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Being gay does not hinder anybody in anyway as far as being a lover or a parent. I don’t say this because I am gay but because I have met lesbian parents and gay parents who love their children, adopted or otherwise with the same devotion as I show my own sons.

I will admit that I have an internal ick reaction when I see men kissing or being intimate. Though in all honesty, I can’t say that I like watching every hetero couple or even every lesbian couple. Ugly knows not just one sexuality. That said, as a country, I see no point in saying that persons A and B can be married but C and D cannot when all are adults. My ick reaction is no reason to stop two people from being happy with each other and having the same rights as I have with my fiancee’.

As for the God argument, I am sorry. God called and wanted to remind ya’ll of the fact that he said Love thy Neighbor and Judge Not lest ye be Judged which I believe both boil down to being respectful of each other and minding your own business in life.

It is very simple. Government exists as a ruling body to keep us all in check and do its best to give equal protection under the law. That means that every citizen should have the right to marry any other citizen of legal sexual age. As for people thinking that homosexual marriage is a gateway, stop being stupid. Homosexuals just want the same stupid rights that Christians flaunt every day while getting divorces and having adultery with a small chance of actual happiness since most marriages flop anyway. Stop whining, I am sick of tax money being spent arguing this.

We have real problems. Who Bob has sex with isn’t one of them. If Tom and Bob want to have sex, why care? No, the black book you obviously haven’t read enough doesn’t count as a reason in a court of law.

I figure this, as long as Bob and Tom don’t bring over sex tapes to my house, I won’t do the same and I shall do my best to fight the urge to ask Jane and Jill for sex tapes. There, we can all get along and grow up. You can’t catch “the gay” and it won’t spread. Who you are attracted to is in your head and body already. You don’t vacation in gay, you either are or you aren’t, just like being hetero or bi.

Can we please move on and take care of real problems now?

Are you to say that the people in the 60’s who chose to recognize their love for each other despite their differing skin tones were asking for special rights as well? No. They were asking for the government to allow them the same freedom that is guaranteed to every other American out there. Rights that as defined by the Constitution should not restricted to them.

To say that people of the same gender who choose to want to marry are asking for special rights is absurd. There is really no sound reason to disallow them this right, other than personal religious-based bigotry. How exactly are two men or two women who want to marry hurting you or the country in any way? Any religious-based answers are not admissible–though poorly enforced, our country is supposed to have a distinct separation between Church and State.

I could really care less about Polygamy. If people are of consenting age and aren’t hurting anyone, then I feel they should do whatever makes them happy. Pedophilia does not involve consent, so to allude that that’s the next step in the slippery slope of what happens next if gays are allowed to marry is a weak argument. As for drug use, I’m sure that you’ll find that from more enlightened nations, that by not criminalizing or demonizing such things as drugs or alcohol, people will not be as tempted by the forbidden and won’t abuse them as such as we are apt to do here in Good Ol’ America. Sure, the possibility for addiction is always there (as stated above in my refute of your alcoholism point), but that’s unavoidable and shouldn’t be something to try and prevent.

Penultimately, how does your “refute” of my point about denying bodily functions have anything to do with AIDS? Yes, there may be a slightly higher presence of AIDS/HIV amongst the homosexual population than in the heterosexual, that doesn’t mean that by allowing gay people to marry EACH OTHER will cause some sort of global pandemic (even though there already is one–in spite of the fact that guess what? homosexuality is still criminalized in less civil parts of the world). If you’re so afraid of public health and the spread of HIV, then don’t have sex with a gay person. It’s pretty simple. And you may not know this, but it’s a fact that’s become a publicly-accepted standard since at least the early 90’s, but AIDS is no longer a “gay disease.” It’s now fastly becoming integrated into the “heterosexual” world as well. Like it or not, it’s true.

And finally, the bit about tigers eating their young is confusing at best. According to my research, male tigers will eat a female’s cubs to make her receptive to him and so she can bear his cubs. Which is to say, no more common than homosexuality. But get this, not all animals do as tigers do, yet multiple species of animals have been reported to have instances of homosexuality.

We coddle and shelter our children before sending them off into the world longer than any other living creature, but does that make it right? No. Yes, children do need more time to be released into the world to be able to function in a civilized world than an animal does into the wild, but its becoming increasingly common to keep children at home long past 18, seriously impairing their ability to live independently and successfully on their own.

We are not animal, Steve. I think you and I both know that’s clear. But my point is that we are not above inborn natural urges. We might deny them all we want, but they’re still there, trust me.

As to rights, I’m sorry, but you are asking for a special right, not an equal right. It goes beyond the ‘marriage’ issue. You want society not just to accept your behaviour, but to condone and encourage it. At that point, why not encourage pedophilia, or polygamy, or drug abuse? It’s a social order question.

Unlike the body’s biological needs, there’s really no adverse effects to denying that impulse.

Hmmm, let’s talk AIDS, shall we? What’s the percentage in the homosexual population vs the heterosexual population? That’s a public health question.

However, in defense of Luna-A’s comment, she was stating that homosexuality, by virtue of being present in animals shows that it is not a human construct. Just like the need to sleep, eat and breathe, homosexuality is an inborn trait that we as humans have the ability to acknowledge and act upon, or deny. Unlike the body’s biological needs, there’s really no adverse effects to denying that impulse.

As to its correlation to the animal kingdom, it shows that if it occurs there, then it’s completely natural. Where animals are different than you and I, Steve, is that they don’t feel societal pressure to inhibit such natural urges and especially are not pressured by an archaic scripture to do so.

To be granted “special rights”, as you and your fellow narrow-minded bobble-heads seem to like calling them, is for homosexual people to say, “I’ve decided to act upon my urges that I’ve known to have been born with and marry someone of my own sex/gender.” This also makes the statement that they have agreed to spend their lives together and would love to have the same basic rights that are undeniably granted to heterosexual unions.

It’s not a matter of being treated better than any other group, it’s a matter of wanted to be treated equally.

Gays are no more damaging to your precious Democratic party (which is my party as well) than an interracial couple.

And those quality of “gays” and “lesbians” are what you measure your opinions of them on, then one must really have to call into question the “straight” sort of people you keep as company.

Once you cling to the adult notion that Marriage = Love and that Love is a gift between two people, then you should continue adding to this admittedly adult discussion board. Until then, I suggest a trip to a vet for a rabies shot.

I think your feeble mask of “I’m okay with Gays, really” as an excuse to be all against them for wanting the same basic rights as heterosexual adults is starting to falter there.

Worry about your own damn self and quit trying to fire back, it’s tiresome.

No, but it is a naturally occuring thing and it’s not a choice someone makes.

Not so, Luna. Are you ruled by your gonads? That’s we separates us from the animals. Homosexuality is not something you’re born with. At best it’s an inclination or a tendency, as to alcoholism. You can choose not to act on your tendencies. So, yes, it is a choice. Why should someone receive special rights because of who they choose to have sex with?

That is just a correction I would like to make.

Also, it is impossible for one to be completely open minded. It is just simply inhuman, as humans we all have something we strongly dislike. We all have to simply learn to deal with it and get on with OUR OWN lives.

Thank you.