin) to be a bit more transparent. /After/ Barack states this position, Bush (and subsequently McCain) begin talks of setting up something that is a timetable in everything but name.
Yes, Obama is willing to have diplomacy with Iran, if only in the attempt at averting war. War should never be the first option.
And please, as someone who believes in the teachings of Jesus, please stop with the assaults on Islam. Most Muslims are not rabid anti-American ultra-conservative radicals; they are followers of the same God as the other two Abrahamic religions and deserve a modicum of respect for that. Lumping them into the same group of sociopathic nutjobs is disgraceful to all sides. Terms like “Islamofascist” other and dehumanize people of the Muslim faith; ; who you want to suffer under the banner of “child-raping warmongering Christijihadists”? Because, you know, all Christians fuck alterboys and want to kill everyone brown.
I use the term islamo-fascist to separate the crazies from the moderates which are generally good people, as good as any average Christian or Jew. It is not meant to lump them ALL into the same category.
Oh, and the problem with the Catholics and altar boys is a sad human condition called pedophilia… All people of all religions suffer from it.
as a group of course, not all individuals…
I’m afraid your correction sounded worse than if you had just left it. I’m sure we all know what you mean.;)
Oh, I don’t know, you never know who is reading this stuff… Just wanting to be sure. Of course Jesus would simply have called it sin from which we do all suffer individually, so my first post could stand without correction in that case.
I would like to express my sincere appreciation for this well thought, well expressed argument. Though I have disagreed with almost every post I have ever seen you write, and I have a very different vision of a future with Obama in the oval office, this is the best apologetic* case I have read on this site. Well done!
*(the original Greek translation: apologtikos -suitable for defense; a defensive argument)
herb is one of the best posters here and I’m not sure how someone like myself ended up one on one with him!
I should probably be yelling “First!” somewhere. But my point is, how many peace talks have we had now in the middle east? How many more are we going to have while people are continually blowing each other up in the meantime? They don’t seem to be doing any good at all. And now they are bringing it to our country. Maybe Obama could do better? I’m not sure why though. I am not happy about war at all, but even the bible says there is a time for war and a time for peace.
Aww… many thanks for the kind words- er… which of us is the crotchwaffle and which one is the douchenozzle? I still haven’t figured that one out.
And I love Ecclesiastes. (You reference Chapter 3: “To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under Heaven…”)
Crotchwaffles lean to the right, douchenozzles to the left. Politics PK style my friend.
and wankstains piss off everybody!
I think some club soda might get those out though.
Well either way, McCain or Obama, the absolute bonanza that terrorists have enjoyed under Bush is at at end – neither candidate is going to benifit Al-Quaeda as much as Bush has done over the past eight years, so we should be thankful for that at least. Sadly, they’ll be reaping the rewards for some time yet.
You’re silly.
Al-qaeda has been almost wiped out.
How do you wipe out an ideology? Seriously, the more we randomly shell villaes the more we inspire people to take up arms against us. That’s why we were never ‘greeted with open arms’ upon entering Baghdad.
al-Qaeda isn’t an army; there is no leader. It’s like a sea sponge: we can tear it asunder and it will only reform that many more times. al-Qaeda needs to be contained, disarmed, and defused. “Contained” in this sense is not locking them up and humiliating them in places like Abu Gharib and Gitmo; it is grouping them into an area where we can attempt to discuss things like civil beings.
We could also replace their Koran’s with copies of Whiney the Pooh! There are people you cannot talk to, they have been trained since childhood in the madrassa schools that Americans and the west are evil. Things you learn as a child tend to stay with you as truth all your life especially if you are in the company of friends and family that believe the same thing. And, their hatred has nothing to do with anything we have done to them in our own defense. They would despise us even more if we did nothing to defend ourselves.
I have no counterpoint to this. You are absolutely correct, and it saddens me.
(Your last few lines remind me of the lyric “They hate when you’re clever/ and despise a fool”)
Um…. al-Qaeda is an organization, not an ideology.
Not that al-Qaeda’s ideology isn’t beginning to melt down, too, though.
You might want to read up on how some of the theorists that bin Laden based his ideas upon have begun to turn their back on him, his tactics and his ideas of Islam.
Al-Quaeda is not an organized army, anyone anywhere in the world can be “Al-Quaeda”. All you need is a chip on your shoulder, a bath and a fertiliser. Leave a video saying you did it for “Al-Quaeda” and someone claiming to speak for them will be more than happy to claim responsibility, even if you’ve never spoken to anyone else who’s declared themselves a member. This ios not something you can wipe out just by killing or capturing all their ‘troops’
al-Qaeda is an organization. Saying “anone here can be al-Qaeda ” is like saying “anyone here can be Mafia”.
Sheesh.
What absolute rubbish, do you really believe that?
More like “anyone here can be an East Coast Gangsta”. The Mafia has a very specific hierarchy that is lacking in al-Qaeda, which is why the latter is such a dangerous organization.
I guess the best analogy would be that al-Qaeda is a like a Greek Fraternity; in theory There is a central structure, but for the most part it’s forming a charter and a chapter. We may take out one δΦµ house, but nothing prevents another from springing up to take its place.
I really have to agree, sadly… and not entirely because of negative campaigning either because there is a place for that in a campaign.
Who is worse, McCain or Hillary?
Obama is worse than Hillary is worse than McCain
Morgan Freeman for President ?
No way that would never work. He played a Muslim in Robin Hood.
Then there is the whole cheating on his wife and getting in bad car wreck with his girl friend – not to discreet! A president would have to try harder than that to cover up an affair.
I know, I was so upset because I love Morgan Freeman as an actor.
I do too! He is a great actor.
True- Ted Kennedy never recovered politically from his car wreck.
If he’d been driving a Volkswagen Beetle, we never would have had to put up with Nixon.
A Kennedy! In a Volkswagon! NEVAH!!!!!!!!!
Umm… McCain DID cheat on his first wife, and you don’t hear anyone talking too much about that!
Check it out: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
What’s worse is that he still has the gall to run on a campaign of morality and christian values–or is that the whole point of the “cover up”?
So what? Obama’s played a muslim too.
That was kind of my point… I was attempting sarcasm to illustrate how people accuse Obama of being a Muslim just because he went to a Muslim school by saying people would accuse Morgan Freeman of being a Muslim because he played one and…. yeah, guess I wasn’t clear enough.
That’s a work of art right there.
Nicely done.