That being said, there are numerous current situations in China that China still needs to address, however after living in China for a while, the West really seems to blow most of these out of proportion at least bigger then most Chines think. Tibet in particular, the Chinese do not think that Tibet could be separated from China any more then Hawaii could be separated from the US. They have invested a lot of money into the infrastructure and have many Han Chinese living there (much the same as Hawaii or Alaska).

I mean, I utterly despise the Chinese government, too, but I can’t stand reactionaries like you who go YOURE EVIL YOURE RACIST AND YOU EAT BABIES ARGLEBLARGLEBLARG when anyone says something that doesn’t match their opinions.

As to your stuff about the Normans etc. Where was I saying anything about Tibet being a butterflies and happy hugs? I didn’t. I was just pointing out that America doesn’t have the moral capital to complain about other countries imperial agendas or how they treat people when they invade.

Finally about stupidity in arguments. I won’t argue with you there cause stupidity is obviously something you are much more well experienced with on a personal level.

Admittedly, I feel ‘closer’ to WWII due to my mum’s village having been burnt down when she was a little girl as a revenge after Nazi-officers had been killed by Dutch resistance. Over 300 men were taken from the village and taken to the camps, very few returned.

My mum has seen things no little girl should ever see. She still has nightmares sometimes.

Do the Chinese allow the Tibetans to form “reservations” close to their urban centers and build gambling casinos to make millions of dollars? Lotsa Tibetans getting rich with the recent prosperity?

But I do agree the picture is very far-fetched. For one thing, the swastika is an old Tibetan symbol, and so far it hasn’t seemed too likely the Chinese will permit many symbols from Tibet to be displayed.

The Dalai Lama himself has asked for this to stop.